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Nature Testifies · Outcast

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All right, welcome back. Thank you for those that are
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new. Welcome.
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And before we start, we always pray.
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So, Lord, thank you for allowing us to gather here.
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You guide us and lead us always into the absolute truth, for
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there's no one greater than you. Praise your holy name.
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Amen. Amen.
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Yo. You know, I was listening to
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something really interesting. I don't know why I just decided
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to click on a random video or random podcast, Right, right.
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You know Joe Rogan, everybody knows Joe Rogan.
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He he talks about some cool things.
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So I I decided to just click on one of his videos.
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Yeah, everybody, everybody listens to him.
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Yeah, everybody listens to it. I, I don't know who this person
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is. Well, before I listened to the
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video, I didn't know who this person was.
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It was Daniel Everett. There's there's Everett.
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Probably. Oh, right, right, yes.
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Daniel Everett, yes, Yeah, the guy that went to like.
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Yes, I saw that podcast a while ago.
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Yeah, it's like a guy that goes to a tribe.
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Yeah. You're not really You don't
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watch podcasts. No, I really don't watch
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podcasts like that. No, I really don't.
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Yeah, I just watch. I'm.
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Surprised you even saw the whole thing.
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Probably fell asleep. I mean, I did.
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I did fall asleep for a section of it but I was waking up and I
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was in and out. But he talks about but I did
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watch a good portion. Yeah, I do.
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I do know what that vodka is about.
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Yeah. Yeah, though.
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So what? What about it?
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What did it interest you? What?
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What you seem, I don't know, interrupted by it or.
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Nah, Nah. It's it's more, it's more very
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interesting. Surprise or shock or I don't
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know what. No, I don't.
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I don't taken back by it. Yeah, I guess taken back by it,
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Yeah, 'cause he goes to this tribe called with a peanut pira
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pira tribe. I think it's a PITA Hut.
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Pita Hut. Yeah.
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Pita. Yeah, it's a.
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Tribe in Brazil. Yeah, I know what you're
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talking. About it's a tribe in Brazil,
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right? Supposedly.
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Like the way they communicate is completely different from ours.
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Like they don't have like a left or right.
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And when they and certain words literally sound like almost the
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exact same and you know, or if you know, if they see the colour
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blue or something like that. Yeah, I do.
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Remember, they'll just Basically their language is, but if I'm
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not mistaking some professional linguistic or something like.
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That yeah, they don't, they don't have numbers or anything,
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right. It's, it's just they don't have
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words for like colours. So when they describe a colour,
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they're going to point it to like the cloud for white, yeah,
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the sky for blue, like stuff like that.
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And also they don't have numbers to there.
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They don't like if like he was saying, like if you catch a
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certain amount of fish, you either say a lot, a little bit
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and that's it. Yeah, you don't say, oh, I
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caught, I caught like 14 or 10. Nah, you don't say anything like
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that. So it's really interesting.
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And him going to that tribe, well, he's a he was supposedly A
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missionary, believed in God. And then at the end, he ended up
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not believing anymore. Yep, that is true.
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So that did happen. Yeah, after being, being there
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for a while, he just like I, you know what this guy that, you
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know, I read about, it's not, not true.
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Interesting. Yeah.
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Just stop believing in it. He talks about how he trained
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'cause they, they train you to survive in the wilderness,
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right. And which is pretty cool, the
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way they trained him. Really interesting.
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But it's interesting because he speaks so much about how he, he
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trained like physically and then spiritually, he never really
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touches that topic that much. And in the way he says like
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where he just where he talks about how like why he left the
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faith and everything. It was almost like basically he
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was almost saying like, you know, he left the faith because
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he saw how happy these people were.
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He saw that these people actually had a purpose in life.
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While like us here, we're just so focused on trying to pay
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bills, trying to work and all that stuff and.
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Then yeah, I know, I know, I know.
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I've seen them. You know what I mean?
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Like, and then there's those people in that tribe where
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they're just always happy. All they're doing is just eating
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and sleeping and mating and that's it.
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Like you know what I mean? Yeah, I do.
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Yeah, you do seem almost like pissed off.
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Not pissed off but like what's wrong with you?
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Yeah, yeah, it's almost like. Well.
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Well, it's because his his point of view with scripture.
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It's like it's almost like he he didn't even understand scripture
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like like that. It was almost like he just.
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If I'm not mistaken, I think in a previous previous episode I
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had I might have mentioned it based on something.
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Maybe. I think you have.
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Yeah, I know I did. I do remember because I I, I
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only remember because what we were talking about.
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Wait, that episode? Now that that I come to think
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about it, why did I land in this episode?
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I don't know, do you? You said you were watching the
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video. Dude, I I swear I.
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Didn't. No, because I'm surprised you
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don't watch podcasts. I mean like.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like HD.
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Yeah, it's just so funny because like, I just clicked on this
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randomly and I remember you mentioned it in the podcast.
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I know I did. I, I don't remember which
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episode it was, but I, I know I, I vaguely mentioned it because
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of something. But yeah, I've, I've seen, I've
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seen that. I saw that podcast I saw.
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Yeah, yeah, right. I won't lie to you, kind of like
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towards 75% of the podcast, I kind of just like.
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Yeah, bored of it? One out of went out of it
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probably finished it just like as a background noise.
