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Episode One Hundred Eighty: Stolen Valor · The Death Of Journalism

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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode number one hundred and eighty of the
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Speaker 1: Death of Journalism podcast.
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Speaker 2: My name is John Zickler. I'm your host on today's.
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Speaker 1: Show, the latest on the news media's best efforts to
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Speaker 1: not properly vet Tim Waltz, just like they never vetted
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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. Joe Biden finally does a bizarre post dropout interview,
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Speaker 1: and an extensive interview with Trump Political Action Committee political
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Speaker 1: analyst and my good friend Steve Cortes. We begin this
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Speaker 1: episode of the podcast with a timing disclaimer. This episode
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Speaker 1: is being taped, as was the Steve Cortes interview, several
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Speaker 1: days before we actually release it. For instance, the Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump press conference from mar A Lago is scheduled for
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Speaker 1: later on the day in which I am taping this
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Speaker 1: portion of the podcast, which is the morning of August
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Speaker 1: the eighth, So I will not have any analysis of
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Speaker 1: whatever happens in that Trump press conference, and so keep
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Speaker 1: in mind that timing as you listen to this episode.
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Speaker 1: We've tried our best to try to make it as
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Speaker 1: relevant as possible given the rapid fire news cycle that
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Speaker 1: we've been in.
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Speaker 2: I think this is all still.
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Speaker 1: Going to be relevant by the time you hear it,
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Speaker 1: But in this day and age, who knows. Right now,
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Speaker 1: the biggest issue politically is still the selection of Tim
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Speaker 1: Walls and the evaluation of his vice presidential candidacy, specifically
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Speaker 1: with regard to his military record. Now, the news media
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Speaker 1: has been trying their best to either avoid this subject
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Speaker 1: or to manipulate it. If they can't avoid it, they
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Speaker 1: love to try to manipulate it.
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Speaker 2: They try to change what.
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Speaker 1: The issue is about to get it to a position
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Speaker 1: to where they can at least muddy the water.
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Speaker 2: That's what they do for a Democratic candidate.
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Speaker 1: With a Republican candidate, there's never this issue of ambiguity.
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Speaker 1: And you know, this is a tactic that the left
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Speaker 1: media uses all the time. Whenever there's a series of
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Speaker 1: controversies about someone, they picked the one that is most
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Speaker 1: easily manipulated, where they can most easily muddy the water,
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Speaker 1: and then they pretend that that's the issue, and then.
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Speaker 2: They say, well, this is not that big of a deal.
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Speaker 1: And that's part of what they've been doing with Tim
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Speaker 1: Waltz and his military record, which has numerous aspects to
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Speaker 1: it that.
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Speaker 2: Used to be troubling.
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Speaker 1: Now I say all the time that we're living in
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Speaker 1: a post truth world, partially because we're living in a
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Speaker 1: post Trump world, and you have to acknowledge that prior
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Speaker 1: to Donald Trump being not just the Republican presidential nominee
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Speaker 1: but the president of the United States, this is an
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Speaker 1: issue on which Republicans would have a lot better footing,
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Speaker 1: a lot more credibility, but they don't because their standard
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Speaker 1: bearer for the last three election cycles did not serve
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Speaker 1: in the military and got the ferments for bonez burs.
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Speaker 1: So it's not exactly an issue where Republicans have a
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Speaker 1: lot of credibility. Unfortunately, now Jade Vance did serve, but
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump did not. So that's important context for all
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Speaker 1: of this, and it's one of the many, many, many
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Speaker 1: reasons that the Donald Trump era has been, in my view,
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Speaker 1: a net negative and potentially a huge net negative for
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Speaker 1: the Republican Party because it has taken away so many
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Speaker 1: issues and so many rhetorical weapons that used to exist
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Speaker 1: on the conservative of the Republican side, not to mention
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Speaker 1: a million other things that.
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Speaker 2: We've discussed previously on this podcast.
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Speaker 1: So when it comes to Tim Walls, I want to
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Speaker 1: play two clips from CNN that involved the same reporter,
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Speaker 1: Tom Form a guy who is known for doing fact
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Speaker 1: checks on CNN. A lot of them are sanctimonious, They're
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Speaker 1: all very liberally biased, but I think he at least
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Speaker 1: tries to do decent work. And these are from two
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Speaker 1: different appearances that Tom Foreman made on CNN to talk
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Speaker 1: about Tim Waltz and his military record and this controversy
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Speaker 1: surrounding numerous aspects of what he has claimed he did
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Speaker 1: in the military as opposed to what he actually did. Now,
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Speaker 1: this first clip does not have Jake Tapper in it,
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Speaker 1: and I think that this is the first of the
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Speaker 1: two clips in order of which they actually happen. I
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Speaker 1: think this is the first one, the best I can tell,
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Speaker 1: and then I'm going to play a second one that
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Speaker 1: appears to happen later when Jake Tapper is the host
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Speaker 1: with Tom Foreman.
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Speaker 2: So this is the first time I believe.
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Speaker 1: That Foreman comes on CNN to discuss this issue of
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Speaker 1: Waltz's military record, and he's pretty fair. I mean, he
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Speaker 1: comes to a pretty damning conclusion, although he tries to
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Speaker 1: put it in the very best light possible with regard
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Speaker 1: to this issue of whether or not Waltz ever served
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Speaker 1: in combat, which he clearly did not, although it appears
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Speaker 1: very much that he claimed that he did.
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Speaker 2: And here's what that sounded like. On CNN.
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Speaker 3: Waltz did make a comment speaking to a group. He's
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Speaker 3: done it a couple of times where he has used
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Speaker 3: language that has suggested that he carried weapons in a
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Speaker 3: fighting situation. As you know with your contact with the military,
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Speaker 3: I know from coming from a military family, there is
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Speaker 3: a difference between being in a combat area, being involved
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Speaker 3: at a time of war, and actually being in a
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Speaker 3: position where people are shooting at you. There is no
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Speaker 3: evidence that at any time Governor Waltz was in a
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Speaker 3: position of being shot at, and some of his language
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Speaker 3: could easily be seen to suggest that he was. So
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Speaker 3: that is absolutely false when he said that about a
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Speaker 3: out gun rights out there.
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Speaker 1: So that's okay by CNN standards. If you take what
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Speaker 1: Foreman said, that's significant and it's true. He does try
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Speaker 1: to downplay it as much as possible and soft pedal
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Speaker 1: it as much as possible, but that's to be expected
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Speaker 1: because it's CNN and Waltz is a progressive Democratic vice
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Speaker 1: presidential candidate.
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Speaker 2: Then, in a.
