Latest / Love You Moore with Willie Moore Jr. / How I Learned to Love Myself Again | Avent Gray
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- 0:00[SPEAKER_04]: Hey family, welcome to the Love You More Show.
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- 0:19[SPEAKER_04]: It's coming up next.
- 0:20[SPEAKER_04]: Flat out.
- 0:20[SPEAKER_02]: Next, on the Love You More Show, you won't have, I'm have, and it's have, and feel that I got to buy a guest too, because there's one thing to be the associate pastor's wife.
- 0:29[SPEAKER_02]: It's another thing to be the senior pastor's wife.
- 0:33[SPEAKER_02]: You know, there's an expectation, and I feel like I'm just enough, you know, education, and yes, God, and all of that, and also, you know, drop it like it's high.
- 0:43[SPEAKER_02]: If I need to, so it's
- 0:45[SPEAKER_02]: I was not the best wife at the beginning because I immediately became mother.
- 0:51[SPEAKER_02]: Marriage is a real life commitment to God on behalf of the other person, not to the person.
- 1:00[SPEAKER_02]: I think the hardest part for me, I want to speak to me personally, is the lack of, are you okay versus, you know, the screenshots that I know you passed around or
- 1:12[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, what's happening?
- 1:34[SPEAKER_04]: Depending on where you when you watch this, we may be over a million too, but just know right now as we speak we're over 150,000 subscribers and I want to start like really bragging, but I just want to lift Jesus right now.
- 1:45[SPEAKER_04]: I would love to tell you that we came up with this amazing strategy and what we wanted to do with this.
- 1:50[SPEAKER_04]: And then we did this and then we did this but the truth is we ain't do none of them All we did was put episodes out and thanks to God expanding our territory and freaking your heart And you watching it not as thing is expanding all around the world it's almost like I can't go anywhere without somebody saying hey I see the podcast and this is what I tell them
- 2:08[SPEAKER_04]: It's a show.
- 2:09[SPEAKER_04]: Let's get that out of the way and you owe me $100 if you've been watching and everybody lasts, but I wanted to take the time in the beginning of this show to tell you how much I appreciate you.
- 2:19[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
- 2:19[SPEAKER_04]: That'll be listen.
- 2:20[SPEAKER_04]: If you're new to the show, I want to challenge you to subscribe to this channel.
- 2:24[SPEAKER_04]: Of course, you know that there are so many different shows to be watched, but if you want to be a part of what we're doing, please subscribe to this channel.
- 2:31[SPEAKER_04]: I need you to do it.
- 2:32[SPEAKER_04]: I like to see the numbers go up.
- 2:33[SPEAKER_04]: All right, family, today, I get the esteemed privilege to hang out with a young lady that I've watched for years and years.
- 2:38[SPEAKER_04]: Of course, many times when you see people, you never get the opportunity to get to know them.
- 2:43[SPEAKER_04]: I was riding the other day.
- 2:44[SPEAKER_04]: And I was thinking about, you know, just powerful women that I've seen
- 2:49[SPEAKER_04]: Um, have the proper decorum in victories.
- 2:52[SPEAKER_04]: I see them in in trials and just a person who was able to stay steadfast and all that she was going through.
- 2:57[SPEAKER_04]: And I said, I got to call this lady and see if she could come this week.
- 3:01[SPEAKER_04]: And luckily for us, she was able to come.
- 3:05[SPEAKER_04]: She is a mother.
- 3:06[SPEAKER_04]: She is a wife.
- 3:07[SPEAKER_04]: She's an entrepreneur.
- 3:08[SPEAKER_04]: She is a speaker.
- 3:09[SPEAKER_04]: And guess what?
- 3:10[SPEAKER_04]: She got that neighborhood in her too.
- 3:12[SPEAKER_04]: Just like you, you're gonna fill it in your shop, not not.
- 3:14[SPEAKER_04]: I get the esteem privilege right now to hang out with the one and only.
- 3:18[SPEAKER_02]: What's going on, Sue?
- 3:19[SPEAKER_02]: Brother, what's going on?
- 3:21[SPEAKER_02]: This is amazing.
- 3:22[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so proud of you.
- 3:23[SPEAKER_02]: Come on, I'm going to take them clear.
- 3:24[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to give you claps because you deserve it.
- 3:27[SPEAKER_02]: And I hate when people see.
- 3:30[SPEAKER_02]: their friends and family doing well and they don't mention it and they don't say anything about like all that's cute.
- 3:35[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's amazing.
- 3:36[SPEAKER_02]: Every opportunity that you have to use the market place to lift up Jesus and to be authentic is beautiful.
- 3:42[SPEAKER_02]: So love you more.
- 3:44[SPEAKER_02]: It's getting dear to my heart.
- 3:46[SPEAKER_02]: I found it too.
- 3:47[SPEAKER_02]: I love it too.
- 3:48[SPEAKER_02]: So thank you.
- 3:49[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you for having me.
- 3:51[SPEAKER_04]: I've been watching you for a long time, and I know you have literally been one of the most amazing consistent people that I've ever seen in my life.
- 4:00[SPEAKER_04]: So I do appreciate you being here.
- 4:02[SPEAKER_04]: So the way we do it here on the Love You More Show, we like to do a icebreaker.
- 4:05[SPEAKER_04]: And we use music as a icebreaker.
- 4:08[SPEAKER_04]: So this particular song is actually called Clockwork.
- 4:11[SPEAKER_04]: And it's a time when I was going through a lot in my former marriage, and I decided to go to counseling.
- 4:17[SPEAKER_04]: Check this out.
- 4:18[SPEAKER_04]: So wifey started counseling and she thought it would be a good idea for me to come to counseling.
- 4:22[SPEAKER_04]: Man, nobody really want to do this because I know she's been telling this woman all my business I walk in the counseling.
- 4:28[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't know how council would this fine She been telling all my business.
- 4:31[SPEAKER_04]: I walk in.
- 4:32[SPEAKER_04]: Hey ladies.
- 4:34[SPEAKER_04]: Oh I was at the wrong spot and I'm on.
- 4:36[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you for joining us.
- 4:38[SPEAKER_04]: Truly my honor Willy Maltz.
- 4:40[SPEAKER_04]: She nice to meet you my honor.
- 4:42[SPEAKER_04]: This is my counselor April so nice to meet her wifey life so glad you can make it darling.
- 4:47[SPEAKER_04]: It's truly my honor.
- 4:48[SPEAKER_04]: You look amazing You do too energy in the room a little tears wife and tell my business
- 4:53[SPEAKER_04]: So let's talk this out and from a hug I'm like, okay, you ready?
- 5:00[SPEAKER_04]: I am, you know, um, whatever you want me to do, I'm with it.
- 5:04[SPEAKER_04]: Are you gonna tell the truth?
- 5:05[SPEAKER_04]: I promise I'm gonna tell the truth you worthy.
- 5:07[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I was a little like a Christmas tree when I told her she was worth the child.
- 5:22[SPEAKER_03]: Like a clock around, you know what stops, this is.
- 6:26[SPEAKER_04]: The name of the song is Clockwork.
- 6:27[SPEAKER_04]: That's crazy.
- 6:29[SPEAKER_04]: Come on.
- 6:29[SPEAKER_04]: Make sure you go download it if it's available right now to pin it on where you watch it.
- 6:33[SPEAKER_04]: So the scene is, we decided to go to counseling because we were going so much, going through so much in our relationship.
- 6:40[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I know that you have literally moved so many times.
- 6:45[SPEAKER_04]: In fact, I think you were seven and a half much pregnant when you had to.
- 6:54[SPEAKER_04]: only later on to have to move to Greenville.
- 6:57[SPEAKER_04]: Talk a little bit about the conversations that you had to have with your husband to uproot your family and you already pregnant and you now have to go like what were those conversations like and did it require some formal counselor?
- 7:09[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.
- 7:11[SPEAKER_04]: I know we're talking you back.
- 7:12[SPEAKER_04]: I've been a minute, but I just remember there.
- 7:15[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm I'm literally sitting in in my living room, remembering what I had on her foot shirt that said baby loading when my husband shared with me that he had heard from Pastor Joel and.
- 7:33[SPEAKER_02]: that he wanted us to move to Houston.
- 7:36[SPEAKER_02]: And so I was like, okay, when?
- 7:39[SPEAKER_02]: And he was like, well, as soon as we can.
- 7:40[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, okay.
- 7:43[SPEAKER_02]: And what I wanna go back to is proposal day.
- 7:49[SPEAKER_02]: My husband at that time was very candid with me.
- 7:53[SPEAKER_02]: He was like,
- 7:55[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I like you to go on an adventure with me.
- 7:57[SPEAKER_02]: That was a part of the proposal.
- 7:58[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, okay, what type of adventure?
- 8:01[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, I don't know where we live.
- 8:04[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what city will end up in.
- 8:06[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
- 8:07[SPEAKER_02]: Um, sometimes we'll have money.
- 8:09[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes we won't.