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That's all.
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Usually do things, but So, yeah, basically he was a missionary.
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Yes, I do remember the podcast with Joe Rogan, some old dude
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with white hair. Yeah.
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I mean, older guy, yeah. Yeah.
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Wow, there's a lot to talk about that.
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Well, you also have to understand that this is common
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sense too. Or maybe we say it's common
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sense because we learned it. So we don't even know which one
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came first, the egg or the OR the shell or the chicken or the
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egg. Right.
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Yeah. What I mean by that is I'm
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saying to you, well, it is common sense that the more
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knowledge you acquire, the more burdensome that brings.
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Yeah, this is better to know the unknown.
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Yeah, exactly. I could just say, well, that's
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common sense. Well, you only say that because
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you read and learned that, and that caused you to have the
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common sense. So which one came first?
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Right. Yeah.
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You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So it seems like the people that try live in a state of
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unknowable. Yeah, like unknowable.
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Yeah, So what they know is based on what they see.
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Yeah, that's literally how they live.
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Right. And we, we're the modern world,
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right? We learn, we learn, and that
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brings a burden. It does, and even though I'm
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Solomon. Solomon talk.
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That's what I was going to say. Solomon talks about this.
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He does talk about it Now. I've said before in the podcast,
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I've also got to that point where like this can't all be
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real, right? This, this, this has to be like
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a fantasy or something, right? This was like what 2009, 2010
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Genuinely, I was just like, this is no, no, no shot.
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This is it, right? I've asked my brother and you
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and then my cousin Wilmer that have you ever guys concluded
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this like no, man, how can I ever.
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But I did right, you know, and I just just like really, though,
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right, You know, not until I had my personal experience.
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I was like, well what was this? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Something supernatural. But but what is your take on
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this? I mean, I'm surprised you
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listened to this. Yeah, I'm surprised I listened
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to it too. I'm surprised I even ran into
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this. Well, what I got out of it was
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like, was like, yeah, I've, I've always, I've always known that
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like the less you have and the less, you know, you're more at
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peace, 100%. That's just common sense.
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And I've seen it from like, for example, people are in our
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country, we're from Honduras, there's and there's people, you
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know, that live in mountains and all that stuff.
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And you know, they, they live just, you know, they live
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normal. Like they eat, they drink, they
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have their farm, they have their chickens.
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And they're not obviously splurged like rich.
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Maybe they have like an old truck.
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You know, they just live like that, like farm, right?
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And they're the most happiest people you see.
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Like they don't, they don't believe in, like they don't
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believe in them. I don't.
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Think is that they're happy. I think they're just content
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with what they have or. Content that's a better.
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Word because happiness is is something causes that, right?
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Or happiness causes that. So there's a cause and effect.
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You know what then? Then?
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Content. Causes for you to be happy.
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Then content would be, would be the right word for it.
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Yeah. So they're content with what
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they have and they're like, you know, like.
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And there could be levels to contempt them.
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And because if the tribe they're, they're, they're
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detached by, I mean detached from the modern world, meaning
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like they just don't have technology they're, yeah, have
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access to. They don't.
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You know, they're, they're content, yeah.
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With nature and how they live. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.
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But I guarantee you, the moment you take them away from that,
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let's say war happens, hypothetical, and it goes into
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their lands, they're going to they're going to be taken away
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and taking it to a safe spot because humans are humans,
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right? We're war.
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Let's put these people in a safe place.
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Yeah, let's say they're put in in this area where they've never
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seen before, a building, concrete, all this.
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They start to get exposed. What do you think will happen?
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Oh, they'll definitely get conformed to the things here.
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First of all, they'll be mesmerized.
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Yeah, they they'd be mesmerized at first.
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At first, but they'd be like. Electricity, plumbing.
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Yeah, like, you know, running water, but the.
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What takes for that to to to experience all that in your life
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in a daily base requires a sense of freedom.
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You have to give up. Yeah, right.
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Yeah, because you now you have to work.
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For this stuff now when I say it's better to know the unknown,
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I'm not saying that the law wasn't important to 10
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commandments, but we can get to that.
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Noah, everybody before the 10 commandments.
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If you read it, you seem like there was a sense of respect.
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Yeah. Even if there was no like, of
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course, official the 10 commandments, the thoughts of
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God, right? In which he wrote on stone,
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Right. They if you read, you saw how
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the pharaoh respected Abram. How can you do?
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Like, for example, how can you do this to us?
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Why didn't you tell us that she was your wife?
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Yeah, Yeah. How can you bring this bad upon
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us? Right.
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Right. What?
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Why did they do that? When they found out who Abraham
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was, they knew that there was this creator that was high, the
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most high God. Yeah, they knew this.
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This wasn't something unknown. Even though when Abraham's wife
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died, he goes to like a certain tribe and the tribe is like no,
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you are a Prince of God. OK, so So what what I'm trying
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to say with this is like, even outside of the Bible, read the
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books you there's historical evidence too, that they knew
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that there was a higher God, right?
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Besides the, the, the, whatever you would call the Samaritan,
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the Anunnakis or the, the pantheons or right or the, you
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know, the Greek gods, right? They knew that there was this
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unknown that was greater the high most this was known, right,
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right. This is not something like
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right. This was known in the ancient
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world. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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This is before the 10 commandments.
