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- 0:09The person was detained last week by
- 0:11federal immigration and customs
- 0:12enforcement officers in Kyle.
- 0:14The man had to be transported to the
- 0:16hospital, according to local police,
- 0:18and the KUT newsroom is working to
- 0:19get more details on the story.
- 0:21We're going to share the latest
- 0:23updates.
- 0:24And an attorney for the student who
- 0:25was deported while flying back to
- 0:26Austin for a holiday says the
- 0:28federal government admitted it
- 0:30violated a court order when it
- 0:32sent her to Honduras.
- 0:33Any Lopez-Vellosa, an Austin-raised
- 0:35student at Babson College outside of
- 0:37Boston was detained after trying to
- 0:39fly home before Thanksgiving.
- 0:41We're gonna have more about her
- 0:42story and her status on today's
- 0:44show.
- 0:45The Austin Signal is a production
- 0:47of KUT News, hosted by
- 0:49Jerry Quijano.
- 0:50And it's Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
- 0:52Day. We're gonna hear from him.
- 0:54That's coming up on Austin Signal.
- 1:10Howdy out there, thank you for
- 1:11tuning in.
- 1:13This is Austin Signal, it's January
- 1:1519th, Martin Luther King
- 1:17Jr.
- 1:18Day. Thanks for spending part of it
- 1:19here with us.
- 1:20We've got a lot to share with you on
- 1:22today's show, including Dr.
- 1:24King's voice himself coming up a bit
- 1:26later. For now, let's get you an
- 1:27update from the KUT newsroom.
- 1:29Austin's long-delayed light rail
- 1:31project just got a crucial
- 1:33green light this month from the
- 1:34Trump administration.
- 1:35Federal transportation officials
- 1:36have formally signed off on the
- 1:38project's lengthy environmental
- 1:39review.
- 1:40It clears a major hurdle for Project
- 1:42Connect after years of lawsuits and
- 1:44political fights over the city's
- 1:459.8-mile starter
- 1:47system.
- 1:48We're going to have more about this
- 1:50at KUT.org, and
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- 1:56Let's get into today's show.
- 1:58Last Thursday, immigration and
- 2:00customs enforcement operations were
- 2:01conducted in the cities of Kyle and
- 2:03Buda. With one person and Kyle being
- 2:05taken to the hospital after their
- 2:07encounter with ICE officers.
- 2:08Since then, there have been several
- 2:10protests in the area against these
- 2:12operations.
- 2:13For more about what's been going on,
- 2:14we're speaking with Travis County
- 2:15reporter, Katy McAfee.
- 2:17Katy, thanks for coming on the show.
- 2:18Thanks for having me on Jerry.
- 2:19So let's get people caught up
- 2:21to speed on Friday.
- 2:23KUT News reported about a man who
- 2:24was detained by ICE and Kyle.
- 2:26Tell us the story.
- 2:27Yeah, so on Thursday, the
- 2:29Kyle Police Department released a
- 2:31statement saying a man was detained
- 2:33by ICE in the city and had to
- 2:35be sent to the hospital.
- 2:37I asked Hays County Judge Ruben
- 2:38Becerra about it, and these
- 2:41are his words. He said that the man
- 2:42was beat up by ICE and
- 2:44that he was bleeding from his face.
- 2:47We also obtained a video from a
- 2:48woman who was near the incident on
- 2:50Thursday morning.
- 2:51And just to be clear, we are still
- 2:52working on independently verifying
- 2:54that this video is of the same
- 2:56incident that we're talking about.
- 2:58And in that video, you can see three
- 3:00ICE agents on top of the one
- 3:02man, and they are all coming out
- 3:04of an unmarked car.
- 3:05Okay, but you said you haven't been
- 3:07able yet to verify that with local
- 3:08law enforcement.
- 3:09That's correct, but the emails have
- 3:11been sent.
- 3:11Okay, okay.
- 3:12So tell us that we're speaking about
- 3:13this one incident.
- 3:15What other ice activity has been
- 3:16going on in Hays County that we know
- 3:18about?
