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- 1:00Speaker 1: high school football road Tour continues as it's Mavericksdale on
- 1:03Speaker 1: your radio. Michael Washington. He is the defensive coordinator here
- 1:06Speaker 1: for the mavericks This is year number six. He is
- 1:09Speaker 1: sitting to my left. We appreciate his time today. Coach Washington,
- 1:12Speaker 1: how are you.
- 1:13Speaker 2: I'm good man, I'm glad to be here.
- 1:14Speaker 1: Appreciate your time. You said you grew up a military guy,
- 1:18Speaker 1: played some football or played a lot of football at
- 1:20Speaker 1: West Lauderdale before some college football here in the state.
- 1:23Speaker 1: I'll tell you, you know that Lauderdale County area. And
- 1:26Speaker 1: I've always said this, when you take the state of
- 1:28Speaker 1: Mississippi and you break it up, you could do it
- 1:31Speaker 1: about five different states, right, because the coast is different
- 1:34Speaker 1: than Hattiesburg and the Pine Belt. The Lauderdale area is
- 1:37Speaker 1: different than North Mississippi. But there's some good football over
- 1:39Speaker 1: there Lauderdaleay, that is true.
- 1:41Speaker 2: That is true.
- 1:42Speaker 4: It's hard nose over there, right, So you know they're
- 1:44Speaker 4: blue collar over there in Lauderdale County. And when growing up,
- 1:48Speaker 4: it was just more of you get there and you
- 1:50Speaker 4: grind every single day, right, Nothing flashy, nothing pretty.
- 1:53Speaker 2: It was hard noseball.
- 1:54Speaker 1: So speaking of hard noseball, you guys are doing it
- 1:56Speaker 1: here at Germantown. I'm always blown away. The facility look amazing,
- 2:01Speaker 1: you know, Germantown. It's hard to believe fifteen seasons is
- 2:04Speaker 1: all that's played right here, and it feels like Germantown's
- 2:07Speaker 1: been here forever. One of the better projects here. And
- 2:10Speaker 1: when I say projects, I'm talking about bringing new school together,
- 2:13Speaker 1: putting everything together. Administration talk a little bit about that.
- 2:16Speaker 1: You've been here almost half that time now, right, six years,
- 2:19Speaker 1: watching it grow and being a part of that.
- 2:21Speaker 2: It's been outstanding.
- 2:22Speaker 4: From Coach Perry who just retired, he did a great
- 2:25Speaker 4: job of loving on our athletics and our coaches, and
- 2:28Speaker 4: Coach Mitchell's just continuing that now he's the ad here
- 2:30Speaker 4: and our booster club.
- 2:32Speaker 2: They take really good care of us.
- 2:33Speaker 4: We just got a new weight room and just the
- 2:36Speaker 4: materials and the things that they give the kids. We're
- 2:39Speaker 4: a seven A program, right, so we're gonna look like
- 2:41Speaker 4: we're a seven A program.
- 2:42Speaker 2: We want to be top notch.
- 2:43Speaker 4: We want to be top tier and we tell the
- 2:45Speaker 4: kids that all the time, like they're really really blessed.
- 2:47Speaker 4: They take care of us here. And just watching everything
- 2:50Speaker 4: develop and grow in the six years that I've been
- 2:51Speaker 4: here has been phenomenal.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Yeah, you know Coach Mitchell, who will have on before
- 2:55Speaker 1: we get to the end of the program. And when
- 2:58Speaker 1: I say Coach Mitchell talking about the staff, come through
- 3:01Speaker 1: the weight room earlier, a beautiful weight room. I believe
- 3:03Speaker 1: you guys. I was told switch to Nike this year
- 3:05Speaker 1: we did. Uh so, uh, you know the Nike apparel.
- 3:09Speaker 1: Now the field, I mean it is a I mean
- 3:11Speaker 1: you can go around the state. You're not going to
- 3:13Speaker 1: find a better group of facilities. And what you guys
- 3:15Speaker 1: are doing the right here.
- 3:16Speaker 4: Absolutely, absolutely when coach Mitchell toldas we were switching the Nike,
- 3:20Speaker 4: you could have told the kids' face. Coaches were excited,
- 3:22Speaker 4: everybody was excited. But we're just we're just excited for
- 3:26Speaker 4: the kids and ready to see them play and ready
- 3:28Speaker 4: to get some action.