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Yeah. He was a sense of respect not
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just because of the high most God just because of humans to
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humans a a very normal concept of be treat others how you would
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be treated like to be treated right right.
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Something that Christ said in the gospel.
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So like when Paul mentions in the book of Romans, like, you
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know, creation testified herself, like our conscience,
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this is the law to to unto ourselves right now, prior to
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the 10 commandments. I'm, I'm leaving that aside
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because there was a reason for the 10 commandments besides
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other conversations we've had. But for the purpose of what
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we're talking about, Noah obviously drank and got drunk.
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We read that they say, oh, it was because it was before grace.
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No, stop. It has nothing to do with that,
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right? Really, really doesn't.
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He just got drunk because he knew what it took to have
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fermented drink. Yeah.
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Yeah, exactly. He knew that wine, the grape
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could be in a barrel for a very long time, right?
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And it would ferment. And he knew that the that would
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give him the effect of just blowing off some steam just.
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Yeah, like, yeah, it was too much.
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This this this just some task. Right.
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Nowhere in that section of Scripture does he condemn Noah.
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Right, if anything. He curses onto his son.
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Yes or yes. Yeah, yeah.
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Now, in that ancient time, it's just common sense, what I'm
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trying to say here. Like they knew based on their
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conscience what would be this is right and this is wrong.
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That's just conscience. Yeah, determining it, right.
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They didn't know any 10 commandments, right?
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And so forgot to say to choose Noah because he was a righteous
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man. Besides other, right, beside
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other facts. He saw that he was pure.
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Besides that he was pure. Yeah, yeah, by by DNA, but also
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of heart. Yes.
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Where was the law? No, that's true.
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Where was the 10 commandments? That is true.
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That is true. Where was the 10 commandments?
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So the, the, the ability of knowing the knowledge of good
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and bad wasn't the sin. Like I've said this before, I
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can't believe I'm the only one talking.
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You brought this up. We went with the podcast.
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Yeah, yeah, with that podcast. But so he even uses Noah to to
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defend his position. I'm using Noah to the to debunk
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his position. Right.
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Yeah, he could. He does use Noah to like.
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But he used it to defend his position.
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Yeah. I'm using it to debunk his own
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position because I know I've seen this broadcast, right?
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I've seen that episode. So his own.
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So if God saw him that he was pure, that means his conscience.
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He knew. He knew the knowledge of good
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and bad. Yeah.
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Yeah. Not that he knew how to wield it
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perfectly, but he knew how to determine.
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Oh, this is this is right. I don't know.
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This is wrong. Yeah, because even Christ says
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like, you know how to do good. Like he tells, he tells the
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Father he's like, oh, like to the to the dad, he's like, oh,
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you, you know, not to give you're.
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Being wicked, you know how to do you know?
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How to do good? Yeah, exactly.
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So and also also there's a part here in in two in the podcast
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where he speaks about like a little kid crying and then he's
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like, yeah, why don't you spank that kid?
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And I think the tribe was like, no, we don't do that here.
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That's bad. Or like that's that's not right
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to spank a kid. So they they even know the
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concept of good and bad. Now in scripture where he does
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mention sections because Christians are known to like hit
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their children, but jogren was like, why would you hit a kid?
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And depending on whichever culture you're in, you know,
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Middle East, the East meaning Asia, continent of Asia, or the
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Latin American countries, it is known that you get a good
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weapon. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
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Like, because you're just being rebellious.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now if they say that's not good,
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OK. Like, would you hit a 2,
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three-year old? Maybe not.
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Yeah, yeah. No, you don't do that.
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That's not good, Right? Yeah.
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In other cultures, that's a thing.
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That's whether if you're a Christian or not.
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Yeah, it doesn't. Matter.
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It just happens, yeah. Right.
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But when Solomon talks about this, he talks about it because
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the rod disciplines a child. But we're talking about someone
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who grew up being the Prince of a of a king like David.
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He was royalty, yeah. He was royalty, so of course he
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was disciplined of Cody was given the rod when those times
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came. Yeah.
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Versus someone not being growing up in the Kingdom.
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It's a different dynamic. It is.
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It is. It is.
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Yeah. So like we're talking about
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different times. You're talking about a tribe in
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Brazil who's like, detached from the like.
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Society. From human interaction and
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technology and all of a sudden you're saying they're the
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happiest people in the world. You could have easily have done
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that from just attaching from anything.
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But that's besides a point. I don't want to get to that yet.
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But what I'm trying to get at is by the simple fact that if you
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read Scripture or even historical, they historical
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archives out there. Yeah.
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Prior to Christ, before Christ, even before the 10 commandments,
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there was a human interaction of respect.
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Yeah, yeah. Society was different, slavery,
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and we can go into that. We can have that conversation
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day and night, whatever. Right.
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But there was a notion of respect.
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There was a notion of of being content with what you ever have.
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Now, as it shows even in historical archives, something
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interrupted humankind at some point, something came and got
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involved with the simplicity of how humans were living.
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Oh, yes, and that's even. Yeah, you're talking about
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Scripture, right? Talk.
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About Scripture, even even outside.
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Yeah, there's historical archives too, just as much as
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Scriptures talks about it in the Book of Enoch.
