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Incumbent State Senator Bill Demora Part 2 · Chuck Douglas

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  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: The things off the air could be their own series.
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  Speaker 2: Chuck Douglas of the Power Hour, 610 WTV, and my guest,
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  Speaker 2: Bill DeMora, the Ohio senator from District 25, the incumbent,
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  Speaker 2: looking for your vote either in November. I prefer November.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not an early voter guy. I know it's all
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  Speaker 2: the rage. I like going to the polls. I like
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  Speaker 2: that feeling of fellowship with my citizens in my ward.
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  Speaker 2: casting our votes, participating in the democratic process. I like
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  Speaker 2: voting on polling day. I'd even entertain the idea of
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  Speaker 2: making it a holiday or making it a 24 hour
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  Speaker 2: thing from midnight to midnight or something. So no matter
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  Speaker 2: what shift you were, you could still go vote. I just,
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  Speaker 2: the early voting, it's just, it's never really thrilled me.
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  Speaker 2: And especially considering quite frankly, the nature of human beings today.
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  Speaker 2: Because you think you want somebody elected. I like this guy.
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  Speaker 2: I like this woman. And then two days before election day,
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  Speaker 2: you find out that there's some convicted felon that changed
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  Speaker 2: their name and they burned babies in their basement. But
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  Speaker 2: you've already voted for him. You can't change that vote.
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  Speaker 2: And that not being able to– that's always bugged me.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm not– do you get– Do you get more
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  Speaker 2: excited for Election Day itself or, I mean, is it
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  Speaker 2: a whole month-long process for you?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I vote on Election Day.
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  Speaker 3: That's because I'm old school and I like to go
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  Speaker 3: to my polling places and see how many people voted.
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  Speaker 3: I drive around my district and find that out because
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  Speaker 3: I like voting on Election Day because I'm old school. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: in college, I voted absentee because I wasn't going to
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  Speaker 3: miss a whole day of classes.
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  Speaker 1: I like early voting.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if you go to the Franklin County Early
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  Speaker 3: Vote Center, there are thousands of people that vote there
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  Speaker 3: every day and it's packed. And so the people are
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  Speaker 3: exercising their rights. As you said, if it's not a holiday,
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  Speaker 3: then some people, you know, on a Tuesday in the fall,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's not ideal. I mean, European countries vote
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  Speaker 3: on Sundays in the spring and summer when the weather
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  Speaker 3: is good. So, I mean, I'd rather vote on a
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  Speaker 3: day like today and stand outside for 25 or 30
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  Speaker 3: minutes than vote in November where it could be snowing,
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  Speaker 3: and it has snowed on Election Day before, or rainy
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  Speaker 3: or cold. So, I mean, again— Listen, the Republicans, in
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  Speaker 3: my mind, have done enough to hurt voting and prevent
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  Speaker 3: voting and all the stuff they have to– because they
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  Speaker 3: don't want people to vote. So in my mind– the
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  Speaker 3: more opportunities people have to vote.
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  Speaker 1: The better. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get into that. What, what have they done? Do
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  Speaker 2: you have a problem showing ID to vote?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Why?
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  Speaker 3: Because fraud didn't occur when we didn't have to show
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  Speaker 3: ID to vote. I mean, as I told somebody last
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  Speaker 3: night at the candidates forum, I have a better chance
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  Speaker 3: of getting struck by lightning twice, leaving this building than
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  Speaker 3: the odds of someone committing voter fraud to actually vote
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  Speaker 3: actually counts. That's how bad it, that's how little voter
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  Speaker 3: fraud has occurred. That's how little, I mean, we have
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  Speaker 3: a systems in place to catch all that stuff. Until
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  Speaker 3: five years ago, you could show a utility bill. You
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  Speaker 3: could show your rental contract to go vote, and there
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  Speaker 3: was no fraud. Fraud only happens because the orange-haired menace
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  Speaker 3: in the White House said it was fraud and disputes
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  Speaker 3: the outcome of the 2020 election. That's why there's fraud.
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  Speaker 3: There has not been fraud before. There's not fraud now.