- 8:10[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, I moved by faith and, you know, if you accept, you know, being my wife,
- 8:18[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to be on a roller coaster just living out whatever I feel like God is telling me to do in a moment.
- 8:24[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, are you ready for that?
- 8:25[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, I think I can be.
- 8:28[SPEAKER_04]: I can't be there with so good.
- 8:31[SPEAKER_04]: I'm learning so much right now.
- 8:32[SPEAKER_04]: Go ahead.
- 8:33[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 8:34[SPEAKER_02]: And so I looked at him and I looked at my parents and I looked at the people in the room because he had a surprise.
- 8:40[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it was a graduation party for me and a surprise proposal, you know, engagement party.
- 8:47[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, yeah, I can go on an adventure.
- 8:50[SPEAKER_02]: I said, I'm a writer, so, you know, when you feel like you want to jump off the track, come on with you back on, so it was literally in that moment that I remembered what I said yes to and I said yes to an adventure.
- 9:04[SPEAKER_02]: So, all right, I'm pregnant who will accept me, you know, what kind of college is going to take me this late in pregnancy and in Houston, you know, what does that feel like and look like I said so if it's got you'll have it lined up.
- 9:17[SPEAKER_02]: And first, gynaecologist I call connected her to who I was already seeing here, beautiful black gynaecologist Michelle Martin, talk right here in Atlanta, who it delivered for, uh, at Northside here.
- 9:33[SPEAKER_02]: And she connected me with someone in Houston who said based on my previous, you know, experience with for that she didn't feel a rift and taking me so she took me on, which never happens.
- 9:47[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't happen like seven months pregnant.
- 9:49[SPEAKER_02]: I met with her and we immediately clicked and so that was my first piece that I was going to have somebody that would take me and know that she would be coming in the next couple of months.
- 9:59[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, um, a month and a half.
- 10:01[SPEAKER_02]: And that's to do.
- 10:01[SPEAKER_02]: That's to to.
- 10:02[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 10:02[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 10:03[SPEAKER_02]: For the ATL and she's a Houstonian.
- 10:06[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 10:06[SPEAKER_02]: So, um.
- 10:08[SPEAKER_02]: When we got the call from Pastor Joel and he invited us out, I said, okay, well, let's go.
- 10:15[SPEAKER_02]: What is God telling you?
- 10:17[SPEAKER_02]: What I signed up for was to believe that you were here in from God.
- 10:21[SPEAKER_02]: And so if you said, this is what you heard from God, then I'm going to take that as a guess.
- 10:25[SPEAKER_02]: He had already been inviting him multiple times, like on Wednesdays and then it started becoming more frequent.
- 10:31[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, I believe this is an interview.
- 10:34[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, so you, you could already feel yeah.
- 10:36[SPEAKER_04]: So did you grow up with like a father who was a pastor like how will you so able to go with somebody who's gonna take on take you on I've been church.
- 10:43[SPEAKER_02]: I grew up as a visionary Baptist.
- 10:45[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a country girl.
- 10:46[SPEAKER_02]: I'm from Alabama and I wear that as a badge of honor Don't sell these Alabama.
- 10:50[SPEAKER_02]: Don't thin Alabama.
- 10:51[SPEAKER_02]: I love me
- 10:53[SPEAKER_02]: and the doc, circle city.
- 10:55[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, about 68,000 people will be big.
- 10:58[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, Ruby.
- 11:01[SPEAKER_02]: No, seriously, it's out these Alabama is in the tri-state area.
- 11:04[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm 15 minutes from Florida, 20 from Georgia, whichever way you go, which is how ended up going to Florida, and then.
- 11:11[SPEAKER_02]: uh, to college, shout out to the rally.
- 11:13[SPEAKER_02]: Shout out to the rallies.
- 11:15[SPEAKER_02]: HBCU life, um, but in regards to hearing from God, uh, for moving.
- 11:23[SPEAKER_02]: So my father, no, he's not a past that.
- 11:27[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my father could be founded in the club, gambling and drinking, but he was a great provider.
- 11:33[SPEAKER_02]: Now, my, me, she's usherboard number two, the general usherboard president, so and so all of that.
- 11:38[SPEAKER_02]: Daddy, not so much, but they click.
- 11:41[SPEAKER_02]: They'll be married for 55 years on March 28th.
- 11:44[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
- 11:44[SPEAKER_02]: So I guess it's that thing where the opposite, you know, they really do attract.
- 11:49[SPEAKER_02]: He loves the Lord.
- 11:50[SPEAKER_02]: He has relationship with God.
- 11:52[SPEAKER_02]: But my dad was a foreman and construction worker.
- 11:56[SPEAKER_02]: And then after he retired from that, he started driving 18 wheelers.
- 12:01[SPEAKER_02]: So he was in and out a whole lot.
- 12:03[SPEAKER_02]: during my childhood.
- 12:06[SPEAKER_02]: So I have a great relationship with him, but he was not in the house every single day.
- 12:11[SPEAKER_02]: I see it was weekend at it because he was driving and working because that was his notes for providing provision.
- 12:20[SPEAKER_02]: So, um,
- 12:21[SPEAKER_02]: No, I just, I just had, I'd watched how my mother interacted with my father.
- 12:26[SPEAKER_02]: He would give her, you know, tidbits of this is what I feel like we need to do.
- 12:32[SPEAKER_02]: Because if I can be honest, my parents moved from Florida to New Jersey.
- 12:38[SPEAKER_02]: And then back to Alabama, my dad lost the job that he, you know, thought he was going to have.
- 12:44[SPEAKER_02]: So she had just moved into this home, my childhood home that they still live in.
- 12:52[SPEAKER_02]: And he was like, I'm going to have to go back to New Jersey to like make this work.
- 12:56[SPEAKER_02]: And so come back and forth and is that okay, she had faith in that.
- 13:00[SPEAKER_02]: And so that's what I saw.
- 13:03[SPEAKER_02]: He moved there and then he moved back and moved you know moving back and forth between New Jersey and Alabama and then until he started driving trucks, which again took him out on the road and back.
- 13:14[SPEAKER_02]: So I find it ironic that God would pair me with someone who was I tenorant as well.
- 13:19[SPEAKER_02]: So he had to go in.
- 13:21[SPEAKER_02]: Come on, I'll tenor your down.
- 13:23[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, at the time at the time.
- 13:25[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because we were, you know, we were serving Bishop Long and then he was traveling all over doing teen mania with acquire the fire Pastor Ron Luce doing all of that stuff all of that was happening as we got married so I knew we would be traveling everywhere we would be here here here here and here.
- 13:46[SPEAKER_02]: And so Lakewood was a lot more steady and a lot more so actually welcomed the I was like yeah cool we get a kind of like a little piece and the relationship between Pastor Joel and John was that of, you know, take care of things here.
- 13:59[SPEAKER_02]: You can go wherever you want.
- 14:00[SPEAKER_02]: I'm fine.
- 14:01[SPEAKER_02]: So he wasn't in the passage.
- 14:02[SPEAKER_02]: What I love about Pastor Joel.
- 14:03[SPEAKER_02]: He wasn't insecure about what John had because they had two different colleagues.
- 14:08[SPEAKER_02]: So they worked.
- 14:08[SPEAKER_02]: There was a great synergy between the two of them.
- 14:12[SPEAKER_02]: where as long as he was cool and he didn't need anything, he'd be like, Presto, what do you think about this?
- 14:17[SPEAKER_02]: I think you should go, John, you know, that kind of thing.
- 14:19[SPEAKER_02]: And there's no, that's him.
- 14:21[SPEAKER_02]: I think you should go, John, I think you'd be great, smiling.
- 14:25[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I didn't, I didn't have a reservation like I did coming to Greenville.
- 14:30[SPEAKER_02]: That was harder.
- 14:31[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I wanted to talk about it.
- 14:32[SPEAKER_02]: So going to Houston was great, you know, I found footing there.
- 14:39[SPEAKER_02]: love it there, love the city, and everything was great.
- 14:44[SPEAKER_02]: And then you get this call Ron Carpenter and it's looking for a pastor.
- 14:49[SPEAKER_02]: A replacement for him because he's in California.
- 14:52[SPEAKER_02]: The Lord told him to go out there.
- 14:53[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 14:55[SPEAKER_02]: he gets to call.
- 14:55[SPEAKER_02]: He brings that to you.
- 14:56[SPEAKER_02]: He gets to call.
- 14:57[SPEAKER_02]: We're in the middle of filming the book of John Gray, you know, and it's like real time.
- 15:02[SPEAKER_02]: So everything that was set up for us to help other people in regards to the show immediately turned to a family moment like you're about to become a first lady who said that I was going to do that.
- 15:13[SPEAKER_02]: Did I agree to that?
- 15:15[SPEAKER_02]: No.
- 15:16[SPEAKER_02]: And it turns to, you know,
- 15:22[SPEAKER_02]: I'm about to go, God told me that I need to move and the Lord told me that you were the one to take it.
- 15:29[SPEAKER_02]: And so he's outside on the phone on the October of 2017.