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Speaker 1: Clip that I as I said, I believe happened later,
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Speaker 1: Foreman comes on with Jake Tapper. Now, Jake Tapper is
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Speaker 1: somebody who's become more and more obviously a liberal Democrat
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Speaker 1: as the years have gone on. He was a big
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Speaker 1: supporter of Josh Shapiro and his vice presidential bid, partially
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Speaker 1: because they share a lot in common, especially geographically in Philadelphia,
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Speaker 1: but I think also politically, and Tapper had Foreman on
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Speaker 1: to seemingly combat the broader issue of this whole concept
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Speaker 1: of stolen valor, that Waltz is being accused of stealing valor,
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Speaker 1: which is actually in some cases illegal when it comes
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Speaker 1: to lying about your military service. And Topper pushes back
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Speaker 1: hard against this entire idea, in fact, basically saying it's absurd,
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Speaker 1: and Foreman eagerly agrees with him. But they seem to
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Speaker 1: be doing this based upon a false narrative or a misunderstanding,
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, of the timeline of Walts's National Guard
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Speaker 1: service and when his National Guard unit was called up
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Speaker 1: to serve in a rock where Walts did not serve
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Speaker 1: because he had already retired. And this gets complicated. But
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Speaker 1: this I think the media wants this to get complicated
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Speaker 1: so that they can muddy the water and just move on.
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Speaker 1: But here it's the same tom Orman on CNN with
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Speaker 1: Jake Tapper creating a very different impression about the larger
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Speaker 1: issue of Tim Tim Waltz and his military record and
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Speaker 1: whether or not it's a positive or a negative.
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Speaker 2: The yeah, he retired as.
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Speaker 4: An E eighth, not as an E nine. These tend
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Speaker 4: to be very internal military debates and discussions, and for
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Speaker 4: the rest of us who never served, our instinct is
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Speaker 4: thank you for serving.
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Speaker 3: And to equate that to stolen valor, now that's crazy.
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Speaker 2: It's not stolen valid.
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Speaker 1: So, as I said earlier, that's a perfect example of
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Speaker 1: where the news media when they want to be biased
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Speaker 1: in one direction obviously in the direction of the Democratic
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Speaker 1: candidate protecting a brand new vice presidential nominee, that they
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Speaker 1: will focus on the part of the story that they
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Speaker 1: think is the most vulnerable and where they can most
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Speaker 1: easily muddy the water, and they can pretend that that's
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Speaker 1: the whole story. And that's what they're doing with regard
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Speaker 1: to Tim Waltz and his military service. There's been a
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Speaker 1: lot of focus on the left and even criticism of JD.
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Speaker 1: Vance because jd Vance compared his service in a Rock
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Speaker 1: to Tim Waltz's service in a rock which was nonexistent.
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Speaker 1: And there have been media outlets that have been trying
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Speaker 1: to say no, no, no, wait a minute, hold on JD.
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Speaker 1: Vance is actually lying, which is hilarious given all the
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Speaker 1: lies that Waltz is apparently told about his military record
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Speaker 1: and other elements of his biography.
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Speaker 2: But they're claiming that Vance actually lied.
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Speaker 1: Because if you look at the timeline, Waltz retired before
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Speaker 1: his unit was called up, so this is not relevant.
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Speaker 1: He didn't avoid service well, and this happens all the
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Speaker 1: time when it comes to the news media evaluating stories
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Speaker 1: and what actually happened. I must have seen this happen
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Speaker 1: dozens of times in the entire Penn State Joe Paterno
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Speaker 1: Jerry Sandusky scandal, where the media looks at a timeline
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Speaker 1: or a set of circumstances and they interpret it through
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Speaker 1: the prism of what they want to be reality, and
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Speaker 1: they never even consider not only an alternative reality, but
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Speaker 1: something that could be one hundred and eighty degrees from
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Speaker 1: what they presume the truth to be. And there's been
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Speaker 1: some reporting, unfortunately it's only on the right that indicates
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Speaker 1: that the reason that Walt's retired or at least information
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Speaker 1: that existed.
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Speaker 2: When Walt's retired for the National Guard was.
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Speaker 1: That his unit was going to be called up to
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Speaker 1: a rock, so that there was a reason why he
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Speaker 1: just suddenly retired just before that actually happened.
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Speaker 2: Now, is it there's the.
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Speaker 1: Lock dead since proof of this not that I can tell,
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Speaker 1: but it's certainly makes a lot of sense that you
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Speaker 1: get word that your unit is going to be called
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Speaker 1: up to rock. You don't want to serve in rock.
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Speaker 1: You can understand why somebody might do that, but then
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Speaker 1: you don't get the claim that you're some sort of
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Speaker 1: war hero. And you know, Waltz decides, Okay, this is
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Speaker 1: a good time for me to get out. So the
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Speaker 1: media is using that timeline as an exoneration of Waltz
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Speaker 1: and a condemnation of Vance, when in fact, it's one
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Speaker 1: hundred percent consistent with what Vance is saying.
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Speaker 2: You just have to use your brain.
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Speaker 1: And like I said, there's been reporting that indicates that
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Speaker 1: Waltz was well aware and the unit was well aware
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Speaker 1: that they were going to be called up to a rock,
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Speaker 1: and that's why he decided to get out.
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Speaker 2: When he did.
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Speaker 1: But there are lies or misinformation or untruths all over
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Speaker 1: Waltz's record. The media has become completely complicit in this.
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Speaker 1: The media is actually being used as the fall guy
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Speaker 1: for some of them quote unquote misinformation surrounding Waltz's military career.
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Speaker 2: And the part of this that.
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Speaker 1: Is most insidious, most outrageous, and the most dramatically an
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Speaker 1: indication of the death of journalism is that in a
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Speaker 1: rational world, so there's been numerous situations where there's something
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Speaker 1: that's been reported about Walts's military career that's false we
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Speaker 1: now know as false, that makes it look better than
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Speaker 1: it actually was, and the media has been falling on
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Speaker 1: the sword for Waltz, pretending that, oh, yeah, we got
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Speaker 1: it wrong. Waltz didn't get it wrong. Well, where the
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Speaker 1: fuck did that come from? Where did you get that
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Speaker 1: false information from?
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Speaker 2: You didn't just make this up.
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Speaker 1: You got this either from Walts himself or his campaign
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Speaker 1: or someone very very close to him. This is it's absurdity,
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Speaker 1: But that's how deeply complicit elements of the news media
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Speaker 1: are with the Democratic ticket now, though they would rather
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Speaker 1: they take the blame for there being misinformation surrounding Waltz's
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Speaker 1: military record, then for it to appear as if Waltz
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Speaker 1: has lied, and there are multiple examples of this, and
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Speaker 1: it's one of these classic situations where there are so
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Speaker 1: many problems with Waltz's or potential problem with Waltz's military
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Speaker 1: career and record and what he has said about it,
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Speaker 1: that it actually weirdly works to his advantage because, as
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Speaker 1: I've already said, the media can focus on the weakest
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Speaker 1: angle of that and pretend that that's the controversy. For instance,
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Speaker 1: there is an indication that he has claimed to have
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Speaker 1: served in Afghanistan.
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Speaker 2: That is not true. He did not serve in Afghanistan.