- 3:18Yeah, so we know that ICE was
- 3:20active in Buda, too.
- 3:23Buda city officials announced early
- 3:25Thursday morning that ICE intended
- 3:27to park at the city hall,
- 3:29but Buda officials asked them to
- 3:30park somewhere else.
- 3:31And in this announcement, they said
- 3:33that they are not involved in the
- 3:34operation at all.
- 3:37Other than that, Buda City officials
- 3:38wouldn't confirm what vehicle
- 3:40ICE is operating out of.
- 3:42But again, I talked to Judge Ruben
- 3:43Becerra about it, and he said they
- 3:45are out of a large, white,
- 3:47unmarked van.
- 3:48Okay, it seems Judge Ruben
- 3:50Becerra has been pretty outspoken
- 3:51since these operations have been
- 3:53going on.
- 3:54You said a few things there.
- 3:55What else have you heard from him?
- 3:57And what else have heard from Hays
- 3:58County officials about these
- 4:00operations?
- 4:01Yeah, Judge Becerra has definitely
- 4:02been among the more forthcoming
- 4:04officials in Hayes County about
- 4:06what's going on.
- 4:07I spoke with him on Friday about
- 4:08what happened.
- 4:09And a big takeaway from that
- 4:11conversation was he said he
- 4:12supports local law enforcement,
- 4:15but does not at all agree with how
- 4:17ICE is operating in the county.
- 4:19Here's a quote from that interview.
- 4:21He said, they are not trained in
- 4:23de-escalation.
- 4:24They are not trained on how to take
- 4:25someone down.
- 4:26They're not trained as we would
- 4:27expect them to be.
- 4:28They're being run through like if it
- 4:30was the draft and we were in
- 4:32Vietnam.
- 4:33What have you heard from local
- 4:34activist groups in Hayes County?
- 4:36Yeah, local groups and, you know,
- 4:38even just people in the neighborhood
- 4:40have been very outspoken about
- 4:41what's happening.
- 4:43Even Friday morning, right after
- 4:44this incident that we've been
- 4:46reporting on happened, there were
- 4:47people protesting ICE at a busy
- 4:49intersection.
- 4:50And then yesterday,
- 4:52orgAnyzation Mano Amiga, they held a
- 4:54protest that more than 100 people
- 4:56ended up showing out to.
- 4:59And local activists, the message
- 5:00that they've really been pushing was
- 5:02for people to know their rights.
- 5:03And another thing they've been
- 5:04saying a lot is telling people
- 5:06to use their phones to protect
- 5:08them and record any ice activity
- 5:10they see.
- 5:11The KUT newsroom has been working to
- 5:12bring coverage on these protests
- 5:14both on the website kut.org
- 5:16as well as our social media
- 5:17channels.
- 5:18I'm guessing that these protests are
- 5:20likely to continue.
- 5:21What do we know so far about protest
- 5:23activity this week in Hayes County
- 5:24or even here in Austin?
- 5:25Yeah, definitely.
- 5:27We do know about a protest here
- 5:29in Austin happening tomorrow
- 5:30afternoon, and I believe there is
- 5:32another one that will be led by the
- 5:33Party of Socialism and Liberation.
- 5:35That one's scheduled on Friday, and
- 5:37we're keeping an eye out for any
- 5:39others.
- 5:39Okay well speaking of keeping an eye
- 5:40out, there's a lot transpiring
- 5:42in the story again.
- 5:44The incident happened Friday, we
- 5:45first reported on, excuse me, the
- 5:46incident happened on Thursday.
- 5:48We first reported about it on
- 5:49Friday.
- 5:50What else are you following?
- 5:51What else is the KUT News following,
- 5:53KUT newsroom following in regards
- 5:55to this story?
- 5:56Yeah, we're definitely not done
- 5:58covering the story.
- 5:59There's a lot to follow up on.
- 6:00We need to follow-up on the status
- 6:01of the man who was detained and
- 6:03hospitalized by ICE on Thursday
- 6:05morning.
- 6:06We're asking the Sheriff's
- 6:07Department about any others who were
- 6:09detained over the weekend.
