Latest / Simply Bitcoin / China's Secret Bitcoin Plan JUST Got More Interesting | EP 1149
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- 0:00Yo is another world superpower making moves into Bitcoin, and
- 0:05not only does this country control the most hash rate on
- 0:08the Bitcoin network, but they have been quietly pivoting on
- 0:11their Bitcoin position in the past three years.
- 0:14Their court system publicly declared Bitcoin as property a
- 0:16couple of months ago, and now we have lawmakers in a region they
- 0:19control demanding the politicians investigate Bitcoin
- 0:24and potentially add a strategic Bitcoin reserve themselves.
- 0:28Ever since the USA announced their intentions for a strategic
- 0:32Bitcoin reserve, the global pressure to adopt Bitcoin is
- 0:35ramping up. We've seen Russia talk about it,
- 0:37and now China is starting to show the FOMO to adopt Bitcoin.
- 0:41Will this happen quickly? Who will be the first one to
- 0:44adopt it? We don't know, but what we do
- 0:47know is the global hash war is picking up.
- 0:50All right, guys, let's get into this new story.
- 0:51But before I do that, I am not alone.
- 0:53We have the Bitcoin shooter with us and of course our boy Chris
- 0:57Alemo coming as Co host. So let's dive into this article
- 1:00here guys. The headline, a Hong Kong
- 1:02lawmaker proposes Bitcoin inclusion in fiscal reserves.
- 1:06Remember, we did cover this a couple of weeks ago that another
- 1:09Hong Kong lawmaker talked about a strategic Bitcoin reserve,
- 1:13though he was from a smaller party.
- 1:14And this guy, the, this person, this Hong Kong lawmaker, he's
- 1:19from a bigger party, literally a one that has a lot more
- 1:23effectiveness, effectiveness, a lot more control in Hong Kong
- 1:26than the previous one. So let's get in this article.
- 1:29Politician and entrepreneur. Wu, I am going to butcher this.
- 1:34Yes. Huang, I don't know, sorry.
- 1:36A member of the Hong Kong Legislative Council and the
- 1:39National Committee of the Chinese People's Political
- 1:41Consultative Conference has called for the inclusion of
- 1:45Bitcoin in the city's fiscal reserve.
- 1:47The proposal emerged during an interview published by the pro
- 1:50Beijing newspaper Wen Waipo, and here you can see some of his
- 1:54remarks. So Wu remarks featured in a
- 1:57special topic piece dated December 30th.
- 1:59So yesterday for them in China emphasized that including
- 2:03Bitcoin in the national financial reserve is not a new
- 2:05idea highlight, highlighting the fact that a number of smaller
- 2:09countries have already adopted Bitcoin as legal currency.
- 2:11But Wu further pointed out that some states in the US have also
- 2:15legislated that 10% of their reserves will be in Bitcoin,
- 2:19allowing for a more diversified asset allocation.
- 2:22He added that if the US president-elect Donald Trump
- 2:24where were to, quote, aggressively promote the
- 2:27inclusion of Bitcoin into government strategic reserves,
- 2:30it would have a global impact, especially on traditional
- 2:33reserve assets. We've been talking about this
- 2:36ever since Trump came out, talking about a Bitcoin reserve,
- 2:39strategic or strategic Bitcoin reserve or stockpile that now
- 2:42everyone has to take it seriously and we're starting to
- 2:45see the impact not only on the Bitcoin price, but the
- 2:47conversation worldwide. People are starting to take
- 2:50Bitcoin very seriously. So we'll use this this context
- 2:53to urge the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region government
- 2:57to consider whether to quote incorporate digital assets and
- 3:00cryptocurrencies into financial reserves, including the
- 3:03possibility hold on, including the possibility, sorry, I need
- 3:10to check my audio, including the possibility of using the
- 3:14exchange fund for a continual BTC purchases over the long
- 3:17term. In response to these calls, the
- 3:21Sargs Government Treasury Bureau confirmed that Hong Kong foreign
- 3:24exchange funds invest in quote, globally diversified asset class
- 3:27and markets to spread risk and enhance long term returns.
- 3:30And of course, while cryptocurrencies is not formally
- 3:32designated as a target investment for these funds, the
- 3:35Bureau acknowledged that externally hired investment
- 3:38managers also invest in globally diversified asset classes and
- 3:41market, allowing for potential, though minimal cryptocurrency
- 3:44related investment. Now I think this is the
- 3:46interesting part of the things that Wu was saying.
- 3:49Wu expressed concerns about the broader ramifications of the
- 3:52United States were to recognize BTC as a strategic reserve
- 3:55asset. He suggested that such a move
- 3:57could destabilize traditional assets.
- 4:00If economic powerhouses actively incorporate Bitcoin into
- 4:03strategic reserves, its value will stabilize, prompting more
- 4:07countries to follow suit and reduce holdings in traditional
- 4:10assets, causing traditional asset prices to fall and
- 4:14shrinking government financial reserves.
- 4:16It's literally him saying you know everything is going to zero
- 4:19against Bitcoin. All roads lead to Bitcoin.
- 4:22The incentives of Bitcoin necessarily mean that hey, if
- 4:26you understand Bitcoin more value is going to go into
- 4:29Bitcoin and and let's not forget the total global traditional
- 4:32asset value somewhere around 900 trillion bitcoins at about 2
- 4:36trillion and so he's essentially saying everything is going to
- 4:38zero against Bitcoin. Maybe we should buy some maybe
- 4:41it's catching on. So here we go last last quote
- 4:44from this article. Then I'll pass along to our Co
- 4:47host and our guest Wu positive that BTC might eventually
- 4:51replace quote precious metals with low practical utility,
- 4:54including gold and silver due to its lower storage and transfer
- 4:58cost. While mentioning that Bitcoin
- 5:00itself lacks physical utility, who argued that cryptocurrencies
- 5:04ease of transfer and storage gives it an edge in market
- 5:07trade-offs, especially compared to gold substantial storage and
- 5:10logistic expenses. So super interesting to hear,
- 5:14you know, Hong Kong politician, Hong Kong law lawmaker
- 5:18essentially saying everything we say here at simply Bitcoin that
- 5:22everyone, everything is going to zero against Bitcoin to if you
- 5:26aren't first or last, if the US adopts a strategic Bitcoin
- 5:29reserve as a world superpower, you have to take that
- 5:33consideration seriously. And he sounds like he
- 5:36understands Bitcoin to a very a clear respect, like a lot of
- 5:41Bitcoiners have been saying, oh, politicians don't get, you know
- 5:44what Bitcoin is? They're naive.
- 5:45They're like, oh, they don't understand Bitcoin.
- 5:48They don't understand the technicalities of the time
- 5:50chain, bro. And it's like, I don't think
- 5:53that that matters. They understand the stakes here.
- 5:55And you're seeing that Hong Kong, you know, even though it's
- 5:57not necessarily China proper mainland China, we do know that
- 6:01Hong Kong is, is definitely a proximity to what China wants to
- 6:05do on the mainland. So if they're talking about it
- 6:07in Hong Kong, you can be very clear that they're talking about
- 6:10it on China in the mainland. And I mean, are you surprised at
- 6:14all? Last week we covered Russia
- 6:16talking about their State Duma announcing or talking about a
- 6:19strategic Bitcoin reserve. Of course, Trump's been on the
- 6:22campaign for the last six months saying we're going to do it.
- 6:25You know, very early in my presidency, in the 1st 100 days,
- 6:29we'll have a executive order, etcetera, to get a strategic
- 6:32Bitcoin reserve. And now we have China talking
- 6:35about it. Not just a small politician in
- 6:38Hong Kong, but someone that actually has some some gravitas
- 6:42behind them talking about, hey, look, we have to take this very
- 6:45seriously, which is very interesting considering that
- 6:48China's banned Bitcoin, I think a total of 6 or seven times.
- 6:52The last one was a very famous 1 from 2021 where they banned
- 6:56Bitcoin mining and they couldn't stop Bitcoin.
- 6:59So hey, more capitulation around Bitcoin entering into 2025 and
- 7:04it's just hard not to get bullish on this.
- 7:06It's just hard not to realize that it's actually happening
- 7:09right now. People are taking Bitcoin
- 7:11seriously. And as much as a Bitcoiner that
- 7:13I'm like, you know, hey, the separation of money and state, I
- 7:16think we knew this was going to happen eventually.
- 7:18I, I hate to be a bitcoiner kind of cheering on the state here.
- 7:21That's not what I'm doing. I'm just acknowledging the fact
- 7:24and the reports coming out that it looks like they want some
- 7:27Bitcoin on their balance sheet. Guys, it's it's almost like it's
- 7:30happening anyways. I won't pass it over to the
- 7:33Bitcoin shooter. Bitcoin shooter, good morning.
- 7:35And what's your thoughts on a potentially Hong Kong adding a
- 7:39strategic Bitcoin reserve? Hey, good morning.
- 7:42And yeah, nice energy, man. I always appreciate the high
- 7:45energy here. Yeah, like you're saying, I
- 7:49don't know if it's going to be a good thing or a bad thing, you
- 7:52know, but they always say Bitcoin is for enemies.