- 3:30Speaker 1: We're rising with the coach Michael Washington, he is the
- 3:32Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Here for the Germantown Mavericks Tuesday edition of
- 3:35Speaker 1: the program. Right, let's talk a little football.
- 3:37Speaker 2: You guys.
- 3:38Speaker 1: You know, a good year last year playing what I
- 3:40Speaker 1: consider you know, I've always said for the last ten years,
- 3:43Speaker 1: prior to last year, two years Region three seven A
- 3:46Speaker 1: formerly six A was the toughest. Now I think it's
- 3:48Speaker 1: where you guys sit and reside with. Absolutely Oxford formerly
- 3:52Speaker 1: two below. You know, Tuopelau moves to one seven A
- 3:55Speaker 1: last year, but Oxford, you guys, Madison Central, Clinton Murra's
- 3:58Speaker 1: back in seven A. It is a meat grinder, and
- 4:01Speaker 1: you know, there's gonna be odds. Are a good team
- 4:05Speaker 1: misses the playoffs out of this region.
- 4:07Speaker 2: Absolutely.
- 4:08Speaker 4: You look in the past, you know, Startville, they kind
- 4:10Speaker 4: of was at the bottom and then they wound up
- 4:12Speaker 4: making a run to the state championship. And one of
- 4:14Speaker 4: the things we tell the kids all the time is, hey,
- 4:16Speaker 4: we're playing hard nose football against great teams every single
- 4:20Speaker 4: Friday night, and you look up and anything could happen.
- 4:24Speaker 4: Just play hard every night. And let's let's see what
- 4:26Speaker 4: we follow at the end of this thing, you.
- 4:27Speaker 2: Know what I mean.
- 4:27Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, if you're starting with yellowjacket, I didn't leave
- 4:30Speaker 1: you off list intentionally. I didn't even get through the list.
- 4:32Speaker 1: I mean with coach Morgan now over at Startful, they're
- 4:35Speaker 1: gonna be a handful as well. Take us through what
- 4:37Speaker 1: you got coming back this year defensively and kind of
- 4:40Speaker 1: you're you know, kind of through the lens of your
- 4:42Speaker 1: eyes how you perceive defense. That's a defensive coordinator.
- 4:45Speaker 4: So we are you're really young this year. We got
- 4:48Speaker 4: some good athletes. We lost about I'm gonna say nine
- 4:51Speaker 4: nine guys. We got a safety coming back and a
- 4:54Speaker 4: cornerback that's Christian Mumford and Salomon Cameron great ball players.
- 4:57Speaker 4: We're really excited that they're back. All of our other
- 4:59Speaker 4: guys and all our other spots where seniors. So we're
- 5:02Speaker 4: in the process now of just kind of we have
- 5:04Speaker 4: the right pieces and putting everybody in the right seat
- 5:06Speaker 4: so we can get that bus in the right direction.
- 5:08Speaker 4: But man, it's simple for us. On defense, it's it
- 5:11Speaker 4: is hard nose. And you hear me saying that a lot,
- 5:14Speaker 4: because that's honestly what I believe when it comes from
- 5:16Speaker 4: a defensive standpoint, it's hard nose tackling, playing with relentless pursuit.
- 5:20Speaker 4: And that's what we teach our guys. It's not anything flashy,
- 5:23Speaker 4: it's not anything complicated. Can we get lined up, can
- 5:26Speaker 4: you do your job, and can you get there with
- 5:28Speaker 4: vil the intentions when you get to the ball. It's
- 5:29Speaker 4: simple for us and that's what we that's what we
- 5:31Speaker 4: try to teach them. So that's kind of how I
- 5:34Speaker 4: see that thing.