- 6:11And another thing I'm trying to find
- 6:12out is if ICE is still stationed in
- 6:14Hays County or where else in central
- 6:15Texas they might be.
- 6:17Okay well we have been speaking with
- 6:18Travis County reporter Katy McAfee
- 6:20again.
- 6:21KUT Newsroom has been doing coverage
- 6:23online on our website kut.org
- 6:25on the KUT app and on our
- 6:27social media channels and I'm sure
- 6:28that will continue to be the case.
- 6:29We had some great help from our
- 6:31multimedia team this weekend as
- 6:33well as Katy. You can find more of
- 6:34her reporting at kut
- 6:36dot org and we're going to have a
- 6:37link in the podcast show notes as
- 6:39well. Katy thanks for coming on the
- 6:41show.
- 6:41Thanks for having me on Jury.
- 6:5119-Year-old Any Lucia Lopez
- 6:52Bellosa fled Honduras with her
- 6:54mother when she was 7 years old.
- 6:56She grew up in Austin, where her
- 6:58parents still live, and while
- 6:59attending her fall semester of
- 7:01college in Boston, tried to surprise
- 7:03them with a visit for Thanksgiving.
- 7:05She was arrested by ICE officials at
- 7:06the airport, and despite a court
- 7:08order, flown to Texas, then deported
- 7:10within a span of 48 hours.
- 7:12Now, the U.S.
- 7:14Government is admitting it made a
- 7:15mistake by violating that court
- 7:17order. For more, we are
- 7:18talking with KUT's government
- 7:20accountability reporter, Andrew
- 7:21Weber. Andrew, thanks for coming on
- 7:23the show.
- 7:23Of course. Thanks, sir.
- 7:24So, where did this apology happen?
- 7:27Simply happened in federal court
- 7:29and that's important because this
- 7:31is a case that has drawn a lot of
- 7:33attention nationally and, um,
- 7:35from, I will, I will note from like
- 7:37a lot bipartisan lawmakers,
- 7:39lawmakers on both sides of the aisle
- 7:40at state and federal levels have
- 7:42come out and, and sort of questioned
- 7:45why Lopez Belloza was, was
- 7:47detained and deported.
- 7:48And we had you on the show talking,
- 7:50I guess it was probably last
- 7:53month, and we heard a little
- 7:55bit then from Any's lawyer, what was
- 7:57the lawyer's reaction to the
- 7:58apology?
- 7:59Yeah, her attorney, Todd Pomerleau,
- 8:01was very surprised by this.
- 8:03These are sorts of cases that,
- 8:05you know, don't get a lot of this,
- 8:06like, sort of attention, uh,
- 8:09and certainly this, in
- 8:11this sort of political climate, um,
- 8:13with ICE, you know, going into
- 8:14cities in which cities, uh city
- 8:16officials don't want them.
- 8:17He was surprised to hear that.
- 8:20Attorneys for the federal government
- 8:21were basically lying
- 8:23prostrate before the judge and
- 8:25saying, we're sorry.
- 8:28They can say yes, they can say no.
- 8:29They've said sorry.
- 8:31They didn't go to court the other
- 8:32day and be like, nope, dismiss the
- 8:33case. We're not saying we're sorry.
- 8:35They could have taken that approach
- 8:37and I'm gonna recognize it for what
- 8:38it is. It's an act of contrition
- 8:41and I am gonna assume good faith.
- 8:43Before this apology, I wasn't
- 8:45assuming good faith
- 8:47That was a reaction from her lawyer,
- 8:49Todd Pomerleau.
- 8:50Again, Any also had a reaction to
- 8:52that apology. Here she is in an
- 8:53interview with CNN.
- 8:55Hearing that they have apologized
- 8:57to the mistake that they've made,
- 8:59I accept their apologies and I hope
- 9:01that based on this apology I'm
- 9:03able to return back to my studies
- 9:05and also to be home with
- 9:07my parents.
- 9:09Andrew, what do we know about where
- 9:10Any is right now?
- 9:12We know that she's in Honduras.
