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Battle for the American mind #3 Anthony Freda · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

• 0:24
  I want to start with this here.
• 0:26
  And this was interesting.
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  I've interviewed a lot of interesting people over the years.
• 0:29
  Okay.
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  A lot of fascinating folks.
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  It's been fun.
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  And but I have never ever interviewed.
• 0:36
  I can't recall interviewing anyways a domestic terrorist.
• 0:42
  How do you get that badge of honor here?
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  What is it exactly?
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  What you do?
• 0:47
  Well, Tulsi Gabbard um released it to classify material, um, proving that anyone who was publicly on public uh social media platforms, um, questioning the COVID narrative, all the things that we know now were untrue.
• 1:04
  I was doing it in a very public way, and anybody who was doing that in a public way was classified as a domestic violent terrorist.
• 1:14
  They I actually put the word violent in there.
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  So I'm on that list, but I think I've been on it for a while because like as you mentioned, I'm I work for InfoWars.
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  I think that automatically, like, you know, yeah, you get a little uh special check next to your name.
• 1:26
  So I've done I've been involved with a lot of thought criminals over the years, and um, yeah, I have uh I have the bona feeties to prove it.
• 1:33
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:34
  All right, so how do you go from I get the whole tulsi gabbard thing?
• 1:38
  I mean, she didn't specifically call you that or put you on there, right?
• 1:41
  Just was the Biden era, the Biden era being exposed to what the Biden was doing during the COVID.
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  And we all many of us did get called that in that sense, you're exactly right.
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  And we were censored, shadow banned, uh, stripped bare naked and uh dragged through the mud.
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  Uh, nobody could get their message out for a long time.
• 1:57
  It was very difficult.
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  Uh I was banned and thrown off uh like um several of them, uh Facebook, uh, and there were no reasons for it whatsoever because I don't do extremist stuff, Anthony.
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  I I don't do uh I don't do that kind of crap, you know.
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  So it's just not me.
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  But if you mention anything like Sandy Hook in a title, even or vaccine in a title, doesn't matter what the content was, and they knew you were a conservative, you were flushed on the toilet immediately.
• 2:23
  So they happened to be with Facebook, happened to be with uh even LinkedIn, which I liked LinkedIn a lot, and that was a more serious conversation on LinkedIn because I don't really, I'm not a big fan of social media.
• 2:34
  I find it uh just not a great tool for me.
• 2:37
  It's it's it's a little vile and disgust, you know, the way yeah, I and I don't go back and forth with people.
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  I just I don't have the uh the RAM for that.
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  And uh it's just it's yeah, it's nonsense.
• 2:49
  They call me whatever and I don't really care what people call me, as long as they call me, it doesn't matter to me, really, truly.
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  If you call me this or that or the other, it's all it's all fine.
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  I don't take anything personally, you know.
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  I mean, it's like okay.
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  Yeah, yeah, it's like whatever.
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  Yeah, you when you throw your hat in the ring and the public ring, you kind of know you're doing that, you know, that you just gotta have a backbone.
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  But it happened on LinkedIn, YouTube started throwing videos off the line.
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  Now, I don't haven't posted anything on YouTube in eight, nine years since really just uh actually really about a little more than that, because it was back just before America Rot Loud launched, which was 2016, okay, as we're nine and a half years coming up on our 10-year anniversary.
• 3:28
  And uh, so uh, you know, I I haven't posted on it because I find them corrupt, they're communist.
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  Uh, they just give you it's just one hassle after the next.
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  And same thing with Facebook, same with the LinkedIn.
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  So I get the whole domestic terrorist uh label that they were labeling um people, conservatives and all.
• 3:46
  Um, but to make the leap, what really fascinates me here is to make the leap, uh and this has got to be a story behind this.
• 3:53
  I want to hear the New York Times, the Atlantic, the Rolling Stone to InfoWars.
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  How does that happen?
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  Well, it was a series of sort of revelations.
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  Um, I started my career in advertising, and I um started, you know, as a young man.
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  I learned more in advertising.
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  I went to Pratt four years for art, got out in 1984, and you know, I was immediately in the trenches in the advertising uh bullpen, and you learn more there in uh in a month than you do going to art school about the real world for four years.
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  And um, anyway, I eventually started my own advertising art studio in Manhattan, very successful.
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  I'm a young man in my 20s, and I have all the trappings of success, right?
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  I'm working for Fortune 500 companies, all the big agencies in the city, got my own shop.
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  I bought a condo in the city, and I thought I was on top of the world.
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  And then we worked on this campaign for RJ Reynolds, the uh Joe Camel campaign.
• 4:54
  Oh, yeah.
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  And uh some of you viewers might remember it was these corny, cheesy cartoons of camels playing pool and as a hot camel chick standing behind them, you know.
• 5:03
  Well, that was a successful campaign though.
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  Oh, it was massively successful.
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  And I mean, I don't know how many hundreds of these images were created for this campaign.
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  I was just one of the artists working on it.
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  But um did you smoke when you were doing that?
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  No.
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  Wasn't one of my vices, fortunately.
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  No, I never did either, but that's uh one of my dad smoked camels, that's why I asked you.
• 5:25
  I never did.
• 5:26
  Oh, yeah.
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  My grandfather did probably kill them too.
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  But uh so the FTC comes along and determines that our campaign is illegal because they say we were marketing cigarettes to children.
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  Yeah, and I had this kind of moral crisis where I said to myself, wow, like I didn't become an artist to sell cigarettes to kids.
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  Like I'm breaking the law, I'm doing something immoral.
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  Like, what am I doing with my life?
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  So I said, I'm done with advertising.
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  Plus, I saw the whole SMARMy, you know, mass psychological influence campaigns and how they prey on people's weaknesses and fears and desires to sell them stuff they don't want or don't need.
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  So I said, I want to work for the good guys, right?
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  I'm still a young man, very naive politically.
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  And I said, I want to work for the New York Times and I want to work for Time Magazine and the New Yorker.
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  These were like, you know, I thought I looked at them as the gold standard of journalism.
• 6:19
  Yep, sure.
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  And maybe at one point they were, but I don't know.
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  But at that time, I started working for the op ed page in the New York Times, which I thought this is like really, you know, premier showcase to be as an illustrator.
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  You I was writing articles that were penned by you know heads of state and all these, you know, elite.
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  I think that's what I'm saying.
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  You were you you were right in the articles and doing the illustrations?
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  No, no, I'm sorry.
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  I was just I was only illustrating.
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  But the thought was written by you know the power brokers of the world.
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  That's what I thought, yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  It's kind of where the space where I think the elite message one another.
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  So I'm working for them, and they told me that every word we print here has to be vetted by the State Department.
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  So I said that's odd.
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  I said, What if the State Department's lying?
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  And you isn't your job to you know, counter that lie or you know, do some of journalism.
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  And they said, No, we can't print it.
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  So they gave me this piece written by Condoleezza Rice, who was the Secretary of State at the time.
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  Greatly.
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  And yeah, and the um, but in this piece, there was a lot of the false cast as Bell Eye that took us to Iraq war.
• 7:26
  Yeah, and um I had this other moral crisis where I say, Wow, I'm basically working for a mouthpiece for the State Department, and I'm promoting basically false pretext for this invasion of Iraq, you know, by proxy by working with this entity, and I had another sort of dark night of the soul, Malcolm.
• 7:49
  Yeah, I said, What am I doing with my life?
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  So, and and I was crestfalling because these are my heroes, and now they're like the villains.
• 7:55
  Wow, and a lot of other things led to that too, but by just losing faith in the mainstream media.
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  But um, if anybody has faith in them now, I mean, God bless you.
• 8:06
  I don't know how they could possibly come, but this is a long time ago.
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  Yeah, and um, so I said at that time it was a seminal movement of the um internet news sites, and there was the health freedom movement, the liberty.
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  Things were changing quick, yeah.
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  Things were changing quick in the early 2000s, and it was really exciting.
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  And I saw all these people, and they all needed visual content, you know, for AI.
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  So they had to come to guys like me, and they needed book covers or they needed uh post of documentary, or they needed content for the website.
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  So I saw the work of all these great people, and I finally could sleep at night because I felt like I mean I took a big cut in pay, but it's like Jesus said you can't serve God and mammon.
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  So I could sleep at night, and I just had to adjust my lifestyle.
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  And um, I've been working there ever since.
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  And like I say, I uh uh my conscience is clear.
• 8:58
  Yeah, yeah.
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  Well, you learned a lot, and you said a whole lot there.
• 9:01
  That's very interesting to me, because uh much of what you said there is really you think about it, Anthony.
• 9:07
  It's the telltale signs of what's happening right now in our uh in the world, in our country, in our nation, how how we've lost so many people, how we lose so many generations and young people that are captured by the minds of what you've just described there.
• 9:23
  I mean, let's face it, you're working for the elite.
• 9:26
  Uh, you know, uh that would be a dream come true for anybody in their 20s as a young artist kind of thing, you know, like that's about as hip as it would get kind of thing.
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  And yet you find out it's the devil you're working for.
• 9:39
  Uh it really is the devil.
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  And you know, it just tells you when people think about this media world, and and really should irritate just everybody.
• 9:48
  At some point, I don't know, does America ever open up their eyes?
• 9:51
  I wonder and see what the hell is going on.
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  Americans, I wonder, because the way you describe with the Times and the State Department, and they've always had that.
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  Relationship there.
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  And yeah, you're right.
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  There was a time way back, there was some semblance of what you might think would be journalism, whatever that was, but it's gone.
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  And all and it's all of these entities.
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  They stack up right after the whole thing, lock stock and barrel.
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  And then when social media started to come out, right?
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  All the social media stuff, they all were on the left.
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  And you know what really used to irritate me is that a lot of the Republicans, I used to hear them whine all the time.
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  I mean, constant, constant, constant whining about their censoring shadow shadow banning, and they can't deal with it anymore.
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  And it's it's just so I just I like I just don't bother.
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  Like I just I wouldn't touch Facebook again, whatever.
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  They threw me off with 80,000 people and flushed me.
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  Why would I go back to those people?
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  Uh why would you know why would I put things on uh the YouTube?
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  People are saying to me, gotta be on YouTube with this show.
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  I don't give a shit about YouTube.
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  Uh I said, uh it's like if that's what success is, forget about it.
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  I think we can find other ways to get it out there.
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  I don't need it.
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  And people like they get all upset with that, you know.
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  But the Republicans they would wine.
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  And here's the thing about it, and I don't know what you think about this, but all these whiners, uh, it's the left had the ingenuity and the brains, and they bought all this stuff and they own all this stuff, and they did all this stuff, and they owned all the media, they owned all the social media, and they ran it lock, stock and barrel.
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  And but you know that but they owned it.
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  They were they were private entities, they could do whatever they wanted to do.
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  I mean, they're not being controlled by somebody, but the right say, Well, they can't do that.
• 11:34
  Well, yeah, they can do that, they can't do that.
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  What's yeah, yeah, they can do that, man.
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  They're doing it.
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  Yeah, well, no, you make a good point because I mean, look at all our institutions.
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  Take big tech Silicon Valley, take academia, take publishing, take the art world, take education.