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Something came and interrupted humanity.
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Yeah, in what way? And interrupted it with
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knowledge. More knowledge than already.
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The fact that you have the ability of knowledge of good and
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bad, you weren't you. Then they acquire knowledge
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outside of that, right? Yeah.
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They are given technology. They're shown things.
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Things are not supposed to at all whatsoever.
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That comes into the pictures. There's a lot of variables.
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No, there is. Happening, right?
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And it's true, Joe Rogan says that like the bills, the taxes,
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Yes, we live in a modern world. We know too much.
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Yeah. And we're because we know too
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much. We're enveloped in this greed of
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capitalism. And everybody works, right?
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You either an employee or an employer.
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It's a vicious cycle. It is.
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Yeah. Like.
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Exactly. You know what I mean 100% It's
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all like for you to have gone to a tribe and all of this and say
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there is no God. If anything, a trip like that
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would have only proved to me there is such a God.
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Yeah, exactly. If anything, that proves what
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Paul talks about even more. Yeah.
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Exactly. So going back to going back to
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how the simplicity of of language and interaction, that
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was also a thing in the ancient times.
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Yeah. And they were main cities during
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that time. Because we've spoken about this
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in the podcast that like, for example, you know, we speak
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English, you know, the English language and, you know, it was
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translated from, you know, Greek.
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And sometimes our, our language cripples us.
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Yeah. From like, you know, reading.
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If, if, because he's a linguistic, right?
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So he's coming from a standpoint of how he analyzed his language
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and all that, right. OK, Our the oldest language that
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exists is probably the Samaritan, the Samaritan
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language which is like where the Mesopotamia area is, which is
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Iraq. Oh, OK.
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I forgot the other, I think Akkadian language.
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I could be getting the name or I could be getting it wrong.
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I could be botching it. But after that, Egyptian Coptic,
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which is very, it's like an offshoot of Greek, right?
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And then Abraham did not speak Hebrew.
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Yeah. He didn't speak Hebrew.
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He spoke the language of the Canaanites.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK.
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Like he just didn't speak like Hebrew or Arabic, right?
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Like he didn't. No.
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Yeah, exactly. Noah didn't even speak the
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language of of Abraham. He probably spoke that.
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That language is probably the oldest language, right?
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Yeah, no, I mean the guy said that there's about 8000
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languages like from back then. To Yeah, so to say that oh,
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Abraham spoke. He didn't.
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It was the the the descendants of Abraham that were in slavery
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in Egypt. That dialect that they had from
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Isaac and Jacob and Abraham mixed with the Egyptian in that
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in that general area is what becomes ancient Hebrew.
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Right, right. Later on, I'm just throwing you
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stuff. Yeah, yeah.
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No, I'm I'm literally learning right now.
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I don't even know how I know this stuff.
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I mean, 'cause I, this is something I've like in college,
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I liked history, so I would take some extra courses.
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Now mind you, the reason there is reasons to why God gave the
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10 commandments, right? Paul talks about this.
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You know, the law now makes sin visible, makes it alive.
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Yes, yes, OK. But it's actually perfect
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timing, if you think about it, that I'm going to give these 10
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commandments to a group of people who are just in slavery.
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100% because they they had they learned so many things from
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slavery. They were accustomed not only to
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the Egyptian culture, but they were accustomed to their own way
22:51
of thinking as a slave. Yeah, right.
22:54
And the 10 commandments kind of gives them a a clean slate to
22:58
unlearn the slavery and to learn this other type of if you will,
23:04
bondage, but to righteousness. Yes, a foreshadow, right, right,
23:08
just like a these are my thoughts.
23:11
Later in the future I will express it.
23:13
Yes, which is Christ through Christ.
23:15
Yes, exactly. It makes sense why at that
23:18
moment he decides Now I'm going to give the 10 commandments
23:22
because these people are probably the most stiff necked
23:24
people out of all humankind. Yes, God set it clear as day to
23:29
Moses. These people are stiff necked
23:30
people. OK, yeah, so he gives it to the
23:34
most stiff necked people ever in human history.
23:39
Makes sense? It doesn't make sense, Yeah.
23:41
OK, they just left slavery. They're going to the desert.
23:44
They have no idea what to do. How can you give freedom to a
23:47
slave who doesn't even know what freedom is, who doesn't even
23:49
know how to stewardship or administrate or allocate time
23:52
that's given to you by abundance, right?
23:54
How do you do that? Right.
23:56
No, you'd give it homework. Yeah, exactly.
24:00
Because they were adapted to all that, yeah.
24:02
So though then from then on, from then on, right, another
24:08
interruption happens. So an interruption happens prior
24:11
to the deliverance of Israel. There was a interruption that
24:16
was not from God. That was like a coup, kind of
24:19
like a, like a gang decided to like, we're going to interrupt
24:22
this. I did not get involved in that.
24:25
He allowed it. And you're talking about like
24:27
the ones that came? Down, a lot of things happened,
24:29
right? That we can take from Enoch,
24:31
yeah, we can take from historical archives.
24:34
Something interrupted something. Hell, that stuff, yeah.
24:38
But then God comes and interrupts.
24:41
Once again, yeah, 100%. And, and this day, today, we're
24:46
still being interrupted. From that moment, uh huh,
24:49
history changes, right? Because then from then on,
24:53
countries and countries and nations are a sub stack.