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Speaker 1: But there are apparently fake videos making their way on
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Speaker 1: social media that are not helping with that particular issue,
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Speaker 1: and then are allowing the media to avoid that aspect
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Speaker 1: of the story. And it certainly seems to me as
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Speaker 1: if there is a pattern here when it comes to
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Speaker 1: who Tim Waltz is. I mean, he lies in distorts
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Speaker 1: about almost everything about his biography and his career, and
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Speaker 1: he much like Kamal Aris, he's a chameleon that changes
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Speaker 1: into whatever he needs to be at that moment. For instance,
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Speaker 1: this may sound like a minor deal, but to me
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Speaker 1: it's not. There's been an indication that he has implied
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Speaker 1: that he coached a state championship high school football team
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Speaker 1: in Minnesota. Now, he was a football coach, he did
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Speaker 1: tea each high school.
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Speaker 2: But I saw an.
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Speaker 1: Interview with a local sports reporter in Minnesota that says, yet, no,
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Speaker 1: he was at best like the JV coach, which in
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Speaker 1: most high school football situations. And I know this personally,
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Speaker 1: having written a book about high school football team and
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Speaker 1: coached high school football in two different states and never
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Speaker 1: been ahead varsity coach, so I know the structure of this.
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Speaker 2: You know, if he was really coaching the JV team
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Speaker 2: or maybe.
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Speaker 1: Even an assistant on the JV team, that the reporter
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Speaker 1: wasn't one hundred percent sure you have nothing to do
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Speaker 1: really with the coaching of that varsity football team.
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Speaker 2: You're probably on the sidelines for.
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Speaker 1: The game or maybe up in the in the booth,
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Speaker 1: but you have nothing to do with actually coaching that
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Speaker 1: varsity high school football team to a state championship. Yet
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Speaker 1: that you know, the media is never going to call
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Speaker 1: Waltz out on that, And that's an important part of
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Speaker 1: his persona as he tries to create this this myth
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Speaker 1: that he's.
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Speaker 2: A political model, an everyday guy.
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Speaker 1: He's a centrist, you know, the hunter and the Fisher,
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Speaker 1: and he's the kind of progressive Democrat that can appeal
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Speaker 1: to everyday Americans and the white guys well, like a
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Speaker 1: lot of his military service. It's not true, But unfortunately,
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Speaker 1: I don't believe that these military service controversies, which have
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Speaker 1: certainly on Twitter dominated the last couple of days of
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Speaker 1: coverage after the announcement of his selection as Kamala Harris
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Speaker 1: as vice presidential nominee. I don't think they're going to
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Speaker 1: make a big deal. I don't think it's going to
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Speaker 1: change the race at all. I don't think they're going
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Speaker 1: to be able to palinize Waltz the way that, for instance,
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Speaker 1: or Democrats and the media did to Sarah Palin in
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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight.
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Speaker 2: I think there's.
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Speaker 1: Enough there that if they wanted to, they could palonize him,
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Speaker 1: but there's no desire and there's no way for Republicans
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Speaker 1: in the right wing media to keep this thing alive
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Speaker 1: unless there's some massive other element of this story. And
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Speaker 1: even then, I'm not sure that we live in that
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Speaker 1: world anymore. I don't think we live in that world anymore,
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Speaker 1: especially in the post Trump era where Trump didn't serve.
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Speaker 2: Trump got the.
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Speaker 1: Firmans under dubious circumstances, and that's enough of an excuse
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Speaker 1: for as you heard Jake Tapper making the argument, well
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Speaker 1: he served, thank you very much. Doesn't matter that he
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Speaker 1: lied about it or misled people or made it a
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Speaker 1: bigger deal than it actually was. That doesn't matter because
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Speaker 1: he actually served. And that's an argument that, especially with
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Speaker 1: Trump's skeptical people, is going to be enough to get
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Speaker 1: them through this.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's been some.
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Speaker 1: Speculation that somehow this is going to result in Walt's
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Speaker 1: not even being the Democratic vice presidential nominee, and as
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Speaker 1: of this taping, that is completely ridiculous. There is no
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Speaker 1: chance of that, not just because the left wing media,
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to let this thing grow out of proportion,
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Speaker 1: but also because the reality is after the Biden withdraw,
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Speaker 1: Democrats are stocked. They can't reverse themselves a second time. Now. Look,
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Speaker 1: I didn't think they'd be able to get away with
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Speaker 1: the first switch as seamlessly as they have, but there's
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Speaker 1: just no way that you know they're going to get
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Speaker 1: rid of their their presidential nominee, make that switch, name
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Speaker 1: a vice presidential nominee and then switch that out and
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Speaker 1: who they're going to go to. So look, I mean,
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Speaker 1: we've seen very very strange things in this cycle, but
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Speaker 1: I just don't buy that there's any pressure in the
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Speaker 1: real world to make this kind of a change, and
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Speaker 1: it's not going to happen politically. I think they're probably
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Speaker 1: very happy with the rollout of Tim Waltz. And I
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Speaker 1: think that, you know, one of the elements of this thing. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: the biggest issue here is what does it say about
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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris that she picked Tim Waltz.
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Speaker 2: And what I think it says is two things.
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Speaker 1: One, they didn't think any of these controversies that have
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Speaker 1: come up, because I'm going to give them the benefit
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Speaker 1: of doubt, and I'm going to say that they knew
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Speaker 1: that these things could become issues, but they didn't care
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Speaker 1: because in their worldview they're not problematic.
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Speaker 2: And I'm sure that they looked at.
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Speaker 1: The counter and they said, well, you know, first of all,
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Speaker 1: it's great that he served, and two Trump didn't serve.
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Speaker 1: And three of the media's on our side, so we'll
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Speaker 1: get away with that no problem. As is the case
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Speaker 1: with all these other elements of Tim Waltz's biography. Let
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Speaker 1: me give you one that is I think more troubling
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Speaker 1: than the whole stolen valor military service lying about his
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Speaker 1: record issue, and that is a statement that Tim Waltz
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Speaker 1: made on MSNBC about the issue of free speech. And
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Speaker 1: this is something that in irrational world would put chills
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Speaker 1: down the spine of every medium. But instead the news
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Speaker 1: media has said nothing about this. The liberal mainstream media
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Speaker 1: has said nothing about this. This is incredibly scary. This
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Speaker 1: is a guy who clearly has no knowledge of the
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Speaker 1: issue of free speech, the issue of the Supreme Court
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Speaker 1: having clearly ruled that hate speech is protected by the
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Speaker 1: First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States. Because
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Speaker 1: Tim Waltz claims, oh no, no, not only is hate
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Speaker 1: speech not protected, but misinformation should not be protected speech
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Speaker 1: under the First Amendment, which is as extreme a position
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Speaker 1: as you can possibly conceive of in the United States
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Speaker 1: of America and extremely anti free speech. And here's what
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Speaker 1: it sounded like when walt said it on MSNBC.
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Speaker 2: I think we need to push back on this.
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Speaker 3: There's no guaranteed of free speech on misinformation or hate speech,
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Speaker 3: and especially around our inocricy.
