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Steelers vs Brown - TNF Showdown Shippers | NFL Week 4 | DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems go.
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  Speaker 2: Clear for liftoff.
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  Speaker 3: What's up, everyone? Tyler Tamburlian here, a.k.a. Toe Tagging Tambo,
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  Speaker 3: back for another edition of Showdown Shippers here on the
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  Speaker 3: Shipping Nation YouTube station. Got title, got hoop here with
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  Speaker 3: me as always. Going to break down all things for
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  Speaker 3: this Thursday night football game. We've got AFC North Battle,
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  Speaker 3: the Steelers at the Browns. We're going to talk about
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  Speaker 3: everything from the captains, the ownership. We'll go all throughout
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  Speaker 3: position by position, save a little fan duel for the end,
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  Speaker 3: answer all of your questions that we can from the chat.
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  Speaker 4: But hoop, Bring you in first, man, back starting another week.
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  Speaker 3: Week four is here. Thursday night football, Steelers at the Browns.
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  Speaker 3: Lower total, but could be a good game. Rodgers versus Watson.
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  Speaker 3: We'll let Title get to the Rodgers stuff in a
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  Speaker 3: minute here. What's up, Hoop? How you doing?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, already week four, chugging right along. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: not the most exciting game, that's for sure. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: two offenses that leave a lot to be desired. So
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  Speaker 1: for DFS purposes, it's probably going to be a little
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  Speaker 1: bit tricky, but That's why I love doing these shows,
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  Speaker 1: you know, before I build any teams, kind of, you know,
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  Speaker 1: talk through with you guys and see what we can find,
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  Speaker 1: see if there's anything we're missing, any, you know, little
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  Speaker 1: edges potentially out there. But this is a difficult one.
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  Speaker 1: Slates like this, I mean, I'd say definitely the most
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  Speaker 1: difficult part is kind of identifying what you want to
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  Speaker 1: do at captain because we don't have the standout guys.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have Bijon on the slate. We don't have JSN.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have Jameer Gibbs or Amon Ross St. Brown. Like,
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  Speaker 1: we don't have guys like that. on the slate, we'd
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  Speaker 1: have nothing really even close to that. And the guys
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  Speaker 1: that you thought could be those guys like DK Metcalf and, and,
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe Michael Pittman, they just haven't been those
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  Speaker 1: guys at all this year. So it does make it
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  Speaker 1: difficult in terms of finding what you want to do
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  Speaker 1: at captain and a slate like this. I think that's
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  Speaker 1: probably the most important part. I haven't really looked super
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  Speaker 1: deep at ownership, but I guess it probably gets, it's
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  Speaker 1: probably pretty spread out. So Jalen Warren looks like the
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  Speaker 1: guy that everyone wants to go to. Then after that,
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  Speaker 1: it gets spread out quite a bit. And Jalen Warren's
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  Speaker 1: the guy because our our guy Rico Dowdle is is
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  Speaker 1: out tonight. And, you know, Jalen Warren got a ton
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  Speaker 1: of work last week and probably get a ton of
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  Speaker 1: work here tonight. So, yeah, it's an ugly game, but
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  Speaker 1: prize pools are big across industry. And, you know, we'll
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  Speaker 1: work hard to see what what we can come up
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  Speaker 1: with here on the show.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. You know, tight.
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  Speaker 2: I'll bring you in.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously, if you want to talk about your usual here,
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  Speaker 3: you can. Like, obviously, Warren is going to be big
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  Speaker 3: up in the captain, but it's a way that you
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  Speaker 3: can get overweight on the other guy. I mentioned off
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  Speaker 3: the top, though, your boy Rogers coming here out on
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  Speaker 3: the road.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: He doesn't look very good this season so far, though.
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  Speaker 3: But it is like Hoops said, chugging right along. I
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  Speaker 3: know it's only week four. No negativity here ever. But
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  Speaker 3: it's like feels like it's going too quick already to
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  Speaker 3: your original point. We start the season like it just
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  Speaker 3: goes fast. So fast. Look, we got a lot of
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  Speaker 3: time left.
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  Speaker 4: I'm excited about it, but it is kind of setting
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  Speaker 4: in that it's already week four.
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  Speaker 3: How you doing, my friend? And yeah, any any early
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  Speaker 3: thoughts from you going into this one?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I haven't said it once this year, though.
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  Speaker 2: You I have in the past and you know that
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  Speaker 2: you said it week one this year. I'm having good optimism.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not thinking about it, even though when I did
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  Speaker 2: see October, when I woke up today, I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: next thing you know, football will be done. But hey,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we saw Case Keenum. is the captain optimal
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  Speaker 2: on Monday. So anything can happen for sure. Maybe it's Rodgers,
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  Speaker 2: the old quarterbacks. Maybe it's their time. But yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's pretty hard to get too, too excited for the game.
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  Speaker 2: But if you're playing showdown like we are with so
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  Speaker 2: much money up top, it's always exciting. And I actually
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  Speaker 2: think these slates are pretty good because when you get
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  Speaker 2: randomness and low scoring games, anything goes. One play changes
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  Speaker 2: everything like usual. But like Higby, when he scored 16
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  Speaker 2: and then you didn't necessarily need him because of Mumfield,
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  Speaker 2: If someone down there scoring 16 today, you definitely will
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  Speaker 2: need them. So I think we should embrace a lot
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  Speaker 2: of chaos. And yeah, we don't have any Bijan and
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  Speaker 2: all of that. But to be honest, I'm thinking Jalen
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  Speaker 2: Warren is Bijan Gibbs and all of that with his
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  Speaker 2: role and the slate that we're looking at today. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: don't worry.
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  Speaker 3: We'll find everything you need to know about Blake Whitehead
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  Speaker 3: later on or Whiteheart, I should say. When we get
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  Speaker 3: there later on, we'll have his Instagram up. Can't even
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  Speaker 3: get his name right out of the gate. So hoop,
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  Speaker 3: I'll kick it to you as usual for the grand
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  Speaker 3: scheme overview. We do have, you know, like we talked
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  Speaker 3: about off the top, high ownership at the captain on Warren.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to get to captain soon. you mentioned it
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  Speaker 3: with like the Metcalf the Pittman stuff I think I
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  Speaker 3: think Roman Wilson got benched last week or something happened
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  Speaker 3: like he you know he ended up not getting as
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  Speaker 3: much playing time or whatever is what people thought you
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  Speaker 3: got Concepcion Boston Bannon on the other side Judkins is
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  Speaker 3: on this slate hoop but give us your grand scheme
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  Speaker 3: overview and we'll get into it.
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  Speaker 1: From there crazier comparison before we get into all that
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  Speaker 1: Michael Wilson to Randy Moss or Jalen Warren to Bijan
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  Speaker 1: and Gibbs Have you been watching Michael Wilson this year?
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  Speaker 3: The crazier one is Jalen Warren. I'll tell you right now,
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  Speaker 3: it's easy because Michael Wilson keeps coming through. I had
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  Speaker 3: him on the big lineup last week, too. I got
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  Speaker 3: a couple things wrong. Jalen Warren was the piece I
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  Speaker 3: needed to go with it the rest of that lineup,
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  Speaker 3: but had the Purdy, Kittle, Wilson run back, and that
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  Speaker 3: was a nice lineup.
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  Speaker 2: You must not be watching Michael Wilson.
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  Speaker 1: No, he was on my main fan duel team last week.
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  Speaker 2: Too good.
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  Speaker 1: I was watching Michael. He's always open. it is it's
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  Speaker 1: volume based from beside i mean maybe maybe you weren't
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  Speaker 1: too far off on that comparison we'll see when it's
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  Speaker 1: all said and done but.
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  Speaker 3: He looks good or something man he really had some.
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  Speaker 1: Always open yeah he does look good but yeah randy
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  Speaker 1: moss might be a little we'll see though it's still
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  Speaker 1: early on in his career still early on his career
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  Speaker 1: what was the question tambo uh we want to talk.
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  Speaker 3: About your grand scheme overview for the slate yes yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean kind of what i touched on in the
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  Speaker 1: the opening where it's like man like These slates are difficult.
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  Speaker 1: They are.
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  Speaker 2: It is ugly.
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  Speaker 1: It's a low total. I mean, 38 and a half total.
