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- 0:24Good afternoon, everybody.
- 0:25How's it going out there?
- 0:26I trust, I trust you're doing well.
- 0:29You guys doing well in here?
- 0:31Is everybody happy?
- 0:33That's the question.
- 0:34Because look, according to Aristotle, I mean, happiness is the thing.
- 0:38It's what we're all striving for.
- 0:41But also Aristotle wouldn't have defined happiness the way we are defining it today.
- 0:49I'm not talking about you guys here in the room or even the listening audience.
- 0:53No, I'm I'm I'm not talking about you.
- 0:57I'm talking about everybody else, everybody else who's not you, where happiness is defined as you know what they got for the day, or it's it is measured by how we feel.
- 1:12It's measured by an emotion.
- 1:15No, not to Aristotle.
- 1:17He believed happiness was a work of the soul.
- 1:21He believed happiness was measured by the amount of virtue that we that we were striving for.
- 1:28Benjamin Franklin believed this also in performing his experiments, his 13-week experiment, which just repeated every 13 weeks, where he would explore a different virtue every week.
- 1:44He would try to master it.
- 1:46He would try to get it down.
- 1:47That to him made him happy.
- 1:50And he believed that that was indeed the pursuit of happiness.
- 1:57And it really casts a different light on the Declaration of Independence, where Thomas Jefferson says we are endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights.
- 2:10And among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, or what the founding fathers understood to mean the pursuit of virtue.
- 2:22Because this is the name of the game, friends.
- 2:25It is.
- 5:27We're still there.
- 5:29We are still, we are still in it.
- 5:32And a lot of a lot of the cave can be can be found on the internet.
- 5:42A lot of the cape can be found on social media.
- 5:54Especially for young people, the problems are huge.
- 6:00They're myriad because young people scroll the internet and they see what other young people are doing and what their friends are doing.
- 6:09And then they start feeling like uh that's reality.
- 6:17And I'm not, I don't have that.
- 6:19I'm not I'm not living in that.
- 6:21I I don't have I don't have all that.
- 6:24I'm not having that much fun.
- 6:26Look at all the fun they're having.
- 6:28Look at they're all smiling in this photo.
- 6:31As if those smiles are perpetual.
- 6:35I'm not smiling like that.
- 6:37I'm not having this much fun.
- 6:39And when that comparison sets in, and we we come to this conclusion, false as it may be, that we're not having as much fun as those guys are, then the result of that is sheer utter depression.
- 6:58Oh, woe is me.
- 7:00I am not as talented as they are.
- 7:04I'm not as good looking as they are.
- 7:06I'm not as fun as they are.
- 7:08I don't have as many friends as they have.
- 7:12And it becomes this doom cycle.
- 7:16It's called it's it's called dooms doom scrolling for a reason.
- 7:22Because the further you scroll, the further you fall into doom.
- 7:26The further you fall into despondency, the further you fall into depression, the further you fall into the depths of despair.
- 7:36Wow, the alliterations just keep coming.
- 7:38I don't even have this written down.
- 7:39It's just flowing out of me naturally, feeling very poetic.
- 7:46So what are we to do?
- 7:48What are we to do?
- 7:50We are to break the surface, allow our eyes to adjust to the light of the truth or the truth of the light, either way, and rush back down into the cave and rescue as many poor tired souls as humanly possible.
- 8:05Break from the the change of the chains of despondency as many human beings as possible, the chains of complacency, the chains of comfort, as it were, as many human souls as humanly possible.
- 8:25So that's where we're at.
- 8:28And this that there's an attempt at this, but a U.S.
- 8:34judge, a federal judge here, has blocked enforcement of the state of Virginia's measure to mandate age checks and time restrictions for miners on social media.
- 8:47Do you think this is a good thing?
- 8:49Do you think that we should have laws that would prohibit minors uh from accessing social media for a particular period of time?
- 9:05And I guess let me ask it this way.
- 9:09Should we put age limits on social media?