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Speaker 1: First of all, that is totally, completely, factually wrong. That
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Speaker 1: is a level of ignorance about the law and about
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Speaker 1: previous Supreme Court rulings that in a remotely rational world
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Speaker 1: ought to be a disqualifier, disqualifier to be vice president
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Speaker 1: of the United States. And it's not even being treated
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Speaker 1: as if it's an issue. But it's even scarier that
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Speaker 1: he one believes that's the truth and two clearly wants
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Speaker 1: that to be the truth. And if you think that
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Speaker 1: this is just an idle issue, that this is liberal
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Speaker 1: pie in the sky, that this is them in their
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Speaker 1: dream world, getting to decide which speech is acceptable, which
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Speaker 1: is legal, which is not, and that they can somehow
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Speaker 1: make it illegal to have hate speech or to have
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Speaker 1: even misinformation, And that will never happen because the Constitution
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Speaker 1: is clear, and the First Amendment is clear, and the
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Speaker 1: Supreme Court rulings have been clear. If you are under
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Speaker 1: that delusion, I point you to what has just happened
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Speaker 1: in England where they are now making it illegal, illegal
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Speaker 1: to tweet and even retweet posts on Twitter that are
22:25
Speaker 1: deemed to be hate speech, specifically from a racial perspective.
22:31
Speaker 1: And if you think I'm exaggerating or I am over stated,
22:36
Speaker 1: in the case I'm not. Here's a clip from Stephen Parkinson,
22:41
Speaker 1: who is England's Director of Public Prosecutions, explaining what the
22:48
Speaker 1: new law in England is in terms that are beyond frightening,
22:55
Speaker 1: especially coming from a Western country like England.
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Speaker 5: The offensive incitement of racial hatred involves publishing or distributing
23:06
Speaker 5: material which is insulting or abusive, which is intended or
23:13
Speaker 5: likely to start racial hatred. So if you retweet that,
23:17
Speaker 5: then you're republishing that, and then potentially you're committing that offense.
23:20
Speaker 5: And we do have dedicated police officers who are scouring
23:24
Speaker 5: social media.
23:25
Speaker 2: Their job is to look for.
23:27
Speaker 5: This material and then follow up with identification arrists and
23:31
Speaker 5: so forth. So it's really really serious. People might think
23:36
Speaker 5: they're not doing anything harmful, they are and the consequences
23:40
Speaker 5: will be visited upon them.
23:43
Speaker 1: I talk all the time about the slippery slope, and
23:46
Speaker 1: there is no better or worse example of the horrors
23:51
Speaker 1: of the slippery slope. The dangers of the slippery slope
23:54
Speaker 1: then in the realm of free speech, because once you
23:57
Speaker 1: start down that slope on speech issues, it's over. It's
24:02
Speaker 1: either all or it is nothing. Because as soon as
24:06
Speaker 1: you decide that there are things that are not legal
24:09
Speaker 1: to say, especially when the people deciding what's illegal to
24:14
Speaker 1: say are liberals and are going to interpret that through
24:17
Speaker 1: their own bizarre, often mental illnesses and extreme political agenda.
24:24
Speaker 2: There is no free speech. It does not exist.
24:29
Speaker 1: And this is what they have been trying to do
24:32
Speaker 1: all over the world for years.
24:34
Speaker 2: Get their foot of the door.
24:36
Speaker 1: If they can get their foot in the door so
24:39
Speaker 1: that they can become the judges of what is acceptable
24:43
Speaker 1: speech and what is not, they can end all opposition
24:49
Speaker 1: because they get to determine what's inappropriate, therefore what's illegal.
24:55
Speaker 1: And my god, you can drive a proverbial mac truck
25:00
Speaker 1: through the through the I guess you would call it
25:03
Speaker 1: a loophole that England has created with regard to hate speech.
25:07
Speaker 1: And by the way, it's important to point out how
25:10
Speaker 1: this began. Talking about the slippery slope. To me, one
25:14
Speaker 1: of the key moments in the depth of free speech,
25:18
Speaker 1: which happens to be the title of a book I
25:20
Speaker 1: wrote almost twenty years ago, which which was incredibly, incredibly
25:26
Speaker 1: unfortunately uncanny and seeing what the future was gonna hold.
25:31
Speaker 1: One of the key moments was when soccer crowds in
25:37
Speaker 1: Europe could be punished and banished for so called hate speech.
25:44
Speaker 1: And I looked at that and I said, oh, oh,
25:47
Speaker 1: here we go, because it changed the psychological mentality of
25:53
Speaker 1: the entire continent.
25:55
Speaker 2: Everyone said, oh, well, okay, that's not that big of
25:58
Speaker 2: a deal.
25:58
Speaker 1: You know, it's important to keep soccer safe and players
26:02
Speaker 1: shouldn't be exposed to hateful comments, and obviously all racism
26:07
Speaker 1: is bad, so.
26:09
Speaker 2: You know, okay, no big deal.
26:11
Speaker 1: It's just within you know, sporting events, specifically soccer games,
26:15
Speaker 1: where where they're gonna really crack down on hate speech
26:18
Speaker 1: because it's getting out of hand and.
26:20
Speaker 2: People are just too passionate about their soccer.
26:23
Speaker 1: Well, you don't get to England having punishments, criminal punishments
26:31
Speaker 1: for tweets and read tweets of allegedly hateful comments on
26:38
Speaker 1: Twitter without first having what happened with regard to the
26:43
Speaker 1: guidelines of speech at soccer games.
26:46
Speaker 2: That's the slippery slope.
26:48
Speaker 1: And you don't get the First Amendment disappearing for all
26:54
Speaker 1: intensive purposes in America without all of Europe and specifically
26:59
Speaker 1: in doing what they just did in the realm of
27:04
Speaker 1: quote unquote hate speech. And it's the ambiguity is just
27:08
Speaker 1: so obvious here but once you start to make any exceptions,
27:14
Speaker 1: it's over because the people interpreting that speech are going
27:18
Speaker 1: to be lunatics, they're going to be obviously liberals, they're
27:23
Speaker 1: going to be people who think that any criticism of
27:26
Speaker 1: anybody who's black is inherently racist. My god, we saw
27:29
Speaker 1: that just the other day when Trump went to the
27:32
Speaker 1: Nationalist National Association of Black Journalists of ED, the first
27:36
Speaker 1: question was basically painting him as a racist because the
27:40
Speaker 1: audacity to criticize some people who happen.
27:42
Speaker 2: To be black. That's where we are now.
27:45
Speaker 1: This is a way of blanket protection, providing blanket protection
27:50
Speaker 1: for all sorts of usually very liberal people, are very
27:55
Speaker 1: liberal groups. You cannot criticize them because it is going
27:58
Speaker 1: to be categorized.
28:00
Speaker 2: As hate speech.
28:02
Speaker 1: And now it's going to be illegal in England, and
28:06
Speaker 1: Tim Waltz wants it to be illegal in the United States.
28:11
Speaker 2: And by the way, once.
28:12
Speaker 1: You get to the issue of misinformation, that this is
28:14
Speaker 1: the slippery slope again, you start with hate speech because
28:16
Speaker 1: they've already done the groundwork in basically bamboozling people that
28:23
Speaker 1: this is something that can be isolated to just clearly
28:26
Speaker 1: racist speech. And no one's in favor of racist speech,
28:29
Speaker 1: so they understand that that's the great point of vulnerability.
