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Donald Trump The Conversation · Gil I Am

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to a very special episode of The Conversation. I
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  Speaker 1: just wrapped up an interview with President Donald Trump here
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  Speaker 1: at the White House. We spoke for about forty five
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  Speaker 1: minutes about the seismic impact that he is having all
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  Speaker 1: over the world, especially right now in Europe when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to the Ukraine Russia War, and when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to his relationship with our longtime allies, a very significant
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  Speaker 1: shift that his administration is looking to see on the
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  Speaker 1: European continent. We talked about Venezuela, of course, and then
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  Speaker 1: those domestic issues that are so important to Americans every
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  Speaker 1: day right now. That's talking about cost of living and affordability.
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  Speaker 1: It's talking about healthcare and those Obamacare subsidies that are
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  Speaker 1: set to expire at the end of the year. It
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  Speaker 1: was a wide ranging conversation. Here is my interview with
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  Speaker 1: President Donald Trump. Mister President, thank you so much for
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  Speaker 1: joining the Conversation.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so.
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  Speaker 1: Politico has named you as the most influential person shaping
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  Speaker 1: your as part of our annual Politico twenty eight list.
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  Speaker 1: Past names that have topped the list include President Zelenski,
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  Speaker 1: Prime Minister of Georgia Maloney, and President Victor orbon This year,
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  Speaker 1: Politico broke precedent to recognize an American for the first
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  Speaker 1: time in the history of p twenty eight and Sir,
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  Speaker 1: there is no question that you are having a seismic
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  Speaker 1: impact on the continent and its politics. One of the
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  Speaker 1: most brushing issues in Europe right now is the war
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  Speaker 1: between Russia and Ukraine. Your team has been going back
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  Speaker 1: and forth.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say one. I would say the most.
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  Speaker 1: The most. You're right, your team has been going back
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  Speaker 1: and forth between Putin and Zelensky with various drafts of
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  Speaker 1: his peace deal. Which country right now is in the
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  Speaker 1: stronger negotiating position, Well.
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  Speaker 2: There can be no question about it. It's Russia. It's
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  Speaker 2: a much bigger country. It's a war that should have
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  Speaker 2: never happened. Frankly, it wouldn't have happened if I were
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  Speaker 2: president and it didn't happen for four years. I watched
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  Speaker 2: that taking place and I said, wow, are they going
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  Speaker 2: to call it? Some problems here? And it started and
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  Speaker 2: it could have evolved into World War three. Frankly, I
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  Speaker 2: think it's probably not going to be happening now. I
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  Speaker 2: think if I weren't president, you could have had World
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  Speaker 2: War three. I think you would have had a much
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  Speaker 2: bigger problem than you have right now. But right now
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  Speaker 2: it's a big problem. It's a big problem for Europe
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  Speaker 2: and they're not handling it well.
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  Speaker 1: The last night you said that you weren't sure if
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  Speaker 1: President Zelenski was fine with the most recent proposal, that
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  Speaker 1: he isn't ready. I was hearing from your advisors around
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  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving that they thought this thing might be wrapped up
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  Speaker 1: by the end of the holiday, but it's still not done.
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  Speaker 1: Is Zelensky responsible for the stalled progress or what's going
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  Speaker 1: on there?
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's going to read the proposal. He hadn't written. Really,
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  Speaker 2: he hasn't read most recent draft that's as of yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: and maybe he's read it over the night. It would
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  Speaker 2: be nice if you would read it. You know a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people are dying, so it would be really
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  Speaker 2: good if he'd read it. His people loved the proposal,
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  Speaker 2: They really liked it. His lieutenant's, his tough people. They
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  Speaker 2: liked it. But they said he hasn't read it yet.
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  Speaker 2: I think he should find time to read it.
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  Speaker 1: Is it time for Ukraine to hold an election? Do
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  Speaker 1: you think?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so. It's been a long time. It
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  Speaker 2: hasn't been doing particularly well, Yeah, I think it's time.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's an important time to hold an election.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they're using war not to hold an election,
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  Speaker 2: but I would think the Ukrainian people would, you know,
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  Speaker 2: should have that choice, and maybe Zelenski would win. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know who would win, but they haven't had an
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  Speaker 2: election in a long time. You know, they talk about
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  Speaker 2: a democracy, but it gets to a point where it's
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  Speaker 2: not a democracy anymore.
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  Speaker 1: On Sunday, your son Donald Trump Junior responded to a
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  Speaker 1: reporter's question about whether you will quote walk away from Ukraine,
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  Speaker 1: and your son said, I think he may. Is that correct, No, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Not correct, but it's not exactly wrong. We have to
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  Speaker 2: you know, they have to play ball if they if
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  Speaker 2: they don't read agreementsotential agreements. You know, it's not easy
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  Speaker 2: with the Russia because Russia is the upper upper hand
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  Speaker 2: and they always did. They're much bigger, they're much stronger
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  Speaker 2: in that sense. I give Ukraine a lot of a
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  Speaker 2: lot of I give the people of Ukraine and the
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  Speaker 2: military of Ukraine tremendous credit for the you know, bravery
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  Speaker 2: and for the fighting and all of that. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: at some point, size will win. Generally, and this is
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  Speaker 2: a massive size. We take a look at the numbers.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the numbers are just crazy. This is not
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  Speaker 2: a war that should have happened. This is a war
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  Speaker 2: that would have never happened if I were president. So sad.