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  They're all 90% control by the left.
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  So, where the hell were the conservatives for the last 50 years?
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  They let these people who are much more determined than we are, apparently.
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  You know, this is part of the long march through history.
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  They're thinking, you know, Fabian Socialists started this whole thing, and they and we're coming to the end of the long march now, where the mayor of New York is a you know, jihadi Marxist, and the mayor of London's a jihadi Marxist.
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  Like they're winning.
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  So we I mean, we didn't do anything for 50 years.
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  We better wake up because this is an existential crisis, and from multiple fronts, but you're right.
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  We we let them take over the institutions, and you can't complain about it.
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  Why didn't you, you know, where was where was the conservative media?
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  Where was the conservative Netflix?
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  Where was the conservative, you know, education system?
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  They didn't exist.
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  No, no, no.
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  And a lot of them started to come along little bits.
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  It was really late in the game at that point, but the gab and the getter and all these, and they were sort of dysfunctional, and they really know what the hell they were doing, you know, kind of thing.
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  And you all joined them.
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  We all joined to think, okay, and there was just nothing really happening there.
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  And then, of course, Twitter was another bonfire, and then Elon Musk says, Well, but I he had this, he has this vision.
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  I don't think a lot of people know he has this vision called X.
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  It's way beyond Twitter and that's social media.
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  You might know that.
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  And that's where everything is going to be tied to this.
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  He's thinking futuristic here.
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  He's thinking X is a whole paradigm switch, and it's going to have all these things, and it's going to be X, and he's going to be one of the planet gods, I guess.
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  I don't know.
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  They're all trying to live forever.
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  The Zuckerbergs and the Musk, and they've got all these chambers they go in and stuff they're doing in the mountains and crap, you know.
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  Um right, that's what they're doing.
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  And so he brought Twitter over and probably didn't know quite what to make of that.
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  The conservative movements, people in my circle said, well, we really don't know what this cat's about because he was like Trump in many ways.
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  He was a mixed bag politically.
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  You really didn't know who or what he was up front.
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  That's why people didn't trust Trump.
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  What does he?
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  You know, he's been giving money to the Democrats forever.
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  He's been kissing their asses forever.
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  Why would we trust him?
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  And it's the same thing with Musk.
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  But yet he did it, and then he started changing things quickly, uh, still doing a fair amount of uh from what I hear from people now.
• 13:57
  I haven't had the experience, but some people are still saying that he's still there's still a lot of shadow banning uh problems over there.
• 14:03
  I haven't seen it, so I can't speak to that.
• 14:05
  Have you seen it with X?
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  Is that still happening on X, do you know?
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  I'm not a big X guy because I was banned from there years ago, and like you said about Facebook, like you know, why would you want to be with somebody who hates you, you know, and it's constantly trying to ban you.
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  But I've heard it's better, but it still exists.
• 14:22
  From are you on there at all now?
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  Do you have an account or no?
• 14:25
  Occasionally, yeah, I have an account, but you do have an account, okay.
• 14:27
  So I want to tag you in it when this goes up as well.
• 14:30
  Yeah, I gotta that's a good reason to get back on there.
• 14:33
  That's it.
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  I got people who aren't on there now.
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  They say maybe I should get an account on this.
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  They're probably X has an X though in some weird sort of way.
• 14:41
  And I hear what you're saying with him taking it over, though, it's kind of a new set of rules.
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  And he's trying to create this town square a little bit, this sort of town square.
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  And in many ways, it kind of has if you look at all social media, it kind of has become that, isn't it?
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  Kind of, Anthony.
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  Isn't it the one out of all of them?
• 14:57
  Absolutely.
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  I mean, that well, that was the promise of the internet, right?
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  That we could have a free open exchange of ideas, and the promise got twisted by censorship and shadow banning and algorithms and political uh machinations behind the scenes.
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  So it really got completely perverted.
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  So I mean, maybe we can you know go back to the beginning, the way the internet was supposed to be in the 90s, and that would be nice.
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  But so a lot of these problems still exist, but yeah, I I think Elon, you know, is a free speech advocate, and I think he's doing great things with with that and with Grocopedia and as we woke upedia, is I know from my own experience.
• 15:35
  I have Wikipedia page, and they just say things about me that aren't true.
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  Everybody that does it with everybody, they do it with uh Dr.
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  McCullough, they have him on there as a freak of uh all kinds of uh lies and just horrible stuff.
• 15:46
  They do it with everybody, a lot all our people on platform that way.
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  They're all criticized on Wikipedia.
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  How can you trust that?
• 15:52
  You know, you can't, but you know, the only solution is to do what we're doing, like create parallel ME spaces.
• 15:58
  That's it, but but but not cheesy, you know, like you know, Hallmark Christian stuff, like real art, real information, professionally produced uh movies and films to counter Netflix and education to counter the entire education system, and and we can there are people that are doing it, and you know, my I give them I applaud them because this is what we need, but it has to be robust and powerful and well-funded.
• 16:26
  There's a lot of rich conservatives, you know, they need to step up to the plate because we need them.
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  Civilization, Western civilization needs them.
• 16:33
  Yeah, why you know?
• 16:34
  I wonder often, uh, and I asked myself, why did the left see all that opportunity?
• 16:39
  You just got into you're you're right.
• 16:41
  You mentioned education, but the movie Hollywood, the movie, the film industry, all of that.
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  They sort of shaped culture and all of that all the way through.
• 16:50
  And it was so much garbage out there.
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  Like, I don't, I'm not a TV person, I hate television.
• 16:56
  Uh, there's so much garbage on there.
• 16:57
  Now, my wife loves it, she loves all the crime shows and all that stuff with people are killing each other and stuff.
• 17:02
  It's not my bag.
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  Uh, so uh I find other ways to entertain.
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  I said to her the other day, in fact, she'll she'll hit me when she hears this.
• 17:08
  I'm sure she hit she's I said to her the other day, I said, honey, I can't, I can't do it because I'm working all the time, you know, and so uh really all the time.
• 17:16
  And she says, um, yeah, she'll put the television on this or that.
• 17:19
  And I said, I really don't want to watch that garbage tonight.
• 17:22
  I said, why don't we just go sit and have a cocktail in the other room and we listen to some classical music or do something else?
• 17:28
  I want to watch, I want to watch the crime show or something, you know.
• 17:33
  We have that disparity a little bit here.
• 17:35
  Do you have that problem in your life yourself or no?
• 17:38
  Well, yeah, I mean it becomes an addiction, you know.
• 17:42
  I mean, those those shows are designed to addict you to the binge watching and Netflix, yeah.
• 17:47
  Netflix is 2500 episodes of some boring show that becomes a soap opera, and it's just belts your brain in every week to go watch that soap opera garbage.
• 17:58
  It's and the prop, but this, but there's you know, intersectionalists woke leftist propaganda in every scene, every scene is about identity politics.
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  They they shoehorn it in, and it makes you just uncomfortable.
• 18:08
  So the propaganda is so ham-fisted that it's hard to sit through one of these shows.
• 18:14
  But um, again, but but they listen, the left was smart enough to know that why were they smart enough?
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  Why?
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  Do you know?
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  They know politics is downstream from culture.
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  So we control the culture, we control education, we control publishing.
• 18:26
  We if we control these institutions, we control the narrative, we control the children, we control the future, and they saw that a hundred years ago.
• 18:34
  So they figured right.
• 18:35
  Uh, you you hit it.
• 18:36
  I mean, you're right on target here.
• 18:38
  They figured that out a long time ago, Anthony, what you say there before we even knew it was a thing.
• 18:42
  I mean, we were just totally caught, the right republic conservatives and patriotism, all of that.
• 18:47
  We're really caught with our draws down at our ankles, you know.
• 18:51
  I mean, really bare ass in the woods.
• 18:53
  I mean, really, like we I nobody even know what happened.
• 18:55
  All of a sudden we wake up, we're in the 80s and 90s, and everything's being taken from us.
• 18:59
  They own the culture, they own the education, they own the movies, and then they're gonna own social media, so then they own everything.
• 19:04
  So I ask people sometimes, where were the conservatives in that?
• 19:08
  Where were the patriots?
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  Who were and the Republican establishment, where were they?
• 19:12
  And the answer I got back from a couple three different people is um well, uh, they were busy raising their families, they were busy uh making money, uh capitalists, they were busy uh running their businesses, uh, entrepreneurs, uh capitalists, and they just left the rest to other people.
• 19:31
  And I think, well, that has got to be the lamest thing.
• 19:33
  We we we gave it all to the wolves.
• 19:36
  We we gave it all to these people that are corrupt and disgusting and that just want to corrupt our world.
• 19:43
  Um do you know why?
• 19:44
  I mean, is that fit in your world?
• 19:47
  I think that's part of it, but I think what's interesting and somewhat encouraging is I think that there's a realization now of what you just said that, right?
• 19:56
  We were busy doing our jobs and working, take care of family, and
• 20:00
  And but now it's gotten so bad.
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  It had to get to this point.
• 20:03
  You know, just regular American, hard working, good Christian folk were saying they woke the sleeping giant.
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  And we are the sleeping giant.
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  And we're pissed off and we're done.
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  And I think that that movement, I mean, it has to be carefully, you know.
• 20:18
  So you you're encouraged right now with the sleeping giant.
• 20:20
  Then you are you telling me with this movement of MAGA and Trump and everything that's happening.
• 20:25
  Are you encouraged with that?
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  That there's that this is a good thing, something's happening.
• 20:29
  Is that what you're saying?
• 20:31
  Well, imagine what it'd be like if Kamal got her uh elected.
• 20:35
  We'd be in some deep uh doo-doo.
• 20:38
  So it's much better than that.
• 20:40
  And it's I have a pretty good imagination, but my imagination can't go there.
• 20:44
  Sorry.
• 20:46
  Well, listen, I I mean I worked for the RFK campaign when he was running as an independent.
• 20:50
  And um again, I got to see how the sausages were made working on presidential campaign.
• 20:55
  How did you how did you get that word with that job?
• 20:57
  How did you well?
• 20:58
  This is interesting story.
• 20:59
  So I love what RFK was doing.
• 21:01
  I firmly believe, and I know now after working with him for a year that he wants it's very simple things.
• 21:08
  Safer food, safer drugs, a less corrupt system.
• 21:11
  I mean, that's good for everybody.
• 21:13
  How anybody has a problem with that?
• 21:14
  I'll never understand.
• 21:16
  But um, we're in this situation where the tell you what story how I got the job.
• 21:22
  I wanted this job, and I didn't even I said I want to be an illustrator for the RFK campaign.
• 21:26
  And I didn't even know if that position existed, but I prayed on it and I prayed on it and I prayed on it, and I swear to God, Malcolm, I get an email.
• 21:35
  Do you want to be an illustrator for RFK superpower?
• 21:39
  And it was a paying, very well paying job.
• 21:42
  I was under contract with that for a year.
• 21:44
  So I mean, that's how God works, you know.
• 21:47
  I mean, just I I felt like it's something I had to do, and I had no idea how to do it.
• 21:52
  That's the testimony of the power of prayer right there.
• 21:54
  If there ever was one, you just nailed it right there.
