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Christians, Churches Are Being Targeted; Is Your House of Worship Prepared? · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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Speaker 1: And here we go. It is the third hour and
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Speaker 1: it's the first Wednesday of the month. It's July second show,
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Speaker 1: fifty four six of the Morning Show with Preston Scott.
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Speaker 1: He's Jose, I'm Preston and this, Ladies and Gentlemen is
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Speaker 1: the one and only Charlie Strickland of the Talent Training Group,
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Speaker 1: co host of Talent Outdoors.
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Speaker 2: Hello, good morning, how are you. I'm doing fantastic.
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Speaker 1: Tell everybody about the camo because I was just telling
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Speaker 1: you the camo is is that's sporty stuff that looks good.
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Speaker 2: Somebody coming on We were wearing camo and on one
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Speaker 2: of our TikTok videos from our show and somebody said
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Speaker 2: it was what credit? I mean? Oh man?
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Speaker 1: Was it was?
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Speaker 2: It's rough. You put yourself out there on that and
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Speaker 2: you get some insults. And I said, that's coming from
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Speaker 2: somebody wearing camouflages inside and I was thinking, so what
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Speaker 2: do you take yours off when you go inside? Or
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Speaker 2: what are you trying to say? No, but this is
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Speaker 2: a game Guard brand of shirts to Texas and we like, uh,
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Speaker 2: the put our logos on theaseily real comfortable, and we'd
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Speaker 2: sell the brand. It's the only thing only clothing. We
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Speaker 2: sell our stores branded stuff for talent. We're not trying
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Speaker 2: to get into clothing business. But uh, they had this
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Speaker 2: Texas version of Camo that we saw on one of
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Speaker 2: our hunting trips and and I didn't really like that
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Speaker 2: that version, and it came out with this digital version
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Speaker 2: and it's pretty cool.
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Speaker 1: It's it's unlike a lot of Camo that I've seen,
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Speaker 1: because a lot of Camo is big, broad patterns. This
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Speaker 1: is more intricate, right, more detailed.
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Speaker 2: It's just it's different.
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Speaker 1: It's like brush. It's a brush cameo.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's the digital camos are have a
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Speaker 2: different visual look. I mean, actually, I'm just using a
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Speaker 2: lot of words. Whatever. It looks cool. Yeah, how about that?
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Speaker 1: It does looks good.
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Speaker 2: And uh, we did the Hunter Orange logo on it.
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Speaker 2: It's just where are we talking about?
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Speaker 1: Well, because we are we a renaissance show, we talk
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Speaker 1: about anything and everything around.
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Speaker 2: Oh man, let's talk about hurting people. Yeah, especially bad
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Speaker 2: people in particular. I don't want to hurt anybody else.
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Speaker 1: I was just talking about and I don't know if
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Speaker 1: you caught it on the way in the Story of
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Speaker 1: a Pastor in Arizona that literally a guy broke into
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Speaker 1: his home and crucified him. I heard that and had
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Speaker 1: a hit list of other pastors.
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Speaker 2: I know.
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Speaker 1: There is intelligence that I got I was privy to
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Speaker 1: that showed that there is active surveillance going on inside
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Speaker 1: Christian churches large and small across the country from people
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Speaker 1: that are just simply surveilling what the church does and
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Speaker 1: how they do it. We don't know why, it's just happening.
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Speaker 1: And then we have the active shooter situation in Michigan.
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Speaker 2: Well, there's a fine line between religious fanaticism and mental illness.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's strong beliefs for one thing, but when
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Speaker 2: you want to hurt other people for them and you're
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Speaker 2: doing that, I mean, same thing on the right and
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Speaker 2: the left. I mean, there are crazy people everywhere, and
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Speaker 2: mental illness is a crisis in this country, and we
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Speaker 2: don't people. We don't put people away anymore. We don't
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Speaker 2: hospitalize them and pull them out of society. We leave
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Speaker 2: them roaming the streets, living in homeless camps and living
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Speaker 2: in neighborhoods.