- 9:13In the same way that we have placed age limits on driving, in the same way we've placed age limits on drinking, in the same way we've placed age limits on purchasing a gun.
- 9:28Should we treat social media in that same fashion?
- 9:33There is a growing body of evidence that says yes, we should be treating social media in this same fashion because social media has proven to become detrimental to the soul.
- 9:48I think we have we've we've documented this.
- 9:53And there is this push, by the way, at least here in Virginia.
- 10:01That social media would be limited, that it would be limited by age and that it would be limited by time.
- 10:11But if but a federal judge here just last week barred the Virginia law, which of course was aimed at lowering rates of social media addiction among kids by requiring age verification for all users and permitting daily access for those under 16 for only one hour per platform.
- 10:34I know what you're thinking here.
- 10:36You're thinking, well, who's to stop the kid from fudging on the on the age uh requirement?
- 10:47Um okay, but that's a good question.
- 10:50Pause it, hold it.
- 10:53The this federal ruling here by this judge has put a pause on the state of Virginia's uh restrictions here on how citizens access social media.
- 11:07The case is net choice v Mieris.
- 11:10And while this case is moving to the courts, the judge has paused the restrictions.
- 11:20Judge Patricia Tolliver Giles, maybe Giles, I don't know.
- 11:26Uh Judge Patricia Tolliver Giles is uh sits on the uh Eastern District of Virginia, the U.S.
- 11:35District Court.
- 11:37Uh she said that the measure likely violates the First Amendment free speech protections for minors and adults.
- 11:45So uh I think I don't know, this is interesting.
- 11:50This is uh does it violate the free speech right of minors.
- 11:58Do minors have a an ultimate right of free speech.
- 12:04I mean, the keyword is ultimate.
- 12:07Should there's free speech be uh controlled by by by parental authority?
- 12:16Governor Glenn Youncin here signed the law in May of 2025, last May, and then it went into effect January 1st of this year.
- 12:26NetChoice filed the lawsuit.
- 12:29It's a trade group representing technology companies such as Google, Meta, Netflix, Reddit, X, yada yada.
- 12:37Uh Giles said the law went too far by requiring everyone, including adults to verify their ages before accessing speech that is protected for everyone.
- 12:50She also said it didn't go far enough by exempting addictive interactive gaming from coverage.
- 12:59Uh here is her here's what she wrote here.
- 13:04The issues in this matter are not to be taken lightly.
- 13:07The court recognizes the commonwealth's compelling interest in protecting its youth from the harms associated with the addictive aspects of social media.
- 13:18However, it cannot infringe on First Amendment rights, including those of the same youth it aims to protect.
- 13:25She also said the law treats functionally equivalent speech differently as minors defined as those under 16 would be prohibited from watching history, science, religious service videos that are more than an hour long on YouTube, but they could access the same or similar content on streaming platforms.
- 13:47That's a good point.
- 13:50She raises a good point.
- 13:52Virginia in their defense argued that the measure was a reasonable response to youth mental health issues tied to the addictive features of social media.
- 14:03Paul Taskey is the co-director of Net Choice as Litigation Center.
- 14:08In a statement, Paul said that the ruling upholds parental authority over government mandates.
- 14:15He said fundamentally, parents must stay in the driver's seat when it comes to decisions about their families.
- 14:22This ruling reaffirms that the government cannot ration access to lawful speech, even if it has noble intentions.
- 14:31That is also a uh it's also a good point.
- 14:36Taske added that unconstitutional laws do not help anyone.
- 14:41He said, moreover, laws requiring age verification and other privacy invasive measures actually make everyone less safe and more prone to data breaches.
- 14:52We are seeing this in real time as countries around the world have started mandating similar privacy destroying age verification regimes.
- 15:01I guess this leads us back to the question you know, couldn't they just fudge the data?
- 15:07Why not just fudge the data?
- 15:08I don't know that.
- 15:10I don't know that having a law that places age restriction uh boundaries and and guide rails.
- 15:20I don't know.
- 15:21I don't know that that's the answer here.
- 15:23I get the purpose behind it.