28:33
Speaker 1: But once they get the foot in the door there,
28:35
Speaker 1: once the camel's nose is under the tent, then they
28:38
Speaker 1: go to misinformation. Because you can't have misinformation, especially about
28:41
Speaker 1: our elections, because that would be anti democratic. What the
28:44
Speaker 1: fuck are you talking about. Democracy is based on the
28:49
Speaker 1: idea of extremely strong disagreements and the ability to have
28:55
Speaker 1: the freedom to express what you believe the truth to
28:59
Speaker 1: be or what you think should happen. And if one
29:01
Speaker 1: side is handicapped because they're afraid that what they're saying
29:06
Speaker 1: may be deemed to be illegal.
29:08
Speaker 2: Then you don't have democracy anymore.
29:10
Speaker 1: But of course this is a pro democracy party, the
29:13
Speaker 1: Democratic Party that has a presidential candidate that has never
29:16
Speaker 1: received a primary vote in her life for president and
29:20
Speaker 1: didn't even go through any sort of an open process,
29:22
Speaker 1: and forget about an open convention to be handed the
29:25
Speaker 1: nomination by a couple of party bosses. I mean, this
29:29
Speaker 1: is a totally upside down world. We're living in, completely
29:32
Speaker 1: upside down world. Everything's the opposite of the way it
29:36
Speaker 1: ought to be. We've completely left the poll of the
29:39
Speaker 1: rational earth, the gravitational pull of the rational earth, and
29:43
Speaker 1: Tim Waltz unfortunately represents really, i think maybe the mainstream
29:50
Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party when it comes.
29:52
Speaker 2: To this issue of free speech, and that.
29:56
Speaker 1: This is a classic example where there's so many other
29:58
Speaker 1: things now that people are focused on with regard to
30:01
Speaker 1: Tim Waltz's record, that this.
30:02
Speaker 2: Is getting lost. Frankly, to me, this is a libertarian
30:06
Speaker 2: free speech evoicate.
30:07
Speaker 1: This is the biggest issue, especially given what we just
30:11
Speaker 1: went through with the whole COVID panic, which should have
30:14
Speaker 1: shown people that, guess what, we don't really have free
30:17
Speaker 1: speech rights in this country anymore. The people don't really
30:20
Speaker 1: believe in it. The news media doesn't even believe in it.
30:24
Speaker 1: That's the part that's the scariest. The news media's entire
30:28
Speaker 1: business is based on the idea that the First Amendment.
30:31
Speaker 2: Exists, and they're not protecting it.
30:34
Speaker 1: Why because well, they see themselves as it's being more
30:38
Speaker 1: important to protect the Democratic Party in their new vice
30:42
Speaker 1: presidential candidate than to protect our very way of life
30:46
Speaker 1: and the essence of why they exist in the first place.
30:48
Speaker 1: It's absolutely mind blowing and scary as hell. And you know,
30:53
Speaker 1: there's another aspect of the Tim Waltz biography. That should
30:57
Speaker 1: be a very fertile ground for Reublicans to attack, and
31:01
Speaker 1: that's the entire George Floyd riots, his role in allowing
31:05
Speaker 1: that to get completely out of control. It's a great
31:09
Speaker 1: attack narrative for Republicans in theory because Waltz was the
31:13
Speaker 1: governor and Harris solicited publicly donations for criminals who participated
31:21
Speaker 1: in those riots. So you can attack both of them simultaneously.
31:26
Speaker 1: It's not as easy as it should be because the
31:29
Speaker 1: media has created a completely false narrative about the entire
31:33
Speaker 1: George Floyd situation episode court case to begin with, and
31:38
Speaker 1: so that's an uphill climb, but it's at least doable.
31:41
Speaker 2: I think you can.
31:42
Speaker 1: Separate, even though you shouldn't have to what happened allegedly
31:46
Speaker 1: with George Floyd, with the riots themselves, and I do
31:49
Speaker 1: think most people, especially in swing states, have a problem
31:53
Speaker 1: with how things got out of hand, and there would
31:55
Speaker 1: be a lot of room for attacks to potentially work
31:59
Speaker 1: against both Harris and Waltz because of what happened in
32:02
Speaker 1: Minnesota after the George Floyd situation and the riots that
32:06
Speaker 1: broke out. But much like Trump, not serving in the
32:10
Speaker 1: military blunts any real damage from attacks on Tim Waltz's
32:17
Speaker 1: military record and what he claims about his military record.
32:20
Speaker 1: Donald Trump has once again come to the rescue of
32:25
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party and has killed any real residence for
32:31
Speaker 1: this George Floyd riot narrative. Why well, because there is
32:36
Speaker 1: audio of Donald Trump praising Tim Waltz profusely and specifically
32:46
Speaker 1: for how he handled the George Floyd riots.
32:50
Speaker 2: I'm not making this up.
32:51
Speaker 1: It's pretty clear to me and to other political commentators
32:56
Speaker 1: that Democrats when they picked Waltz, when Harris and her
32:59
Speaker 1: team pick Waltz, they knew they had this in their
33:03
Speaker 1: pocket and that this would be more than enough to
33:06
Speaker 1: allow the news media to never address the Minnesota riots
33:11
Speaker 1: and the George Floyd situation.
33:12
Speaker 2: Again, because this is a mic drop. This is on tape.
33:16
Speaker 1: Donald Trump killing yet another potentially effective issue because he's
33:24
Speaker 1: on tape praising Tim Waltz.
33:27
Speaker 2: And his reaction to those riots. And here's what that
33:31
Speaker 2: sounded like.
33:32
Speaker 1: I know Robert Wolves is on the phone and we spoke,
33:36
Speaker 1: and I fully agree with the way he handled it.
33:40
Speaker 6: The last couple of days I asked him.
33:41
Speaker 1: To do that. I think Tim is on the phone now.
33:45
Speaker 1: Tim Walls again, I was very happy with the last
33:48
Speaker 1: couple of days. Tim, you called up the numbers and
33:51
Speaker 1: the big numbers knocked them out so fast it was
33:54
Speaker 1: like Bowlington's It's unbelievable. I mean, Donald Trump is the
34:00
Speaker 1: gift that keeps on giving to the Democratic Party. Any
34:05
Speaker 1: other Republican presidential candidate would be able to use this
34:10
Speaker 1: issue effectively, and instead Donald Trump has blunted it, probably completely.
34:19
Speaker 1: And it's because he's not really a conservative. One he's
34:22
Speaker 1: not that bright, and two he's not really a conservative.
