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8-18-26 Hour 1 - Webb & Payton adjusting to new roles/ESPN Kawhi "bombshell"/How far camp has come · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: So back at it with kind of a ramp up practice.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get two good days then Tomorrow Wednesday, and then
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  Speaker 3: We'll have Chad Brown on as well as Uh, look.
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  Speaker 5: We like Chad You know why I like Chad? Why
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  Speaker 5: do you like Chad? He's a little bit of a
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  Speaker 5: later driver. I appreciate a very good later driver, I
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  Speaker 5: really do. It was a no, no, that's you. That's
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  Speaker 5: like you're a later That's exactly us why I can
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  Speaker 5: appreciate it.
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  Speaker 6: If late, if you're right on time.
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  Speaker 5: True, what would Channy say? Channy would say, well, for
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  Speaker 5: five minutes early, you're five minutes late. Wait, no, you
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  Speaker 5: just you went through this with us yesterday. Tom Conflin
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  Speaker 5: would have been like, hey, this is not what we
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  Speaker 5: do in the Pro Bowl.
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  Speaker 4: Here.
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  Speaker 6: In my defense, I live in Cherry Creek and they
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  Speaker 6: have those alleys.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And if the trash truck is there, your trash truck
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  Speaker 6: got your dust. Yeah, and you're like, Okay, he's got
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  Speaker 6: to do seventeen trash cans before icking get out of
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  Speaker 6: this alley.
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  Speaker 4: Never done that. No, you were on time. I was
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  Speaker 4: just doing the intro. You were all good, buddy.
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  Speaker 3: One of the things that that I wanted to start
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  Speaker 3: the show with. And motion know, you didn't get to
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  Speaker 3: talk about the game, but one of the things that
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  Speaker 3: me and Chad had on.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, I didn't get to talk about that meaningless preseason game. See,
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  Speaker 5: this is this is your attitude.
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  Speaker 4: This ain't me.
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  Speaker 5: That's how we choose you in all. Honestly, I was
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  Speaker 5: I was thinking. I was thinking about this, and you're right,
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  Speaker 5: I've not been able to talk about it. I'm sorry, Brett.
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  Speaker 5: I thought to myself.
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  Speaker 4: Though, how bad of the Falcons? Well, they looked bad.
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  Speaker 4: They are. I mean, I think there was a combination.
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  Speaker 5: The Broncos were ready to play football and the Falcons
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  Speaker 5: are ready to go play tickle fight.
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  Speaker 3: But to that point, moj the meaningless football game. Here's
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  Speaker 3: what's funny is that I bet you if the Broncos
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  Speaker 3: offense didn't look good, the play calling wasn't sharp, if
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  Speaker 3: they looked discombobulated at the line, you'd have a lot
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  Speaker 3: of thoughts about that.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure, I'm sure I would. But which is the opposite?
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  Speaker 3: Because they looked good and so it's like, well, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know how much that really matters. But if they
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  Speaker 3: looked bad, because he's new, I'm sure that would have mattered.
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  Speaker 5: If they looked bad, Chad, I would have been shocked
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  Speaker 5: because this is this is a damn good football team.
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  Speaker 5: It's well coached, they prepare, they are into it. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I've been watching all camp along it's moving along crisply.
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  Speaker 5: There's not a whole lot of screwing around. In fact,
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  Speaker 5: there's no screwing around going on. I don't know what's
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  Speaker 5: going on at other camps, but I expect professionalism out
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  Speaker 5: of this team, and that's exactly what we got on
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  Speaker 5: Friday night.
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  Speaker 6: So let me get this straight. Your eyeballs here at
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  Speaker 6: camp allowed you to see and trust some thing that
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  Speaker 6: the rest of us were, So we were the wrong ones.
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  Speaker 6: We were genuinely surprised by how good they look. You
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  Speaker 6: were like, dude, this is how they're supposed to look.
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  Speaker 4: I have high expectations for this team.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, I think we all do.
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  Speaker 3: You have it on the offensive side, though, because that's
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  Speaker 3: that wasn't why they won last year. I mean, their
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  Speaker 3: offense was good enough last year. Their defense was elite,
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  Speaker 3: called me cinecal and you already have.
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  Speaker 5: But unless it involves quarterback number ten, I'm not super
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  Speaker 5: I'm not.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not. Look.
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  Speaker 5: I need to see number ten out there and let's
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  Speaker 5: get that thing cranking out from the start, because these
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  Speaker 5: first six games are gonna be a pain in the tail.
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  Speaker 5: That's what that that's I'm very very curious about this
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  Speaker 5: Packers game because ten is gonna play, allegedly, and that's
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  Speaker 5: I think where you're gonna have your bread buttered and
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  Speaker 5: you're gonna you're gonna see some things. So at least,
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  Speaker 5: at least I hope that's the case. Okay, So what
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  Speaker 5: happens if they don't look good this week? I still
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  Speaker 5: won't be concerned. No, I think this is I think
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  Speaker 5: this is a good football team. Well, there's no doubt
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  Speaker 5: they're a good football team. That that part's obvious.
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  Speaker 3: I yess where I come from is, you know, not
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  Speaker 3: knowing anything about Davis Webb and his play calling duties.
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  Speaker 3: There was a bunch of people and this was first
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  Speaker 3: announced that that Sean Payton was giving this up that
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  Speaker 3: were just like, Oh cool, this will be so much better,
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  Speaker 3: And I go, what do you have the BaseT off
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  Speaker 3: of he's never done the job before, and by the way,
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  Speaker 3: you got the guy who had the job before him
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  Speaker 3: did it for like two decades to a high enough
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  Speaker 3: level where he's got a Hall of Fame quarterback under
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  Speaker 3: his belt.
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  Speaker 4: Like, there's there's a.
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  Speaker 3: Wealth of evidence of Sean Payton being very good at
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  Speaker 3: this job and no evidence for Davis web Not to
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  Speaker 3: say that he can't Chad, but it's like, that's why
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  Speaker 3: I was curious, what was that going to look like
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  Speaker 3: for the first time he went out there and actually
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  Speaker 3: did the job, and it looked smooth, which is what
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  Speaker 3: I was impressed by.
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  Speaker 6: I was one of those who was I guess confident
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  Speaker 6: without evidence is yeah, that's the definition of faith. So
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  Speaker 6: I had faith in David's web that he had been
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  Speaker 6: around Sean Payton long enough that he, as a former
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  Speaker 6: quarterback more recent quarterback, understood the importance of the run game.