- 15:26I understand the intent, but I'm undecided as to uh if this is a good approach, really.
- 15:36The injunction halts enforcement ahead of a full trial.
- 15:40Virginia could ultimately appeal the decision, of course, to the Fourth Circuit.
- 15:45Virginia's law was one of many state initiatives in the wake of the U.S.
- 15:49Supreme Court's 24 decision, affirming platforms' editorial rights.
- 15:55Uh, and also here we're in the throes of this ongoing case, wherein the charges are being leveled against social media companies that their product is addictive.
- 16:11They know it's addictive, they have known for a long time that it's addictive, and they've doubled down on that addiction.
- 16:21Uh so we're here, my friends.
- 16:23We are here.
- 16:24We are in the throes of the cave.
- 16:27And we are we are staring down that rabbit hole.
- 16:31We are chained to the wall, and we're looking at the shadows dancing through the flickering flame light on the wall in front of us, and we're mesmerized by what we think is reality.
- 16:44This is the ultimately, this is the effect of social media.
- 16:48Now, it's not all.
- 16:50It's not all the effect of so it's not 100% of social media.
- 16:55Just like what was happening in that cave is not 100% of the flame being flickered on the wall.
- 17:01I mean, there is some truth in social media.
- 17:06As the judge said, this law would restrict students from watching religious services on YouTube that are over an hour long, or watching educational videos, or watching uh scientific experiments.
- 17:19I mean, there is a ton of things happening on the internet that are truthful.
- 17:26But the dilemma comes in on the opposite side of things.
- 17:30And that's what I've previously explained.
- 17:34The doom scrolling, the comparing of young adolescent minds to others uh and the images that are that they are the images that are being portrayed on social media that is causing others to falter, causing others to deem it as reality when it's not so.
- 17:59So, what's the answer here?
- 18:00The answer ultimately, my friends, is for those of us that have escaped the surface of the cave to come back down, to come back down and to grab as many citizens as possible.
- 18:13Now, there's a couple different ways we could do this.
- 18:16We could tell them, hey, the internet isn't as it's a no good place, you should leave it at once.
- 18:23And that's probably not realistic, although I do have a piece here uh that I do want to get into that is talking about millions, millions are vacating social media in droves.
- 18:37It is a quiet exodus, and I am going to get into that on the other side of this break.
- 18:43But I think ultimately a better approach would be to educate them, to educate, especially young people, letting them know what is reality and what isn't.
- 18:55Look, the shadows being cast on the wall in front of you from a flickering flame behind you.
- 19:03That's not reality.
- 19:05That is that's the best message that we could possibly deliver to kids these days is let's decide, let's go after truth.
- 19:15Let's pursue reality, and let's pursue it through the filter of truth.
- 19:20Truth, goodness, and beauty.
- 19:22This is what we're after.
- 19:24And of course, this is the point of a classical education.
- 19:28An education that uh you're not going to find everywhere.
- 19:34You're only going to find it in a few places.
- 19:37And it's those places that you need to be looking for.
- 19:40Those places.
- 19:41If you want an education for your child, if you're not homeschooling, get them in a classical education.
- 19:47I'm telling you, it will be the absolute best for them.
- 19:52They won't, uh, they will not regret it.
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- 24:22All right, you know what else that uh that we like?
- 24:26We we like history.
- 24:27We do, we like it.
- 24:28We like history class around here.
- 24:31Before I get into this piece uh by uh I don't even know who who wrote this, but it's it's called the silent revolution.
- 24:40Why millions now look to leave social media before I get into that?
- 24:44I want to go to a little history class, just a little mini one, a little mini history class, you know.
- 24:50Uh our history classes around here are of varying lengths and degrees.
- 24:55This would just be classified as a mini, um, a mini history class.
- 25:01Today, my friends, is the anniversary of President Abraham Lincoln, the 16th, one of our favorites.
- 25:10Today's the day he made the fateful decision and fateful in a good way.
- 25:16He decided to promote one Ulysses S Grant to lead the Union armies.