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  Speaker 2: Millions of people are dead, many many soldiers. You know,
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  Speaker 2: last month they lost twenty seven thousand soldiers and some
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  Speaker 2: people from missiles being launched into Kiev and uh Kieva
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  Speaker 2: and other places. But uh, what a what a say,
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  Speaker 2: what a sad thing for humanity? You know, this doesn't
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  Speaker 2: affect us. Uh, the our country is no longer paying
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  Speaker 2: any money. It was a Biden gave him three hundred
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  Speaker 2: and fifty billion dollars so stupidly. And you know, if
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  Speaker 2: he wouldn't have given it, maybe something else would have happened.
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  Speaker 2: But Putin has had no respect for Biden, and he
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  Speaker 2: had no respect for Zelensky. Didn't like Zelensky. They really
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  Speaker 2: hate each other. And part of the problem is they
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  Speaker 2: hate each other really a lot, you know, and it's
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  Speaker 2: very hard for them to try and make a deal.
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  Speaker 2: It's harder than most. I settled eight wars, and this
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  Speaker 2: I would have said, this is the ninth. This would
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  Speaker 2: have been the easiest one I would have said, or
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  Speaker 2: one of the easier ones. I mean, I settle one
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  Speaker 2: that was going on for thirty six years. I settled
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  Speaker 2: Pakistan and India. I settled so many wars. I'm very
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  Speaker 2: proud of it. And I do it pretty routinely, pretty easily.
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  Speaker 2: It's not hard for me to do. It's what I do.
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  Speaker 2: I make deals. This one is tough. One of the
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  Speaker 2: reasons is the level of hatred between Putin and Zolensky
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  Speaker 2: is tremendous.
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  Speaker 1: And you're right, you're not spending money, but you start
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  Speaker 1: are spending your time, and I want.
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  Speaker 2: To stop saving, you know, I want to stop seeing people.
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  Speaker 1: Can't this deal of Zelenski rejects this deal. Is there
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  Speaker 1: a timeline? Is there a point at which you.
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  Speaker 2: Say, well, he's going to have to get on the
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  Speaker 2: ball and start accepting things. You know, when you're losing.
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  Speaker 2: Is it losing?
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  Speaker 1: Do Ukraine has do you think of Ukraine has lost
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  Speaker 1: this war?
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  Speaker 2: Well, they've lost territory long before I got here. They
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  Speaker 2: lost the whole strip of Seafront, Big Seafront. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you look at the maps. I've been here for ten months,
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  Speaker 2: but you go back ten months and take a look,
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  Speaker 2: they lost that whole strip. It's now a bigger strip,
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  Speaker 2: it's a wider strip. But they lost a lot of land.
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  Speaker 2: And it's very good land too that they lost. You
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  Speaker 2: certainly wouldn't say it's a victory. They could show you
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  Speaker 2: a chart. It's a lot of land I lost.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot of land. I think that we're going to.
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  Speaker 2: Think of it. If our election wasn't rigged. It was
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  Speaker 2: a rigged election. Now everyone knows it's going to come
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  Speaker 2: out over the next couple of months too loud and
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  Speaker 2: clear because we have all the information there. But if
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  Speaker 2: the election wasn't rigged and stolen, you wouldn't even be
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  Speaker 2: talking about Ukraine right now.
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  Speaker 1: The resounding consensus in Europe right now is that they
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  Speaker 1: want to keep supporting Ukraine until they can win this war,
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  Speaker 1: until they drop.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, then they should support it. Europe
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  Speaker 2: is I'm friendly with all of them. I mean I
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  Speaker 2: like all of them. I have no real enemy. I've
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  Speaker 2: had a couple that I didn't like over the years.
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  Speaker 2: I actually like the current crew. I like them a lot,
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  Speaker 2: but they and I know them very well. I know
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  Speaker 2: them really well. Some are friends, some are okay, I
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  Speaker 2: know the good leaders. I know the bad leaders. I
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  Speaker 2: know the smart ones, I know the stupid ones. You
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  Speaker 2: get some real stupid ones to but they're not doing
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  Speaker 2: a good job. Europe is not doing a good job.
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  Speaker 2: In many ways. They're not doing a good job. They
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  Speaker 2: talk too much and they're not producing. We're talking about Ukraine.
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  Speaker 2: They talk, but they don't produce, and the war just
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  Speaker 2: keeps going on and on the four years now. It's
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  Speaker 2: been going on long before I got here. This is
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  Speaker 2: not my war. This is Joe Biden's work, and in
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  Speaker 2: terms of America, it's a very sad thing. And the
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  Speaker 2: only reason I really care about it is because I
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  Speaker 2: hate to see young, beautiful people being killed. That's largely
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  Speaker 2: why I got involved. I mean, if you look at
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  Speaker 2: the Congo and Rwanda that's been going on, fourteen million
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  Speaker 2: people at least killed. Nobody has any idea how many,
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  Speaker 2: but killed machetes, a lot of machete killings, vicious. But
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  Speaker 2: if you look at the wars and some of the
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  Speaker 2: wars that really we're going to be millions and millions
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  Speaker 2: of people. The Prime Minister of Pakistan said, I saved
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  Speaker 2: millions of people by getting involved with the stopping India
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  Speaker 2: and Pakistan from fighting.
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  Speaker 1: I do want to go back to Europe for a moment, though,
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  Speaker 1: because you said they're not doing a lot of things
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  Speaker 1: right in near view, and just what they.
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  Speaker 2: Can't be don't do right because look what's happened.
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  Speaker 1: Well, your administration just released a new national security strategy
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  Speaker 1: that sent shockwaves throughout Europe. The strategy says a key
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  Speaker 1: pillar of American foreign policy should be quote cultivating resistance
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  Speaker 1: to Europe's current trajectory within European nations. How much should
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  Speaker 1: European leaders prepare for your administration to push to reshape
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  Speaker 1: the continent's politics.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Europe is a different place, what do you mean?