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  Speaker 3: It's a myth that the right wing tries to portray
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  Speaker 3: on people to get them scared, and that's all it is.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. If I come to the Statehouse to see you
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  Speaker 2: in your office, do I need to show I.D.? No,
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  Speaker 2: I can just, I can just walk in the state house,
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  Speaker 2: but you.
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  Speaker 3: Don't have to show an ID. You just walk through.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, you don't have to show an ID to
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  Speaker 1: come to state house. Really?
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  Speaker 2: Anybody can just walk in off the street. Really?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you have to go through a metal detector.
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  Speaker 2: That would scare me in your position.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't scare me crazy today.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it might be crazy, but they can't get weapons
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  Speaker 3: in because they have to, they have to go through
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  Speaker 3: a metal detector and, and there's a police officer, highway
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  Speaker 3: patrol officer there and a security guard there. Um, And
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  Speaker 3: there are precautions if something– if someone comes through there
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  Speaker 3: and they don't have a weapon but they are a
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  Speaker 3: little bit– something they want to cause harm and there's
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  Speaker 3: security measures in place. But no, I don't feel at
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  Speaker 3: all– and you do not have to show ID to
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  Speaker 3: come into the statehouse at all.
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe that. I had to present ID to
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  Speaker 2: go to a Columbus City Council meeting. I can't believe
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  Speaker 2: I can get into the statehouse without showing ID.
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  Speaker 1: You can. That's– wow.
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  Speaker 2: That is very surprising. And just as you say, well,
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  Speaker 2: there was no fraud until Donald Trump claimed fraud– There
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  Speaker 2: was no problem getting IDs until suddenly the Democrats decided
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  Speaker 2: we can't get IDs. I actually, you know, I know
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  Speaker 2: I got light skin, but my birth certificate says Negro.
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  Speaker 2: As a black American, I get a little resentful hearing
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  Speaker 2: all the stuff I can't do. Well, you know, minorities
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  Speaker 2: can't get IDs.
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  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 2: Why can't I get an ID or a driver's license?
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  Speaker 2: I'm perfectly capable of doing that. And it is almost
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  Speaker 2: offensive to hear people say, we can't get IDs. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you can.
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  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 2: You're poor. You're on government assistance. You had to show
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  Speaker 2: IDs to get it. You couldn't just walk in there
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  Speaker 2: and get food stamps without identifying yourself.
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  Speaker 1: There's the difference.
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  Speaker 3: The amendment is being voted on on November 3rd, where
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  Speaker 3: the laws say you only can use four forms of ID. Now,
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  Speaker 3: if Ohio State students could use their Buck ID that
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  Speaker 3: has their photo on it, It'd be a different matter.
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  Speaker 1: And the polling, everybody says.
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  Speaker 3: That 88% of Americans think they have a voter ID.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's not the way they ask the question.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, if Ohio State students, if any college student could
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  Speaker 3: show their college ID that has their picture on it
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  Speaker 3: and vote, that'd be a different matter.
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  Speaker 1: But you can't. And a lot of college students today
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  Speaker 1: don't have a driver's license.
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  Speaker 3: They don't have state IDs because they don't drive as
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  Speaker 3: early as they used to because... Of scooters and Uber
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  Speaker 3: and all these other things. A lot of students around
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  Speaker 3: the state don't have a state ID that lets them
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  Speaker 3: to vote. So they can't vote. And they're not going
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  Speaker 3: to take a bus 25 minutes to the closest BMV
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  Speaker 3: to get a state ID.
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  Speaker 2: All those oppressive student loans we hear about. Didn't they
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  Speaker 2: have to present IDs to a lender to get those loans?
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  Speaker 1: No. You fill out forms. You don't show an ID
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  Speaker 1: when you fill out bank forms.
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  Speaker 3: And to get scholarships and stuff. I don't ever show
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  Speaker 3: an ID to get scholarships. any of that stuff. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: stuff has changed, but it's been a while since I've.
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  Speaker 1: Been in college. I mean, 40 years.