- 25:24He needed a leader.
- 25:26He was tired of squander uh floundering and squandering and and just generally blowing it.
- 25:37He was tired of it.
- 25:38And he needed a man to come in and take this thing over.
- 25:42Today was the day he did it, the day he promoted Ulysses S.
- 25:47Grant.
- 25:47I read this little piece the other day on Grant.
- 25:53That uh, so the anniversary date here.
- 25:56Hang on, hang on, hang on, real quick.
- 25:58I just gotta I gotta make sure I get my gotta make sure my my dates are right.
- 26:03You cannot go into history class and and deliver wrong dates because that's that's paramount to abject failure.
- 26:121864.
- 26:13Yeah, that's the date.
- 26:15That's the day that Abraham Lincoln, March 10th.
- 26:19He made Ulysses S.
- 26:20Grant commander of all the Union armies.
- 26:231864.
- 26:24So I read this piece the other day.
- 26:27You know, just a little article, a little paragraph, actually, that in 1860, just four years earlier, a span of four years between being named commander of the Union armies and and living in abject failure.
- 26:46That was it, just four years.
- 26:49As a 38-year-old in 1860, Grant was struggling to sell firewood on a street corner in St.
- 26:58Louis just to keep his children from starving.
- 27:02Just four years earlier.
- 27:04Uh to his neighbors, he he wasn't anybody of prominence.
- 27:11His neighbors didn't didn't look at him as somebody who was a leader in any way, shape, form, or fashion.
- 27:21Matter of fact, they referred to him as a drunk.
- 27:24They referred to him as a washout, as a failure as a loser.
- 27:29Some of the some of the list here of the things that that Grant had failed at.
- 27:35Uh he failed as a farmer.
- 27:38He uh was horrible uh with the finances.
- 27:42At one point, he was so broke he had to pawn his gold watch to buy Christmas gifts.
- 27:48He lived in a log cabin.
- 27:50And I uh there's something that I I love about this time period and the revolutionary wartime period where they would name their houses.
- 28:01You know, you've got Mount Vernon, you've got Monticello, you've got these glorious, magnificent names.
- 28:08Uh here Grant lived in a log cabin, and he he gave it a name, but it wasn't something magnanimous.
- 28:16Uh, you know, Mount Vernon was named after this commander, Commander Vernon at Washington revered and respected.
- 28:27Uh but Grant named his log cabin hard scrabble.
- 28:32Hard scrabble.
- 28:34Uh, because that's how he viewed himself.
- 28:38That everything was just a hard scrabble.
- 28:41Life was tough.
- 28:42Life was hard.
- 28:42I'm out here trying to sell firewood to keep my family from starving.
- 28:47My my farm has failed.
- 28:49I mean, he had some success as a soldier during the Mexican-American War, but those days were done.
- 28:56And now what was he gonna do?
- 28:58He was just out here out here trying to make ends meet.
- 29:03But then the civil war erupted.
- 29:06And this soldier decided that you know he could make a go of it again.
- 29:15Uh and you know, while while others were fueled by fear, Grant Grant uh, or I'm sorry, while others were paralyzed by fear, Grant was fueled by it.
- 29:25It didn't get in his way.
- 29:29He didn't make excuses.
- 29:31Instead, he made moves.
- 29:34He didn't ask for permission.
- 29:36Instead, this is the man who demanded unconditional surrender on more than one occasion.
- 29:43He's the man who couldn't sell firewood to save his family, but he ended up saving his country.
- 29:52And then was rewarded by serving two terms as its president.
- 29:58So what do we what do we learn?
- 30:00About about Grant in just this little segment of time, this little window from 1860 to this date in 1864 when he's named the commander of the Union Armies.
- 30:14We learn that winners don't look at their past.
- 30:18They only look at the present and the next objective.
- 30:23They look forward, looking always forward, as it were.
- 30:30Looking always forward.
- 30:32Latin.
- 30:32The Latin term, by the way, for looking always forward.
- 30:37I pulled this up the other day.