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  Speaker 2: And if it keeps going the way it's going, Europe
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  Speaker 2: will not be in my opinion, many of those countries
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  Speaker 2: will not be viable countries any longer. Their immigration policy
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  Speaker 2: is a disaster. What they're doing with immigration is a disaster.
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  Speaker 2: We had a disaster coming, but I was able to
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  Speaker 2: stop it. You know, we have no people coming through
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  Speaker 2: our borders now, zero seven months. I mean, who would
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  Speaker 2: believe zero? We went from millions of people, in some
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  Speaker 2: cases millions of people a month, millions of people to know.
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  Speaker 1: Pa, that's not what Europe looks like.
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  Speaker 2: The opposite. Yeah, I know Europe. They're coming in from
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  Speaker 2: all parts of the world, not just the Middle East.
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  Speaker 2: They're coming in from the Congo, tremendous numbers of people
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  Speaker 2: coming from the Congo, and even worse, they're coming from
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  Speaker 2: prisons of the Congo and many other countries. And for
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  Speaker 2: some reason, they want to be politically correct, which actually
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  Speaker 2: I think is the opposite of politically correct. But they
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  Speaker 2: want to be politically correct and they don't want to
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  Speaker 2: send them back to where they came from. And Europe
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  Speaker 2: is If you take a look at Paris, it's a
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  Speaker 2: much different place. I loved Paris. It's a much different
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  Speaker 2: place than it was. If you take a look at London,
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  Speaker 2: you have a mayor named con He's a horrible mayor.
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  Speaker 2: He's an incompetent mayor, but he's a horrible, vicious, disgusting mayor.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's not terrible. If you have London's a
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  Speaker 2: different place. I love London. I love London, and I
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  Speaker 2: hate to see it happen. You know, my roots are
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  Speaker 2: in Europe, as you know, right, and I hate to
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  Speaker 2: see that happened. This is one of the great places
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  Speaker 2: in the world and they're allowing people just to come
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  Speaker 2: in and unchecked, unvetted.
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  Speaker 1: So how involved are you going to get? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: could we see you getting involved in Europeans.
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  Speaker 2: I want to run the United States. I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to run Europe. I'm involved in Europe very much.
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  Speaker 1: Might you endorse?
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  Speaker 2: They calls me daddy, I mean, I have a lot
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  Speaker 2: to say about it. Look, I raised you know, the
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  Speaker 2: GDP from two percent to five percent. The two percent
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  Speaker 2: they weren't paying in the five percent they are paying,
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  Speaker 2: and they're paying it because when we send things over,
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  Speaker 2: NATO pays for it, and I assume they give it
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  Speaker 2: to Ukraine. But Europe is being destroyed.
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  Speaker 1: Would you consider getting involved in some of those elections
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  Speaker 1: to put in leaders that you think are a better suitable.
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  Speaker 2: Well, i'd endorse. I've endorsed people, but I've endorsed people
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  Speaker 2: that a lot of Europeans don't like. I've endorsed Victor
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  Speaker 2: orbon I endorsed go Back to South America, Latin America,
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  Speaker 2: South America, Milay, Argentina. He was losing in the election
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  Speaker 2: and I endorsed him and he won in a.
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  Speaker 1: Landslide with Victor ORBN beyond endorsing. He recently said that
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  Speaker 1: you promised him access to US backed financial shield worth
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  Speaker 1: up to twenty billion dollars.
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  Speaker 2: That right, I didn't promise him, but he certainly asked
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  Speaker 2: for it.
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  Speaker 1: But would you consider giving that to him?
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  Speaker 2: I just think he's doing a very good job in
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  Speaker 2: a different sense on immigration. His country's landlocked, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's got a different kind of a country. He doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have the sea, so he can't have ships coming in
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  Speaker 2: with energy. He's got a big pipe coming in from Russia.
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  Speaker 2: They've had it for a long time. It's some different
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  Speaker 2: situation he's got.
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  Speaker 1: So would you consider some financial there.
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  Speaker 2: He's really gotten right as the immigration because he allows
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  Speaker 2: nobody in his country, and Poland has done a very
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  Speaker 2: good job in that respect too. But most European nations
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  Speaker 2: there decaying, the decaying.
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  Speaker 1: You can imagine some leaders in Europe are a little
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  Speaker 1: freaked out by what your posture is, and your.
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  Speaker 2: Flay should be freaked out by what they're doing to
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  Speaker 2: their countries. They're destroying their countries. People I like, look
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  Speaker 2: the people I like. I get along with them, you
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  Speaker 2: know that. But they can't let this happen. And it
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  Speaker 2: gets to a point where you can't really correct it.
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  Speaker 2: There'll be a point, and it's very close to that point.
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  Speaker 2: It will mean that they're no longer going to be
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  Speaker 2: strong nations. They'll be well, it depends, you know, it depends.
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  Speaker 2: They'll change their ideology, obviously, because the people coming in
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  Speaker 2: have a totally different ideology. But it's it's going to
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  Speaker 2: make that much weaker. There'll be a much they'll be
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  Speaker 2: much weaker, and they'll be much.
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  Speaker 1: Different for our relation.
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  Speaker 2: Look at your mayor of London. He's a disaster. He's
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  Speaker 2: a disaster. He's got a totally different ideology of what
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  Speaker 2: he's supposed to have, and he gets elected because so
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  Speaker 2: many people have come in and they vote for him
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  Speaker 2: now because you know, it's like it's one of those things.