- 9:14Our previous reporting, the last
- 9:16time I checked with Todd Palmerlo,
- 9:17he said that she was with her
- 9:18grandparents.
- 9:20Now this is not the first time it
- 9:21has been reported that ICE violates
- 9:23a judicial order.
- 9:25Does this apology mean that we
- 9:26are likely to see less mistakes like
- 9:29this in the future?
- 9:30That's a good question.
- 9:31And I don't have an immediate answer
- 9:33for it in, in this motion that
- 9:35they filed, they apologized,
- 9:38which is really kind of an
- 9:39administrative apology.
- 9:40It's not, you know, obviously it's
- 9:41not a direct apology to Lopez
- 9:43Belloza.
- 9:44It's an apology to her attorney,
- 9:46Todd Palmerlo, but they,
- 9:48they basically pinned all of this on
- 9:50an employee who didn't know
- 9:52that there was this order to
- 9:54keep on a, in the
- 9:56country for at least 72 hours.
- 9:58So I don't really think that there's
- 10:00necessarily any broad, you know,
- 10:01sort of sweeping impact
- 10:03as it relates to this apology, but
- 10:06it does sort of tee up
- 10:08this case going forward.
- 10:11And specifically, Todd, the
- 10:13attorney, Todd Pomelo, filed a
- 10:15motion Friday, right
- 10:17after I talked to him, and he laid
- 10:19out how this could go forward.
- 10:22But the remedy they were proposing
- 10:24is inadequate.
- 10:25They were saying, look, we retrained
- 10:26our staff at ICE and what to do with
- 10:28a court order.
- 10:30I mean, okay, that's
- 10:32prospective harm, right?
- 10:34You're fixing,
- 10:36you know, hopefully there's another,
- 10:37there's not another Annie Lopez that
- 10:38gets illegally deported in the
- 10:39future. That's great.
- 10:40You did something remedial to fix
- 10:42future problems.
- 10:43What about what you did to her?
- 10:45And that's really where we're at
- 10:47right now. And the judge, and I
- 10:48think the judge recognized this too,
- 10:49because he was kind of like, look
- 10:50she's a college student, she got a
- 10:52full ride.
- 10:53You know, is this still available?
- 10:56Okay, Andrew, last question.
- 10:57You mentioned teeing up the case.
- 10:59Where does Any's case go from
- 11:01here? Does the apology affect it
- 11:03in any way?
- 11:04The apology does affect it in that
- 11:05the federal government is not going
- 11:06to be held in contemptive court,
- 11:08which is obviously, you
- 11:10know, good for their argument.
- 11:13But within that motion that
- 11:15Todd filed, that Todd Pomerleau
- 11:17filed, I should say, he laid
- 11:18out a couple of options, one of
- 11:20which would be she can return to the
- 11:21U.S. And she would be under sort
- 11:23of supervision, sort of like parole.
- 11:26Another would be that she
- 11:28is allowed to return to country
- 11:30while her application for a green
- 11:32card is being processed.
- 11:33And she can go back to school and
- 11:35back to her life.
- 11:37All right, we have been speaking
- 11:37with KUT's government accountability
- 11:39reporter, Andrew Weber, you can find
- 11:41his story at kut.org.
- 11:43And again, we'll have more in our
- 11:44podcast show notes.
- 11:45Andrew, thanks for coming on the
- 11:46show. Thank you, Jerry.
- 11:55It is Martin Luther King Jr.
- 11:57Day, and here in Austin the city
- 11:59marked the return of the annual MLK
- 12:01Day March.
- 12:02That march was canceled the last
- 12:03couple of years because of inclement
- 12:05weather.
- 12:06And though the day is still chilly,
- 12:07the sun was shining as thousands of
- 12:09marchers gathered at the Capitol to
- 12:11start their journey to Houston
- 12:12Tillotson University.
- 12:14Here is Joya Hayes, Capitol March
- 12:16coordinator with the Austin Area
- 12:17Heritage Council, and puts on the
- 12:19event.