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Warren is the one guy up top that is
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  Speaker 1: looking to get some ownership. And like I said, I
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  Speaker 1: think the most important part is kind of figuring out
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  Speaker 1: what you want to do at captain. You're going to
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  Speaker 1: have to click some guys you probably don't want to
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  Speaker 1: click in the captain spot because it does get ugly
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  Speaker 1: after guys like Jalen Warren. You got Deshaun, two quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: that have I don't want to say underperformed. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's really no expectations for Watson, but I would say
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  Speaker 1: Rogers has definitely underperformed, although he did look better in
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  Speaker 1: the last game. I mean, some big plays to Roman Wilson,
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  Speaker 1: who you kind of touched on, but this is a
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  Speaker 1: slate for sure. You're going to build your teams and
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be, it's going to look ugly. It's
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  Speaker 1: not going to be comfortable, but you have to embrace it.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone's kind of dealing with the same thing. So again,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when we get to the captain portion, Of
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  Speaker 1: this show, like to me, that's the most important conversation,
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  Speaker 1: like what you want to.
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  Speaker 2: Do at captain.
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  Speaker 1: You have Bijan and Gibbs up top in Jalen Warren.
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  Speaker 1: And then after that, it's like, OK, who's the next
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  Speaker 1: guy we're going to? And it's tough. So to me,
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  Speaker 1: it's definitely what you do at the captain position. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we'll kind of we'll go through all the
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  Speaker 1: options and see who can land on.
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  Speaker 3: think the biggest thing is when we get to the
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  Speaker 3: captain having the Warren discussion because arguments aside of if
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  Speaker 3: he's the Bichon or the Gibbs for this slate, people
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  Speaker 3: are treating him like he is that because his ownership
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  Speaker 3: is definitely pretty much double, I think, everybody else on
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  Speaker 3: the slate.
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  Speaker 4: you to start us with the captains.
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  Speaker 3: Anything you want to add to hoops grand scheme overview,
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  Speaker 3: but I think the big conversation is going to be,
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  Speaker 3: what do you do with Warren? And then where do
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  Speaker 3: you go from there? if you have a portfolio to play.
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  Speaker 2: With yeah Warren for sure in terms of like three
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  Speaker 2: threes four twos five ones definitely expect it to be
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  Speaker 2: more balanced today I think five ones on either side
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  Speaker 2: will be very contrarian we have a close spread at
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  Speaker 2: two and a half low total some solid value on
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  Speaker 2: both sides I guess but I think it's kind of
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  Speaker 2: going to be more middling I don't think people are
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  Speaker 2: going to want to go full, full punts for the
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  Speaker 2: most part, which, as you can see, just looking at
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  Speaker 2: our ownership, kickers and defenses are going to get a
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  Speaker 2: ton of ownership. And a lot of people land in
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  Speaker 2: that range. As far as my captains, yeah, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm already saying Jalen Warren, compare him to Bijan,
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  Speaker 2: because obviously that's not true in real life. Bijan is
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  Speaker 2: out of this world. He is on for me on
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  Speaker 2: this slate today. It's going to be really low scoring.
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  Speaker 2: We're expecting just looking at reception props. Four and a
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  Speaker 2: half for Fannin. Juice on the unders, the highest on
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  Speaker 2: the slate. Warren's coming in number three. Three and a
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  Speaker 2: half reception prop. Look at rushing yards, 75 and a
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  Speaker 2: half for him. The next highest, Buckins, 55 and a half.
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  Speaker 2: No one's expected to catch over 50 receiving yards today.
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  Speaker 2: Only one favorite to score. Touchdowns, Warren, at minus 110.
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  Speaker 2: Then Judkins, 130. And then everyone else is over plus 200.
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  Speaker 2: Anyone that watched the game last week with no Rico,
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  Speaker 2: he played 90% of snaps. He ran bad on the
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  Speaker 2: box score. Easily could have had two touchdowns in that game.
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  Speaker 2: DK's holding was terrible. Everything just sets up, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 2: for Jalen Warren. They're going to want to run the ball.
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  Speaker 2: He can catch dump-offs. He is chalky, but I think
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  Speaker 2: there's enough ways you can get different on this slate,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's leaving money, roster construction-wise. I plan on having
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  Speaker 2: a ton of Jalen Warren and hopefully double the field.
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  Speaker 2: So then after that, it means I'm going to be
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  Speaker 2: pretty low on almost all these. I think my next
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  Speaker 2: two favorites is DK and Deshaun Watson. Like the advanced
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  Speaker 2: metrics for DK have actually been pretty good this year.
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  Speaker 2: And it does only take one big play from him. Again,
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  Speaker 2: if it's single coverage, Rodgers is going to take a
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  Speaker 2: shot to him. So just looking at upside and ceiling,
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  Speaker 2: I want some DK. And then Deshaun Watson, just because
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  Speaker 2: of his rushing upside, if he rushes one touchdown in
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  Speaker 2: and throws one, the game's low scoring enough, that could
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  Speaker 2: be enough. And there's so many ways to play Watson
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  Speaker 2: at captain because of his rushing upside and the different
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  Speaker 2: options he has. in terms of receivers. So those are
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  Speaker 2: my three favorites. And again, because I'll have so much
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Warren, it's going to be pretty hard to get
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  Speaker 2: overweight on too many of these other guys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think the biggest one is like, so anybody that's
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  Speaker 3: And we make it really easy to compare, right? We've
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  Speaker 3: got the captain leverage right on there. Hoop, I'll kick
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  Speaker 3: it to you, but Jalen Warren at this ownership is
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  Speaker 3: still under-owned at the captain. So, you know, we'll see
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  Speaker 3: where you want to go with this option, but how
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  Speaker 3: are you handling Jalen Warren? And then talk to us
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  Speaker 3: about the captain position as a whole.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely in on Jalen Warren. Like I think he's a,
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  Speaker 1: Phenomenal play. Loved him last week.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he ended up.
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  Speaker 1: Being on my main team on DraftKings. Ended up doing
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  Speaker 1: pretty well. That little Lions jet stack that we talked
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  Speaker 1: about on Sunday morning paid off and had some more
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  Speaker 1: in there. Massive workload. I mean, we joked about the comparison,
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  Speaker 1: but the workload is similar to those guys where he's
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  Speaker 1: going to get all the work, goal line work, pass
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  Speaker 1: catching work, where his game just really fits DK scoring
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  Speaker 1: really well. And, you know, he's fine obviously on FanDuel
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  Speaker 1: too in this sort of workload, but he can rack
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  Speaker 1: up a ton of points in a variety of ways.
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  Speaker 1: You know, seven, eight catch reception upside with Aaron Rodgers,
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  Speaker 1: who's totally fine dumping it off to running back. So
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  Speaker 1: phenomenal play. And then the question is like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: after him, what do you do? And I feel pretty
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  Speaker 1: good about my second guy. It's Deshaun Watson. I think
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  Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is my second favorite captain and, And it's
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  Speaker 1: a volume-based play. And, you know, on a slate where
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  Speaker 1: scoring could be low, you got a guy that rushed
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  Speaker 1: the ball 11 times last week, 11 times for a quarterback. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he only had like 45 yards. But if
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  Speaker 1: that is 50 or 60 yards, you're starting with five
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  Speaker 1: or six points right out of the gate. And then
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  Speaker 1: if somehow he does rush one in, it's an absolute
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  Speaker 1: free roll the rest of the way. I think he's
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  Speaker 1: clearly– My number two favorite option, we're showing him at 12%,
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  Speaker 1: not worried about that at all. When you're talking about captains,
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  Speaker 1: I don't really even factor in ownership until these guys
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: hit 20 or so. Jalen Warren is obviously at 20,
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: but that means everyone else on the slate is going
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: to be much, much lower. What's the difference between 8%
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: and 12%? It's nothing. All these guys are going to
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: be 15% or lower in on Watson. And then after him,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like a group of guys that I'm
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: interested in. DK Metcalf is definitely one of them. Very
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: disappointing to start the year, but it's one of those
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: situations like Aaron Rodgers is going to figure out a
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: way to get this guy to football at some point
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: on a consistent basis. And it could very easily be tonight.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: And he's the guy that when he does get going,
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: it's like 50 yard touchdown or something. And we'll break
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: the slate open. I could see him getting like a little,
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: you know, a little short pass and just takes the house.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: And I think that's definitely in the cards, maybe a
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: little slant or something for, for 50 yards. And if
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: that is the case, you know, I know our social
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: media does those little clips of the videos from the show.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: I want it to be played here because I'm kind
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: of calling that shot. I can definitely see it happen.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: DK Metcalf, 50 yards slant to the house. After that,
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, guys like Fannin to me are
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: very interesting up top, not an expensive play on the slate, but,
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: You look at the workload. Didn't do much week one.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: It was kind of a disaster for the Browns, but
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: six targets in week two, nine targets last week. It's
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: probably the preferred option. He played well last season. He's
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: my next guy in line, but really pretty similar to
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: what title said. I want a lot of Jalen Warren.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: If you're going to go overweight on Jalen Warren, that's
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: going to be a lot of your ownership in the
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: captain spot because he's Probably like 25-ish percent. So if
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: you do make a play on him and play, you know,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: 40 percent, it kind of gobbles up what you do