• 21:56
  That's amazing.
• 21:57
  That's and that's a true story.
• 22:01
  So uh RFK Jr.
• 22:03
  is uh, I mean, we talk about him a fair amount on the network here on the platform.
• 22:08
  Uh Dr.
• 22:08
  McCullough knows him real well.
• 22:10
  Uh Dr.
• 22:10
  Ely does knows him real well.
• 22:12
  Um several of the other docs know him very well as well on the platform here because of, you know, um uh because of him being a health guy as he is with Maha and all that, and they support him and all, you know.
• 22:27
  Um, but a lot of them have become a little disillusioned a little bit with the success metrics coming out of the Maha campaign, I guess, or with the work he's doing.
• 22:38
  And what he always what RFK says back to these uh guys here that know him pretty closely, is that I work at the pleasure of the president.
• 22:49
  That's what he says.
• 22:50
  I only can do so much.
• 22:54
  What do you think there is to that?
• 22:55
  What do you think?
• 22:56
  Well, I think that's true.
• 22:57
  I think Trump only has probably has you know a threshold where he's where he is not willing to go past.
• 23:03
  But I also think I mean, just look at the congressional hearings.
• 23:06
  Look, I mean, he's going against the most powerful institutions in the world, you know, the pharmaceutical industry.
• 23:12
  I mean, would the way they berate him and lie about him in the press on a daily basis and demonize him and I mean he he's against some serious opposition who are incredibly powerful and well funded, and then they're just relentless.
• 23:26
  I saw it during the campaign.
• 23:28
  I mean relentless attacks, I mean criminal stuff, I mean immoral, illegal, unethical onslaughts of lies and smears and law affair and attacks and I mean going back to the the other point was the reason the liberals took over is because we underestimated how evil and determined they are.
• 23:49
  I'll give them credit for one thing.
• 23:51
  They're determined, they never surrendered, and we should just take them at their word, like they're not gonna stop.
• 23:57
  They're not gonna say, okay, you won.
• 23:59
  They're never going to stop.
• 24:01
  So and Anthony, let me ask you now do I have this right?
• 24:04
  Or I and it may not be right, I don't really know.
• 24:07
  But uh you were you were liberal at one point, were you not a Democrat?
• 24:11
  Or were you?
• 24:12
  Yeah, when I was in my 20s, I mean I sort of bought into um the whole So you were there.
• 24:17
  I did.
• 24:17
  Yeah, I was there.
• 24:18
  This is a long time ago, but I uh you know, before my transformation, my awakening, uh transcending as in trans ending, but I love it.
• 24:27
  No, I was, but you know, it's funny.
• 24:29
  If you listen to speeches by Clinton in the 90s, he sounds like Trump.
• 24:33
  He's talking about common sense things like closing the border and like you know, I mean free trade.
• 24:38
  I mean, things that are like common sense, yeah, that today they're considered Nazi fascism.
• 24:43
  It's like you could see Obama saying the same thing, Hillary and Pelosi.
• 24:48
  They all said the same thing Trump said, but what he says is it's evil because the culture has you know descended into this pit of you know Marxist Justin.
• 24:57
  So they became more radical that that you're you're on to something here.
• 25:00
  They all became more radical, and now you mentioned early on, Lau with like uh Mondami in New York City and Katie Wilson, the other nut job in Seattle, uh, and they're littered all over the country.
• 25:11
  Now they're all popping up like whack-a-mole uh in these towns and cities.
• 25:15
  Uh, they're like it's a free spirit now to be a socialist communist and run in America.
• 25:20
  That's like somehow a cool thing to people.
• 25:22
  I don't even begin to know.
• 25:23
  It doesn't even fit the vocabulary here.
• 25:25
  You have a hard time spitting it out, and it like it doesn't fit into our constitution.
• 25:30
  Sorry, it doesn't fit into this republic.
• 25:33
  Uh and I don't know how far they're taking it, but it appears they're taking it pretty far.
• 25:36
  How nervous are you about this, brother?
• 25:38
  How how do you feel like there's enough momentum happening on the other side that you're not worried at all?
• 25:43
  Or do you feel like uh we could be screwed?
• 25:47
  I think if we don't get as serious as they are, and meet them with equal measure of termination and force and human will and God's grace, then we are doomed.
• 26:00
  And I think eventually, if we don't meet the Islamic threat and this weird unholy alliance between radical Islam and radical leftism, that uh it's gonna be it's gonna become a physical war.
• 26:14
  I mean, it's gonna be blood on the streets all the time.
• 26:16
  Well, I want to talk to you about that.
• 26:17
  The the the left is being used.
• 26:19
  I think you'll agree with this.
• 26:20
  The the left is being used from Islam as the useful idiots right now.
• 26:23
  Is that correct?
• 26:24
  Yeah, yeah.
• 26:25
  Absolutely and many of them.
• 26:26
  I don't know if they just don't have the I don't know how high level their intelligence is over there.
• 26:31
  I really don't know.
• 26:32
  Or do they have any inkling that they're being used as useful idiots?
• 26:35
  Like even Mandami, and he does it with such a grin and a disgusting look.
• 26:40
  It's like, and it's almost like the grin.
• 26:42
  You can see the the Satanist energy come from, you know, it's like and he says this, you know, and I'm gonna like screw you over like this, you know, right?
• 26:53
  Well, yeah.
• 26:54
  Well, there's there's a principle in Islam called Takiya, which is the principle uh that you are allowed to lie because Muhammad was a deceiver.
• 27:01
  100%.
• 27:02
  And that so he can on one hand he's going to these, you know, uh pro-gay rallies with his arms around gay people.
• 27:08
  The other hand he says he's about Muslim, like those two things are anathema.
• 27:12
  So you can't you're lying.
• 27:14
  One of the you're either like you love gay people and you're not Muslim, or you hate gay people and you're a Muslim because you know, the 70 countries that uh being openly gay is a crime.
• 27:24
  And 12 is they throw them off the roofs and kill them, they murder them in 12 countries.
• 27:28
  The penalty for being openly gay, that's all you gotta do is death.
• 27:32
  And people get more upset about that me for pointing that out than they do at the people who are actually killing homosexuals.
• 27:38
  I don't want to kill homosexuals.
• 27:39
  Well, what are you mad at me for?
• 27:41
  It's like they call that a hate fact when you say something that's true, but it makes one of these oppressed uh groups looking.
• 27:46
  You become a fascist white supremacist immediately.
• 27:48
  That's what you're called right there, right there.
• 27:50
  And people murdering people, they're fine.
• 27:56
  Something is warped about that story, man.
• 27:59
  Something is well, this is this is a satanic inversion of reality, right?
• 28:03
  Up is down, good is bad, uh light is dark.
• 28:06
  It's it's the reversal uh principle or the law of inversion, and that's what Satan wants, right?
• 28:12
  Did the upside down cross is a symbol of that spirit of inversion.
• 28:16
  Yeah, we're under attack.
• 28:18
  I think you agree with me.
• 28:19
  We're under attack.
• 28:21
  We are uh and let me share with you here.
• 28:24
  We're in the fight of in this is my world now uh speaking in.
• 28:27
  I I think but I think you relate to it.
• 28:29
  We we have an awful lot of uh of synergy in common here in our lives and working in the advertiser marketing and then identifying these potholes and pitfalls here, very, very fascinating.
• 28:38
  And uh, but you know, it's like um, you know, we we get what's going on, but this good and evil fight that is the center point, Anthony of this whole uh platform.
• 28:51
  This thing happened like it was really weird in 2016.
• 28:56
  And uh I had left the boardrooms, the corporate boardrooms about four years before then.
• 29:01
  And I was doing uh national radio, a lot of radio gigs, and I was doing some television and because I had been producing and directed radio and television for many years before then, you know.
• 29:10
  I was um uh in the advertising world, you know.
• 29:13
  I I was the CEO creative director, so I had groups of teams of creative directors, uh, art directors, etc.
• 29:19
  Copywriters, all of that.
• 29:20
  I loved walking into a room with a client coming to the corporate boardroom.
• 29:23
  It was music and you know, making it happen, you know.
• 29:26
  Uh it was good fun, and uh did that for a lot of years.
• 29:29
  That was my life.
• 29:30
  And um uh, but I knew I knew when Barack Obama's um camp when his uh um eight years was happening, I knew we were in pretty serious trouble as a nation.
• 29:41
  I could see the Marxist tendencies, and uh and I I wasn't outspoken about it or anything, but that's when I trademarked out loud and went with uh went with Malcolm out loud and I said this I was still in the agency, but I knew I was leaving.
• 29:53
  I I was getting out because I was either going to run for political office or I was gonna use the media as a tool uh to
• 30:00
  Make some change, make some hay, make some difference.
• 30:02
  I have a life that uh meant something more uh than uh succumbing to this holding.
• 30:08
  And it was and I wasn't doing it for ego, and I wasn't doing it for anybody else, Anthony.
• 30:12
  But I don't really I I'm not a follower, I've never been a follower in my life.
• 30:16
  I'm a leader, even to the point that it'll get me in trouble.
• 30:20
  You know, I was the cat who they didn't want in the in the corporate boardroom in the uh board meetings or the committee meetings, because I would tell you the what I call the out loud truth, which is what many of those cats don't want to hear, they don't really want to hear the out loud truth, you know.
• 30:33
  Yeah, you know, and I would tell you the truth, and I would always be a gentleman about it.
• 30:37
  I'm I'm not gonna be an ass, but uh I would give you the facts on at least.
• 30:41
  And and I've had I have I have I have uh uh funny stories about all that one time we use on air here, but they're they're funny.
• 30:48
  Um so uh you know, this all sort of happened, and and when I uh I seen what was going on in the social media world, all the stuff was happening back and forth, you know, and uh, and then um I started to help some people in military law enforcement and some of the doctors launched some shows.
• 31:04
  I didn't know where it was going, and we called it America Out Loud, had no idea, I had no master plan, no grand plan, but I always knew, and you'll appreciate this.
• 31:13
  I've always known in my life uh that uh God was going to use me in some fascinating ways down the road.
• 31:18
  I know since I was probably 14, 15 years old.
• 31:21
  I I just knew I I didn't know why I knew, and I didn't know what exactly that was going to mean.
• 31:26
  I had no idea that, but I knew that uh I would be uh utilized in this fight of good and evil.
• 31:32
  Let me just say that.
• 31:33
  I just knew I knew.
• 31:35
  And uh so 2016 happens, this starts happening all over.
• 31:40
  The center point of this whole thing was good and evil.
• 31:42
  My show was good and evil.
• 31:43
  Everything about it in my mind was we're fighting the evil forces, we're fighting the radicals, we're fighting the leftists, we're fighting the communists, we're fighting the globalists, we're fighting the Islamists, we're fighting the Democrats.
• 31:52
  Even though I don't like to use the word democrats a lot, my our team does, our network does.
• 31:57
  I um there are a lot of still good democrats with that title that have been hijacked into this thing, and they they they don't know it yet, even the party of JFK, they're gone.
• 32:06
  And I feel bad for those people.
• 32:07
  I don't know how to pull them out of there.
• 32:09
  We're trying to reach more and more of those people.