- 12:21Dr. King believed that progress
- 12:23begins when ordinary
- 12:25people come together with peaceful,
- 12:27respectful ways to serve their
- 12:28communities and stand up for
- 12:31human dignity.
- 12:32This day is not just about what's
- 12:34going wrong.
- 12:35This is not a day to just
- 12:37look at the politics of America.
- 12:40This is a day for us to have shared
- 12:41values, kindness,
- 12:44service, unity and hope.
- 12:46Participating in this march and
- 12:48rally is a way to reflect those
- 12:50values, to show up for
- 12:52one another and to reaffirm
- 12:54the positive change that
- 12:56starts when we choose to walk
- 12:58forward together.
- 12:59The festival portion of the event
- 13:01goes until 4pm today at
- 13:03Houston Tillotson University.
- 13:06We're going to have more about MLK
- 13:08Day coming up after this break.
- 13:10You're listening to Austin Signal.
- 13:16This is Austin Signal.
- 13:18Thank you for spending part of your
- 13:19Monday.
- 13:20Again, it is Martin Luther King Jr.
- 13:22Day. And we wanted to celebrate
- 13:24with a little something special to
- 13:26wrap up today's episode.
- 13:28So we needed the help of
- 13:30the one and only John L.
- 13:32Hanson Jr.
- 13:33He is the host of the podcast
- 13:35in Black America produced right
- 13:37here at KUT KUTX Studios.
- 13:39John has a little remembrance and a
- 13:41little audio from Dr. King himself.
- 13:43Let's pass it on over to John.
- 13:54Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
- 13:56Is considered by many as the father
- 13:58of the civil rights movement.
- 14:00Born on Tuesday, January 15,
- 14:021929 at the family home
- 14:04in Atlanta, Georgia.
- 14:06He was christened Michael Luther
- 14:08King, but in 1934,
- 14:10Daddy King changed his name after
- 14:12young Martin experienced racial
- 14:14prejudice.
- 14:16In 1944, at the age of 15,
- 14:18he graduated high school and entered
- 14:19Morehouse College in Atlanta.
- 14:21With intention on becoming a medical
- 14:23doctor, but changed his mind
- 14:25in his junior year.
- 14:27In April 1948, King received
- 14:30his bachelor's degree in sociology
- 14:32at Intercrojitheological
- 14:34Seminary in Chester, PennsylvAnya.
- 14:37In May 1951, he graduated
- 14:39with a bachelor's of divinity degree
- 14:40and as valedictorian and
- 14:43student body president.
- 14:45In 1955, he earned his
- 14:47doctorate in systematic theology
- 14:48from Boston University.
- 14:51In spring 1963,
- 14:53King's nonviolent tactics were put
- 14:54to their most severe test in
- 14:56Birmingham, Alabama during a
- 14:58mass protest for fair hiring
- 15:00practices and the desegregation
- 15:02of department stores.
- 15:04Police brutality used against the
- 15:06march had dramatized the plight of
- 15:07African Americans to the nation at
- 15:09large with enormous impact.
- 15:11King and others were arrested
- 15:13but his voice was not silent.
- 15:15While in his cell, he read a
- 15:17published statement by eight Alabama
- 15:18clergymen that criticized his
- 15:20activities as untimely and
- 15:22unwise.
- 15:23On the margins of the newspaper, he
- 15:25composed his classic reply letter
- 15:27from a Birmingham jail to
- 15:29refute his critics.
- 15:30In your statement, you assert that
- 15:32our actions, even though
- 15:34peaceful, must be condemned
- 15:36because they precipitate
- 15:38violence.
- 15:39But is this a logical assertion?
- 15:41Isn't this like condemning a robbed
- 15:43man?
- 15:44Because his possession of money
- 15:46precipitated the evil act of
- 15:47robbery? Isn't is like condeming
- 15:49Socrates because his
- 15:51unswerving commitment to truth
- 15:53and his philosophical
- 15:55inquiries precipitated
- 15:57the act by the misguided
- 15:59populace in which they made
- 16:01him drink hemlock,
- 16:03isn't this like condemning Jesus
- 16:04because his unique God consciousness
- 16:07and never ceasing devotion
- 16:09to God's will precipitated
- 16:11the evil act of crucifixion?
