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Go Out Swinging- Nurse On A Mission - With Laura Demaray · UK Column Radio

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Hello, I'm Charles Mallett with a UK Column interview, notes of which and
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links, of course will be posted at ukcolumn dot org. And today I
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have with me Laura Demiray, who is a registered nurse in Idaho in the
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United States, where she has been campaigning and petitioning county administrations to halt the
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rollout of mRNA COVID injections. And we're going to hear from Laura today.
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So Laura gives me enormous pleasure to welcome you to UK column. Thank you
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very much for joining me. And what I'd like to do for those in
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the audience that are not familiar with your campaign is just to set the scene
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and give a bit of background. So there is going to be a lot
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to discuss, but perhaps we can start by just going a little bit further
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back and you can describe your life, your profession and your community before you
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started doing any of what you're doing now. Yes, sir, thank you
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Charles so much for having me here today. Life before COVID, I think
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that will be something in the future, just like life before Pearl Harbor,
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life before nine to eleven. I think you know our children, If if,
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if we can be around that long we'll speak of what life was before
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COVID. I was I raised my children in Alaska, and I had just
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moved from the beautiful state of Alaska to Idaho and where we lived where we
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live in a little place in the mountains, off grid, and it's it's
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just a little oasis. And I went to work in a in an elder
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care facility and I just loved it. I loved my precious seniors. And
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that's where COVID unfolded, and I got to see firsthand about the pressures upon
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our our precious elders. So and then I moved into I wanted to expand
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and help more, and I moved into hospital hospital setting and I learned more.
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And so that was life before COVID. Uh, there's you know,
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we all have life stories that shape us. And the various sufferings and trials
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and tribulations. I feel that shaped us for this time as you were being
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in law enforcement and seeing firsthand probably the heavy handedness the changes. My son
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is in law enforcement also, and so I think everything before my life,
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all the trials, tribulations, travels. I grew up traveling the world,
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I lived overseas. I've been to probably over eighteen countries or something like that.
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You know, you lose count but anyway, it all shaped me for
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now, and so I don't regret all those trials and tribulations. You know,
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they're what God uses really to shape us for a time such as this.
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Absolutely no regret. So I think that's that's a philosophy that people will
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be glad to hear. Laura, thank you very much that introduction. Then,
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of course, twenty twenty, the hammer dropped, the situation changed.
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How was that for you? But in the context of your professional life,
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how did it become apparent that perhaps your views were sort of dis ordn't with
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those around you? And how did you manage that? The interesting thing living
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where I do in rural Idaho. At the time I was rural, and
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now I'm in more of a city environment where I work. I drive an
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hour and a half to get there in the rural environment. Actually, because
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of my background I had already had I was getting my masters at the time,
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so I had access to a lot of old papers, twenty ten papers,
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a lot of papers that discussed like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquin and the dangers of
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masking on nursing personnel and things like that. They're very hard to find now,
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they're very hard to find. And because I was getting my masters,
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I could access things that we can never access just in the public because you
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have to pay through a firewall that costs the average person sever one hundred dollars.
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So it just you get them through trickle down effect by some you know,
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very astute and kind physician or researcher that shares this on Twitter or their
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sub stack. So but at the time, I had access to all those
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papers, and it discussed many things about how, you know, various medications
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helped in the first Stars pandemic and things like that. Right Stars one.
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Well, I was in a honestly a blessed environment because we're kind of out
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of the reach of the big city health and welfare things like that. And
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we determined as a facility to honor our elders and we basically made a visit
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room where we complied six feet apart. You know, we had two tables
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together, did all the hand sanitizing and things like that, and we kept
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COVID out for really the first you know, year and a half when it
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did hit and it you know, it hits. Everyone eventually being in long
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term care at the time or assisted living at the time, they have no
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ppe or anything like that. It was and that's the case all over the
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country the facilities, and I think this is why so many seniors died across
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the globe in facilities. Is there no way to have any kind of real
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isolation. All it's doing is just breaking their hearts. Everybody has the same
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germs, you know, for the most part, in those facilities. And
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so anyway, at that point, it was it was kind of ugly because
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we you know, pretty much everybody had COVID and you just go to work.
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You just work right through it. And you know, I had a
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headache and I lost some smell for a couple of days, but I took
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ivermactin and hydroxy gloricuen and I worked right through. So and and and so.
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Anyway, learning about the COVID, experiencing COVID, it's nothing to be
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afraid of. And at that time in our community, I want to I
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want to share how I sort of got more and more and more involved.
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Is even our local even our our local public servants, our local doctor,
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our whole throughout I would say from here to Boise and above. We banded
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together to do early home treatment for anyone who needed it. So people would
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reach out to any awake doctor that understood the value in the early home treatment.
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And I appreciate doctor McCullough's statement as well about early home treatment was imperative.
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Never in the course of nursing history or in medical care, do you
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just tell someone to go home until you can't breathe anymore. That has never
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happened. And and so, I mean, we treat the cold, we'll
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treat the flu. You know, if we had a bola, we would
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treat bola the best we can. Early home treatment. We're not just gonna
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go curl up and die and wait to not be able to breathe anymore or
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bleed out. You you fight it, you know, you don't sit down
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and just wait for a vaccine that is unproven or experimental. And it was
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just common sense. However the world had lost it since and uh so early
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home treatment, I mean I had we would, we would pick up pharmaceuticals
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from you know, Boise or wherever and bring it to the sick thing family
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or the sick elders or you know. We tried our very best to keep
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everybody away from any kind of ventilator or redis sever situation against that backdrop,
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when when did alarm bells all concerns sort of raise their heads with regard to
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not so much the vaccine or the idea of a vaccine itself, but rather
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more the policy that that was used with which to sort of enforce it.