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  Speaker 6: And my faith was rewarded. The run game was a
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  Speaker 6: huge part of game last Friday, two fullback runs in
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  Speaker 6: the first drive. So were things that we hadn't seen
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  Speaker 6: from Sean Payton. You mentioned the rhythm, the consistency, the
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  Speaker 6: flow of the offense, and I, you know, I put
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  Speaker 6: a little bit of an asterix on it yesterday talking about, well, yes,
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  Speaker 6: it's easy to do that when you're just calling plays
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  Speaker 6: off your script because you're only looking at your script
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  Speaker 6: once it becomes regular season mode, which we will get
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  Speaker 6: more into this weekend next week. As far as from
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  Speaker 6: a play calling perspective, that complicates things a bit. Will
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  Speaker 6: he have the same rhythm when he's got to know
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  Speaker 6: what the defense is, what personnel's on the field, who's injured,
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  Speaker 6: who's not injured, What if I already called all those
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  Speaker 6: kind of things that don't really play a factor in
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  Speaker 6: preseason game one. We'll see if he's able to be
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  Speaker 6: as smooth, as consistent, as balanced in games two.
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  Speaker 3: And three, you know, with that first preseason game and
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  Speaker 3: getting that sort of out of the way, get a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of evidence for especially some new guys on
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  Speaker 3: this roster. It's something that Sean Payton talked about yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: When he took the podium, especially about Jonah calem and
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  Speaker 3: he was somebody that said that Jonah Coleman was someone
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  Speaker 3: that looked very prepared when he first got to camp,
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  Speaker 3: that he was an NFL ready type of running back
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  Speaker 3: from the very jump, and if the college tape matched
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  Speaker 3: the tape that he put out on Friday, here's what
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  Speaker 3: he said.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, good balance, a real good elusive runner for size.
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  Speaker 2: Good I would say, good short, airy quickness, and good balance.
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  Speaker 2: And last year the other night, we had a few
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  Speaker 2: good examples of that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he had a couple of plays and Chad
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  Speaker 3: broke this down for us yesterday, most because he knows
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  Speaker 3: his his college running backs coach. But there is a
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  Speaker 3: preparation I think with Jonah Coleman that is there along
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  Speaker 3: with you know, if there's one thing that I would
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  Speaker 3: nitpick for him from that game, and this is, I
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  Speaker 3: mean the same sort of thing that you see with
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of different running backs across the league that
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  Speaker 3: get into the NFL. Pass protection is always going to
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  Speaker 3: be a problem, like it's always going to be something
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  Speaker 3: that they struggle with early. He had a couple of
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  Speaker 3: moments I think in that game where he struggled a
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  Speaker 3: bit in that department. And if there's one way to
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  Speaker 3: not to get playing time as a running back by
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  Speaker 3: Sean Payton, it's not doing sure.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you're you're right about that.
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  Speaker 5: And again, especially I think Chad, you can speak to
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  Speaker 5: this way better than me. When things start to turn
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  Speaker 5: I mean, this is all vanilla right now too, when
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  Speaker 5: things start to turn exotic, and that back has to
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  Speaker 5: pick up the right guy and he's got to help
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  Speaker 5: the right guy and so on and so forth, and
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  Speaker 5: opposing defensive coordinators start throwing some real interesting crap at
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  Speaker 5: you on any given play. That's where the learning curve,
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  Speaker 5: I think, becomes really, you know, really really steep. But
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  Speaker 5: he seems to be a smart kid, a good kid,
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  Speaker 5: a professional kid, as you said, came into camp ready
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  Speaker 5: to go. And I love that one run where he
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  Speaker 5: bounces and spins. Man, when I see your running back,
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  Speaker 5: you tell me, when I see your running back, get
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  Speaker 5: met up. But he spins out of that tackle like that,
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  Speaker 5: just slippery as a son of a gun. For a defender,
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  Speaker 5: You're like, hey, man, I had you, I had you
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  Speaker 5: wrapped up, and now you're you spun off me and
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  Speaker 5: you're gone.
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  Speaker 6: Not only is there, but we talked about it yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, but the five eight two twenty, the thickness
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  Speaker 6: of the thighs, how do you wrap your arms around that?
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  Speaker 6: Not only are you just trying to physically get your
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  Speaker 6: arms around this guy, but he can make a spin
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  Speaker 6: move as well. I just texted his college coach. Hopefully
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  Speaker 6: we can get him on. I'm not sure what the
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  Speaker 6: schedule is at the University of Washington right now, but
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  Speaker 6: I think he could speak to it far more eloquently
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  Speaker 6: than you or I could.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully we can make that happen. There's one there's
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  Speaker 3: a quote from me yesterday. I want you guys to
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  Speaker 3: listen to this. So Sean Payton was asked about his
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  Speaker 3: new role in Davis Webb's new role. And there's two
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  Speaker 3: parts to this, so I want you to hear there's
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  Speaker 3: part one in part two, but go ahead Nowie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I thought the flow was good.
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  Speaker 4: I thought he did a good job.
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  Speaker 2: The substitutions were clean, and yeah, it went pretty smooth. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: felt pretty comfortable with it. You know, all the things
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  Speaker 2: that you're looking at closely during the game, some situational
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  Speaker 2: stuff that comes up. Maybe you make a note that
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  Speaker 2: you're you're going to want to talk about. But I thought, overall,
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  Speaker 2: I was pleased with it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So the first part of this I do think
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  Speaker 3: is an important thing. He said he was smooth with
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  Speaker 3: the substitutions. If you're a member. There's a big criticism
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  Speaker 3: the last couple of years with Sean Payton that he
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  Speaker 3: almost oversubs, right, Like he gets so many guys on
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  Speaker 3: the field that it's hard to get chemistry within a
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  Speaker 3: drive when you do that. But it also if it's
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  Speaker 3: not smooth, can slow down the process during the play
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  Speaker 3: clock ticking down, all that different.
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  Speaker 4: Stuff, and then you get both doing this come out.
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  Speaker 4: Let yeah, let's go, Let's go.