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  Speaker 3: But again, if you could show your student ID, your
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  Speaker 3: Buck ID, that gets you into all the restaurants around campus,
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  Speaker 3: that gets you into all the sporting events, all that
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  Speaker 3: sort of stuff, that has your picture on it and
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  Speaker 3: has your name on it. If that counted to be
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  Speaker 3: a different, we have a different conversation, but those don't count.
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  Speaker 3: You have to have a, Ohio driver's license, Ohio government ID, passport,
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  Speaker 3: and only about one-third of Ohioans have a passport, or
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  Speaker 3: a federally issued military ID. Even the state-issued military IDs
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  Speaker 3: don't work anymore.
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  Speaker 1: So, again.
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  Speaker 3: They're narrowing the IDs you can use. Again, if you
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  Speaker 3: want to see a photo, if you had any photo ID,
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  Speaker 3: it would be a different talk I'd be having with
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  Speaker 3: you now.
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  Speaker 1: But it's not.
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  Speaker 3: It's limiting to those four forms of ID that, again,
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  Speaker 3: some people just don't have. I mean, a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people don't drive. I mean, some people can't afford a car.
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  Speaker 3: They don't have a driver's license.
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  Speaker 2: I would almost be willing to consider– I mean, the
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  Speaker 2: Board of Regents has to credit the colleges and universities
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  Speaker 2: around the state. I'd almost be willing to have that
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  Speaker 2: conversation about a picture collegiate ID working– But see, again,
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to be reasonable and not enough people are
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  Speaker 2: reasonable because there will still be people on the other
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  Speaker 2: side of the fence going, you shouldn't have to show ID.
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  Speaker 2: Is it that you shouldn't have to show ID or
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  Speaker 2: it's inconvenient to get ID? I'm not sure what the
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  Speaker 2: argument there is. And I tell people all the time,
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  Speaker 2: my next door neighbor, every election, asked me for my ID.
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  Speaker 2: She was the poll worker. She lived next door to me,
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  Speaker 2: but I had to show her my driver's license, and
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  Speaker 2: I never had a problem with it. It just seems normal.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't in re-election. It was only in the
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  Speaker 1: last five years. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's every time I go to vote
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  Speaker 2: I've been asked for an ID.
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  Speaker 3: Now, but before you didn't have to. You could show
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  Speaker 3: a driver. You could show your utility bill. You could
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  Speaker 3: show your rental contract. You didn't have to show a
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  Speaker 3: picture ID until five years ago. Maybe it was six,
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  Speaker 3: but I mean, it's in the very not too distant past.
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  Speaker 3: You'd have to show a photo ID to vote.
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  Speaker 2: I said going into the bottom of the hour break
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  Speaker 2: there where you said that you are most things. Where's
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  Speaker 2: some common ground for people that are out there going, oh, well,
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  Speaker 2: this guy doesn't sound half bad. He doesn't sound like
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  Speaker 2: a crazy Bernie Sanders guy. What's some common ground you.
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  Speaker 3: Have with Senator Republicans? Honestly, 90% of the bills we
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  Speaker 3: pass are unanimous bills in the Senate. Both parties vote
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  Speaker 3: on these things.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of the.
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  Speaker 3: Bills that I co-sponsor have as many Republican sponsors as
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  Speaker 3: Democrat sponsors. Again, my banning child marriage bill is sponsored
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  Speaker 3: by Republicans. My making the Buckeye estate candy bill is
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  Speaker 3: sponsored by as many Republicans as Democrats. But most people
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  Speaker 3: don't realize they only read about the bills that we
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  Speaker 3: disagree on the, the, the cultural issues, the, the controversial stuff,
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  Speaker 3: because that's what they want to read. But again, most
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  Speaker 3: of the 90% of the bills we vote on are
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  Speaker 3: unanimous bills. Maybe sometimes one person doesn't vote for it
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  Speaker 3: for one reason or another, but most of the bills
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  Speaker 3: we vote on are bipartisan bills that we think are
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  Speaker 3: going to help the citizens of Ohio. And some of
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  Speaker 3: them in pretty good, pretty big bills, um, important bills, uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the transportation budget, everybody voted for that.
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  Speaker 1: Um, all kinds of things that we vote for that, um, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, of the bills, the last day of session we
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  Speaker 3: had before today was.