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Okay, that's that's a really good question. And it is different for every
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person because I have a lot of my precious injured that woke up after their
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vaccine injury and they started going down the rabbit holes and started realizing that almost
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everything they were ever told was a lie. So for me, it's a
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little bit different, sir. Uh. And this is this is the part
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where I feel like, you know, the Lord kind of raised me for
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this, as he did each one of us. Uh. We have a
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different we have different experiences that make us ready for what is unfolded. And
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mine is when I was younger, very apolitical, didn't know anything about the
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world really, I mean, I traveled. I traveled the world, so
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I knew that, you know, one the world was not overpopulated and two,
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you know, I had a love of culture and people, and I
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wanted to be in the World Health Organization. Uh now, don't cringe yet,
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because I I you know, I studied them. I took five languages
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in college. I wanted to help save the world. And as I got
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to know what they were about, I realized that they actually are just a
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cultic uh, psychopaths that want to control the world. And I don't mean
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to be rude to them, but they have not only in their policies their
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books, there's a certain agenda I feel that has encroached a real five pillar
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approach. And I have watched it since I was in college. So obviously
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I never became part of the World Health Organization. It was part of the
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I think. I think it was just part of the journey that you know,
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God wanted me on so I could see it when it unfolded, right,
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you know, right now they have spread a net and it's not just
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you know, it's not just a World Health Organization, the United Nations.
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It's also you know, Bank of International Settlements. It's the grip, the
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hold that they have on governments across the world through their strategic partners, and
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that includes unfortunately, many of their strategic partners are also part of the CDC
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Foundation and and quite big owners to governments around the world, government leaders.
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So when it unfolded SIRT in twenty nineteen, we were watching this, you
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know, in YouTube or whatever on the internet in China, these these shows
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of people just falling over and I've thought, okay, my husband, I
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mean, we moved off grid for a reason, or I didn't know what
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it would be, how they would take out Trump. But I thought,
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well, it's either emp or pestilence, and we'll be ready. And so
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that's not that I don't have a crystal ball or anything. I just read
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their books and they tell you, and it's part of their sort of religion.
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They will always give a revelation of the method, and they will always
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foretell what they're going to do to you because it's a contract. And that's
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how the dark side works. I can only see things now through my faith,
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lens. I'm a believer in Christ. I'm a Christian, and so
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because of my background traveling the world, and I used to look into all
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kinds of different religions, and I mean I I went all around the world,
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so really looking for God in a sense, and this was part of
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his journey training me. I that's how I figured out the World Health Organization
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of Culture religion and their value system was very different than the Christian value system.
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So a lot of our Western nations have been founded on you know,
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Judeo Christian values, and they actually have a different set of values that that
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they will use every every resource they have to implement in the hearts of men.
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And so how did I know it was bad policy before it even hit
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America? We lived off grid, ready to go and uh and and so
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as I went into the hospital situation, which I love, I love where
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I work, I really prayed about that and God I feel like opened up
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the best place on the planet for me to be in a hospital situation.
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And in my interview I shared with my boss at the time, I just
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want to let you know and be of above board that I will not be
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getting a mandated COVID vaccine and I will not ever take that, whether mandated
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or not. And I will not take any flu shot because you know,
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eventually, because they talk about it being in every single shot that is available
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for the most part, if they can get away with it. And the
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genetic material, the genetic platform is what I mean it's COVID shot is just
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the camel, little nose in the tent. It will be in as many
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applications for agric culture and and medicine if they get away with it. So
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my boss said, oh, that's you know, that's silly, that's there's
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there's no mandate. Well yet, I guess. And I just said,
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I'm just letting you know. I will you know, I'll work one hundred
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and fifteen percent. I'll be the best employee you ever had, but I
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will not get another shot, at least of those two. And uh.
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Anyway, and so it came, and when the we had to sign declination
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after declination because you could see the screws starting to tighten. And I was
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in the hospital setting when the screws started to tighten regarding the mandate. And
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then, you know, because I read their books, my husband and I
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were pretty certain that the mandate would unfold and and and if it couldn't be
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legal, it would be financial, you know, with strings and reward and
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punishment for giving or forcing vaccines to employees, even in the private sector.
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So I wrote the declination and and and and I just wanted to say,
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like, for a lot of hospitals because I talked with a lot of you
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know, I have colleagues and a lottings, a lot of and I also
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do a lot of the work with raising money for the injured, uh as
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you know, fighting fighting injections, the genetic platform, on the child schedule,
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and really ban it completely if we could. Well. Uh. Essentially,
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the declinations were things like I know that it does not change my DNA.
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Well, you know, I had to scratch that out because you know
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that how do we how do you how do we know that I kind of
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think it did, and now we can show it did and starts within six
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hours. But it was other things like you know, I may I may
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hurt others because of my choice. You know, well, you know,
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let's scratch that out. But and but this was across the board. This
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was across the board, my my, you know, through other so many
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hospitals, and and and then there had to be more declinations and eventually in
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my you know, where where I in the system that I am a part
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of, that I love and I love my system. Believe me, the
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hospital system I work in, is is it exceptional? But remember they all
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the entire world had pressure from the top down, so everybody had to scramble
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without information. In general, they had to really find avenues for information.