- 15:34[SPEAKER_02]: I mind you.
- 15:34[SPEAKER_02]: I just had my dream home.
- 15:36[SPEAKER_02]: We just moved into July 2017.
- 15:38[SPEAKER_02]: So October, the Lord was already doing something else.
- 15:42[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
- 15:44[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and he was like, can you come?
- 15:47[SPEAKER_02]: How soon can you get here, the Lord told me to leave?
- 15:49[SPEAKER_02]: That's what he says.
- 15:50[SPEAKER_02]: He said, the Lord told him to go to the California.
- 15:53[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh, what did I have to do with this?
- 15:55[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have to do with this, not this and now, because I'm true.
- 15:59[SPEAKER_02]: I love Beyonce.
- 16:00[SPEAKER_02]: I love dance.
- 16:01[SPEAKER_02]: I have tattoos.
- 16:02[SPEAKER_02]: I went to an HBCU.
- 16:03[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to drop it when I want to.
- 16:05[SPEAKER_02]: are the people going to be okay with that?
- 16:07[SPEAKER_02]: Because I'm going to be me.
- 16:08[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not changing for anyone and if God is good with me because he made me this way and you're fine with me.
- 16:14[SPEAKER_02]: How was the people feel about First Lady Tattoo Weeks, color, braids today week tomorrow?
- 16:21[SPEAKER_02]: How was the people feel about that?
- 16:22[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
- 16:23[SPEAKER_02]: And he was like, I'm fine with you.
- 16:25[SPEAKER_02]: I'm rocking with you.
- 16:26[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm just passionate about it.
- 16:28[SPEAKER_00]: No, my husband.
- 16:29[SPEAKER_00]: No, yeah, no.
- 16:30[SPEAKER_02]: Me and him discussing the opportunity.
- 16:32[SPEAKER_02]: You know, because there's one thing to be the associate pastor's wife.
- 16:36[SPEAKER_02]: It's another thing to be the senior pastor's wife You know, there's an expectation and I feel like I'm just enough You know education and yes God and all of that and also, you know, drop it like it's high if I need to so it's right
- 16:52[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
- 16:54[SPEAKER_02]: It's right there.
- 16:55[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, I'm not Victoria Osteen.
- 16:59[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not Serita Jakes.
- 17:01[SPEAKER_02]: I'm none of those people.
- 17:02[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Adventur.
- 17:03[SPEAKER_02]: So it's Adventur only okay.
- 17:05[SPEAKER_02]: I want to tell you to move up to this image of what they think I should be.
- 17:10[SPEAKER_02]: You never had to fight with it.
- 17:12[SPEAKER_02]: There's an episode on our show where I invite first ladies and to talk to me to share with them, you know, my apprehension into stepping into this.
- 17:23[SPEAKER_02]: Not that I can't.
- 17:23[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I've passed it all my life.
- 17:25[SPEAKER_02]: I've passed it teens who I taught dance to because I'm a dance of ballet jazz tap modern.
- 17:31[SPEAKER_02]: You know, gymnastics, all of those things I did.
- 17:35[SPEAKER_02]: I started my first little dance ministry when I was like 14 years old.
- 17:39[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 17:40[SPEAKER_02]: And then of course, going to college, I joined a dance company at fam you and then my church under watch care literally started, you know, teaching dance at my church.
- 17:51[SPEAKER_02]: So it's always been a thing.
- 17:53[SPEAKER_02]: Then when I got a job and when I came to Atlanta work the new birth.
- 17:56[SPEAKER_02]: I worked at new birth.
- 17:57[SPEAKER_02]: I was teaching dance because we had a dance school.
- 18:00[SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like I've been.
- 18:02[SPEAKER_02]: pastoring teens or people, kids, whatever, for a really long time, just not under the auspices of I'm a pastor.
- 18:11[SPEAKER_02]: I think that people can be pastors of, I think that you have pastes in this room who make sure that your show is a pastor of the production.
- 18:19[SPEAKER_02]: I think you're a pastor of everything.
- 18:20[SPEAKER_02]: It's just the way you see it and the way you receive it.
- 18:24[SPEAKER_02]: I felt pressure in, is this going to be okay for you?
- 18:27[SPEAKER_02]: Because
- 18:29[SPEAKER_02]: You're the one that people see, you're the one who's going to have to stand up and explain why your wife got on a wig that's purple today, that kind of thing.
- 18:38[SPEAKER_02]: So if you're fine, I'm fine.
- 18:40[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody's fine.
- 18:41[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, not far.
- 18:43[SPEAKER_02]: If he wasn't fine, I was going to be like, are you, you know, what, what are we doing?
- 18:47[SPEAKER_02]: It's a great conversation piece.
- 18:49[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, my husband had a lot of things to kind of realize on his own.
- 18:53[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I realized.
- 18:55[SPEAKER_02]: what Lakewood was was kind of a glimpse into where God was taking us, what greenville was is a time for God to kind of unveil a lot of what you've never dealt with, what I've never dealt with.
- 19:06[SPEAKER_02]: And so you see God taking you on this trajectory and this very real navigation through life where
- 19:14[SPEAKER_02]: Lakewood is comfortable.
- 19:15[SPEAKER_02]: Lakewood is amazing.
- 19:16[SPEAKER_02]: It's great people.
- 19:17[SPEAKER_02]: I love it there.
- 19:18[SPEAKER_02]: We still love it.
- 19:18[SPEAKER_02]: We went when they a few weeks ago had a shooting at the church.
- 19:23[SPEAKER_02]: I said Lakewood is the safest place to be next Sunday.
- 19:25[SPEAKER_02]: And he was like, let's go.
- 19:27[SPEAKER_02]: Because you pull up for family.
- 19:28[SPEAKER_02]: They're still our family.
- 19:30[SPEAKER_02]: They were violated.
- 19:31[SPEAKER_02]: I know I'm all over the place.
- 19:32[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm good.
- 19:32[SPEAKER_04]: Don't just try to family.
- 19:34[SPEAKER_04]: Just don't think coming on me.
- 19:35[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you have to.
- 19:36[SPEAKER_02]: And so.
- 19:37[SPEAKER_02]: You know, they have been violated someone shot at them and all of that stuff is crazy at the church that we were even talking about because you hear about it other places, but when it hits home like that, it's another, you know, another scenario.
- 19:50[SPEAKER_02]: But Lakewood was comfortable and that's what I would hear, you know, John speaking about he'd be yelling screaming because him and God in their relationship is hilarious.
- 19:59[SPEAKER_02]: You can talk to him about that.
- 20:01[SPEAKER_02]: Um, he's like, I, you know, I'm good and Houston, well, you take me to green view.
- 20:06[SPEAKER_02]: I'll help raise loose.
- 20:07[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, no, and at first, I felt the same way until I really had to just extracate myself from John.
- 20:14[SPEAKER_02]: Guess there's there's
- 20:16[SPEAKER_02]: The two are becoming one flesh because when you get married you don't become you become for the duration of the marriage like it doesn't happen at the altar that's where people get they get oh my gosh, it's the wedding in the day to know you're becoming forever and so that's when I had to be like okay this this for avancer what does this mean for me and him the same thing what does this mean for for him it was a lot that got needed to do.
- 20:41[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, oh, y'all like Lakewood, that's great.
- 20:43[SPEAKER_02]: Show on Oprah Winfrey, that's amazing.
- 20:46[SPEAKER_02]: God is great, you know, you did this and you went here and you're hearing, you're hearing, you're hearing, you're here.
- 20:50[SPEAKER_02]: Like that great, go to Greenville.
- 20:52[SPEAKER_04]: In the middle of Greenville, South Carolina, no disrespect to Greenville, I love Greenville, but let's go back on from.
- 20:58[SPEAKER_02]: Houston to Greenville.
- 21:01[SPEAKER_02]: You have like what the fourth largest city in the nation.
- 21:04[SPEAKER_02]: And then you go to a smaller town who was also, you know, the very last city to get a Martin Luther King junior holiday.
- 21:14[SPEAKER_02]: We have to be very real about, you know, where Greenville is located.
- 21:19[SPEAKER_02]: And also the history of racism.
- 21:24[SPEAKER_02]: in that area and I find it crazy just even thinking about us going there and initially when Tasha and Kenny they came to be worship pastors and the music director at relentless and then later on Travis Green coming to South Carolina and
- 21:40[SPEAKER_02]: Columbia and what God was doing is obviously something that is happening in South Carolina that God needed all of these generals around to like take the ownership of whatever that was that needed to go including Ryan.
- 21:56[SPEAKER_02]: And yes, I said it.
- 21:57[SPEAKER_02]: So, um, in the midst of, you know,
- 22:02[SPEAKER_02]: You won't have, I'm have, and it's have unfilled today.
- 22:05[SPEAKER_02]: I got a podcast too.
- 22:06[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 22:07[SPEAKER_02]: Listen, I wasn't.
- 22:08[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 22:09[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but when I think about comfort, comfort is great.