34:26
Speaker 1: And those two things are devastating. And it really just
34:31
Speaker 1: by the way that part of that clip reminds me
34:34
Speaker 1: of just how played Trump was and exposed Trump was
34:40
Speaker 1: during the entire COVID panic of twenty twenty. I mean,
34:43
Speaker 1: because you have to put this under the realm of
34:46
Speaker 1: the COVID panic in my mind, because you know, everything
34:50
Speaker 1: was insane, everything was crazy. And part of why the
34:54
Speaker 1: George Floyd riots were so outrageous is the fact that
34:58
Speaker 1: they were happening with left wing approval, even the approval
35:02
Speaker 1: of some quote unquote science people in the midst of
35:06
Speaker 1: all these lockdowns, I mean, which was the ultimate proof
35:08
Speaker 1: that this was all bullshit. That wait a minute, how
35:11
Speaker 1: is it that you can allow people to protest and riot,
35:14
Speaker 1: but they can't go to funerals, they can't go to weddings,
35:17
Speaker 1: they can't go to school, they can't go to sporting events.
35:20
Speaker 1: I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous. And for a lot of
35:23
Speaker 1: people it was an eye opening experience.
35:26
Speaker 2: But Trump was.
35:27
Speaker 1: Still clearly under the delusion that, you know, he was
35:31
Speaker 1: going to be the bring everyone together president and somehow
35:36
Speaker 1: he was a wartime president, and you know, he was
35:39
Speaker 1: still getting praise and from people on the left at
35:43
Speaker 1: times if he was willing to do what Fauci wanted.
35:46
Speaker 1: And I just think it's a it's an indication of
35:49
Speaker 1: a delusional view that Trump had because he was incredibly naive,
35:54
Speaker 1: he was easily duped. He was played, much like he's
35:58
Speaker 1: been played with this entire sequence events with regard to
36:01
Speaker 1: Biden dropping out and Harris becoming the new nominee. He's
36:06
Speaker 1: easily played, He's easily fooled. And here we have audio
36:11
Speaker 1: evidence thanks to Trump that pretty much kills off this
36:16
Speaker 1: as a potent issue, one that should have been very,
36:20
Speaker 1: very effective against both Harris and Waltz. Now, as far
36:24
Speaker 1: as Harris herself is concerned, she continues to get away.
36:28
Speaker 1: As of this taping with all sorts of nonsense, she
36:32
Speaker 1: still has not done an interview. Jade Vans has been
36:35
Speaker 1: doing some good work trying to expose that, basically mocking
36:39
Speaker 1: the news media for well, you know, whether or not
36:42
Speaker 1: they're bored. He actually addressed the Harris media directly on
36:46
Speaker 1: the tarmac the other day whether or not they're bored
36:49
Speaker 1: because they have nothing to do because Harris won't answer
36:51
Speaker 1: any questions. I think he's right to do his best to.
36:55
Speaker 2: Shine a light on that.
36:56
Speaker 1: However, I'm not particularly optimistic about what's going to happ
37:00
Speaker 1: happen when she finally does sit down for interviews. I
37:03
Speaker 1: think this has been unfortunately a great strategy on the
37:07
Speaker 1: Harris team part. Let this all play out, don't do
37:10
Speaker 1: anything to disrupt this so called honeymoon period, let the
37:14
Speaker 1: momentum build, and then if things go as they are
37:18
Speaker 1: currently going and as we anticipate them going, by the
37:22
Speaker 1: time you do these interviews, you are going to be
37:25
Speaker 1: the presumed next president, which is going to get you
37:29
Speaker 1: totally different treatment, especially from the liberal mainstream news media.
37:34
Speaker 1: They will be under no pressure in their minds or
37:37
Speaker 1: in their social circles. To bring you down or to
37:41
Speaker 1: ask you tough questions, No, because then they're going to
37:44
Speaker 1: get away in the way of history and defeating Donald
37:48
Speaker 1: Trump for another for a second time. So she was
37:53
Speaker 1: already going to get soft treatment. But if she is
37:56
Speaker 1: perceived as clearly leading the race by the time she
37:59
Speaker 1: does these inner it's gonna give her even more leverage
38:03
Speaker 1: and the treatment's gonna be even more ridiculous sympathetic. So
38:06
Speaker 1: while I applaud JD. Vans for trying to make this
38:10
Speaker 1: an issue, and you know, maybe there'll be somewhat effective
38:14
Speaker 1: in guilting the news media, although I always say that
38:17
Speaker 1: they can't be guilted like they used to used to
38:20
Speaker 1: be able to guilt them ten, fifteen, twenty years ago
38:23
Speaker 1: because they they wanted to pretend.
38:25
Speaker 2: That they were fair. I don't feel like that.
38:27
Speaker 1: Even exists anymore, and we certainly haven't seen any the
38:31
Speaker 1: indication of it since the Biden withdraw that's for sure.
38:35
Speaker 1: But once Harris does interviews, and she will do interviews eventually, I.
38:39
Speaker 2: Believe they're gonna be unbelievably soft.
38:42
Speaker 1: And the more she leads and the longer this goes,
38:44
Speaker 1: the softer those interviews are gonna be and.
38:47
Speaker 2: She'll be able to get through that.
38:49
Speaker 1: And one of the many, many things she's never gonna
38:51
Speaker 1: be asked about, I guarantee this is the fact that,
38:55
Speaker 1: for a second time in just a couple of weeks,
38:59
Speaker 1: she has gone to a rally. She's done a rally
39:02
Speaker 1: in a key swing state and talked with a completely
39:07
Speaker 1: different accent. And this is not, you know, some conservative
39:12
Speaker 1: narrative where people are misinterpreting things or seeing it through
39:16
Speaker 1: a prism that you know, fits their political agenda. Doesn't
39:20
Speaker 1: really exist. She went to Georgia and full on gave
39:25
Speaker 1: a Southern accent to a black, mostly black crowd in Georgia,
39:30
Speaker 1: full on Southern accent.
39:31
Speaker 2: We played that clip. Well.
39:33
Speaker 1: This week she went to Michigan and she completely changed
39:38
Speaker 1: her accent again. This appeared to be once again appealing
39:42
Speaker 1: to a largely black audience with a completely different accent
39:47
Speaker 1: in Michigan than the one that she put on in Georgia.
39:50
Speaker 2: And again it's blatant.
39:52
Speaker 1: This is this doesn't even take you know, much interpretation.
39:56
Speaker 1: This is obviously not the way that she normally speaks.
40:00
Speaker 1: But here's what that sounded like in Michigan.
40:02
Speaker 2: Hold on, you know what here? Hold on, here's the thing.
40:06
Speaker 2: The courts are gonna handle that. We're gonna beat.
40:08
Speaker 6: Him in November.
40:13
Speaker 2: We'll beat him in November. We'll handle it. Folks.
40:17
Speaker 1: That's about as blatant as it gets. I mean, that's
40:20
Speaker 1: just flat out acting, and you can even argue racist.
40:25
Speaker 1: But is the media you're gonna make a big deal
40:28
Speaker 1: out of this? Absolutely not. Is she ever going to
40:29
Speaker 1: be asked about this? I would be stunned if she
40:31
Speaker 1: ever was. And this is the kind of thing that
40:36
Speaker 1: should be effective, especially if the Trump team had any
40:39
Speaker 1: clue what they were doing. I mean, they just put
40:41
Speaker 1: those two clips together, along with a clip of the
40:44
Speaker 1: way she normally speaks. And this is not an authentic person.
40:48
Speaker 1: This goes to who she is as a human being.