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  Speaker 3: And it's felt like all of that was smoother. That's
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  Speaker 3: the first part to me. The second part, if you
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  Speaker 3: can start where they asked him again, Nelly, his feeling
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  Speaker 3: in his new role. What about your role?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, felt pretty comfortable with it. You know, all the
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  Speaker 2: things that you're looking at closely during the game, some
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  Speaker 2: situational stuff that comes up. Maybe you make a note
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  Speaker 2: that you're gonna want to talk about. But I thought, overall, uh,
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  Speaker 2: I was pleased with it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Uh, I was pretty comfortable with I still think
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  Speaker 3: it is going to be for him. I think there's
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  Speaker 3: part of him still that's like, just give me the
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  Speaker 3: play sheet, let me do this thing. He's a control freak.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't blame him at all if he felt that
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  Speaker 3: way at all.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, felt you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 6: And there's no d in situation, by the way, situational.
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  Speaker 3: It's just to me, it's gotta be a feeling with him,
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  Speaker 3: which is like he's done this every year. The play
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  Speaker 3: calling is as much of an identity thing for him
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  Speaker 3: as being the head coaches because it's what he's always done.
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  Speaker 3: And letting go of that control, I'm sure is going
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  Speaker 3: to be incredibly difficult.
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  Speaker 4: Well, Chad, last week we're talking about it.
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  Speaker 5: There's this call from game six against the Blues in
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  Speaker 5: twenty twenty two, and I'm sitting in with Connor on
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  Speaker 5: the radio, and of course I'm not calling the games
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  Speaker 5: now because it's national television, but I'm sitting in and
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  Speaker 5: I'm doing color with him and having a great time,
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  Speaker 5: and he's killing it as always. But when Darren Helm
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  Speaker 5: scores the game, when it up being the game winning
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  Speaker 5: goal at the end of game six to advance out
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  Speaker 5: of the West Finals, I stepped all over his goal
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  Speaker 5: call one of these kind of things, And I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: that's what Sean Payton. I'm sure that's what he's feeling
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  Speaker 5: like on that sideline. He doesn't know what to do
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  Speaker 5: with his hands. He's like, Okay, I'm following along. I'm
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  Speaker 5: seeing how Webb is doing this thing and and it's
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  Speaker 5: going well and so on.
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  Speaker 4: But he's got to feel like at least a little
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  Speaker 4: bit like.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Gus around his man ten seconds ago, Johnson
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  Speaker 5: over four, Logan O'Connor, Colm honk sets.
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  Speaker 4: See what an idiot you know? Because just it just
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  Speaker 4: jumps in. He sits in the color chair. He knows
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  Speaker 4: what's supposed to happen, like, yeah, lay back, let him
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  Speaker 4: finish exactly.
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  Speaker 6: But or is he the proud papa? Is he is he?
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  Speaker 6: Is he watching his protege do his thing? And is
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  Speaker 6: he reminiscent about when he was given that same opportunity? Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: so I think both can be true. I think you
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  Speaker 6: can miss it, you can want to jump in, but
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  Speaker 6: you can also sit back and be like you're doing
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  Speaker 6: a great job. That's awesome. Okay there. I would have
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  Speaker 6: done something a little bit differently. I see what you
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  Speaker 6: thought there. I think this is a learning I think
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  Speaker 6: for both parties, as it should be, with one preseason
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  Speaker 6: game under their belt, to figure out how this is
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  Speaker 6: all going to work, and is it going to be
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  Speaker 6: perfect this year?
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  Speaker 4: It can't be.
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  Speaker 6: At some point, I think Sean Payn's gonna have to
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  Speaker 6: step in, maybe for a drive, maybe for an entire quarter.
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  Speaker 6: I was in Seattle with Mike Hombron, who was the
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  Speaker 6: head coach and play caller, and sometimes Mike would get
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  Speaker 6: so twisted up emotionally he would have to hand off
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  Speaker 6: play calling to someone else in mid game, midgate, and
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  Speaker 6: so I thought that as a player on the team,
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  Speaker 6: I thought that was a weakness in our head coach.
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  Speaker 6: You gotta handle your emotions, man, so you can still
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  Speaker 6: call plays. But I think there's just a process there
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  Speaker 6: where it's not as easy as we as we're talking
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  Speaker 6: into these microphones think it is. I think is a
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  Speaker 6: lot of it involved. And if you get too emotional,
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  Speaker 6: you get too high, you get too low. If you're
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  Speaker 6: thinking about the last series, if you're Davis webbing the
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  Speaker 6: mistakes that you made and not thinking forward about the
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  Speaker 6: most important play of the game, the next play, then yeah,
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  Speaker 6: maybe you can get off track a bit and Sean
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  Speaker 6: Payton has to become the tugboat making sure the ship
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  Speaker 6: is staying straight down the shipping lane.
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  Speaker 3: Does that happen more often than we think that mid
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  Speaker 3: game you can hand over play calling duties for a
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  Speaker 3: portion of time.
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  Speaker 6: For Mike Holmgren, I would have to say it was
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  Speaker 6: a fairly frequent thing. But having been on the sideline
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  Speaker 6: with a Bill Belichick, who could certainly call offensive plays,
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  Speaker 6: who could call defensive plays, who could call special teams plays,
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  Speaker 6: there were times where Bill was silent, and there were
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  Speaker 6: times where Bill was offering suggestions, and there were times
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  Speaker 6: where Bill said, I want this play run.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So I think Sean Payton will do a little bit
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  Speaker 6: of that as of course this season unfold.
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  Speaker 3: So one of the things that we talked about was
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  Speaker 3: the fake punt calling forth down against the Bills in
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  Speaker 3: overtime that was overruled by Tyler Bidet. How do you
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  Speaker 3: think Sean Payton felt about that, where He's like, I
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  Speaker 3: have the gumption to make a call in this moment
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  Speaker 3: because I'm confident this is going to work. To be
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  Speaker 3: overruled by the fourth string running back who's the upback
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  Speaker 3: on pump protection. Do you think he was like I
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  Speaker 3: guess he saw something that I didn't, or do you
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  Speaker 3: think that he was he was like pissed at that time.
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  Speaker 6: I think he went all full Josh McDaniels from the
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  Speaker 6: famous clip on this stop making blank up. I think
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  Speaker 6: that's what he felt inside at that moment.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure because we, I mean most we talked about it.
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  Speaker 3: It's like Sean Payton, who is the dictator of this team.
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  Speaker 3: If he makes a decision like that, he is certain
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  Speaker 3: in his decision. There's no waffling on that.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I'm surprised that they Well, how about how can
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  Speaker 5: I put this to me? Would be like disobeying an
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  Speaker 5: order from Henry the eighth d Then what happens, right,
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  Speaker 5: I mean right, you get.