25:00
Oh, I'm not sub like a kind of like a offshoot of the the 10
25:05
commandments. Because they tried to rule with
25:07
those ideas, with US ideologies besides their culture, things
25:14
start to change. Right.
25:18
You know what I mean? Yeah.
25:19
Yeah. And also during that time, it
25:23
wasn't really so much modern. So someone like a tribe like
25:27
where these these people are in Brazil, the gap between them.
25:32
Oh, I know. Versus someone in ancient time
25:34
wasn't really that much. Oh.
25:35
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%.
25:38
You know, like someone let's say 4000 a year ago, like in
25:41
Egyptian times, someone who's in the Egyptian empire versus
25:46
someone who's like in some tribe.
25:48
What was the disparity between them?
25:50
It wasn't really that old like, not that that big of a gap.
25:53
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, right.
25:55
They had to eat garden. Yeah, all that stuff you know
25:58
there. Wasn't that much of a gap.
26:00
There really wasn't now. The gap now?
26:02
Oh yeah, it's huge. Instrumental, but like it's it's
26:05
unimaginable. Yeah, right.
26:07
You like if they were to see a plane.
26:09
Yeah, they would be like what? Or a car.
26:11
Yeah, the dude it would just the disparity between now a modern
26:16
time versus them by a tribe like that it's.
26:19
Yeah. It's an ocean.
26:20
Yeah. Yeah, it is.
26:21
It is. Like an ocean.
26:24
So we're talking about different types.
26:26
No, yeah. I mean, you see, for example, I
26:28
don't know if you've ever seen that show leaving the Amish in
26:32
TLC. It was like a show that was
26:34
blowing up, like people from the Amish and never seen
26:37
electricity. None of that.
26:39
All of a sudden they leave that to come to like New York or
26:42
California or something like that and to experience life,
26:45
right, I guess you can say and you see that.
26:47
Experience the modern world, yeah.
26:49
Experience the modern world because you know, they live, you
26:51
know, with no electricity, right And then they see like well,
26:54
throughout the episodes, you see how how bad it gets for them
26:59
when they experience the modern life, the life that you know, we
27:02
live and they crash. A lot of them crash and like
27:08
what we were saying, it's just to go from 11 extreme to another
27:13
extreme, you will crash. Yes, but back then that extreme
27:18
wasn't even there because the gap wasn't that much it.
27:20
Wasn't that much, exactly. The gap between like a tribe
27:24
like that versus an empire like Egypt, It wasn't the only the
27:27
only difference was we're high status and you're just poor.
27:31
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Now we say you're a tribe and
27:34
we're modern. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:36
The concept of even rich and poor means nothing.
27:39
Yeah, yeah, exactly. So it's like a it's like a huge,
27:42
of course you're gonna think differently.
27:43
Of course you're gonna see things differently.
27:45
You go from cities to a tribe that has no electricity or has
27:49
barely any community. That's what I'm saying.
27:51
The disparity, yeah, it's, it's and also.
27:54
It's huge. I think there's not really any
27:56
hierarchy to on top of that too in that tribe.
27:59
That's I think, yeah, there's not really any hierarchy.
28:02
Or maybe there might be that one like like experienced hunter
28:06
where people respect, but there's not really like for
28:08
example, here we have president, governor, everything.
28:12
We see hierarchy everywhere. It's like I said once again, OK,
28:17
someone, and I'm talking about someone prior to Moses, prior to
28:22
Abraham, I would even say prior to Noah, or maybe just during
28:27
that time something interrupts and gives the idea that there is
28:32
hierarchy and right there is this thing going on, OK.
28:35
In Christ remind. God did not establish that
28:38
hierarchy. No, he.
28:39
He just all you guys are my creation.
28:42
Yeah, I am the most like. If anything like that, yeah, if
28:45
anything, Christ reminds us that is be perfect like your Father's
28:48
in heaven, meaning like the rain falls on the rich and the poor
28:52
and the wicked. You know, we're all unequal.
28:56
Yeah. So, so because he finds himself
29:01
going to a tribe, right, you have to, you also have to see it
29:06
from where he's coming from. He's in linguistic, right.
29:09
So he's going to come from that standpoint and to see in, to
29:13
analyse a language that he's never heard before.
29:16
Right, right. He's mesmerized.
29:17
Oh, God. Oh my God.
29:18
Do you know what I mean? Yeah.
29:21
It's like I'm a musician. I hear this modern music and I
29:25
just go to a tribe I don't know in Australia and I just hear
29:28
this music. What is this?
29:30
Oh, this is it. This is the music.
29:32
Nothing else matters. No, right?
29:38
What happened to him was, let's call it what it is.
29:41
He probably was trying to pursue happiness.
29:46
That's what it. Was that's a fallacy?
29:47
Yeah, in of itself. You see, that's the thing that's
29:51
that's the whole, like when I was listening to it, I felt like
29:53
that was the whole premise of it.
29:54
Like it's like, how are these people so happy?
29:57
And then we're over here all miserable.
30:00
But The thing is like happiness, like you said, something causes
30:03
happiness. Let's just say if those people
30:06
were taken out of surprise, a war breaks out or anything, or
30:10
they get captured, will the happiness still remain is the
30:13
question. Probably not.