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  Speaker 2: But I hate what's happened to London, and I hate
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  Speaker 2: what's happened to Paris. I hate when I see it,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: So it's sometimes hard to tell. When you see these things.
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  Speaker 1: Do you tend to send kind of a message of
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  Speaker 1: tough love to our allies to push them to make reforms,
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  Speaker 1: or do you think that many of them are just
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  Speaker 1: weak and you don't really want to be allies with them.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're weak. But I also think that they
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  Speaker 2: want to be so politically correct. I think they don't
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  Speaker 2: know what to do. Europe doesn't know what to do.
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  Speaker 2: They don't know what to do on trade either. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I look at a lot of the trade, you know,
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  Speaker 2: situation that's going on over there. It's a little bit dangerous.
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  Speaker 2: But Europe, they want to be politically correct, and it
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  Speaker 2: makes them weak. That's what makes them weak.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like you want to see some pretty massive changes.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think they should get the people out that
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  Speaker 2: came into the country illegally.
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  Speaker 1: I want to ask about you if you.
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  Speaker 2: Take a look at Sweden. So, Sweden was known as
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  Speaker 2: the safest country in Europe, one of the safest countries
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  Speaker 2: in the world. Now it's known as very unsafe, well
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  Speaker 2: pretty unsafe country. It's not even believable. It's a whole
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  Speaker 2: different country twins.
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  Speaker 1: Sweden most recently joined NATO. One of the things that
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  Speaker 1: the National Security Strategy says is that the US should
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  Speaker 1: work toward ending the perception and preventing the reality of
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  Speaker 1: NATO as a perpetually expanding alliance. Are there countries in
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  Speaker 1: NATO that you think shouldn't be in the Alliance.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there are countries that are difficult for NATO, not
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  Speaker 2: that they shouldn't be. I think it's good to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Turkey is an example. Erawe, it's a friend of mine.
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  Speaker 2: Whenever they have a problem with every one, they asked
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  Speaker 2: me to call because they can't speak to him. He's
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  Speaker 2: a tough cookie. I actually like him a lot. I
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  Speaker 2: think actually, you know, he's built a strong country, strong military.
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  Speaker 2: But they have a hard time dealing with them. And
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  Speaker 2: they asked me to call him, and I do call him,
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  Speaker 2: and I always work it out with him, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he and I work it out right really quickly. We
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  Speaker 2: had some people that he released that we're taken and
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  Speaker 2: going through years and years of court cases and everything else,
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  Speaker 2: and I said, you know, you got to release him,
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  Speaker 2: and he did. He he is, you know, very different
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  Speaker 2: than a lot of the other leaders. But they have
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  Speaker 2: a hard time with him. But you know they shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: really have a hard time.
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  Speaker 1: Should NATO stop accepting new members? Should NATO end where
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  Speaker 1: it is now?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, there aren't that many left when you
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  Speaker 2: get right down to it, right, there aren't that many left.
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  Speaker 2: It was always long before putin. It was an understanding
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  Speaker 2: that Ukraine would not be going into NATO. This was
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  Speaker 2: long before Putin in all fairness, and now they pushed.
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  Speaker 2: You know, when Zolinski first went in and first met Putin,
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  Speaker 2: he said, I want two things. I want Crimea back
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  Speaker 2: and we're going to be a member of NATO. He
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: didn't say it in a very nice way either. You know,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: he's he's a great salesman. I call him P. T. Barnum,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: you know who. P. T. Barnum was one of the
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: greatest on earths. He could sell any product at any time.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: That was his expression. I can sell any product at
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: any time. It is true, he said, doesn't matter whether
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: it works or not. But he's Bet Barnum. You know,
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: he got crooked Joe Biden to give him three hundred
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: and fifty billion dollars and look what it got got
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: him about twenty five percent of his country is missing.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: No fairness to Biden. Obama gave away Crimea. Obama Obama
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: because Crimea was the heart. You know, I'm a real
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: estate person at heart, right, I'm very good at real estate.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: And when I looked every time I look at that map,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I said, oh, this Crimea is so beautiful. Wow, it's
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: surrounded on four sides by ocean. It's only got a
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: little piece of land to get to, you know, to
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: the main, well the main, I mean Crimea is massive,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: but it connects the part of Ukraine that we talk
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: about now right through a small little g It's four
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: sides of ocean in the warmest part. It's got the
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: best weather, best of everything. And I know you are
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Ukrainian and you know Ukraine very well. And Obama forced
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: them to give up Crimea. That was a I remember
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: when it happened, but I wasn't involved like I am now,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: you know, to the knowledge that I have now I
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: have great knowledge of Ukraine. Now I have great knowledge
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: of Really this.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Conflict began back in twenty fourteen. People forget long before
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: the invasion of a few years ago.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Well you know when this conflict really began, though it
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: was simmering for years. But when Obama gave up Crimea,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: that was a big thing.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: I do want to ask, do.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: You agree with that it was a big piece to
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: give up. You are of Ukrainian descent, that was.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: A major mind. I mean, that was I remember, you know,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: when I first moved to the United States, a lot
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: of people didn't know what Ukraine even was. And it
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: was in twenty fourteen that people suddenly started to lies
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: how significant geopolitically that area really.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: To say, from the standpoint of beauty, whether everything CRIMEA
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: is the warmest. It's just got such great potential. And
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Obama forced them. Obama did this. This is not Biden.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Well maybe he was involved, I doubt and he probably
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: didn't know too much then either. He was never the
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: brightest bulb. But you know, Obama gave away. He made
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: them give it away.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I do think your approach to Europe is so different
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: than any of your predecessors.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: And I just want to see a strong and this.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: National security strategy, I mean, says a lot about the