- 16:14More and more, I feel
- 16:16that the people of ill will
- 16:18have used time much more
- 16:20effectively than have
- 16:22the people good will.
- 16:24We will have to repent in this
- 16:26generation.
- 16:27Not merely for the hateful
- 16:29words and actions of
- 16:31the bad people but
- 16:33for the appalling silence of
- 16:35the good people.
- 16:36Now is the time to
- 16:39make real the promise of democracy
- 16:41and transform our
- 16:43pending national elegy
- 16:45into a creative psalm
- 16:47of brotherhood.
- 16:49Now is time to
- 16:51lift our national policy from
- 16:53the quicksand of racial injustice
- 16:55to the solid rock.
- 16:57Of human dignity.
- 16:58I have no fear about the outcome
- 17:00of our struggle in Birmingham,
- 17:03even if our motives are
- 17:04at present misunderstood.
- 17:06We will reach the goal of freedom in
- 17:08Birmingham and all over the nation,
- 17:11because the goal in America is
- 17:13freedom.
- 17:14Abused and scorned though we
- 17:16may be, our
- 17:18destiny is tied up
- 17:20with America's destiny.
- 17:22Before the pilgrims landed
- 17:24at Plymouth, we were here.
- 17:27Before the pen of Jefferson etched
- 17:29the majestic words of the
- 17:31Declaration of Independence across
- 17:33the pages of history we were
- 17:35here.
- 17:36For more than two centuries our
- 17:38forebears labored in this country
- 17:39without wages.
- 17:41They made cotton king,
- 17:43they built the homes of their
- 17:44masters, while suffering
- 17:46gross injustice and shameful
- 17:48humiliation.
- 17:50And yet out of a bottomless
- 17:51vitality, they continued
- 17:53to thrive and develop.
- 17:55If the inexpressible cruelties
- 17:58of slavery could not
- 18:00stop us, the opposition
- 18:02we now face will
- 18:04surely fail.
- 18:06We will win our freedom because
- 18:09the sacred heritage of our nation
- 18:11and the eternal will
- 18:13of the almighty God
- 18:14are embodied in
- 18:16our echoing demands.
- 18:19Never before have I written so
- 18:21long a letter.
- 18:22I'm afraid it is much too long
- 18:24to take your precious time.
- 18:27I can assure you that it would have
- 18:28been much shorter if I
- 18:30had been writing from a comfortable
- 18:32desk. But what else can one do
- 18:34when he is alone in a narrow jail
- 18:36cell other than write
- 18:38long letters, think
- 18:40long thoughts, and pray long
- 18:42prayers.
- 18:43If I have said anything in this
- 18:45letter that overstates the truth and
- 18:47indicates an unreasonable
- 18:49impatience, I beg you
- 18:51to forgive me.
- 18:52If I've said anything
- 18:54that understates the truth
- 18:56and indicates my having a
- 18:58patience that allows me to
- 19:00settle for anything less than
- 19:01brotherhood, I beg God
- 19:03to forgive me.
- 19:05I hope this letter finds you
- 19:07strong in the faith.
- 19:09I also hope that circumstances
- 19:11will soon make it possible for
- 19:13me to meet each of you, not
- 19:15as an integrationist or as a
- 19:17civil rights leader, but as
- 19:18a fellow clergyman and
- 19:20a Christian brother.
- 19:22Let us all hope that the dark clouds
- 19:24of racial prejudice will
- 19:26soon pass away, and
- 19:28the deep fog of misunderstanding
- 19:30will be lifted from our
- 19:32fear-drenched communities,
- 19:34and in some not too distant
- 19:35tomorrow, the radiant stars
- 19:38of love and brotherhood will
- 19:40shine over our great nation
- 19:42with all their scintillating
- 19:44beauty.
- 19:45Yours for the cause of peace and
- 19:47brother-hood, Martin Luther King,
- 19:49Jr.