- 7:54So it's kind of like it's out of our control, right?
- 7:57It's permission less they can do what they want.
- 8:00But yeah, maybe they don't understand exactly how it works,
- 8:03but they understand the numbers going up.
- 8:05And when you hear Putin talk about, you know, who can ban
- 8:08Bitcoin? Nobody.
- 8:10You know, I think they see the benefit in it.
- 8:13And yeah, let's have them sell all the gold for Bitcoin.
- 8:17I guess we can all have gold plated toilets, you know, bring
- 8:20bring the price of gold down. That sounds that sounds fine.
- 8:23But All in all, like, I don't pretend to know, you know, if
- 8:29this is a good thing or a bad thing.
- 8:30But yeah, I guess there's two camps here, right?
- 8:32Like, do you want government to not have any Bitcoin and, you
- 8:37know, to pull the Band-Aid off more quickly and have Fiat die
- 8:40more quickly? Or do you want the government to
- 8:43kind of, you know, get involved in it and have a more slow
- 8:47progression towards the, you know, the changing from a money
- 8:52systems? I don't know.
- 8:53But yeah, I guess I, I'm not surprised.
- 8:56Yeah, like you're saying, I think if you're imagining a
- 8:58hyper Bitcoin ICE future, this is kind of what you would expect
- 9:02to see. So yeah, I think the, the, the
- 9:06future will tell. In a perfect world, it'd be nice
- 9:08if these countries were stacking Bitcoin on behalf of the
- 9:10citizens and there was some like, you know, rule that says,
- 9:16hey, we're going to distribute it to citizens in a particular
- 9:19way. You know, I don't know about the
- 9:20game theory about country stockpiling Bitcoin and if
- 9:23they're going to try to fight it later.
- 9:24But I think what this does, it tells the public, hey, there's
- 9:28something unique about Bitcoin compared to gold.
- 9:30There are, you know, reasons why it's, it's a better store of
- 9:33value. And also I think it's just,
- 9:38yeah, it's, it's just telling the world that this thing is
- 9:41serious and countries are really starting to take it.
- 9:43So, man, I, I don't pretend to, to have a big enough brain to
- 9:46understand what this means, but I mean, we can't stop it.
- 9:49So I'm I'm for it man. Let's do it.
- 9:52Yeah, it is pretty crazy to see government talk about Bitcoin
- 9:56even, you know, embracing it or even acknowledging it for, I
- 10:00don't know, the whole time I've been in Bitcoin, you know,
- 10:03they've been trying to be like, that doesn't matter, guys, let's
- 10:06not talk about it. This isn't a real thing.
- 10:08You know, what's it? It's backed by hot air.
- 10:10And now they're like, actually, this might save us like this.
- 10:13This actually might, you know, get us out of our debt, though.
- 10:16And, and you know, I'm going to give a nod to Jason Lowry here
- 10:19on this one because I, I haven't read Soft Power yet, but I've
- 10:23heard some of the thesis and it, it, it is almost like playing
- 10:27out how he kind of talked about that.
- 10:29It's becoming a national security interest device here.
- 10:33Like it's becoming an, it's a, what's a national security issue
- 10:36at this point? And it looks like all the three
- 10:39world superpowers are waking up to that idea that, Oh my God, we
- 10:43have to take Bitcoin seriously. Like it, it's no longer going to
- 10:46be dead. You know, it's no longer
- 10:47something we can just put in the corner.
- 10:49It's like if the US is going to adopt it, Russia's going to
- 10:52adopt it, China's going to adopt it.
- 10:53And for better or worse, I think this is where we are in the
- 10:56story. And then, you know, we got to
- 10:57make sure that we protect ourselves, but also that we
- 11:01don't get Co opted. I think at this point anyway,
- 11:04I'm going to pass it over to Chris because he's more of a big
- 11:06brain, you know, more on the right side of the bell curve
- 11:10than I am. So Chris, good morning.
- 11:12What's your thoughts on, you know, maybe the potential of
- 11:15China adopting a strategic Bitcoin reserve?
- 11:20Good morning, guys, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year.
- 11:22I know we're getting close. So looking forward to 2025, I
- 11:25think we're always going to be in this game plan of basically
- 11:29nation states competing to stack as much Bitcoin as possible.
- 11:32I think one thing that's very interesting, obviously Russia
- 11:35and to greater extent China with this Hong Kong news that these
- 11:38are countries that were basically the powerhouses, the
- 11:40BRICS nations, not calling any of the other, Brazil, India,
- 11:44Portugal, and I forget the other ones that are part of the BRICS
- 11:47nations, but basically China and Russia are probably the two
- 11:50biggest powerhouses of the BRICS nations.
- 11:52It's basically that they're signaling, they're soft
- 11:54signaling that, hey, like maybe this like, you know, strategic
- 11:57reserve currency with us when we don't really trust each other is
- 12:00not going to work. But something like Bitcoin where
- 12:03it's decentralized, trustless count, like no counterparty,
- 12:07like no counterparty risk if you hold your own keys is a way to
- 12:11this perfect currency that we're basically looking for.
- 12:13Like we don't have to be under the thumb of the hegemony of the
- 12:15US dollar and the US government and we can have this currency
- 12:17that operates outside the system.
- 12:19So it almost seems like they're soft walking back of the BRICS
- 12:22currency they've been talking about for Opti.
- 12:24I mean, we've been talking about this for at least two or three
- 12:26years now. But I definitely think they're
- 12:27seeing Bitcoin as an actual viable alternative that doesn't
- 12:30require trust with people that you don't necessarily trust.
- 12:33So I think this is important. It's huge signalling.
- 12:35Obviously, Russia's been positive about Bitcoin in the
- 12:37last year or so, especially even after the sanctions against them
- 12:40with the whole Ukraine Russia proxy war.
- 12:42And then also now China with through proxy of Hong Kong being
- 12:47like, yo, this might be a good to get some Bitcoin or balance
- 12:49sheet. So I think it's bullish.
- 12:51I think the price is going higher.
- 12:52I think stay humble. Yeah, Chris, no, I think I think
- 12:55you made a great point there about like the bricks nation
- 12:57when you consider, you know, Russia and China, they have been
- 13:00talking about dropping U.S. Treasuries for a long time now.
- 13:03And then, you know, Trump reacted to that and said, hey,
- 13:05if you want to drop, you know, you want to drop treasuries,
- 13:08well, we're going to slap terrorists all over you.
- 13:10And, you know, we're basically weaponizing the dollar against
- 13:12you. And now in the what, 2-3 weeks
- 13:15since we've seen that tweet there, China and Russia are both
- 13:19kind of talking about Bitcoin. You can't ban Bitcoin, which is
- 13:22I would say, you know, 180 compared to what they've been
- 13:25saying for a long time. So it's it is really interesting
- 13:28how Bitcoin's been criminalized, or rather, you know, made the
- 13:32bad boogeyman here for so long. And now it's becoming like the
- 13:35saving grace. And as a Bitcoin, I'm a, I'm a
- 13:38bit conflicted here. You know, I want, I want the
- 13:41Fiat currencies to lose purchasing power against the
- 13:44dollar. But I'm also like, man, they're
- 13:47trying to use Bitcoin to back the dollar.
- 13:48It's like, oh, shit, number, go number is going to go up.
- 13:51But also, are we really here to save the dollar?
- 13:54Like, oh, it feels icky, bro. I well, I think the one thing
- 14:00that's true about it, like I do think they're trying to use it
- 14:02to save their Fiat currencies. But at the end of the day, when
- 14:05we look in history, even when we have hard currencies, whether it
- 14:07was gold or, you know, so all these times in history, you
- 14:10know, it's good for a generation, generations Max,
- 14:12maybe the nonarian, the Roman Denarian was like 250 years.
- 14:15So that's at least like 6 to, you know, 10 generations.
- 14:19Let's just say eventually over time, they still manipulate the
- 14:22money either with coin clippings or with like, you know, the US
- 14:25when we were backing and buy gold, but then we were changing
- 14:27the money multiplier. So like there's always a human
- 14:30incentives will perverse the money if they have the ability
- 14:33to do so. So I do think like, you know, in
- 14:35the short term, yeah, we're backing Fiat currencies and they
- 14:37survive a little bit longer. But at the end of the day, like
- 14:39the damage is already done and the damage will continue to
- 14:41happen in the future for Fiat currencies.
- 14:43I think Bitcoin is kind of the life raft, you know, stack stats
- 14:46yourself, put them in self core, self storage, you know, self
- 14:50custom and shut yourself and you're going to be much better
- 14:53off in the long run. Yeah, I wanted to echo that
- 14:56really. I mean, you know, all fiat's
- 14:57going to die. But I know I don't know if we
- 14:59can really get it across to people that, you know, you have
- 15:02to be able to take custody. I mean, if if you back the
- 15:04dollar with Bitcoin, what does that mean exactly?
- 15:06Can you like back in the old days when you had it backed by
- 15:09gold, you know, you could exchange your dollar for gold,
- 15:11right? But how will that work?