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: changes that you want, but.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: You have to understand here's my approach to Europe. I
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: want to see a strong Europe. When they allow millions
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: of people to pour into their countries, many of these
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: people are committing tremendous crimes. And again, look at Sweden.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not knocking Sweden. I love Sweden. I love the
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: people of Sweden, but they go from a crime free
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: country to a country that has a lot of crime. Now,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: look at Germany. Germany was crime free and Angela made
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: two big mistakes, immigration and energy. But those two beauties. Well.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: One country that is pleased with the change in strategy
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: from the United States is Russia. A Kremlin spokesperson called
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: the strategy document a quote positive step and said the
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: adjustments they're seeing are quote largely consistent with Moscow's vision.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Do you think that's a good thing.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Well, I think he'd like to see a weak Europe
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: and so, you know, to be honest with you, he's
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: getting that that has nothing to do with it.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Thinks the changes that you're making and what you laid
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: out in your vision for Europe is what Moscow wants
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: to Sorry, I have.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: No vision for Europe. All I want to see is
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: a strong Europe. Look, I have a vision for the
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: United States America. First's make America great again. I do
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: explain to Europe because I think, you know, supposed to
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: be a very smart person. I have eyes, I have ears,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: I have knowledge. I have vast knowledge. I see what's happening.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I get reports that you will never see. And I
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: think it's horrible what's happening to Europe. I think it's
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: endangering Europe as we know it. Europe could be a
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: whole different place You're impact. I think the European people
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: should do something about it.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Your impact does stretch far beyond Europe. I want to
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: talk about another area where you're making your mark, which
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: is in Venezuela. You've said that Nicholas Maduro's days are
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: numbered and that the US could soon strike Venezuelan territory.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Could we see American troops on the ground in Venezuela.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I don't come and I wouldn't say that one way
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: or the other. I can say this that he sent
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: us millions of people, many from prisons, many drug dealers
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: and drug lores, mental institution, people in mental institutions. He
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: sent them into our country where we where we had
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: a very stupid present. You know that Biden's a low
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: IQ person, especially nowadays. I mean he was low IQ
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: thirty years ago, but he was especially low IQ now
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: and what he did to our country is not good.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Trend de Agua, the gangs one of the meanest gangs
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: in the world.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: You've locked down the border now.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Now he sent a lot of these people. He also
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: sends in a lot of drugs, So we'll see how
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: it all works out. I can't talk about.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: How far would you go to take Maduro out of office?
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say that, but you want to
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: see him out?
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: His days are numbered.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Can you rule out an American ground invasion?
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: I don't want to rule in or out. I don't
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: talk about it. Why would I talk to you an
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: extremely unfriendly publication if you want to call it politico
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: that got eight million dollars from Obama to keep it afloat.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Why would I do that? Why would I talk about
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: that too, Politico? I mean, I'm doing this because you
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: picked me as a man.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not transparency for their American people because.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: A lot I want the most transparent politician maybe in
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: the world.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: A lot of folks are wondering what our goals are.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Sure, but I don't want to talk to you about
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: military strategy.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Well, may I ask, then, what is your goal in Venezuela.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: What do you want to see with the actions that
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: you're taking.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Well, one goal is I want the people of Venezuela
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: to be treated well. I want the people of Venezuela,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: many of whom live in the United States, to be respected.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, they were tremendous to me. They voted for me,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: ninety four percent or something. I mean, it's incredible. I
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: own a big project, dural it's a great place, Durrell Country.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's a very large place, beautiful place right
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: in the middle of They call it Little Venezuela. And
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I got to know that Venezuelan people very well. Because
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: of that, I've voted for a long time. And they're
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: unbelievable people. The area is such a successful area. Everybody
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: is successful. It's amazing. They say have houses for sale
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: for more than three days. This thing wrong. I mean
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: a house if somebody wants to sell the house, they
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: sell in just a matter of moments. People love the area,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: and I got to know the people. Well, they're incredible people.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: And they were treated horribly by Maduro.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: And are those kind of immigrants that you do want
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: to see in America?
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Well, they well, they certainly contribue.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: I want to see people, Yeah, I want to see
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: people that contribute. I don't want to see Somlia. I
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: don't want to see a woman that you know, marys
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: a brother to get in and then becomes a congressman,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: does nothing but complaining. All she does is complain, complain, complain,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: And yet her country's a mess, you know, it's one
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: of the worst in the world. Let her go back
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: fix up her own country. So no Somalia. Yeah, and
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I was right about it, you know, I started complaining
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: about Somalia long before the scandal. The horrible, the horrible
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: things they're doing to Minnesota. It's incredible they have any
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: competent governor there too. The Democrats are running some bad ships.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Speaking of ships, I do want to talk about the
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: boat strikes. The Defense Secretary. Should he testify Pete Hegseth
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: under oath before Congress about that controversial second strike on
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: the Ledged drug boat on October.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I don't care if he does. He can if he wants,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I don't care. Do you think he should, I don't care.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: I would say do it if you want. He's doing
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: a great job. Have you watched they stopping I watched everything.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I watch everything.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: I see a lot of things.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: And do you believe that that second strike was necessary?