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And so really CEOs were doing the best they could, nurse managers doing the
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best they could, doctors doing the best they could. They so many did
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not go further than what the CDC and the FDA said. They just took
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that information because they had trust in them for so many decades. Now,
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shame on doctors and anyone who did not look further and challenge the narrative.
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But you know, there's so much information out there now people are waking up.
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The dam is breaking. Shame on doctors that knew and pushed anyway,
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but realize, you know, I just hope people have mercy when they look
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back, because there's cognitive dissonance. If you didn't know that you'd been lied
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to for decades, how would you know any different that the CDC is is
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a regulatory agency that's captured as well as the FDA and probably uh, the
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you know, the global as you know in Europe, the global health or
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government systems are very captured by industry. And so how would you know that
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if you if you had never been in the situation of freedom fighting or or
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if you hadn't been unfairly treated by them yet. And so I think this
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woke up a lot of people. More docs are awake than ever. And
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I do I I do realize too that you wonder how Nazi Germany could have
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unfolded. You know, how on earth could anybody agree to the murder of
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eighty thousand disabled individuals in Germany, or the murder of six million Jews,
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or the murder of the Gypsies and the experimentation upon them and the dissident Christians
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who helped them. How on earth would the medical community agree to such things,
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throwing them in, throwing Jewish children into the ghettos because of for their
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safety from you know, typhoid and cholera, or that they were the carriers,
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the dirty carriers. And you heard the same rhetoric on mainstream news about
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us dirty, unvaccinated. It was the same speeches. I looked up some
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of the old speeches, and you can just literally take out cholera, typhoid,
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and and and and Jews, and you can put in unvaccinated. And
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that's that's It's the same way they hurt those beautiful people. It's the same
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language. So I feel like I'm talking too much. But I guess in
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my heart the Lord had prepared me to be ready, and I wasn't sure
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what would unfold, but they had to take out Trump somehow, and and
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so I was ready for either, you know, off grid, I'm fine.
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So but you know, the whole point is is not to like be
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the last one alive of any issue. If you know, if the world
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goes to heck in a hand basket. The point is it's about souls and
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serving God and loving others. I don't I don't prep because I'm afraid.
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I don't fight this because I'm afraid I find it because really I guess God
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has put it on my heart to do that, and that it's to serve
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Him and to love humanity. You know, I love I love them,
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Laura, thank you very much for that. It's a very amazing sort of
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frank revelation and gives people phenomenal insight into your personal beliefs and convictions and also
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a masterful ability to hold your course, which I think will resonate with a
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huge number of people in the audience. And you've spoken repeatedly about in effect,
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what you're sort of describing as divine inspiration to conduct yourself in the way
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that you have. And so what I want to go on to talk about
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now is that is the practical application of that, because obviously you've done a
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huge amount that other people simply haven't. How is it that you began to
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take the steps in the sort of legal and administrative capacity that you have talk
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us through that that the beginnings of that voyage and how it's gone. Yes,
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First, if anybody thinks that they can't do something practically, I think
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revisit that you're you're made for such a time as this. And so it
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doesn't matter if you are a mama, a grandma, it doesn't matter your
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age. You can make a difference. You can ship away at the at
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the machine that is really trying to uh take full control of your family and
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and and really attack you at the cellular and genetic level. So, yes,
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you can do something and so practically, First, what was very helpful
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for me, uh in a proaching my lesser magistrates was I did I read
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this book from Matthew Truella, a friend of mine gave me this, and
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we we essentially you can affect things locally right because you do not have to
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beat the World Health Organization. You do not have to beat the UN or
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or a bohemoth federal government or bureaucracy. All you have to do is do
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something in your local community. Okay, because they're normal people. They're regular
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people. They're not you know, psychopaths trying to control every aspect of your
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life and thought process and body. And but this book, really, I
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say, you know, was very helpful in showing historical and biblical precedence.
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It's called The Doctrine of the Lesser Magistrates by Matthew Truella. And then you
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know, another practical application was, Okay, I did my research. I
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there's so much research out there now. For example, on the REACT nineteen
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website, they have a page that links to thirty five hundred over thirty five
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hundred peer reviewed studies that show adverse harm. Okay, so there is evidence,
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evidence, evidence. So you gather your evidence, and you to to
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go, say to the county, like I did. I called a few
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people because you know, I've been in the fight a little bit and had
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made friends with folks like McCullough and things like that. But you don't have
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to have you know, famous freedom fighters. You can have anybody brave in
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your in your county, your you know, state, your burrow, or
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you can have just you. Sometimes I just go with just myself and uh
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so we made an appointment. It's it's it's making an appointment. Uh.
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And I want to point out to the first thing that you have to have
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because all of this uh control and I would say, uh, malfee since
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has been done to the world because fear had taken a hold. So just
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realize that there's something about being fearless that the dark side does not know what
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to do with. And so my husband and I we had to really think,
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Okay, what is the worst that can happen? You know, they
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kill us, I get fired, we lose all of our stuff. You
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know, I will go eat you know, plants in the woods if I
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have to. You do have to be you know, search yourself and and
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I you know, for me, I feel like it's it's you know very
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You know, God will help you, The Lord will give you strength.
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But you must be fearless and and step out in faith and be fearless.
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And you know, you write that religious exemption or that medical exemption, you
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step out in faith and fearlessly make an appointment at your county and we literally
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just made appointments at from county to county at the border commissioners. And it
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takes a lot, remember you, oftentimes to actually make a difference in this
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environment, you are in opposition territory or neutral if you're really blessed that day.
