Latest / Clydesdale Media Podcast / Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - The New Games Season and What Happened at Rogue?
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- 0:01Tonight, it's the regular crew.
- 0:04We're doing Sunday night CrossFit talk.
- 0:06Thanks for being here.
- 0:12Welcome to the show, it's time to ignite.
- 0:16Scott's silky smooth voice keeps the vibes
- 0:18just right.
- 0:19Caroline on the mic,
- 0:20wants a star on the ice.
- 0:22Game's athlete so strong,
- 0:24keeps the balance precise.
- 0:26And Jamie's in the house,
- 0:27the engine full of grit.
- 0:29Never backing down,
- 0:31doesn't know the words.
- 0:32When together they bring the fire,
- 0:34never say never.
- 0:36So buckle up, friends,
- 0:38it's burpees forever.
- 0:39Welcome to Sunday, Sunday.
- 0:59you know what time it is sunday sunday
- 1:03sunday night crossfit talk we're back to
- 1:06the normal schedule oh i am i am
- 1:10so whooped from the weekend i kind of
- 1:12am too
- 1:14I mean,
- 1:14I did some extra stuff like around the
- 1:16house and stuff this weekend.
- 1:18Yesterday,
- 1:19I was bragging to you how fit I
- 1:20feel as I've been doing more workouts,
- 1:23losing some weight,
- 1:25and I moved a lot of dirt.
- 1:27I woke up so damn sore today because
- 1:33I was using muscles that I have not
- 1:35used in the gym.
- 1:38And I was trying to do it quickly.
- 1:39I didn't want to be out there all
- 1:41day moving this pile of dirt,
- 1:43so I was moving quick.
- 1:45And, yeah, I was hurting this morning.
- 1:49Oh, boy.
- 1:51Did you at least move a little bit
- 1:52today?
- 1:53I played drums for a while.
- 1:54Okay.
- 1:55All right.
- 1:55That'll help shake it out a little bit.
- 1:57Yeah, I've been working on one song.
- 2:00I want to get it, like,
- 2:00down to where I don't make any mistakes
- 2:02in it,
- 2:02and then I'm going to record it.
- 2:03Because, like, the...
- 2:07The Drumeo app,
- 2:08like they play the track behind it.
- 2:11So it's like a drumless track and then
- 2:13you're just the drummer in the song.
- 2:16And I was about ninety eight percent today
- 2:20on it.
- 2:21So, yeah, I'm excited.
- 2:25I didn't think I would get.
- 2:27I mean, I wanted to try this.
- 2:29I wanted to see if I could pull
- 2:30it off.
- 2:30Did not realize how excited I would get
- 2:32at learning this thing.
- 2:34You're addicted.
- 2:35I am so, so.
- 2:39So Tessa says the solo from In the
- 2:42Air Tonight.
- 2:43I think I could play that.
- 2:44That's actually pretty simple compared to
- 2:47a couple of the fills they've been
- 2:48teaching us the last couple of days.
- 2:53The only thing, the hardest part of that,
- 2:55Tessa,
- 2:55would be playing it slow enough because
- 2:57we're actually learning speed right now.
- 3:00So like to slow it down would be,
- 3:04tough, but someday,
- 3:07someday we're getting hate.
- 3:11I, you know, you know,
- 3:13what's tough is like when all of your
- 3:15friends have teams in the NFC North.
- 3:19Yeah.
- 3:20And so,
- 3:21but like you and I can sit here
- 3:24as winners, right?
- 3:27Yes.
- 3:28I didn't really feel like a winner
- 3:30tonight, but yes.
- 3:33But if you opened up the newspaper
- 3:35tomorrow and looked at the box score,
- 3:36it would say the Lions beat the Packers.
- 3:38You're right.
- 3:40Inch or a mile.
- 3:40Yeah.
- 3:40And it doesn't account for the stress they
- 3:46put you through.
- 3:47It doesn't account for the yelling you did
- 3:49at the TV.
- 3:52I yelled at the TV more than I
- 3:53did during Rogue.
- 3:55And I was yelling at my TV during
- 3:57Rogue.
- 3:58Oh, I was yelling hard this morning.
- 4:00I was, yeah, but yeah, this evening.
- 4:03Guess who woke up at six a.m.
- 4:04to watch coverage?
- 4:07You did?
- 4:08I did.
- 4:08Wow.
- 4:10I'm such an idiot.
- 4:12And then every time I wanted to take
- 4:14a nap,
- 4:14because the Bears didn't play today.
- 4:16So I had like, after Rogue was done,
- 4:18I had nothing that I really had to
- 4:21care about.
- 4:22And every time I would nod off in
- 4:24the recliner,
- 4:25Walter would jump up in my lap and
- 4:27start licking my face.
- 4:29Or Julie would yell at the TV because
- 4:32of the football game.
- 4:32Yeah.
- 4:34And I was like, son of a...
- 4:38I just need a little nap.
- 4:39Yeah, that sucks.