• 32:10
  Those are the people I really would love to tune in here.
• 32:13
  Those are the people I'd love to catch up on, frankly, too.
• 32:15
  Because I want to bring them into a real conversation about life, not hostile, you know, just life, and what can we do here?
• 32:22
  That makes sense.
• 32:24
  Absolutely.
• 32:24
  I think that's a hope.
• 32:25
  You know, that's that's the really the majority of Americans.
• 32:28
  I think they're in that they're not left, they're not right, they're just more center and trying to, you know, see what makes the most sense.
• 32:36
  What's you know, what's the most practical, logical or reasonable uh way forward.
• 32:42
  And these moves to extremism are not gonna help anybody, but uh yeah.
• 32:47
  I mean, my I that's great.
• 32:49
  You knew when you were a young man that you wanted you you felt like God was calling you.
• 32:53
  Uh I didn't feel that until like two years ago when I had a spiritual transformation.
• 32:59
  But um really tell us about it.
• 33:02
  Well, it goes back to Netflix and Obama are connected, so yeah, the Obamas made a movie called Lead This World Behind or Leave the World Behind.
• 33:12
  I don't know if you're familiar with it, it's a sort of uh dystopian end of the world political fear porn thing, which I knew it was.
• 33:18
  I mean, the Obamas didn't get into you know making movies for Netflix because they always had a burning desire to be the you know producers.
• 33:25
  They lost the bully pulpit, so now we're gonna use Netflix and politics is downstream from culture.
• 33:30
  So they're smart enough to know that.
• 33:33
  And watching this movie, and it's you know, it's pretty stressful.
• 33:35
  It's like nine o'clock at night on a cold December night, and I'm in bed with my fiance.
• 33:40
  And she says, um, halfway through the movie, she says, uh, I don't feel so good.
• 33:44
  I feel like I'm having chest pains or my heart is racing.
• 33:48
  And I said, Well, let's just turn this crap off, you know.
• 33:52
  It's if it's stressing you out.
• 33:54
  And wow, um immediately she starts wildly convulsing and speaking in tongues and looking at me with the the most terrified expression I've ever seen in my life.
• 34:07
  And and then she seized up and went into a non-convulsive seizure, sort of forming at the mouth, blood coming out of her mouth.
• 34:15
  We found out later that she almost she literally almost bit her tongue in half.
• 34:18
  Oh my god.
• 34:20
  And I didn't know what to do.
• 34:21
  So I called 911, and the robot gets on the phone and says, Your call is very important to us.
• 34:27
  There are eight calls ahead of you.
• 34:29
  So on 911 on 911.
• 34:32
  I swear to God, 911.
• 34:34
  So I got my son who was there to call, and they the EMT came and in the interim before the while I was waiting for the EMT, I didn't know what to do.
• 34:42
  Malcolm, I felt so incompetent really because I felt like she was dying in my arms, and I just held her and I prayed, and I didn't know what else to do.
• 34:51
  I didn't know what's happening.
• 34:52
  And she's stiff as a board, and then at one moment, every her body goes limp.
• 34:59
  And she starts laughing, and she has this look of complete peace and tranquility on her face, like I've never seen before.
• 35:07
  It was complete opposite of the way she looked before.
• 35:10
  And she's just in this place of of peace and tranquility, and I couldn't reach her, but she was she was in a I believe with my whole heart that she was with God, she was a loved ones.
• 35:21
  She went to the other dimension.
• 35:23
  She was in heaven, and because she had a look of just perfect peace.
• 35:29
  And then I believe it just wasn't her time.
• 35:32
  And she was sent back, and she just clenched up again and just tensed up and started seizing again.
• 35:40
  And um, anyway, to make a long story short, two years later, she had a you know, long convalescence, but 75% of the people that happens to die.
• 35:50
  She had a brain bleed, and uh it was you know, it's hemorrhagic stroke, really.
• 35:57
  Um, so it that night I just realized that I prayed for her to live and she lived, and that was the greatest gift.
• 36:07
  And it was the greatest gift that I ever had to save her life that night, because if she had lived alone like she did not long before that, there's no way she would have survived.
• 36:16
  Um so it brought us both closer to God and just reinvigorated our faith.
• 36:23
  And it made me want to put the my gift that God gave me into the service of the Lord.
• 36:31
  Everything I do now is devotion, a dedication, a prayer is to the glory of God and to Jesus.
• 36:37
  And um I feel I I feel that connection now to my true purpose and my true authentic self that's in harmony and in alignment with my true voice, my spirit, God's spirit inside me, and the light inside me.
• 36:58
  Do you um what do you think?
• 37:00
  Do you think that movie had uh something to do with it?
• 37:04
  Well, this is interesting.
• 37:06
  So, you know, I started researching it, and people are saying that they downloaded hundreds of Netflix movies, the files, and every single one out of hundreds and hundreds of them have they have one audio file and one video file.
• 37:20
  This one has one video file and four audiophiles, and one of them is uh infrasonic.
• 37:28
  So you can't even hear it with the human ear.
• 37:31
  And in the movie, the whole premise of the movie is this there's this noise, they call it the noise, and it's this mysterious like sonic weapon or acoustic weapon that we don't they never describe what it is, but it makes people have incredible pain and their teeth fall out.
• 37:46
  And you see in sci-fi movies at times, yeah, that kind of thing.
• 37:49
  Yeah, but this is I mean, we know sound weapons are no, no, no, no, no.
• 37:54
  But um, I don't know.
• 37:58
  I don't this is just speculation on my part, but people are talking about online that many people have had very uh negative effects after watching that movie.
• 38:08
  Did you ever go back and finish watching the movie or no?
• 38:10
  Did you ever see the ending or no?
• 38:12
  No, I'm afraid to yeah, that's what I'm wondering.
• 38:15
  I'm wondering.
• 38:16
  Well, what did you watch?
• 38:17
  Half a half of it or something or part of it, or three quarters of it, maybe oh well, three quarters of it.
• 38:22
  Okay.
• 38:22
  I've never seen the movie, so I don't I can't answer to it.
• 38:25
  Uh I I have not.
• 38:26
  Um yeah, yeah.
• 38:29
  So I can't speak to it.
• 38:30
  But what you describe is uh is wow.
• 38:35
  Uh and you know, none of that information is reported in the media, even to the point of that movie you're speaking about, and the way you described it, Anthony, and what it is.
• 38:46
  Uh I mean, that would be in itself, and what you just described would be a massive story, massive headline.
• 38:52
  I mean, to what degree?
• 38:54
  And you're right, he they have taken Netflix, they're very involved in all that culture stuff.
• 39:00
  Um, and and that's kind of what I seen.
• 39:02
  I seen him as a real cancer for our nation.
• 39:05
  And by Biden was clearly his puppet.
• 39:07
  There's no doubt about that.
• 39:09
  The same cast of characters were around them.
• 39:11
  Everybody was ridiculously denying this and playing like fools.
• 39:15
  I mean, and somehow they thought we would believe this.
• 39:18
  I mean, come on.
• 39:19
  Yeah, and and the media played along with it.
• 39:22
  Is there's the media so disgusting in this country?
• 39:25
  I I I I don't I don't ever use the word hate, but that is one group I would tell you I probably hate, you know.
• 39:31
  I don't know.
• 39:32
  They deserve your hate.
• 39:33
  We don't hate them enough, I don't think, because people still I don't know why people still turn them on.
• 39:38
  I mean, thank God Joe Rogan's audience is like 30 times the CNN viewership.
• 39:42
  So is this weird?
• 39:44
  They still have this cache of this power, though, from the legacy that they've left.
• 39:48
  And driving the headlines, driving the headlines, driving the narrative, driving the narrative.
• 39:52
  They still drive the narrative, and even though we know they've lied countless times about really important, like life and death things.
• 40:00
  Purposely knowingly lied.
• 40:01
  It wasn't like they made a mistake and had to retract.
• 40:04
  No, no.
• 40:04
  And they never retract.
• 40:05
  And by the way, they never apologize.
• 40:07
  Nobody ever gets in trouble.
• 40:08
  You know, you and I got banned and censored, shallow banded demonetized.
• 40:13
  We were trying to tell the truth.
• 40:14
  Or just asking questions.
• 40:16
  They're purposely lying and they're rewarded with this.
• 40:19
  Yeah.
• 40:19
  Yeah.
• 40:19
  You know what else is even weirder than that is that we uh not only does it happen the way you just described it, Anthony.
• 40:27
  And uh, you know, but then while it while I noticed media recently, um call it whatever you want.
• 40:37
  I don't know what you want to call it, conservative media.
• 40:38
  I'm not even sure if that's a term or whatever, but uh I know it is to some people, but uh and uh they would take all their time, or you know, whether whether it's a uh OAN or Fox News or any of these, uh sort of I I guess you probably would call them.
• 40:53
  I'm uh I I guess you'd probably call them what a little right of center, maybe right of maybe a little bit of right of center, maybe.
• 40:59
  I mean, I don't think they're conservative conservative, and they're not over here, probably right of center, right?
• 41:03
  I guess.
• 41:03
  Yeah, that sounds right.
• 41:04
  I guess maybe and uh but I I hear them uh the the just this past week here uh on there.
• 41:11
  Um, and it isn't bad enough that they drive the narrative and get all the headlines as you say there, but they then take these cats like they were trying to describe the new Joe Rogan, this uh woman who has such a trash mouth that she looks like if you compare her to Rogan, it would Rogan would be a choir boy in church with his um uh mouth or whatever that is, if that was a problem.
• 41:39
  Um you can't understand her conversation because it's it's and you have to when they're beeping when they were playing her on the news, they were beeping every other third word, beep at a beep and a beep and a beep and the beep and beep and beep.
• 41:52
  You you just couldn't make there was that was the narrative.
• 41:55
  Very angry woman, very disgusting, very very Satanist, and trying to, she's gonna be the left's new Joe Rogan.
• 42:02
  What because she knows how to swear, because she knows how to profanity, because she's you know an idiot.
• 42:08
  I mean, what what makes her that?
• 42:10
  And you know, you see this stuff, and then you see Rogan, and he's another one F bombs all over the place, uh blow smoke a cigar against a guest face, uh, bourbon down.
• 42:19
  I mean, it's like uh this is like, you know, this is what the attraction is to people out there, I guess.
• 42:25
  I I find it ridiculous.
• 42:27
  I I just uh I don't even see what the point is, you know.
• 42:30
  Yeah, it's a circus, but it's you know, it's the it's the deliberate dumbing down of society of people's attention spans.
• 42:36
  I was talking to a writer, I work with some people that write for or pitch stories and series to the streaming platforms, and they're being instructed by them to uh make sure you make the story very obvious.
• 42:50
  You have to write the story now as if you assume the viewer is also on their phone while they're watching the show.
• 42:56
  Yeah, so they're half they're only half paying attention.
• 42:59
  So that's why you watch these Netflix shows, and you said this looks like they're speaking down to me like I'm an idiot.
• 43:03
  Like it's like watching some.
• 43:05
  I was watching some detective show with my fiance, and she said, This is like a Nancy Drew, you know, it was like so it was so obvious, and everything was so over the top, and just you know it's just it was insulting to your intelligence.