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  Speaker 1: I think June 10th or 16th. I forget the exact date,
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  Speaker 1: but we probably voted on 31 bills. I probably voted
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  Speaker 1: no one three or four of those.
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  Speaker 3: The other 26 or 27 were unanimous bills that we
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  Speaker 3: all voted for. So, um, of course the only thing
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  Speaker 3: that got printed that night was the bad bills about
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  Speaker 3: sub metering, about putting mandating that, um, Everybody had to
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  Speaker 3: put a copy of their driver's license when they voted absentee.
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  Speaker 1: Now, can you imagine that, though? I mean, think of this.
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  Speaker 3: You tell your senior citizen parents and grandparents, never put
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  Speaker 3: a copy of your ID in the mail so no
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  Speaker 3: one can steal.
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  Speaker 1: Your ID.
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  Speaker 3: But the Republican legislature was going to pass a bill
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  Speaker 3: until the governor vetoed it to mandate you put a
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  Speaker 3: copy of your driver's license or government ID into the mail.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that was going to be people were going
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  Speaker 3: to steal ballots to steal IDs.
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  Speaker 2: But now the state of Ohio actually puts my real
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  Speaker 2: driver's license in the mail. Instead of allowing me to
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  Speaker 2: go in and renew my license and get my license,
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  Speaker 2: they mail it to me, which is the dumbest damn
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  Speaker 2: thing I've ever heard of.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you'd be able to get there, get your
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  Speaker 3: life license. That's why you waited 25 minutes so they
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  Speaker 3: could laminate it and hand it to you.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm told it's because of people breaking into registrars
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  Speaker 2: and stealing and making fake IDs. So they now no
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  Speaker 2: longer have the blanks available there. And they come from
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  Speaker 2: the Department of Motor Vehicles Central, which I'm sorry you
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  Speaker 2: got broken into, but get a better security set up.
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  Speaker 2: This is ridiculous. It's an inconvenience.
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  Speaker 1: And the U.S.
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  Speaker 2: Mail, quite frankly, is not a safe way to send
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  Speaker 2: something like that.
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  Speaker 1: I have no faith in U.S.
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  Speaker 2: Mail.
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  Speaker 3: I was waiting on a reimbursement check that was mailed
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  Speaker 3: out the end of August, beginning of September.
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  Speaker 1: I got it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. The end of July, beginning of August. I
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  Speaker 3: didn't get it until a week ago. It took six
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  Speaker 3: weeks to mail something from the state house to my
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  Speaker 3: house in the short north. I mean, they just got lost.
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  Speaker 3: I have no faith in the mail whatsoever. I'm telling people,
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  Speaker 3: if you get your ballot absentee, go drop it off
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  Speaker 3: at a ballot box. I don't trust the mail to
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  Speaker 3: actually deliver your ballot after you fill it out.
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  Speaker 2: All right. As we're coming into the last five minutes here,
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  Speaker 2: I want to basically clear a path for you. Because
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  Speaker 2: in these opportunities to interview and to ask questions, I
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  Speaker 2: always feel as if people who have something on the line,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's a vote or an initiative of some sort,
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  Speaker 2: that I might have missed something. And I always like
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  Speaker 2: to give you a couple of minutes uninterrupted where you
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  Speaker 2: just get to make your case. Say, I'm Bill DeMora,
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  Speaker 2: and here's why I should get your vote.
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  Speaker 1: Well, listen, I'm honest as a day in and along.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how to spin things.
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  Speaker 3: I tell you the same thing I would tell Somebody
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  Speaker 3: would come to my office, the same thing I would
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  Speaker 3: tell any other reporter, the same thing I would tell
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  Speaker 3: any constituent. I don't vary my message depending on who
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  Speaker 3: I talk to. And that's rare amongst politicians. And I
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  Speaker 3: admit it's rare because I'm just a plain-spoken middle-class kid
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  Speaker 3: that grew up with two teachers as parents. And my
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  Speaker 3: word is my bond. And today that doesn't seem to
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  Speaker 3: matter anymore to a lot of people. But, again, I
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  Speaker 3: think I'm a very hard worker. I mean, I'm in
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  Speaker 3: the office constantly. Most days, because I literally live a
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  Speaker 3: half mile from the statehouse. I go out to the community.