- 4:40I took a little nap after the first
- 4:42event and then woke back up and started
- 4:45the second event.
- 4:50So my morning was I woke up at
- 4:51six.
- 4:52I watched the first event.
- 4:54I taped the F one qualifying from last
- 4:57night because it was on while we were
- 4:58on the air.
- 4:59Watch that.
- 5:01Then watch two or the second and third
- 5:04event of the day.
- 5:05Watch some football.
- 5:06Watch the F one race.
- 5:09Watched your lions almost throw it away.
- 5:13And then came on here.
- 5:18What are these naps that you speak of?
- 5:22Honestly, Trane,
- 5:23I don't know the last time I've gotten
- 5:25a nap.
- 5:26Yeah, I'm not a napper.
- 5:30It is ridiculous.
- 5:31What?
- 5:33I don't ever wake up at six.
- 5:34True, true.
- 5:38I actually,
- 5:40one of my friends and a former coworker,
- 5:43he bought a CrossFit gym here in town.
- 5:47And he goes,
- 5:47you should start coming to my gym.
- 5:50And I was like,
- 5:52where he's located is down by campus.
- 5:54Okay.
- 5:55And so I'm up north of town.
- 5:58I'm like,
- 5:58the traffic to get from me to you
- 6:00is so bad.
- 6:02And he goes, well,
- 6:03just come at like five a.m.
- 6:04or six a.m.
- 6:08Who even does that?
- 6:13Exactly.
- 6:14Like,
- 6:14I can't even comprehend that thought.
- 6:16Isn't Polaris like five minutes from you?
- 6:19Yeah.
- 6:19Yeah.
- 6:21Yeah.
- 6:22And Chalk Dust is like ten minutes from
- 6:24me.
- 6:26And there's actually one even closer than
- 6:28that.
- 6:28I just don't think I'd ever join that
- 6:30one.
- 6:34Meg gets up at five, six a.m.
- 6:36to work out.
- 6:39I mean, props to those people.
- 6:41I just...
- 6:42She lives in D.C., though.
- 6:43You probably have to or you're sitting in
- 6:45traffic for hours.
- 6:50Four fifteen a.m.
- 6:53That's ridiculous.
- 6:56I used to coach five a.m.
- 6:58on Thursdays, just one day a week.
- 7:01I had to like prep myself for the
- 7:03whole week to get ready.
- 7:05Yeah.
- 7:07You.
- 7:08You must go to bed at like.
- 7:10eight p.m like how are you going up
- 7:12watching us right now go to bed yeah
- 7:19same and three forty five for work but
- 7:21you're a cop like you have weird hours
- 7:26yeah four thirty a.m class i didn't even
- 7:31know those existed no i thought that would
- 7:35be like an open gym
- 7:37that would be an open gym like i
- 7:39i question the even having the five a.m
- 7:41at times like maybe moving it to five
- 7:44thirty but there's like a couple people
- 7:46that just doesn't work for but the only
- 7:49reason my the gym i used to coach
- 7:51at at a five a.m is a company
- 7:54and their workers came and begged for that
- 7:56class and promised they would fill it and
- 8:00because of that the donor was like
- 8:02Okay,
- 8:03as long as you keep it at this
- 8:04level.
- 8:05Right.
- 8:06And sure enough,
- 8:07they were there every stinking morning.
- 8:10Like, twenty of them.
- 8:15That's awesome.
- 8:15So, it was awesome.
- 8:17What's crazy is I used to work,
- 8:19I used to be at work at six-thirty.
- 8:22Because I used to work smack downtown
- 8:25Columbus.
- 8:26So,
- 8:26I'd work at six-thirty and I would leave
- 8:28at three.
- 8:29And I would beat the traffic in and
- 8:30beat it out.
- 8:31Mm-hmm.
- 8:32And then COVID hit,
- 8:34and I started working from home where I
- 8:36just have to kind of wheel my chair
- 8:38over to the desk,
- 8:39and I got really lazy about sleeping in.
- 8:48Obviously still a net positive versus not
- 8:51working out,
- 8:51but it takes longer to recover,
- 8:53and old folks need their sleep.
- 8:56Amen.
- 8:57Plus, I've had twelve back procedures.
- 9:00Getting my back loosened up at four thirty
- 9:03in the morning is a job.
- 9:08I don't know how people can go in
- 9:10and lift heavy first thing in the morning.
- 9:13I would I would have to get up
- 9:15an hour and a half earlier.
- 9:17Yeah,
- 9:17I've I've done it a few times in
- 9:19my life,
- 9:20but then something screws up the schedule
- 9:22and to
- 9:23And to get back,
- 9:25it's like you create a habit,
- 9:27and it gets broken for some reason,
- 9:29and then getting back is just impossible.
- 9:34Trish, you are too much sometimes.
- 9:37We've missed you.
- 9:44I had to tell you something.
- 9:45I finished Neatly last night.
- 9:49Nice.
- 9:49I really, really, really enjoyed it.
- 9:52And I really like the main four.