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: One of something? Right? I mean I would be petrified.
• 14:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, to directly contradict what the coach called for, I
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: would be I would be anyway.
• 14:51
  Speaker 6: Now he's given that spot, so he can be discerning
• 14:56
  Speaker 6: about what is the look that we have. What's do
• 14:59
  Speaker 6: I have a weird feeling, spidey feeling tingling up my neck.
• 15:03
  Speaker 6: You have that opportunity as a guy who either make
• 15:06
  Speaker 6: sure that it's on and communicates that the fake is
• 15:08
  Speaker 6: on or we're going to go with a regular punt there.
• 15:10
  Speaker 6: And so I think while Sean may be upset because
• 15:13
  Speaker 6: I had the perfect situation to run this thing, and
• 15:15
  Speaker 6: I've been planning on for it all week, and we
• 15:17
  Speaker 6: looked at one hundred and twelve possible punt fakes and
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: this is the one we loved. At the same time,
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: you also have to give your player that ability to
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: make the call on the field and that situation.
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: Do you think that he thinks it would have worked.
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, Yes, it absolutely would have worked anyway.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: But think if you lose that game, if McMillan doesn't
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: make the pick and let's say that's a completed pass
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: and you lose, he's fuming about that today.
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: Tellerbraday might not be on this team if that's the case.
• 15:46
  Speaker 6: I've yet to see a play caller who thinks the
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: play call shouldn't have worked.
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: It's the execution that you guys. It's a perfect play call.
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: You guys screwed it up.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: Yes, just because the flea flicker went twenty yards backwards
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: doesn't mean I called the wrong play.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: You messed it up. Speaking of for the first time ever,
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: I walk Well.
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: I watched the flag football gold medal game last night
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: between the USA and Italy.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: Do you watch any of that?
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: I caught the first couple of minutes.
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: All they do is backward past the entire time, and
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: then one guy just play street ball and says, everybody
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: go deep yep. I mean, I don't know whether I
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: like it or really hate it. I I'm I'm somewhere.
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: I don't know where I.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: Am on that. That wasn't our boy du set, No,
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: it was. It was some bigger, taller Now I feel
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: like I'm done than Patrick Mahomes.
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: Okay, okay, okay, Daryl, But but I mean, I can
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: appreciate some of these guys skill, but it's just a
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: bunch of backward passes and uh and then throw it
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: down the field.
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: Crazy, just crazy crap.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Adam Schefter is going to join us at nine twenty
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: this morning, a whole bunch to break down and stick around.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Back out here Broncos Park. All training camp coverage has
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: brought to you by Ramos Law. So get back to
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: the Broncos, get back to football in a second. But
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: I've been waiting on this forever and I am not surprised.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: But here is the report from ESPN. The NBA has
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: found no evidence showing that Steve Balmer funneled money through
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: team sponsors to pay Kawhi Leonard to circumvent the salary cap.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Now in this article, as I was reading, they did
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: say this. Instead, the NBA is focused on whether the
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: team's introduction of Leonard to team sponsors constitutes a violation
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: of league rules prohibiting salary cap circumvention. The league is
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: examining whether the Clippers are guilty of quote failure to
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: supervise employees, though it's unclear what specific rule the team
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: would have violated or what the penalties to other sources saut.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: So give me a moment here, because I mentioned this
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago. Mos, if you remember this,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: when I went on the Forbes and I looked at
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: the top one hundred richest.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: People in the world, in the world, and Steve Balmer was.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Numbered Sultan of Bruneye and these kind of kiss and
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: then he had Steve Bomber at number fifteen. I said,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: I bet you the NBA and the other owners are
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: terrified of his money.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: That's what it is.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: You could pull all of the money together for all
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: of these other billionaire owners in the NBA, it might
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: not reach Steve Bamber's money, and in doing that, if
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: you were accusing them and find them guilty of salary
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: cap circumvention, that's also known as cheating, and cheating is
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: something that comes with a heavy punishment, which could constitute
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: getting kicked out of the league.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: So here's the question.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: This isn't sign stealing, you know, this isn't This isn't
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: deflate deflating footballs to throw it better?
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: This is hey man, I and the punitive nature of
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: teams against these cap that that the Nuggets find themselves
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: right now immobile from a roster standpoint because of how
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: much money they have currently on their salary cap.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: This would be a big cheating scam. Now, the obvious thing.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: Is that they did this.
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: They did.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: The obvious thing is, of course, because what do you do.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: I'm sure as a player and as a radio host
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: and all the other things you benchad you've gotten endorsements before, right, Yes,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: what does.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: An endorsement do?
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: It puts the name of a famous person on your
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: product and you say, I love New Balance. That's what
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: Jamal Murray does. I see a New Balance commercial I
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: see Jamal Murray on there because he's an endorser. This
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: guy's endorsed like five different things and nobody.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: Knows about it.
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: Well, when I say I love Rocky Mountain Men's Clinic,
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: it's true, I really did.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: Did you read the Daktronics one? The latest stuff with
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Daktronics and all of that. That's the new pobble tour.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: Just Pablo has got more. Just we talked about it
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: last week. Google Kawhi and Daktronics and you'll get it.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: But here's the between that, the Aspiration Tree company, the
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Rhode Island soccer team that he owns. Nobody knew that
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: he was endorser of any of these things, which seems fishy.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Now I'll repeat this, and this is why I think
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: this is important. They got rid of Donald Sterling before
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Steve Balmer because nobody liked Donald Sterling and he was rich,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: but he wasn't that rich. All the owners came together
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: and goes get rid of this guy, and they're like, okay, fine,
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: you can't do that with Steve Balmer. You can't because
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: you don't want to get into a legal battle with
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Steve Balmer. And that's why I think this part of it.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: The league is examining whether the Clippers are guilty of
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: failure to supervise, though it's unclear what specific rule of
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: the team would have violated or what the penalties would be.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: This sounds a lot like I'm pleading to lesser charges
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: and we can let this go.
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: I just think it speaks not specifically to something, and
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: more just the generalities of powerful owners can get away
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: with anything. Yeah, Robert Craft in New England. So that
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: whole ugly episode up there, this thing where, oh my goodness,
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: we talked about this, We joked about this yesterday. J
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: Low does not drive a Fiat despite her being an endorsement.
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: This is even a step beyond that Kawhi Leonard has
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: no public connection to any of these companies as an endorser.
