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Overcoming Fear: Lessons from Dr Robb Kelly · Dispatched & Dysfunctional

• Chris Stockton: All right. Welcome back to Dispatch Dysfunctional. This one's a little bit different today. Today I've got Dr. Rob Kelly with me. And ⁓ Rob, I'll be honest. When I looked at your form, there were a few things that stood stood out that I was not expecting. ⁓ police Your your police work, your gang division, your alcohol, losing your family, your sobriety. And that one line that needed to be said is that you had to handle your trauma before you ever got through the police academy. That right there, that's not even a small sentence. That right there is Dr Robb Kelly: ⁓ okay. Well, can't wait to wear these. Chris Stockton: That's powerful. And I wish a lot of more people would understand that. But before we get into all that, before we could get into any before we get into all that and before anyone googles anything about you, who are you? Not the resume version, but the human version. Dr Robb Kelly: Yeah. Yeah. Human version, my name's Rod Kelly, I'm from Manchester, England. ⁓ grew up on the projects, ⁓ i or if English people are listening on the council estates, a very low income family. picked up picked up a my first guitar at the age of three or four. ⁓ I had a musical family, my uncle and auntie were semi pro. You go out weekends and and play gigs and by the age of nine I'm I'm on I'm on stage with them, you know, the little guy in the back playing. So I was wanted to be a pro musician and ⁓ you know, grew up Manchester and then ⁓ great family, loving family. And then twenty years ago, after everything that I'd been through happened, I came over to ⁓ Dallas, Texas for three weeks and never went home. And here we are twenty years later. Chris Stockton: ⁓ wow. So you're in Dallas now? Dr Robb Kelly: No, I'm in San Antonio now. Chris Stockton: Okay, well not that's not very far di different. Dr Robb Kelly: No, so four years ago we decided I met I met my wife eleven years ago, we got married ten years ago, and I always told her that one day I we would move to ⁓ San Antonio where our family's from and four or five, six years ago, ⁓ that's what we did. So yeah, we're in our forever our dream home, we we have a great life today. Chris Stockton: That's awesome. I love the river walk down there. Dr Robb Kelly: ⁓ yeah, yeah. That's it's funny 'cause every time somebody comes to visit, we we do the well I have a restaurant now. ⁓ it used to be down the river where we go to this English ⁓ cafe. ⁓ but next door to my office I open a a British restaurant. So we start the British restaurant next door I feed them and everything, fish and chips and stuff and then we go down to the river, we get on the boat, we do the boat stuff, so yeah, it's pretty cool. Chris Stockton: I love it down there. My dad's actually from San My Dad before we passed, ⁓ he he was from San Antonio and ⁓ we visited family there a lot. It it was nice. So I know when you filled your form out, ⁓ you actually thought about it and that was awesome because a lot of people just fill it out like they're going to a damn conference. But you, yours was like, hey, I've been through hell. I'm willing to talk about it. Let's talk about it. Dr Robb Kelly: ⁓ wow. Love it. Chris Stockton: So what made you say yes to this show and what made this worth feeling what what made this feel worth talking about? ⁓ can you read my own writing? Dr Robb Kelly: ⁓ yeah. ⁓ I've been on thousands and thousands of podcasts. I think I'm on Rogan in ⁓ September. They're all they're frost friends of mine. Yeah, Garrett ⁓ Crant all them all them guys if they've circle I'm mixing. ⁓ so the secret is is Courtney, my media director, ⁓ she goes out and she scours the internet for people that are changing the world on podcasts. Chris Stockton: Wow. Dr Robb Kelly: And then and then we humbly come to you and say, you know, if any chance of coming on podcast, ⁓ we don't care if you've got one follower or a million, it makes no difference to us. But yeah, so you know, thank you for changing the world, first of all, because that that's what she, you know, that's the only people we choose nowadays. And we and we turn 15 podcasts down a a month. ⁓ but we find those people are changing the world and and that's what I'm all about. You know, if we if we can I I I very rarely do I promote anything on the on podcasts, I don't box with nothing. Chris Stockton: ⁓ wow, it's a water. Dr Robb Kelly: It's just that if we can save a life today, if we can save a vet suicide, if we can save somebody gonna commit suicide or check heroin to death or drink themselves to death or depressed or we've done our job today, so that that's why we're here. Chris Stockton: One hundred percent. And and you know, the the whole statistics behind suicides and first responders and veterans and i it it's so overlooked and such a tragedy every day. You know, I don't I don't remember the statistics but I I believe it was what one every forty five minutes or something like that. Dr Robb Kelly: Yeah. Yeah. That's that sounds about right. I would th that's the only thing that upsets me in America. Every I'm American now. I became a a citizen some eight years ago and I take it very seriously. ⁓ but that's the only thing I have about the about the the country is the way we treat our vets. It's just ⁓ yeah, it's it's I don't know, man. We do everything we can. We do we we go to ⁓ you know, places where we teach vets about PTSD and and stuff like that. So I'm all for them. We donate really heavily. ⁓ to veterans ⁓ here, me and my wife, probably about two hundred grand a year out of our own pockets. We we donate to different yeah places because I'm all about that man. I I love the way America works. I love the way their guys fought for us and I hate seeing my homeless on the streets because I've been homeless myself. ⁓ and it's no fun. So I'm the guy always giving money out to to these guys and and you know I I stopped the other day at the s at the traffic lights, it was on red. And there's a guy there collecting and ⁓ I I'd seen him a couple of times before, so he came over, I give him, I don't know, twenty dollars or something. ⁓ and my friend next to me said, ⁓ you know what he's gonna do with that, don't you? And I replied, Well, I fucking hope he's gonna buy alcohol and drugs, because when I was on the streets, that's what I would have done. What he does with my twenty dollars is no concern of mine. You know, but i i I know I'm I'm trying to give back as as much as I can and ⁓ you know, it's it keeps me that side of of life where I wanna be. Chris Stockton: I and I I bet on that note too is you know, when you see someone like that, you like you said, you were homeless for a minute. So when you see someone like that, I bet it does bring PTSD back to you as well and and you're trying to help change their lives so they don't have to deal with what you've dealt with, I'm sure. Dr Robb Kelly: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's ⁓ every time I see somebody my heart goes out because I've I've been there. I've been there when people spit on you. I've been there when people walk over you after being passed out. I've been being disgraced by society. ⁓ you know, I know what what they're feeling like. ⁓ when I when I was on the streets, I I met vets, I met doctors, I met surgeons ⁓ that I've just kind of, you know, gone through a rough patch and all of a sudden they find themselves homeless and it's a it's an array of people. So automatically when I see somebody. I mean I'm a doctor for God's sake. I was homeless. Sat next to this surgeon and were begging for money. Yeah and you wouldn't even believe that scenario could happen. So