- 22:16[SPEAKER_02]: And if everything is cool, everything is cool.
- 22:18[SPEAKER_02]: But that kind of, like, gets you settled into where you are, and you're not going to God as much, and you're not.
- 22:24[SPEAKER_02]: at his feet much and you're not literally saying God, what do I do next?
- 22:28[SPEAKER_02]: So that's kind of what Lakewood was not in a bad way.
- 22:31[SPEAKER_02]: We did what I feel like God was calling us to do there.
- 22:35[SPEAKER_02]: When you go to Greenville, this is a work that will start at that you're taking over.
- 22:40[SPEAKER_02]: So you're trying to shift it into a new vision, which is hard.
- 22:44[SPEAKER_02]: You're trying to love on the people that were left and kind of confused and didn't even have a voice into, you know, you come in.
- 22:52[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, oh, the pastor that I like, he's leaving, and then he tells me, here's another person that's coming.
- 22:58[SPEAKER_02]: Outside personality, you go from white to black, then you go from someone who is actively filming and has his show on TV, and you're like, well, we'll even get to hug my pastor because, or how is it, or how is she?
- 23:12[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that kind of thing, I can't imagine what the people were going through, and then we have to fill out the city.
- 23:17[SPEAKER_02]: And at the time,
- 23:19[SPEAKER_02]: I had a car, so everywhere I was in that particular car that I don't have to name because it went viral.
- 23:27[SPEAKER_02]: I'm, she's at the store because you're in that car, you know, and then people taking pictures of your car and people taking pictures of the kids and, I mean, it, it, it, it was a lie.
- 23:37[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, what is happening?
- 23:39[SPEAKER_02]: It was horrible.
- 23:41[SPEAKER_02]: So was two of your good thing or a tough thing for you?
- 23:44[SPEAKER_02]: TV wasn't hard for me.
- 23:45[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was more hard for my husband.
- 23:47[SPEAKER_02]: He kind of speaks to that.
- 23:48[SPEAKER_02]: I was fine because I didn't have to become anything.
- 23:51[SPEAKER_02]: I think, John,
- 23:53[SPEAKER_02]: I think what I'm realizing about my husband is that he really won't any of it.
- 23:58[SPEAKER_02]: And it kind of happened so fast.
- 24:00[SPEAKER_02]: He had not dealt with himself before all of the lights came.
- 24:04[SPEAKER_02]: So then you're in it and it's colliding and people don't give you grace for whatever it is.
- 24:10[SPEAKER_02]: First time being a senior pastor and the person who supposed to guide you in it who gave us promises and tells us, hey, I got you, we got you, then all of a sudden, they're mad at you for coming when they invited you
- 24:23[SPEAKER_02]: You know, to take it back and come back and so it's like all of those things and you're looking at God like God now Did we hear you?
- 24:31[SPEAKER_02]: What were we doing?
- 24:32[SPEAKER_02]: What did we do to deserve this?
- 24:34[SPEAKER_02]: The lights and then everybody's all in your business And they're trying to figure out what what's going on with them and what that sounds like I got actually this so what made you?
- 24:43[SPEAKER_04]: question and talk to God versus looking at your husband like, did you hear?
- 24:48[SPEAKER_04]: Oh no, I didn't know.
- 24:50[SPEAKER_02]: I asked him if he heard him now.
- 24:53[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 24:53[SPEAKER_02]: I had to, I was like, sir, sir, sir, because this don't feel, but then I had to go to scripture.
- 24:59[SPEAKER_02]: It looks exactly what scripture, like, because everybody likes you.
- 25:02[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody's pulling up for Lakewood, everybody.
- 25:05[SPEAKER_02]: Ooh, you got to show.
- 25:06[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's amazing, but when you're in the valley.
- 25:10[SPEAKER_02]: that's where you get to actually grow.
- 25:12[SPEAKER_02]: Actually know who you are, actually know who you were destined to be.
- 25:17[SPEAKER_02]: Because in comfort, you're not stretching.
- 25:19[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 25:19[SPEAKER_02]: But when it's your thing and you're responsible and all of these people you're responsible for, you don't get to be second.
- 25:27[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't worry about how the lights got paid at Lakewood.
- 25:30[SPEAKER_02]: We just worried about coming and being on time.
- 25:32[SPEAKER_02]: I'm on time for better together for the women when we get to what you want.
- 25:37[SPEAKER_02]: Right, I mean, women in the wear when pass the Victoria needs me and when pass the girl needs him on Wednesday.
- 25:43[SPEAKER_02]: That's fine, or on the weekend when he's away.
- 25:45[SPEAKER_02]: That's all we had to worry about here.
- 25:47[SPEAKER_02]: You've got everything, everything, you know, rising them falls on whether or not you're hearing from God and that, that what you do.
- 25:55[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 25:56[SPEAKER_02]: So there were conversations like, did you
- 26:01[SPEAKER_02]: really here and I absolutely know it now on this side five and a half years and almost six years and I'm glad you're lucky.
- 26:09[SPEAKER_02]: It was absolutely necessary because some of the things that we realized even about ourselves individually and collectively I don't think might have been realized if we had been still in Houston and whatever the comfort level was.
- 26:24[SPEAKER_02]: Guy had to bring it all
- 26:26[SPEAKER_02]: all and and with us, not under that umbrella, thank God, but just you, your relentless, your church, your, your, your, your thing.
- 26:36[SPEAKER_02]: This is where I'm going to grow you up.
- 26:37[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
- 26:38[SPEAKER_02]: And that's.
- 26:40[SPEAKER_04]: That was hard.
- 26:40[SPEAKER_04]: So you're a great deal.
- 26:41[SPEAKER_04]: You step out on faith.
- 26:42[SPEAKER_04]: You have everything going for you at Lakewood.
- 26:45[SPEAKER_04]: I won't even lie.
- 26:46[SPEAKER_04]: We excited.
- 26:47[SPEAKER_04]: We like, yeah, I know John down there, Lakewood.
- 26:49[SPEAKER_04]: Like at that particular time, it's the biggest church.
- 26:51[SPEAKER_04]: Not only man, but it wins.
- 26:53[SPEAKER_02]: Like everybody's been.
- 26:54[SPEAKER_04]: They never been.
- 26:56[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you know, seeing people that is like, it's starting to look good on that stage.
- 27:01[SPEAKER_04]: It's starting to look like heaven.
- 27:02[SPEAKER_04]: You know, black, white, Hispanic.
- 27:04[SPEAKER_04]: Like everybody's there.
- 27:05[SPEAKER_04]: You go to Greenville and then you run into these very,
- 27:10[SPEAKER_04]: And it's like, God, where are you in the midst of all of it?
- 27:13[SPEAKER_04]: I remember when I initially started going through all of my medicine in the last three years, I remember my producer, I may have called and he said, we just need her to be like Adventurer Gray.
- 27:23[SPEAKER_04]: We just need her to be by your side.
- 27:25[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, well, that may not be the thing that we can do.
- 27:30[SPEAKER_04]: I understand what one won your yes, because John is such a great guy.
- 27:35[SPEAKER_04]: And he actually told you he was honest, and we got to go on this roller coaster.
- 27:39[SPEAKER_04]: But the roller coaster became very, very hard to ride on.
- 27:43[SPEAKER_04]: What won your stay in the midst of all of the public scrutiny, the mistakes, like you stood flatfooted and was like, I'm gonna stick beside this man.
- 27:55[SPEAKER_04]: More love you more podcast.
- 27:56[SPEAKER_00]: After this,
- 28:01[SPEAKER_04]: You know, our relationships start out beautiful.
- 28:04[SPEAKER_04]: The love is so intense in the beginning until life happens.
- 28:11[SPEAKER_04]: No matter how disciplined you are, temptation is everywhere.
- 28:16[SPEAKER_04]: And we all have to fight with our internal monsters.
- 28:20[SPEAKER_04]: And sometimes we fall into the trap.
- 28:23[SPEAKER_04]: And we hurt the ones we say we love the most.
- 28:26[SPEAKER_04]: As you get older, love one's pass away.
- 28:30[SPEAKER_04]: and you left a little life with a void that you never really anticipated.
- 28:36[SPEAKER_04]: For some reason, people never talk about the parts of you that die when you love one leaves the earth.
- 28:42[SPEAKER_04]: It's so easy to lose who you are in the midst of all it is.
- 28:47[SPEAKER_04]: I lost myself because I forgot to love myself.
- 28:52[SPEAKER_04]: I like to take you on a journey and hopes that you can learn how to love you.
- 28:57[SPEAKER_04]: more.
- 28:58[SPEAKER_04]: Wow, to check out the first episode, log on to love you more.com.
- 29:03[SPEAKER_04]: Published scrutiny, the mistakes, like you stood flatfooted and was like, I'm a stick beside this man.
- 29:10[SPEAKER_02]: You know, what's crazy is that I was going to whip John's ass many times.
- 29:14[SPEAKER_02]: So when people say be like having to grade what having to grade that you want, you know, you see what you see, but I think what people fail to realize is that they're very real humans here.