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: with the rest. So it'll probably be a pretty tight
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: group for me. It's going to be Warren. It's definitely
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: going to be Deshaun Watson. I'll say Fannin next and
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: then DK Metcalf. Those are my top four. And then,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: you know, outside of that, it would just be sprinkles.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Of other guys.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of things there right away. It's funny
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: you said that about not just the Metcalf call. First off,
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: you had the Gino call last week. I mean, you
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: said it, which was hilarious that you were title. I
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: recapped it on Monday. The social media team put it out.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: You're like, I'm a little biased, but I'm just being honest,
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: like Gino versus this defense. And that's also my team.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: And it was Gino on Seattle last time against Detroit
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: the same way. And then it ended up showing up
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: on takedown breakdown on pretty much every winning roster. So
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: you had that.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: But it's something, it's something I'd have to cut you off,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: but it's definitely something to take note of. It's one
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: of those situations where we were ahead of the curve
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: on the DAC stuff and the Cowboys a couple of
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: years ago, where they're just passing and passing and passing.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: This is a legit situation. People might, and the Lions
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: are on this main slate, so we can't really take
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: advantage of it this week, but their, their secondary is
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: atrocious and this will happen all season long. So I
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: think the Lions game stacks, as soon as we get
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: them back on a main slate, just go right back
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: to it, no matter who they're playing. it doesn't matter.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: You just go right back to it. I mean, it's
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: a situation to take advantage of.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: Sunday night football this week. Everyone's mad now because we're
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: finally going to get the game where JMO goes off
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: because horns out now and it's the Panthers, right? So
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: they're already, you got two bad secondaries now that Carolina's
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: lost their guy. And then you got the spot where
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: JMO could actually break the slate and go off. Like,
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: of course I can't get this on a main slate,
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: but our guy Hamhock on Monday had the Luther burden call.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: We teased and joked that if it's not 45 exact yards,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: but still pretty damn good. And it happened right out
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: of the gate.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: And then I pulled up the notes of, on DFSOS
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: for Metcalf.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Just see what are we seeing lately? And right away,
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: it's reminding people that last year versus the Browns, not
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: that this means anything, but funny, the line hoop said
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: it was nine targets. DK Metcalf had four catches for
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: 95 yards and a TD. So just, you know, showing
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: you what type of game you can see and what
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: could happen. Again, nothing to do with last year versus
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: this year, but a ton of different ways you can go.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: My take at the captain, is probably going to have
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: to stay around field with Warren and just hope that
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: the field builds really bad lineups with him. And I've
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: got enough good ones because I actually like a lot
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: of the other options. I get that he projects off
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: the page, but what title said earlier is so important
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: to me. If we are like, again, these two teams
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: blow it up. And for once we get a Thursday
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: night football game with two bad teams that ends up
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: going off great for TV watching, probably not going to
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: be great for my lineups, but maybe it can get there.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: But I think it is going to stay, um, you know,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: a little bit more sluggish. And for those types of, um, slates,
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: I know that it could just be Warren because of that.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: And I'll have a bunch of them. I'll probably have
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: 25% of him or somewhere in that range, but I
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: want some of the guys that leverage that. I think, um,
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Another thing that gets talked about, I saw this on
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: X today, is like, oh, if Aaron Rodgers never runs,
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: so why would you play him at captain? If it's
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: not going to be this crazy back and forth game,
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: then we might not need rushing yards. And if Watson
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: puts rushing yards up, then great. But it's like at
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: the other side, you've got the guy for $ 300 more
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: than Warren. And we listed off Warren catching passes, literally
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: the third best prop. I think title said for receiving, you've.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: Got Metcalf, you got Pittman, Roman Wilson, Friermuth, Darnell Smashington,
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: this guy out there, just run them dudes over.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: So it's like, there's a ton of guys he can
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: throw the ball to. And if it's going to be
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: lower scoring, or if it ends up that way, it could,
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: it could be high scoring. And he's part of that
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: as well. Like title said, we just saw maybe a
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Keenum inspires Rogers to finally get things going, but either way,
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: it's definitely possible. So I like that. I like your
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: guys' call on Metcalf as a whole, just in general,
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: like Metcalf or Pittman. I think those are the two.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: 10-5 and 13-5 in the captain. So I'm in on
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: both of those guys. And then on the other side,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: it's probably more like the receivers than anything else. Like
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Watson's up there for sure, but it's Concepcion, Boston and Fannin.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: And you can't play them all at a high enough clip,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: but I currently see like Boston, Concepcion and Fannin combining
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: for like, 10 to 12% in the captain, the way
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: things are going to shake out. So you'll be able
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: to get a overweight stance on those guys. Just fine. So, um,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: I get the Warren love and it's look, he's going
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: to get the volume like you guys talked about, but
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be trying to leverage that up via
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: his own guys, Rogers Metcalf Pittman. And then on the
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: other side, Concepcion, Boston fan, and then, you know, some Watson,
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: but I think Watson and Warren will probably be like field.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: And the other guys are where I get overweight. Um,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: hoop anything else you want to add there if not
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: you could talk us through uh anything else at quarterback
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: as a whole maybe a rebuttal on the rogers stuff
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: tell me how bad he is but i've got interest
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: in the leverage angle of it.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: You know i mean it looked better last week i
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: mean made some of those long long passes and um
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: you know the key obvious i mean he's got two
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: capable guys in dk metcalf and you know michael pitman
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: i think he's gonna develop a better connection with those
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: guys as the season goes on so i don't hate
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: it um you know, for, for captain, you know, I
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: don't really know how much I'll get there, but in,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: in flux, we always talk about it, you know, in,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: for the quarterbacks, like if they fit in there and
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: they make sense, then you're just going to kind of
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: play them. I mean, they have a very high floor,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: higher floor than basically any other position on the field.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: So good with either. I definitely, like I said, prefer, uh, Watson, um,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: if deciding between the two, if it's a neutral situation
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: really doesn't matter for, roster construction, I would, I would
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: take Watson. Those 11 rush attempts are just stuck in
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: my head and I can't really forget about it. So
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Watson over Rogers, but definitely both good for flex.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Our guy new ones is trying to make his hammock
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: call here. He said, Concepcion nuke for all the kids
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: on national TV, calling the post game interview right now
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: with his stutter, pulling a ham hock, calling my shot.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Casey going to nuke tonight. So That would be, um,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: you know, something that would definitely be big for this slate.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Like it's currently looks like he's going to come in
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: around 5% in the captain and he's 9,600. So, you know,
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: you'd get a unique roster compared to using Warren or
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Metcalf or that that's the other thing title. I'll go
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: back to you and just stick with quarterback, but didn't
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: take us into running back from there. But it's like
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: the other thing about captain, just wrapping it up is, um,
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Rogers Warren Metcalf and Watson are all 13, five through 14, seven.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: So you're getting a very similar build. And really with,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: to me, it's like, okay, both Watson and Rogers can
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: go into a ton of lineups, especially if people are
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: playing for lower owned or sorry, like a lower scoring
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: type build, because if you're going to put Metcalf, people
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: are naturally going to have Rogers and then you can
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: fit Watson. If they're not playing Warren or whatever, like
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: they're gonna have to make their choice that way, but
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: it feels like a lot of lineups will have three
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: of those guys.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, I would say probably. And to be honest,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: I think one way, cause I am eating so much
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: chalk with Warren at captain in flex, I can drop
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: either quarterback to, uh, DK Pittman, Friermuth, Casey, Boston fan.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: And I think that's what I'll be looking at. Any
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: of them can outscore those quarterbacks in a vacuum, especially
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: if not many points are scored. Like if these quarterbacks
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: don't push it down the field, a ton on a
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: full point PPR site, like draft Kings eight for 50,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: 13 points is really good. It could outscore that quarterback.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: So I think I'm going to be underway quarterbacks, probably
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: captain and flex, to be honest, uh, Because that's the
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: easiest way. I don't love these full punts when it
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: comes to leaving money on the table. I think my
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: favorite way to leave money is those quarterbacks to the