- 30:40And nope, that's not it.
- 30:42Virtuse Vincent Omniet.
- 30:44No, that's Virtue Conquers all.
- 30:47That is not the Latin for looking always forward.
- 30:51And I uh I set myself to memorizing it.
- 30:56And obviously, you can see how successful that was.
- 31:00Because I don't remember it.
- 31:04But I just I just loved it.
- 31:06I loved the way it sounded.
- 31:08I fugit irreparable tempest.
- 31:11No, that wasn't it.
- 31:13Although this is a good one.
- 31:14This is fast flies the irreparable hour.
- 31:18I do love that one.
- 31:19That is not that is not looking always looking always forward.
- 31:24And so as I as I come across these phrases in Latin, I will um I'll save them and I'll put them in this folder.
- 31:32But I apparently, apparently I didn't save looking always forward.
- 31:37Well, somebody remind me to look that up, please, and then to save it.
- 31:41Uh, because this is the undisclosed motto here of General Grant is somebody who looks always forward.
- 31:53Uh Semper is in it.
- 31:55Semper because Semper is always Semper Fidelis, the this the model for the Marines is always faithful.
- 32:03Uh Semper, I think it's Semper Poro, looking always forward, but uh don't quote me.
- 32:09Do not because I didn't apparently I didn't save it.
- 32:12I will look it up though.
- 32:13Yes, I will look it up and I will tell you.
- 32:16And this is the beauty here of history class.
- 32:18Not only do we learn about American history, but we learn about character traits and values and what it takes to what it takes to move forward, what it takes to get out of the cave and open up our eyes to the glorious truth of the sunlight.
- 32:38And it takes something, by the way.
- 32:41It takes a particular individual.
- 32:44And by studying history, we we learn about those individuals, and we learn about their makeup, and we gain motivation to move forward.
- 32:53We gain inspiration to move forward.
- 32:55It's the most beautiful thing about history class is gaining the motivation and the inspiration to move forward and to accomplish something in your life.
- 33:05That should be the objective to spend your life accomplishing something, something for the good, something that's beautiful, something that's that's layered and founded in truth.
- 33:18This, my friends, this is the objective.
- 33:20This is what we're after here.
- 33:22And it's you know, people say, What's the purpose?
- 33:25Why am I alive?
- 33:27That is the purpose to go after truth and goodness and beauty, to live this life to your fullest to the fullest extent.
- 33:35And some people in doing that, they're they're they're coming to this conclusion that they're better served by leaving social media.
- 33:46They're better served by just cutting ties by just uh by just bailing.
- 33:52And it's happening slowly, it's happening quietly.
- 33:56There's no hashtag to it.
- 33:58There's no influencer out there promoting it.
- 34:01There's no algorithm that is um showing people, you know, when to post and what to post and when not to post, because the point is people aren't posting.
- 34:14It's we're watching a silent revolution.
- 34:17It's not being televised, it's not being live streamed, it's not being posted about.
- 34:22People are just quietly leaving social media.
- 34:27Now, the other day I talked about this 30-day experiment experiment that Lawrence William put out where he put his his smartphone down for 30 days.
- 34:37He just wanted to see if he could do without it, because in his opinion, his attention was no longer his own.
- 34:44He was just too distracted.
- 34:45He was checking several apps, checking several emails, checking several news sites and sources and YouTube and and whatnot.
- 34:54And he decided that it was too much.
- 34:57He wanted his attention back.
- 35:00He wanted to not be distracted as much.
- 35:03And so he went on this 30 days.
- 35:05At the end of the 30 days, he felt fantastic, but he came to the conclusion that he needed a smartphone in order to live and survive and work and commute and have a life, which is true because so much of our lives are tied to our smartphones.
- 35:23But several people are doing something similar where they're not putting their smartphones in a drawer and leaving them.
- 35:31They're just they're just leaving social media.
- 35:35They're just quietly running the exit.
- 35:39So in 2023, the U.S.
- 35:42Surgeon General issued an advisory, and the uh advisory declared a particular health crisis in the country.