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Speaker 1: And the number was seventy six percent of the people
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Speaker 1: homeless in the country are dealing with mental health issues.
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Speaker 2: And they roam the streets of Tallahasseelans County every day
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Speaker 2: all day and they're violent and people go, oh, poor them. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: well poor you if you're not careful, because you know,
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Speaker 2: you never know what's going to flip the switch. Yes,
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Speaker 2: and in the Michigan shooting, you know they're saying, well that, well,
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Speaker 2: we believe this meant this man suffered from mental illness.
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Speaker 2: Well yeah, you think. I mean, he didn't leave any
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Speaker 2: kind of he didn't leave anything behind to explain what
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Speaker 2: his political agenda was. He remember, he'd been there a
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Speaker 2: few times and he and you say, okay, well we
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Speaker 2: have a church security team. Anybody that goes here, they
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Speaker 2: would never come here because they would know that we
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Speaker 2: have a church security team. Well he probably should have
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Speaker 2: known that, and he picked a fight that he was
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Speaker 2: that they were ready for. And see, that's what encourages me.
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Speaker 2: I mean, the tragedy of the event and the events
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Speaker 2: like this, and it was a Southerland Springs thinks, you know,
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Speaker 2: and that's what this guy was trying to emulate. He
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Speaker 2: was going back and that's this these you see things,
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Speaker 2: and that's why I don't like to publicize names and faces.
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Speaker 2: And thank you to that because I used I used
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Speaker 2: the faces of my active shooter courses to show that
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Speaker 2: there there's a variety of people, but I don't we
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Speaker 2: never say their name. So he saw what happened out there,
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Speaker 2: and I think he was trying to emulate that because
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Speaker 2: he set it up the same way. I'm going in
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Speaker 2: with a long gun and a handgun body armor. I'm
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Speaker 2: going I'm going to shoot up front of the church
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Speaker 2: and I'm going to make entry. Well, he didn't get
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Speaker 2: that opportunity because those people in that particular church were ready.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about that Michigan situation, because in this case
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Speaker 1: there were active members of the security team that were involved,
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Speaker 1: but also a deacon that just was late to.
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Speaker 2: Church absolutely showed up, saw a person with a long gun,
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Speaker 2: of handgun and body armor going towards the church and
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Speaker 2: start shooting at the church and said, you know what,
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Speaker 2: I may not have a gun, but I've got a
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Speaker 2: four thousand pound full wheel weapon here. People just need
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Speaker 2: you need to understand that when deadly forces justified deadly
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Speaker 2: force of any kind, I mean you can drop a
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Speaker 2: bomb on them if you had one. You get in
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Speaker 2: trouble for having the bomb, But you know, ATF may
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Speaker 2: get involved, but the fact is is deadly force is
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Speaker 2: deadly force. Running someone over with the vehicle is a
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Speaker 2: very very viable option for you if such situation presents itself,
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Speaker 2: and in this case, it did. I will tell you that.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I am very armed, and I am very trained,
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Speaker 2: and I am very prepared to help out in a situation.
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Speaker 2: But I mean, I know, you know, situational awareness, and
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Speaker 2: I go over things in my head, and I'm still
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Speaker 2: a law enforcement officer, and I still think like a
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Speaker 2: cop and always will even when I decide I don't
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Speaker 2: want those standards anymore. And I think about it. If
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Speaker 2: I'm driving down the interstate and I see a trooper
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Speaker 2: up ahead and he's involved in a shooting and he's
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Speaker 2: taking cover behind his car, and there's somebody there shooting
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Speaker 2: at the trooper, I'm running that dude over. I've already
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Speaker 2: played it over in my head. I know what I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna do. I mean, And that's that's how you react
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Speaker 2: quickly as you think about it. I wonder if that
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Speaker 2: person at the church that hero saved countless lives by intervening.