- 15:13I don't I don't imagine they're going to be offering something
- 15:15like that. But it's nice to have
- 15:17competition, right? Like when Trump says we want to
- 15:19do all the Bitcoin stuff, it's, I mean, I don't know, it's, it's
- 15:22nice to have other countries competing and, you know, maybe
- 15:25with game theory, they're going to be competing to have other
- 15:27Bitcoiners as citizens and maybe other countries will be more
- 15:30friendly with some of the other freedom ideas that Bitcoiners
- 15:33have, you know, like guns and freedom of speech and stuff like
- 15:36that. It would it would be nice to
- 15:38have multiple places like that to go to.
- 15:41El Salvador's obviously kind of trending in that direction.
- 15:44I don't know how they where they stand on guns right now because
- 15:46of course they've had so many, so many violent issues in the
- 15:49past. I can see why their people might
- 15:51not be that interested in it. But yeah, I mean, it raises
- 15:55another interesting question about, you know, self custody
- 15:58and UTX OS and scaling, You know, if the government's
- 16:01getting involved and institutions are getting
- 16:02involved, you know, I mean, obviously not everyone's going
- 16:05to be able to fit on chain, right?
- 16:06So we need to be able to take custody.
- 16:09We need, we need to be able to make runs on these institutions.
- 16:11But anyway, like, in my opinion, all this stuff is inevitable.
- 16:15I feel like when the government wants to do something, it's
- 16:17going to do something. Maybe if like, really you get
- 16:19the masses behind it and a big push, you can stop them from
- 16:22doing something. But other than that, you know, I
- 16:24think they're going to do whatever they want, which is why
- 16:26I like Bitcoin is because no matter what they do, I can take
- 16:31control of my own finances, my own money.
- 16:33I can custody it and let them fade out and we can hold on to
- 16:37it. But yeah, so we'll just have to
- 16:39see how it goes. Totally, totally bro, it's it's
- 16:44very interesting the world we're heading in right now.
- 16:46It's it's definitely no longer the same world with everyone,
- 16:49you know, going towards the Bitcoin train.
- 16:52Everything seems to be changing in real time.
- 16:54It really it's really almost like we're living the 4th
- 16:56turning even though I don't know, I don't know if people
- 16:58would agree with all that, but things are changing right now in
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- 20:15of paper. All right guys, I'm over here on
- 20:17Clark Moody's dashboard. Of course, running through the
- 20:18numbers, the Bitcoin price is currently at $93,820 per
- 20:24Bitcoin. The sets per dollar, AKA how
- 20:26much Bitcoin you can buy for a single dollar, AKA how much the
- 20:29dollar is worth in Bitcoin is currently at 1066 sets.
- 20:33The block height is 877,000 and 82 again 877082.
- 20:39The Bitcoin market cap in Fiat terms is 1.86 trillion.
- 20:42Dang, we can't hold that $2 trillion market cap right now.
- 20:46Absolutely right guys, it's over.
- 20:48We had a good run. No, I'm, I'm, I'm trolling.
- 20:51I'm trolling. The Bitcoin versus gold market
- 20:52cap is currently at 10.17%. Still a lot of room to run in
- 20:57the hard money game and the total Bitcoin supply that will
- 21:00ever be issued is currently at 94.3 0%, which means roughly
- 21:07about 19.8 million Bitcoin are currently circulating.
- 21:10Again, there's only ever going to be 21 million Bitcoin guys,
- 21:13so you might want to buy some just in case the cat is on And
- 21:16on that note, Max Kaiser, I would argue, made a triumphant
- 21:20return back to RT. Of course, he had a classic show
- 21:23on there years ago. And now it seems like Kaiser is
- 21:27making the rounds everywhere and he is relaying the message we
- 21:31are all getting here at simply Bitcoin.
- 21:33And as a Bitcoiner is that, hey, there's a perfect money now and
- 21:38you might want to start to adopt it.
- 21:40Maybe savings doesn't have to be so hard.
- 21:43Maybe you can increase your purchasing power by buying
- 21:46Bitcoin. And maybe everyone is waking up
- 21:49to this fact. So let's play this video and
- 21:51we'll talk about it. Sure.
- 21:52Well, thanks for having me on. That one SEC wrecked what's
- 21:57going on over here? Let's go try that again.
- 22:00Sure. Well, thanks for having me on.
- 22:02Nice seeing you. So Bitcoin fulfills the promise
- 22:06that humanity has been searching for ever since the beginning of
- 22:10time, and that is perfect money. And perfect money allows humans
- 22:15to travel through time and space effortlessly and to achieve
- 22:19their full potential. And for many years, we used
- 22:22various pebbles and stones. And then gold was popular for
- 22:25thousands of years. And then 2009 Bitcoin came
- 22:28along. And if it filled this promise,
- 22:30it is effectively perfect money. And now what we're seeing is the
- 22:35realization that Bitcoin, when you compare it to other stores
- 22:40of value like Fiat money or property or fine art or any kind
- 22:44of store value, even the stock market or the bond market is
- 22:48superior. And so now we're seeing
- 22:50trillions of dollars leave these other stores of value and find
- 22:54their way into Bitcoin. And what's interesting right now
- 22:59is that we've entered into really a new Sputnik moment
- 23:02because various nations are scrambling to build up the
- 23:07biggest Bitcoin stock that they possibly can, because nations
- 23:13are beginning to understand that this is the new prima franca of
- 23:17the 21st century. The entire global economy is
- 23:20being rebuilt on top of Bitcoin, which is really perfect money.
- 23:25So in the case of Russia and the recent comments coming out of
- 23:28the Kremlin, they seem to be now ready to enter the space race or
- 23:32the global Bitcoin race. the United States has said under the
- 23:36new administration, Donald Trump that they want to buy a million
- 23:39Bitcoin. We have Cynthia Lummus, who's a
- 23:41senator in Wyoming saying they want to sell their gold, 8000
- 23:45tons of gold and buy Bitcoin. You have other countries making
- 23:49that decision. We want to buy Bitcoin.
- 23:51Various states in the United States are choosing to buy
- 23:55Bitcoin and hold Bitcoin. And so this is really going to
- 24:00define the economy in the, in the, the 21st century.
- 24:05And because at the at the end of the day, when you have something
- 24:10like Bitcoin that's better than anything else as a store of
- 24:14value, the market will recognize this and you start to see people
- 24:18sell off other other assets and move into Bitcoin.
- 24:24Literally saying exactly what that what do you call it the
- 24:29Hong Kong congressman or lawmaker was saying is that
- 24:33Bitcoin is actively demonetizing every other asset in the world
- 24:37and people are waking up to this and again, I'm, you know, I just
- 24:40got home from hanging out back with my family.
- 24:43I saw some old friends over the Christmas break or Christmas,
- 24:48you know, dinner, hanging out with friends and they all did
- 24:52the very similar thing. They did the man, I really wish
- 24:55I listened to you about Bitcoin when you were talking about it
- 24:59whenever, you know, last year and they're like, I missed a
- 25:02boat and I'm like, dude, just listen to me now.
- 25:04It is perfect money. It's the best way to save your
- 25:06money. You know, I did the whole DCA
- 25:08shield, but it's, I think it's super important to stress the
- 25:13very simple idea of Bitcoin is just the best way to save.
- 25:17It's perfect money. I literally ran down the it's a
- 25:19best performing asset, you know, last 15 years, 11 out of the 14.
- 25:23And there's still just, they can't grasp that idea that it's
- 25:27the best thing to save your money.
- 25:29And so I always try to echo that idea to them.
- 25:31And they're like, oh, maybe I'll watch your show now.
- 25:33And I'm like, yeah, maybe you should like, maybe you need to
- 25:36just start saving in Bitcoin. It's the best way to save your
- 25:39money. And they're still looking at me
- 25:41like, what are you talking about?
- 25:42But kudos to Kaiser for going to our team, spreading the signal,
- 25:47exposing the fact that every country is moving towards
- 25:50Bitcoin. All roads lead to Bitcoin.
- 25:51Bitcoin's going to demonetize everything.
- 25:53Everything is going to zero against Bitcoin because it is
- 25:56perfect money. And actually shouts out to there
- 25:59was someone in the chat last week.
- 26:00I, I forget who it was, but I'm reminded right now he's like, as
- 26:03a gold miner, I can 100% tell you that Bitcoin makes gold
- 26:07obsolete. And I'm like, man, shouts out to
- 26:09him. I love that guy in the chat.
- 26:11Anyways, Bitcoin's the best way to save your money, guys.
- 26:14Just keep keep hitting on that message.
- 26:16It's a best performing asset, period.
- 26:18And we live in a digital world and the world's waking up to
- 26:20this and hey, you're on the front lines.
- 26:23Love to see it. OK, Bitcoin should actually
- 26:25actually I'm getting yelled out in the chat.
- 26:27Guys, if you like this cotton, smash the like button, comment,
- 26:30subscribe, all that good stuff. We still have a jam packed show
- 26:34Bitcoin shooter. What's your thoughts on Max
- 26:38Keiser on RT talking about Bitcoin as perfect money?
- 26:41Yeah, well, first of all, a lot of roads lead back to Max, you
- 26:46know, and a lot of people, a lot of Bitcoiners I know worked
- 26:49first exposed to Bitcoin through Max on RT.