30:15
That's why Christ. Says no, no, probably not if
30:17
it's if it's their lifestyle that's giving their happiness,
30:21
but if in fact they've mastered life is this way.
30:25
Yes, if they mastered that, yeah.
30:27
Then if they get captured and sent into a camp or to because
30:30
they're refugees or whatever, they should still feel content.
30:32
Exactly. Because essentially their
30:34
circumstance, yeah, yeah, changed, but they've learned to
30:36
be contempt with anything, right?
30:38
Exactly. That's why Christ says this
30:41
peace that I give you surpasses all understanding, because we
30:45
see in Scripture that when Paul had a lot, he was content, and
30:50
when he had nothing, content, when he was in prison, content
30:53
wherever he was. It's like I say again, man, once
30:56
again, the gap in that time where Paul, someone who was like
31:01
a tribal or some farm versus someone living in the Roman
31:04
Empire, the cap was small. It wasn't even the way it is
31:07
now. Exactly.
31:09
No way. No way.
31:10
Yeah. We just saw maybe like stone
31:11
walls and marble and that's, that's it.
31:13
Yeah. It was nothing like crazy, you
31:15
know? Don't get me wrong, they they
31:17
invented a lot of cool things like aqueducts and stuff like
31:19
that, but that wasn't nothing new.
31:22
Not like here where we have refrigerators that literally
31:25
speak to us, you know? Exactly.
31:27
Exactly my point. Yeah.
31:28
Do you know what I'm saying? Like it's just the gap just
31:30
keeps getting wider. Yeah.
31:31
And wider and wider and wider and just ridiculous.
31:34
Exactly. So he's coming from a place
31:39
where he's intrigued by language.
31:43
He sees these people are happy. He sees how they communicate.
31:46
He sees that. He sees that we've kind of
31:49
created this, these systems in our language to communicate.
31:54
Yeah, God never told us not to live like a tribe.
32:02
We've decided that's true. He's.
32:05
Never he. Never.
32:05
Not, not. Told us not to, right?
32:08
Like, you know what I mean? See, that's the thing.
32:10
If you read from Genesis, where were we in the beginning?
32:14
A garden, you know what I mean? So he like, you know what I'm
32:17
saying? He.
32:17
Never, never said not to. Yeah, exactly.
32:21
You know what I mean, He never said not.
32:22
To yeah, yeah. Exactly like if he, if, if you
32:24
let. Let's say if you decide like
32:26
tomorrow, Oscar, I'm done with this.
32:28
I'm done. I'm leaving.
32:30
I'm you think? That's going to be mad at you.
32:34
No. No, he's not.
32:35
He can never. Please me.
32:37
Well, with what you're doing with.
32:39
Him, yes, but in regards to a simplicity of life, Oh yeah,
32:43
yeah, yeah. Why?
32:44
Would he be upset? About that exactly.
32:47
No, it's just as as. Much as true would it would be
32:50
where like God, I mean, I want to acquire money and finance to
32:55
do this and like, well, Are you sure that it's going to be for
32:58
that right? A test of character 100% just as
33:01
much as. Giving up all.
33:02
This is a test of character as well.
33:04
Yeah, we've set ourselves. In that position.
33:09
He never put us in that position exactly.
33:11
We did. We did.
33:12
We put systems in our life and all that stuff because of an
33:15
influence. I keep referring to an influence
33:17
that happened eons ago, ancient times.
33:21
Yeah, OK. That was what started to happen.
33:25
That's what what's happening. What happened, at least now for
33:30
him, you know? To have concluded.
33:34
That God is not real. Blows my mind.
33:38
It does blow my mind too. I could say that because
33:40
although. You were born a Christian your
33:41
whole life. Well I just said that I pretty
33:45
much like just did not believe it for a short period of time.
33:48
Like legit was like just no way this is all real do.
33:52
You know what I mean? Yeah, there's.
33:53
No shot. This is real.
33:55
Yeah, I've concluded to that right.
33:59
But then you can say, well, yeah, but you know, your family
34:01
was a pastor, Christian, this you were always influenced by
34:04
it. No, I can decide to want to stop
34:06
or not. You have the choice.
34:08
I have the choice. Yeah, I could have been like, I
34:11
don't believe in this, what my parents are doing and my
34:13
brother, I don't care. I could have literally decided
34:16
that, yeah, you and I did. Yeah.
34:20
And. Still, God interrupts me.
34:24
Interrupts amazingly, supernaturally.
34:28
Yeah. So it's interesting.
34:34
Oh, immediately he believes that God is not real simply because
34:40
we don't go to funerals or cemeteries.
34:43
I'm sorry. Not funeral cemeteries to lift
34:46
people up from the dead. Yeah, he did say that.
34:49
He did say that, yeah. You know, or.
34:54
Or see an amputee grow a leg. Really.
34:59
But yeah, because then he. Contradicts himself because then
35:01
he's like he's like, oh these people were conditioned to
35:03
suffer already from young age it's amazing because.
35:08
The Amazon is a harsh environment.
35:10
Yeah, of course it's a harsh environment.
35:12
You can have to learn. Ancient times was a harsh
35:14
environment. Yeah.
35:15
They had to deal with diseases that we don't have to deal with.