• 43:19
  And it's presented as an adult story.
• 43:22
  And that's what they want.
• 43:23
  That's what they want.
• 43:23
  And and uh, you know, as I see the news doing this uh to finish that thought the other day, I'm thinking that not only do those like you say, you say, Well, I don't know why they have the narrative, why they get the attention or like the the bull in the China shop.
• 43:38
  I mean, why do they get all that attention?
• 43:40
  They're they're lying.
• 43:41
  They they just it's horrible stuff, it's misinformation, it's disinformation, it's it's wrong stuff.
• 43:46
  And yet then that right of center media that you would try to tune in to get any level of existence of what might have happened in the news on that particular day.
• 43:57
  They take a good part of the program and spend it talking about the new lunatic on the left, the new female Joe Rogan.
• 44:04
  So they take uh oh, so now you're built, and they say, Well, we and then they say this, Anthony.
• 44:08
  They say, well, we hope that nobody like uh listens to her or tunes in.
• 44:14
  We don't think they're going to, but she's not really well known.
• 44:17
  You just gave her prime time, X amounts of millions of people to listen to you all talk about her uh for the last 20 minutes, and now you I mean, so we just what I'm saying is we feed into it as well with all that, you know, by talking about the narrative, I guess.
• 44:32
  I don't know.
• 44:32
  Well, yeah, I mean, that's this weird symbiotic relationship.
• 44:35
  This uh yeah, it's uh it's kind of like one does it's like a yin and yang thing, you know, like they become dependent on each other.
• 44:44
  So demonizing the other side always gets ratings.
• 44:48
  So on both sides, so it's this sort of adversarial symbiosis, you know.
• 44:54
  And um, this is a system we're caught up in.
• 44:56
  And people, I mean, I try to find people who are smart.
• 45:00
  I I mean, I don't uh you know, I I like Jordan Peterson, a lot of people don't like him, but I thought he's good, he's good.
• 45:05
  He's pretty intelligent guy, and he has things to say that are I think pertinent to you know the preservation of Western civilization.
• 45:13
  So uh there are smart people out there, and that they're talking, and um, I mean, I think he's almost dying now.
• 45:19
  Something happened to him, but uh I hope that's not the case.
• 45:22
  I hear I did hear those stories.
• 45:23
  Is he really?
• 45:24
  Do you know he is really ill?
• 45:25
  Is that he's very ill.
• 45:27
  He was in he was in ICU critical uh condition for the summer, and uh he hasn't had made a peep publicly.
• 45:34
  His wife said she thinks it's a spiritual attack.
• 45:36
  Uh-huh.
• 45:37
  It might be a political attack.
• 45:38
  I mean, they might have poisoned him.
• 45:39
  Who knows?
• 45:40
  Because what I did it's you know, uh, Charlie Kirk.
• 45:42
  We're we're in a civil war now.
• 45:43
  We're in a civil war.
• 45:45
  They have a hit list of people they want to kill.
• 45:47
  And you know, it's just happening.
• 45:50
  Well, I want to talk to you about that civil war in just a couple of moments here.
• 45:53
  I want to talk to you uh uh some other very interesting thoughts you have here.
• 45:57
  It was something interesting too about 9-11.
• 45:59
  I I and I don't ever talk about this on here, but I I just want to touch on it because something happened the other day in my world on the 9-11 business.
• 46:07
  And uh, and I I don't know.
• 46:09
  I just I just want to touch on a little bit, not not a lot, but uh touch on that a little bit and your art.
• 46:14
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• 46:18
  I gotta see it.
• 46:19
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• 46:23
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• 46:29
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• 46:31
  So let me take just a minute here and talk to uh listeners and viewers, please, uh, if I can, Anthony.
• 46:36
  And uh sure.
• 46:37
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• 46:47
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• 47:20
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• 47:23
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• 47:24
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• 47:26
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• 47:27
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• 47:31
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• 47:33
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• 47:35
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• 47:36
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• 49:12
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• 49:14
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• 49:27
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• 49:50
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• 50:52
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• 50:56
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• 50:59
  Uh that you're you learned something a little bit every day here.
• 51:02
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• 51:05
  Yeah, they were they really are.
• 51:07
  They were the green 85.
• 51:08
  I swear by it, man.
• 51:10
  I've found nothing that you can take that quick to make that kind of a difference.
• 51:14
  Uh and that product does it, it just does it.
• 51:18
  It's uh down 20, 30 minutes later, you know it.
• 51:23
  And I do I do it when I'm when I'm walking.
• 51:25
  I just it's just a ritual of mine.
• 51:26
  You don't have to do that.
• 51:27
  They just tell you to fast for 30 minutes, but I fast for hours.
• 51:31
  I do intermittent fasting.
• 51:32
  So I don't like eat all day long.
• 51:33
  I give my cells a chance to rehabilitate and good cells will will create new more good cells, and that's how you get rid of the bad cells out of your body.
• 51:41
  I swear by intermittent fast, and so I'm not one of these cats that got to eat all the time.
• 51:44
  Absolutely not.
• 51:45
  Your body's working too hard with that stuff.
• 51:48
  So, you know, but I stay fit, I get out and do my thing, and uh you gotta have a healthy immune system.
• 51:53
  Or or and if we don't have that, we're not gonna be here for the fight.
• 51:55
  You know that we're not gonna be here for the fight.
• 51:57
  So that's it.
• 51:58
  Yeah, we gotta do it.
• 51:59
  Yeah, we gotta do it.
• 52:00
  Um this um before we um uh all right, so we'll come back to that civil war.
• 52:07
  You that war you mentioned in a moment.
• 52:08
  Yeah, I'm gonna talk to you about 9-11 a moment because I'll forget this.
• 52:11
  And I'm I'm I'm not a uh you'll you'll find out for me.
• 52:15
  Um I've never had this conversation on here, and I don't have a strong opinion on it one way or another.
• 52:20
  I I just don't.
• 52:22
  Um I know a lot of people do, uh, but um uh there's a uh the reason I bring it up, there was a piece of we we we have an engineer.
• 52:32
  Uh one of our writers is a brilliant, super smart guy, an engineer.
• 52:36
  Uh and he writes some amazing pieces a couple times a week.
• 52:40
  Uh I'll just say his name is Joe Archer, very interesting guy.
• 52:43
  A little controversial at times, but uh, but that makes him interesting.
• 52:48
  And I tell some of my uh conservative folks, he it's all right.
• 52:51
  He's just he's it's he's interested.
• 52:53
  We've got to a point in our country now where people don't want to accept differences of opinions and thoughts.
• 52:58
  And see, I I don't mind that.
• 52:59
  I like to have the different, I like to bring everybody to the table.
• 53:02
  So I'm okay to uh it's okay, man.
• 53:04
  I'm just not too interested in you know, Marxism and comment so much or I drew just a couple little lines there.
• 53:11
  Anything that comes from Satan's playpen, yeah, uh not my thing, not my thing, you know.
• 53:16
  Um, but everything else I'm open to, pretty much.
• 53:18
  Even liberalism, I'm happy to talk to folks.
• 53:20
  I'm really really true.
• 53:21
  I got great friends that are liberals and democrats, and uh, I I think today they're losing their collective minds, but that is beside the point.
• 53:27
  I digress, right?
• 53:28
  Uh, so this whole uh 9-11 thing.
• 53:30
  So he's got a piece that has gone up.
• 53:32
  I don't know when people will hear this or see this, so it doesn't matter.
• 53:35
  But you you if you ever want to see it, just go up to the menu at America Loud Authors and Host and go to Joe Archer and look up that piece.
• 53:42
  And but he gets into 9-11 on there, and it's in the title and and other things.
• 53:47
  He talks about a rogue government, a rogue government, and he talks about um oh, let me just give you the damn title now so I don't screw this up.
• 53:56
  Uh oh, NGOs snap 9-11.
• 54:01
  The U.S.
• 54:01
  government has gone rogue.
• 54:03
  That's the title of the piece, okay?
• 54:05
  All right, good title.
• 54:06
  Yeah, that's the title.
• 54:08
  And uh, and and and and and he's just he's just he's not uh, you know, I don't find him out there flaking with the no, whatever.
• 54:16
  But he's an engineer.
• 54:17
  He's when I say he's a he's a classic engineer, he's a super smart guy, he's a scientist.
• 54:24
  He he knows how to do stuff, okay.
• 54:27
  He knows how to do stuff way more than I would know that kind of stuff.
• 54:32
  That's his bit that's his bellywick, not mine.
• 54:35
  But he I was when I seen this piece, I haven't seen a piece like this from him.
• 54:40
  But he's he's calling it he's he he puts the facts and points in there that he thinks this thing was a total setup from our government that it was it mechanically engineer-wise.
• 54:50
  There's no way this could have happened without being a staged event.
• 54:55
  It's like okay now.
• 54:56
  And I don't I haven't I know other people are saying that in different walks of life.
• 54:59
  I don't converse with them, and I don't have those people in my life.
• 55:02
  I'm just not a theorist.
• 55:04
  I don't yeah, um, just not.
• 55:06
  But what do you think about that, please?
• 55:07
  And what's your thought theory?
• 55:08
  I got to talk to you about this.
• 55:09
  What is it?
• 55:10
  Some point.
• 55:11
  Do we have time?
• 55:12
  Do we have time for my 9-11 story?
• 55:14
  Oh, god, how big how big is it?
• 55:15
  Can we shorten it?
• 55:16
  Can we get a short because we have other things to talk about too?
• 55:18
  Give me this, give me the short summary, strong version.
• 55:20
  So I lived in downtown Manhattan when 9-11 hit the first plane that hit actually woke me up.
• 55:25
  I was up late the night before.
• 55:26
  I thought a truck had rammed into my building.
• 55:29
  Wow, looked out the window, I saw smoke coming from the twin towers.
• 55:32
  I proceeded to go to my roof, and I watched all three towers fall perfectly into their footprint that day.
• 55:38
  But I completely again, I was a naive kind of guy, 2001, and I totally bought into the official narrative.
• 55:45
  They you know, they found the passports of the hijackers, even though everything else was reduced to ash, they found these paper passports a block away.
• 55:51
  Oh, how convenient.
• 55:52
  So the people are all disintegrated, but the passport survived.
• 55:56
  The plane was good.
• 55:57
  I didn't I didn't know that, by the way.
• 55:58
  Oh, yeah, you can look it up.
• 55:59
  That's so I I became like a scholar on this because what happened was I got an assignment from the village boys.
• 56:05
  Uh to just the piece was about um, it's called fakes on a plane.
• 56:10
  It was a piece about all these 9-11 truth documentaries, right?
• 56:15
  So we went into this piece.
• 56:17
  Basically, we're gonna make fun of these guys, the tinfoil hat wearers, right?
• 56:20
  So as part of my due diligence for the assignment, I watched all these films.
• 56:25
  And by the end of the films, it was architects, engineers, like you say, physicists, uh, scholars, uh, historians, uh, ex, you know, uh military intelligence guys.
• 56:37
  I mean, these were not stupid people, and they're all pointing out the obvious flaws.