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Speaker 1: Were children performing a children's program.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I wonder had that person ever thought
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Speaker 2: about that situation or did they just pull that out
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Speaker 2: of the air when the time occurred. I'm thinking that
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Speaker 2: he probably considered it before, because it's hard to come
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Speaker 2: up with stuff like that on the spur of the moment,
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Speaker 2: it really is. I mean, so, I think that person
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Speaker 2: probably had considered what would I do if? And so
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Speaker 2: for all of the listeners out there, what would you
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Speaker 2: do if something like that occurred? And are you what
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Speaker 2: are you prepared to do to save lives? And what
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Speaker 2: are you physically and mentally prepared to do in any
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Speaker 2: situation that might come up? And I don't want you
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Speaker 2: to beat yourself up and walk around thinking, oh my lord,
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Speaker 2: what would I do if I go, you know, sitting
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Speaker 2: in a movie theater? What would Yeah? But I do
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Speaker 2: want you to consider the fact that where's the exit?
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Speaker 2: How many people are between you and there are you
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Speaker 2: close to? What? Do you? You know? Just just go
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Speaker 2: over it and then you get that pencil, that peace
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Speaker 2: of mind knowing that I have a plan, and you
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Speaker 2: can then relax a little bit and go I mean, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I sit in a restaurant with sort of facing the doors,
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Speaker 2: I sort of see what's coming and going I'm not
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Speaker 2: freaked out. I'm not being paranoid exactly. I just now
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Speaker 2: can settle in and feel a little more peaceful and
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Speaker 2: a little more relaxed, and i can enjoy my time
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Speaker 2: with my family because now I'm not concerned about what
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Speaker 2: was that noise I'm having to look over my shoulder.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not a paranoid life style. It's a
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Speaker 2: prepared lifestyle. And in churches, everybody in a church should
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Speaker 2: should be ready for that in case.
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Speaker 1: In the case of this shooting in Michigan, what's interesting
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Speaker 1: to me is not just the actions of the deacon
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Speaker 1: that hit him with the truck, but that that wasn't
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Speaker 1: all that ended it. The guy survived being hit by
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Speaker 1: the truck and was preparing to fire again, and that's
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Speaker 1: when the security team dispatched him.
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Speaker 2: Right. And if your church or your temple, or your
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Speaker 2: synagogue or whatever your house of worship is, if you
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Speaker 2: don't have an armed security team, then you are just
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Speaker 2: waiting to be a victim, or if you don't have security.
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Speaker 2: I have a security company and we work security at
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Speaker 2: local places houses of worship. And then there are the
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Speaker 2: people hire off duty law enforcement, and people have armed
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Speaker 2: teams as you very well know. And if you don't
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Speaker 2: have those things in place, it's like the school guardian
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Speaker 2: program would mean, if you don't have armed people in
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Speaker 2: the schools, if you don't have if you don't if
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Speaker 2: you if you hire security to work your business, and
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Speaker 2: you want I want unarmed security. Why you just want
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Speaker 2: somebody to get shot first? Because it's not gonna stop anything.
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Speaker 2: It's not. It doesn't, it doesn't do anything. And I
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Speaker 2: struggle with the concept. You know, I teach active shooter
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Speaker 2: all the time for large organizations. And right now, with
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Speaker 2: everything going on, we're getting phone call.
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Speaker 1: And we are back Charlie Strickland of the Talent Training
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Speaker 1: Group with me our personal defense segment. We're talking about
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Speaker 1: the active shooters scenario in Michigan. What are specifics you said,
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Speaker 1: You've been getting plenty of calls, and I don't doubt
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Speaker 1: that at all. This segment sort of started based on
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Speaker 1: all of that.
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Speaker 2: Yes it did. And thank you for all of the
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Speaker 2: all of the publicity over the years, because it's you know,
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Speaker 2: I remember when this started with you. It was it
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Speaker 2: was it was just an idea to start talking about
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Speaker 2: how people could be safer in the community and over all,
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Speaker 2: of these years, and it's been a lot of years. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I like to think we've made a difference in a
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Speaker 2: few people's lives. And certainly, you know, so what happened
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Speaker 2: after the FSU situation and the Michigan situation is that
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Speaker 2: and now you've got dambush firefighters and all this going
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Speaker 2: to You've got constantly and I part of my presentation
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Speaker 2: when I do active shooter training, and here's the thing is,
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Speaker 2: you can get active shooter training in a thirty minute
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Speaker 2: video online. You run hide fight there. You got that.