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: cheaper pass catchers is how I'm looking at it right now.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one thing about that that I'll add then, and
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: then I'll let you take it into running back, is
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: just one thing you said there that stands out that's
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: kind of interesting is like if you went– Uh, Fannin captain,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: not only do you have a unique roster construction, cause
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: you're starting with the guy at 11, but you would definitely,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: it would still make a ton of sense to have
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: Watson who we like up in the captain slot, as
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: well as Warren, who we like up the cap in
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: your flex. Cause like it's tells the story, like fan
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: and has the guy with them. Warren's on the other side,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: still getting his volume. It's just, how does the game
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: play out? And, and then build it that way. It's
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: no different. If you go, um, Concepcion or Boston or
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: something up to like Boston's kind of expensive. So I
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: don't think people are going to love that, but if
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: you put him up top, you still got Watson, no problem.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: You still get.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Warren, no problem, or you could get it and fade
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Warren that way and have Rogers.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: You got both quarterbacks, but not Warren up top. You
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: leave Warren out of that build. And then you're able
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: to get the pass catchers on both sides and just
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: hope that it is a I'll let you take us
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: into running back in a second, but our guy go collect,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: bringing an inside joke from the ship at nation discord
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: over says judge afternoon. You just put a J in
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: your name and this was the takeaway and it's been
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: working for people. A lot of winners based on James,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: their names to putting a jail front, but Jacob, Jason, Joe,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: and even James has a J at the last of
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: his name, but it just constantly, the J's just show up.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: It's a common name, I guess, but it does pop
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: up quite a bit that we see these.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: J's are running hot right now.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: The Jays are running hot. So not the Blue Jays,
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: that is.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: No sign of the playoffs this year after making it
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: all the way to the World Series last year and
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: being one mogging away from getting the job done in
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: the outfield there when, what's his buddy, Pajas or whatever
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: they say. It looks like Pages, but it says Pajas
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: when he just dunked on his own guy. Just dropped
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: the ball one time and the Jays hit it and
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: it's over.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Or Rojas is a homer. That was so, what a
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: World Series. All this stuff.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Baseball is so good.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: I got a couple of mega tickets in the baseball street.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Actually, it's pretty, pretty sweet. Same lineup and fell asleep,
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: pulled a hoopster. I was like, oh, this guy's got
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Tatis Jr. And I'm only up like six points in
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: both of the cues and like the satellites. And I'm like,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: oh man, I'm just sitting here. Last thing I remember
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: seeing is sixth inning. It was four to one and
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: I woke up and it was still four to one.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: I got two tickets in the account. So pretty pumped.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I saw you played opening day two in the three 33.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: And so Bellman was up there. So playoff baseball is fun.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I had a ticket for that. And then once
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: I had a ticket, I was like, I got to
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: just play another. So I wanted to like offset them.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: I ended up min cashing it. And I think I
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: got six 50 back on my six 57 on the
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: six 66, but one was a ticket. So we grind
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: in these streets, you know, it depends, but baseball, I
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: like it when they put the tickets up.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: For NFL.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Cause it's just another access point to it versus like
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: waiting for tonight when you're going to be in them
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: as well. Tonight also is a bunch of FFWCs, but
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: they have like.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: The $ 84 qualifier.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: To the 5k, which is a chance to play against
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: like 15 teams, as opposed to having to beat, you know,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: a couple of hundred or thousands of teams to get in.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: So I like that one as well, but I digress. I'll,
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: I'll kick it over to you a title. We're talking
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: about running backs. Now, if you don't have anything else
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: at the quarterback.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Position, Yeah, two more. You said Jays are hot. I
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: bet G. Rison's probably got a J that's hot right
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: now currently while he's watching, if he's even watching.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Joe Jagan. Jagan is like a term for like smoking
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: a Jag. So it's like that is like an urban
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: dictionary version. I was like, oh, man, G. Rison's going
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: to love this one.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I just spoke to G rising yesterday, man. This upcoming
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: weekend's a weekend. I usually get together with them, but
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I had, you know, something I can't make it. That
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: was the last year. I think I sent you the
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: video title.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: At the camper. Yeah.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: At the campus. I can't, can't make it this year. Unfortunate.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Huh? What'd you say? I was going to shot by
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: a buddy 44 scorcher. He took down the qualifier last week,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: the four 90. So shout out to him. That was
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: one of his goals.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Definitely a crusher. That's huge, man.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: You've got to love that. Is this his first time ever?
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he just got into DFS. He won the Arizona
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: State Championship, like a crusher in poker. He's only 27.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Then he transferred to the DFS streets as well.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: He's familiar with the Shippard streets, then, if he's shipping
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: pots over there. Oh, yeah.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: And he knows the Tyler guy, and he plays with them. Yeah,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: shout out to him. It's really hard to qualify for that,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: as we know. But, yeah, jumping to running backs. I mean,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: on the Steeler side, it's just Jalen Warren. He handled
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: pretty much every single snap. I'm not going to mess
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: with any of these other ones. And then for Cleveland, yeah,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: the split was a little worse than I wanted. Butkins
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: only scored or played 51% of snaps, and this Raheem
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Sanders guy played 43%. Now, I'm not expecting that gap
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: to be as close as it was last week, but
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Raheem Sanders is definitely overpriced at 4,400, but he's only
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: showing 6%. Like, if it is going to be that
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: similar split. I don't think it's going to be, but
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: if it is to be, 4,400, really low ownership, a
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: guy that's on the field a little bit, is something
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: that I have a little interest in. As far as Judkins,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: definitely prefer him in the flex to captain. He doesn't
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: really catch passes. His rushing prop's 55.5, which isn't great,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: but his rushing attempts prop is almost the same as
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Warren's at 16.5. If he's getting 17 carries in this game,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: that is something that I would be interested in in
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: the flex. And again, any Watson team, any Rodgers team,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: you can just drop down to Jutkins. It feels like
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: the best case for him, though, is 70 on the
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: ground and two touchdowns, which would be good. But again,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: that's best case. He still has plus 130 to score.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: So I do like Jutkins in the flex quite a bit.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: I compare him with Cleveland defense, but I do not
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: like it as captain as much. But I'm curious to
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: hear your guys' take on this Raheem Sanders cap.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Someone said in the chat sanders eight receptions our boy
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: oracle said sanders eight receptions on the year so i
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: mean anything like that is certainly viable more i mean
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: for the flex for sure but if you're talking about
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: judkins having a 70 yards and two touchdowns or something
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: like that let me slam.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: That captain yeah i don't think i said that's best
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: case for him like yeah i know he hasn't done
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: that probably since he's been drafted you know.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: When title talks about Buckins, he has to lay out
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: the best case scenario. You can't lay out the realistic scenario.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: It's got to be like what.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: He could do. I'll let you talk about that.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Not what he's likely to do. I'll talk about what
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: he's likely to do, and he's not likely to be
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: on the winning lineup tonight. I'll tell you that. I'm
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: definitely out on freaking Buckins tonight. 30, 40% ownership. Like
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: if Buckins beats me at 40% ownership, 8,800 and we're
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: banking on him scoring two touchdowns.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: I'll just, I'll move on to next slate and get
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: ready for, I'll get started researching the main slate for
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: a Sunday instead of, instead of sweating these DFS lineups tonight.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Cause there is no, that's gotta be the worst click
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: of the season right there.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Quote this tweet when Tamborai shipped with Buckins in our lineup.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Worst click of the season is Buckins.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Opposite running back of Warren, and he's on the other side,
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: and it's only a two-and-a-half spread. It's Rodgers. Like, oh, man,
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: this could be the spot.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Sanders is going to outscore Buckins, all right?
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: We'll take it.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: To the next level. What's the prop for Judkins right now?
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: 55 and a half on the ground, plus 130 to score.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: 16 and a half rushing a 10 prop, though, which
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: is high.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: So you're telling me his price should be like 4K
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: on this lane. He's 8,800.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: You just got to get loose, man.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Sanders is outscoring Buckins.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: How about that? So how much Sanders are you going
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: to have?