• 56:44
  It was like it falls apart, just like the COVID narrative, where the same kind of thing.
• 56:49
  It totally falls apart on any scrutiny, any scientific scrutiny.
• 56:53
  The laws of physics were not obeyed that day.
• 56:55
  So something happened.
• 56:57
  And I that piece that I did is I it's on my website, but I um I basically it's unfortunate me going through that awakening process.
• 57:04
  It was another one of my moral crises moments.
• 57:07
  And the piece is now in the permanent collection of the 9-11 museum because uh I I sent them a letter saying you need to have pieces into the challenge, the official story.
• 57:16
  Oh, so they did it.
• 57:18
  To their credit, they did it, yeah.
• 57:19
  But we we went to the movie, we went to the um the curators were very nice.
• 57:23
  They interviewed us, we filmed the whole thing.
• 57:25
  Okay, and then we put it up on YouTube, and they threaten us with legal action if we didn't delete it.
• 57:31
  So we never deleted it, and they never sued us.
• 57:33
  But who's they?
• 57:33
  Who's they?
• 57:34
  The uh 9-11 museum.
• 57:36
  Okay, so I knew you had something in the museum I read.
• 57:38
  I heard that in a producer gave me that no, but I did not uh know what it was.
• 57:43
  I did not ask.
• 57:44
  I like the spontaneity of the conversation here, so I don't ask all this stuff in advance.
• 57:48
  I just don't know, but that is wild that they put it in there to accept the other narrative.
• 57:55
  Uh, I find that fascinating.
• 57:56
  Well, it's part of the permanent collection.
• 57:58
  I don't know where it is.
• 57:59
  It might be like in a urinal somewhere about the wall.
• 58:04
  Well, like in uh Raiders of the Lost Doc, it's like a damn this big thing on the ground, they put it in a dark somewhere, you know.
• 58:10
  They say it's part of the rotating show, but I haven't seen any rotation, so I don't know.
• 58:14
  Well, they made you feel good at least.
• 58:16
  They made you feel good.
• 58:17
  They were very nice.
• 58:18
  All right.
• 58:19
  So you you think there was so you like Joe believe there's something more to the story then, very clearly, right?
• 58:25
  If you go to architects and engineers for 9-11 truth, they have all the scientific research and data.
• 58:32
  Like I'm not a scientist, I'm just a guy who drove pictures, but it's very compelling arguments.
• 58:36
  All right, all right.
• 58:37
  Well, we have we have multiple scientists on this network for sure.
• 58:40
  Brilliant, smart people.
• 58:42
  Uh, one time we'll talk about this, and I'd love to have you guys make a note of this in the back here, please.
• 58:48
  Uh uh producers and uh I'd love to have Anthony back on when we do that with uh some of these other folks who uh also think something really happened like that.
• 58:57
  And and maybe we all use it as a learning experience and learn so I because I just don't know enough to know.
• 59:02
  I haven't spent a lot of time there to um you know dive deep into that world to know.
• 59:08
  But uh there are people who believe it uh in fact.
• 59:12
  There's a movie called Loose Change.
• 59:14
  You could start with that.
• 59:15
  Oh okay, all right, all right, all right.
• 59:18
  Well, and you know, I'm just thinking about it, Anthony.
• 59:20
  I think, and I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
• 59:22
  I think my college daughter, I think she, and I had not really talked to her about this story, but I think she maybe thinks it wasn't a thing that it didn't happen in the way we think it happened.
• 59:33
  And I don't see she's a theorist either, but I don't know why I think that, but I think I heard her say that recently.
• 59:39
  Yeah, there's a growing, there's a growing awareness of it and consensus.
• 59:43
  I mean, I I can't believe it took you know 24 years, but it is starting to gain some traction.
• 59:48
  Yeah, yeah.
• 59:50
  All right.
• 59:50
  So uh and you're you mentioned uh it's a covert in the Wuhan lab is a very good example of a rogue government.
• 59:56
  Uh, we we won't go into that today at all, uh, either here.
• 59:59
  All right.
• 1:00:00
  Before we get to your art, I so for me, I want to talk about that, but I want to talk about this.
• 1:00:06
  Uh, if we take what we talked about in the first part of the program, brother, and we move that forward to this moment here.
• 1:00:12
  Um I mean, uh I uh you're well informed on the issues, and you have a good sense.
• 1:00:19
  And the thing that's unique about you as well that I really uh like and admire is your life journey, where and a lot of people, this should be able to relate to Anthony's story, because a lot of people are liberal thinking and Democrats and the lot of the young people, although Trump did make a lot of a lot of hay through the last election, but a lot of those people could easily go back.
• 1:00:39
  Then you see all the protests on the college campuses, you see a lot of the uh the the support on the terrorists, which you you just can't connect the intelligent brain cells in your mind to figure this stuff out, and it's really happening in our country.
• 1:00:50
  It's really really happening.
• 1:00:52
  You know, that's the worst part about it.
• 1:00:54
  Um it was like surreal seeing all that happen in real time, uh, as this was happening.
• 1:00:59
  It was actually embarrassing that this was happening in our country to I was I felt like you know, really, I don't know.
• 1:01:05
  It happened at my teacher at FIT, and it happened.
• 1:01:07
  I saw the protests go rogue at my college, and it was these kids their their anger and their sense of righteous, you know, moral crusade has been misdirected into the wrong place.
• 1:01:20
  Yeah, you know, I mean, millions of Christians being slaughtered all over Africa, and nobody cares, nobody even knows.
• 1:01:26
  No, it's happening and it's happening in you know, right now the focus is on Nigeria, has been in recent weeks and months, as you know, but actually it's happened in a whole lot of countries.
• 1:01:34
  Yeah, and that is in the if you connect, and you know where this goes, and it's another day for another talk here somewhere.
• 1:01:40
  But you connect those dots and do all of that, brother, and then you connect it to uh Seattle and New York City, and you're connected to the whack-a-moles that are happening all over our country now, and you begin to understand that we are pretty well under attack here, are we not, Anthony?
• 1:01:56
  Yeah, like I said before, it's it's the long march through history through the institutions, and they're coming to the end of their march.
• 1:02:03
  That they're they're emboldened by the success of uh Mamdani and Sadiq Khan, and you know they're Islamists and radicals become overrepresented in the body politic.
• 1:02:17
  So five percent of a population could be 50 percent of the legislature.
• 1:02:21
  It's happening right here in Patterson, New Jersey, and then they institute Sharia or the leftist institute Marxist policies, and um it's happening with they're not some fringe movement that we could laugh at.
• 1:02:31
  You can't laugh at AOC anymore, you know.
• 1:02:33
  She could be president because they've lurched to the left and they've lurched into the mouth of Islam.
• 1:02:39
  Yeah, and we have to take them at their word.
• 1:02:41
  There was thousands of guys when Madame got elected at Times Square screaming, this is how we're gonna take over the country with ballots, not bullets.
• 1:02:49
  Yep, yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:52
  I can say we have to give equal measure of determination.
• 1:02:56
  Yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:57
  I hope people take your serious your your warnings, your thoughts there.
• 1:03:01
  Uh there's a lot to take from that.
• 1:03:02
  Uh, we know we're we know there are some real challenges on the table here with our nation at all.
• 1:03:07
  Um, what do you think?
• 1:03:09
  Uh as far as uh is this coming this long march and all where we're at right now and the things that are happening.
• 1:03:14
  Uh, have we totally I mean, all right, we have we totally lost control at this point, all control or we're still in the fight.
• 1:03:20
  We still uh but you said we gotta wake up.
• 1:03:22
  Um is a civil war in our forecast.
• 1:03:25
  Is something else gonna happen in our country?
• 1:03:28
  Uh, because we are getting to a weird place.
• 1:03:30
  As an example, even in recent weeks and months here, um, the Democrat politicians uh went ahead and um uh do are doing TikTok videos and Instagram videos and various videos, and they're putting them out there.
• 1:03:45
  These are probably these are elected officials now.
• 1:03:47
  Uh that's swear to the constitution and take an oath and so on and so forth.
• 1:03:51
  And uh they are telling our military to um step down, don't follow the commander in chief's um marching orders uh and push against the system and so on and so forth.
• 1:04:01
  That is uh that that is tyranny right there.
• 1:04:04
  If there ever was, that is an insurrection if there ever was.
• 1:04:07
  Uh where are we headed?
• 1:04:08
  Yeah, yeah, we're headed for you know, Fort Sempter civil war.
• 1:04:11
  It's gonna be a different kind of civil war, it's gonna be skirmishes on the ground, you know, antifa shark troops facing, you know, some the Proud Boys or whatever, you know, it's gonna be like that for a long time.
• 1:04:22
  But they you know, we're in this sort of young way where each side has projecting the things they hate about themselves onto the other.
• 1:04:33
  So you see projection everywhere.
• 1:04:35
  You see the left accusing the right of what they're doing, and you see this this like symbiosis of hate that I spoke about before happening in the political uh sphere.
• 1:04:45
  But I think the answer it is that we have to realize this is not a political battle, this is a spiritual battle.
• 1:04:52
  We have to get right with God instead of going on the street screaming about things, you need to look in the mirror and screaming yourself and say, you know, how can I be a better person?
• 1:05:00
  How could I get closer to God?
• 1:05:01
  How can I how could I live my life as a good person?
• 1:05:06
  Because your routine becomes your character.
• 1:05:08
  If you're washing porn and getting high all day, like you're destroying your life.
• 1:05:12
  The devil's winning on a personal level.
• 1:05:15
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:16
  You know, as you were talking to us there, brother.
• 1:05:18
  Um Chris had blown you up, and we could see you're pretty good, your art in the back and all.
• 1:05:24
  And it's funny, you're talking about faith and God and everything at that point, and the art behind you is just so resonant of that.
• 1:05:29
  It's just so perfect, beautiful.
• 1:05:31
  I love the eclecticness of it all, and um the messaging uh is very, very strong.
• 1:05:36
  So that was very purposeful that that happened there.
• 1:05:38
  Let's talk about uh you now and your art.
• 1:05:42
  So because you're you your uh footprint uh when I started to see the work you were doing uh was so impressive.
• 1:05:49
  Um you have a real talent, brother.
• 1:05:52
  Not that I'm telling you anything.
• 1:05:53
  You don't know, you have a career that goes with that as well.
• 1:05:56
  Yeah, look at the talent.
• 1:05:57
  Look at the oh my wow.
• 1:06:00
  Wow, tell us about this piece.
• 1:06:02
  Tell us about them.
• 1:06:04
  Uh so that the piece that before that was um Christ and the Antichrist, and you see the technocracy and the robot and um I think AI, so you know, we have the Holy Spirit, if you believe in this sort of overarching force of light and good and God's grace that informs Christendom.
• 1:06:24
  Uh and now I think AI is formed by the obverse of that.
• 1:06:29
  But this darkness is demonic force that we're giving giving life to.
• 1:06:36
  We're uh making it incarnate through this AI technology.
• 1:06:40
  So the tech is allowing this demonic force and these entities to become alive and to become self-conscious and to become powerful.
• 1:06:49
  So I think that that balance of light and dark, like we're that's the spiritual battle.