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: It's it distrains any form of credibility that the Clippers
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: were not clearly circumventing this hour cap to services.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: You're a professional broadcaster, now your big time college football
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: stud travel in the world and gonna do Miami in
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: Stanford week one.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: I got you. Good. Good, you don't curse? Oh there, yeah,
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: good point.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: And I never intentionally have intentionally you have done it
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: three or four times. But yeah, never intentionally. But this story,
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: I feel if Brett, I'm gonna check myself for wreck myself.
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: I feel like I might keep talking about this story.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna say a bad word on the air. Let
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: me explain. O. Hey, Chad, you're You're an idiot. Brett,
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: You're an idiot. I'm an idot. We're all just friggin idiots. Right,
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: Here's here's here's Steve Bummer. Here's Steve Bummer. Kawhi, Tree Guy,
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: Tree Guy, Kawhi. You guys have fun. Okay, I'm gonna
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: go play darts my ass, my fanny. This thing stinks
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: to high heaven. Get the Daktronics thing out there. I
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: was flaming about that about two weeks ago, week and
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: a half. Remember you take up? When were you gone?
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: Uh?
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe it.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: Was so lazy, but I was flaming about that. So
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: Daktronics makes all the scoreboards right for everybody. They're based
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: in South Dakota. They're not a direct to consumer company.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: They they are to to B to B businesses.
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: Correct.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: And so the Kawhi, allegedly, according to Pablo Torri, gets
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: hooked up with Daktronics, and somebody inside Deaktronics said, yeah, yeah.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Given him sponsorship agreement allegedly worth millions of dollars with
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: the company that designed the Clippers video board inside the
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Intuit Dome, although it was a undisclosed sponsorship deal, which
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: is always funny because I want, guys, I'm paying millions
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: of dollars to to be undisclosed.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: Just dude, I just I'm so angry about this. And
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: I look, I guess if you're the league, you're like, man,
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: if we really pursue this, the can of worms that
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: has opened up, you're never gonna get those worms back
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: in the can. So what you know, what are we
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: gonna do here? Yeah, it's like, hey, man, you you
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: caused an eight car pile up.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: You're gonna plead to jaywalking or something like that. That way.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: It just it's it's just so infuriating to me. The
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: NBA has.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: A history of doing this of I think, just blating,
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: blatantly lying to people's faces. And look, in this case,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: what's on the line here. It's a potential ownership, Yep,
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: it's potentially one of the better players in the league.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: It's a trade between them and the Toronto Raptors. That
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: is still up in the air right now, up until
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: this conclusion of the investigation, all of that's hanging in
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: the balance, along with the unknown of if they were
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: to hit Balmer in the Clippers with this. Do Balmer
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: and the Clippers start, are they ralely oda and goodfellas?
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Do they take the stand and they start pointing at
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: people saying, oh, yeah, well what about this, this and this?
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: I don't think they want any of that stuff.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: And it kind of reminds me when you go all
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: the way back to Tim donaghy and they said he
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: was the one guy and he really yeah, but the
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: one ref Nobody was looking at that refs if this
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: is true, and being like it feels like he's cooking
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: something up over here.
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: Oh my goodness. David Stern killing trades. You know, the
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: NBA's had a history of all of this. To go
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: back to Steve Balmer, there's a very famous jewelry store
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: in Seattle. I used to buy my wife's stuff and
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: I played for the Seahawks. Very nice jewelry store happened
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: to go in. Steve Balmer was there with his I
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: think maybe at that time seven or eight year old son.
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: Imagine being so wealthy that you allow your seven or
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: eight year old son to pick out mom's birthday presents
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: and to walk around the store and point to the
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: shiny things. And so he picked out like ten ten things.
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: Steve looked at the woman behind the counter and said, yep,
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: put down a car and they walked out. I don't
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: know with several hundred thousand, my wife's.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: Gonna be jewel Bomber's number like when he is getting out.
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: Uh thank me, okay, yeah, yeah, I know, Steve, they did,
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: they they must have it.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: It's just amazing.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: I remember I watched this saying this was I mean,
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: it had to be twenty years ago or something, but
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: it was. It was one of those national news station
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: specials on on Michael Jackson, and he walked into like
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: this antique show, really expensive, one of those one of
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: those one of those right that's and somebody and somebody
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: told him, yes, you bought that, you bought that already.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like you don't need you bought that already.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: I saw, that's crazy. Hey, uh Chad, we're we're playing golf,
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: right and then pond right there and you see you
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: see something swimming around out there and you say, what,
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: that's a duck, moje, I say, no, chat's a pigeon.
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: Like it's swimming, it's got a bill, it's a mallard,
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: it's a it's a duck. No, bro, that's a rock pigeon, right,
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm getting rock pigeon right now. If it
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: if it's quacking like a duck, and it it's swimming
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: like a dog, and it's you know, it looks like
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: a friggin duck. Don't tell me, don't tell me it's
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: a pigeon. Which is I'm getting pigeoned all over the
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: place here.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: I just I.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: Knew in my heart of hearts nothing would come over
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: this Brett. And again the NBA says, I guess they've
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: released something that says, well, that ESPN story is inaccurate.
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: We're still investigating this and that. Yeah, sure, wake me
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: up when anything happens, wake me up.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: It's just it's the most for a while.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the most predictable outcome of this story.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: But it is like, it's disappointing. You're just being blatantly
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: lied to.
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: You're just like, eh, And then we always have this,
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: you know thought in our head that sports are fair,
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: and I have pounded the table so many times. You know,
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: the league doesn't cheat, there's no conspiracies. The league office
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: isn't trying to make sure that this guy this guy.
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: And then stuff like this comes out and you're like,
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: oh goodness, maybe maybe there is. Yeah, maybe I've been
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: fooled and wearing blinders my entire life because I've always
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: looked at this as the ultimate form of meritocracy. We're
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: all at the same plane field, the fields level. It's
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: eleven dudes versus eleven dudes in football, five on five
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: in basketball, and it's it's it's got an element of
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: fairness baked into it. And this just busts my bubble
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: and it bothers me.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: By the way, I heard you bust up a local
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: pizza joint yesterday. Pretty good. But you aren't wrong, dude,
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: because I would do the same thing. There was one
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: right down from the old station way back in the day.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: I mean you could get a big old pizza for
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: nothing and it was delivered.
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: Was how did they make any money?