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: A lot. Yeah, I actually like that. I mean, I
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: looked at those receptions for sure. He's 4,400. You get
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: three receptions, one. five he's pulling in all these targets
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: as well I think he's converted every target except one
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: and that's saying a lot with Watkins throwing me the
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: ball I mean that dude's not very accurate so or
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: with Watson throwing the ball so I like him quite
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: a bit I'll be playing him to me it's yeah
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Warren Sanders and then I'm not playing anyone else at
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: the running back position so that's that's where I'm at
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: and the bold call for sure is Sanders to outscore
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Buckins It's very bold.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: It definitely is. I think it could work out from a, again,
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: it might not work out. You're calling it like raw points.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: That's nuts. But it could really work out from the
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: DFS perspective, because if you're going to need, you know,
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Warren up top or Rogers or Watson or whatever, anything
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: like that, DK Metcalf, like Sanders is just going to
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: make a ton of sense in those lineups. And honestly,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: I think people would be way more apt to play,
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: you know, Roman Wilson on the other side or Friar
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Muth for a thousand, 1500, 1600 bucks more, whatever it is.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: So it's like, um it's only 1200 bucks more and
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: you get the fryer move but you could just play
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: sanders to catch balls on the other side so it
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: makes it uh makes it pretty interesting there i don't
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: have too much else to add i guess the the
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: judkins props is what i was thinking about i'll have
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: sanders in the flex i i definitely would want judkins
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: more in the captain i'll look at my stuff later
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: when i get to it but if.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: He's gonna save yourself some cheese tonight It's like.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: I played Mahomes last week, and that did not work
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: out either. So back to never Mahomes, by the way.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: But sometimes you just have to let the slate come
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: to you, and that one didn't work for me. But
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: if Warren is going to be– this is a prime example.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: We did this– so last year we had a Browns-Jets slate.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: And it was Brees Hall. It was the main slate,
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: mind you. It wasn't showdown, but just to note the
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: example of the situation. It was very similar to this, though.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: But the Jets were at home. They were, I think,
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: one and a half point favorites. And 20% of the
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: field was on Hall. And then they were putting the
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: defense with it and blah, blah, blah. And it was like,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: you just go to the other side with Judkins and
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: the Browns D and it was at 2% for Judkins
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: versus 20 for hall and like 1% versus 18 on
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: the defense. And lo and behold, a one and a
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: half point spread went the other way. And it was
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: by a big margin and Judkins crushed. And I'm not
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: expecting him to do that because it has nothing to
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: do with that. It's just saying people get very confident
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: in one, one side here. I would, if Judkins is
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: to actually do anything, uh, I think it would be
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: in the captain. That's my thoughts, but he'll fall into
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: line in other places, I'm sure. Nothing else for me
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: at the running back position, Hoops. I'll let you take
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: it into wide receiver if you want. You can do
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: one more about how bad Judkins is. You can tell
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: us one more time.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to leave it right there. Enough said
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: and just move on, right? I think that's probably best
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: for the show if we just leave the Buck and
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: stuff where it's at. I'm sure at some point I'll
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: take another shot, but for now we're going to talk
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: wide receiver and It is crazy. Look at it. Just
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: just looking at the projected fantasy points from from the
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: wide receivers on the slate. We have nobody higher than
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: 11 fantasy points. Right. That's like kind of insane. It
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: would take these two teams. You know, I think almost
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: every other team, maybe besides like the Titans or maybe
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: a couple other examples. But this is a very, very
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: low number. So, I mean, really, when you're playing these
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: wide receivers, it's just going to be all, you know,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: correlation sort of thing. correlation stuff within your lineups. Just
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: talking about the Pittsburgh guys, like I said, DK Metcalf
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: is going to get something going. I wouldn't be surprised
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: if it is tonight, 50-yard touchdown. He's going to be
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: the highest owned. It's not a crazy number, though. It's
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: not like we're saying he's going to be 50%, 30%.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: We're showing 32% in the flex fine play. Michael Pittman,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: had high hopes for him coming into the season, really
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: hasn't panned out. I do still want to be on
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: him today. And then Roman Wilson, He's the one that
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: kind of broke Aaron Rodgers out of the slow start
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: and had the big touchdown last week, 4K. I think
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: he's a fine option as well. I'm good with all
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: those guys. I guess maybe I just talk myself into
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: some Rodgers captain because I do like these pass catchers, Metcalf, Pittman,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: and Wilson. So maybe I will circle back and add
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: in some Rodgers captain to the conversation that we had earlier.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: The Cleveland side is a little more difficult for me.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: I guess a lot more difficult just because– I like Watson,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: but I like Watson because of the 11 rush attempts.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: And if he's going to rush that much, it's going
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: to be less passing. So, Concepcion, Boston, Jerry Judy, not
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: as interested. So, definitely prefer the Pittsburgh side. But, I mean,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Jerry Judy, 3K. Like, what has he done this year?
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I do want to pull that up. Obviously, not much. Yeah,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: that's what I was going to say. If he's down
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: to 3K.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Is that enough? Wow.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Literally, you're right.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: It could not be worse for him.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Zero for zero.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Hoop froze, I.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Think.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Remember Jerry, Judy, Jack, just a guy? Just a guy?
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: He's definitely just.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: A guy at the end of my best ball teams
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: getting me absolutely nothing.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Am I back in there?
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're back in there.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it follows the Js, though. Jerry, Judy, got
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: that whole thing going, but wow, he's done nothing.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Him or Buckins?
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I'd play Jerry Judy at 3K over Buck Kennedy for sure. Yeah, definitely.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: One other name, though, that does this Bernard guy for
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: the Steelers. I know they had high hopes for him
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: coming into the season. Really hasn't been involved, but that's
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: probably mostly because the offense has been. So he had
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: eight targets in week two. Obviously didn't do much last week.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: And then last week you had one catch, but Roman
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Wilson kind of excelled that week. So I still want
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: to include them again, especially if you're doing the Aaron
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Rogers captain teams, I think definitely include them, but clearly
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: feel way better about the Pittsburgh side than the Cleveland
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: side here.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: Well, that's what I was trying to, I kept trying
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: to look it up.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: I thought I saw it a couple of times today.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: So what happened? Like, I don't follow it enough for
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: that to remember it exactly, but, of Roman Wilson stats,
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: but he caught a touchdown in the first half and
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: they got benched in the second after like a, a bad,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: drop that led to an interception or something. Like, I
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: think that's what everyone's saying. I, and like Rogers got
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: him benched or something, maybe is what they were trying
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: to trying to say, but said he got pretty much
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: benched after the INT barely played in the second half
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: after having five targets in the first Rogers has a
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: history of benching a young wide receiver who has a
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: mistake in the past. Any worries about that? Blah, blah, blah.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: People are talking about. So I'm curious.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: See what he actually ends up doing today, but on
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: this slate, you can play you know, any of these guys.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: I think somebody asked this earlier title. What do you
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: do here with this one?
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Justin says, if you're playing two pass catchers on either side,
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: are you locking in their quarterback to match?
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. Just because if it's low
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: scoring enough and all of those, like the eight dots
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: on a lot of these guys are so small, six
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: catches for 30 yards is in play. So if that's
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: the case, your quarterback's getting essentially nothing in those. And
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: it's a full point PPR that's helping. I mean, I
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if the game does go under, You
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: might see a snowflake in your lineup in the optimal
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: when it's all said and done just with the nature
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: of the slate. So I wouldn't force that. Obviously, it
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: makes sense to do that. But if you don't do
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: that and it works, that's how you eliminate dupes, anti-correlation,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: and showdown. Yeah.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Agreed on that. Especially if you have that game, you know,
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: being a lower scoring game, it's, you know, it could
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: be one of those situations where it's just like you said,
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: six for 35. And it's like, that's still pretty solid
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: and you may not need the quarterback because that's how
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: you can get different and unique in your own way.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: I'll kick it over to you title for the wide
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: receiver stuff.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh side. I do think Roman will. So I'm going
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: to go back to him. 20 and a half is
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: receiving prop. I think he's my favorite in the flex,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: like Pittman's 33 and a half receiving yards when, Wilson's 20.5,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: and Pittman's 7K, and Wilson's 4K. I can easily go
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: any Pittman team drop to Wilson and leave 3K, and
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: I don't even think I'm sacrificing much. It's been really,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: really bad for Michael Pittman this year. If you think
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: that the benching is going to carry over, then I
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: think Jeremy Bernard is the one that would take advantage.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Ben Skronik and Bernard mixed in. It's really hard to
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: play Ben Skronik in 2026 for me, so I do
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: think Bernard would be fine at 3,200 if you think
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: that way. Yeah, DK Pittman, they're going to be on
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: the field. I like DK a good bit, but I
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: think Roman Wilson at that price tag when looking to
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: leave money is good. On the Cleveland side, man, I
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: think Concepcion in Boston, I'm going to be on the
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Concepcion side. His price tag at 6,400 is really good
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: on this slate. I do think Boston's fine as well.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: They're going to be without Tylan Wallace today, which isn't
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: the biggest deal, but he played 20% of snaps last
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: week when Judy played 50. So maybe that gives Judy
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: 65% of snaps or something. Again, it's been as bad
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: as it gets. He's 3K, though, in one play. I mean,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: one catch for 50 yards or something might be enough
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: on a slate like this. Do I love it? Absolutely not.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: He has a 14.5 receiving prop. Like, again, all of these.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Only one player in this game in DK is projected
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: to have over 40 receiving yards. That's terrible. Like, it's
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: absolutely terrible. So I think that's why Roman Wilson, Concepcion's
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: are my favorite because they don't break the bank. Yeah,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: but receiver's kind of gross. Tight end, I think, is
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: a lot more interesting because Steelers use these tight ends
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: almost as pass catchers and Fannin as well.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: That's the tricky part, and we're going to get there
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: in a second, but it's like Fryermuth and Fannin, you know, Rogers, Watson, Warren, Friermuth, Fannin,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: like that's, and then obviously DK on one side and
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: like a mix of Concepcion, Boston on the other, but
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: that's kind of like the pool that people are playing in.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, there's very few
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: receivers in that pool. It's like, it's a lot of
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: running backs, quarterbacks, tight ends. And then obviously we haven't
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: even got to defenses and kickers, which look to be
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: pretty owned today as well. When you get these lower
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: scoring thoughts and things like that, that people have. So
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: it makes it you know, find yours. It makes it
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: a little bit easier to find a unique lineup, but
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: then it makes it a little bit harder to trust
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: on if that's going to be the thing. So I
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: like having a portfolio for a day like today specifically,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: but hoop, I don't know if anything else resonated for
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: you there, but I forgot you didn't, you didn't say
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: much about Rashi rice and victory that he was seven
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: for 88 last week. I was, I mentioned my homes earlier.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Literally didn't sniff any optimal you ever looked at. You
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: did not want to play. You did not want to
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: play where she writes with Garrett Wilson right there.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't take the victory lap because he didn't
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: find the box. But if he finds the box, it's
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: a whole different story. So it's like he was better.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle or something.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I didn't. I was not. Tambo tried walking
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: me down the plank, and I didn't take the bait there.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: I can't fully victory lap that. But the main point
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: of the show was the Jets and Lions, and that
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: got the job done. Yeah, you were right. The Rasheed
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Rice thing.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Like the stuff about like two weeks in and someone's
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: dust or they're no good. Yeah.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: No, Rasheed Rice is going to be totally fine.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Tidal will eventually– He did that against the JV Dolphins team.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: He's dust.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: We got time.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: It's only what? It's week three. Tidal will definitely have
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: to– before the season's over, he's going to have to
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: walk that one back and I'm going to wait it out.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: It's fine. We got a long season ahead of us.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: You know it. I think Tambo's on my side on
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: this one. I have a feeling he's on my side.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: I just don't like writing guys off so early.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: And it was like you said, it was very, you know,
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: there was opportunities for him there.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: The Chiefs made mistakes.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: I'm waiting. I'm waiting.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: Don't worry.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: I got that thing queued up right in the back
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: of my head, ready to go at any point. It
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: wasn't after last week, but it's going to be soon.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Who did I tag you on Sunday and ask about title?