- 26:52So shout out to him. He's also the one that really
- 26:54orange killed me. You know, my brother tripped me
- 26:56down the rabbit hole. But you know, listening to Max
- 26:59really made me understand Bitcoin better and, you know,
- 27:02the problems of Fiat better. And yeah, I mean, kudos to him,
- 27:06right? He, I mean, he's basically been
- 27:08saying the same thing since Bitcoin was a dollar or less.
- 27:11So that's a pretty profound. And yeah, I agree with you.
- 27:16I mean, Bitcoin is just that it's, it makes saving easy
- 27:19again, right? I mean, you can buy a dollar of
- 27:22it, you know, you can buy $10.00 of it.
- 27:25It's the only thing you can actually custody, right?
- 27:27Like I imagine maybe future like financial products is like, you
- 27:31know, OK, you can't afford to buy a whole house, but you
- 27:33realize that real estate is a good savings vehicle.
- 27:36So why don't you buy like a fraction of this house?
- 27:38You know, you and a bunch like 1000 other people can buy little
- 27:40fractions of it. So if you want to invest $100 in
- 27:43real estate, you can do that, but you can't even actually take
- 27:45custody of that thing. So yeah, Bitcoin is just like
- 27:49Max said. It's the best money we've ever
- 27:51had. And I think since money is so
- 27:54foundational, people don't actually realize how profound it
- 27:57is. Like it's more profound than
- 27:58language even, right? And imagine if we didn't have
- 28:00language and we couldn't communicate with each other, we
- 28:02wouldn't be able to accomplish virtually everything that we've
- 28:05accomplished as a species. But with money, it's even, it's
- 28:08even more foundational than that.
- 28:10So yeah, it's the perfect money. Everyone's waking up to it.
- 28:14And it's why I'm really hopeful for the future.
- 28:16I mean, I don't know, the transition might be difficult.
- 28:19But, you know, as human beings, if we actually have good sound
- 28:22money, you know, again, it's going to be like, we're actually
- 28:26speaking in a clear language to each other.
- 28:28We're not just babbling. And like, you know, the people
- 28:31who are willing to bend their morals get the most money, you
- 28:33know, and, and the future of the people that will actually
- 28:36provide the most value will be the richest.
- 28:38So, yeah, it's nice to see Max on RT.
- 28:41And it's just classic Max Kaiser.
- 28:44I mean, what else do you expect? I'm surprised the guy even
- 28:46fucking does these things still, you know, I mean, I would
- 28:49imagine he'd be bored by now. Like, hey, you idiots, I've been
- 28:52telling you to buy this thing forever, you know?
- 28:56So yeah, shout out to Max Kaiser.
- 28:58And, you know, as as pretty much always, he's absolutely right.
- 29:03Yeah, I love it, Shooter. I think that message you just
- 29:05said, it's like the most important thing, especially when
- 29:08you talk to people right now, they don't understand that their
- 29:12money is broken, that they have bad money.
- 29:13It's literally like the, you know, does a fish understand
- 29:16he's in water type meme where it's like you live in this
- 29:20world, you think the dollar is stable.
- 29:22You kind of can't pinpoint why life is oops, why life is
- 29:26getting more difficult. You're just like, this is the
- 29:28way things are and and then here we are as bitcoiners, just like
- 29:32no, life's kind of good, like life's is doing pretty good.
- 29:35And also, I don't know if you guys have seen on Twitter,
- 29:37there's been a lot of arguments right now about like the decline
- 29:40of society and what the real problems are.
- 29:42And as a bitcoiner, I'm like, it's the money, bro.
- 29:45Like the money is is broken. This is why life is getting
- 29:49worse. This is why more people are
- 29:50getting angry. And once you understand that,
- 29:53that idea that hey, if you have a good money, it's like speaking
- 29:57a clear language. This is this is the
- 30:00communication we are talking about here with Bitcoin with a
- 30:03perfect money. And it just it really is like
- 30:07you, you said about Kaiser, it really is frustrating when you
- 30:10try to talk to people about this constantly because it's like it
- 30:13seems so obvious to us at this point when you talk to your
- 30:15friends, like, dude, just like start saving in it.
- 30:18It's really not that hard. It it is what it is.
- 30:21OK, let's go to Chris. Chris, what's your thoughts on
- 30:26Max Keiser on RT or rather maybe the message of a perfect Money?
- 30:32No, I think Max has been hitting out of the park.
- 30:34I mean, he's been doing this for over a decade now.
- 30:37I mean, he said he was buying into Bitcoin, you know, at like
- 30:39$10. I know.
- 30:41And then he felt like he missed it even back then when people
- 30:43were buying it sub a dollar. And then he has the famous
- 30:46stories of gifting Alex Jones and even Tim Poole and a few
- 30:50other people like very early on, like tons of Bitcoin.
- 30:53Like what would the equivalent of billions of dollars if not
- 30:56hundreds of millions of Bitcoin back in the day.
- 30:59And a lot of them misplaced it, lost it.
- 31:01And I think that just goes to show like Opti, the people don't
- 31:06enjoy Bitcoin if or things if it's given to them.
- 31:08If I give you a brand new car, you're less likely to take good
- 31:11care of it versus if you work hard overtime, like earn it and
- 31:15buy the car yourself and then like you take better care of it.
- 31:17Like a lot of people mishandled billions of dollars or millions
- 31:20of dollars of Bitcoin because they didn't see it as valuable.
- 31:23Versus if you work overtime, you know, we preach DCA or lump sum
- 31:27investing and you had to expend your time, effort and energy to
- 31:32get that Fiat currency or money that you have in order to
- 31:34exchange it for Bitcoin. And then you go along the ride
- 31:37of seeing it appreciate in price and collapse in price when it
- 31:40dips. And I think people really
- 31:42appreciate it when you work hard for something and then you get
- 31:45the fruits of your labor. But that takes time.
- 31:47That's doesn't happen overnight. Yeah, everyone would love to buy
- 31:50Bitcoin when it's on a 70% discount only for the next month
- 31:53for it to RIP to a new all time highs, which some people can get
- 31:57lucky. But like, as history has proven,
- 31:59when investing in general, like it's you're like, though it's
- 32:02not about timing the market, it's about being in the market.
- 32:05The same hold principle holds true for Bitcoin.
- 32:07Like you buy it over time. Yeah, it'll go down in price.
- 32:09Yeah, it'll go up. Yeah, it'll chop side and drive
- 32:12people crazy AT58K. That's like the the nature of
- 32:15this asset. But over time you want to work
- 32:17to purchase it and, you know, take it into self custody.
- 32:21And then with that you'll be able to reap the benefits and
- 32:23rewards and not the I'll hammer on your last point that you were
- 32:26mentioning. A lot of people in this
- 32:27narrative happens on X or just in general that people always
- 32:30want to blame people, companies, governments, entities, you, you
- 32:35name it. But at the end of the day, us
- 32:37Bitcoiners, we've been in this for so long.
- 32:38It's like it's the money stupid, like the money's broken.
- 32:40That's what's causing all this like issues.
- 32:43Yeah, there there's peoples and pockets and companies and
- 32:45governments that are taking advantage of the system and yes,
- 32:48they're aiding and abetting it. But at the end of the day, it's
- 32:50the base. The root cause of the problem is
- 32:52the money. The money is the issue.
- 32:53You fix that. I know of the trope in the
- 32:55Bitcoin communities, fix the money, fix the world.
- 32:57I don't think that's fully true. I do think we're still going to
- 32:59have issues, but fix the money and we fix the fucking lot.
- 33:02So I think that's that's that's what I'm sending bars bars.
- 33:06It starts with the money guys, I say it all the time.
- 33:08It's always about the money. It will always be about the
- 33:11money. It's literally this simple.
- 33:12Obviously fix the money, fix the world is a little hyperbolic
- 33:16meme, But if you can fix the money and then everything will
- 33:19come downstream of that. And there's still a lot of work
- 33:21to be doing. But hey, it looks like we'll be
- 33:23having a job here for a long time because people still don't
- 33:26understand the basics of money. And I experienced this this last
- 33:30week and you know, to that, that thing that shooter was saying
- 33:33about Kaiser, it's because we're on the mission, bro.
- 33:35We realize there's a better a better way.
- 33:37And as as tiring as it gets, you still can't stop but tell people
- 33:42that, hey, you need to start saving in Bitcoin.
- 33:44And I think it's going to heat up.
- 33:45We'll see. We'll see what happens.
- 33:47What, one more day last? No, yeah, two more days till
- 33:492025. We'll see what happens in 2025.
- 33:51Anyways, let's get into the news because I know everyone's
- 33:54watching the Bitcoin price right now and wondering why it's going
- 33:57down. But there's a lot of buying
- 33:59going on. So I'm going to cover a lot of
- 34:01the buying happening right now. And it's really making make me
- 34:04feel bullish. I'll I'll tell you Anyway, let's
- 34:06get into the next part of the show.
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- 36:17All right, I'm going to cover some stuff here guys.