- 29:26[SPEAKER_02]: Just because you stand on the platform and God called you to it doesn't mean you're not a man.
- 29:30[SPEAKER_02]: You're not a woman with humanity with issues Initially you're like what in the world is going on, but then I was like wow, this predates me.
- 29:39[SPEAKER_02]: This has nothing to do with me But how did you get mentally there because you do counsel and you don't therapy and you go you get low and you stay low and you don't start You don't put on for the city
- 29:52[SPEAKER_02]: You know, a lot of times we, and I love makeup.
- 29:55[SPEAKER_02]: I love hair because you get ready and you love looking good and feeling good.
- 29:58[SPEAKER_02]: It's beautiful.
- 29:59[SPEAKER_02]: All of that's great.
- 30:00[SPEAKER_02]: God gave us all of these, you know, things that we can connect to to make us feel good.
- 30:05[SPEAKER_02]: But at the end of the day, when you take all of that off, who are you?
- 30:09[SPEAKER_02]: And I think, again, I want my husband to speak to him.
- 30:14[SPEAKER_02]: him.
- 30:15[SPEAKER_02]: But I had to realize, you know, it first you're like, well, wait, wait, just a minute.
- 30:19[SPEAKER_02]: What just happened?
- 30:22[SPEAKER_02]: And I said this, I think I said it in an interview with Larry.
- 30:25[SPEAKER_02]: I was not the best wife at the beginning because I immediately became mother and was like, oh, you're all right.
- 30:32[SPEAKER_02]: You get what I'm saying, so, but people don't get my side.
- 30:34[SPEAKER_02]: They don't get my mistakes.
- 30:36[SPEAKER_02]: They don't get my, and it doesn't justify whatever emotional situations that he had going on, which people still think he did.
- 30:42[SPEAKER_02]: X, Y, Z, Cha, what I know is what I know.
- 30:47[SPEAKER_02]: What people fabricated is what they fabricate.
- 30:51[SPEAKER_02]: So, and I don't know, we were going to go out here, but what I want to say for people is that marriage,
- 31:01[SPEAKER_02]: is a real life commitment to God on behalf of the other person, not to the person.
- 31:08[SPEAKER_02]: That's all.
- 31:08[SPEAKER_02]: You're making a commitment to God in front of them.
- 31:12[SPEAKER_02]: God, I'm going to honor you for this person.
- 31:15[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to do what you said for this person on behalf of this person's insignificness and in health till death do us part.
- 31:22[SPEAKER_02]: And death do us part is a long time.
- 31:24[SPEAKER_02]: So you can't look at that part.
- 31:25[SPEAKER_02]: You got to look at when you wake up in the morning.
- 31:28[SPEAKER_02]: doing what you can do that day and then going to bed, wake up and do it again for that day.
- 31:33[SPEAKER_02]: Because that longevity piece will have you in the cloud somewhere and you already feel defeated because of what happened in the garden.
- 31:42[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we're all sinners.
- 31:44[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to wake up and mess up no matter how hard we try to do it right and to get it right.
- 31:51[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to mess up.
- 31:56[SPEAKER_02]: You're not finished when you give your life to a Christ like it's a work that takes place over the course of your life.
- 32:03[SPEAKER_02]: You don't arrive just because you've succeeded and made this amount of money and attained this many followers and all of that success looks different for different people's success.
- 32:13[SPEAKER_02]: For me, it's looking at my children being able to say, you know, mommy's the deities weren't at the door at the first sign of heartbreak or whatever.
- 32:22[SPEAKER_02]: Mommy looked at herself.
- 32:24[SPEAKER_02]: you know, I didn't just place the blame all on that we is a collective situation here.
- 32:30[SPEAKER_02]: I have been a lot, but I also know that a lot of whatever was came out of manifested in my husband was due to childhood traumas that black men don't deal with and haven't had the opportunity to deal with because you always got to be on.
- 32:48[SPEAKER_02]: You have to work harder because you're black.
- 32:50[SPEAKER_02]: You have to do more because you're black.
- 32:52[SPEAKER_02]: You have to kind of push that to the side and provide for your home, provide for your family.
- 32:58[SPEAKER_02]: And nobody asks you how you are.
- 33:00[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody ever says, man, what's it like to care for a wife for boys, for daughters?
- 33:07[SPEAKER_02]: What's it like to wake up and realize that you have a whole household to care for?
- 33:11[SPEAKER_02]: And it rises and falls on you standing up and getting up showing up.
- 33:17[SPEAKER_02]: men, and then for a black man, that's the extra layer, and I think about, you know, my husband, he really missed his father.
- 33:26[SPEAKER_02]: You had a great mother, but she did what she could do for you, and that part of the manhood, that part.
- 33:35[SPEAKER_02]: got left out and the overdoing of whatever she did, not her fault.
- 33:41[SPEAKER_02]: She wasn't there for the abuse moment.
- 33:43[SPEAKER_02]: So she ain't gonna miss no other moments.
- 33:45[SPEAKER_02]: So now it might be over the top and there's that balance of trying to figure out what's too much.
- 33:51[SPEAKER_02]: What's not enough for be there for my son.
- 33:53[SPEAKER_02]: All of that kind of stuff.
- 33:54[SPEAKER_02]: So that plays a part into it.
- 33:57[SPEAKER_02]: And I just had to realize I was like, man, this is crazy and then you don't get the the luxury of being an anonymity while this is happening so that part is extremely hard because you get the
- 34:13[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, she's a writer and then you get Oh, she's a door man.
- 34:16[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, well, I'm going.
- 34:17[SPEAKER_02]: I am what God says.
- 34:19[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what I had to connect to because yes, tears crazy.
- 34:23[SPEAKER_02]: Did I leave and move and leave him and do all that.
- 34:27[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
- 34:27[SPEAKER_02]: Thank God.
- 34:28[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we still have our homie Houston left went there.
- 34:30[SPEAKER_02]: Stay there.
- 34:31[SPEAKER_02]: All of that.
- 34:33[SPEAKER_02]: You want to work on it.
- 34:34[SPEAKER_02]: What do you want to work on it for?
- 34:35[SPEAKER_02]: Because I'm not working on it for people.
- 34:36[SPEAKER_02]: I'm working on it for if you want this, you know, and you get the everybody has something to say everybody has an opinion, but it's just I don't got like I'm standing on guys business.
- 34:49[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have I don't I cannot respond to everybody like if it gets too far, we like all right as initially I would.
- 34:57[SPEAKER_02]: I would be like, no, that's wrong.
- 34:59[SPEAKER_02]: No, this isn't a apology gift.
- 35:01[SPEAKER_02]: I, this car was being built in February of 2018.
- 35:03[SPEAKER_02]: We were speaking somewhere for the NBA all stars was like, Lamborghini got an SUV.
- 35:09[SPEAKER_02]: What, you know, we go over there and build it.
- 35:11[SPEAKER_02]: Don't even have enough money.
- 35:12[SPEAKER_02]: But book comes in and you like, boom, I'm looking at this from my wife, but people don't know the story.
- 35:18[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't care to tell them, you know, any more.
- 35:20[SPEAKER_02]: I used to want to correct everything.
- 35:23[SPEAKER_02]: taking a page out of Beyonce's book, think whatever you want.
- 35:27[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 35:27[SPEAKER_02]: As long as God knows, I know our children know that's what I care about.
- 35:32[SPEAKER_02]: And also the people you call to your congregation, you do owe them a certain level of transparency.
- 35:39[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what I love about my husband.
- 35:41[SPEAKER_02]: He'll tell you.
- 35:42[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
- 35:43[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what I love about me.
- 35:46[SPEAKER_02]: We not for everybody.
- 35:47[SPEAKER_02]: That's just it, but whoever we're for, we hope that you see God in what it is that we do, which is tell the truth, honor the Lord and then just be about his business and not worry about anything else.
- 36:00[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I think the hardest thing for me is I was going through so much in the last two or three years.
- 36:04[SPEAKER_04]: It's like when I will walk into places and I will just feel that energy and then I just have to learn.
- 36:10[SPEAKER_04]: Like I'm of no reputation.
- 36:11[SPEAKER_04]: Like I'm gonna keep my head up chin out, put my chest up and do whatever I had to do.
- 36:15[SPEAKER_04]: And it's just like, I'm just looking at everybody.
- 36:26[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just like, and then I just remember sitting in the car and I was crying.
- 36:29[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, God, this is very, very tough.
- 36:32[SPEAKER_04]: And it was a challenge to me to say, are you doing this for them?
- 36:35[SPEAKER_04]: Or are you doing this for me?
- 36:36[SPEAKER_04]: Because if you're doing it for me, this will come with.
- 36:39[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I don't need everybody to be in love with everything that you do.
- 36:42[SPEAKER_04]: I need people to see that you're human so that they can see the God that you run to.
- 36:47[SPEAKER_04]: And so now that I look at you, I'm just like, you could have said anything that you wanted about her, but the proof is in the pudding.