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: It was? It was amazing.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: But it got me to thinking, so what they used
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: to when they would bust, when they would bust programs
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: back in the day.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: It wasn't necessarily Hey man.
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: Uh, the coach introduced you to this big booster and he,
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: you know, got you ferrari or whatever it is. Yeah,
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: but Dey decided this is what killed SMU. It was
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: lack of institutional control. Yes, that was the big catchphrase.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: Lack of institutional control, which means you guys, you know
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: you're you, you're running the henhouse here, but you know,
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: the wolves are getting the hens, and the hens are
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: beating each.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Other up whatever they're doing.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: But they would lack of institutional control, which feels like
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: that's what they're sort of doing here with the well
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: you know, did you know did you do enough to
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: to And by the way, what where's quiet all this?
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: Why is it the league on his ass? I mean,
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't you know, I don't know. I mean,
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: I'm sure he's probably not talking. He doesn't have any
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: reason to. And if somebody's gonna give me free money,
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take free money. So I really can't blame him.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: But my goodness, gracious, this whole thing just stinks so bad.
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: And I've been furious about it for a long time
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: because if you don't have competitive balance, and you've got
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: teams that are allegedly or willing to allegedly really break
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: some major rules. Man, I'm sitting here worrying about second
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: aprons and caps and bird rights and non bird rights
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: and all this kind of crap. And this guy's hanging
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: out with a tree farm and getting paid millions of
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: bucks and and and doesn't do nothing.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: But this is this is the point. This is why
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: I for.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: There's no way he's a tree guy. Kawhi, kawhi, tree guy. Hey,
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: you guys have a great friendship. I'm gonna go over
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: here and just to I'm gonna go boogie Barton.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: To explain to people why who might not understand why
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: this is incredibly important.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: I'll just give you an example.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: The Nuggets right now are in this this sort of
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: heated contract dispute with Peyton Watson. Peyton Watson's a very
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: good young player with a lot of potential that they
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: would love to keep long term. They don't have the
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: money to give him what he wants right now, and
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: if they do give him that money, somebody else has
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: to go. But if the Nuggets went to him and said,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: how about this, you make the league minimum and we'll
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: funding the twenty million dollars through some outside company that's
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: not on the books. That is absolutely cheating. Like that
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: is straight up as cheating as cheating gets. You are
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: not allowed to do that because you were circumventing the
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: salary cap. And in this case, like, here's what I
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: don't get about Kawhi. How much more money he need?
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: He's making fifty some million dollars a year. Just do
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: a regular dorseman.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: How about this?
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: You know how nobody would ask any questions about this
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: if he was the the sponsor of Aspiration and he
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: goes Hi, I'm Kawhi Leonard and I love trees. If
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: he did that once, right, this would be no story.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: But he didn't. It's like they just sat there. It's
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: so weird. I love a good Japanese maple. You know,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: what do you guys like about Bonzie? Let me tell
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: you about Bonzis for a second. It's the It's this
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: simplest thing in the world. But the fact that he
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: didn't do anything led to all of this. It's just
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: bizarre to me.
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: The ego, the hubris in it all is. Yes, there's
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: there's so many factors in this story, but to your point.
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: For Kawhi not to at least want to play along,
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: you seemingly cover play the game. Yes, at least j
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: Loo filmed the commercial with her in the field. Yes,
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: we know she doesn't drive it down Rodeo Drive, but
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: at least she filmed the commercial. Kawhi didn't even put
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: up a YouTube short about his love for Japanese Maples
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: or Bonza.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: Think you Peyton Manning was driving a Buick. No, okay,
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: you know what. You know it's funny though.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: He looks good, and I'll tell you that much. This
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: was six or seven years ago. I was in downtown
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Denver's walking I think I got something to eat. Was
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: walking around and there's this big van that's pulled up
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: on the curb with three people with cameras out professional
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: people with cameras, And I was like, what's going on
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: over here? So I walked by it and it was Jamal.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Jamal Murray was out there taking pictures in his new
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: balances because he's been endored the brand new You know what, though,
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: I sat there for a couple of minutes and I
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: watched it and Jamal would smile, take the picture, do
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: a pose, this sort of thing. And then they'd be like,
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: all right, let's take a break for a second, and
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Jamal's smile would leave immediately.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Did not want to do this. You could tell he's like,
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: I'm done with this, shoot, I just want to go home.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: But he did it.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: That's the whole point. He did it because that's what
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: you need to do. I just don't understand.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: I don't get it. I don't get why this was
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: hard for him. I don't know what. Well, how much
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: more money did he want?
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: What?
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: One hundred million year? What?
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: At least play the game. We know when you're deciding
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: between a small market and a large market. One of
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: the one of the things in that conversation is, oh,
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: if he goes to New York, there's all these sponsorship
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: and endorsement possibilities that he can never get in Indiana
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: or as a Milwaukee Buck. So that's a fair conversation.
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: But we at least expect you to then be an
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: endorser of the product. Yes, if this is the reason
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: you're going to New York and it's because you want
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: to make more money, you want your gal to make
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: more money, then you guys endorse products. Then okay, you've
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: played the game. Properly. You've taken advantage of this situation,
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: and now we can buy into that this with no
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: endorsement for the endorsement dollars. It just beyond strange credibility.
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: It's just bull crap. It's a lie.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it is a couple of things.
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: The times I've seen Kawhi let his guard down and
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: kind of be Kawhi, he's he's a pretty engaging dude,
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: and he's pretty funny like he is. If if the
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: real Kawhi would endorse my product, I would probably really
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: like that, right, not the quiet puts up this mask
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: and all this kind of thing.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: But number two, I love that guy. I honestly love
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: that guy.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: Uh Lindsey types in and says, hey, the Nugget should
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: play the tree Farm jingle throughout the next home game
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: against the Clips. All right, well, he's gonna be. He's
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: gonna be in Toronto because they're gonna let the trade
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: go through. It'll be back in Toronto.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: It'd be funnier against Clippers, though.
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: But I swear with God as my witness, and I
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: cannot be alone in this when I'm taking my very
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: last breath as a human being, and now hopefully it's
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: a long time from now, I'm going to be able
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: to sing the Tree Farm song from beginning to chatter verse. Yep,
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: I'm not kidding you want you want some?
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: They don't need an endorser. The jingle is good enough.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: You take te Exit two, then.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: Five miles west too. Everybody knowlse It's Steve Moss wrote
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: that it's one of the It's one of the greatest.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: Rings in the history of tree farms.