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Speaker 2: I saved you twenty nine minutes right there in forty
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Speaker 2: five seconds. You just run, hide, slash, barricade fight. That's
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Speaker 2: the jest of it. And you can bring in law
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Speaker 2: enforcement agencies and they do a fine job. I do
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Speaker 2: a less sanitized version. Yeah, you do a little less
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Speaker 2: politically correct. I'm not offensive, don't get me wrong. But
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Speaker 2: I talk about the things you have to do in
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Speaker 2: real life. And I talk about situational awareness, and I
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Speaker 2: talk about mental preparedness, and I talk about threat to
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Speaker 2: and I talk about what happens to us in critical
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Speaker 2: incident stress. All the things that we've covered over on
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Speaker 2: the show over the years and I try to cram
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Speaker 2: it into ninety minutes. I've got one organization wants in
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Speaker 2: an hour. Some I talk fast, but I'm going to
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Speaker 2: cover all the material. And you know it's it's from nonprofits.
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Speaker 2: I've said in my I've sat in my studio and
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Speaker 2: did nine states worth of nonprofits in a zoom meeting
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Speaker 2: one time for for active futer training.
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Speaker 1: It's mind if I laugh at that for a second,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to make fun of whoever the group is
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Speaker 1: it says they want it in an hour. That was
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Speaker 1: much to help us save our lives. But we need
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Speaker 1: you to do it.
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Speaker 2: It's it's a scheduling issue and it's takes a half hour.
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Speaker 2: But I can, I can, I can. I can do it.
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Speaker 2: I just have to cut out the jokes and the
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Speaker 2: and the and the good times, and I have to
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Speaker 2: focus on the task at hand. But I've done it before.
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Speaker 1: What are the most important considerations? There are people listening
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Speaker 1: right now. They're part of houses of worship, They're part
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Speaker 1: of businesses and organizations that really need to be thinking
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Speaker 1: about this, and probably are. Whether they're talking about it
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Speaker 1: is another.
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Speaker 2: Story somebody there is.
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Speaker 1: So what what are the first considerations.
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Speaker 2: For let's okay, focus on houses of worship. First, you've
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Speaker 2: got to get past whoever is in charge of this organization,
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Speaker 2: be it a pastor some You've got to talk to
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Speaker 2: that person and try to get buy into the fact
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Speaker 2: that we need to protect this house of worship. We
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Speaker 2: need to protect our own. There are people there that
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Speaker 2: can't protect themselves. We owe it to them. Period. So
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Speaker 2: once you can get the idea that we need to
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Speaker 2: do something, then you need to make a decision. There's
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Speaker 2: three ways you can go about this. One you can
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Speaker 2: hire law enforcement to be there. If you have the
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Speaker 2: budget and the size of an organization to do that.
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Speaker 2: It's probably north of fifty bucks an hour. Now you're
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Speaker 2: getting somebody in on a Sunday or whatever day you're at.
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Speaker 1: Well, you really need you need more than someone, You
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Speaker 1: need more people.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's yours. That's plan A A uniform presence,
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Speaker 2: you know, be it armed security or law enforcement. I
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Speaker 2: mean you can those are your hire a mercenary to
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Speaker 2: come protect your place. That's what you're doing. You're getting
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Speaker 2: us older a fortune to come in there and get
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Speaker 2: paid to protect your house of worship. But that's just
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Speaker 2: the outer perimeter, Okay, But if you don't want to
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Speaker 2: go that router, you can't afford to spend the money,
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Speaker 2: then what you need to be doing is building your
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Speaker 2: own safety team. Now, is this team going to be
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Speaker 2: armed or unarmed? Well, if it's unarmed, you probably quit
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Speaker 2: listening to converse. You probably don't listen to this show
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Speaker 2: because your mindset is somewhere else. And if you're not
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Speaker 2: willing to arm yourself to protect, if you're not willing
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Speaker 2: to protect the lives of people by taking a life,
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Speaker 2: then you know we're not okay. Get you some bare
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Speaker 2: spray and put stack five people at the door and
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Speaker 2: tackle anybody. You don't know. I don't know what else
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Speaker 2: to tell you. I mean, it's dangerous. But once you've
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Speaker 2: approached the subject and you've decided we're going to do
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Speaker 2: something with armed citizenry in here within the organization needs
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Speaker 2: to just think about are we going to do this
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Speaker 2: as an organization and get insurance and do all this,
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Speaker 2: or are we going to have an informal team who
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Speaker 2: is going to do this on their own, which is
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Speaker 2: perfectly fine, not endorsed by the organization, So we don't
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Speaker 2: have to worry about the the the insurance now, because
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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter in the criminal courts one way or
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Speaker 2: the other. Use of forces, use of force, it's justified.