- 36:20It looks I don't know I'm I'm starting to feel a little
- 36:23bullish even though the price is going down, even though longs
- 36:25are getting liquidated, which I think is even a bullish thing in
- 36:28and of itself. We're starting to see incredible
- 36:30amounts of buys, but also the Bitcoin market cap is getting
- 36:33bigger. So these buys seem to be having
- 36:35less effect than they used to have.
- 36:37Anyways, here's our boy Nicholas Hoffman.
- 36:40He just kind of, you know, yeah, exactly.
- 36:43Here's a go just kind of updating it and then I'm going
- 36:46to break down some of the different stuff.
- 36:47So so far, just today, and this happened this morning,
- 36:51MicroStrategy bought $209 million of Bitcoin, Tether
- 36:55bought 7700 and $5 million of Bitcoin and more publicly traded
- 36:59companies adopted Bitcoin. You are not bullish enough.
- 37:02Perfect way to set things up. So here we go going into the 1st
- 37:06news, you know Tether buys 7629 Bitcoin worth 705 million for
- 37:12its Bitcoin reserve and now own 7.7 billion in Bitcoin and you
- 37:17can see, you know the buy there. Next we're going to cover
- 37:20Michael Saylor. Micro strategy has acquired
- 37:23another 2138 Bitcoin for roughly $209 million at a 97 1837 per
- 37:33Bitcoin and has achieved a Bitcoin yield of 47.8 QTD and
- 37:39yeah quarter to date and seven 474.1 year today as of
- 37:4312/29/2024. So yesterday we hold 446,400
- 37:50Bitcoin acquired for roughly 2 or 27.9 billion at roughly a
- 37:5562.428 per Bitcoin price. Just absolutely putting on a
- 38:01master class and I know I hear everyone out there like why is
- 38:04the Bitcoin price going down? Well, it's very simple.
- 38:07Even though we're having these huge buys by Sailor and Tether
- 38:10and other people just means more people are selling like it's
- 38:13very simple, but we do have a new indicator, which is an old
- 38:17indicator, which is kind of making me feel bullish when you
- 38:21see these whales start to pick pick up their buying again.
- 38:24So two days ago, the bit Fenix whale has started building his
- 38:28long position again. He is sometimes early, but he is
- 38:31never wrong. He decreases his position during
- 38:34extreme bullishness February, March, November, early December
- 38:38and increases his position when the price is going down or
- 38:41sideways June till September and you can check it out.
- 38:44So it looks like, you know, the buying will continue until the
- 38:49price increases. And then the last, last thing
- 38:52that I think is pretty bullish is the TX creditors will start
- 38:56getting repaid in dollars this week, $16 billion of liquidity.
- 39:01So it looks like we might be getting a lot of liquidity back
- 39:04into the market. Yes, the price is down, but hey,
- 39:07the longs are getting wrecked, which is just going to clear up
- 39:11the Bitcoin price to go moon. Hold on, hold on.
- 39:13I got it for you right here, Chris, and then I'll pass it to
- 39:16you. Oh, wait, hold on.
- 39:21OK, Chris, what's your thoughts on all of the buys?
- 39:24Or maybe you can answer to your friends and family out there.
- 39:27Why is the Bitcoin price going down?
- 39:30It's going up now. I don't know if you're seeing
- 39:32it, Opti, we're getting the stream pumped.
- 39:34So I guess it's going up because of us.
- 39:36But no, at the end of the day, Bitcoin's price goes up when
- 39:39more people buy than sell. It goes down when more people
- 39:41sell them buy. I think that's the the short
- 39:43answer, but yeah, no, I'm, I'm excited.
- 39:46I'm bullish. You know, I know we pumped.
- 39:49You got to take it in context. What?
- 39:51We've only hit 90K in like October of this year.
- 39:55November of this year, we hit 90K for the first time.
- 39:58It's history. And we basically stayed above
- 39:59that range the entire time for the rest of the year.
- 40:02So yeah, I mean, it hit it in right on November 17.
- 40:09And here we are at December 30th, so 45 days, 44 days.
- 40:14So no reason to be bullish, you know, just a slight pullback in
- 40:17price, but that's your opportunity to buy cheap sets.
- 40:20You know, Opti, we were screaming at people to buy
- 40:22Bitcoin when we fell to 15, five people like, Nah, it's going to
- 40:25drop lower. It's too risky.
- 40:26It's going to zero. Who is the one guy that like
- 40:29he's a perfect bottom signal that the guy that was on Joe
- 40:34Rogan who said, oh, it's got $1000 more to go.
- 40:38Peter, I always forget his name. He is like really good at
- 40:41calling the absolute bottom of Bitcoin.
- 40:44And you know, I think hindsight will prove and history will show
- 40:47that he was absolutely wrong. And when he was saying that you
- 40:50should have been loading up your bags.
- 40:52No, I'm really bullish. I don't.
- 40:54Is this the same like whale, the bear whale that like over
- 40:56history whenever he sells a ton of his Bitcoin and we have to
- 40:59eat through it in order to to to fight the flood to get through
- 41:04for the buying spree? I don't know.
- 41:06I can't remember exactly if it's the bear whale, but it is one of
- 41:09those whales that, you know, historically, you know, when
- 41:13he's buying, it's probably a good chance to buy.
- 41:16If he's selling, then, you know, maybe we're in bear market
- 41:19territories here. But yeah, I, well, he's bought.
- 41:23He's buying. the US is buying. China's buying.
- 41:25Russia's buying. All, all engines.
- 41:27Go rocket ship. We're going to the moon.
- 41:29Let's go. Hold on.
- 41:30Let's play one more time, Rocket.
- 41:31Ship. Get on board.
- 41:33All right, cheater. What's your thoughts on all of
- 41:36the buys? How are you feeling?
- 41:38What's the sentiment you're getting going into 2025?
- 41:41Yeah, it's funny, man. I think there's two different
- 41:44kinds of bitcoiners. You have the bitcoiners that are
- 41:46working and you have the Bitcoiners that aren't working
- 41:49and the bitcoiners that are working, like when the price
- 41:51goes down, hey, it's all a good man.
- 41:53Like bring it down, let's get those cheap sets, right?
- 41:57And the people who aren't working, the retired people or
- 42:00the people that are just living off of their Bitcoin, right?
- 42:02They want it to go up. So yeah, like you're saying,
- 42:05when people ask me why is the price going up or down, I just
- 42:08tell them the same thing. Hey, more people are buying or
- 42:10more people are selling, you know, whatever.
- 42:13But yeah, I think the plan is if you're like me and you're a
- 42:16working man, you know, you just earn money, spend as little as
- 42:20you possibly can and save the rest in Bitcoin.
- 42:22So yeah, I'm, I'm down for it all, man.
- 42:25Price goes up, feels good. Price goes down, it feels good.
- 42:29I don't know who's selling. But, you know, it just kind of
- 42:33flies in the face of like economists who say that
- 42:35deflation doesn't work because people will never spend their
- 42:38money if it keeps appreciating in value.
- 42:39It's like, bro, people need to buy things.
- 42:42People want to live life. You know, if you hold for four
- 42:45years or five years, you know, and you want to sell some of it
- 42:48to buy something or go on a vacation or whatever, like, you
- 42:51know, that's what people are going to want to do.
- 42:53So anyway, yeah, that's my take on it.
- 42:55Don't know who's buying, don't know who's selling.
- 42:58Doesn't make a difference to me either way.
- 43:00I'm saving as much as I can. And yeah, man, like it's always
- 43:05good when the price cuts in half.
- 43:07Like, man, that's great. You getting double the stats,
- 43:09You know, I mean, it was kind of painful actually when I looked
- 43:11at like, you get less than 1000 stats for a dollar, you know,
- 43:15and we'll get into my film in a bit.
- 43:16But people are paying, you know, stats to watch the film.
- 43:19And like, I just see that number getting smaller and smaller
- 43:21stats, like as the price goes up.
- 43:23So it's nice to see more stats coming through.
- 43:25So it's like, you know, it's like the yin and Yang of
- 43:28Bitcoin, man. You love it when the price goes
- 43:30up and you got to love it when the price goes down.
- 43:32That's the best way to to ride Bitcoin, man.
- 43:35So yeah, it's all I got. Totally, totally.
- 43:39And to answer Elaine's question again, I've been, I've been
- 43:42mentioning Checkmatee's Twitter for a long time, but you can see
- 43:46here, he posted this on December 9th, so you know, couple weeks
- 43:50ago. But I think this is the same
- 43:52thing playing out. You can see he's doing a lot of
- 43:54on chain metrics. He's I think he's got a very
- 43:57good grasp of what's going on with the price right now because
- 44:00you know, we get stupidly bullish or other people get
- 44:03stupidly bearish. He's been kind of neutral
- 44:05throughout this whole time. And you can see here he tweeted
- 44:08this again, again on the 9th, so a couple of weeks ago.
- 44:10I'm sure he'll update this in a couple of days, etcetera, but
- 44:13checkmate, he goes. The LED foot of Bitcoin long
- 44:16term holders, a sell side pressure by existing holders is
- 44:19tremendous right now and in my view completely overwhelms the
- 44:22demand from both ETFs and micro strategy.