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: I forget. You were probably busy doing something else, but
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: I remember tagging you like, where does this guy land
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: on the dust chart?
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Because it was like, Oh, he did something insanely bad.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: I can't remember. I'll try and think. Oh, man. I
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: can go to Discord. We'll figure it out.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we can search Discord right after. All right, cool.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: I'll go to you, Hoop, then stick with you. Let's
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: go to tight end. Title mentioned, obviously, Friar Muth catching passes.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: You know, Fannin definitely looks good in this spot. I
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: think more people just are comfortable going to tight end
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: in general. The chat's already talking about Darnell Washington. We
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: know what his capabilities are. So give us your thoughts
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: here at the tight end position.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely like the position. I mean, talk about Fanon,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: you know, really like Fanon, want to play him up
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: top too. So definitely going to like him. And even
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: in Watson captain teams, I like him. Friermuth, fine play.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: And then, you know, Darnell Washington at 3,600. I mean,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: you know, we always say, you know, someone's a grown
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: ass man. This guy is the definition of a grown
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: ass man where he will just run your ass over
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: and he'll do it for, it's not like it's just like, okay,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: it's a 10-yard play and he ran a guy over.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: When he runs dudes over, it's like 40, 50 yards,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: which is crazy when you look at him. He has
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: the one-play slate-breaking upside at his price at $ 3, 600. If
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: they get him the ball at the 20-yard line and
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: he runs a dude over and gets a touchdown, that's
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: all you're going to need from him at $ 3, 600. A
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: couple of things now that we've talked about all these
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: skill possession players. I don't have the exact numbers, but
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: this is going to be a Pittsburgh heavy slate in
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: terms of ownership. I mean, it's just going to have
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: to be. There's going to be probably a lot of 4-2s,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: I'd imagine, in favor of Pittsburgh tonight. It's going to
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: be a very common roster build because there's just so
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: many more viable, not viable, so many more comfortable plays
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: on the Pittsburgh side. So I think we're going to
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: see a lot of that. And then Circling back to
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: that captain thing, I definitely, with so many viable options
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers, including the running back and Jalen Warren
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: as a passing target, I think I want Rodgers in
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: captain now because there is a path for him to
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: throw three touchdowns to three different guys. So I'm definitely
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: now in on the Rodgers captain stuff after talking through
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: all these skilled position guys.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Title, who was it? It was Romo Dunzey. You look
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: it up.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Who is it?
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Cause he dropped that touchdown.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: That was bad. That was so bad, man.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: But who are the other guys now?
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: So it was Rashi rice, Romo dunes.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: And there was two more before that from the actual
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: show that we talked about.
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: There was dust on the show. Who was the other
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: dust guys?
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: Like that guy's help us out.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Somebody got to remember who we were talking about on
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: the Sunday show, man. You know what?
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: It could be an expert opportunity.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: Let me see if I can see.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Was it Geno? I know he's talking shit about my
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: guy Geno. It could have been that.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. The reason, and it really sucked, but
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: all Geno teams played Garrett Wilson, but when you played
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Sadiq with him, which I didn't do, that was the
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: sharp play. You needed both, obviously.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, double it up.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: You needed the doubles. I had the.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I included Amonra, which, I mean, I still did well.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, I had a really good day on DK.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy in that game? That many points scored.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: And a touchdown is 11. If he doesn't score the touchdown,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: it's a full-on freaking bust.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Like, full-on bust. But, yeah.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: It's just always Gibbs, I guess, man. Oh, it's next level.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: So, if Gibbs is on a slate, but you talked
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: about it earlier, it's frustrating watching Bijan because, like, the
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: one game he does nothing– And the next superhuman, like
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: he's just off the planet ability of the stuff that
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: he does. But it feels like Gibbs does that every time.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Every time.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Never fails with him. He's just so, so good.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Too good.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: But they use them so well. They use them in
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: the slot to run a slant route. Like linebackers can't
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: guard them.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: He's too good. I'm trying to see how powerful this
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: thing is right now, just to check it out. Well, you,
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: you can take us into tight end if you want there.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have much. I think the tight ends
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: are good. Fannin, obviously, on the brown side coming off
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: a big game. But Fryermuth and Darnell, they both played
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: over 60% of snaps last week. They're going to run
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: two tight end sets. Fryermuth is definitely involved. And yeah, Washington,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: just a grown-ass man. And they want to get him
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: the rock. So I think both of them are very
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: solid for their price. And you can leave money. Any
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: DK team can be Fryermuth. I mean, I assume many
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: remember last year's bingles uh steelers thursday night game later
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: in the year where every single tight end i feel
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: like had 100 yards and a touchdown or something and
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: one of the most wild games flacco rogers so the
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: tight ends are very valuable all three of.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Them yeah i was gonna look it up here and
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: see just one sec it was was it somebody else
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: man like mclaurin was in was.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: He one of them i mean i think terry's good
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: in real life it hasn't been great for.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Him Raiders at the Saints.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: He just needed Daniels to get hurt, and then he
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: has a good game.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: This is what's way more important anyway because everybody knows
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: about all these other tight ends. We don't need to
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: talk about it. Is Fanon a top 10 tight end?
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but tonight he's a top two tight end.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: That's a funny-ass picture.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. It just reminds me. Now when I see him,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: I just think of Paul Pierce. getting in the wheelchair
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: that's like that's all i can that's all i can
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: picture now.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: That was great he was like he's out for like
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: five years a day week to week career ender meanwhile
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: darts trying to come back and the dude tears his
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: acl or whatever like yeah did you.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: See the one of uh the other night when keenan
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: was making his speech and caleb's standing there in the
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: robe And someone said, this man didn't break a sweat tonight.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: He still got in the shower with the boys. Real
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: team player, just making fun of him.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: That was an impressive end. The Keenum performance is very impressive, man.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Ben Johnson is just such a genius. He's levels above
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: so many of these coaches.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Sirianni?
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Moron.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Fourth and one, and he took a delay a game
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: to punt? That's a fireable offense right away. Your win
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: equity drops significantly from one decision. How are you not
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: canned on Tuesday?
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: That is horrible and then like Jalen Hurts has to
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: be like the most just gutless quarterback in the NFL
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: like just like just nothing just so blah like how
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: the hell did they win a freaking Super Bowl I.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: Forgot who wasn't with us on Monday. How about them
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: Dallas calls down the stretch? Everyone was worried about the
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: one second left on the clock. It's like, don't even
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: allow yourself to get in that position. First of all,
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: but it was a disaster. People like always say like, Oh,
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: you think you can coach better?
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: No.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: I'm not a better coach.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: I do. Than Sirianni? I think I could coach better
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: than Nick Sirianni.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: Is there any stuff that you watch happen like that?