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Well, it looked like they were trying to turn back
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: over the boat. But I don't get involved in that.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: That's up to them. The admiral that did that is
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: a highly respected as you know, a highly respected man,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: and we save twenty five thousand people. Every time we
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: knock out a boat, on average, they killed twenty five
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: thousand Americans. So you know, I don't like doing that.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: But the drugs coming in through the sea are down too,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: They're down by ninety two percent, and I'm trying to
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: figure out the eight percent. Who are they. Nobody wants
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: to drive boats to America loaded up with drugs anymore, Well,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: I do want to ask, and we're going to hit
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: them on land very soon too.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Almost all though listed fentanyl in the United States is
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: actually produced in Mexico using precursor chemicals from China, according
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: to the DEA, and Venezuela isn't a significant source or
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: transit country for Fentanyla barely appears on the DEA's trafficking assessments.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Well, they do send lots of drugs. Those boats come
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: in largely from Venezuela, so I would say that's a
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: significant And you can see the drugs. You can see
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: these bags all over the boat.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I mean just bags drugs.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: But let me tell you what they do do. They
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: send really really bad people into our country and they've
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: done it better than anybody else. They emptied their prisons
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: into our country, and these prisoners are seriously tough. They
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: entered all of their prisons have been emptied into the
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: United States of America. Murder is eleventh, eight hundred and
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: eighty eight.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Not making sure Maduro sees justice.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Then eleven thousand, eight hundred and eighty eight murderers were
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: entered into a country, and stupid Joe took all those people.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: And now we're getting them out. We're finding them. We
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: found a lot of them, and we're getting them out
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: or we're putting them in jail. Some are so dangerous
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: and so bad that we don't want to put them
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: back to their country because they'll find a way to
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: get back in. But these are stone called murderers. But
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: every time we knock out a boat, we saved twenty
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: five thousand American lives.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: So would you consider doing something similar with Mexico and
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Colombia that are even more responsible for fentnel trafficking.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: In the US?
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Sure, you pardoned former Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez and
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: let him out of prison even though he was convicted
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: in a massive international drug trafficking scheme. How is that
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: zero tolerance on drug trafficking?
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know him, and I know very little
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: about him other than people said it was like an
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Obama Biden type setup where he was set up. He
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: was president of the country. The country deals in drugs,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: like probably you could say that about every country, and
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: because he was the president, they gave him like forty
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: five years in prison. And there are many people fighting
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: for Hontders, very good people that I know, and they
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: think he was treated horribly. And they asked me to
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: do it, and they said, I'll do it.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Do you think I could send the wrong message to Dealer?
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: So look, I think you know when you weaponize government.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: They have weaponized their government, just like they did over here.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I'm one of the people that survived, but they weaponized
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: the government. We had the most weaponized government. Our election
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: was rigged. They went after me. I was impeached twice,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: I was indicted. They indicted me. I came out good.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Here we are in the White House. Things are looking nice.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: But they were vicious, and they are vicious. They're sick people.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about foreign policy. You've spent a
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: ton of your first year focused on those conflicts around
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: the world, and that has led to some concerns, even
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: from your own supporters. There hasn't been enough focus on
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: some of the issues here at home. I know that
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: this week you're going back out on the trail, giving
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: me flashbacks of covering your rallies here. You're hitting the
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: road to talk about the economy. I wonder, sir, what
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: grade would you give your economy right now?
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Before I answered that, let me just tell you so,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I've watched stupid people like Marjorie Trader Green, or some
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: people call it Taylor Green. Some people call her Taylor
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Brown because green sometimes turns to brown, which isn't nice.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: But I've watched her say that he spends too much
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: time on foreign well by doing that, and first of all,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: it doesn't take a lot of time. I made one trip.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: I brought back trillions of dollars. On that one trip.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I stopped in Japan, I stopped in South Korea, I
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: met with President She and then.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Went to the Middle East. I was on that trip
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: with went.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: To the Middle East. I brought back three trillion dollars
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: from the Middle East. I sold many Boeing airplanes on
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: that trip, like three hundred. When I go on a trip,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I only have one place in mind, it's the United States.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: So when you know people with low IQs like Marjorie
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Taylor Green, she's a low IQ person when she says
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: it's too but she was a loyal person until I
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: wasn't able to answer phone calls because I'm just too
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: busy to answer people's phone calls. You can't call me
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: three times a day, and it's just, you know, not appropriate.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: When I have you know, over two hundred Congressmen, fifty
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: three senators, two hundred and twelve countries. You know, all
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: of these people are calling and a family, actually the
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: family suffers as sort of for me to call back
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: the family. But when you think of what I've done,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: remember rare Earth and the problem with magnets and all
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: of these things. I was going to shut down the
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: whole world. I worked it out with President She we
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: have good relationship. I worked at that with Presidency. Very favorable.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: To come back to the.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: You made a statement though, that I devote too much
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: time to outside of the United States. I've made a
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: fortune for the United States by focusing.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: To be clear, that's not my statement, that's just what
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: some of your supporters and some others have said.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Well, then you know, I can't imagine their supporters because
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: I made a fortune and spend very little time. All
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: of my time is spent here. Most of my time
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: is spent here. But when I do go outside, it's
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: only going outside fear. For instance, settling and solving the
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: problem with China, that has a huge effect in the
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: United States, making deals with Japan, South Korea, Indonesia, all
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: of these countries. You're talking about trillions and trillions of dollars.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: So I could, I guess, I could say, let's not
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: deal with anybody. We wouldn't have much of a country,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: we wouldn't have much of an economy. We make a
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: lot of money with these countries. Now. In the past,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: these countries all ripped us off. If you go back
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: during Biden, if you go back during Obama, they were
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: ripping us off like nobody's no country's ever been ripped off.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: That's why we are thirty eight trillion. I mean, we
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: owe it for a reason. But just remember when I
