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MINI SCROLL: Kelley Heyer accused of "copying" Apple dance, Janelle Rohner GLP-1 drama + Delaney Rowe x BJ Novak? · Mini Scroll

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  Hi everyone, welcome to Mini Scroll, the daily Internet
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  culture podcast bringing you the biggest stories from social
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  media, the creator economy and the digital space.
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  Every Monday through Thursday. I'm your host, Lauren Meisner,
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  the founder of the youth digital media brand Centennial World.
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  Welcome back to Mini Scroll, everyone.
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  OK, reminder that the next two days there will be Mini Scroll.
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  I'm actually doing mini tech scrolls more for you guys
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  instead of Annabelle because I am going to be podcasting live
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  Sydney. So you guys will still get
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  couple of days of episodes and then I'm going to have a mini
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  scroll episode on Friday for you.
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  So the first word that I have for you guys is that TikTok
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  creator Kelly Haier has been accused of stealing the Apple
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  Dance from a smaller creator. So we recently reported that
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  Kelly, who is credited as the creator of the Charli XCX Apple
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  Dance, is suing Roblox for using her dance in an emote.
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  Now, another creator with the handle Studio .54 posted a video
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  claiming that Kelly copied her dance.
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  I don't know Studio 54's name. I couldn't find it anywhere and
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  I didn't want to go digging too much and then like reveal her
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  name and her feel like she was doxed or something.
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  Not that I think she'd come across mini scroll, but like
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  just in case. So I don't know what her name
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  is, but this is what the video said.
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  How it feels to watch a certain fruit dance clearly inspired by
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  the choreography and a viral tick tock you posted three days
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  earlier turn into a brand PR deals and even a lawsuit over
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  quote use of choreography without permission.
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  So yes, it's very clear that studio 54 decided to bring this
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  to the Internet to call Kelly out on this because she is suing
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  Roblox. The apple dance started in June
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  2024. So it's been quite a while.
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  It's been almost a year and Kelly has had so much success
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  off the back of this like genuinely so much virality, so
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  many brand deals. She was with Charli XCX during
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  her tour when she came to like her specific stop like she's had
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  a lot off the back of this. So it seems like the creator,
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  Studio 54, decided to call this out specifically because of the
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  lawsuit. When you watch Studio 54's
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  dance, it's not a full dance. She's like lip syncing to the
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  song and she's like kind of doing little hand gestures and
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  like arm gestures like some dancing.
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  But it's basically from like her chest up.
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  It's a very close up video. It's not like a full dance.
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  But the moves, a lot of them are very similar.
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  And the one that gets me, that makes me think, OK, I think that
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  this is true is the Apple heart breaking?
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  It's just the part where you put your hands above your head into
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  a heart and then you kind of break it apart, like the apple
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  breaking. So that is exactly the same.
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  Like this girl did that exact movement with her hands, and
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  then she does the drive thing and, like, drive.
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  Sure. OK.
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  Yeah. Like, we can all, like, gesture
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  like that for driving. But the apple, the apple, I feel
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  like that's the most. That's like the signature part
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  of the dance and it's also, in my opinion, like the most unique
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  move of that whole dance. So I feel like that's really
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  SUS. So then she shared some receipts
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  because people were like, how do we know you're telling the
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  truth? So she showed that Kelly's dance
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  was posted on June 14th and Studio 54 is it was posted on
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  June 11th. I would say it's quite divided.
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  I'm actually surprised more people are not like against
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  Kelly in this because she is not well liked on the Internet.
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  They find her really annoying. They don't love like the family
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  background she comes from. A lot of people call her like a
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  colonizer because of some of the business that her family does in
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  Hawaii. People also call her like a
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  neppo baby. Like I don't really know the
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  full back story on Kelly Hare, but I know that she is not well
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  liked. So yeah, I'm actually more I'm
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  surprised more people are not on Studio 54's side.
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  But I think because some of the moves are quite generic.
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  I don't know, the fact that she did that Apple move at the exact
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  part that Kelly does the Apple move, I don't know.
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  I think it's sauce. I think it's sauce.
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  I do think there was some heavy inspiration taken there.
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  And that is kind of the reality of TikTok.
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  And that's kind of like the point of TikTok.
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  It's literally a platform that was built off of the concept of
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  like, sharing creative ideas and dances and songs and like
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  remixing it yourself and like making it your own with like,
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  stitches and duets. Like if you think about the
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  features that first launched TikTok, that is kind of like the
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  nature of the platform. But yeah, very interesting.
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  Let me know what you guys think. OK, the next story that I have
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  for you guys is that Wellness influencer Janelle Rohner admits
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  to failing to disclose that she was using GLP One medication
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  while selling lifestyle programs to her followers.
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  So Janelle is a fitness and Wellness influencer with over 5
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  million followers. She got really popular from her
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  What I Eat in A Day videos and videos where she tracks and meal
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  preps for her macros. Last week, Janelle shocked her
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  followers when she revealed on YouTube that she's been using
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  GLP One medication to help with her weight loss journey for the
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  past year. In the video, she insisted it's
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  not magic that she still had to show up and eat well and work
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  out to achieve these weight loss goals.
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  However, for this duration, Janelle was also selling a $200
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  weight loss course to her followers without disclosing
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  that she was also using this medication to help in her
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  personal weight loss, 1 commenter wrote.