when I see someone on the streets, I don't go to ⁓ my God he's given up or he's he's got a problem with drugs and everything. It's like shit happens to families, you know, families break up. I mean you've only got to look at the cost of living today. ⁓ I don't give a shit about politics. I'm not getting into that. But you know it's hard Chris Stockton: Yeah. A hundred percent. Dr Robb Kelly: I've seen a lot of people having to give up mortgages, rent, you have to move into a little apartment or go to the food bank and the and and you know, we we have a non profit and we and we do as much as we can, but yeah, it's it still hurts. Chris Stockton: Man, you do a lot of awesome things. That's that's amazing. Dr Robb Kelly: I think I think it just goes back to the my bringing up and my and my stuff I went through myself. I didn't see my kids. I took ⁓ the authorities took my kids off ages one and three or two and four around that age. But yeah, it's just like why for me anyway, is why would I not do that? Why why why I all all my offices around the world, we have five offices around the world, ⁓ they get something like I don't know what it is, something like a hundred, two hundred dollars a month that we keep in the safe. And If that $200 is not used up during that month, as in giving, donating, blessing people, then that comes out of their wages. So in other words, you have to you have to give that away to somebody. ⁓ Novets ⁓ we we have a breath box thing that we do. It's a software that changes, works on PTSD, but no Novet pays with that stuff while I'm around. You know, it's just it makes me it makes me it makes everything I've been through worthwhile because I know what it's like. for a smile, a good morning, a five dollars, ⁓ five pounds back home. It changed it changed my world right there and then and and why would I not do that? In fact actual fact I w I was I was dating my wife and this is why one of the reasons why I married her. She didn't really know what I did. We're on our second date. ⁓ we're down the ri ⁓ we're in Dallas somewhere and I take her to a restaurant. We come out, we both got little doggy bags and leftovers and stuff. And we're walking through and we passed a homeless guy. And he was an older guy. And ⁓ we had all these bags around him. And ⁓ he didn't say anything, but we walked past and she stopped. And she turned around, she went back to him. Now, bearing in mind, she doesn't know what I do right now. She went back to him and she said, Would you like this food? And his eyes lit up. And she took the food down and gave it to him. And and I thought, Wow. Wow, that's a girl I'm gonna marry. And I told her that that night on the second day, and ⁓ within nine months, ⁓ we were married. It's like I surround myself with people that give. I surround when it's money or time or whatever these podcasts, whatever it is, ⁓ I surround myself with them people. And he and if you're so inclined not to do that, then I got no time for you. So that that I mean that people go, ⁓ you shouldn't do that. I I I don't give a shit what you think about me and I don't give a shit what your opinions are. Chris Stockton: Right there. Dr Robb Kelly: This is the way that I give back. God's bless me with earning, you know, a a great living. So twenty twenty-five percent of whatever we earn goes back as well. That that's that's ⁓ business. So we we we we do that with our own s our own money, first of all. But apart from that, twenty five percent of what we earn and we're a multi million dollar company, I own five companies, ⁓ goes back into, you know, helping the people. It goes direct to them. We don't we don't we don't do charities, we're You know, we'll take somebody off the streets, we'll put ⁓ in an apartment for twelve months, we'll we'll pay for the, you know, the visit to courts so he can see his children once a week. That that's the kind of stuff. We'll we'll buy him a cheap car so he can run around, we'll look for a job for him. It's stuff like that that that we do. ⁓ and and the rest of the shit pays the bills, Chris. That's the way we look at it, you know. Keeps life happy bills. Chris Stockton: That's that's fucking awesome. That is awesome. I would love to work for someone like you. Dr Robb Kelly: I know everybody says that. It's like most of the people I've treated now now working for me. But yeah, I it's crazy when you when you really find out what we do and what we stand for. I I like to think that it touches people's hearts. I mean, like my restaurant, you know, only yesterday, two a man and a man and wife called, they're down on the lock, they're homeless, that is homeless shelter in San Antonio, and they just called because they'd see me on a podcast and they didn't want anything, Chris. They just said We want to call you, you changed our life, you know. We're we're actually going through some rough times right now, but that's okay, man. We just didn't so I said, Where are you? So I got a taxi ⁓ o Uber to pick ⁓ up and I brought ⁓ down to my restaurant and I gave ⁓ every single food they want. And we gave ⁓ bags of food to leave and desserts and chocolate. And then yeah, we took ⁓ back, you know, to where they was. But just shit that I do, man. It it makes me happy and I know, you know, God saved me off the street. So it's my duty. Chris Stockton: Man, that's that's amazing to see and like I said, reading your stuff, you've worked in the gang divisions, you've done you know, you you you became an addict yourself. There's just so much. You know, you your your wife took your kids. There there's just so much that you have done and now you're trying to better yourself and better everyone else around you. I I'm I'm I I guarantee you that that's helping your own mental state too. And Dr Robb Kelly: A hundred that's why I could become on your show, Chris, because she sees somebody who's doing the same. She's just somebody who who values other people's lives. You see, I don't want something from you. I want something for you. There's a difference there. There's a huge difference. And, you know, what my kids were taking off me. ⁓ so I stabbed my wife three times one night because she won't let me finish my bottle of vodka. That's when people started. Yeah. So I fled to Spain. There was an attempted murder charge out on me. Six months later they dropped the charges. Chris Stockton: ⁓ wow. Dr Robb Kelly: ⁓ back in England, if you drop charges, the police can't prosecute unless you kill somebody. ⁓ so ⁓ I came back home and ⁓ you know, a few days after that she left with the children and I got the kids back ⁓ a day or two later because of my attorney. and I was drunk for two or three days, never fed the kids or or changed diapers and and they took ⁓ off me. And the last thing my daughter said to was, Daddy, Daddy, please stop drinking. And I couldn't Chris Stockton: So were you a police officer at this time? Dr Robb Kelly: ⁓ I'd been fired from the police ⁓ some years ago. So when I come out of college, that's a story in itself. yeah, I only lasted about nine months in the police force and they fired me for being drunk every day. Yeah, I I just I I just can't stop Chris. You know, and and it kind of it miffs me today. With all the research we've done, we've probably done about two million dollars on research. So we're kind of the number one guys. I write for Harvard, I'm on TV, I have books and all that. Chris Stockton: ⁓ wow. Dr Robb Kelly: But we put so much into research because we knew that the brain wasn't hardwired. We knew that we could change the brain. I knew this from when I was homeless, something happened to me. And I knew that that the brain could be changed and developed into a different lifestyle. ⁓ and, you know, the daddy daddy