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Speaker 2: The it's not in castle doctrine. Stands your ground. Castle
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Speaker 2: doctrine is not going to apply to church. It's going
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Speaker 2: to be standing your ground. Were you in reasonable fear
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Speaker 2: of death and great bodily harm, you know, for yourself,
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Speaker 2: for others, and did you act reasonably under the circumstances.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's it's fairly simple. And once you
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Speaker 2: decide that we're going to do something, then you need
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Speaker 2: to have a conversation with that team, have someone in
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Speaker 2: charge coordinate training, talk about what your policies are, talk
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Speaker 2: about how you're going to encounter people who are not
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Speaker 2: offering lethal force. You know, how you're going to de escalate,
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Speaker 2: how you're There's all these things you get into and
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Speaker 2: it's a long conversation. But you know, once you've broached
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Speaker 2: the subject of how are we going to approach this,
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Speaker 2: then you start putting the pieces of the puzzle. Now
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Speaker 2: we can help with that. I mean, advice is free.
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Speaker 2: I mean training costs money, but advice is free. And
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Speaker 2: plus we'll still go out and look at your place
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Speaker 2: and give you some ideas. I mean, you always call
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Speaker 2: and talk to us. I mean, I'm happy to give advice.
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Speaker 1: Let's get to it. Thirty six past the hour Charlie
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Speaker 1: Strickland two more segments here in our personal defense. We've
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Speaker 1: got a question we're going to get to in just
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Speaker 1: a few minutes. But first I shared with Charlie a
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Speaker 1: news article from Fox News and something we talked about
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Speaker 1: a few weeks ago on the show. And it's this
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Speaker 1: new trend of jugging, is what they're calling it. But
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Speaker 1: it's just the same old thing, just doing it again.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a term that I think on our show,
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Speaker 2: Fred would have a good time with.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure Fred would have a good time.
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Speaker 2: Sending to gutter. So yeah, so it's nothing new. It's
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Speaker 2: just that it's a trend and they've come up with
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Speaker 2: a term for it, and it's like anything. And here's
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Speaker 2: the danger. So what this is is people watch you
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Speaker 2: go to an ATM or a bank or somewhere where
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Speaker 2: you're retrieving a bunch of money, and they follow you somewhere.
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Speaker 2: So it's not at a protected area where there's a
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Speaker 2: lot of cameras, and they will follow you home or
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Speaker 2: follow you to work or follow you wherever.
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Speaker 1: The example in there was to a gas station to
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Speaker 1: get out of the car and get a soda.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and then they rob you and they steal whatever
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Speaker 2: cash valuables that you have retrieved, and that's that's a burglary.
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Speaker 2: It's an arm robbery. It's and then the thing is
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Speaker 2: it doesn't always include use of force. You get out
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Speaker 2: of your car and walk over to do something, they
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Speaker 2: jump in your car and grab whatever you had, whatever
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Speaker 2: you left there. And so there's nothing new about this,
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Speaker 2: but the fact that it's a trend and it's now
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Speaker 2: has a name that's going to catch on and people
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Speaker 2: it's like the TikTok challenges and the stupid stuff that
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Speaker 2: people do because they see it online or they hear
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Speaker 2: about it. And when we publicize stuff like this, you know,
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Speaker 2: like you know, the news media making a big deal
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Speaker 2: out of it. Hey, it's this new robbery trend. Well,
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Speaker 2: it's going to be a trend now because it's in
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Speaker 2: the news. You know, it's it's it just it could
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Speaker 2: have been a local thing, but it'll it'll the And
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Speaker 2: then that you say, this is something that's like active
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Speaker 2: shooter stuff. You know, Hey, I want to outdo that. Guy.