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: had when we had a problem with China. Very recently,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: I was able to work that out. You don't work
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: that out by not talking to people, by you know,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: not answering with the magnets, with the rare earth.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: You're looking to have an impact here back home.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Well, no, no impact. We would have been shut down,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: China would have been shut down. The whole world would
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: have been shut down. So some people would say, don't
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: focus on anything outside of our border. I like that too,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: But I've made trillions and trillions of dollars and solve
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: problems and solved wars. Do you know most of the
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: wars that I solved were solved sitting behind the Oval
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: office desk on a telephone. I think that those are
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: worthy phone calls, even if they didn't impact us, to
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: save millions of lives from another country, and if I
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: can do that easily because they have an ability, are
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: pretty good.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: But I do want to talk about the economy here
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: at home, and I wonder what grade you would.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Give A plus A plus, A plus plus plus plus plus.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Well it's interesting because I talked to a supporter of
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: yours s. Her name is Melanie from Westmoreland County, PA,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: and she loves you. She gave you overall an A
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: plus plus grade. But here's what she said about the economy.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: She said, quote groceries, utility, insurance, and the basic cost
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: of running small business. Keep rising faster than wages. She
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: also says that not enough is being done. Mister president.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: This is one of your supporters.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, good, and I love her because you said I
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: got an A plus on everything. I guess, but she's
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: still worried about KON. But what do you have to
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: understand the word affordability? I inherited a mess. I inherited
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: a total mess. Prices were at an all time high
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: when I came in. Prices are coming down substantially. Look
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: at energy, you and I discussed before the interview. Energy.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Energy has come down incredibly. When energy comes down, everything
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: because it's so much bigger than any other subject. But
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: energy has come down incredibly. Prices are all coming down.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: It's been ten months. It's amazing what we've done. If
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: you think a gasoline a gallon, they had it at
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: four dollars and fifty cents, almost five dollars. You go
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: to some of the states, he had it at six dollars.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: We hit three states two days ago, one dollar and
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: ninety nine cent a gallon. When that happens, everything comes down.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Now everything is coming down with beef. I've just opened
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: that up where beef is going to start coming down.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Pretty substantial.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Consider more carve outs on other goods that Americans find
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: too expensive.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Well, some carve outes you mean from tariffs.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: From tariffs, Yeah, like coffee, like bananas.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Sure, and I've done that already with coffee. They're very small.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Carve outes is not a big deal. But let me
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: tell you about the real economy. We've got eighteen trillion
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: dollars coming into our country. Biden had less than a
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: trillion for four years, and he was heading south. Our
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: country was falling apart. Eighteen trillion because of tariffs. Eighteen
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: trillion dollars is coming into our country, I think because
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: of tariff's and November fifth election. If you want another truth.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: So would you rule out reducing tariffs on any more goods?
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: On some and in some all increase tariffs because you
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: know what happens is because of tariffs, all of the
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: car companies are coming back. You know, we lost fifty
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: eight percent of the automobile business. We had a we
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: had a monopoly in the world. We had everything. And
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: because we had presidency to either Warren smart or didn't
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: have business sense, or their people didn't do a good job,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: they could have kept that. We could have kept the
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: chip market. We had one hundred percent of the chip market. Intel.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: All of these guys, you know, there's a thing. They
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: came in to see me. Intel. They needed something to
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: be done by the government. I said, I'm going to
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: do it, but I think you have to give us
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: ten percent of your company. You know what happened. We
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: made forty billion dollars on that deal. The price went
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: through the roof the United States in about ten minutes.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: I made forty billion dollars. Nobody talks about that.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I want to ask about interest rates because a lot
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: of Americans agree with you that they're too high. You're
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: going to pick a new fed chair soon. Is it
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: a litmus test that the new chair lower interest rates immediately?
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Yes? Well this guy too too. But I think he's
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: a combination of not a smart person and doesn't like Trump.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: But the reason he doesn't with your potential, Well, the
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: reason he isn't like Trump is because I hit him
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: hard because he's doing a bad job.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: And you talk to your potential cannon.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: We're fighting through interest rates. Look, he's a negative, but
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: this country is doing so well again, we have eighteen
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: trillion dollars being invested. Car companies are moving back that
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: left US years ago. AI is coming in at levels
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: never seen before. Factories are opening up all over the country.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Eighteen trillion dollars of investment in the United States. Again,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: with Biden, we would have lost ten trillion dollars. Okay,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: eighteen that's a record, you know, as the second record China.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: China had two trillion. That's a lot too. Have eighteen
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: trillion dollars and that ultimately, you know what, it reduces
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: itself to jobs. You have jobs like you've never seen
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: in the United States before.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I let you by the.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Way, and prices are coming down. Just to talk about affordability,
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: the Democrats love to say affordability for it, but then
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: they never talk about they're the ones that gave us
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: the high prices. I'm the one that's bringing in ad.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: One of the biggest issues on affordability right now is
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: healthcare and Obamacare subsidies are set to expire in a
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, which will lead to higher prices for
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: millions of Americans. I do wonder, mister President.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: You said the word obamacare. Obamacare was conceived by Barackcusay
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: and Obama who knew nothing about.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Help well we're in the situation we're in now where
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: those subsidies will expire. So I wonder in letting those
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: subsidies expire acceptable to you and should America.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: What I want on healthcare is very simple. Obamacare was
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: set up for insurance companies to become rich. Okay, that
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: was why they In my opinion, I think the Democrats
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: did it for that reason. I know that insurance company
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: stocks have gone up sixteen, seventeen, eighteen hundred percent over
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: a short period of time. They've been paid trillions, not billions,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: trillions of dollars. And what I'm saying is very simple.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I don't want to pay them anything. No money for
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: the insurance company, sorry fellas, I know them all. No
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: money for the insurance companies. I want to pay the
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: money directly to the people and let the people get
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: their own healthcare. But you know that the Democrats.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: But in the meantime, I mean two weeks, mister president,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: people will see those premiums go up. So will you
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: tell Congress to extend those Obamacare subsidies?