35:18
No. Yeah, they had to deal.
35:19
With fleas. They had to deal with lice.
35:21
A lot of things, yeah. They had to deal with life being
35:25
uncomfortable. There was no AC.
35:28
There was. None of that stuff there was.
35:29
You get what you get and live. But now all of a sudden.
35:33
Because we experience modern time at its fullest and when you
35:37
expose yourself to some a group of people living how they would
35:41
have lived how how people would have lived. 700 years ago.
35:46
Or 2000 years ago. You have.
35:53
Your mind is like, oh, wow, yeah, what are we?
35:56
Doing. Yeah, I just think.
35:58
That's just an excuse. Maybe it could also be this too.
36:02
He was hanging out with people that were pagans.
36:06
You know, let's be real here. I mean, they were the stuff that
36:08
they would do what he says in the podcast.
36:10
You know what what what is the I don't I.
36:11
Mean they. I don't remember they.
36:12
Like to sleep around with women and drink, you know, all that
36:14
stuff because they made-up their own fermented drinks.
36:17
And yeah, so they love doing that stuff.
36:19
That's why he he also said to to the tribe said to him too.
36:22
He's like, oh, you know, we don't really want to follow this
36:24
Jesus because we like our lifestyle.
36:26
We like the way we live, you know, sleeping around with
36:29
women, getting drunk. We like that stuff.
36:31
So I think like him being surrounded by that so much,
36:37
seeing the simplicity of life, not guarding his heart, he was
36:40
just like, I screw, I give up. I didn't.
36:43
Cover anybody here? That's he says on the podcast,
36:45
too. He's like, I didn't cover
36:46
anybody, so he got converted. If anything, he was.
36:49
On that guy converted, but it makes sense.
36:51
To why they say, you know, we like drinking.
36:53
We like, you know, doing this with women.
36:56
What do you think they were doing in ancient times in?
36:59
Ancient times during Noah. 'S time.
37:01
See, that's the that's the thing, people.
37:02
Don't understand too what you think what they were doing and.
37:04
God wasn't even condemning that, by the way.
37:08
The reason why he even had to really, like, kind of purify the
37:11
world with water was like, I keep, I keep, I keep saying
37:15
there was an interruption that was done.
37:18
Yeah. And God allowed it.
37:19
Yeah. And.
37:20
He had to, kind of. Cleanse it exactly.
37:23
With what it wasn't so much. As that they slept around and
37:27
drank wine, they probably figured that out on their own.
37:31
Yeah, right. Didn't take some other being to
37:34
teach them that exactly right. They probably figure oh.
37:37
Wow, this gets me dizzy. Just feels good, yeah.
37:42
Exactly. Oh.
37:43
Wow, I like sleeping with women. Of course, because now your
37:46
desire is for a woman. Like common sense, deep it is.
37:50
Yeah. Like, of course it feels good.
37:52
Yeah. But to them.
37:54
That is dead. Yeah, to them.
37:59
At that moment. Sin is dead.
38:01
So they're they're determining everything based on their
38:03
conscience. Yeah.
38:05
So they're. Just a group like that.
38:06
God will judge them accordingly. Exactly.
38:09
God will judge them accordingly, but the fact?
38:13
With the simple fact that he already spoke to him about
38:16
Jesus, he ruined it for them if anything.
38:20
Yeah, not that talking to someone about Jesus ruins it,
38:22
but in this aspect, but the simple fact of you now hearing
38:26
the truth and then to say no, we don't want that, Yeah.
38:31
For him to just give up like that and show that type of
38:33
example, because remember what Hebrew says, He says if you know
38:37
the truth and all the gifts and everything and then you were to
38:40
go back, but you, you were making like a we're talking
38:43
about someone who experienced. Just more than the elementary
38:46
things, yeah, Someone experiencing.
38:51
Things that is, things that are. Past elementary things, I think
38:54
this guy was never even. Oh yeah, yeah, no, you're right,
38:57
You're right. Because the way.
38:58
He was speaking about scripture. I'm just like, dude, like, no, I
39:02
think he did a terrible job. In my opinion, he thinks he did
39:05
a great job. Great job.
39:07
What? Explaining the Gospels.
39:08
And everything like that. But then when I hear him speak
39:10
about scripture, I'm just like, I don't have to go back to the
39:14
video, but I remember I would be like, yes and no, you know, but
39:19
more of the story is that like. He just gave his back to.
39:24
God, that's the way I see it. He did not hold on to the faith.
39:28
He did not guard his heart. If anything, he was the one that
39:30
got converted to what they do. And he was so focused on the the
39:37
physical survival mode surviving because they did train him to
39:41
survive in the wilderness. Seems like he never really
39:43
prepared for the spiritual, the wisdom, the getting ready with
39:48
God. And mind you, he spent like, I
39:51
think eight years or less. Training in the wilderness.
39:55
Then to go to the tribe, rather than gaining wisdom from God
40:03
throughout those eight years, to go speak to them because, for
40:07
example, Paul, you see how we would speak to people, to the
40:11
Romans, pagans, right? He used wisdom, so much wisdom
40:17
that they thought he was a God. Yeah.
40:20
And the island of Cyprus, I think.
40:22
Yeah, well, with the snake, yeah, he.