• 1:06:54
  So spiritual battle is it's spiritual, but it's being engaged in now in like a technological sphere in a political sphere.
• 1:07:00
  Yeah, but the overarching spirit is spiritual.
• 1:07:03
  We have to understand when you understand that things start to make it's a spiritual battle, it's a good and evil fight.
• 1:07:08
  Keep keep them moving, Chris, so we can see more of them, please.
• 1:07:10
  Um, yeah.
• 1:07:11
  Uh let's go to the next.
• 1:07:13
  Yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:14
  Uh everything I do is about duality because I think that helps you understand the world as above, so below and the inversion principle and um light and dark, good and evil, because uh those contrasting themes.
• 1:07:28
  I mean, as a as an image maker, visual communicator.
• 1:07:32
  Uh the best thing to do is to take two disparate ideas and merge them into one.
• 1:07:37
  And in that in that space, that dynamic tension, something interesting happens.
• 1:07:41
  Well, that that that's a good description of our nation right now.
• 1:07:44
  If we could do that with our nation, something might come out of that.
• 1:07:47
  Yeah, that's a great way to put it because yeah, instead of instead of just you know, having this illusion that we're separate.
• 1:07:52
  I mean, yeah, we're not separate.
• 1:07:54
  It's like it's like the one Siamese twin trying to kill the other one, like kill your you kill your brother, but you're gonna die too.
• 1:08:01
  Right, right, right.
• 1:08:02
  When you designed the art piece for what we just described and did, give me some credit for that, please.
• 1:08:07
  Okay, just a little bit.
• 1:08:08
  Go ahead.
• 1:08:10
  That's gonna that's gonna be a very patriotic piece, by the way.
• 1:08:13
  Go ahead.
• 1:08:13
  Uh uh, keep keep them.
• 1:08:15
  What's what's it keep them moving here?
• 1:08:16
  I want to see some of the other stuff here.
• 1:08:18
  Uh now, what are some of the other themes you you brought you uh do?
• 1:08:21
  What did some of the other things?
• 1:08:22
  Is this your shop?
• 1:08:23
  Is this in your shop all this?
• 1:08:24
  Or is this at my shop, yeah.
• 1:08:26
  On my website, there's my Instagram page has uh everything I've done over 40 years.
• 1:08:31
  I kind of oh wow.
• 1:08:32
  Well, I I do some sculpture that was sculpture, but I um you know, like any good artists, I hope.
• 1:08:38
  What's this?
• 1:08:38
  What's this one here?
• 1:08:39
  This is cool.
• 1:08:39
  I love this.
• 1:08:40
  This I this I painted on a I got this giant, really cool old vintage school board, right?
• 1:08:46
  Uh classroom school slate, and I just started painting and drawing on it, and it was from a dream.
• 1:08:51
  I love this one.
• 1:08:52
  I love this one.
• 1:08:53
  Yeah, and love this.
• 1:08:55
  What's this?
• 1:08:56
  Yeah, so that's you know, this this illusion that we're engaged in this um mind prison.
• 1:09:02
  And um we have we we're like locked in our own prisons that we had the key to it all the time, and the key is God, and the key is us connecting with God and connecting with that that infinite within us, the divinity within us.
• 1:09:16
  And we have to lean into that light.
• 1:09:19
  Look at this.
• 1:09:20
  Look at this, yeah.
• 1:09:22
  Yeah, yeah.
• 1:09:23
  I the the duality, I love that you do that.
• 1:09:27
  Is because as an artist, you have to have a unique um dimension to you, typically.
• 1:09:32
  I I believe, you know.
• 1:09:34
  Oh, this is like great work.
• 1:09:36
  See, I love whimsical art, first of all.
• 1:09:38
  So you're you're like, this is like um like candy for me.
• 1:09:42
  This is like, you know, you know, when you were showing the camel cigarette guy back there that you were designing with the camel back in the day, right?
• 1:09:50
  Yeah.
• 1:09:51
  Um, by the way, you probably heard about this artist.
• 1:09:53
  I collect Marcus Pearson, you know, Marcus Pearson.
• 1:09:56
  Yeah, you're with the coyote series, right?
• 1:09:59
  Right?
• 1:09:59
  Yep.
• 1:10:00
  I love the coyote series.
• 1:10:01
  I wish I had them close by.
• 1:10:02
  They're in my other rooms and stuff.
• 1:10:04
  I've got them.
• 1:10:05
  I've got some great Marcus Pearson pieces.
• 1:10:06
  And what I love about Marcus Pearson is he writes uh he writes an inspirational piece with it.
• 1:10:12
  There's always uh a point of reference to the piece the from a narcissistic.
• 1:10:15
  I love that that he that becomes part of the piece, the message.
• 1:10:19
  I've got two amazing pieces.
• 1:10:21
  I have some originals of his and others on the wall where it's got it's the piece, the words are descriptive right in there and I just love it.
• 1:10:28
  Uh he's one of my favorites here.
• 1:10:30
  Um, I'm a big Dr.
• 1:10:31
  Seuss fan.
• 1:10:32
  It's one of I'm huge Dr.
• 1:10:34
  Seuss fan.
• 1:10:34
  I I've got every book.
• 1:10:36
  Oh, there, oh, there's Pearson there.
• 1:10:37
  Yeah, there's Marcus Pearson right there, the coyote series that sets me on a on a Saturday night with a little bit of red one.
• 1:10:43
  Hello, how are you doing, folks?
• 1:10:44
  You know, uh, but anyways, uh there that's your day off.
• 1:10:47
  That's my day off.
• 1:10:48
  You bet, you bet, you bet.
• 1:10:50
  Um, but um yeah, Pearson is incredible.
• 1:10:53
  I have every book Dr.
• 1:10:54
  Seuss ever wrote, his uh children's book and his adult books, by the way.
• 1:10:58
  Yeah, uh everything he ever did.
• 1:11:02
  He did stuff during the World War II, and he did some um adult you know themed stuff.
• 1:11:06
  He's adult theme stuff through the wars.
• 1:11:08
  I've got everything.
• 1:11:09
  I wish I had met him in person.
• 1:11:10
  I wish I had interviewed him.
• 1:11:12
  Uh maybe I'll get to do that in the next life going forward.
• 1:11:15
  I don't know.
• 1:11:16
  But uh Theodore Seuss Geysel is his name, and uh Audrey Gazelle is his wife.
• 1:11:22
  Um, and uh they were out of Springfield, Massachusetts, by the way, is where their museum is still today, in fact.
• 1:11:28
  Yeah, yeah, fascinating.
• 1:11:29
  Um, but Marcus Pierce is really cool.
• 1:11:31
  Uh again, the the whimsical part of it, but the messaging behind the storylines and uh very inspirational about love, about life, uh about tragedy, about opportunity.
• 1:11:43
  Uh, but that's life, it's about everything, you know, it's about everything that's out there.
• 1:11:47
  Um now with your work, do you sell um I'm curious?
• 1:11:50
  And I I don't know this, and I'm asking you for uh reasons so we know do you do you sell like prints?
• 1:11:54
  Do you sell originals?
• 1:11:56
  Do you sell?
• 1:11:56
  Tell me what how you do it, please.
• 1:11:58
  Uh both you go to my website, there's a Shopify link, and you can buy uh prints, affordable prints, or you can buy original art, or you can buy um well, you commission me to do a portrait or whatever you're interested in.
• 1:12:11
  You know, we can work, we can collaborate for really individualized specific piece of art.
• 1:12:18
  Okay, okay, all right.
• 1:12:20
  All right, and and uh and you're and and this is is this your big business?
• 1:12:24
  Is this your business now?
• 1:12:25
  Is this just keep you moving forward?
• 1:12:27
  Creating the art.
• 1:12:28
  Well, yeah, I mean, uh I do a lot of stuff pro bono for people I think are doing good work, you know, journalists, researchers.
• 1:12:34
  Um, but I also uh my work because I gotta pay the bills too.
• 1:12:39
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:40
  And um I teach at FIT and I teach I I teach a mentorship class, personal mentorship and um career guidance for young artists.
• 1:12:49
  So I um I do a little bit of our talented years.
• 1:12:55
  So I'm looking at this work, I says, You are really talented here.
• 1:13:00
  I love this work here.
• 1:13:01
  This is you're very this is high on my list, yeah.
• 1:13:04
  Very high on my list.
• 1:13:05
  Uh and and I hadn't studied it.
• 1:13:07
  I'm glad Chris just brought them all up now so we can see them.
• 1:13:10
  Uh, very, very impressive.
• 1:13:12
  I'm gonna check the shop out now.
• 1:13:14
  And my wife and I'll go look at it and see, and then I'll talk to you.
• 1:13:18
  And uh, yeah, it's very cool stuff.
• 1:13:20
  Um, wow, wow.
• 1:13:22
  And to think you were doing all that, you learned so much over the years in your work uh for the stuff you were doing, you know, back in the day.
• 1:13:29
  Um, and now you use all this now.
• 1:13:32
  Uh I gotta ask you something here.
• 1:13:34
  Um, okay.
• 1:13:36
  Uh part of my mission, I've stated to you reaching uh some of the people on the opposite uh that think differently from me and you actually think differently over here.
• 1:13:48
  I've got friends like that, actually.
• 1:13:49
  People I I actually love, but I just think they're a little screwed up in the brain somehow.
• 1:13:53
  I don't know what's going on.
• 1:13:55
  I really don't.
• 1:13:55
  I hope they hear this.
• 1:13:57
  Uh no, no names to be mentioned, Joy, uh, by the way.
• 1:14:01
  So no names to be mentioned.
• 1:14:03
  I'm gonna tell her to watch this program and she'll flip.
• 1:14:07
  Uh just love her, love it.
• 1:14:08
  She's been a friend for many years, but somehow she has TDS, she has TDS, yeah, and uh in a big way, and uh she just thinks he's uh but she's listening to garbage and she watches these programs.
• 1:14:20
  She was watching a podcast that I didn't even I didn't never even knew it.
• 1:14:23
  I I just don't follow this garbage.
• 1:14:25
  And um it's uh I forget the name of it now, but it's one of the top podcasts.
• 1:14:29
  It's a liberal, it's crazy, it's way not liberal, it's like way over here.
• 1:14:32
  And she thinks it's like like the cornerstone of everything that's true.
• 1:14:36
  Every day they get on and whack Trump and something he did or didn't do or something, it's like nuts.
• 1:14:41
  Your brain cells are tripping backwards, man, when you do that stuff.
• 1:14:44
  Like, come on, you know, yeah.
• 1:14:45
  And uh, you know, but we where you were younger, where you had this uh where you went, you're you're just a marvelous life experience of where you were.
• 1:14:53
  And I see a lot of people like that in that way, and yet you've come full throttle in a way that you see life differently.
• 1:15:00
  You're uh very interesting thinker and a conservative thinker, but a lot of it to me is logic and probably to you today is logic, common sense.
• 1:15:07
  We go, well, Trump even branded common sense in the last inaugural address, common sense and uh very logical to us, but yet it's not logical to a lot of these people.
• 1:15:16
  How do we reach more of those people from your experience from your life?
• 1:15:21
  How do we reach them and bring them across to the beauty of the diversity of America?