40:53
Speaker 2: Mean and Hillary.
40:54
Speaker 1: Clinton got criticized heavily for doing this type of stuff
40:57
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen. I think it stuck to her partially
41:00
Speaker 1: because of who she was, and partially because the media
41:03
Speaker 1: environment wasn't quite as bad in twenty sixteen as it
41:06
Speaker 1: is in twenty twenty four. But you know, and I
41:11
Speaker 1: just don't, unfortunately think that it's going to become nearly
41:14
Speaker 1: as big of an issue as it should here in
41:17
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, and it's one of those things that,
41:20
Speaker 1: to the average voter, should have an impact.
41:23
Speaker 2: People are gonna go, wait a minute, what the hell
41:25
Speaker 2: is that?
41:26
Speaker 1: But they have to at least be exposed to it
41:29
Speaker 1: in a way that makes it clear, and that's not
41:33
Speaker 1: going to happen from the news media. This is the
41:34
Speaker 1: great advantage that Democrats have is that they know that
41:38
Speaker 1: the news media, the mainstream news media, the media that
41:41
Speaker 1: actually has some semblance of an impact on independent and
41:45
Speaker 1: swing voters, is not going to make a big deal,
41:48
Speaker 1: if at all, about this. And it doesn't matter if
41:52
Speaker 1: it's played in right wing media, because all those people
41:56
Speaker 1: are stuck in their own silos and they're already voting
41:59
Speaker 1: for Trump and it has no real impact. And so
42:03
Speaker 1: it's incumbent on the Trump team to do whatever they
42:07
Speaker 1: can to get this out in front of a mainstream audience,
42:11
Speaker 1: of a low information voter audience, swing voters in swing states,
42:17
Speaker 1: and so far we're seeing no indication that the Trump
42:19
Speaker 1: team is capable of doing that for reasons that I
42:23
Speaker 1: am baffled by.
42:25
Speaker 2: But this accent issue, to me is significant because it
42:29
Speaker 2: goes to.
42:29
Speaker 1: This entire narrative of Kamala Harris changing with the win,
42:35
Speaker 1: whether it's her race, whether it's her accent, it's her
42:38
Speaker 1: political views now that she's changing all sorts of political
42:44
Speaker 1: positions that she has taken previously and not a long
42:47
Speaker 1: time ago, back when she was running for president in
42:50
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, and now she's flip flopped all over the place.
42:53
Speaker 1: The flip flopping she's been allowed to get away with
42:55
Speaker 1: and the Trump team has done very little to combat
42:59
Speaker 1: is mind blowing, breathtaking, astonishing, and very troubling if you're
43:05
Speaker 1: someone like me who does not want Kamala Harris to
43:08
Speaker 1: be elected for the next eight years, which is by
43:11
Speaker 1: far the most likely scenario if she does win this election,
43:14
Speaker 1: which seems to be increasingly likely. And so you know,
43:19
Speaker 1: this is none of this is going particularly well right now,
43:23
Speaker 1: and there's so much fodder to be used, but none
43:26
Speaker 1: of it is getting at least in the places where
43:29
Speaker 1: it needs to get if she's going to be defeated
43:33
Speaker 1: in this election. Now, speaking of doing interviews, I have
43:37
Speaker 1: said numerous times that it's absolutely amazing and then indication
43:41
Speaker 1: of the death of journalism that Joe Biden he's still
43:44
Speaker 1: president right by the way Biden is still president. Just checking,
43:47
Speaker 1: I think he is, yes, man, I'm not sure he
43:50
Speaker 1: understands he's still president, but technically Joe Biden is still president,
43:54
Speaker 1: and up until just a day ago, he had still
43:58
Speaker 1: not done an interview about the biggest political decision in
44:03
Speaker 1: the modern history of America, which was for him to
44:06
Speaker 1: drop out of the race.
44:07
Speaker 2: Now, as of this taping, I don't have the full interview.
44:11
Speaker 1: I don't think having anything close to the full interview
44:13
Speaker 1: which was done with Robert Costa of CBS.
44:16
Speaker 2: Now I'm amazed at Robert Costa, who I.
44:19
Speaker 1: Have had some run ins with, has done a major
44:25
Speaker 1: interview with the President of the United States about a
44:27
Speaker 1: very very significant topic at a very important time. I mean,
44:31
Speaker 1: to me, I just don't think he's that level of
44:33
Speaker 1: a player. But he's apparently pretty good at morphing himself
44:39
Speaker 1: and into what he needs to be to be perceived
44:43
Speaker 1: as a success, you know. To me, it's an indication
44:46
Speaker 1: of just how pathetic the news media has become that
44:49
Speaker 1: Robert Costa is the guy doing this level of an
44:53
Speaker 1: interview with the President of the United States.
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Speaker 2: But I digress.
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Speaker 1: So, as of this taping, I don't know what, if
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Speaker 1: if anything was actually said about what really matters, which
45:04
Speaker 1: is why did you withdraw? What happened to the Lord
45:08
Speaker 1: Almighty having to be the source of why you got
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Speaker 1: out of the race, How did that happen? What changed
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Speaker 1: your mind? Are you pissed off about it? Who betrayed you?
45:21
Speaker 1: I mean, there's all sorts of very key questions that
45:25
Speaker 1: as of this taping, I have no indication that Costa
45:28
Speaker 1: even fully went into.
45:29
Speaker 2: I would like to believe.
45:31
Speaker 1: That he did, but I have to say that since
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Speaker 1: the only clip that got leaked a day early had
45:37
Speaker 1: nothing to do with Biden's decision to withdraw, I'm very skeptical,
45:43
Speaker 1: and I actually think is it possible that that wasn't
45:46
Speaker 1: even a major focus of the interview? Now, I'm sure
45:49
Speaker 1: he was asked about it, because that would be insane,
45:53
Speaker 1: even by today's very very low media standards, to not
45:57
Speaker 1: ask about them withdraw with This is the first interview
45:59
Speaker 1: post withdraw, so he hasked to have asked about it.
46:02
Speaker 1: But the fact that there was nothing hugely newsmaking that
46:08
Speaker 1: leaked out a day before, they didn't use anything from
46:12
Speaker 1: that topic to promote this interview the day before, which
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Speaker 1: is what I have access to as of this taping
46:19
Speaker 1: is amazing. The only clip that was put out publicly
46:23
Speaker 1: to promote this interview, this seemingly theoretically very.
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Speaker 2: Newsmaking interview where we were.
46:31
Speaker 1: Supposed to find out for the first time what the
46:34
Speaker 1: hell actually happened with regard to Biden withdrawing from the
46:38
Speaker 1: presidential race at an unprecedentedly late moment. The only clip
46:43
Speaker 1: that has been leaked out had absolutely nothing to do
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Speaker 1: with his withdraw and instead had to do with this
46:52
Speaker 1: I think, frankly borderline absurd question.
46:56
Speaker 2: Based upon the current reality as.