please stop dr ⁓ drinking stuck in my head. And you know, I I tried so many times to to contact my two daughters, Charlie and Abigail. And then about five years ago, we're in San Antonio, just been here about a year, so it was six years ago, I got a message in the middle of the night. And I'm doing all this stuff in the background and I'm helping people and I know God's seen this and one day, one day. I kept telling people I'm s I was sixty two. Yeah, sixty one ⁓ at the time and ⁓ in the middle of the night, ⁓ so I'm a conscience doctor. I only I only treat four patients of movie stars and high profile people. But the re the rest of my staff deal with people like me, every everyday people. But ⁓ it was Charlie, my eldest daughter. And she and I was in the middle of the night, so I'm I'm squinting at this message on on Facebook and the first two words that she wrote was, Hey Dad. Call me dad. ⁓ Chris Stockton: That hit deep. Dr Robb Kelly: Yeah. So she said, Hey, I've seen you on TV. I'm sick of what everyone's telling me. I need to see you. I'm sorry it's been so long. ⁓ I have something to show you. When can you come over? Well, we have people around us as you can imagine. ⁓ within seven hours we're on well, four hours maybe, we're on the plane back to England. We stayed in a hotel around the corner from her house and the walk to the house, I was crying, I couldn't stand up, I was all that Shit came back, shit father, da da da. And we got to the door. My wife was holding me up and I'm sobbing. And I said to my wife, I can't do this. And I was just about was going to turn around. Charlie opened the door and we hugged and we cried. And I said it was about an hour. My wife said it was a minute. But it's just in the moment it felt. But she took me by my hand. And this is where I know that all the stuff I did behind the scenes, I don't give a shit whether people know or not. ⁓ she took me into a living room and she handed me my three month-old granddaughter. And right there, and then I knew that I was doing God's work and I knew that I can't stop this. But right there, Chris, I said it out loud when I hold in ⁓ Alice, my big my granddaughter, that if God wanted to take me now, I'm good. I'm fucking good, man. Because you can't give me anywhere else to cap that. No money can buy that, no status, no nothing. You know, whatever you surround yourself with, toys, big houses, cars, and nothing could have replaced. Chris Stockton: Awww. Dr Robb Kelly: The first ten seconds when I was holding Alice in my in my hand, in my arms. Chris Stockton: It you know, in and in my mind that probably that was probably just a big release for ⁓ a major release of endorphins as well, but just a big release in your own mental state because you were probably beating yourself up for years and then you seeing that little baby. Dr Robb Kelly: Yeah. Absolutely, you know. But it's funny though because ⁓ my daughter, ⁓ we sent her back to school 'cause she wanted to do what we do. And she's my lead therapist in my Manchester UK office. Chris Stockton: That is fucking cool. Dr Robb Kelly: ⁓ right. So w ⁓ many times, you know, the the alcoholic will come or the addict or depressed or PTSD, we we treat everything to do with mental health or come. And ⁓ the daughter comes on as well 'cause we insist, you know, if you're married then the the partner needs to come on for two days while you do seven days. But anybody over the age of eighteen needs to come on who's still living in the house. And often I get to work with the father and my daughter gets to work with his daughter. And it's the cooling yeah. Chris Stockton: ⁓ wow. That's that's that's amazing. I mean that that's G I'm not sure where to follow up from that one. Dr Robb Kelly: Yeah, it's ⁓ it's it's I've not yet stopped and looked back on my life, Chris, to be honest. I know I'm blessed, I know I'm doing some good stuff, but it's like anywhere when you get to a certain point in any career that you choose where it becomes a lonely place. You know, people think you already know that you're good enough and and really I will always struggle with that. I will always have the imposter syndrome. No matter how much I worked on myself, it's better today's about two percent. It used to be a hundred percent. ⁓ Chris Stockton: True. Dr Robb Kelly: But yeah, I mean it's just ⁓ that life is it's been crazy. And ⁓ I I remember when I met my wife eleven years ago, I I was out the industry, I got so dismayed because I'm telling everybody the brain's not hardwired, and they're saying you're crazy and you know, therapists were crazy, doctors were telling me I was wrong, the the board ⁓ licensee board stripped me of my licence to practice because I was talking woo woo. Yeah, it was I just lectured to those guys today, by the way. Chris Stockton: Damn. Dr Robb Kelly: It took me six months to get to get it back. And so when I met my wife, I'm like I'm driving a car for a pest control company as a sales guy. And I tell them these stories about all the famous people and the stuff we've been through and I'm sure she thought was, you know, making all this shit up. And then ⁓ I got a phone call of a treatment center one day and they asked for me. They called me Dr. Rob and I'd not heard that for years. And ⁓ yeah, it so I decided to take that job that there was a patient in there that needed my help. So I started with that and then, you know, a few years later I get she gets to introduce to all these amazing guys that, you know, movie stars and and homeless people and musicians and bartenders. I mean, th the life we lead is when you're flying around on a hundred and twenty million dollar jets, it kind of you know, I come from nothing. I I I have to check myself sometimes. I remember the first time I went, I got all cocky and look at me and you know, I d I remember saying to to to my wife, ⁓ I came off I came off a I was doing a T V thing that was regularly on, I think it was the doctors, and I came off stage and I said to her, Where's where's my chauffeur? And she looked at me and she slapped me across the face. And I was aghast, she's not that kind of person. And she just told me straight, if I ever hear you say that again, that you're entitled or you're somebody, this marriage is over. And it really grounded me. And she keeps me grounded now and the people I have around me keep me grounded. I mean, I'm Rob Kelly from the streets, you know, I've nothing special. It's just that I've devoted all my work in life to and my work that I've done ⁓ to helping other people and you know, it mak it makes me happy, joyous and free and you know, to do my part again. Because the biggest compliment I get is when patients come on board who hasn't don't already know about me and they go, You're an alcoholic and a drug addict? Yeah, right? 