- 44:25There are lots of heated signals, but as always, the
- 44:27devil's in the detail. And you can see he's plugging
- 44:30his latest post. If you look at the chart,
- 44:33Bitcoin value days destroyed multiple, you know it's going
- 44:37up. So as shooter was saying,
- 44:41holders are selling their Bitcoin right now, long term
- 44:43holders of Bitcoin, they're getting their games.
- 44:45You know, they want to live their life and it's very simple.
- 44:48There's more sellers than buyers right now, but that's a buying
- 44:51opportunity for everyone out there.
- 44:52So you just love to see them. Anyways, before I jump into
- 44:56having a conversation with Bitcoin shooter about a film he
- 44:59just dropped, make sure you smash like button guys.
- 45:01Let's get to 150 likes. I need 20 more people to like it
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- 46:54All right, moving forward, our boy Bitcoin shooter.
- 46:59You dropped the movie, bro, fellow content creator in a in a
- 47:02little different Ave. but you just you've been working on
- 47:05this. You just play it, drop this
- 47:07movie. So hey, maybe I just play the
- 47:09trailer real quick. All right, well, I'll just try
- 47:12the trailer real quick and then we'll talk about it.
- 47:15Nothing else has to change for the average person to feel a
- 47:18complete improvement in their life by just prices not going up
- 47:21anymore. I buy milk today and it's a
- 47:25dollar and I come back next week and next year and it's still a
- 47:28dollar. Wow, that's great.
- 47:31It's hard to imagine living without inflation and thinking
- 47:35of prices that don't go up all the time.
- 47:38Would be nice. Nice to be able to plan, yeah?
- 47:42Where there's no inflation, there's no struggle.
- 47:44Which in the end gives us more time to look inwards, more time
- 47:48to determine who am I and how do I want to show up in this world.
- 47:51That kind of economic environment would lead to
- 47:54unprecedented levels of prosperity, to levels never
- 47:58before imagined on Earth. That's a utopian world, isn't
- 48:01it? I don't know if it exists, but
- 48:03it would be great. Inflation problem is a
- 48:10consequence of money printing. If you have a currency with a
- 48:13fixed supply, then you would avoid inflation.
- 48:17There will only be 21 million bitcoins, with each Bitcoin
- 48:21being divisible by 100 million pieces.
- 48:25Once you show them how easy it is to use Bitcoin, they can see
- 48:29actually how Bitcoin can be useful.
- 48:32We really didn't expect that. These computers, they're using a
- 48:35lot of energy. And because of that, more people
- 48:38can be connected to electricity right away.
- 48:40I don't know if there's something that changes people's
- 48:42lives as drastically. Between 7 and 10 million people
- 48:46will be reached. I think that's a dream we're
- 48:48going for. We can go hook rate up and put
- 48:51miners right to work and that energy is being used in that
- 48:53flares drop or if not gone. Bitcoin is money that dictators
- 48:57and governments can't stop. There is no CEO of Bitcoin.
- 49:00It is not one computer. It is hundreds of thousands of
- 49:05computers. If there wasn't Bitcoin I would
- 49:08be depressed. What would we use to fight
- 49:11deflation and money printing from government?
- 49:17Love it, bro. Well, congratulations on the
- 49:20film, dude. Let's just have it at the start
- 49:23of the beginning. Where'd this idea come from?
- 49:25Why did you work on this film called No More Inflation?
- 49:28What got you to create this film?
- 49:30I know you spent a lot of time, you know, traveling, recording
- 49:33with people to come out with the movie.
- 49:35What was the Genesis idea of this?
- 49:38Yeah, it's funny it, it kind of stems from bit block boom too.
- 49:40So, but really the first work I did in the Bitcoin space was
- 49:452021 with Max and Stacey. We filmed a few things, a few
- 49:50Kaiser reports and I went with them to El Salvador the first
- 49:53time they had gone down. And so we filmed a few Kaiser
- 49:56reports there. We filmed like who Kelly's
- 49:58Bitcoin bond announcement and going to El Salvador and meeting
- 50:02the people and hearing the story of the country really inspired
- 50:05me to like put some sort of documentary together for them.
- 50:08So on my own time and my own dime over the next year or so, I
- 50:12was working on that and I saw bit block boom was coming up.
- 50:16And so I ended up going to bit block boom around the time when
- 50:19I had like the almost final cut of that El Salvador film, which
- 50:23is called Comeback Country. And I went there and it was the
- 50:26first time I really hung out with a bunch of Bitcoiners.
- 50:29I was talking about the film, I was showing them the film and
- 50:32you know, people really like encouraging me after seeing it.
- 50:36So like, hey, this is really good, like in a full length
- 50:38film. And so yeah, Bit Block Boom is a
- 50:40great conference. If anybody's considering going,
- 50:42you should definitely go. It's like I've heard so many
- 50:46people like Nico and and Opti like meeting for the first time
- 50:48there. It's like all roads lead back to
- 50:50Max, all roads lead back to Bit Block Boom somehow.
- 50:54So you should go there. But anyway, yeah, after making
- 50:56that 10 minute film about El Salvador and Naibu, Kelly
- 51:00reposted it and that kind of brought more attention to me and
- 51:03people really encouraging me to make a full length film.
- 51:06And so I was thinking, you know, what would I do?
- 51:08If I'm going to spend a year or two working on something, I, I
- 51:10want it to be the most impactful that it can possibly be.
- 51:13So I, I knew it had to be Bitcoin related.
- 51:15I feel like Bitcoin is what the world needs most right now and I
- 51:19was really looking for the best Segway in what is the best way
- 51:23into the average person's heart, right?
- 51:25This is made for the average person.
- 51:28Of course, Bitcoiners will appreciate it because you'll see
- 51:31a lot of the things that maybe you've read about or heard about
- 51:34Bitcoin doing or, or, or the ways that inflation is bad in
- 51:37the world, but you'll actually see it and hear it from people
- 51:39directly. So when I was fleshing out the
- 51:42film, I knew inflation was the way in this just seemed like the
- 51:45most common problem universally that anyone can relate with and
- 51:49that Bitcoin is a clear solution for.
- 51:51So in doing that, I really wanted to flesh out to two
- 51:54halves of the film, one about inflation and one about Bitcoin.
- 51:58And so the inflation aspect, I wanted to show what life looks
- 52:02like as inflation increases. And so that involved, you know,
- 52:06traveling to Jamaica to document double digit inflation,
- 52:10Argentina for triple digit. I met many Venezuelans that were
- 52:14living in Argentina and they talked about quadruple digit
- 52:16inflation. And so, you know, from there
- 52:19really showing that this is how life changes and talking about
- 52:23why it happens, which is money printing and where that money is
- 52:25being spent. So on things like war and food
- 52:28and, you know, foreign aid and government bailouts during COVID
- 52:33and, you know, of course, the banking crisis and really to put
- 52:37a cap on the inflation problem, as this is something that has
- 52:40happened to every single money in human history.
- 52:42And it always ends this way. And so it's really kind of like
- 52:45a dark black pill, you know, horror movie for the first half
- 52:48of it. And then that segues us
- 52:51perfectly into Bitcoin. Well, you know, if inflation is
- 52:53just happening because of money printing, then what if money
- 52:55can't be printed? You know, what does that look
- 52:57like? And, and so that's how the film
- 53:00segues into Bitcoin and it talks about why Bitcoin can't be
- 53:02printed. But then it also covers the
- 53:04common objections that people have because at this point, you
- 53:07know, there's so many preconceived notions out there
- 53:09about, you know, it's bad for energy, it's bad for crime, the
- 53:12volatility, you know, no one uses it.
- 53:14It's too difficult to use, you know, all of these things.
- 53:18I feel like the moment you mentioned Bitcoin, you need to
- 53:21kind of address those. So.
- 53:23So yeah, so with that in mind, you know, I was looking for
- 53:26stories around the world that kind of contradicted, you know,
- 53:29energies, Bitcoin energy usage is not bad.
- 53:31So for example, like you saw in the trailer, you know, I went to
- 53:34Kenya and saw what Gridless was doing out there, you know,
- 53:37interviewed Eric, their CEO, interviewed a small power
- 53:41provider that is actually the one that they're teaming up with
- 53:43in one of their sites. And some of the locals that live
- 53:46around that area that we're talking about, you know, what
- 53:48life is like with than actually having power.
- 53:50I mean, these people were literally living in the Stone
- 53:52Age. So you'll see in the film, you
- 53:54know, one woman's talking about how her kids can study better
- 53:57now because they're not studying by kerosene candles anymore or
- 54:00kerosene lamps. They actually have light bulbs
- 54:02so they can study at night without, you know, the kids
- 54:04complaining about their eyes burning.
- 54:07And, and there's another farmer there who would spend 2 hours a
- 54:09day chopping, you know, food for his cattle with a machete.
- 54:12And now he runs it through a machine and it takes them like
- 54:1510 minutes. And and so and same thing in
- 54:19North Dakota with my boy Huddle Tarantula out there mining off a
- 54:22flare gas, literally there are reducing pollution and with the
- 54:27Bitcoin mining. So yeah, that's really how the
- 54:30whole film kind of got laid out was like, I want to cover the
- 54:33problems of inflation. I want to cover, you know, the
- 54:37the solution of Bitcoin and I'm willing to go anywhere in the
- 54:41world to capture the best stories.