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  Speaker 3: I've been to every of my area commissions. I'm the
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  Speaker 3: first legislator to ever show up at the Valley View City.
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  Speaker 1: Council, Valley View Village Council meeting. I've been there more
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  Speaker 1: than once.
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  Speaker 3: I'm the first legislator to show up to the Minerva
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  Speaker 3: Park Village Council meeting.
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  Speaker 1: I've done that more than once.
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  Speaker 3: I'm the first person to show up to most of
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  Speaker 3: these area commissions because I don't want to show up
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  Speaker 3: the places that just my voters, I want to be
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  Speaker 3: out in the community. I go to as many places
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  Speaker 3: I can. I went to four different things on national
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  Speaker 3: light out to talk to my voters.
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  Speaker 1: I work for my voters. I try to represent my voters.
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  Speaker 3: I'm on campus all the time talking to college students
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  Speaker 3: because I represent every one of them in the Senate.
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  Speaker 3: I represent Ohio State's campus. I go to where my
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  Speaker 3: people are, and I have the most open-door policy in
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  Speaker 3: the Statehouse. As you commented earlier, if someone writes me
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  Speaker 3: an email or calls my office, they get response from
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  Speaker 3: my office, whether it's email, phone call, or a callback
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  Speaker 3: from me, or I show up at their event.
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  Speaker 1: That's the kind of person I am. I think I
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  Speaker 1: represent my district as well as anybody could. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: asking for their vote for the next four years.
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  Speaker 2: Anything that you didn't get accomplished in this first term
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  Speaker 2: or maybe you did and you thought I should have
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  Speaker 2: done better, I need to change it. Is there anything
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  Speaker 2: that's on your mind if you're reelected you want to
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  Speaker 2: make sure is at the top of your list?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to find an answer to fair school
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  Speaker 3: funding for public schools because both my parents were public
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  Speaker 3: school teachers. And we haven't made up what the Supreme
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  Speaker 3: Court ruled us 20 years ago.
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  Speaker 1: We have not fully funded public schools.
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  Speaker 3: And the reason we have high property taxes is because
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  Speaker 3: we're not fully funding public schools. So we have to
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  Speaker 3: go to the ballot and ask for levies to raise
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  Speaker 3: your property taxes. If the state fully funded it like
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  Speaker 3: they used to when I was in my school in
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  Speaker 3: the 70s and 80s, we wouldn't have these high property taxes.
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  Speaker 3: It all is based on not fully funding public schools.
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  Speaker 3: If we fully funded them... A lot of the ills
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  Speaker 3: that people are feeling, the crunch they're feeling with property
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  Speaker 3: taxes and stuff would go away.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if we weren't sold a bill of goods in
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  Speaker 2: the first place with the lottery, the money is there.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is it was a previous legislature, nothing to
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  Speaker 2: do with this man. But we were told, well, give
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  Speaker 2: us the lottery and that'll fund our schools. What they
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  Speaker 2: didn't tell you is any money brought in by the
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  Speaker 2: lottery was then going to be removed and returned to
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  Speaker 2: the general fund at the legislature level to be spent
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  Speaker 2: on something else. So if the lottery brings in $ 10 million,
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: that's great. But that's not $ 10 million on top of
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: the already taxpayer-funded funding. That's $ 10 million. Then we're going
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: to take that $ 10 million out that we had allocated
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: from tax dollars. That was a sneaky thing to do
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: to the people of Ohio.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: I was a child, I think, when that passed in
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: the 70s.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was too. But I have been a political
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: monster since I was a little kid. Well, I was
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: never little. I was young.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: So is I. I agree.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: Bill DeMora, he is the incumbent Democrat, Senate District 25.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: I truly, truly do appreciate you coming in here and
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: giving us your time tonight.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: Thank you for having me.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: Website, anything, where can.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: People see you? DeMoraForOhio.com.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: D-E-M-O-R-A for Ohio dot com. Thank you, sir.