• 34:02
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• 34:15
  Speaker 7: I'm a fun guy. Uh, obviously I'll love the game
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: of basketball. I mean, there's just more question you have
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: to ask me in order for me to tell you
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: about myself. I just can't give you a whole spill.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Twenty five to Exit two thirty five, then five miles.
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• 34:47
  Speaker 5: You didn't think you'd be singing at seven thirty in
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: the morning, did you, No, he didn't sign up.
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: For that day. It was none on my morning bucket list.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: I blame I blame myself, I do. But the tree
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: I just I can't get over.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: It's so good.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Ahea, So a few things here as we were all along.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: We're out here at Broncos camp. This will be the
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: second last day. By the way, if you were a
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: fan that has a ticket to today's practice, you were
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: in the clear.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: So I was told what happened was the wind.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: So those little shade things that are on top of
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: the bleachers, it wasn't the rain or the hail. The
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: wind was so strong it like sort of picked it up.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: I guess we're gonna put it back down. And so
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: they came out and saw that and goes, yeah, we're
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: gonna make sure this is totally good before you let
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: people out here.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: They fixed it yesterday, so you're all in the clear.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: You're good to go today.
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: I loved your your camp stories from yesterday when when
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: I was able to listen and they're gonna fix all
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: this I mean, all this to our right, the old
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: complex is all coming down. They'll build a big burm
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: up here, and I'm sure they're gonna make it if
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: it's anything, it's not just gonna be dirt with weeds
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: and rabbits running around. They're gonna make it nice for
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: the fans. But this setup here is actually a really
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: pretty good setup for the fans. If I was a fan,
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: I think i'd like this pretty well the best you
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: possibly can, because you know, you have the bleachers, you
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: have the covered on and all that kind of thing.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: Back in the day, I think people just stood around
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: watching you, right, just stood stood around.
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: Well. Uh, it's see, in Pittsburgh there were the hills.
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: The field was down there, kind of in the bowls.
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: They could sit on the sides of the hills, kind
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: of similar to what the Bronco fans used to sit
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: on in the past Red Hill right.
• 36:19
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: In Seattle they had to stand on the edges of
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: the field. At Eastern Washington University when we used to do
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: you went to Chenie, Cheney, Washington.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: You're I did games in Chenie.
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: Yes, I've done games at Eastern Washington on the red field,
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: red turf. Yes, they didn't have the red turf when
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: I was a Seahawk doing training camp there. But that's
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: where we used to do training camp. And those dorms
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: that looked like a giant trash, Yes, that's where.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: We's incredible, man, that's.
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: Where we did training camp. Let's just say it was terrible.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: Dude, Cheney Washington is It's it's Eastern Washing. It's in
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: the middle of friggin no way.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Most I told you this like as we have stared
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: at this facility that these players are walking out of
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: every single morning and come out here, do practice, come
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: back inside, have this beautiful weight room, golf sim lunch table,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: beautiful locker room.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: I every year am shocked that the Chiefs camp rolls
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: around and they're in Saint Joe, Missouri at Missouri Western University,
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: which was in my baseball conference. I've been there, I've
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: played multiple times.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: There was nothing.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: It's very D two. That's how it's a very D
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: two school. And maybe that's the way and he really
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: likes it still. Maybe he wants his guys to be
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: d Travis Kelsey's been eating all that caviaar.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: Maybe maybe he needs a little D two, little D
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: two in his life.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's oh yeah, you take those pjs. How does
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Saint Joe, Missouri feel to you?
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: It's a humbling process. When you show up and there's
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: a card table outside the dorms and it's the people
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: who can w rench you an air conditioner that you
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: have to pay for and they will put it in
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: your dorm room during your first practice. So when you
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: get back after your first practice, your room can actually
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: be cool. But you got to pay one hundred bucks
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: cast that is rent AC for the time you're at
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: training camp. And so yes, you're certainly an athlete. You
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: get all the things given to you. But here at
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: Saint Vincent's College, you got to rent your AC.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: If you're at Pittsburgh, do Cheney Washington like, if you're
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: in Chinie, Spokane feels like la.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: It's it'll blow your mind. Man.
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: We would say, all right, while we gonna take the
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: twenty minute drive to Spokane and get a good dinner
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: or we're gonna eat a crappy dinner.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: Here in Yeah, I would, and I would, I would
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: do the uh hell, I would do the the whole thing.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: I'd do chini. Then I go to Moscow, Idaho, yep.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: And then I'd head down to Pocatello and do do
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: some stuff there. Uh you know, I'd go to the
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: Kibbi Dome, maybe do a basketball game against the Idaho
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: and that kind of Oh.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: My god, times largest wooden dome. Yeah, it's incredible. So
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: let me ask you guys. This get you this morning.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: There you go one thing that is.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: In an exciting addition to the offseason that we have
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: not really seen, at least in game action yet, because
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: the starters did play in that first preseason game. Obviously,
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Courtlett Sutton had a great day and three catches for
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: sixty yards. The one hander we'll get tackle at the
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: one yard line right this close to a touchdown. I
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: still want to see what the dynamic between him and
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Waddle being on the field at the same time looks like.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Now both Waddle and bo Nicks did not play in
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: that first game. Sean Payton yesterday was asked about is
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: there any concern about them building chemistry before the season starts.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: He said this, I think we got a lot of
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: time still, you know, I mean, we have good work
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: this week, this weekend. I mean, and there's been a
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: lot of time on task already. You know we're being
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: smart with it, and he's coming along really good.
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: So we'll see how this week unfolds.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Do you think, Chad, that's something that has to happen
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: before the season starts or will they be okay if
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: they figure it out week one?
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: No, they won't be okay, but they will be okay
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: as the season goes long. The best teams, the best
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: player find ways to get better during the season. You
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: have to. You can't get all the work necessary in
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: training camp because injuries, because of concerns about, well, how
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: many reps do I want to started to play in
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: a preseason game, what opportunities unfold during the course of
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: that game, So you can't say we need twenty completions
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: between these guys in game action. But so for them
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: to be ready, it's impossible to script that out that perfectly.
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: So there will be a bit of a learning curve
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: as the season goes along, and the preseason games don't
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: really reflect the regular season games truly from a defensive standpoint,
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: because you're not going to show all your blitzes and
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: all your exotics. It's going to be fairly basic. Even
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: if you are beginning to game plan a bit you're
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: still holding back a majority of your best stuff for
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: the season.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: You know what, I know you'll it's the same way
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: in the NHL too.