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  It's that she's selling a $200 course to people to help them
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  lose weight when counting macros wasn't even enough for her to
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  lose all of the weight she wanted to.
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  Another wrote You're taking people's money, misleading them,
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  and not being honest with yourself either.
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  So the criticism is not that she was taking a GLP one, it's that
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  she fully didn't disclose it despite selling these very
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  expensive courses to her followers.
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  It is deceptive and I think it completely validates the
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  negative feelings that people have towards influencers with
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  them, like being grifters and liars and kind of all of these
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  perceptions that we have of them.
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  Like This is why people have these perceptions.
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  So a lot of her followers are calling this fraud.
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  I don't really know what constitutes as like legally
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  fraud or not, but in my opinion, this is absolutely deceptive
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  marketing practices. This reminds me on a very
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  different scale, but it reminds me of Lashgate with Michaela
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  Noguera when she seemingly put on like false lashes to promote
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  a L'Oreal mascara without disclosing that she was wearing
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  false lashes. And the discussion there was
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  like, yeah, sometimes in mascara commercials, you will have a
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  model or the actor, whoever's in the commercial, like wearing
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  false lashes, but they'll always have a disclaimer at the bottom.
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  It's very small and you're probably not going to read it,
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  but there's always a disclaimer there that says like, these
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  lashes have been enhanced either in post or maybe like with false
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  lashes or like, whatever. But with influencers, there's
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  not those same, like, regulations when it comes to
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  things like this. I mean, there's like they're
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  trying to implement things like that, but you know, it's not
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  like standard standardized across the board quite yet.
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  The difference, however, is that 1A L'Oreal mascara is like
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  $7.00, not $200.00. And two, selling any type of
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  lifestyle related program when you're promising to help people
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  like change their lives and you're impacting what they're
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  putting in their body, that is so much more serious than just
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  selling a product that, you know, washes off at the end of
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  the day. There needs to be a lot more
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  regulation around who can sell these programs and these plans.
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  And in like the Wellness space, the fitness space, it is so
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  filled with grifs. And yeah, this just must be so
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  disappointing to her followers. I can't even imagine if I was
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  bought in and I was following her advice.
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  And I know, I know the flip side to these arguments whenever we
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  talk about an influencer deceiving their followers is
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  like, well, you shouldn't go to influencers for these things,
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  like unless they are qualified in this area, which I
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  understand. But we talked about how these
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  like Wellness, lifestyle fitness influencers do make these things
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  a lot more accessible. Like prior to social media, if
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  you wanted to like learn how to work out, there was really no
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  way to do it unless somebody taught you or you got like a
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  personal trainer or you went to the gym and just like watched
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  people, maybe you did a class or something.
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  But you know, now it's like before I started weightlifting
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  years ago, you know, that really intimidated me.
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  So I spent weeks and weeks and weeks like knowing I was going
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  to start weightlifting. And so I would spend weeks
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  finding fitness influencers where I I liked their programs,
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  I liked their vibe, I would follow them.
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  And then I would watch like hours of YouTube on how to do
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  like a barbell SWAT, you know, and like I taught myself through
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  YouTube and through Instagram. And so yes, you can absolutely
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  say that like, we as consumers need to be more diligent and we
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  need to have more like literacy around who we're following and
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  what we're following them for and their qualifications and all
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  of that. But one of the best parts about
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  influencer culture is how it has democratized so many experiences
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  for people and so many industries.
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  So Janelle has responded to the backlash.
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  And she says that she's going to be more transparent from now on.
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  And, you know, she sees all the criticism and stuff.
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  But, yeah, I just, I feel really bad for her followers,
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  especially if they spent $200 on her program.
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  OK. The last word that I have for
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  you guys is so random, but Delaney Roe is apparently dating
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  BJ Novak. This is like the wildest
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  crossover ever, but TikTok star Delaney Roe is reportedly dating
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  actor BJ Novak. So Delaney is super famous for
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  her skits where she pretends to be like highly unrealistic
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  female characters in movies like the quote wise beyond her years
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  daughter taking care of her father after her mother dies, or
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  the quote quirky hot mess female lead of a ROM com.
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  You guys know who Delaney is like she was one of the OG skit
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  Tik tokers to like really pop off in that niche.
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  So now several outlets are reporting that she is dating BJ
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  Novak and sources, quote UN quote have confirmed it to
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  People magazine. So I'm going to believe it.
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  As we know BJ Novak is probably questionable, but like probably
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  we think the baby daddy to Mindy Kaling's children.
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  Is that confirmed? Something in my heart of hearts
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  tells me that was recently confirmed in like a book or
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  something. But they were like besties and
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  everyone thought that they were together for a long time and
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  that he was probably the father of her children.
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  But I guess now he's dating Delaney Rowe.
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  So Delaney and BJ were first spotted together back in
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  December and actually d'amois reported on it.
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  But like it didn't really get picked up.
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  And today people are losing their minds.
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  But when I was Googling it, I could find like sparse but like
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  articles and reports from December that they were
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  together. But maybe it was just like
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  speculation. Now it's been like confirmed
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  this is crazy. I don't know like this pairing
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  to me like I don't know it's just so random happy for them I
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  guess anyways guys that's it for mini scroll today.
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  And it's just like, gonna be a lot like, I am so looking
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  forward to like, 6:00 PM on Thursday night.
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  But I'm trying not to wish my life away.
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  OK? I love you guys and I will talk
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  to you tomorrow. Bye.