- 36:55[SPEAKER_04]: When I say you drop all this weight and go into like now you have this bulk confidence and the freedom that you have and I know that this version could never be this version without that.
- 37:05[SPEAKER_04]: So I wanted to kind of get into like, okay, what was the mindset?
- 37:07[SPEAKER_04]: How did you deal with this?
- 37:08[SPEAKER_04]: And all I keep hearing is a arrow that's pointing right back to Jesus.
- 37:12[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
- 37:13[SPEAKER_04]: And that's the and that's the biggest thing.
- 37:14[SPEAKER_04]: I do want to talk to you all just about friends.
- 37:17[SPEAKER_04]: and people that were in your circle.
- 37:19[SPEAKER_04]: And then you go through these very, very unique tough times.
- 37:22[SPEAKER_04]: Everybody's running in college because you're going to Lake Wood and can we get on the stage?
- 37:26[SPEAKER_04]: And then you go to Greenville.
- 37:28[SPEAKER_04]: Everybody want to come because you would run, Carpenter.
- 37:31[SPEAKER_04]: And then you go through these very unique times and it's like the phone stops ringing.
- 37:34[SPEAKER_04]: How does a wife support a man when you already know that he's living in a deficit of love because he always wanted it from his father?
- 37:42[SPEAKER_04]: How do you support a man who was so giving to everybody
- 37:47[SPEAKER_04]: to come to you and I've no I know you just spit try spirit by the spirit that we don't even like him why we bring it him but he still does this and then you have bad times yeah and then nobody calls what does those years look like how does a wife support a man who has to go through that?
- 38:02[SPEAKER_02]: It's really hard, you know, because I know the hearts that we have.
- 38:07[SPEAKER_02]: I think that was a connectivity point of for our marriage.
- 38:11[SPEAKER_02]: It was love of God, love of family, love of music and love of people.
- 38:18[SPEAKER_02]: So, um, any opportunity that he can give to anybody or just open a door and somebody rush writing and he'd love to see people win.
- 38:28[SPEAKER_02]: I think the hardest part for me, I want to speak to me personally, is the lack of, are you okay versus, you know, the screenshots that I know you passed around?
- 38:38[SPEAKER_02]: Or, oh my God, what's happening?
- 38:41[SPEAKER_02]: But oh my God, what's happening could call my phone.
- 38:43[SPEAKER_02]: Like, if you want to know, you can call me instead of everyone else.
- 38:48[SPEAKER_02]: So what about your friends?
- 38:49[SPEAKER_02]: I have people that I've known for years that I really didn't know for years.
- 38:56[SPEAKER_02]: And then I have people that I've known for the past couple of years, who I feel like our lifers, like I, if I could do it again, my wedding party might look a little different.
- 39:07[SPEAKER_02]: You understand what I'm saying?
- 39:08[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what I want to talk to women about, especially when when you are getting ready to be married, make sure you want to see those pictures 10 years from now.
- 39:16[SPEAKER_02]: Don't, don't.
- 39:18[SPEAKER_02]: don't marry and invite people for the relationship you have now like that longevity.
- 39:23[SPEAKER_02]: Make sure people are in their proper port holes in your life and do their proper spacing or heart.
- 39:29[SPEAKER_02]: For me, I never change.
- 39:32[SPEAKER_02]: I'm the same.
- 39:34[SPEAKER_02]: Like,
- 39:34[SPEAKER_02]: If you need a kidney and a match, I don't give it to you like that because obviously we don't need half the stuff we have we live I live I've had multiple X ames and that's what I know this is weird to kind of correlate I don't have tonsils I don't have adenoids I don't have an appendix I don't have my thyroid might not have a goblet and a little bit like
- 39:55[SPEAKER_02]: So first of all, I've got, you know, why do we have all this stuff that makes us sick if we could live without it?
- 40:01[SPEAKER_02]: So that's the question between me and God.
- 40:03[SPEAKER_02]: But then I look at in different seasons, whatever was making me sick had to go.
- 40:08[SPEAKER_02]: So I am supposed to grow for
- 40:12[SPEAKER_02]: So when a certain season shift, certain people can't go, I remember I think it was Tyler was saying and he might have said it publicly, but this is in a personal conversation.
- 40:22[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, the higher you go, there's not enough oxygen at the altitude of you're going for everybody to fly with you.
- 40:29[SPEAKER_02]: They either the whole plane on crash or you're gonna fly high with the ones that are supposed to be there.
- 40:34[SPEAKER_02]: So I have to realize that sometimes, guy has to shake what you want,
- 40:42[SPEAKER_02]: They've hurt you.
- 40:43[SPEAKER_02]: They've shown you who they are, but you you're so in love with them.
- 40:46[SPEAKER_02]: You keep loving and you keep and it's nothing wrong with keeping loving because we all need the grace that That God gives to each one of us.
- 40:52[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I feel like sometimes people they all use you until they can anymore and then when you decide to choose yourself.
- 41:00[SPEAKER_02]: They get offended.
- 41:00[SPEAKER_02]: What?
- 41:02[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you called me, and I can go back and I can, like, speak to every time that we've been there for you, but we can't get a moment and now you're over here whispering that's weird to me.
- 41:16[SPEAKER_02]: So absolutely, I would I would be a liar if I didn't say that that type of stuff hurts.
- 41:22[SPEAKER_02]: And, but.
- 41:23[SPEAKER_02]: When you think about Jesus, he was with people every day that couldn't see him and he kept them.
- 41:30[SPEAKER_02]: He kept wandering around, he knew was gonna do it, they were gonna do because they were necessary.
- 41:35[SPEAKER_02]: So when I think about friends, I think about who I am and I've had to learn not to let how they are change me.
- 41:43[SPEAKER_02]: The heart that God gave me, I cannot shift even with being bitter for whatever people feel like I've gone through.
- 41:51[SPEAKER_02]: I really haven't gone through what it looks like.
- 41:54[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe.
- 41:55[SPEAKER_02]: Because I'm here too.
- 41:57[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't gone through some stuff too.
- 41:59[SPEAKER_02]: You just don't get that part.
- 42:00[SPEAKER_02]: You understand?
- 42:01[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not proud of that.
- 42:03[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying it's any normal couple.
- 42:06[SPEAKER_02]: You don't know what goes on in everybody.
- 42:08[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't care what they're like, okay, ready, smile, come on, let's go.
- 42:10[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
- 42:11[SPEAKER_02]: You don't know.
- 42:12[SPEAKER_02]: You don't know what people do.
- 42:13[SPEAKER_02]: I can think of a couple right now, pretty prominent and we know that that's nice.
- 42:21[SPEAKER_02]: It's not that.
- 42:22[SPEAKER_02]: You know, but authentically now, I can say that I is that.
- 42:26[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, yeah, my god, you go ahead, talk about whatever you want to talk about, say what you want to say between us and God, we know what this is.
- 42:34[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm so excited about the fruit, the newness of freedom that you get to walk in by canceling the noise and then just kind of.
- 42:43[SPEAKER_02]: Take in the time to say God, you know, whoever's called to walk us out with us out in this season.
- 42:49[SPEAKER_02]: Bring them.
- 42:49[SPEAKER_02]: And then siphon and pull away who shouldn't be a who we don't have the capacity to let go of because of our love because you can know people for years upon years upon years and then you realize man.
- 43:02[SPEAKER_02]: I really didn't know you at all.
- 43:04[SPEAKER_02]: You weren't loyal to me.
- 43:05[SPEAKER_02]: You were loyal to the proximity that you got for being next to me or you were loyal to the opportunity that I was giving you, you were loyal to that.
- 43:18[SPEAKER_02]: But say for instance, when whatever goes away and maybe minimize and we don't have this much we're in a in a in a in a season of kind, condensing so that you can just God is bigger
- 43:32[SPEAKER_02]: That's a beautiful place to be because then you get to see who everybody is.
- 43:36[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, because as God brings it back or when he does, because he does, he doesn't have some flows.
- 43:41[SPEAKER_02]: You have it.
- 43:42[SPEAKER_02]: Then you don't.
- 43:43[SPEAKER_02]: You have it again.
- 43:44[SPEAKER_02]: And you don't.
- 43:44[SPEAKER_02]: It's exactly what he's saying.
- 43:45[SPEAKER_02]: So I know you heard from God.
- 43:47[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's exactly what he told me as a proposal.
- 43:50[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, sometimes we'll have everything, sometimes we won't have a thing.
- 43:54[SPEAKER_02]: And are you okay with that?
- 43:55[SPEAKER_02]: I had to check myself and
- 43:58[SPEAKER_02]: I am okay with that.
- 44:00[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 44:01[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, family, Willie, my junior here real quick.
- 44:03[SPEAKER_04]: Can you subscribe and comment to this channel?
- 44:05[SPEAKER_04]: Like right now, real quick.
- 44:06[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just going to pause and wait on you.
- 44:08[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you back to the show.
- 44:10[SPEAKER_02]: Babies, y'all not wearing Gucci today.