- 5:34Speaker 1: You know, I hear a lot of defensive coordinators or
- 5:37Speaker 1: you know, and I know theoretically in theory it would
- 5:41Speaker 1: be great and a lot of a lot of coaches
- 5:43Speaker 1: are doing it. You guys are probably doing some of
- 5:44Speaker 1: this here is where you can line up pre snap,
- 5:46Speaker 1: you move post snap. You do do something different in
- 5:48Speaker 1: the secondary, your coverage is different. Maybe you're doing a twist,
- 5:50Speaker 1: you're doing something fancy up front. But a lot of
- 5:52Speaker 1: coaches are saying, hey, look, we just want our guys
- 5:55Speaker 1: to line up and we don't want to make it
- 5:56Speaker 1: too hard for them. We don't want them to overthink it.
- 5:58Speaker 1: We want to we want to let them play ball.
- 6:00Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely, So that's the deal, right, you want
- 6:02Speaker 4: you want to have a baseline, you want to set
- 6:04Speaker 4: your foundation.
- 6:04Speaker 2: Hey, this is who we are, this is what we do.
- 6:07Speaker 4: Once the kids get really really comfortable with that and
- 6:09Speaker 4: they're confident and they can do it until not. The
- 6:12Speaker 4: way we think about it is it's not until you
- 6:14Speaker 4: can do it right. It's till you can't do it
- 6:16Speaker 4: wrong right. And when you get to that point, now
- 6:18Speaker 4: we can start putting twists and games and disguising coverage
- 6:21Speaker 4: and sending black backers from one side and bailing on
- 6:24Speaker 4: the other side. So there's a foundation to it. So
- 6:26Speaker 4: you have to start somewhere. If you start there, it's
- 6:28Speaker 4: gonna be hard to really figure out where you're good at.
- 6:30Speaker 2: Right.
- 6:31Speaker 4: But when you start with your foundation and know who
- 6:33Speaker 4: you are, and then add the twist and the loops
- 6:35Speaker 4: and all that stuff to the back end. That's when
- 6:37Speaker 4: it starts to get really fun. And watching your kids
- 6:40Speaker 4: just develop and understand what's going on in front of them,
- 6:43Speaker 4: it's it's a beauty.
- 6:44Speaker 1: How hard is it today in twenty twenty six to
- 6:47Speaker 1: teach tackling? You know, because we know, I mean the
- 6:52Speaker 1: National Football League, you know this, they don't take guys
- 6:55Speaker 1: to the ground much. I mean they're not in full
- 6:56Speaker 1: pads a whole lot. They are early in camp. You
- 7:00Speaker 1: guys are in full pads, but it's not like it
- 7:02Speaker 1: used to be. Probably when you played as well. There's
- 7:03Speaker 1: probably a little more contact when you were coming through
- 7:05Speaker 1: West Lauderdale today.
- 7:06Speaker 4: Absolutely, So one of the things that we try to
- 7:09Speaker 4: do is we try to tell our kids all the time,
- 7:10Speaker 4: you know, keep your head up, see what you're hitting right,
- 7:12Speaker 4: hit what you see and number one, wrap up and
- 7:14Speaker 4: just drive. It's hard because you, like you said, you
- 7:17Speaker 4: have all these rules in the league about knee dropping
- 7:20Speaker 4: and gator rolling and all this kind of stuff.
- 7:22Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you. From a defensive.
- 7:24Speaker 4: Perspective, I want you to close the space. I want
- 7:26Speaker 4: you to get your head across to protect yourself. I
- 7:28Speaker 4: want you to wrap up with your head up, and
- 7:30Speaker 4: I want you to run your feet. If you do
- 7:31Speaker 4: all those things, you can keep yourself safe along with
- 7:34Speaker 4: everybody else around you that's playing. If you come in
- 7:36Speaker 4: there flying with your head down, you gonna get hurt
- 7:38Speaker 4: and you can run the risk of hurting some of
- 7:40Speaker 4: your players or anybody else that's on the field. And
- 7:42Speaker 4: we want to play football with violent physical intentions, but
- 7:45Speaker 4: as safe as possible.
- 7:47Speaker 1: What's the hardest position defensively to coach today?