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A lot of times it was neutral. Well I'm sorry, a lot
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of times it was opposition territory where you know, it looked people were People
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would stare at me like a zombie like you know, I mean literally like
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this, like like they can't wrap their mind around the information. There's a
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lot of failures. I you know, there are some days I just think,
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wow, that was bad. You know, wow, you get your
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butt kicked. It's it's not it's not a charging in on a white horse
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and victory. It is. You get your butt kicked a lot. But
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you have to be fearless and uh something, you know it. There's there's
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some kind of response. The dark side they can it it. It just
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recoils at fearlessness. And I don't mean bossiness or meanness, because going into
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these places, if you're screaming and yelling and bullying and you know, strong
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arming, it will shut them down. It will shut them down. It
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is it's a conversation. Just remember that they have been lied to as well.
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And many of the people you talk to to try to change things will
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be vaccinated and they're hurting, they have neurological inflammation, they have brain fog.
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Uh they you know, they know something's wrong and it scares them to
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death. And so anyway, I think, practically get involved at your local
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level and pick brave people, people with a heart to that have woken up
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like you Charles, to just lead your little local community. That's one thing,
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and then take a step into your county and talk to them have a
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conversation. I also we have gone to our a g which I just asked
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for a meeting. You know, can I have an hour of your time?
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And you know, you get a lot of no's. I've tried even
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at our you know, at our state level, you get things. You
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know, you get it's it's a lot of defeat. But you know,
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again I want to point out I realize that you so many people will feel
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like it's so big because this is at every level, the level of this
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narrative. You can see that it is not only at our regulatory agencies.
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They are captured our government. Uh, they are fearful or maybe cognitive dissonance.
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Also some of them are compromised. And this is globally because it's so
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much money. Well, just realize, even though you you may feel,
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or a person may feel, that it is so big, how can you
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ever win? How can any of us ever win? We don't have to.
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I am one hundred percent certain that God wins this. No human being
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will be doing this. It's about what did you do. It's about how
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did you serve? How did you love? Did you recoil and fear and
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never step out of your house again? Or do you take a step out
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and you help your sick neighbors. You go get their medicine for them,
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go get them groceries if they're not well. That is just as important as
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running for president. Every little thing that you do that is fearless, or
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even if you feel nervous about it, like I'm always nervous about interviews.
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I'm an absolute dork. I you know, I lose sleep over the stupid
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things I say. But I just have to give it to God because all
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you have to do is try. And so the practicality of that is get
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involved locally, help your neighbor, educate yourself. Read things that are off
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the mainstream narrative. Remember they're brought to you by Pfizer. Think for yourself.
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And there's cognitive dissonance, fear, and then there's malfeasance. Right,
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there's also malfeasance and greed, But most people, it's cognitive dissonance and fear
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the average person, and that is remedied by faith, fearlessness, and action.
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And you don't even have to save the world. You just help your
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neighbor, call that county commissioner, have a conversation and realize you could have
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four no's before you have yes. I do almost every time. I mean,
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now, we have had three counties, and this is after three sometimes
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four presentations each and many said no to our presentations. I mean, we
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did presentations all last year and I still only got three counties. However,
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the change that that made is now we have a new health and Welfare director
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in Idaho that is a fair and just person. He seems to be fearless,
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and I am so hopeful. I am so hopeful we may Idaho,
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Florida, or Louisiana perhaps or Texas may be one of the first states to
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hold the line for our children and not force this genetic shot on them,
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or even recommend this genetic shot. And you never know what may happen.
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Maybe we even get the job held band or you know, I'm I'm happy
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with anything. I'm you know, it's it's we just we just try,
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you know, we just try. We don't have to win at all.
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There are some very strong messages there, I think, particularly fearlessness all the
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time, and all you have to do is try. I think those would
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be two enormous things for people to take away. Now, a couple of
34:25
things to go into. First of all, I'm really glad you've shown the
34:31
Doctrine of the Lesser Magistrates, Matthew Treuella's book, which we've mentioned a lot
34:37
on UK column and various capacities there. I should also point out there is
34:39
actually an interview by Mark Anderson, our American correspondent, which is entitled Spiritual
34:45
Civics The Power of the Lesser Magistrates Doctrine, and it is an extraordinary book,
34:52
very very useful. And you've written a guide about how to approach county
34:58
commissioners and county clerks also known as some magistrates and I'm just going to read
35:01
to the audience how you finish your piece, because I think this is,
35:07
again, you know, such good advice, and you have three simple sentences,
35:14
the first of which is remember to be sincere, polite, and have
35:16
no fear. The territory that you approach is often opposition or at best neutral
35:22
territory. And finally, prayer, having a friend go with you to be
35:28
in the roomor's moral support, and putting on the whole armor of God will
35:31
be helpful. It's very powerful stuff, it really is. And I think
35:38
what I'd like to do is go slightly more into the nuts and bolts of
35:42
it, because, for a start, that this is going to an audience
35:45
across the world, and obviously we all have our own particular structures of local
35:52
administration and authority and the rest of it, so that so what you're describing
35:55
won't necessarily be applicable to people who are listening in country outside of the States.