- 19:50In 1957 in New Orleans
- 19:52seeking to build upon the success of
- 19:54the Montgomery Bus Boycott with
- 19:56the hope of upgrading the status of
- 19:58southern blacks and America's poor,
- 20:00King summed together a number of
- 20:01black leaders to lay the foundation
- 20:03for the orgAnyzation now known
- 20:05as the Southern Christian Leadership
- 20:06Conference, SCLC.
- 20:09King was elected its first president
- 20:11and he soon began helping other
- 20:12communities orgAnyze their own
- 20:14protest against discrimination.
- 20:16The Honorable Andrew Young, former
- 20:18Mayor of Atlanta and U.S.
- 20:20Ambassador, was one of King's most
- 20:21trusted advisors.
- 20:22Looking back on it, we think of
- 20:24those as the best days of our lives.
- 20:26Actually at the time it was,
- 20:29we really didn't know what we were
- 20:30doing, we knew things were wrong
- 20:33and that somebody had to
- 20:34do something about it and we just
- 20:36stumbled along from one thing to the
- 20:38other until we found a way to make
- 20:39it work.
- 20:41And fortunately most of us had
- 20:43read a lot about India and
- 20:46we understood some of the on violent
- 20:48methods of Gandhi.
- 20:49And we just experimented until
- 20:51we found out how to orgAnyze people.
- 20:53Nobody was trained as an orgAnyzer.
- 20:55We knew the black community.
- 20:58We knew cities that we were working
- 21:00in fairly well.
- 21:02And we learned gradually over
- 21:04a period of time how to get things
- 21:06done. What type of impact did the
- 21:07late Dr. Martin Luther King have on
- 21:09you at that time?
- 21:10Well, Martin was an
- 21:12amazing young man.
- 21:14He had been sort of thrust in the
- 21:16leadership. He never really wanted
- 21:18it. And yet he couldn't get
- 21:20away from it.
- 21:21And he was essentially trying
- 21:23to do something for other people.
- 21:25That kind of dedication and
- 21:27the sort of things that he said
- 21:29matter of factly.
- 21:30If a person hadn't found something
- 21:32that they're willing to die for,
- 21:33they're probably not fit to live
- 21:34anyway.
- 21:35You know, somebody dropped that on
- 21:37you in a joking kind of friendly
- 21:38conversation.
- 21:39It makes you think, you know, what
- 21:40is it that I'm willing to died for?
- 21:43And you begin to
- 21:44think about your life and think
- 21:46about other people in a new way.
- 21:48I mean, he was amazing that all of
- 21:50the things that he did, and
- 21:52he never lived to be 40 years old,
- 21:54and yet in the midst of it all, he
- 21:56was still privately
- 21:58a very easygoing,
- 22:02a friendly, joking, clowning,
- 22:04you know, lovable guy.
- 22:07You can find the full episode of
- 22:09In Black America with more speeches
- 22:11from Dr. King wherever you
- 22:13listen to your podcasts.
- 22:16And that is it for today's show.
- 22:18Thank you for kicking off the week
- 22:19here with us on Austin Signal.
- 22:22If you have the day off, we hope
- 22:23you're enjoying yourself out there.
- 22:25And if you're working like us today,
- 22:26you got this. You are one
- 22:28minute closer to getting home.
- 22:31Thank you to Katy McAfee, Andrew
- 22:32Weber, Luz Moreno Lozano.
- 22:34And John L.
- 22:35Hanson Jr.
- 22:36For making today's episode a
- 22:38reality.
- 22:38And a special shout out to KUT
- 22:40multimedia journalists, Laurie
- 22:42Ann Willett and Patricia Lim for
- 22:43their coverage of the protest this
- 22:45weekend. You can see their work
- 22:47on our social media channels.
- 22:50Rayna Sevilla is Austin Signals
- 22:52technical director, and Kristen
- 22:54Cabrera is the
- 22:56show's managing producer.
- 22:58I'm Jerry Quijano, I'll keep trying
- 23:00to talk better.
- 23:01We'll talk to you tomorrow.
- 23:03Have a great day, thanks for tuning
- 23:04in.