- 7:50Speaker 4: Ooh, that's a tough one from my perspective, I'm gonna
- 7:56Speaker 4: have to say, DB's when it comes to you know
- 7:58Speaker 4: what you're asking from your right. So we run a
- 8:01Speaker 4: lot of stuff where we're wanting to get the safeties
- 8:04Speaker 4: in the run support, but we're also telling them what
- 8:07Speaker 4: they got to play pass first, right, so and they
- 8:09Speaker 4: sometimes they get it mixed up. They think they're run
- 8:11Speaker 4: support first and they can play the past second, where
- 8:13Speaker 4: then they're getting beat behind their head and it's like, well, coach,
- 8:15Speaker 4: you know you told me this and this. Well, at
- 8:17Speaker 4: the end of the day, I think when it comes
- 8:19Speaker 4: to playing dB. You just got to be able to
- 8:22Speaker 4: You got to be able to read and react.
- 8:23Speaker 2: You know.
- 8:23Speaker 4: We give our guys two steps and you got to
- 8:25Speaker 4: make a decision. If it's past go, if it's run, go,
- 8:27Speaker 4: but don't go to you know, so when you tell
- 8:30Speaker 4: them all that, they kind of get it all mixed
- 8:32Speaker 4: up sometime. But it just comes from repetition for those guys, right,
- 8:36Speaker 4: Once they do it over and over and over again,
- 8:37Speaker 4: it's natural for them.
- 8:38Speaker 1: And I would assume high school level as well. We
- 8:41Speaker 1: see it in college on Saturdays. We see in the
- 8:42Speaker 1: NFL on Sundays. The rules are governed. And I gotta
- 8:45Speaker 1: be careful saying this because I'm not talking negatively about
- 8:47Speaker 1: officials at all or they mhs say or anything to
- 8:50Speaker 1: that nature. I think it's across the board. The game
- 8:52Speaker 1: is geared to the offense, right, so absolutely they sit
- 8:55Speaker 1: tough on a guy when knowing when to grab and
- 8:57Speaker 1: to chuck and to move and all that stuff.
- 8:59Speaker 4: We get on the all the time and we're sitting
- 9:01Speaker 4: there talking myself, Coach Mitchell, the rest of our coaches.
- 9:04Speaker 4: We're just talking on the board and Coach Mitchell tells
- 9:05Speaker 4: me all the time, you chose the wrong side of
- 9:06Speaker 4: the ball to coach and I'm the first time he
- 9:09Speaker 4: told me that, I'm like, what are you talking about?
- 9:10Speaker 4: He was like, well, I hold the pen last for everything,
- 9:12Speaker 4: and I was like, you know what, you got a point.
- 9:14Speaker 2: But you're absolutely right.
- 9:15Speaker 4: It's all kind of geared to protect the offense and
- 9:18Speaker 4: it makes sense to a certain extent.
- 9:20Speaker 2: But at some times, you know.
- 9:22Speaker 4: The stuff that the defense does, whether it's you know,
- 9:24Speaker 4: passing adference or if it's rough in the passer, you
- 9:27Speaker 4: can tell the difference between it being intentional to hurt
- 9:30Speaker 4: and it's just not intentional, Like we're just playing so fast,
- 9:33Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And I think it's getting
- 9:35Speaker 4: better at determining what's what. But another thing, like with targeting,
- 9:41Speaker 4: targeting is very in my opinion, it's very easy to
- 9:43Speaker 4: tell you come with your head down, you're targeting, and
- 9:45Speaker 4: that's simple. And whether you do it intentionally or unintentionally.
- 9:48Speaker 4: If you're doing it intentionally, well that's a that's a problem.
- 9:50Speaker 3: Right.
- 9:50Speaker 4: If you're doing it unintentionally, now you're putting yourself at
- 9:52Speaker 4: a risk of being injured along with whoever it is
- 9:54Speaker 4: that you're tackling.
- 9:55Speaker 2: So you're right, I mean it's geared to the offense.
- 9:57Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, we sign up
- 9:59Speaker 4: to coach defense, so we're gonna do what we gotta.
- 10:01Speaker 1: Do and still got to win play defensive win championship.
- 10:03Speaker 2: Here. There you go. Defense wins your championships for sure.
- 10:06Speaker 1: He is Michael Washington, defensive coordinator here at Germantown. Coach Washington. Hey,
- 10:10Speaker 1: look man, it's been a pleasure. Thank you so much
- 10:12Speaker 1: for jumping in with us.
- 10:12Speaker 2: Today, no problem, Thank you for having me really excited
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