46:59
Speaker 1: To whether not Biden believes that there will be a
47:03
Speaker 1: peaceful transfer of power in January of next year. And
47:10
Speaker 1: to me, the entire question is unbelievably biased because it
47:13
Speaker 1: implies that somehow Trump, who has already been president and
47:19
Speaker 1: lost and did leave.
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Speaker 2: Now he left under horrendous circumstances.
47:23
Speaker 1: I'm not going to spin that supposed to that for
47:24
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, and he didn't even go to the inauguration
47:27
Speaker 1: for Biden, but he did leave. Let's be clear about that.
47:32
Speaker 1: He did leave as the incumbent president. Well, Trump is
47:37
Speaker 1: not the incumbent president, so he has no power over
47:42
Speaker 1: any of this. So I don't even understand where this
47:45
Speaker 1: question is coming from. And I'm even more baffled by
47:49
Speaker 1: Biden's answer because he's completely confused as to which would
47:55
Speaker 1: be the more dangerous situation. He corrects himself in this clip.
48:02
Speaker 1: It's absolutely amazing is that the question is inappropriate and
48:08
Speaker 1: the answer from the President United States indicates both well
48:13
Speaker 1: indicate so many things. One Biden has no idea what's
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Speaker 1: really happening. To make an error the way that he
48:21
Speaker 1: did is an indication that his mental acuity is declining
48:25
Speaker 1: at a rapid rate. I don't even understand what he's
48:30
Speaker 1: trying to say. It still makes no sense, even when
48:32
Speaker 1: he corrects himself.
48:34
Speaker 2: And then he.
48:34
Speaker 1: Lies about the whole quote from Trump saying that there
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Speaker 1: would be a blood bath if he's not elected, which
48:43
Speaker 1: is not what Trump said. He said there would be
48:46
Speaker 1: a blood path in the auto industry if he was
48:50
Speaker 1: not elected. And Biden continues to lie about that constantly
48:54
Speaker 1: and is never corrected, and there's no indication cost to
48:57
Speaker 1: correct it. And during this interview that's just been a
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Speaker 1: out to become part of the narrative.
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Speaker 2: Biden gets to say it.
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Speaker 1: And by the way, you know, when Biden says it
49:05
Speaker 1: and doesn't get corrected. He thinks it's either true or
49:08
Speaker 1: I can get away with this, and he keeps saying it.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't make it true anyway.
49:13
Speaker 1: This is the clip that was used to promote this
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Speaker 1: interview to which I do not have access as of
49:18
Speaker 1: this taping, regarding Joe Biden and his belief that depending
49:25
Speaker 1: on whether Trump wins or loses somehow we may not
49:28
Speaker 1: have a peaceful transfer of power in January or twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty five.
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Speaker 6: Are you confident that there will be a peaceful transfer
49:38
Speaker 6: of power in January twenty twenty five if Trump wins.
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Speaker 2: No, I'm not confident at all. I mean, if Trump loses,
49:46
Speaker 2: I'm not confident at all. He means what he says.
49:49
Speaker 2: We don't take them seriously. He means it.
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Speaker 6: All the stuff about if we lose there'll be a
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Speaker 6: bloodbath have be a stone alcts. Look what they're trying
49:57
Speaker 6: to do now in the local election stakes for people
50:00
Speaker 6: count the votes or elected. They're putting people in place
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Speaker 6: in states that they're going to count the votes.
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Speaker 1: Right, as I've already indicated, there's so much about that
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Speaker 1: clip that is very, very troubling. But I just want
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Speaker 1: to address the main point, and that is, I don't
50:17
Speaker 1: get how there would not be a peaceful transfer of
50:21
Speaker 1: power if Trump lost. I don't understand either way. But
50:27
Speaker 1: if Trump loses, the transfer of power is from Biden
50:32
Speaker 1: to Harris. So what's Trump gonna do to disrupt that
50:39
Speaker 1: he's not president? And so, I mean, and he never
50:45
Speaker 1: said anything about a bloodbath if he lost, But let's
50:48
Speaker 1: just pretend that, okay, that there's some sort of civil
50:52
Speaker 1: unrest because it's a close election and Trump is saying
50:55
Speaker 1: the election is rigged against him for a second time.
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Speaker 2: That's certainly plaus I am fully acknowledging that that could happen.
51:03
Speaker 1: But where's the evidence or the logic that somehow that
51:08
Speaker 1: would prevent a peaceful transfer of power. I mean, Trump
51:12
Speaker 1: is far far more powerless today than he was in
51:18
Speaker 1: January of twenty twenty, and he couldn't come close to
51:22
Speaker 1: pulling well, some people think he came close. I don't
51:25
Speaker 1: think he came that close. But and again I'm not
51:27
Speaker 1: defending January sixth. It was awful, it was terrible. The
51:30
Speaker 1: whole thing was just a complete clusterfuck. He should have
51:34
Speaker 1: gone to the inauguration. So I'm on record for all that,
51:38
Speaker 1: But as bad as it was, it was it was
51:42
Speaker 1: not a situation where, you know, he didn't leave and
51:46
Speaker 1: he was president then he's not president now. And frankly,
51:51
Speaker 1: I think Biden, in a weird way, acknowledges that he's
51:54
Speaker 1: not making any sense by the fact that he had
51:56
Speaker 1: to correct himself.
51:57
Speaker 2: That wasn't to me. I did not interpret that as
52:00
Speaker 2: Biden misspeaking.
52:02
Speaker 1: I think Biden spoke off the cuff and he said, well,
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Speaker 1: I'm concerned about a peaceful transfer of power if Trump wins.
52:13
Speaker 1: And then he realized, wait a minute, that doesn't make
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Speaker 1: any sense because I'm the president, and if I'm acknowledging
52:19
Speaker 1: that Trump won, then I would be to blame for
52:22
Speaker 1: there not being a peaceful transfer of power. And so
52:25
Speaker 1: then he switched it to well know, if Trump loses.
52:29
Speaker 1: But then he didn't think that through, and like, well,
52:32
Speaker 1: wait a.
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Speaker 2: Minute, how does that make any sense?
52:34
Speaker 1: Because you're just going to transfer the power from you
52:37
Speaker 1: to your vice presidential nominee.
52:39
Speaker 2: That should be the.
52:40
Speaker 1: Most seamless transfer of power possible. But anyway, the bigger
52:45
Speaker 1: issue here is, and I don't have the information at
52:47
Speaker 1: this time, is that I am suspicious that Robert Costa
52:52
Speaker 1: did not get anything close to the truth when it
52:56
Speaker 1: came to what actually happened with the Biden withdrawal, What
53:00
Speaker 1: happened to the Lord Almighty who betrayed you? Why haven't
53:06
Speaker 1: you resigned from office? Don't you believe that Kamala Harris
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Speaker 1: is better suited to do the job over the next
53:13
Speaker 1: six months than you are?
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Speaker 2: What is the state of your health?
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Speaker 1: Did your health play a role in why you decided
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Speaker 1: to withdraw from the race. These are all incredibly important questions,
53:25
Speaker 1: and I don't have any faith that Costa got any
53:27
Speaker 1: answers or even ask the proper questions to begin with.
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