- 35:50And it was one regarding loneliness, and that we were literally in a national health crisis surrounded by loneliness.
- 36:01The report said that almost half of American adults experienced measurable loneliness, not some measure or some degree, but but measurable loneliness, not sadness and not some kind of social inconvenience, but full blown loneliness.
- 36:34And increase your chance of stroke by 32%.
- 36:40Um between 2003 and 2020, uh, we added 24 hours per month to the average time that Americans spend by themselves.
- 36:5524 hours per month, an increase.
- 37:01Uh okay, so every month you're alone.
- 37:05You're in solitary confinement.
- 37:06Now, I mean, for me, when I think about that, I'm like, oh yeah, I would like 24 hours of just, you know, just being alone.
- 37:19Uh I would I would go for that.
- 37:23But at some point, that's gonna get old.
- 37:28At some point, I would think you wouldn't want some human interaction.
- 37:34Uh we are by every official measure that that's available to us, a nation of people who are deeply and structurally becoming more and more disconnected.
- 37:46And it's strange because it's a time where we've never been more connected in in human history, but yet we're disconnected, and something isn't adding up.
- 37:56And it's true that a growing number of us are starting to to see it, and we're gonna, and we're starting to act upon what we're seeing.
- 38:06And and the act is in the exodus every month, according to this report here, nearly two million American users on the internet are searching how to delete or deactivate their major social media accounts.
- 38:22You want to know what the number one account is, people are leaving.
- 38:25No, it's actually not X, it's it would be Instagram.
- 38:30Instagram is the number one searched account.
- 38:33How do I get rid of Instagram?
- 38:35Second is TikTok, and Facebook is number three, and X is number X is fourth.
- 38:41I know I I was surprised by that, just like you.
- 38:45Instagram is number one.
- 38:48Um X is the least social component of all of our social media.
- 38:54Uh, and you know, whereas the others have a profile and a very obvious front-facing social identity aspect.
- 39:01X really doesn't.
- 39:04But that the important thing is that all these digital departures aren't teenagers having a bad week.
- 39:12These are these are people, uh, many of them, while under the age of 25, are out of their teens.
- 39:22And they they've made this decision.
- 39:24They they've looked at the thing that was supposed to connect them, and they've quietly decided that uh this isn't doing what it's promised to do.
- 39:36There isn't a connection here.
- 39:37I'm I'm not connected to anybody or anything.
- 39:40I'm just I'm part of the world wide web, but yet I'm not connected.
- 39:47Uh, in this in this piece here, uh, Johan Harry uh in his book Stolen Focus, Why You Can't Pay Attention and How to Think Deeply Again.
- 40:00This piece uh uh quotes from his book uh stating that it presents an extended investigation into what he calls a global attention crisis in it, he put the attention research plainly.
- 40:16College students in one study could focus on a single task for an average of 65 seconds before switching.
- 40:24Office workers managed about three minutes, and in a Carnegie Mellon experiment, students who received text messages or text message interruptions during a test performed roughly 20% worse than those whose phones were off.
- 40:43But we're not just distracted, we're being cognitive cognitively restructured.
- 40:48That sentence right there caused me to stop.
- 40:52We're not just distracted, we're being cognitive cognitively restructured.
- 40:57Now, distraction was the point of Lawrence Williams' 30-day sabbatical from the smartphone.
- 41:05He was tired of being distracted.
- 41:08He was tired of his attention being commandeered.
- 41:12But this piece is suggesting that it's not just mere distraction, it's a cognitive restructuring.
- 41:20And uh that caused me to pause.
- 41:23And so I'm gonna pause here because we're we're up against the break, but I want to pick up this idea of cognitive restructuring on on the other side when we come out of this out of this commercial break because I think I've got a I got a sneaky feeling you are as intrigued about it as I am.
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- 45:01All right, my friends, let's let's get back to this uh this piece out of the epoch times.
- 45:09Uh the piece is called Silent Revolution, why millions now look to leave social media.