- 54:43So yeah, film came out about a month ago.
- 54:46Response has been very positive and I would encourage anybody,
- 54:50you know, Bitcoiner definitely if you're a Bitcoiner, you know,
- 54:52watcher, you're going to see a lot of things that you've never
- 54:55seen before. I mean, if you never stepped
- 54:56foot on the oil field in North Dakota, you're going to like it.
- 54:59Same thing in Kenya and you can watch it at no more
- 55:02inflation.com. And then after you watch it, the
- 55:05best thing is really to share it.
- 55:06I really set out to make this like, you know, Netflix worthy.
- 55:09I wanted, you know, a million people, 10 million people, 20
- 55:12million, a 100 million people to see it.
- 55:14And I really feel like if they do get these messages, you know,
- 55:17we we really can change the world, right?
- 55:19I mean, there's lots of Bitcoin books out there.
- 55:21The rabbit hole is already very rich, but, you know, it doesn't
- 55:23really feel like there was like a Bitcoin standard of films.
- 55:26And so, yeah, I really feel like that's what I put together.
- 55:29And so watch it, if you like it, share it.
- 55:31And I think it's just a matter of time before somebody who's
- 55:34connected to HBO or Netflix or Joe Rogan or something like that
- 55:37sees it. And, you know, we can get this
- 55:39on a big platform. And then, yeah, the rising tide
- 55:42lifts all ships, you know, So that's kind of the film in a
- 55:45nutshell, man. It's been 2 years.
- 55:47It's been a crazy journey. It's been exhausting, but it's
- 55:50been extremely rewarding and I'm very thankful for all the people
- 55:54that helped me along the journey to to get it done.
- 55:56And I'm really proud of it. And I hope everybody watches it
- 55:59and lets me know what they think, man.
- 56:02Love it, bro. Yeah, I mean.
- 56:04Look, we were kind of a, excuse me, joking about it before the
- 56:07show. You know, we show up every
- 56:09single day to work. But when you do what you do, you
- 56:13know, you take two years of your life and then you have, you
- 56:16know, a product at the end. And so I'm sure it's a labor of
- 56:18love. Now my question is, is as a
- 56:21filmmaker, obviously you go into this with an idea.
- 56:25You kind of have a goal, you know what you kind of want to do
- 56:28with the movie, but why you do it?
- 56:32I'm sure some interesting stuff happened, maybe some eye opening
- 56:35moments. So could you maybe talk about
- 56:37one of those things for the audience?
- 56:38Like what was one of the things that you learned while making
- 56:41this film that you think other people should know?
- 56:45Yeah. Yeah, it is interesting, man.
- 56:49I mean, it's a lot of fun. I never worked on a project for
- 56:51so long and been able to dedicate so much time for it.
- 56:54You know, I mean, one of the the most difficult parts was trying
- 56:59to explain to people what was going to be in the film without
- 57:01the actual film being made, you know, because that's kind of the
- 57:04whole point of making the film is to communicate a bunch of
- 57:06information in an hour. That's kind of impossible for,
- 57:10you know, for for, for you to do in, in person with people.
- 57:14And so, yeah, I mean, there's so much stuff.
- 57:19You know, there's like if the film's an hour long, it probably
- 57:23have like 500 hours of footage right between interviews and
- 57:26filming here and there. And so probably they'll be spin
- 57:29offs of this and I'll have like longer extended interviews so
- 57:31people can get more, you know, deep stories.
- 57:34Like in North Dakota, for example, you know, working on an
- 57:36oil field, I've never talked to people that worked on an oil
- 57:39field. And to understand the kind of
- 57:42will that it takes to wake up every morning before the sun and
- 57:45to go out in a dangerous environment every day and come
- 57:47back, you know, after the sunsets.
- 57:49And to do that over and over and over again, you know, gave me
- 57:52tremendous respect for them. And there's actual like a
- 57:54brotherhood, a sisterhood that happens out there, you know,
- 57:57where you work in a dangerous environment and you're trusting
- 58:00other people that are on that site before you to come out and
- 58:03to, like, do their job correctly.
- 58:04Because if they don't, they might be putting you in danger
- 58:06and you might not come back that day.
- 58:08And you have that same responsibility for yourself when
- 58:11you're out there. You want to make that you don't
- 58:13set the next person up for failure, you know, to, to, to
- 58:16hurt themselves. So just stuff like that
- 58:19everywhere around the world, like all these people that I
- 58:21met, all these conversations, you know, it's, it's definitely
- 58:26changed me. And yeah, again, I think 1st and
- 58:29maybe people watch the film and they can ask me like more about,
- 58:32you know, any particular place. But, you know, I went to
- 58:34Jamaica, Argentina, El Salvador, Latvia, Dubai, Italy, Kenya, a
- 58:41handful of states across the US. So yeah, I think and like you're
- 58:46saying for any content creator, you know, like I have a lot of
- 58:51respect for what you guys do here.
- 58:52I know it's a grind and like I spent two years doing this and
- 58:55now I can kind of take a break and go back to some of the stuff
- 58:57that I was doing before. But I know you guys are are
- 58:59still chipping away at it. So, you know, kudos to you guys.
- 59:01And so I think, yeah, for any other content creators out
- 59:04there, it's just another testament of like, you know, if
- 59:07you have a dream and you're willing to put the work in and
- 59:10go in day in and day out, then anything is possible.
- 59:13So yeah, I guess that's what I would say.
- 59:16Love it. Well, I'm going to pass it over
- 59:18to. Chris here because he was giving
- 59:19you some praise earlier about the movie.
- 59:21So Chris, you want to chime in here for the audience?
- 59:24Yeah, No, I was just going to ask you, outside of like going
- 59:27to the oil fields in North Dakota and learning about like,
- 59:29I guess the mining process and ultimately, like oil extraction,
- 59:32what is anything else that you learned from interviewing all
- 59:35these people and all these hours in all these different
- 59:37countries? What was like the most eye
- 59:38opening thing? Yeah.
- 59:42I always, always gravitate towards the Kenya stuff because
- 59:44like man, you know, people have power.
- 59:47It just really changes, changes your life.
- 59:49But also, even like in Jamaica and Argentina, you know, you
- 59:53read about inflation, you have an idea of how your life
- 59:56changes. But when you actually talk to
- 59:57people who are, you know, skipping meals or spending four
- 1:00:01hours a day in their market determining what the price of
- 1:00:03their goods should be, you know, it's, it's different.
- 1:00:09You know, you get a lot of information from people just in
- 1:00:12their emotions and, and in person and.
- 1:00:16And so, yeah, I think that's probably the most impactful.
- 1:00:19It's just meeting all of these people, not even the Bitcoiners,
- 1:00:22just the regular people that are living, you know, through these,
- 1:00:25these these crazy inflation And like, and also just making that
- 1:00:30connection of like, that's the trend that the US is going in.
- 1:00:33I mean, who knows what happens with the, you know, the
- 1:00:35strategic reserve, if they can actually, you know, dampen
- 1:00:38inflation, but if not, it's like everything's trending in that
- 1:00:41direction. I mean, people are already
- 1:00:43living month to month in the USA and, you know, skipping meals
- 1:00:47doesn't seem that impossible if prices keep going up In
- 1:00:51Argentina, there's subsidies for everything.
- 1:00:53Like a crazy percentage of the population works for the
- 1:00:56government. It lays in there now cutting
- 1:00:57stuff down. Maybe that'll help a bit.
- 1:00:59But that's the trend I see in the US, lots of government
- 1:01:02workers. And so.
- 1:01:04So yeah. And then, of course, like, you
- 1:01:06know, I interviewed Rockstar Dev and Eric Kayson and those guys
- 1:01:10just, they're so brilliant. And they have, they have an
- 1:01:14energy that kind of lingers with you after you talk to them.
- 1:01:18And then of course, like there's some well known people in the
- 1:01:20film like Graham Hancock and Robert Malone.
- 1:01:23And I never imagined I would be, you know, interviewing those
- 1:01:26guys, especially Graham Hancock, you know, for people that don't
- 1:01:28know, he's more known for ancient civilization stuff.
- 1:01:31He's got a show on Netflix. But in 1989, he wrote a book
- 1:01:34about foreign aid, which Alex Gladstein actually takes a lot
- 1:01:37of inspiration from. And if you read Alex Gladstein's
- 1:01:40book, he actually sites Graham Hancock's book called Lords of
- 1:01:42Poverty often. And so, you know, that's what
- 1:01:46Graham and I talked about. And so to be able to actually
- 1:01:48sit down with him and, and have a conversation, you know, was
- 1:01:51like a, a real dream come true. So to be honest, I don't know if
- 1:01:55I've actually fully digested everything that's happened over
- 1:01:57the last couple of years, you know, so it's been, yeah, maybe
- 1:02:04in the next year I'll be able to digest it all.
- 1:02:06But everywhere I went, you know, I have friends in all these
- 1:02:10different places now and have the opportunity to see things
- 1:02:14and places I never thought I would.
- 1:02:15So, yeah, lots of things, man, Lots and lots of things.
- 1:02:21Yeah, No, I think that's awesome.