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: And you're like, buddy, I don't need to tell you
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: I'm a better coach. I'm just telling you what would
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: be very wrong to do in that situation. And they
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: did like three of those things.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: It's like, I'm not saying like, yeah, it's tough to
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: criticize these guys because obviously they did something right to
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: get to where they're at. But like the hard part
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: is when you just see the just most basic common
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: sense stuff, like the just most basic common sense situations.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: And they just can't do it. I honestly think it
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: goes back to all a majority of these guys just
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: have that syndrome where they want to be the smartest
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: in the room. And like a lot of them will
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: just overlook the most obvious thing to try to do
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: something different to say they're smarter than everyone else. But
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: like the punting thing, you're down two scores. Like your
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: odds of winning the game go down significantly as soon
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: as that football leaves the punter's foot. Like it drops
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: a significant number. Like that's common sense.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: When did they not push push? They always push push.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Like what? Why not there? Yeah.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: I just don't get how people act like it's not
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: a big.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: When you go into the meeting, if the game's over, the.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: Owner says, why the hell did you do this? It's
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: like the answer would just be math.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Easy.
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: They can't deny the math if they did it right.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: When they don't do it, it's like, how does it
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: not go the other way? Isn't the owner like, you're
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: an absolute idiot. The math is horrible, what you just
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: did there. You need to think smarter next time and
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: make the proper move. You'd think there's some sort of
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: inner intersection there where it's like one is smart and
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: the other stupid. And they tell the other person that
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: respectfully as working together, it's like, but that's the way
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: it should go. It's like, I made the call because this,
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: or you should have made the call because this like
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: that to me seems second nature, but your boy, Blake
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: Whiteheart going back to the game here needs a follow.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: First of all, 30 seasons building up a falling over there.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: But he says this title, God doesn't call the qualified.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: He qualifies the called.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's a line.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: Beast mode, 6'4. This is what he's working with down here,
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: you know, the combine, you know, muscles showing. He got
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: the girl going for him. So what do we think
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: about Blake Whiteheart here? Just $ 1, 600. We got a real
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: projection on this guy tonight. This could be the spot.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: What do you think?
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: His reception, I can tell, his receiving yards prop is 3.5.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Slight juice on the over. He played 39% of snaps.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure it's the right slate for it, but, yeah,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, what? It takes one touchdown maybe. Probably not
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: for me. Is it for you?
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: I think we're definitely getting him into the pool tonight. Yeah,
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: like this guy's got to go in there at that price,
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: and we just cheer. What was the guy the other day?
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: First we had Raridon.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: That one worked.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: Not fully, but worked some.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: And then the other guy was, I mean, Higby was
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: pretty low.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: Wasn't Higby this price?
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Higby was low. I forget who the other guy was, though.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: He was like $ 200, where like a zero would maybe
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: be enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, and then a freaking
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: the other tight end caught the touchdown, I think, or
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: something like the third stringer. I was so tilted. Hooper. Yeah,
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: I knew it. Hooper caught the touchdown instead. I was like,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: come on. Yeah, that's right.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: That was good. We always like to mess with the
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: tight ends a little bit, but people are playing like
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: it's the other side. Washington's obviously way better. You know,
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: if you could just take one out of the three
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: or one of the four that I'm not going to
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: put Whiteheart lumped into, I'll take Washington. But as the
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: guy that I would pick is like the underdog guy.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: But Whiteheart would be the guy for two thousand bucks
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: cheaper that you could just get. Hopefully he catches some passes,
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: see what happens. But like you said earlier, you could
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: see a snowflake. Well, give him his one catch for 3.5 yards.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: Give him a four-yard catch. Give the prop people an
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: over and give him the points that he's required that's
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: better than a zero with a snowflake.
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: So I just think on this slate, it just depends
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: on how you.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: Want to build it out. But I think a lot
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: of people will need one guy down low because they're
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: playing Rodgers, Warren, Watson, Judkins, and whatever. But it's just
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: playing for a lot of splits that way. So kickers
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: and D hoop, I'll kick it over to you. It
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: looks like the.
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: Steeler side, like you mentioned, it's Steelers heavy.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: It's no different there, but we are showing like pretty
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: high ownership more than usual on kickers and D's tonight.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: So your, your thoughts on that. Yeah.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm always a little skeptical whenever the defenses
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: are showing some ownership because, you know, typically I'm always
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: under on the defenses personally, but even so like a
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: lot of times it ends up being higher than we're
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: even anticipating and showing. So we're showing right around 30.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if it's higher than, on that
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: Steelers defense and their real price at 5k. So for
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: me personally, I'll be, you know, below the field on
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: those guys. And then kickers, I'm always, always good with
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: the kickers, especially like low scoring games. So probably going
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: to be lower on the defenses, which I typically am.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: I think they will be higher owned than we're even anticipating.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: And then obviously good, good with the kickers as always.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, could just see a bunch of kicking back and forth.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: Could see a captain kicker tonight maybe. You got Boswell
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: almost 8,000, so if people are playing Friermuth at 8,400,
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: it's 7,800 for Boswell.
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: We've seen plenty of those slates. So, title, anything from
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: you on kickers and defenses?
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's craziest to put either at
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: the captain. I like him a lot because I think
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: any Watson or Friermuth, pretty much anyone but Jalen Warren,
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: it's about seven points you'd be giving up from the
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks to that. one play, like we can see a
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: seven point change in NFL for sure. So I think
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: the ability to leave chunks of money with them over
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: some of the higher price ones are very viable. Both offenses,
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: when they get in the red zone can struggle kickers
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: right there. I think these coaches are going to play
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: more conservative and take their points when the opportunity comes
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: instead of push it, which is good for the kickers
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: and the defenses. If you let up less touchdowns and yeah,
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: less touchdowns, less points are scored and you have the
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: ability to score more points. So ideally overweight on all
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: four and it's easier to leave chunks of money um
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: and then yeah thinking about the game it makes me
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: like it even more so ownership is there but when
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: you are playing them it's easier to leave money or
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: five one builds like when i'm playing i can play
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: boswell steelers defense and just load up and tell myself
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: steelers win 20 to 3 or something and uh and
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: five ones i think that makes a lot of sense
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: when you're playing the defenses.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that call out there for sure. The
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: Steelers D, like Hoop said earlier too, could get steamed
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: even more than Boswell just because I think when you
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: think of it, the thing I think about there is
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: like the Warren factor. And so when Warren's up top,
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: people want to play him. When they're not on that,
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: it's like another way to get access to it. A
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: lot of people like to do the running back DST
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: correlation thing even on showdown. So it's like I just
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: end up seeing that more. And I also think people
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: that go Warren up top, Yes, the 5-1s and the
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: 4-2s where they play for the lower scoring game probably
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: can still put Boswell in, but I think a lot
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: more people tend to go to the quarterback and the
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: defense and stuff like that where it's saying, well, if
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: it's going to be Warren getting me touchdowns is how
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: they think of it, I'm not going to need field goals.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Another thing is we've got to remember next time Chicago
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: is on a slate that Ben Johnson's trying to score
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: 50 a game, so Santos might take a seat for
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: a little bit because.
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: it started a.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: Couple of times. You're like, Oh, maybe he's going to
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: kick this year.
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: Nope, not going to happen. So got to remember stuff
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: like that.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: The only other thing that I thought about the, maybe
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: we mentioned it throughout a couple of times, but just
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: not heavily.
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: I saw it in the chat throughout was about like the, um,
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: the Joey Porter jr.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: Trade. Right. So, uh, you know, get, get, um, that
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: news out there, the Cowboys pick up another, another piece,
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: but I think they showed it yesterday. It was like, uh,
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: what is it?
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: Pickens Porter jr.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: And like one of their, like one of their tackles
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: or something like that. They've just basically grabbed all the
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: guys off the Steelers. So the Cowboys continue to pick
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: up the Steelers pieces, but anything on that from you title,
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: any final thoughts on this slate from you?
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Uh, no, he's been solid Joey Porter and the PFF stuff. I,
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, the Cowboys just need anyone. Like you said, what,
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: 12 seconds left and you allow a 28-yard completion to
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: set up a field goal? I'd be finding four new
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: guys to play DB and try them all out because
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: that team is struggling in the secondary.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, someone said it right away. He's a clown, good riddance.
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: All right, anything else on this slate title from you?
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: Anything else you want to add?
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: No, just looking at FanDuel, Hoop always does it quick. But,
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, Jalen Warren is the third highest price with
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: the highest projection. So it's naturally him. And then the
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks always get more ownership at MVP. But Warren first, Watson, Rogers,
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: if you're playing any MVP but them, I think that's
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: definitely contrarian. Hoop can take it from there.
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, a couple wild prices. Roman Wilson, $ 8, 400. $ 8, 400. 8,400
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: for Roman Wilson. That definitely is an outlier price. On
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: the other end, Concepcion, 5,800. So a little cheaper there.