- 44:12[SPEAKER_02]: Now we don't wear talking because those clothes are cute.
- 44:14[SPEAKER_02]: They're my five to ten dollars.
- 44:16[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 44:16[SPEAKER_02]: But if I want to put that on my child, why are you talking about it?
- 44:21[SPEAKER_02]: Why isn't matter?
- 44:22[SPEAKER_02]: You know, those are those are things that you deal with and I had to just
- 44:27[SPEAKER_02]: Remember social media is beautiful if you steward it right steward it correctly.
- 44:35[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but some people are killing themselves because they can live up to that fate that what's on there.
- 44:41[SPEAKER_02]: That's fake.
- 44:54[SPEAKER_02]: Church culture is killing people.
- 44:56[SPEAKER_02]: People are running away from God at rates, beyond whatever, and I think that's the only thing that hurt me about kind of our situation.
- 45:04[SPEAKER_02]: I think if we could have presented it, it can, and we can do it, you know, if God says the same in a way that people see that you, you may have a calling on your life, but you also need the God that you're preaching about.
- 45:17[SPEAKER_02]: You know, sometimes you don't think you're worthy of the deliverance that God is offering to you, and you feel like, well, I did some crazy stuff.
- 45:24[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe this is why this has happened to me.
- 45:26[SPEAKER_02]: None of us.
- 45:28[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't deserve.
- 45:29[SPEAKER_02]: Well, none of us.
- 45:30[SPEAKER_02]: If we all got what we deserved, would we really have anything?
- 45:33[SPEAKER_02]: That's what that's what I think about all the time and I'm just like so whatever God has given you you take that and you take it and you say God I thank you even though I don't deserve it and I'm gonna do with this opportunity my best so that you get the glory If people like it cool if people don't like it cool, but knowing that you're doing it for him as to God be the glory then I think that's where you grow because we we had to learn that my man Well, where is everybody?
- 45:59[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah
- 46:00[SPEAKER_02]: and it's like, well, where is everybody as long as God is here, we're good.
- 46:06[SPEAKER_02]: When he leaves, you have a problem.
- 46:08[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 46:08[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 46:09[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I look now, and like how we do all this work, you start working now, like what happened?
- 46:15[SPEAKER_04]: Cause when I look, you know, cause I don't be stalking nobody pays, but it popped up and I was like, oh, she'll hold another person.
- 46:21[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 46:22[SPEAKER_04]: Did you just so for me, they see me because I worked out.
- 46:24[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, it was either Hennessy or the gym, not decided to gym and man or not.
- 46:29[SPEAKER_04]: But, um, that was in college for me.
- 46:31[SPEAKER_04]: Like, what would you really love that?
- 46:33[SPEAKER_04]: Like, what was what was what was the thought process to change the change of the change of the change of body?
- 46:38[SPEAKER_04]: Because I know you like state 48.
- 46:40[SPEAKER_02]: I like state 48.
- 46:41[SPEAKER_02]: I still do.
- 46:43[SPEAKER_02]: So, um, I became an ambassador for a company called Fuji hippie girls, um,
- 46:50[SPEAKER_02]: Ashley Antoinette and Tiffany.
- 46:52[SPEAKER_02]: So when I was at famue Tiffany and Alexis, they were black girls who had a shoe store.
- 46:58[SPEAKER_02]: It was called Bella Donna at the Governor Square Mall, right down the street from famue.
- 47:03[SPEAKER_02]: Black girls, while we're in college, having a shoe store was a thing.
- 47:07[SPEAKER_02]: So I reconnected with Tiffany later on, and I was like, girl, you're behind bougie hippie, whatever we start talking, I become an ambassador, it actually works.
- 47:14[SPEAKER_02]: So it's vegan, vegan,
- 47:18[SPEAKER_02]: gummies and supplements that help to curb your appetite and listen.
- 47:21[SPEAKER_02]: If you're going detox, it's a moment.
- 47:24[SPEAKER_02]: Don't have plans.
- 47:25[SPEAKER_02]: Don't go here.
- 47:26[SPEAKER_02]: I know, yeah, shout out to Bucy Hippie.
- 47:29[SPEAKER_02]: But that coupled with intermittent fasting is what helped me to really drop.
- 47:35[SPEAKER_02]: And I had a little health scare in January and they put me on some medicine that I actually have gained eight pounds since.
- 47:46[SPEAKER_02]: where I wanted to go to my target way.
- 47:47[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, ah, I'm getting off the medicine because I worked too hard for this.
- 47:51[SPEAKER_02]: It really was the intermittent fasting and the Bucy hippie because I just kind of took time for me.
- 47:57[SPEAKER_02]: You always give yourself away.
- 47:59[SPEAKER_02]: And that was what I found myself doing.
- 48:01[SPEAKER_02]: I was giving myself away.
- 48:03[SPEAKER_02]: Church, kids, marriage, whatever.
- 48:06[SPEAKER_02]: But again, that's what my marriage conference is about.
- 48:09[SPEAKER_02]: The sole level woman.
- 48:10[SPEAKER_02]: If you don't nourish your soul, you can't give
- 48:13[SPEAKER_02]: anything to anybody else with authenticity.
- 48:16[SPEAKER_02]: And that's in.
- 48:17[SPEAKER_02]: That's an April.
- 48:18[SPEAKER_02]: And that's in Greenville.
- 48:20[SPEAKER_02]: I can't find that act relentless soon to become love story church.
- 48:24[SPEAKER_02]: So by then it will be love story church.
- 48:26[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
- 48:27[SPEAKER_02]: So we're changing the name because now we do have a real love story.
- 48:30[SPEAKER_02]: Come on, we've had to be relentless for too long.
- 48:33[SPEAKER_02]: And the name was fitting.
- 48:34[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because we had to be relentless.
- 48:38[SPEAKER_02]: But now we have redemption.
- 48:39[SPEAKER_02]: We had to be relentless.
- 48:41[SPEAKER_02]: So we kind of redent less, because it kind of is like, you know, all of that.
- 48:45[SPEAKER_02]: So now we get to go into love story church, new vision, new everything, and just express and love.
- 48:53[SPEAKER_02]: And my first women's conference, which is April 18th through the 21st, Johnny's account.
- 48:57[SPEAKER_02]: Come on, Mike.
- 48:58[SPEAKER_02]: I can't tell women to nurse their souls if I'm not nursing mine.
- 49:02[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 49:02[SPEAKER_02]: I can't tell women to reconnect with who they are as women without the mother hat, without the wife hat, without the student hat, without the the daughter who's the care taker, without the all of the letters behind your name, or even in front, if you're waiting to be Mrs with an MRS, who are you without all of that?
- 49:20[SPEAKER_02]: and are you pleased with you before you put additives on there?
- 49:23[SPEAKER_02]: Because that's where we mess up.
- 49:24[SPEAKER_02]: If we don't deal with us as we actually are, you can start adding all of these degrees and all of these accolades and getting the leadership this and Greeks, whatever you can put all of that on.
- 49:37[SPEAKER_02]: and you are still you and it's going to manifest at the most inopportune time in your life as we how I know.
- 49:44[SPEAKER_02]: So you need to deal with you so that when God does bless you with what he wants to bring to you, you can handle it adequately and you can handle it with grace for God to get the glory and you don't have to go through stuff.
- 49:57[SPEAKER_02]: No, that's so real.
- 49:58[SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, as we wrap it up and we put a bow on it,
- 50:02[SPEAKER_04]: happened to what was that time like maybe you can remember when you know you have all these children got the children you have your husband you know you have this church you have life issues that are going on and then you say Nope, I'm gonna love me.
- 50:16[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like when did you put your foot down and say I'm gonna love me more.
- 50:20[SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna tell you.
- 50:21[SPEAKER_02]: Um, when When I decided that
- 50:28[SPEAKER_02]: God in my relationship with him was more important than my relationship with my husband is when things shifted for me.
- 50:35[SPEAKER_02]: Because you're fighting for something and you're fighting together for something, you're trying to figure out what's going on with that when God's trying to figure out what's going on with this.
- 50:43[SPEAKER_02]: So in my vertical relationship with God, I literally am sitting here like God, are you pleased with Aventur, the daughter?
- 50:52[SPEAKER_02]: Are you pleased with me?
- 50:54[SPEAKER_02]: What am I doing?
- 50:55[SPEAKER_02]: Have I enabled?
- 50:57[SPEAKER_02]: Have I done stuff that makes me worn out entire because you're not there?
- 51:02[SPEAKER_02]: You know, just because it's a good thing is necessarily a God thing.
- 51:06[SPEAKER_02]: And I had to literally sit down and be like, this doesn't feel good.
- 51:11[SPEAKER_02]: I'm always giving myself away and I'm tired and that's not the quality of life that I feel like God wants for me.
- 51:16[SPEAKER_02]: So I started to choose Aventure.
- 51:19[SPEAKER_02]: I am Aventure.
- 51:21[SPEAKER_02]: then gray.
- 51:22[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
- 51:23[SPEAKER_02]: Not before, you know, and it's okay to become one flesh.