'Cause I don't look like that today. But when I show ⁓ pictures like they're ⁓ my God. So yeah, we we live life, you know, ⁓ twenty four hours at a time 'cause that every twenty four hours the brain resets. It's not an it's not an AA thing. It's twenty four hours a time is living in the now. When we live in the now we can have anything we want and do anything we want. It's when we start thinking about tomorrow or yesterday does the anxiety and the depression come. Chris Stockton: So you know, on that note right there is do you ever have cravings ever ever again or? Dr Robb Kelly: No. So so the compulsion to drinking use was taken away. And ⁓ I don't I mean, now and again ⁓ my wife will have a glass of wine at dinner with the party or something. I can pour the wine. My my sister drinks when they come around, we get drinks in for her, but it it's just not for me, you know, it makes me it makes me ill. When when I drink it, it's ⁓ I'm allergic to the ethanol and alcohol is the way I pour it. ⁓ because if I was to go, you know something I think I'll have one drink, ⁓ I'd I'm out. I'm out for six months and I probably won't get back. I'd be in Vegas somewhere, I'd go through millions of dollars, I I'd be dead. ⁓ not as if I I never fight that feeling, it's just that if I ever did, no doubt. Because ⁓ the real alcoholic and drug addict, when they take the first drug or alcohol, you you can't stop. So so so if you if so the alcoholic is branded around. ⁓ you know, John round the corner, he drinks two bottles of vodka, he's an alcoholic. Well. Alcoholism is the only self-diagnosed illness in the world. Alcohol has one percent to do with alcoholism. Drugs have one percent. Sex, food, porn, PTSD has one percent to do with what happened at the time. ⁓ it's not the problem. The problem is is how the brain has reacted to that and put you in a position that's made you feel unsafe, that a cra craving every day, that that's you know, running around trying to chase the life back and it you just get deeper and deeper and that's when the suicides and the deaths come. Chris Stockton: Wow. That's okay, I didn't know that. That's Dr Robb Kelly: Yeah, it's one of our biggest findings when we we researched the brain for so long and ⁓ we found out with alcoholics that three parts of the brain differ to any other human being in the world. Yeah, that's why I said disease. It's mainly to do with the hypothalamus, which is our survival part of the brain. ⁓ certain so we're born alcoholics are born drug addicts and made. So alcohol we ch we trace back to to a fetus level with with the alcoholic gene, even though it it's not well known because that goes back into ⁓ the taxes that we pay on bed and alcohol and all that shit, you know, if if that was common knowledge, we're trying to make it called knowledge ⁓ common knowledge for the last five years, ⁓ people still debate that, but it's true. You know? So if we if we can ⁓ if we can look at the brain and the mind and not the alcohol or the drugs, then that's when the real healing starts. So we can cure addiction. We cure any addiction. We cure PTSD, depression anxiety, we cure, we tell you, if I don't I'll give you money back. We're s we're there any company in the world that does that. We can't cure alcoholism because of the hypothalamus. So the hypothalamus is in a survival part of the brain. Well with alcoholics at a certain point of their drinking career like me, the hypothalamus turns round and tells the prefrontal cortex our decision makers to drink alcohol to survive. So that's when wives and kids and everything go bye bye, when I'm concentrating when the brain's telling me you have to drink alcohol to survive, and if you don't drink alcohol you're gonna die. That's why it's a disease, because we have no control of ⁓ when we relapse or not. It's it's not a choice that we have. And it cho when it comes to drug addiction, that's the addictive personality. So ninety seven percent of of ⁓ addicts that come to us started in the doctor's office. So there's that there's a you know, it it's really it's simple but complicated to educated when when everyone's been brought up on the same mentality that You're an alcoholic and you're dying alcoholic and you're a drug addict, then you know, if you if you would try and make any change to that, I wrote a ⁓ a piece ⁓ for Harvard University's ⁓ site ward, McLean Hospital, and it explained it in detail that, you know, this is what we're known for, this is what we believe. ⁓ we have all the research and ⁓ we have a almost a hundred percent success rate with money back guarantee. You pay to come here. If you relapse while still following our programme or get depressed or anxiety or PTSD, I will refund every dime you've put into my office. Nobody else does that. Why? Because it's it's an industry, man. It's a money making industry. Me and you you have to pass an assessment to get to to come on as a patient. We don't we don't take anybody. Now me and you could call a hundred treatment centres right now, PTSD clinics, everything. The first question they're gonna ask you do you have insurance? If I say yeah, I'm in. Chris Stockton: No. ⁓ sure. Dr Robb Kelly: N not here. We don't take insurance for one. And secondly, I'm not just taking you because mommy and daddy's got a big checkbook and I know that I can't change you. And I'm not taking you on because you know, people promised my mum and dad all the world and we spent a fortune on on my treatment and it didn't work because they wasn't see they wasn't teaching you anything. You can't just say alcoholic and depressing just stop. Just, you know, stop drinking, stop being depressed. It it doesn't work like that. Chris Stockton: They have to want to be healed. That's the thing. Dr Robb Kelly: Gotta you've gotta want you've gotta not only want it on, you've gotta be prepared to do the childhood trauma, which is the gateway drug, ⁓ the deep work on yourself. And you know, when I talk about childhood trauma, people think it was the plane crashes, the car crash, the divorce. ⁓ no. That's one percent to do what's really going on. It's the deep hidden stuff either you know about but you take into the grave with you, but most of the stuff is stored in the subconscious brain, so you don't even know about You just know that your life is miserable, you can't keep a job, you can't keep a partner, your your life's gone to shit and you can't get it back. I mean, that's all you know, but it you know, w we we cure that stuff, because there is a cure for that stuff. And it's changing the brain and the mind ⁓ in such a way that that only good can happen going forward because the negativity of the s ⁓ neural pathways. So if three hundred neural pathways die every day, which they do, what are we replacing them with? Is the question we ask people and it's all the repeated patterns of The depression, the childhood, the rape, the molestar, whatever it is, they're repeating that. Whenever they see something that triggers them off, they're repeating that and it becomes part of the thought pattern. When it we need to change. So 300 neural pathways die. What are we replacing them with? Well, we have to start replacing them with our program, with our new thoughts, with expecting great things to happen every day and not getting up, you know, doom and gloom that ⁓ today's not gonna be good because I've got I've got to tell I hear this all the time. I've got to take the kids to school. Let me stop you right there. You get to take the kids to school. Do you want to know how many how many people I know that would give their right arm to be able to take their child to school because they can't have children? You know, it's perspective on life. Get your shit together, you know, be a mum or a dad, do your duties and and get your life together. It's not that hard from our perspective. It seems impossible from their perspective, but it's not. You know, there's there's help out there and and we have the solution. Chris Stockton: That's awesome. So I guess one question on that is what is a good way to start to for for PTSD, for instance? I know you're you have secrets and stuff that you can't give out, but for instance, you know, what is a easy thing for someone like myself to do to try to overcome it? Dr Robb Kelly: The first thing I I tell people is start dialogue. Most people with with illnesses and and and ⁓ PTSD and stuff like that as are secretive. They isolate. Isolation is the worst that you could do to a human being. ⁓ is start dialogue with somebody and then and then do your research and and find out who's who's who's the leading authorities in in that. And y we'll probably come up, no doubt. But yeah, that's the