• 1:15:27
  How do we do that, brother?
• 1:15:29
  Uh it's very difficult because they're so deeply entrenched in their ideology and they're very reactive.
• 1:15:36
  My own mother found out I was working for RFK, and she said, I can't believe you're working for RFK.
• 1:15:42
  He hates vaccines, he's anti-science, he's crazy, and like and so I know on a personal level.
• 1:15:48
  Um, that is it's very challenging because she watches the view, my mom.
• 1:15:52
  I love your mom's your mom's a democrat.
• 1:15:54
  She's a liberal.
• 1:15:55
  Yeah, but I think we have to, on some level, like love these people.
• 1:16:01
  Yeah, and it is hard as it is.
• 1:16:03
  It's so hard to love your enemy because they hate us.
• 1:16:07
  But if we don't at least we've tried hate, it's not working out so good.
• 1:16:10
  So what if we tried love?
• 1:16:12
  I know it sounds corny, but I don't know what else to do because you can't you can give them all the facts in the world.
• 1:16:17
  I could give my mother all these facts that RFK is science-based, and he his research is solid.
• 1:16:23
  They they can't let go of that idea.
• 1:16:26
  You can't hit them intellectually, it has to be almost either spiritually or emotionally out of a place of love and compassion because they're victims because I have to remember, I used to think, you know, like they did.
• 1:16:38
  So that's why I'm saying, yeah.
• 1:16:40
  So but I think maybe because I'm an artist, uh more receptive to other ideas, and you gotta have a thick skin, you know, in this business because yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:49
  You know, I think I have a thick skin.
• 1:16:51
  Like I know how people want to kill me.
• 1:16:52
  They hate me.
• 1:16:53
  That's the same as me, same as me.
• 1:16:55
  So that's I don't take anything personally.
• 1:16:57
  I don't take me, oh, you know, why are you here?
• 1:16:59
  Like, why are you on my page?
• 1:17:00
  Tell me over and over again you hate me.
• 1:17:02
  It's like I get you hate me.
• 1:17:03
  Okay.
• 1:17:04
  Uh that doesn't bother me.
• 1:17:06
  But it does when it's personal, it's your family, you know, and it it really it's really hurtful.
• 1:17:11
  And a lot of families are suffering from this culture clash.
• 1:17:16
  And um, it's really an intractable problem.
• 1:17:18
  And I think, well, if you want to get into theories, I I've noticed that whatever COVID, either the disease itself or the vaccine, did something to people's brains because people are not as smart as they were five years ago.
• 1:17:31
  Just look around you, believing people I know something happened.
• 1:17:35
  They can't they can't well, there is truth to that.
• 1:17:37
  There is some truth to that with brain fog and some of the injuries of the brain, the brain cells.
• 1:17:41
  There is some logical truth to that, by the way.
• 1:17:44
  Yeah, that I'd love to see because I'm just saying anecdotally, like I knew there was like all my heroes are gone, man.
• 1:17:50
  I got I have but the here's here's the thing.
• 1:17:52
  Like, I have new heroes now.
• 1:17:53
  You know, I lost my old heroes at COVID because everybody lost their minds and they guesslit me to say that I'm crazy, and that I should be censored and bangs screaming at me and on this, yeah.
• 1:18:03
  I walk you walk into a restaurant, and if you don't be masked on, they scream at you, but then once you sit down, you're fine.
• 1:18:08
  It's like, wait, you just wanted to kill me saying I'm killing people.
• 1:18:12
  Like COVID knows if I'm staying there or sitting, like this is the logical.
• 1:18:16
  And when I would say it's a logical, they would say I'm crazy.
• 1:18:19
  You know, when COVID was happening, you're gonna love this.
• 1:18:22
  We went out for my wife and I and my two kids.
• 1:18:25
  Uh they um they were uh well, it's a few years ago, so they weren't in college yet.
• 1:18:30
  Uh so high school, they were still older kids, you know, high school kind of thing, you know.
• 1:18:34
  And uh yeah, we were going out for dinner.
• 1:18:36
  Um whatever night it was, you know, the weekend.
• 1:18:39
  Uh and uh COVID was in full throttle and people going crazy and all, but uh we're going out for dinner, whatever.
• 1:18:44
  I didn't do the masking or any of that stuff, what have you, and uh, you know, so we uh we're gonna have reservation to a place we went to often and often it's very nice place, and we get up there and they wouldn't let me come in.
• 1:18:55
  Uh they wanted us to wear masks, and they said, Well, you have to wear masks to walk to the table.
• 1:18:59
  And then when you get to the table, you can take them off and do your thing, but then you gotta take them and put them on when you come out.
• 1:19:05
  I said, What?
• 1:19:06
  Yeah, they said, You have to wear them to go.
• 1:19:08
  I said, I'm not putting your mask on.
• 1:19:11
  Well, sir, you yeah, that's our policy.
• 1:19:13
  Said, well, and this is a place I frequent, and this and they knew me.
• 1:19:17
  And I said, Well, let me tell you my policy as a customer.
• 1:19:20
  I like that.
• 1:19:21
  Yeah, let me tell you my policy right there.
• 1:19:24
  Yeah, and so uh Anthony, and uh, you know, so then I um I uh we we didn't um go in there.
• 1:19:32
  We didn't go in there, right?
• 1:19:34
  And I left and I said to kids, and I called another place and I said, Do you are you requiring the mask thing?
• 1:19:40
  And I or we maybe we drove to the second one.
• 1:19:42
  I don't know, and we we didn't get in either again.
• 1:19:44
  And there was a third one, and we didn't get in there.
• 1:19:47
  Finally, I called a play.
• 1:19:48
  It's I said, This is nonsense.
• 1:19:50
  So they all required masks and all this.
• 1:19:51
  I you know, there's a place that might not.
• 1:19:53
  I'm thinking it's right near the river.
• 1:19:55
  Nice, real cool place to hang out, and it's off the beaten pass, so no one's gonna really know.
• 1:19:59
  Yeah, I think I'll
• 1:20:00
  Call of them and say, hey, and you know, and they they knew me again and said, you know, we've been there many times, it's been a while.
• 1:20:06
  And I said, uh you you require the mask thing when you come in there and all that.
• 1:20:10
  She said, No, she said, we're not doing any of that.
• 1:20:12
  I said, Great, I'll be right over for dinner.
• 1:20:16
  And we went right over, right?
• 1:20:18
  Uh I love that you said let me tell you my policy.
• 1:20:20
  And I say the same thing to YouTube.
• 1:20:22
  I violated your community standards.
• 1:20:24
  Like, no, you're violating my community standards because you're lying and censoring and shadow banning and without any due cause.
• 1:20:33
  You're violating the standards of Western civilization.
• 1:20:38
  So we you know, we gotta flip it around.
• 1:20:40
  Yeah, we gotta flip it around.
• 1:20:41
  That is a perfect way to say it.
• 1:20:43
  Do you have a book out too?
• 1:20:44
  Do I do I have that wrong or do you?
• 1:20:45
  Uh it's not out yet.
• 1:20:46
  Um putting together a monograph of my work.
• 1:20:49
  Oh man, 40 years of uh subversive thought crimes, but uh coming soon, coming soon.
• 1:20:57
  All right, I didn't know if you had one.
• 1:20:58
  I don't know why I uh even asked that, but I thought maybe there was one.
• 1:21:01
  You have such a story to tell.
• 1:21:02
  I figured you must have something, you know.
• 1:21:04
  Um, yeah, I've been thinking just recently.
• 1:21:06
  I said to my wife, I said, you know, I gotta write this book before next July because we're gonna be doing something special in July, Anthony.
• 1:21:14
  Uh, for uh nobody knows this, but by the time people see this and hear this, they will know it.
• 1:21:20
  Uh, in 2026, we will be well, I'll just tell everybody now.
• 1:21:23
  This will be the first place you're you might be hearing.
• 1:21:25
  Well, but it depends when you heard this or when you when you've seen it.
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  But we will be having a major event in 2026 in July.
• 1:21:33
  By the way, our country uh turns 250 years old, our semi-quincentennial as a nation.
• 1:21:39
  Yep.
• 1:21:40
  And America Out Loud turns 10 years old.
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  2026.
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  We launched it in 2016.
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  So we'll culminate in those two magnificent moments, and we're having a uh a big event, a two and a half day event to celebrate right there on July 2nd, 3rd, and 4th in Nashville, Tennessee.
• 1:22:01
  Sounds good.
• 1:22:02
  I'll be there.
• 1:22:03
  I hope you will.
• 1:22:03
  I hope you will bring some of your art with you, please.
• 1:22:06
  And uh, but uh we are having that is gonna be a phenomenal time.
• 1:22:10
  There'll be some interesting things happening.
• 1:22:12
  You'll be hearing more and more about it.
• 1:22:13
  It'll be up on the site, and a lot of people will be seeing this.
• 1:22:16
  It will it will sell out, it'll be a big deal.
• 1:22:18
  Uh, we're taking the whole hotel over downtown there.
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  Uh, it's gonna be quite fascinating.
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  It's gonna be fun.
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  10 year celebration and 250 years of this magnificent country that we're fighting for every day.
• 1:22:30
  Uh, yeah, there are so many things we can talk about, my friend.
• 1:22:34
  And uh it's just you're I really impressed with your just everything.
• 1:22:38
  It's the first time I met you, but I'll tell you what, I surely hope it's not the last, man.
• 1:22:42
  Uh, you have a great story to tell, um, really and truly, Anthony.
• 1:22:46
  Um, and your work uh that you've done and and the fight we're on, the fight of good and evil.
• 1:22:52
  That's we're kindred spirits in that fight, aren't we?
• 1:22:55
  You know, amen.
• 1:22:56
  Amen.
• 1:22:57
  You know, it's the animating contest of liberty is eternal.
• 1:23:01
  Yeah, I'm grateful that you uh spent some time here with me on this project, uh, Project Out Loud as we do this a little differently than a lot of the media, not uh grandstanding for the camera or acting like lunatics or using language or uh blowing smoke.
• 1:23:16
  Yeah, uh I appreciate the opportunity.
• 1:23:19
  Thank you so much.
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  And it's really really a great pleasure, honor to meet you.
• 1:23:23
  It's a privilege here.
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  We'll do it again here.
• 1:23:24
  Anthony Frieda, uh privilege here.
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  And uh okay, friends, that's a wrap.
• 1:23:28
  You know the uh the the story at this point, and check out Anthony's site as well.
• 1:23:33
  Uh what's the what's the website, real quick, Anthony?
• 1:23:36
  Anthony Frida.com.
• 1:23:37
  Okay, Anthony Frieda, F-R-E-D-A dot com.
• 1:23:41
  Yeah, is where you get the uh check it out, please, and go look at some of the stuff he's doing.
• 1:23:44
  It's got quite a story here.
• 1:23:46
  Uh, we all can uh do that and uh maybe support this guy a little bit too be cool.
• 1:23:50
  So uh friends, that's uh that's it.
• 1:23:52
  That's a wrap here.
• 1:23:53
  Thanks for joining us here on Project Out Loud.
• 1:23:56
  It's time to get involved and get loud America.