36:00
But when you do go through this process and you make your appointment and
36:05
you're given this time to go and make a presentation, how do you put
36:08
that together? What is it you actually take, you know, with the
36:13
intent of what because obviously I prefix this by saying exactly what you've acknowledged,
36:17
which is that you expect that everybody in that room will be brainwashed, brainwashed
36:25
by information that is most likely not at all true, brainwashed to consider you
36:31
to be an enemy. How do you deal with that? What is it
36:36
that you're putting forward in order to try and win them over? Or you
36:38
know, make a coherent case. So after you make the appointment and you
36:45
prepare your speech, you adhere to their timeframe. Sometimes all you can get
36:52
is three minutes and you take it. Sometimes you get forty five minutes and
36:59
you take it. So what I do practically is so I prepared, you
37:05
know, I printed out studies and at first I started, you know,
37:09
and I I printed out the graph in my state. Let's see if I
37:13
can Oh no, sorry, this way you can see right here, this
37:19
graph shows how many have died in my state or how many are injured in
37:23
my state. Because you want to bring you know, you're starting small baby
37:27
steps and you want to bring something that they have. They have not heard
37:31
this information usually, so I show them with these visuals. You can do
37:37
slides. I'm not very great technically, as you can tell from you know,
37:45
my the earphones, I just plug in, but essentially bring something they
37:53
can look at. Also, you have your speech prepared and you practice it.
38:00
Don't walk in there and wing it. It will it will. I
38:02
have done that before and it was and it's awful when I wan things.
38:08
You got to prepare it. I mean, just you know, we're not
38:10
professional speakers. We're we're not, and you don't have to be. It's
38:16
a win if you just try and so be ready for defeat or victory.
38:25
You take it all in stride, and so have your speech and practice and
38:31
and time your speech because three minutes goes really quick. Uh. You know
38:37
usually people will have three minutes or five minutes. Well just figure about one
38:40
hundred words a minute, maybe maybe a little more. I've learned to pack
38:45
it in really quick, like a fast recording going really fast. So then
38:52
the other thing is leave them with something. Uh. I leave them with
38:57
thumb drives of letters from the injured, peer reviewed studies. I leave them
39:07
links to REACT nineteen's page of over thirty five hundred studies of adverse harm and
39:15
effect. We put resolutions on there, things like that, And then you
39:23
always want to have an ask, and the ask is the resolution so I
39:32
have, for instance, I always leave them with the resolution that I am
39:39
asking them to sign, and then so here's like there's an actual one that
39:47
has been signed, and I leave them with a written version of this.
39:53
So you basically kind of go through it in your head. Is it is
39:58
really that simple? And just realize it's okay if they look at you like
40:02
zombies or roll their eyes when you talk about twelve year old children stroking.
40:13
It is the journey to get there, and we you know, it's not
40:20
all on your shoulders to beat that dark side. It does change hearts,
40:28
it does, and it's just it will have ripple effects. I assure you.
40:34
I assure you any bravery or fearlessness that you have. And then a
40:39
big one you've mentioned the part where it's sincere. Definitely be sincere. You
40:45
know, don't go in there if you're if you are bossy or angry,
40:52
which you deserve to be angry, and I understand that, but everybody has
40:57
been wronged, everybody, so just have mercy. Realize they may not be
41:04
where you're at yet. This is just planting the seed, and so you
41:09
know it seems futile a lot. However, if not, you then who
41:17
if you don't do it, who will do it? So that is that
41:23
kind of the practical part you're talking about, like get involved locally and you're
41:28
you're electing and helping with campaigns with your local get righteous leaders in. It
41:34
matters in that small area because one county can stand up against a governor like
41:38
they did in Illinois during the mass mandates, right one county. And you
41:47
know in Matthew Trella's book, it talks about Petronius standing up I think in
41:54
thirty nine AD. I think, but stood up for the Jewish people when
42:01
Caligula wanted to put his own image in their temple. And they they were
42:07
just they were beside themselves, and they pleaded and pleaded to Petronius and he
42:13
stood between the Roman army and the Jewish people and he told Caligula no.
42:19
And you know, Caligila was kind of crazy and pretty angry, and so
42:22
obviously he was going to kill him. However, divine intervention, he was
42:30
he was out of office. Well it was murder, but he was out
42:35
of office. Uh before the order came to Petronius to suicide himself came from
42:42
Caligula. So you know, God had his hand in there and and protected
42:46
an entire people and a governor who stood up. Yes, the practice of
42:52
into position. And I think we'll come back to that actually, because that
42:55
that is really significant, and I do want to go into the sort of
42:59
fiel of it specifically with regard to what you've been doing, but I think
43:04
for the audience to make sense of exactly what it is that you have done.
43:07
Obviously, you've talked a lot about being able to take failure on the
43:10
chin and just continuing to go forward. Can you of the successes that you
43:15
have had when you just pick effectively a case study to just describe how it
43:20
was that you achieved that success, what the reception was, what follow up
43:23
actions there were, and how that sort of affected the campaign in general and
43:28
indeed the area within which you had that success. Wow, you asked such
43:34
really good questions. You ask really good, nuts and bold questions. Okay,
43:38
let's just say my counting. I started getting involved a little bit locally,
43:45
trying to help elect really good, righteous leaders. I met my legislators.
43:51
I you know, I wasn't there to just demand everything. I also
43:54
wanted to just meet them. This is over time and then and bolts in
44:00
twenty twenty one, when we could tell that this injection was really murdering people,
44:12
I meet and two other amazing moms put together just an educational seminar.
44:22
We invited a whole lot of legislators. It wasn't about getting the amount of
44:25
people there. It wasn't about you know, we've spent our own money.