the second one is making that phone call, yeah. And and What a lot of people know is when they call a doctor or they call here, they, ⁓ yeah, of course, yeah, yeah. No, question the people that you're getting treatment of. Ask them what their success rate is. And then what we have to do is is go back and we uncover, discover, discard of incident or incidents that's happened to them. Most obviously vets have have been in the war zone. And and you have to start working, uncover what it's about, discover the old how it happened and why. and then discard from the memory. So we have software, we have a we have a company called Breathbox that it's a software that changes the brain into positivity and works on the the subconscious brain. You just wear headphones and we do it online. ⁓ but yeah, I mean it's just all sorts of stuff that we can do that other people are not doing because again, this ain't a job. I could retire tomorrow, buy an island somewhere, no doubt. jump on there with my two dogs, my cat, my wife, and just be me, me, me all the time. One of the reasons we do it, and and obviously we'll continue to do it to the day I die, is the information needs to be passed on. But any change in the medical ⁓ fraternity, they they they scowl up because let's face it, the pharmaceutical companies run this country. Run the country. Yeah. So they're too big to find. I I did a an interview with Purdue Chris Stockton: One hundred percent. Dr Robb Kelly: Which one of the big big guys ⁓ were making bad drugs and ⁓ it was a heated live argument. You can go Google guys. ⁓ it was their COO and their financial guy, ⁓ not finite their legal guy. And ⁓ it got really, really heated and they had to cut it. But the very next day they filed for bankruptcy. It's like I don't give a shit. You know, you talk to me about that shit as a You know, that that there's a place when you take the the sub oxens there's a place when you you know you take that stuff, but it's a taper. It's not you if you're sub oxen six, twelve months after you you stop taking drugs, you're still a drug addict and you're still taking drugs. Don't let that fool you. ⁓ but you can't say that yeah. I can and I just did. You know, I I don't argue with anybody, you know, just these are the facts, this is how it happens. You either follow or you don't, you either believe or you don't. I don't give a shit. And I I we have this conversation, Chris, with patients. Like, well, I'm not too sure. And I stopped, I go, hey, whether you c I don't give a fuck whether you come on board or not. Just let me put that out there. I don't give a shit. I'm still gonna go home and eat tonight. You know? I don't give a shit. If you want to come on, you're my guy. If you don't, fuck out the office. I've got what? You want me to try and convince you to come? No. They stopped about fifteen years ago for me. We're we're very blunt, we're very aggressive. ⁓ it's the whole of your life we take over. ⁓ even though it's an hour a day, there's lots of other stuff during the day that we got you going and checking on you, but it's a full commitment and we're we're very, very aggressive on that. ⁓ there's many of time I've told people to get the fuck out of my office and get dragged into the licensing department again, you know. But I just just let me get this right. you told somebody to get the fuck out of your office. That's a complaint. Now I don't believe that. ⁓ no it's true. So eventually I had to walk away from our license about five years ago because we were doing treatment that wasn't in line with normal with normal therapy because you know we we don't believe that. We if nothing changes, nothing changes. And I know you know, I've been going to a therapist ⁓ how long? About four years now. The fuck are you talking about you guys? I what? I don't get it. And then we get the other guys, ⁓ Dr. Robleson, ⁓ I'm so depressed. I go Mrs. Smith, I'm so sorry. How long you've been depressed? Seven years seven. Seven years? ⁓ I I'm so ⁓ my god. Do you take anything for it? Yeah, I take I take ⁓ I take well butyrin, you know. ⁓ yeah. ⁓ how long have you been taking well butrene? ⁓ about four years now. When the fuck do you think it's gonna kick in? Like you're taking the antidepressant ⁓ pill to make you happy. It's not kicked in yet, but you're still taking it. I don't I don't get it. I I don't get it. Well it's the mentality that if we're taking something fr from the pharmaceutical companies Then it must be right. And what I'm telling guys is no, don't believe what your doctor told. What does your doctor know about PTSD and an addiction? He knows nothing. He knows nothing about that. He'll just put you on a drug that the local or big ⁓ companies have got you on, so he gets a backhander. ⁓ you can't say that, Rob. I did. He gets a backhander and off you go. Yeah. I mean, you know, this licensing and legalizing ⁓ marijuana, I ain't got a problem with that, but Mr. Government. Chris Stockton: It's actually public information. Dr Robb Kelly: Explain to people what it is and what it does to the brain. That's all. Let make the choice. It's brilliant. You know? But people don't understand that once you go on certain drugs you ain't you ain't coming off it, man. You ain't Chris Stockton: Very true because it it does redo it from the research I've done, a lot of the medications they give for depression, PTSD, anxiety, all of it, you know, it does rewire your your neurons, you were saying earlier. You know, you lose those three hundred neurons, it's gonna rewire it how it wants to. It's not gonna just say, ⁓ it's gonna be okay. No, no, no, no. You're gonna chemically depend on these new neurons. Dr Robb Kelly: He does. Yeah. I I when I'm when I'm doing ⁓ talks and and conferences, I ask the audience, I go, has anybody been to the doctor for an ailment or disease or illness? ⁓ he's give you a medication for that ailment. You've taken the medication, it's cured the ailment, and you never have taken the medication again. Not one person puts their hand up. And it shocks people. And you go, ⁓ my god, it's like the medical fraternity and the pharmaceutical companies are not there to heal, they're not there to cure. They had to give you stuff that take you away, you know, help you divert pathways and and mood disorders, stuff like that. You're never cured of it. So now you're stuck on that false serotonin for the rest of your life. And your own serotonin is stuck down here because this false one, you can't go higher, and all of a sudden it depletes and you are you are relying on this every day. Well, any pill that we take over a period of time, shelf life, you know, you have to take more and more and that's just the way they've got us, unfortunately. Chris Stockton: And we we get immune to it, you know, and that's the that's the bad thing. I is that becomes the normal and you know, when we become normalized f being chemical dependent, we are addicts in the end. And that's the funny thing about it. If you look at the definition of addict, it is one that cannot live without the substance. But we're on all these medications. ⁓ Dr Robb Kelly: Yeah. I I I believe everyone has an addiction. So ⁓ some are good, some most are terrible. ⁓ but we don't see 'cause it's normalized today. When I when I came when I came to America I used to ask people, you tell me 'cause in England, you can't just go to the doctor and ⁓ tell him what you want. I mean, if God poly me, my old doctor would have battered me to death. ⁓ but I well I found that you know, nine out of ten people that I got introduced over the first couple of years was on medication of some sort. And I'm like, wow, do you you really need that stuff? ⁓ yeah, the doctor says, you know, this this this will cure me. Well, here's my problem. Let's look up depression in the ⁓ American medical dictionary and it says lack of serotonin. That's what depression is. So why aren't we asking ourselves before we go to the doctor why my serotonin is low in the first place? 