- 1:02:23And. Yeah, to your point, I mean,
- 1:02:24Opti and I and Shooter, I don't know where you're from, but I'm
- 1:02:27assuming you're in either Canada or the US, but we've been very
- 1:02:30fortunate that to like, yeah, we see inflation even more so in
- 1:02:33the last couple years. But yeah, in other parts of the
- 1:02:35world, I can't imagine when they talk about this a lot in the
- 1:02:37Bitcoin community, just the mental strain and the economic
- 1:02:41calculation you're doing. I know people always say like to
- 1:02:44be a good investor, you have to be half time good investor and
- 1:02:46half time whatever your occupation is if you aren't just
- 1:02:49an out and out investor yourself.
- 1:02:50But to your point, like, if you're doing economic
- 1:02:52calculations, you know, you're going through a market and
- 1:02:54you're like, hey, like, milk is three times more expensive than
- 1:02:57it was yesterday. Eggs are double the price.
- 1:02:58All the food I'm doing is double the price.
- 1:03:00Either I have to skip meals or work harder or pick up more
- 1:03:03shifts or get a second, third, fourth job.
- 1:03:05Yeah. I can only imagine what it is
- 1:03:07like, you living through hyperinflation in the true
- 1:03:09sense. Yeah.
- 1:03:11So I just want to say commend you for your work.
- 1:03:12I really enjoyed the film. I, I really liked it.
- 1:03:15I thought it was good and definitely worth people's time
- 1:03:17and attention. And I thought you did a great
- 1:03:18job. Now, now you've got me excited
- 1:03:21for like the additional content you'll release over the coming
- 1:03:23years of some of the great interviews.
- 1:03:25I think that is the difficulty of something like this with you,
- 1:03:27like you said, having 500 hours and then trying to pair it down
- 1:03:30to an hour. I feel like you definitely could
- 1:03:32have done at least two hours easily, but no, I really
- 1:03:34appreciate it and I'll toss it back to Opti if he has any more
- 1:03:37questions. No, I was just going to give
- 1:03:39shooter a moment here to do you know, the last TLDR elevator
- 1:03:44pitch get people over to no more inflation, you know, get them to
- 1:03:48watch the video. So the floor is yours, shooter?
- 1:03:51Yeah, cool. I mean I.
- 1:03:52I think the film kind of speaks for itself.
- 1:03:54So, yeah, if you, you know, value independent artists and
- 1:03:59you value people making stuff in the Bitcoin space, head over to
- 1:04:02No More Inflation. It's pretty sweet.
- 1:04:05It's only 10 bucks right now. You can pay with a card or if
- 1:04:07you pay with lightning, you get a 8.21% discount.
- 1:04:11And then you get access to the film for a week.
- 1:04:13And, and yeah, like, you know, all of those funds come directly
- 1:04:18to me. There's no platform in the
- 1:04:19middle. And yeah, we'll see what
- 1:04:21happens. Definitely the, the main goal of
- 1:04:23this is to get it far and wide. And so again, I, I, in my
- 1:04:26opinion, it's just a matter of time before a big platform is
- 1:04:30interested in it. I don't think inflation is going
- 1:04:32to go anywhere, especially like I, I, you know, I think a lot of
- 1:04:36people have hope that Trump's going to kind of come in there
- 1:04:38and help solve it. But when that doesn't happen and
- 1:04:41the price of things keep going up, I think people are really
- 1:04:44going to have hard questions to ask themselves like, OK, what am
- 1:04:49I going to do about this inflation thing?
- 1:04:51So I think it's a matter of time before the appetite is there and
- 1:04:54a big platform really wants to see this.
- 1:04:56But in the meantime, you know, if you want to help support me,
- 1:04:59if you want to see something awesome, you know, I I think
- 1:05:03it's it's the most powerful one hour in existence, you know, for
- 1:05:09Bitcoin. So, yeah, if you like Bitcoin,
- 1:05:11if you like independent artists, if you like value for value, if
- 1:05:14you, you know, if you care, go watch it.
- 1:05:18If not, you know, it's all good, man.
- 1:05:20I'll, I'll keep pushing. And yeah, really, again, the
- 1:05:23goal was to reach the normies. You know that my my job will be
- 1:05:27done. You can send me flowers when you
- 1:05:29have the normies in your life coming to you saying, hey, I
- 1:05:32just saw this film. No more inflation.
- 1:05:34I know you've been telling me about Bitcoin for so long, but
- 1:05:36now I really want to get involved.
- 1:05:38Like, please walk me through this thing.
- 1:05:40Then my job is done. In the meantime, you know, you
- 1:05:43can help me by by renting the film and just by sharing it with
- 1:05:48people and helping me get it to the right eyes that have the
- 1:05:52connection to get it on a big platform.
- 1:05:54So that's the pitch. That's the plug.
- 1:05:57I'm proud of it. I know you'll love it.
- 1:05:59Everybody loves it. If you have an hour, if you got
- 1:06:0110 bucks, you know, Yeah, take a look.
- 1:06:04Love it, shooter Elaine's. Comment in the chat, though, is
- 1:06:07hilarious. You said, you know, inflation's
- 1:06:09here to stay and she goes, yes, inflation is going somewhere.
- 1:06:13It's going up. As we all know, inflation is
- 1:06:16here to stay. They're going to keep printing
- 1:06:18money. You need to find a way to
- 1:06:20protect yourself and spreading this information.
- 1:06:22As we've seen in the election season in the US, inflation is
- 1:06:25one of the hot button topics. So people are starting to feel
- 1:06:27the strain and I'm starting to see it on Twitter as well.
- 1:06:30A lot of people talking about how expensive life is and how,
- 1:06:34you know, they're working 2 plus jobs to barely survive.
- 1:06:37And you know, our parents didn't work this much.
- 1:06:40Or maybe you're just not grinding hard enough.
- 1:06:42You need to work 80 hours a week, bro.
- 1:06:44And yeah, all that is good. But really to start saving in
- 1:06:48Bitcoin and year over year, your savings will increase instead of
- 1:06:52decreasing and getting debased and your life gets better.
- 1:06:55And I think this is this is what we all try to push is we don't
- 1:06:59need to use any money that is designed to steal from us.
- 1:07:01We don't need to use any money with inflation baked in.
- 1:07:04There is a better way. It is Bitcoin.
- 1:07:06There is a better savings technology, the superior money
- 1:07:09that is Bitcoin. And so kudos to you Shooter for
- 1:07:12making the film. Let's we'll bring you back on
- 1:07:15soon when you maybe got another film.
- 1:07:17But you know, I don't know, I don't know how long that one's
- 1:07:19going to take, but we'll bring you back on the show.
- 1:07:22So actually, Shooter, when you plug your Twitter real quick,
- 1:07:25and then I'll do the same for Chris, and then we'll wrap up
- 1:07:27today's show. Yeah, cool.
- 1:07:30Twitter at Let's Go. Simple enough?
- 1:07:32Go to No more inflation dot. Com guys, check out the film and
- 1:07:35Chris to you as well for the audio listeners, plug your
- 1:07:38Twitter account. Thanks for coming on again, bro.
- 1:07:41Actually, I think Chris is going to come on Wednesday as well.
- 1:07:45For you guys wondering where Nikko is, I don't even know if I
- 1:07:48can drop the sauce here, but he is with a yeah.
- 1:07:52I'm not going to say he's with an influential bitcoiner right
- 1:07:55now. He's whining and dining right
- 1:07:57now. I can't say who, but I'm sure
- 1:08:00you guys would. You guys would be stoked to hear
- 1:08:02it. So thank you for coming on,
- 1:08:04Chris. I'll plug your Twitter real
- 1:08:05quick and then we'll wrap up today's show.
- 1:08:09Yeah. Thanks guys, always a pleasure.
- 1:08:11Being here Opti, my Twitter is at Chris Aleimo and then the
- 1:08:13number six. You can also find me at Noster
- 1:08:16Chris Aleimo at Chris at B dot TC.
- 1:08:20So Yep, that's my nip 5. Let's go, let's go.
- 1:08:23Well, it's a pleasure opty. Happy new year.
- 1:08:25You as well dude you as well. I'm going to put you guys behind
- 1:08:28the scene and we'll wrap up the show.
- 1:08:29Hang for a couple seconds, guys. Thanks for coming on hanging out
- 1:08:37with us. You know, as always, like
- 1:08:40subscribe comment, help us get pushed in the out goes help us,
- 1:08:44you know, educate more people about why they need to save in
- 1:08:47Bitcoin, why they need to acquire as much Bitcoin as
- 1:08:50possible. It's a very simple message, but
- 1:08:51it still seems like people don't get it.
- 1:08:53So on that note, guys, we'll be back tomorrow.
- 1:08:56The show don't stop. I'm in.
- 1:09:00It's going into the new year and that just, it's never ending,
- 1:09:03guys. It is what it is.
- 1:09:04All right. Love you guys.
- 1:09:04We'll be back tomorrow with our same show, Nico.
- 1:09:06We'll be here tomorrow. I think.
- 1:09:08I don't know. Don't hold me to it.
- 1:09:09All right, peace out, guys. Today's episode was brought to
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