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: While you I don't know, I'm going to have to say,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: I'd like to get better health care. I'd like to
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: have people buy their own health care, get much better
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: health care. And what I want to do very simple.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I want to give the money to the people, not
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: to the insurance.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Right now, people are buying their holiday President's presence, they're planning.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Don't be dramatic. No, no, here's what I Here's what
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: I want to say. I know, and what I want
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: to do is help them. I want to give up.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: I'm giving them money. I want to give the money
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: to the people to buy their own health care. That's
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: a good thing, not a bad thing. The Democrats don't
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: want to do that. They want the insurance companies to
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: continue to make a fortune. The Democrats are owned by
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: the insurance companies. They want the insurance companies to get
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: this trillions of dollars we spent, we spend, trillions of
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: dollars goes to the insurance companies. I want that money
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: to go to the people and let the people go
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: out and buy their own health care. It works like magic,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: but you know it doesn't want it the Democrats because
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: they're corrupt people, because they're totally owned and bought by
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: the insurance company.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: At this point, most likely premiums will go up and.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: You'll find another well your premiums could go down if
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: you did what I want to do. I want to
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: give them money, ready, I want to give I want
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: to give the people better health insurance for less money.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: The people will get the money, and they're going to
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: buy the health insuran learns that they want.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about one last really important issue.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: You know that works really well, right and you know
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: the Democrats don't want to do it because they want
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: the insurance companies to make all them.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Immigrations are critical to your agenda. I want to ask
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: about what the Pope has said, which is he has
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: called your immigration actions inhumane? Do you take that seriously
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: from that?
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen that, I mean, I mean maybe he has.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: I mean he also didn't like the wall. You know,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: they didn't like the wall. The word. You know, I
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: built the wall that stopped people from flooding, and I
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: didn't put up the wall. I built the wall, the wall.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Nobody talks about that. You know, it's interesting two years ago,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: a year ago, under Biden, this country was out of control,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: millions of people pouring through totally unchecked, totally unvetted. And
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: now we have nobody coming in. We have them coming
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: in only legally, they have to go through a legal process.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Nobody ever talks about that anymore. They should talk about that,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: But I haven't heard any statements from the Pope. I'm
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: sure he's a lovely man. His brother is a lovely man.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: You know his brother. You know his brother is Sirius
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Maga lives in Florida's.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Well, you meet with the other brother.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: I already met with a brother with the Pope.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Will you meet him, speak with him? One more question
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: on immigration. The Supreme Court is going to hear a
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: case that could redefine who is here legally in the
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: United States. I'm talking about the birthright citizenship case. If
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: the court sides with you and ends birthright citizenship, are
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: you going to try to take away citizenship from people
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: who already had it?
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I haven't thought of that, but I will tell
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: you this. The case is very interesting because that case
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: was meant for the babies of slaves, and if you
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: look at the dates on the case, it was exactly
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: having to do with the Civil War. That case was
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: not meant for some rich person coming from another country
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: dropping putting a foot in our country, and all of
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: a sudden, the whole family becomes you know, United States
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: citizens That case is all about slaves, the babies of slaves,
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: and it was a good reason for doing it, and
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: that's all it was about. And people now are understanding it.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: It's been explained to them, and I think the Court
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: understands it too. That would be a devastating decision if
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: we lose that case. That court you've because our country
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: cannot afford to house tens of millions of people that
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: came in through birthright citizenship. When that happened, that was
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: meant for the babies of slaves. And if you look
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: at the exact dates that it was passed, it all
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: had to do with the Civil War and the ending
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: of the Civil War. It's that little period of time.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: And people now are starting to understand.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Do you want to see one of the justices on
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: the Supreme Court retire so you can put in one
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: more before the end of your term?
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Well, the Democrats want to flood the court.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: You know, Thomas is seventy seven, Samuel Alito is seventy five.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Do you want one more on there?
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Well? I hope they stay because I think they're fantastic. Okay,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: both of those men are.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Fantastic Before I let you go, I want to ask.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: I will say this, the Democrats want to pack the court.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: They want to have twenty one justices. That would be
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: a terrible thing for this country.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: The future of the Republican Party. I watched you on
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: all of your campaigns pull together, especially in this last one,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: an unprecedented coalition to win the presidency. You brought in
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: so many new voters to the Republican Party. You chipped
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: away at some of the core bases of the Democratic Party.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Is there anyone else in the GOP that can energize
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: the coalition the way you did?
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I hope. So, I don't know. You never know until
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: they're tested. You know, it's like you jump in the water.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: You can swim with you again, some people can swim
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: and some people can't. You never know. You have to see.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: I think we have a very good bench. I must
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: tell we have a lot of good people. We have
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: a great cabinet. I have a really great cabinet, better
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: than my first cabinet. I had some very good people
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: in my first cabinet. But this cabinet, you know, I
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: have much more experience. When I first came to Washington
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: was interesting. I didn't know anything about any of the people.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: I was in a different I was a very successful
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: guy from New York City, real estate and other things.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, I had a great show and a lot
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: of things, but basically real estate. And by the way,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: I'm fixing up the White House, making it beautiful. I'm
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: doing a great ballroom that they've tried to do for
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifties and all of that stuff. But
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: you never know. Your question is such an interesting question.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: You never really know until they get tested, I hope.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: So, mister President, thank you so much for joining the conversation.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Really appreciate your time.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Thank you appreciate it.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Thank you, sir,