'Cause there's loads of ways to get a home, including just no normal sunshine and but we're not. We go and we get a false one that that we're stuck on the rest of our lives. And one of our ideals is ask questions, do your research. Two thousand and twenty six. The side effects of this, do I need it? Is there an alternative? It's like, you know, I have a I have a medical doctor that we partner with and, you know, i i he deals with cancer. It's hardcore dealing with cancer and he's seeing some amazing results now. He's a medical doctor and just come out keeps his license because everyone else thinks he's crazy, but he's curing shit in that in that place. He's he's really curing stuff and and that's what we do here, you know. We're always going to be the outsource, we're always going to be the guys that are a little bit crazy, but the we're the ones that are getting results. So after ⁓ I don't know, it's probably eleven thousand patients now or something over the thirty years, with a ninety eight percent success rate, ninety nine, ⁓ we're doing something right. Chris Stockton: You gotta be with them numbers. Dr Robb Kelly: Yeah. And and people, you know, like that's impossible. No, no, it's not. Come and see our research, come and see what we do, and then you'll understand because every patient that starts here, you go, ⁓ d you know, I'm trusting you, Doctor Rowe, but listen, I've been here here here and I've I've spent money here and and and after the first session you go, Holy shit 'cause we're doing subliminal work, you know, we're planting stuff and the minute they come here, we're just doing early research on Alzheimer's. ⁓ And we've seen a thirteen percent increase with four patients that's been everywhere and paid a fortune, thirty percent increase. So we had them tested ⁓ and ⁓ before, we had it tested after the treatment, thirteen percent recalling short-term memory. Chris Stockton: Wow. Dr Robb Kelly: Alzheimer's doesn't kill neural pathways and thought patterns, they just go grey, they go null, they go void, but you can restore them with the right treatment. And again, it's like that's impossible. Well, you've been brought up to say that, of course. If you think it's impossible, guess what? It's fucking impossible. But if you expect great things and and you know the mind there's there's loads of research out there and you know, the the the ⁓ you know different sub ⁓ I can't remember the word, ⁓ where they give you a pill, but it's a sugar pill and you think you got cured. Th there's loads of research out there and it and it's what you believe in and what you're presented and how you train the mind. ⁓ because every disease in the body or every illness in the body comes down to two things, toxicity and deficiency. What am I being poisoned with? And what am I deficient in? And if you were going to have a property test, you would be aghast what you are deficient in. And that's causing depression and heart problems. You know, ⁓ I I have heart problems. ⁓ yeah, it's in the family. I you know, my dad has heart problems, so it's like hereditary. Let me stop you there, buddy. Pass heart disease down from a generation is is is virtually impossible. It's definitely medically impossible. Well, how how'd you get that? I mean it's g generation. It's the methylation that was suffering. So methylation, ⁓ so if I eat something, whatever it is, w it's not used in that source. It's changed to an energy that the body can use. That the body let's call methylate it so the body can use it. So if I if I can't methylate, let's say beans, for instance, if I can't methylate beans, ⁓ there becomes a deficiency in the body. Well, my father was on beans every day because my mum loved beans. So when I left the house, I was on beans every day because my family is easy, it's quick. It's like the methylation of that substance or whatever it is that you're taking, beans or whatever it is that you're taking, can't be methylated. ⁓ There's a deficiency and that's what causes it. And we think it's generational. It's like go and have a methylation test. If if you're serious about your health, I mean, you know, all these lies you're being told. It's the same with addiction. When we started teaching about addiction, that's not that's not true. Because AA said, or my sponsor, or my doctor said, it's like, dude, not the way. Really. Now there are medications that we use if you're on heart medications, let me put a claimer, a disclaimer out there before we get all sorts of fucking lawsuits. If you're on medication, keep taking it. If you're on depression, keep taking it. It's amazing, keep taking it. ⁓ I'm talking about the guys that have not depressed or not had true treatment or not been on medication yet. There's a question ⁓ how we can get them, you know, endorphin. Well, you got dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin, and endorphins. Every single day need to happen. Everybody knows that in the brain to be happy every day. Dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin, endorphin. Okay. But did you know that two of those Chris Stockton: Yeah not. Dr Robb Kelly: most important neurotransmitters, dopamine and oxy ⁓ dopamine and serotonin, are created in the stomach, in the gut. So if you're not eating the right stuff, it's not going to create, and that's why one of the reasons we get depressed. Show me somebody with gut issues and I'll show you someone who's depressed. And vice versa. Chris Stockton: Did not know that. That's that's pretty interesting right there. Dr Robb Kelly: It's like we've only spent forty minutes on it and already it were blowing people's minds. It's like we've done the research. You've got to take your health seriously. I'm sixty five. Do I look sixty five? No, I don't because I'm I'm I'm I'm living what I'm teaching. Do you know? I wanna live to the hundred. It's it's just you know and it's spake expect great things every day. If we I mean, God go back to you for Ford, they'll tell you and ⁓ young. Chris Stockton: You don't like it by the way. Dr Robb Kelly: ⁓ when we think about negative things, negative things will happen. It's the energy we give out. It's f so the energy with the mind is very real, guys. It's very real, but you've got to know that it's not the brain that's making the decisions, it's the mind. Hence the saying, mind over matter. The brain's matter. So if we control the brain first thing in the morning and get rid of the subconscious and interest the conscious, can not the mind control the brain, control the out? Of course we can. There's there's the work that we do, so eventually we we can automatically go into that great positive day where nothing's gonna bother you. Like you could say some nasty things now to me, Chris, but if I don't give you permission that I accept that, that it doesn't bother me. I have to give you yeah, I have to validate what you're saying before it can hurt me. You're a piece of shit. You you know, you do that. That's your opinion. Good on you. You know, what do you think about this, Doctor? I saw a piece Chris Stockton: Very true. Dr Robb Kelly: You know, in the paper that you're done, he said that you're controversial. Okay. It's not a question, it's a statement. Have you done are you done? Are you done? Doc. I stopped doing that shit a long time ago what you thought about it, because at one time, going back about twelve years, I was put into a psychiatric ward 'cause I had a break trying to please everybody and worried what people said and