44:30
Okay, we each spent like four grand to make this happen to help save
44:36
humanity in our state. Also, we invited you know, this is sort
44:42
of how I kind of met a lot of people too. I mean,
44:44
we invited people like Lieutenant Colonel Teresa Long and see, you could do something
44:49
like this on zoom even you don't have to have them in person. We
44:52
had people come in person and meet our legislators and plant the seeds. We
44:57
had National Guard members, we had other military members. We had Doc Chambers,
45:04
We had Tom Wrenz. Stephen Pellick, who is a really smart guy
45:10
up in British Columbia, and he showed at that time that the more injections
45:16
you take, the more immunal compromise you are. In his laboratory studies and
45:22
we had let's see, oh US freedom flyers, you know, Joshyoder just
45:30
really amazing people. And then we had we invited local injured okay, who
45:35
had been injured all by hospital policies okay, the room di severe and ventilators
45:39
and things like that, or had lost their loved one because of that,
45:45
and so basically the policy uh injured and then the families who have lost someone.
45:53
It was all local, and our legislators had that seed planted, many
46:01
of them, not all. I'd say that time there was about twelve.
46:04
Well that's pretty good commissioners. And so in that in that meeting was a
46:10
new commissioner and you know he's a and I just I think the world of
46:19
that. This is, you know, somebody you can just see how God
46:22
put him in place because he's a rancher, just a regular guy with a
46:27
valiant heart. And he was in that meeting and I saw him walk out
46:31
with you know, this thick of notes from that all day affair of learning
46:38
from these scientists, these injured, the local victims. You know, we
46:44
had Kyle Warner there who was a he's kind of a famous Idaho mountain biker
46:50
and he got myocarditis. He will never be a professional mountain biker again.
46:53
And he got to share his story and Doug Cameron, my colleague who goes
46:59
with me a lot to the count he is injured. He was the rancher
47:01
of ten thousand acre, He of a ten thousand acre farm, and he
47:07
basically is in a wheelchair within a week or so of his injection, and
47:14
his job fired him, just fired him. Well, sorry, we forced
47:16
you to get this shot, and now you're fired and you're gonna be in
47:19
a wheelchair and you're gonna pay for that yourself because we're not going to help
47:22
you. And that happened right here in Idaho, and so it moved this
47:27
particular commissioner. So this is why every little effort you do is a seed
47:31
planted. So fast forward, we start going to the counties, and that
47:39
commissioner was in our board of commissioners in my county, so he was already
47:47
prepped with some more information in the average bear. And it takes a lot
47:54
of exposure to learn or wrap your mind around the level of deceeed and real
48:01
misinformation and the level of harm that this technology does to a human at the
48:10
cellular level and also neurological, hematological, cardiovascular, and autoimmune and so on.
48:19
But it took about four visits, maybe three, three or four two
48:30
actually have this process finished. But I just would make the appointments. We'd
48:35
go and do a presentation and then sometimes they would just have me come in
48:42
to just contend more like give them more information. They don't want the whole
48:45
science team, and I just go in by myself. And of course,
48:50
just so you know, not really by myself. My husband always goes with
48:53
me or a friend because the nature of the dark side, I'm pretty stealth
49:00
and people don't really know me, which is great. I'm not even on
49:04
internet or social media. But my husband always goes in and watch the watches
49:08
the back of the door, so nobody shoots me in the head. So
49:12
you got to have a friend with you, and you know, and that's
49:14
the fearless part you got, you know, you just you gotta do it.
49:19
You know who if not, then you? And then so how did
49:22
that come about? Well, so after after a few presentations with our county
49:30
and and more and more people to you know, tell your friends that are
49:35
awake when they when you have a full room of supporters, because more and
49:40
more people would show up to these to support it and to support what we're
49:46
asking. So then with a full room of people that will stand behind these
49:53
commissioners or these local lesser magistrates, and they have I have to know that
50:00
you will not abandon them once they join or say yes to what you're talking
50:07
about. So we had planted seeds, and those seeds grew, and he
50:12
contended for us as well, this commissioner and the other commissioner's. You know,
50:16
life is happening, p everybody is almost I would say, what there
50:21
was a poll? Was it a poll that doctor McCullough was talking about that
50:24
over near don't quote me on it, but twenty nine percent ish of people
50:30
knew somebody harmed by the shot. I mean never in history. It's a
50:35
crap show of medicine. Is this shot and everybody, you know, just
50:40
pulling up to a gas station. You know, you can ask somebody about
50:45
the shot and they've got a blind friend in the car, or their son's
50:50
you know friend got caught myocarditis or a cardiac arrest at twenty nine. You
50:55
know, it's constant. I hear something every single day in colleagues. They
51:01
have MENSI issues, Mensi's issues, fertility issues, they have blood pressure issues,
51:07
just the minor things even and then there's the major things, you know,
51:12
so the nuts and bolts. Sorry I get sidetracked. And so they
51:19
voted yes, but when And I also want to point out the doctrine of
51:22
the lesser magistrates, Okay, because the reason why you have all precedents to
51:29
ask at the lower levels is because when you can ask your lesser magistrates to
51:37
stand up for its citizens when the higher authorities of the land have failed to
51:44
do so, you have no recourse except to go at the next level down.