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Speaker 2: That guy. So yeah, this is this will be a
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Speaker 2: new term. So to combat it, well, first off, be
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Speaker 2: aware that it's going on.
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Speaker 1: I was just going to say, this is what we've
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Speaker 1: said from the beginning of these segments, situational awareness.
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Speaker 2: Just be aware of what's going on. First off, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: this is happening. Okay. The same thing with being bumped
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Speaker 2: in traffic and pulling into a parking lot and somebody
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Speaker 2: running up and robbing you. All they did was bump
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Speaker 2: you to get you to pull over because you were
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Speaker 2: required by law to pull over and exchange information. They
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Speaker 2: run up and rob you or steal your car and
17:33
Speaker 2: put you out in the street. And that happens, and
17:35
Speaker 2: you know, it used to happen a lot more, but
17:37
Speaker 2: it still goes on in this country. And all these
17:39
Speaker 2: things happen in phases. The one thing that does happen
17:42
Speaker 2: almost daily in this community is people leaving firearms in
17:44
Speaker 2: their car and they're not locking their car up and
17:46
Speaker 2: they're getting their firearms stolen. So you know, lock your
17:48
Speaker 2: vehicle and take your gun into your house, and so
17:54
Speaker 2: this stuff you need to be looking around you. And
17:57
Speaker 2: if you go and you handle cash on a regular basis,
18:00
Speaker 2: My Stepmam used to work at the phone company Marian
18:02
Speaker 2: and at the end of the month, everybody would come
18:04
Speaker 2: in and pay their phone bill and she would walk
18:07
Speaker 2: three buildings down to go to the night drop after
18:09
Speaker 2: hours with both one hundred thousand dollars in an envelope.
18:12
Speaker 2: And I'm like, if I ever get broke, I know
18:14
Speaker 2: where I'm going to go. You know. So you've got
18:18
Speaker 2: to be aware of the situation you're in, and then
18:20
Speaker 2: you need to look around and need to be you
18:22
Speaker 2: need to see it. Is somebody following me out of
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Speaker 2: parking lot, is somebody watching me? It's you know, with you?
18:28
Speaker 2: And then what are you justified in doing? Keep in
18:30
Speaker 2: mind you're justified and using deadly force or someone's committing
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Speaker 2: an armed felon, a violent felony against you. An armed
18:37
Speaker 2: robbery is in fact, that burglary of your vehicle while
18:41
Speaker 2: you're in it. They're attempting or to force an unlawfully
18:44
Speaker 2: enter you're occupied conveyance. Deadly force is authorized. Maybe you
18:48
Speaker 2: don't shoot them, but you can drive away and if
18:49
Speaker 2: you run over their foot, so be it. And we'll
18:52
Speaker 2: be looking for the limping guy. I mean, you know,
18:54
Speaker 2: put out a bolo for the guy with a limp.
18:56
Speaker 2: So look around you and pay attention. I mean, that's
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Speaker 2: how you combat this. Law enforcement's gonna catch these folks,
19:04
Speaker 2: but it's up to you. Only you can prevent arm robberies.
19:11
Speaker 1: Situational awareness.
19:12
Speaker 2: That's it.
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Speaker 1: It's a common theme. We're going to make a record
19:14
Speaker 1: and have somebody put music to it. Get Billy Dean
19:17
Speaker 1: to put some music to it. Situational awareness. Charlie jd
19:22
Speaker 1: JD and pressed, Oh, what a trio.
19:26
Speaker 2: That would be probably listening right now, so probably this
19:28
Speaker 2: is a time of day.