you know, apps and you know, Dr. Kenny's a shit, he's not England from England, he didn't go to college, he's He's he's only four foot tall, he said he's six foot, anything that they can get you on, especially when I went on national TV, ⁓ that they they try and and it's like whatever, dude. Whatever. So and and what really makes me smile is nine out of ten time. So nobody that's doing as good as you or better will ever negatively comment on anything that you do. So think about that, guys. The guys that are commenting are probably the guys after the fourth divorce, back at mom and dad's in the basement. They don't see the kids. And they're giving you advice on what you fucking should do? I don't think so, dude. God bless you. Chris Stockton: That's very true and you know, and that's the that's the funny thing is we all sit there and we judge each other and shouldn't be any of that, you know. I know that's human nature, I get that. But when we're in a field to help others and we start picking at each other, it starts a detrimental effect on everybody around us, like you're saying. You have to let that shit roll off your shoulders. You have to stop letting the people get get at you. And if you need help, seek help. Dr Robb Kelly: Go get help. Yeah, go don't don't be embarrassed. Don't be anything. It's your life we're talking about, guys. One of the one of the biggest ⁓ One of the I've had a few good ⁓ comments. One of the biggest comments that I got ⁓ is when I first got in the industry and obviously we didn't know what we knew today, so you someone was failing. ⁓ and I was telling a friend of mine, a very wise friend, and and he said to me, Rob, it's not about you. I like, what? It's not about you, Rob. Why why are you getting emotionally involved? And this is about other people that you're meant to heal. Fuck are you doing getting all depressed and shit? There's people dying out there, Rob. It's not about you. And I've lived my life on that. It's not about me. All this shit's not about well, look at you, you drive this, you but who gives a shit? If you want a five grand a month car payment, go fucking get five grand a month. That's what I pay. You know, there's a price to pay for everything you have. These Is a when I see a guy in a Rolls Royce or something, I never go, ⁓ my god, he's so lucky. The first question I ask Chris is what has he paid to drive that? Not financially, what has he had to pay to drive that car? Because there's price on everything, man, it's not always monitored. Chris Stockton: Right. And that's the sad thing about it is we all try to meet everyone over meet e expectations and we get these fancy cars, we get these fancy watches and it it's nothing. Like you said, what are you paying in the end for that? Dr Robb Kelly: Yeah. And and and who are you trying to impress? 'Cause that was another one. So yeah, so you know, I I used to drive this four hundred thousand dollar Bentley and four weeks ago I I got rid of it. ⁓ because I heard this podcast and it was some athlete or some ra I think it was a rap star, a young one coming through and he was interested and he said, Well, I've got to ask you, man, he says, You're the only rapper I've ever interviewed with no chains or watches and stuff like that. Chris Stockton: Right. Why are you trying to impress him? Dr Robb Kelly: ⁓ and no gold glasses and stuff and he says, For what? Who am I trying to impress? Am I trying to impress you because I'm wearing this and doing this? Why? And it really hit on with me. It's like I buy this stuff around me because I can afford it. I never go into debt for anything. You know, I work hard, I play hard. ⁓ but there's just some things that I don't really need now. ⁓ as I'm getting into, you know, my later age in life that I've done it. Traveled on the jets, drove the cars, you know Lived crazy life, it's like now we can just spend the rest of the years just purely helping people because I've already done it. So I often tell people today that I have something that's very rare with the human being. And that being, I have enough. I have enough of everything. I have enough. Chris Stockton: And that's the biggest thing is you know, you're able to admit that and and do that and that that's just tremendous, you know, because so many people sit there and delve on things and they try to beat themselves up for no damn reasons. Dr Robb Kelly: ⁓ Yeah, and he and he and he when we sit down with these guys they go, you know, what's well I got this car, why'd you get the car? I Mercedes. Why'd you drive a Mercedes? It's a nice it's a German n why did you drive a Mercedes? And eventually they go I the next door neighbor he's you know, I'm trying to impress him and him. It's like you've got nothing to prove to anybody, guys. You you really haven't and yes and no is a full enough answer. We get we get Or in there. Hey Rob, are you coming to the the the the gig next week? No, no, I can't let me tell you why, because my auntie's uncle's dog, like the dog, it's like, no. Thank you, but no, I'm good. You know? Biggest lesson in life, guys, stop giving a fuck what people think about you. It's very hard to do, but if you do you work you get into a place where you I call study in the sunlight of the spirit. You you can't what are you gonna do to me that I haven't already done myself? Chris Stockton: No, that's it. Done. Dr Robb Kelly: stop giving a fuck what people think about you. It's very hard to do, but if you do you work you get into a place where you study in the sunlight of the spirit. what are you gonna do to me that I haven't already done myself? I I paid a million dollars or over five years for an office and dust. My friend said, How the hell do you sleep at What the fuck are they gonna do to me that I haven't already been through? I I I paid a million dollars or over five years for an office and dust. My friend said, How the hell do you sleep at night? What the fuck are they gonna do to me that I haven't already been through? And to myself, What? They'll take the office off me? I've got to worry about that shit. You know? It always works out in the end. Once you get away from depression, PTSD, alcohol, drugs, sex, porn, food, whatever it is, once you do your work on that, what's the worst thing can happen? Because it never will. Chris Stockton: So I guess one thing too on this that just popped in my head. I don't know why this popped in my head when you're r saying that. ⁓ why is it that a bunch of us in first response and veterans, you know, have this dark humor. ⁓ we don't sleep or the shit, you know, we always drink too much caffeine. ⁓ w why is it always we use the dark humor to cope? Dr Robb Kelly: There's a lesson in animals. So, guys, if you've ever hit a a deer ⁓ on a road but it's not killed, you just hit it slightly, it skidded across the road. ⁓ this is what happens. It's miraculous what happens. So the deer will stay motionless for a couple of seconds and then it'll jump to its feet. What it does next is miraculous. It will shake violently for a few seconds. It's just shock all our trauma off. So we we need to go psychological. So then the next day it could be the same day, same car, same thing. Because he shut that off. Human beings don't do that. So they stuff it down and stuff it down and stuff it down. And then the only release from that is humour around that and they go, ⁓ you've got to do a human in our job. Well of course you do. But when you're taking that if the subconscious brain taking that, you know, whatever you say, because whatever you say eventually comes true, ⁓ it damages people. And that's why people stay in that loop. It's called the basal ganglia in the brain. They stay in that loop of self sabotage. So then we're looking for outside