- 51:27[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
- 51:27[SPEAKER_02]: You're becoming the entirety of the marriage until which time you made decide that that's not the route you want to go.
- 51:34[SPEAKER_02]: That was very real for us at a in a couple of points in our life because I'm like, dude, what's happening?
- 51:41[SPEAKER_02]: I love you.
- 51:42[SPEAKER_02]: I see you.
- 51:43[SPEAKER_02]: I know what's going on and I know
- 51:46[SPEAKER_02]: care what the world says or what the people think.
- 51:49[SPEAKER_02]: I know what I know and I really wish I could go there but I want him to have the opportunity but it will help so many people just navigate the authenticity of your real relationship with yourself.
- 52:04[SPEAKER_02]: If you don't know you, how are you going to get to grow with somebody else when they're trying to get to know you?
- 52:11[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 52:12[SPEAKER_02]: you're offering them a representative of who you think they want to see even in dates now of people that they like I tell people who ask me oh what do you think about this person what do you think about that said well what do you think about you first and then that's what and then you can go
- 52:27[SPEAKER_02]: this way because that that's where that's where we we we should have landed at the beginning.
- 52:34[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 52:34[SPEAKER_02]: But it's okay.
- 52:35[SPEAKER_02]: It happened when it needed to happen.
- 52:36[SPEAKER_02]: Guy wrote the story from beginning to end.
- 52:39[SPEAKER_02]: So he already knew where we would be.
- 52:41[SPEAKER_02]: He knew the detours we would take.
- 52:43[SPEAKER_02]: And I've had to give myself grace for the times where I didn't get it right, didn't respond right, didn't do right, all of that kind of stuff.
- 52:51[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm sure he's had to do the same.
- 52:52[SPEAKER_02]: But I think for me personally, I decided that the adventurer that I wanted to know the adventurer that God saw.
- 53:00[SPEAKER_02]: Not the one that I had made.
- 53:02[SPEAKER_02]: I love it because you don't realize God created us in his image.
- 53:08[SPEAKER_02]: We make ourselves other things, created and make our two different things.
- 53:12[SPEAKER_02]: So I want to create a death.
- 53:13[SPEAKER_02]: The one that God, you know, the one that God, I want to tap into her.
- 53:18[SPEAKER_02]: So that when I did that, I was like, yeah, I don't like a little extra football, like all of that extra stuff.
- 53:23[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, I can't say that my baby was just born.
- 53:25[SPEAKER_02]: She's about to be 11.
- 53:28[SPEAKER_02]: You're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you're not a baby, you
- 53:47[SPEAKER_04]: Because I have no idea why the lawyer was challenging me.
- 53:50[SPEAKER_04]: Now I get it totally.
- 53:51[SPEAKER_04]: Like I was like, I heard, he was like, yeah, I was like, well, I'm gonna just do what you say.
- 53:56[SPEAKER_04]: Like I was really obedient, not to make it spooky, but I actually prayed and I hear from all these spirits.
- 54:00[SPEAKER_04]: So I was like, why are you?
- 54:01[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, well, let's just do it.
- 54:03[SPEAKER_04]: And then of course I sing, but like, how do...
- 54:07[SPEAKER_04]: Are you are you challenged in the area with people now that they have to deal with this force because now it is powerful.
- 54:14[SPEAKER_04]: It is freedom.
- 54:15[SPEAKER_02]: It is I don't care what has this world is so much freedom in that because you go through the world what will people think and I have to keep it the forefront of my mind.
- 54:25[SPEAKER_02]: What is God please with what is God please because you listen people are the flavor of the day.
- 54:32[SPEAKER_02]: They're like your outfit today.
- 54:33[SPEAKER_02]: Where's something they don't like tomorrow?
- 54:34[SPEAKER_02]: They don't talk about you like a dog.
- 54:36[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 54:36[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
- 54:37[SPEAKER_02]: And I think for me, I had to get over whoever is called to my life and whoever's life, I'm called to, they're going to be the same.
- 54:46[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 54:47[SPEAKER_02]: Highs, lows, valleys, mountain tops, whatever.
- 54:50[SPEAKER_02]: Those people are going to be the same.
- 54:52[SPEAKER_02]: When he starts shifting people out that you don't have the ability or the capacity to shift down on your own,
- 54:59[SPEAKER_02]: The agency of God is so big and so vast that he can be like, listen, I'm doing this for you since you didn't have the ability to do it.
- 55:06[SPEAKER_02]: So whoever loves whatever this app is, that's cool.
- 55:12[SPEAKER_02]: And people would be like, oh girl, I see you.
- 55:14[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's great.
- 55:14[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, even recently, it's like, oh, she looked like she got you know what I have.
- 55:20[SPEAKER_02]: I gained about eight pounds back.
- 55:22[SPEAKER_02]: And since this is about to be on the mission, it's got like, oh, you're a plan.
- 55:26[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have to do something else.
- 55:28[SPEAKER_02]: I am enjoying getting back to the the weight that I was right before I had my son.
- 55:35[SPEAKER_02]: That's so good.
- 55:36[SPEAKER_02]: And that's where I was.
- 55:37[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
- 55:38[SPEAKER_04]: Listen, um, I didn't know exactly what we were going.
- 55:40[SPEAKER_04]: Of course, you know, I always study show myself a proof to make sure that I understand the guess.
- 55:44[SPEAKER_04]: I've known her for so long, but I've never had the opportunity to know her in this capacity.
- 55:48[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I remember one time I was sitting there looking at the internet.
- 55:52[SPEAKER_04]: I was going through so much.
- 55:53[SPEAKER_04]: To many of you all, you may not know I get a lot of new viewers because of the guest that we do, but I went, you know, you know, some of the public figure, my family's in the public eye.
- 56:01[SPEAKER_04]: And then I remember I had to make a strong decision for the voice, and you know, it was so difficult to know that the same people who were holding you up and happy for you when you were in the relationship to now be the same people who call you everything
- 56:21[SPEAKER_04]: camera you may think to yourself man I've been through through so much I've done so much people know this people know that I remember sitting in the floor contemplating suicide and I never ever ever in my life like I'm a very I'm a very very confident person before the first time in my life I wasn't somebody's hero being an adoptee always wanted to have a good name overworking to be everybody's hero life for the first time Jesus had literally allowed my
- 56:51[SPEAKER_04]: At this time, I'm like, oh, my God, everybody knows, but the truth is, everybody was really this, this many people.
- 56:58[SPEAKER_04]: And the people who knew and the people who were supposed to go were supposed to.
- 57:01[SPEAKER_04]: And so what I started to do, and I want to challenge you to do it, if you've ever been through anything, I want you to be able to, not only thank the people who stay, but I also want you to thank the people who left.
- 57:11[SPEAKER_04]: Because without them, you can't be this version.
- 57:13[SPEAKER_04]: I challenge everybody to say, listen here.
- 57:15[SPEAKER_06]: I don't have to be there.
- 57:16[SPEAKER_04]: I don't, I don't, I don't, I can never blame all the stuff that happened to me.
- 57:22[SPEAKER_04]: and give the blame to that.
- 57:23[SPEAKER_04]: If I don't, I got to give it both.
- 57:25[SPEAKER_04]: Like it has to have this beautiful thing.
- 57:27[SPEAKER_04]: Like if I'm saying thank you guys for this moment, I also have to thank the people who did me wrong and left and say it all type of evil things because I could never be this version of freedom that the Lord's allowed me to be in this moment.
- 57:39[SPEAKER_04]: So as you sit there and you listen to Ab, I want you to really pay attention to the fact that there's a new freedom that comes from different things that people have to go through.
- 57:48[SPEAKER_04]: And Ab, I'm just gonna tell you this,
- 57:50[SPEAKER_04]: I cannot wait to see what God continues to do in the area of women.
- 57:54[SPEAKER_04]: Teenage women is a special calling your life for young women who have been through so so much.
- 58:01[SPEAKER_04]: And I just think like I just keep saying like as you were speaking, I was like.
- 58:05[SPEAKER_04]: real women are really going to this is not church.
- 58:07[SPEAKER_04]: This is a new group of people who desire Jesus but they desire it this way.
- 58:14[SPEAKER_04]: There has to be a re-represent or re-representing of what God wants to do and I think like God is now posture at your heart to be that person who's unashamed, unafraid and I just thank God that you will share your story and your heart on this women's history month.
- 58:30[SPEAKER_04]: because you are a phenomenal woman.
- 58:33[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm so thankful that you would be so open free, hot, honest, open the transparent.
- 58:39[SPEAKER_04]: I honor you and I appreciate you.
- 58:41[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you so much.
- 58:42[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.
- 58:42[SPEAKER_04]: Bless me.
- 58:42[SPEAKER_04]: I love so much just then.
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- 59:25[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, it's long.
- 59:25[SPEAKER_04]: You see these legs.
- 59:26[SPEAKER_04]: Let us win.
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- 59:27[SPEAKER_04]: Minutes.
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