19:29
Speaker 1: JD listens all right, forty one almost forty two minutes
19:32
Speaker 1: past running a minute late here, that's all right, we
19:34
Speaker 1: got time. It's my show. As so long as I
19:36
Speaker 1: don't take time from Glenn Beck, I'm fine. I can
19:39
Speaker 1: take as much time as I need. Until then, we
19:42
Speaker 1: are joined by Charlie Strickland of the Talent Training Group.
19:45
Speaker 1: He co hosts Talon Outdoors, heard Saturdays on these fine
19:48
Speaker 1: radio stations. And Charlie, we got a phone call, according
19:51
Speaker 1: to Jose, from a listener. Jose, what did the listener
19:54
Speaker 1: want Charlie to address? All right, so the young lady
19:58
Speaker 1: wanted to know what what does she do with unused
20:02
Speaker 1: and unwanted ammunition?
20:05
Speaker 2: Okay, well, there's a couple of solutions. You can turn
20:07
Speaker 2: it into the sheriff's office and they will destroy it
20:11
Speaker 2: for you. Okay if you just I mean.
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Speaker 1: Is old? How old is old?
20:17
Speaker 2: Am Well? Another thing you can do. You can bring
20:19
Speaker 2: it to us and we'll take care of it for you.
20:21
Speaker 2: We'll destroy it. We're not going to resell it or
20:23
Speaker 2: give it to anybody else, but we'll look at it
20:24
Speaker 2: if it's worth shooting, and we'll use it for training
20:26
Speaker 2: or something. But you know, nine times out of ten
20:29
Speaker 2: that stuff comes in and we dispose of it ourselves.
20:33
Speaker 2: So it's not age, it's conditioned. Okay. If it's stored inside,
20:39
Speaker 2: it can be very old and still be good. If
20:42
Speaker 2: it's not exposed to humidity and the elements and the
20:44
Speaker 2: boxes haven't gotten wet. You know, it's humidity and oil.
20:49
Speaker 2: If it doesn't have oil on it, then it's probably
20:51
Speaker 2: gonna be fine for a long, long, long time.
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Speaker 1: Help me out with the humidity quotion here. If someone's
20:56
Speaker 1: storing it in their garage, it's not exposed to it's
21:00
Speaker 1: in an enclosed space with air moving. Maybe they've got
21:03
Speaker 1: a fan or something in the garage. Is that low
21:06
Speaker 1: humidity enough.
21:08
Speaker 2: Probably because you know, if it's if it's like reloaded stuff,
21:12
Speaker 2: it may not hold up as well. A lot of
21:14
Speaker 2: factory AMMO is going to be fine. Yeah, okay, you
21:16
Speaker 2: know because it's it's not like. One of the worst
21:20
Speaker 2: things for AMMO is to like have excessive oil on
21:22
Speaker 2: your primers. You know, gun solvent things like that. When
21:25
Speaker 2: you're cleaning your gun. You want to take the ammunition
21:27
Speaker 2: out of magazines. When you know, when you're cleaning the magazine,
21:30
Speaker 2: if you're not cleaning the magazine, you don't have to
21:32
Speaker 2: take it out of magazine, but you don't want you
21:33
Speaker 2: don't want excessive oil on the on the face, where
21:38
Speaker 2: the in the chamber, where the round, especially where the
21:42
Speaker 2: primer is and of the bolt face. A lot of
21:45
Speaker 2: times you'll have accessive oil and stuff that gets on
21:47
Speaker 2: the primer and over time it can seep into where
21:50
Speaker 2: the primer parcket is and can make that not work properly.
21:54
Speaker 2: So I've stored AMMO and the attic and the garage.
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't reckon been putting it in a hot, hot attic,
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Speaker 2: but you know, mine's different.
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Speaker 1: But for the questioner. The bottom line is you can
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Speaker 1: get rid of it through law enforcement or take it
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Speaker 1: to the telling outfitters. Bring it to us, we'll get
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Speaker 1: rid of it the ranger the store either.
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Speaker 2: Either it doesn't matter either either whichever.