sources to make me feel normal. When you see the stuff that you've seen and and and all the guys out there, ⁓ it's not normal. You should be seeing that stuff, ⁓ and it affects the brain. So if you and we stuff it down. So eventually it comes out in all sorts of weird ways and most of it being relationships and and and stuff like that. They can't keep relationships, you know, you can't they're sick every couple of weeks. It's it's all down to the brain and the chemicals that's been that's been feeded to you. It's it's all negative stuff and you can the placebo effect, that was the word I'm looking for. ⁓ the placebo effect effect is unbelievable. We've done it hundreds, thousands of times here. It's like if you believe you've got that da and we tell you often enough, then you're gonna start believe you've got da da as in positive stuff. ⁓ and everything falls into place and you go, Wow, I I I don't I don't understand what them guys did, but my life's taken up. Of course it has. Because your life's always always been there. So where do we believe that every neural pathway for pan, therefore behavior, for success, for health, for wealth, for you know, is already built in the brain. We just need to connect them. Once we connect them, that's what we do. We connect them neural pathways, there's no coming apart. You can go off the wild hand and start using the subconscious brain more than often and become depressed or homeless again. But once they're built, they're very strong, ⁓ and that's what we need to look at. It's like, can I heal from this? Yes. I don't care what you've gone through, everything's fixable. Now again, alcoholism, you can't he you can't cure it, but you can arrest it for fifteen hundred years, it doesn't make any difference. It's like the quality of life that we have today. Is very important to me. So I'm gonna tell you a news exclusive that nobody knows. Nobody knows, Chris. Yesterday I was diagnosed with prostate cancer. Did I cancel the show? Fuck no. Did I stop seeing patients? No. Has it got me depressed? No. Shit. If it whatever happens, what happened? But I'm not giving it from tomorrow. We have to discuss it today with the family and treatment options. Chris Stockton: ⁓ wow. Yeah. Dr Robb Kelly: But from tomorrow I'm not giving that any power. That ain't happening to me. I'm gonna focus on what I need to do. So if let's say for for goodness sake, in five years' time I die. I want five years of of hundreds of thousands of patients being healed. Because because I believe in God, okay? Yeah and I I because God saved me on the streets. And and I believe that w when I get to heaven, you know what? God's not gonna ask me, how much does that car you were driving? How much is that house you lift in? He's not gonna ask that question, Chris. Chris Stockton: Yes, sir. Dr Robb Kelly: He's going to ask me one question, how many people did you help? How many people did you bring to me? Rob? That's what he's going to ask. And I want a big number. And that's how I live my life today. Chris Stockton: That's awesome. So one quick note before we wrap up. ⁓ just want to throw this out here for everyone listening. ⁓ one of the things I'm working on towards this year is University of Florida Critical Care Program. ⁓ for me it's sharpening the craft, bettering critical care pa ⁓ knowledge, trying to bring it back to my patients, to the crews, and eventually back to the people I teach. So just for everyone listening, I got a support page up at criticalrun dot com. Anyone who wants to support it, ⁓ please do it. About fifteen hundred bucks. ⁓ Dr Robb Kelly: ⁓ yeah. Chris Stockton: No pressure at all, share it if you can. ⁓ just trying to build it forward. So somebody's listening to this and they're still hiding all of it, right? So they're still working, they're still answering cars ⁓ calls, cars. ⁓ They're still wearing the uniform, ⁓ still making jokes, showing up at home, just enough so nobody fully called ⁓ out yet. But they know their the drinking is different now. They know their anger is worse, they the silence is getting louder. Dr Robb Kelly: Yeah. Chris Stockton: They know they're lying to not to themsel not just to themselves but everyone around them. And they're scared that asking for help will cost them everything. What do they need to hear from you? Dr Robb Kelly: ⁓ get help from the right people, talk to the right people. It's not embarrassing, it's not weak. ⁓ strong men stand up and if they have problems, they they they see to it straight away. You can't do this on your own, guys. Especially what you guys who listen to this have gone through. And thank you for your service and God bless you guys. But you can't go through on your own. There's there's plenty of people out there like us, one would imagine. ⁓ but yeah, you you don't have to live like this. You you really don't, you know. You can change your whole life. Because what I would hate for you guys out there. Is to get to the age of let's say 75, look back on your life and realize two things. There's nobody watching you, and you can really do anything you want to do. And when you put that into perspective, that's how I live my life. But nobody's watching me, and God's watching me, no human beings watching me, don't care about me, they've got their own shit going on. And I really can do. We opened a British restaurant in San Antonio, Texas, Tex Mex country. My financial guys and everywhere. Are you insane? You can't open a freaking fish and chip shop and high tea shop in San Antonio. We're in the top twelve. We've only been open three years. We're in the top twelve of restaurants in San Antonio that are successful. There's thirty-two restaurants in San Antonio that's that's gone out of business because of the crisis right now. No one's got any money, nobody's going out as much. But we're we're in there, man. We're in the top twelve percent. It's because you can do anything you want to do and nobody's watching you. Guys, go do it. Chris Stockton: Watch. Dr Robb Kelly: Go do it, man. Date that girl, buy that house, buy that car, do it, man. Doesn't make no difference 'cause we're not promised tomorrow, so Chris Stockton: That's awesome. So if anyone wants to learn more about you or read your studies, ⁓ how can they do that? Dr Robb Kelly: So ⁓ best way is go to the website. So if you're listening and not watching, I spell my name with two B. So it's R-O-B-B-K-E-L-L-Y dot com. ⁓ jump on there, all the socials are there, everything's there. There's a place on there called Breathbox, which is another company with the software we talked about. You can do it worldwide. You just need to be into a computer or iPad or iPhone or whatever with headphones. It's a healing process. It's absolutely amazing. ⁓ we'll give you your first session free. just to prove it's gonna change you. ⁓ but yeah, go and enjoy that there's ⁓ there's ⁓ there's a book out there. So this is the book I've wrote. ⁓ Daddy Daddy Please stop drinking. It's called it's on Amazon. Please don't go buy it off Amazon. ⁓ just ⁓ contact myself or Chris and just said, Hey I was watching the podcast amazing. ⁓ let's give ten bucks away. I'll sign them personally to you. I'll I'll pay for the shipping and everything and It's all free ⁓ on one condition that when you finish with it you pass it on to somebody else that that may need it. Chris Stockton: That's awesome. Th this this has been a great podcast today and I'm I'm privileged to have talked to you today. ⁓ huge thank you for that. Thank you for talking about all of it. And as we said earlier, if you need help, please reach out and get it. You know, reach out to nine eight eight or one of the support groups out there. Let me go ahead and stop. Dr Robb Kelly: Thanks, Chris.