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: So you're getting a bargain. Butkins over 10K.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Woo-hoo. Oh, that's a lot. I will say.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: I will say.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: One positive, right? I'm going to come full circle on Butkins.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: All right. I'm going to give him a compliment. He
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: had never heard it before, besides the one week last
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: year where he went off. His game fits FanDuel scoring better.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: All right? All right? I think, yeah.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: Is that a compliment? will probably be higher.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: Because of that.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he is getting a lot of ownership. Not a
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: click for me. If you are interested, his game does
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: fit FanDuel scoring better. much better.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: So we talk about all the time, man, going into
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: the dog pound. I don't care if you're wearing Rogers
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: or not. It's like, it doesn't matter. Like you see
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: all kinds of great quarterbacks go in there and you
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: can have struggles.
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: So it could be a thing. If that's the case.
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: And this game just flips, you can make it, you know,
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: two and a half minute and make the, make the
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: Browns win by three instead of what the spread says,
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: the sealers by three on median. And on paper, I'm
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: just saying with spreads, but it's like, if you do that,
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: it would change things up a little bit. Doesn't change that.
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: Warren's still going to be a workhorse and get the usage,
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: but that is the thing. Whoop. A hoop is a
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: full circle, so you're always bound to come around on
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: anything that we talk about, but that's a good one.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: Not click a game.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: I'm saying if you're into that sort of thing, you know,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: that's the argument for him.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: We need to get those hoops up behind you. Where
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: are those hoops at?
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: Actually, they might still be back there.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: Let's do a check. Someone said, coming in late is
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: agreeing with title.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: He obviously wasn't here off the top.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: He says, Warren's kind of like Bijan. See?
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: Full circle. Talk about it. Set it from the top.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: Now we're ending in that way.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: It's fine.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: Like if you're playing tonight and you got 40% Warren
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: and run it, just go with it.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: If, especially if you like them. But if you're just
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: getting that, like, again, the projections are going to push
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: that anyway. Like if you're playing with an optimizer, let's
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: say you're using saber SIM and you're using saber score
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: and you've got portfolio diversification turned on and all of that.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, you're just probably getting that because the projections
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: are going to push it that way. It makes sense.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: I'd be looking to think about more. you know, what
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: you're doing with the rest of your lineups.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: And then also I would talk, I talk about this
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: all the time, but I would investigate what those lineups
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: actually look like. And that's where I spend a lot
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: more of my time. It's like, if every single lineup
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: has Warren Watson, Rogers met calf and a couple of punts,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: it's like, if that wins tonight, congrats to you. It's
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: like very rare that I'll ever even be, possible to
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: win on a slate like that but it's like again
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: i think that would be a massive massive chop so
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: um that'd be the problem there for that but hoop
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: anything else you want to add man any final thoughts
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: from you.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: No i mean the only thing i'll say like these
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: games people just assume it's going to be a nasty
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: grinded out sort of game and it might be but
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: i don't know it was a couple years there might
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: have been these same two teams i know it was
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: the steelers and someone else like the lowest was it
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: the bang? It was like the lowest total. It was
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: like a 30 total or something on a Thursday night. And, uh,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: it might've been two. It was definitely a Thursday night game.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: It was maybe not that one.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Then it was like the lowest total in the last
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: X amount of years. And they ended up scoring a
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: shit ton of points. So it can definitely happen. Um,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: but you know, build your teams accordingly, how you think
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: this game's going to go, especially if you're, you're hand building. Um, but, uh, yeah,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: week four is here and, you know, excited to, to
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: get it going.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: Was this, this is a, What Nguyen said earlier is
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: that last year, Flacco started that game and it nuked 34-31.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it had a total of like 30. It was
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: like the lowest total in 29 or something. It was
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: insanely low total and they just immediately got to scoring
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: right out of the gate.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: I think it was a different, that one did happen,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: but I feel like it was like a backup on
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: the other side that actually scored points early.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: Fire moves 2% on, got two touchdowns. That's what I'm,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's when you want that to happen tonight.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: We've got them right around 2% in the captain. So
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: if that's your spot, one thing about those lineups that
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: I always talk about is just, you gotta be thinking
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: about the rest of the build because the fire moves
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: lineup that fits perfectly is the one that's also duped.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: So people say, yeah, but he's only, I got the,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: I got him at 2% captain. It's like, but all
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: the lineups are identical. It's like, there, there is a
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: balance of what you're doing there with that.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: So, Shout out to Marie Don easy, man.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: Says hoop title. Tam always been around for years in the,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: in the YouTube chat streets. Always appreciate you, man. This too.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: We can end on this.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: I think we're done. So whoever wants to stick around, Ken,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: we're just going to shoot the shit now, but man, the,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: the left bell one, was that real? He said, man,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: we were out there trying to win super bowls and
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: building cities. And then somebody posted the stats and it
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: was like the first year he won a super bowl.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: They were in the playoffs, seven playoff wins or something.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden after that, It's all downhill.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: It is just so funny to look back and it's like,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: they never changed anything. They had like the same team
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: forever and nothing ever changed. And they're just the most
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: mediocre team.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I got my Superbowl. Let's let's move on to
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: the next thing.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: Oh man. That's hilarious. All right, here they go. What
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: are the game snacks tonight?
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: Game snacks.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah. We're bringing food takes back. They know it's the
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: end of the show and they're sticking.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: Around and they're leaving.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: They don't care.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: No, you got to be more specific. Like, are you
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: going with this or you're not? Like, I mean, for
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: me personally, I don't know. I mean, probably eating leftover,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: whatever leftovers are in the fridge. Our kids, they got
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: sports every night. So we're on the fly. So whatever's available.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: Let's see. What's in there? I think there might be pizza,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: maybe leftover pizza or something. I'm not sure. It's some
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: hockey pucks.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: He's just going downhill, boys.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: He's breaking.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: Football season comes around, breaks the diet.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: Usually it's just like a nice six ounce white chicken
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: breast with a little bit of rice on the side.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, I try to keep it good for lunch.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: I don't eat breakfast as I do the intermediate fasting.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: I eat dinner at 6 p.m. Eastern and then I
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: don't eat lunch until noon. So it's like 18 hours
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: and then I'll eat something decent for lunch. And then
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: I don't really give a shit what I eat for dinner.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: So I'm more flexible with the dinner stuff. But for lunch,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: it's typically like a salad or something like that. But
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: for lunch, I'm more open, like whatever, whatever I eat,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: I eat. So I can't, you can't be perfect like
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: title on this stuff all the way through.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: Title, they said he looks like a pizza rolls guy.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: No, he ain't eating pizza rolls.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: Who said he's doing the intermediate fasting? There's advanced, there's basic,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: and there's intermediate. He's talking about intermittent fasting.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's what it's called?
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: All right, then there it is. We knew what he
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: was saying.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: Advanced levels next. He goes from rookie fasting to intermediate
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: up to advanced.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: I've always said intermediate, so I better crack that. Thank
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: you for pointing that out.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: Making sure of that title.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: What's your, you got any snacks tonight?
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: They said that they think, um, me eating some ketchup,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: Lay's chips, which those are Canadian thing, but not my thing.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: My sister. What about the, uh, everything chips? You like
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: those things? They kind of have everything in there. It's
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: a pop.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: They're called all dressed.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: Those are good chips. You got to get ruffles all
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: dressed or where it's at.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Those are, those are good chips. So titles like
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: this is like a foreign language for having like chips.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: What are you? Yeah. We don't, we don't put them
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: in our house. Cause yeah, it'd be eight. So yeah, no,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: we don't keep that in there. Trail mix. I think
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: it's the snack we have. I'll make the wife's out
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: of town though. So I've been at the casino and
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: then eating out a little bit. So I, I think
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: I'm going to make beef ball gogi tonight with some rice.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: With the wife gone, you're grinding the poker. There's no
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: way you're sticking to your super healthy diet.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: But at the casino, I can get a medium rare
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: steak with a loaded baked potato. They got good food.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: An omelet, that's usually what I get at the casino.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: So I'm still picking my spots.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah it's always been interesting to me when you're sitting
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: around like a cash game and buddy just has an
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: omelet roll up and he said i know you got
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: to eat and you can't leave your table but it's
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: like somebody else is there being like this stanking ass
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: egg omelet and i'm sitting there trying to play my
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: aces and this guy's over here chowing down with some
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: omelet breath and all this other stuff.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: Over there it's all part of the the leveling get.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: Them tilted get them tilted yeah exactly yeah a little
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: edge yeah for.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: Sure Oh, man.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: Well, this was a good one, guys. Appreciate you. Going
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: to get back to it. Let's have a good night tonight.
• 1:06:53
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