- 45:16And we ended that the end of the of the second segment there with this statement that people are leaving social media not just because it's distracting us, but we are being cognitively restructured.
- 45:32And it's true, and we we've talked about that here.
- 45:36We've talked about the cognitive restructuring that that's happening within us internally.
- 45:43And it's so um, it's so surreptitious, we don't even realize it's going on.
- 45:50Uh and this piece describes it this way that people aren't leaving social media uh because they're fleeing from something uh abstract.
- 46:01Instead, they're running towards something that they can feel with some type of urgency.
- 46:07Uh and that something is the need to be present.
- 46:11It's it's the need to think clearly.
- 46:15Umport called it digital minimalism.
- 46:20It's this idea that technology should serve our values, not the other way around.
- 46:25We shouldn't be servants to technology.
- 46:28It should serve us, but but it should serve our values, it should serve our virtues.
- 46:34Jenny Odell took it a step further in how to do nothing by arguing that reclaiming attention means turning toward local life, toward ecology, toward the people physically in front of you.
- 46:52Um, she says, I I had to Google what what ecology was.
- 46:57And she said, ecology is the scientific study of of how living organisms interact with each other and their environment.
- 47:05And it sounds like we need more of that, as our environment uh is becoming extremely digital, and we need more solutions to our our newfound situation.
- 47:2046% of Gen Z now say they are actively taking steps to limit their screen time.
- 47:27And it's not a trend, by the way.
- 47:29It's a generation that has that has come to a conclusion and they're making a choice.
- 47:35We are we are seeing the research.
- 47:37We are seeing uh the studies come out of this, and Gen Z or Gen Z is making this this conclusion here that it's time to go, but the exodus from screens is really only half of the story.
- 47:53The other half is geographic.
- 47:57Since 2020, two-thirds of all population growth among Americans, age 25 to 44, has occurred in in small towns and rural communities, which is reversing a decade-long pattern in which some 90% of that same demographic flowed into the larger cities.
- 48:19So, what's going on here?
- 48:21Not only are people exiting social media, but they're exiting the large downtowns.
- 48:30The University of Virginia's Cooper Center called it the highest rate of young adult migration to small towns in nearly a century.
- 48:39And the USDA can confirmed it.
- 48:52And here we are in 2026, and those numbers are holding.
- 49:02Near zero.
- 49:24And we're looking at a rural domestic migration.
- 49:28People are moving, and it's not happening in these enormous waves.
- 49:32It's it's happening quietly, deliberately, and they're moving towards smaller places with slower rhythms because they want more room to breathe.
- 49:42And many of them are homesteading.
- 49:45Listen to these numbers.
- 49:46Between 180,000 and 750,000 U.S.
- 49:51households, these the these numbers between 180 and 100 and 750,000, they're now living off.
- 50:00The grid to varying degrees.
- 50:02They're generating their own power.
- 50:04They're growing their own food.
- 50:05They're managing their own water.
- 50:08A poll conducted in 2023 found that nearly 4,000 members of homesteaders of America found that over a quarter had begun within the previous three years.
- 50:21So since 2020, a quarter of them, 25% of them have decided that, you know what, we're going to homestead.
- 50:29We're getting off the grid.
- 50:32These are not people who grew up on farms.
- 50:35They're millennials and their younger adults who looked at the system they inherited, the speed of it, the noise of it, the fact that everything is mediated by a screen.
- 50:47And they've chosen to build something different.
- 50:50They want something else.
- 50:51They want something, something more for their life.
- 50:57Um this piece, the author says that there's a word for it, but that word isn't necessarily rebellion.
- 51:04We're not in rebellion here.
- 51:07Rob Dreyer called it the Benedict option, named after Saint Benedict, who in the fifth century, as the Roman Empire fractured around him.
- 51:18He didn't fight the chaos.
- 51:20Instead, he built monasteries, monasteries of small intentional communities where people could live by their own slower paced rhythm and practice and presence.
- 51:34They were insulated enough from the surrounding disorder to actually function as living, breathing human beings again.