40:23
Gets bitten, but also with the Romans too, with the unknown
40:26
God, the Greek and the Corinthians.
40:28
Yeah, yeah. So I think if you want to do
40:33
missionary, I think it's. Interesting.
40:36
I mean, he was, he was confronted with.
40:46
He was confronted with a group. Of people.
40:50
Who? Depend on nature, yeah, and.
40:54
It's on. Its design, they depend on it,
40:58
but they also get hurt by it because, right, it's hostile,
41:01
right? Yeah, yeah.
41:02
The rainforest, the Amazon is not something he he, he
41:05
literally. Would talk about how people get
41:07
attacked by snakes and Jaguars, stuff like that.
41:12
Yeah. They would get yeah.
41:13
They would get hurt. Yeah, yeah.
41:15
Wasps, all that stuff. You know, yeah, things of things
41:18
in the jungle, yeah. Interesting we also have to take
41:22
into account like what did Christ mean when he said until
41:25
you guys preach this word to Jerusalem, Judea, you know, to
41:29
the to the ends of the earth, right?
41:31
Well, when Christ said that the ends of the earth, everybody
41:34
knew the center of the epicenter of the world was Rome.
41:38
How much further they knew that there was existing as much as
41:41
they knew in regards to knowledge, right?
41:44
They didn't know there was anything past the Atlantic
41:47
Ocean, right, right. They knew things existed in
41:50
Africa, they knew the Middle East, they even knew that the
41:54
East existed, right? So.
41:56
To the ends of the. Earth.
41:58
What does that mean to them? Yeah.
41:59
Right. Exactly versus then?
42:01
When John is revealed in Revelation, what does that even
42:03
mean now to the whole world? Because now John is seeing
42:07
something way past, way past even the the history of the
42:15
Europeans seeing things of World War One, seeing things of World
42:18
War 2, right. So.
42:22
What does that mean? And when I say that, what does
42:24
that mean? Like are these people Christ
42:28
died so that it doesn't? Lucas strive to get into the
42:36
narrow gate, strive, pursue that right, walk in, enter into the
42:43
narrow gate. Many find it.
42:46
Many many seek for it and find it and seeking going.
42:49
Others don't. If you find.
42:52
It. Yeah, yeah, if you find it so.
42:53
Like what does that mean? Why?
42:55
Why do I bring that up? Because they're they're a tribe.
43:00
The. Simple fact that he.
43:01
Went and and and shared the the gospel with them to convert them
43:07
you. Were trying to convert them.
43:08
Based on your training, right? You didn't use wisdom
43:13
accordingly, right? And what does that mean?
43:15
Hey, if you have to live there 1520 years, then so be it,
43:20
right? If you want if.
43:21
I mean, might as well he lived there, that he lived there for
43:24
quite some time so should have held on but but.
43:28
I it's, I'm not trying to sympathize with him.
43:32
I'm just trying to understand from his lens how he ended.
43:36
He ended up there, Right, right, right.
43:39
Because again bro, we're all the world.
43:42
Everybody's trying. To pursue happiness?
43:45
No bro, sometimes it's not going to be happy, that's OK.
43:48
Exactly. Exactly.
43:50
You're not going to be happy. Nope.
43:51
Exactly. And that's fine.
43:53
Paul even says it's. OK, to get angry, it's just
43:56
don't let it. Yeah, sit down on.
43:58
You. Don't let it sit throughout the.
43:59
Day. Don't let it sit, don't let it
44:02
set with the sun, if you will. Yeah, could be watching it.
44:05
Yeah. But interestingly, simply
44:09
because of a language that he heard that blew his mind, Right,
44:15
exactly. He thought that with very little
44:18
to say spoke so much. And that is true.
44:22
The more you know. The more sorrow it brings you.
44:27
Yeah, exactly. So it is better.
44:29
In a way to know the unknown it really is, yeah.
44:33
You know, the less you know, the better, the better.
44:36
It is burdensome that is. So hey man.
44:41
Exactly, exactly. So for those who.
44:44
Don't think God is real? That's fine.
44:47
You're entitled to that opinion and decision.
44:50
Yeah, Yeah. That's up to you honestly.
44:52
Like we're not the ones to change the hearts.
44:56
We just throw seeds that's it. And at the end they God is the
44:59
one. But everyone is entitled to
45:02
their own choice. Just.
45:04
Understand that there's only. 2 outcomes at the end of the day.
45:09
So that's pretty much for today. Yeah, interesting.
45:11
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45:21
And before you know, we end it. We always pray.
45:25
So thank you, Father. For this opportunity again to
45:29
speak about your word, to comment and speak about other
45:34
people's experiences and. How knowledge?
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Sometimes, no, not sometimes, but most of the time will be
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burdensome. But like you're, like you've
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said also in Luke, to whomever knows more you know that will
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now be accounted to you, the more you know there's a
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responsibility. And that's what makes it.
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That's what makes it amazing that you will be done always, at
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all times, and that your Holy Spirit always is present.
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Of course, have mercy if we have transgressed before you.
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Forgive us, Father. And all those listening.
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Bless them, and if it's one or two or three listening, that's
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fine. And whoever listens, know.
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That there is a God. Who is in control of everything?
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And thank you, Father, and your Son in the Holy Spirit.
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Amen.