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: The amount of efficiency you have to have now at
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: your practice times and in your meetings and all that
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: sort of thing is significant because you know, I'm not
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: saying it used to be a free for all back
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: in the day, but there weren't things written into the
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: CBA where you only have this amount of time, where
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: you know, you only have this amount of time on
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: the field or here this morning, and you only get
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: these guys for this amount of time, and you have
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: to really be efficient and cram a lot in to
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: try to get up to speed. But nowadays, I think,
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: like the Abs, they have a knock so well. I
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: mean they're in camp for three days, they play a
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: preseason game, and they're offer running in the preseason. But
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: you know, there's such a well oiled machine Jared Bednar
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: wastes virtually. I mean, it doesn't waste any time in
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: these practices. Everything has a purpose. Guys are always moving,
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: there's always things being taught, so on and so forth,
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: And that's the way it looks out here to me.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Chad, you can correct me if I'm wrong.
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: But again, your coaches back in the day, they could
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: run it back a billion times and whatever, right, But
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: now I mean, you gotta get your work in.
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: You to your point. You have a certain allot of
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: time you could be on the field per the CBA,
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: and then when you get into these coaches meetings, which
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: I've done as an interim coach, every minute is allotted
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: for and so for the chance for us to go, hey,
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: you know we're gonna start this period over, you guys
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: didn't have the right focus. Well, if you do that,
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: you gotta rob that time from some other period. And
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: so that's why they're reluctant to do that nowadays, because
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: we want to be as efficient as crisp as possible.
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: Even the individual reps are discussed once you break out
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: into your defensive meeting room. Okay, tell me about your
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: deb rotation. How many reps are these guys going to get?
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: And because you have to do that, at some point
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: the train staff is going to come in and tell
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: you this guy can't go. He ran five miles yesterday,
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: he's exceeded his threshold and now he doesn't get any
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: practice work at all. So, as a coach, you've got
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: to be cognizant of those kinds of limitations, whether it's
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: the CBA or the training staff telling this guy's got
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: too much volume on his legs. Now he can't look
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: at third down work we're doing today because I, as
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: a coach didn't give him the right proper reps during
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: the rest of the week.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: Dan Reevespeggett, volume the hell you talking about volume on legs?
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: Get his head out there, you know what I mean.
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: It's it's just times have changed, man, and rightfully so,
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: because the investment in these players, Brett, I mean, these
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: are multime multi multi million dollar assets, and you've got
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: to treat them like that. You've got to treat him
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: like a you know, like a you know, something under
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: a piece of glass, because you can't afford to have
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: them out. You've got to be smart in the science
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: nowadays is so great too.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Well, it was it's good that Wattle returned to practice
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: yesterday because what's funny is he's kind of like the
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: one guy on offense that maybe needs this work the most.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: He's the new guy that's it. Like he enters an
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: offense with Nixon, Sutton and Dobbins in the whole offensive line,
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: and Evan Ingram and all these guys, they were here
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: last year. They've been through this, and even with a
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: change in play caller, it's it's not as if you've
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: shifted your entire offensive philosophy. It is a lot of
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Sean Payton's stuff with some sprinkles. I'm sure of what
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Davis Webb likes to do with in this offense, but
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Wattle's one of the guys, like, if there's anybody who
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: has to learn the offense, it's him.
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: I hear what you're saying, and there's certainly some some
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: credence to that. But I also would say, as a
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: guy who plays outside the numbers, the further you get
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: away from the football team is involved, the more me
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: is involved. And that's why those receivers who play outside
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: the numbers are the divas in the NFL, because they
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: look at the game through the lens of themselves rather
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: than the team. You play offensive line, you can be great,
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: but if the guy next to you sucks, he's gonna
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: make you look bad constantly. Yeah, you're outside those numbers. Hey,
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: I get open, I get separation, they throw me the ball. Great.
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: Occasionally I got a run block. So for waddle, be fast,
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: be explosive. There's not gonna be some brand new route
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: that's gonna blow his mind that David's webb is asking
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: to run. He's run every route combination there possibly could be.
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: But the thought that somehow he needs to have this
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: intricate set of timing. If he was a slot receiver
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: and it was Tom Brady and Wes Welker, and Wes
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: Welker was brand new to that process where there was
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: so much timing and so much nuance and such little
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: windows to throw the ball in, that would be a
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: different conversation than the guy who plays outside the numbers.
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: But this can go. He's got a step, I'm throwing
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: it to him. It's not necessarily timing.
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: Got Hi. I've got to ask you. These are lead
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: wide outs.
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: They've got to know they are Diva's right. They do
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: mean or do they have that self awareness or they
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: just think I'm just I'm I'm a kick gass player.
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: No, they know, they know.
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: Okay, So could you say, hey, Elton John, get open
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: next time? Hey hey Diana Ross, once you run the
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: right route, you know what I mean?
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: I just these guys crazy, these Cays. But they're so elite,
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: they're so good. They cracked me up.
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: I played in a flag football game with Jerry Rice
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: and see I must have been forty. It was a
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: couple of years after I was done, so Jerry had
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: to be in his early fifties by that point. And
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: Jerry came back to the huddle after every play. Hey man,
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: I was.
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  Speaker 8: Open, And at some point I was like, Jerry, it's
• 45:46
  Speaker 8: a it's a cheery. He's got to spread the ball around.
• 45:50
  Speaker 8: Everybody wants to cheer for each of the guys who
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: are here.
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: Right, do you think Jerry the guys like that, Like
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: let's say Jamar Chase right or Jerry Rice back in
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: the day, do they think they're ever covered? No, Like
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: this cornerback can be all over. You could run a
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: safety at it. But I was still open. I was there.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: If you just threw it to me, I would get
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: I would talk to Did Sean write a book called
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Throw Me the Damn Ball?
• 46:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: He did as a rookie. He's a rookie when he did, yes,
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: was right after his rookie season. Yes, dude, when he
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: was at USC.
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: I did a really long interview with him Keishawn Johnson
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: is He's a really interesting dude.
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: Man. He really is great receiver, but an interesting guy.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Uh three oh three five O four nine two five
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  Speaker 3: is the shot maz. The text text line one price,
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: one person, one hour. Still a lot to get to
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  Speaker 3: here at Broncos Park. Back after this