- 51:46We've heard dozens of millennial aged uh individuals share a vision for this same kind of thing, you know, living off the grid in a customized community.
- 51:55Uh Cindy and I have talked about it.
- 51:57You know, we've we've talked to our own kids and said, hey, why don't we just let's just go grab some land somewhere and let's homestead it.
- 52:05Uh and let's just, you know, let's just have a community.
- 52:09Uh it is a it's a tighter social net with with spiritual protocols.
- 52:16It's something that you can't find in the big city.
- 52:21The writer of this piece says, I don't think Dre's point to to calling it the Benedict option was that the world should be abandoned.
- 52:30It was more that the world cannot be saved from the outside until someone first builds the inside, meaning you can't pour from an empty vessel.
- 52:40You've got to have something on the inside before you can build the outside.
- 52:46You can't restore what you you haven't first preserved.
- 52:50This isn't a top-down approach, it's a ground up, or as the author of this piece calls it, a roots to clouds approach.
- 52:59Political scientist James C.
- 53:01Scott wrote about what he called weapons of the week.
- 53:05These would be the quiet, unglamorous ways that people throughout history have resisted systems that threaten to swallow them up, not through big ornate protests that demand attention, but rather through a subtle nuanced revolution that retracts from the large popular group herd pattern of the moment that that group herd mentality.
- 53:29And so through practice and through showing up and through doing small and visible things.
- 53:36These the the way of going about this is what's keeping the larger things alive and breathing.
- 53:44And we would refer to homesteading as one of these weapons, a weapon of the week.
- 53:50Deleting your Instagram account might be a weapon of the week.
- 53:56And by week, I'm not talking about a day of the week.
- 53:58I'm talking about strength.
- 54:00It's it's going against conventional wisdom.
- 54:03I mean, it's not weak, but it's what conventional wisdom would call the weapon of the week.
- 54:09Moving to a town of about 3,000 people and then starting a garden might be considered a weapon of the week.
- 54:17Choosing not to join in on an uh on an argument online might be considered a weapon of the week.
- 54:26None of it makes headlines, but all of it is working.
- 54:31So the next time you post something and someone comes at you and says, Oh, Rob, Rob, you're wrong, you're a racist, you're whatever.
- 54:39Uh just ignore and move on.
- 54:42Just ignore and move on.
- 54:43That's what I do.
- 54:44I don't personally, I don't engage.
- 54:47I and I I've had it's doesn't happen often, but I'll I'll post something on Substack in the Notes app and someone will get on and they'll just I just move on.
- 55:00I I'm not going to debate a buffoon, especially in public.
- 55:05It just isn't gonna happen.
- 55:07We're not gonna do it.
- 55:09Um there is there's so much more to this piece that I would love to get into, but time is not permitting me today.
- 55:16Man, I can't believe how fast time flies when you're out here having a blast.
- 55:22Look, the bottom line is that we want to be in positions where our eyes are open to truth, where our eyes are open to goodness and where they're open to beauty.
- 55:34And if if being part of the of the social media exodus is going to aid that cause, if it's gonna help get us out of the cave, then by all means, uh let's look at ways to do it.
- 55:47Let's let's look at ways that we can that we can make ourselves better.
- 55:52That is the objective here.
- 55:54That's the name of the game.
- 55:55How can we better ourselves and thereby bettering those that are around us?
- 56:01If if we are if we are making steps to better ourselves, then we're making steps to better the world.
- 56:10Then we're making steps to to better our communities and to better those around us and and to go back into the cave and pull as many out as we possibly can.
- 56:21All right, we're gonna end how we began today.
- 56:23Let's go down into the cave and let's bring as many to the surface to have their eyes exposed to the sunlight, as many as humanly possible.
- 56:33All right, my friends, that's the objective here.
- 56:35That's what we're after.
- 56:36And if it's your objective, feel free.
- 56:38Share the good news, share the the good news of this program, encourage your friends and family to get on the dean's list.
- 56:46Let's unite to renovate the age.