51:52
You know, you you, if you're governor or your federal government or
51:59
higher levels of authority have failed you, you have every right, with historical
52:02
and biblical precedents to approach your lesser magistrates to make interposition for you to stand
52:08
in the gap between that a tyrannical policy, law, practice, uh action
52:19
and they and it is also their duty. You know, they have been
52:23
policed there by their citizens. The citizens voted for them because they believe in
52:34
their work, ethic, character, and judgment. A lesser magistrate or any
52:39
legislator for that matter, is not a terrible person if they don't agree with
52:45
you, because you're not. They're not there to do your exact bidding or
52:51
placate you. You know, they they are there to exercise work ethic,
52:55
their good judgment and their their good character. And if they don't have those,
53:00
and you vote them out and you vote in somebody that does, or
53:02
you run yourself and try, you know, because you want to get a
53:07
righteous leader in, even at the ground level, because they are the last
53:12
thing between the last agency between you and a tyrannical government. So the lesser
53:21
magistrates I think are really the main answer here, and that also means at
53:28
a state level. In our presentations you can see that especially Socialottipova's work in
53:37
Catherine Watts, they are just brilliant researchers and they show that this whole narrative
53:49
actually sort of has its roots in a DOOD operation, you know, coming
53:53
from BARTA DARPA, but especially and then the BacT runs interference. So the
54:04
average person is never going to be able to take on the highest levels of
54:07
say the UK government or they're you know in the US, it's it's our
54:14
our federal government, our US adual government. How can they beat d O
54:20
D You know, maybe, but it'll take ten years. I've got injured,
54:25
dying and sick every day. We all have a path to take.
54:31
And I feel that the average person can change the course of the history of
54:39
their family and their state, maybe their nation if others follow. But it's
54:46
on us to affect where we live. And so the county commissioners can hold
54:53
the line against a governor of a state, even the federal government, and
54:58
so can their sheriffs. We have a very constitutional sheriff in our county.
55:05
And so that's how this all happened here. It's a conversation, it's planting
55:10
seeds. It is not one conversation and done, you know. So that's
55:16
kind of the how the influence grew and grew and grew, and then our
55:22
ag saw us. So see, when our state legislators are finally able to
55:30
make legislation and they know that the people will stand behind them when they do
55:37
interposition for us, when they stand up for us, we have to stand
55:42
behind them. You can't just like say yeah, I go for it,
55:45
you know, don't let the door hit you in the butt. You have
55:49
to stand behind those commissioners and those state legislators. And if you are blessed
55:54
to have a governor who will fight for your humanity and your genetic cellular integrity,
56:00
and your families and your freedom. Will you know what a blessing.
56:07
But essentially it's one thing to beg for them to or ask them, you
56:16
know, wholeheartedly, to stand in the gap for you. Remember you still
56:22
have a job too, and that is to stand behind them or beside them,
56:28
whoever stands up for your community. You've got to support them. Don't
56:31
sit there and watch them on the internet. Go ask them, how can
56:37
I help you know? Can I donate? Can I Can I go with
56:45
you and just be a body in there so they know people are watching.
56:49
So I'll say I when nobody shows up at the UH, when it's just
56:52
me and my husband, are the all the two people in the board of
56:54
Commissioners, it's it's almost always a no because nobody's watching, nobody's It shows
57:02
that their community won't stand behind them because they're not interested or fearful or whatever,
57:08
but they don't care because they're not there in the room watching this proceeding.
57:13
I think, Laurie, you've explained that beautifully, particularly the way in
57:17
which the doctrine of the lesser Magistrates should play out and the way in which
57:22
we all need to pay attention to it, and or no you're just going
57:24
to tell us about the five pillar approach and just run through that sort of
57:29
step by step for us. Yes, sir, it's essentially the way that
57:35
I am able to sort of share how to assess what will unfold and how
57:45
it's being done in the five pillar approach. First, of course, depopulation
57:51
when you look at the books and the beliefs or religious beliefs of essentially the
58:02
the agencies that do this. The second is a transfer of wealth. All
58:10
my injured lose almost everything for the rest of their life. There will be
58:16
a transfer of wealth to the people that did this to them, uh,
58:21
to to just stay alive and unless we find a cure for that technology.
58:28
The transfer of wealth also also a cure occurs as well in war uh you
58:32
know the immense money through Ukraine and whatnot. You know, the transfer of
58:42
wealth is also occurring through inflationary pressures. It's also occurring through as we can
58:49
see through Foyer requests. A lot of COVID money went to a lot of
58:53
agencies, uh, to health health agencies and like the medical associations in various
59:04
and also as Thorpe Maggie Thorpe and doctor James Thorpe showed through therefore year request
59:09
over thirteen billion to local agencies, including some churches, right to force and
59:17
push coerce, you know, say things like Jesus would take this shot,
59:22
stuff like that, which is a lie. His immune system is perfect,
59:25
he wouldn't have taken this shot, and he made us with in his image.
59:32
So the third is can you can see, of course, the push
59:37
for digital currency worldwide UK, they've already I'm sorry, in the European Union.