22:17
Speaker 1: All right, training tip, So follow range rules.
22:21
Speaker 2: I mean when when so this is this is when
22:27
Speaker 2: you draw it out of me. Things we talk about
22:28
Speaker 2: on the break that I don't want to talk about
22:30
Speaker 2: on the show, but you have to talk about this, okay.
22:33
Speaker 2: So the range rules are there for a reason. Don't
22:36
Speaker 2: shoot steel the target frames, don't. I mean, use your sights.
22:39
Speaker 2: If you got a long gun, make sure you're using
22:41
Speaker 2: your sights and not just I had a guy one
22:43
Speaker 2: time with a battery went dead on his red dot
22:45
Speaker 2: site and he just started shooting down range and cranking
22:48
Speaker 2: rounds into the ground and over the berm and you know,
22:51
Speaker 2: and it was it was one of those There was
22:53
Speaker 2: a rear inche and it went on down there. And
22:55
Speaker 2: I hate doing that to grown men. But when you
22:57
Speaker 2: do something that's silly, you know, eye protection people get injured.
23:02
Speaker 2: Sometimes guns blow up, you know, especially if you're doing
23:05
Speaker 2: your own hand loads. Wear closed collar shirts particularly. We've
23:09
Speaker 2: had a couple of situations that I'm very I'm familiar
23:11
Speaker 2: with where someone their wives didn't wear a closed collar
23:15
Speaker 2: shirt and there's something called cleavage and a hot round
23:18
Speaker 2: down there will make you do silly things, and that
23:21
Speaker 2: happens regularly. I know of a couple instances where someone
23:25
Speaker 2: suffered a book a gunshot wound because their wife had
23:30
Speaker 2: that happen. You're kidding, No, not kidding.
23:32
Speaker 1: So the discharge shell went inside the cleavage and the
23:38
Speaker 1: reaction to it's hot, yeah, okay, and the reaction to
23:42
Speaker 1: that caused the discharge.
23:43
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know what it feels like to get
23:46
Speaker 2: a hot round in my cleavage, but I do know
23:48
Speaker 2: what a piece of hot steel when I'm wedding feels like,
23:51
Speaker 2: and it'll let me do stupid things and having a
23:53
Speaker 2: gun in my hands not that's not a good time
23:55
Speaker 2: for that.
23:55
Speaker 1: So people have been accidentally shot, yes.
23:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean people have been sho drawing from
24:01
Speaker 2: their holster, reholstering, their finger on the trigger. There's so
24:04
Speaker 2: many ways as you can injure yourself or your spouse,
24:08
Speaker 2: so just be careful, follow the rules. Finger off the trigger, okay.
24:15
Speaker 2: When when when we have people come out and we
24:17
Speaker 2: look and it's not necessarily a thing with guys, but
24:20
Speaker 2: with ladies it is. We want you, we want to
24:22
Speaker 2: wear a closed collar shirt, but we're not going to
24:24
Speaker 2: We're not gonna make you. And I certainly don't want
24:27
Speaker 2: to pick one out at the range and go, ma'am
24:29
Speaker 2: you need I'm not because then the husband goes, why
24:32
Speaker 2: are you looking? Well, I'm just trying to save you
24:35
Speaker 2: from being injured shot if that occurs, you know, and
24:38
Speaker 2: it's absolutely you know, I totally get it, but things happen,
24:42
Speaker 2: So follow range rules.
24:44
Speaker 1: Thank you, appreciate you coming in. Good to see.
24:46
Speaker 2: You, good, see thank you.
24:49
Speaker 1: It's just gonna wait long enough for you to offer
24:51
Speaker 1: that one. See the clock. I don't know what's going
24:53
Speaker 1: on over It's like I'm believing you. We're gonna we're
24:57
Speaker 1: gonna talk. Another'd say good you too, but I wasn't sure.
25:02
Speaker 1: All right, Charlie Strickland with us from the Talent Training
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Speaker 1: Group our personal Defense segment here on The Morning Show
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Speaker 1: with Preston Scott