59:46
You can see that if you buy something over a thousand dollars with cash,
59:51
you can go to jail and things like that. It will also be
59:53
able to be controlled, because this is what's in their books, this is
59:55
what's in their conferences, in anybody that watches their conferences, this is just
1:00:01
literally from their words. So that control aspect of every agency, the regulatory
1:00:10
agency, control, you know, the media brought to you by advisor,
1:00:15
the money, the monetary control. So it's it's a big deal. A
1:00:22
lot of it is about control. And then the fourth is transhumanism. I
1:00:28
in their conferences and if you follow a lot of statements and conferences from Noah
1:00:35
Yuval Harari UH and the World Health Organization conferences. Literally they have people step
1:00:42
up there and say, I can't wait to be a cyborg, and they
1:00:45
talk about living forever. There's a major uh AI and uh transhumanism push at
1:00:54
the cellular level. And so it's in their conferences, it's in their on
1:01:01
their websites of you in World Health Organization websites and goals. And the fifth
1:01:08
is it's an anti God agenda. So that's the fifth pillar, and that
1:01:14
is really the one that you can sort of you know, the every you
1:01:21
know, I see things through a faith lens. So everything in the Bible
1:01:23
is true. And what has not unfolded yet, I think there's about ten
1:01:29
percent that hasn't and it will. You can't change the Bible, however,
1:01:37
it is a great insight to what will unfold. And I had to and
1:01:40
I just so you know, I had a dear friend who is Hindu,
1:01:45
and they said, you know, you can always tell what the dark side
1:01:52
is going to do because everything they do is in your Bible, and then
1:01:58
everything they do is against that of your Bible. And you know, it's
1:02:02
very telling because you know, we love God loves babies. So this shot
1:02:08
destroys babies at over an eighty seven percent miscarriage rate. According to doctor James
1:02:15
Thorpe and doctor Biss and their studies, it's uh be fruitful and multiply well.
1:02:28
The shot hurts the fertility of the human beings, and the Japanese distribution
1:02:35
study showed that it goes straight to the ovaries and the testies is including the
1:02:38
brain and bone marrow and all the organs. But the fact that they don't
1:02:44
know what it will do to our generations and yet we're forced to take it.
1:02:52
The earth is for God's creation, and the dark Syde essentially sees us
1:03:01
as a virus as opposed to the fact that this is a gift to us,
1:03:07
and it's more Gaya worship and earth worship. Instead of worshiping the Creator,
1:03:12
it's worshiping creation. So anyway, publicly in county commissioner meetings or even
1:03:17
in a public forum, we don't go that far because it's already too hard
1:03:23
to wrap around the fact that this shot has over twelve hundred adverse effects in
1:03:30
sequel. So we're just trying to we're still at step one proving it's bad,
1:03:37
don't take it, and how do we fix how it has hurt all
1:03:45
these beautiful people so that's where we're at, and I don't normally go into
1:03:50
the five pillars. I was just going to tell you that because you know,
1:03:52
it's kind of how you can tell what's going to happen next. So
1:03:58
for the rest of the day, still only scratch the surface of your incredibly
1:04:02
intrepid and well thought out experiences and campaigns. But sadly we can't talk for
1:04:10
the rest of the day. What I am going to do is tell the
1:04:13
audience what you wrote to me in an email. We've been corresponding over the
1:04:16
last few months, and you described yourself as or rather by saying, I'm
1:04:24
no expert, just a nurse that lives in rural Idaho that will go out
1:04:28
swinging. And I think i'd have to disagree with you on a few of
1:04:32
those points, or at least specifically the expert. I think you have generated
1:04:39
an astonishing degree of expertise. But the way in which you've fulfilled the courage
1:04:46
of your convictions is a real example to everybody, and I get the sense
1:04:51
that an enormous amount of momentum has built. So I think the audience will
1:04:57
be very captivated by that. Now I will keep in touch, should do,
1:05:00
but what I'd like to be able to do is to give the audience
1:05:02
an idea of where they can go to keep an eye on what well,
1:05:10
obviously to get a bit more detail on what you've done and how you've done
1:05:13
it, and indeed what your plans are. So can you direct us towards
1:05:18
the places to find that information? Well, I'll do my best on that.
1:05:25
I I actually I don't have my own website or anything, sir.
1:05:30
I just help as many people as I can, and I can give my
1:05:33
email, and I can also give the We the People fifty dot com.
1:05:38
That's kind of my colleague Chancy Lindsay. She goes with me to almost everyone
1:05:45
of the presentations. And you know, we also are open to helping anyone
1:05:49
else that wants to go give a presentation, you know, reach out to
1:05:54
me. We will will gather a few of our scientists and just do our
1:05:59
best or give you help. You have information to put on the thumb drive
1:06:02
that you give your legislators or your commissioners or your local magistrates. So it's
1:06:10
we the it's we the People fifty dot com. And that is doctor you
1:06:15
know Jancy Lindsay's group, We the People fifty and her and I kind of,
1:06:19
you know, team up a lot, and my email is l Dema
1:06:26
ray are In at ProtonMail dot com. And also, if you are injured,
1:06:39
I just want to point you to the React nineteen website. I don't
1:06:43
know if you've heard about them, but they have already over thirty six thousand
1:06:46
members here in America of injured from this shot and there. It's just they're
1:06:56
the only you know, there's a few people helping my precious injured. You
1:07:00
are not alone. People are fighting for you. The REACT nineteen also has
1:07:09
they don't they advocate, they do research, but they also have a care
1:07:13
fund that actually helps give injured a scholarship to get treatment where they want to.
1:07:18
They help connect people to doctors. It's I mean, of course,
1:07:21
you know it's it's just a resource. I just we haven't fixed it all
1:07:27
yet, but I just want people to know that there is someone out there,
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a place where they can go to get studies to be Do you have
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some TLC super Laura? Thank you very much. I'll make sure that all
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those links and notes and the rest of it, including your email address,
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of course, will be posted with the interview at UK column dot org.
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So please do make sure that you share all the relevant links and this interview
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will enable us to produce interviews of such quality as this, And it just
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reminds me to thank Laura very very much indeed for giving an amazing insight and
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a real education and inspiration. Thank you very much, Thank you so much
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for having me, Charles, and thank you for everything you're doing. You
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are so brave, and I just and you're so professional and you're so kind,
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so thank you for having me.