- 10:00And it does appear,
- 10:01the way they kind of ended it,
- 10:03that it's going to be unlike Reacher where
- 10:06they are going to carry people over from
- 10:09season to season.
- 10:10I hope so.
- 10:12I like the two cats.
- 10:15I like the kid a lot.
- 10:17Yeah.
- 10:19I, the backstories on them are,
- 10:21were really good.
- 10:23The writer on that was really,
- 10:24really good.
- 10:26So I know Ed, listen,
- 10:32I joined Hiller fit and then he schedules
- 10:34the Hiller fit call during my show.
- 10:38What the hell?
- 10:38Yeah.
- 10:40Talk trash for us, Ed.
- 10:44Um, Hey, you guys are just crazy.
- 10:48so yeah that was my day and then
- 10:52uh so let's let's finish up rogue let's
- 10:56go let's not waste time tonight all right
- 10:59one if you guys don't know carolyn is
- 11:01not here hopefully she is sleeping well
- 11:05hopefully she has a nice safe play safe
- 11:07flight home but i i do want to
- 11:09say i'm so proud of her i am
- 11:10too like
- 11:14she's a master's athlete.
- 11:15She went in,
- 11:16in the qualifier and she looked like she
- 11:18belonged.
- 11:21And that, that's pretty cool.
- 11:23Cause that, those are big dogs you're,
- 11:24you're playing with at that point.
- 11:26She was holding her.
- 11:26Today was a rough day.
- 11:27I think we all kind of knew it
- 11:29would be, but she was first two days.
- 11:31She was looking great.
- 11:34Yeah.
- 11:35Took a seventh.
- 11:36Yeah.
- 11:37And you know, so she was competing.
- 11:41Um,
- 11:43I actually was getting giddy.
- 11:45I wish they featured her more,
- 11:47but you're probably not.
- 11:50The other people I...
- 11:52Yeah.
- 11:53The other people I have to shout out
- 11:54are Holly Dugan for all of the
- 11:56leaderboards, all of that stuff.
- 11:59And Ishmael East captures on Instagram
- 12:02with all the pictures from Rogue.
- 12:05Got him in over there.
- 12:06He took pictures for us.
- 12:08We got to share those on the Instagram.
- 12:12So shout out to both of them for
- 12:14doing that all weekend.
- 12:16Holly just is so fast at those.
- 12:19And doing Desert City Classic.
- 12:22Yep.
- 12:22I know.
- 12:23She's crushing it.
- 12:25Yeah.
- 12:26She was out a little bit.
- 12:28I'm so glad she's back.
- 12:31Yeah.
- 12:31Miss her dearly when she's gone.
- 12:33And the funniest thing is she texted me
- 12:38because whenever Holly posts,
- 12:40people make comments and then she freaks
- 12:42out that she did something wrong.
- 12:45And so she sends me a text because
- 12:47she put in the times of Rogue.
- 12:50And someone in Arizona tried to tell them
- 12:54that daylight savings doesn't apply to
- 12:56them and that they are... And she's like,
- 13:00what do I do?
- 13:00What do I do?
- 13:01I said, it's one person.
- 13:03Yeah.
- 13:04Like,
- 13:05you are not going to please everybody.
- 13:10So just you did fine.
- 13:13She did great.
- 13:15you you did yeah she did actually great
- 13:18and i used her times because it was
- 13:21just easier for me uh to know when
- 13:24everything was going to be on um so
- 13:31overall any overarching thoughts for today
- 13:38i can say the broadcast to me got
- 13:39worse
- 13:40worse that's what i was to say there
- 13:42were more cameras on the floor yes and
- 13:44there were the other two days way more
- 13:46solo shots what is going on with all
- 13:51of the panning like zoom pan like i
- 13:53felt like i was nauseous sick like if
- 13:57you have epilepsy don't watch rogue like i
- 14:00was gonna have a seizure yeah i didn't
- 14:07I guess I'm used to watching NYPD Blue
- 14:09back in the day.
- 14:12I'm like,
- 14:12can you hold it there for like,
- 14:14twenty seconds so I can get a gauge
- 14:16of who's where and what's going on?
- 14:18Nope, just move.
- 14:18We're moving.
- 14:19And we're moving.
- 14:19And we're zooming in.
- 14:20And we're back up.
- 14:21Don't know what the hell's going on.
- 14:23But like, doggone.
- 14:25I don't...
- 14:28I want to see the people finish that
- 14:30are finishing.
- 14:31Not that have finished thirty seconds ago.
- 14:33Correct.
- 14:35It just, it's so infuriating,
- 14:37and it's so many solo shots.
- 14:40Yeah, kudos to Lightfoot.
- 14:42He was, like, the only one that was,
- 14:43like, he could tell it was on him,
- 14:45and he'd, like,
- 14:45get it back out on him.
- 14:46Yeah, there was very, like,
- 14:50only a couple races, really,
- 14:52and you just keep missing it.
- 14:54Like, somebody, I, the whole finale was,
- 15:00you didn't even get to see the bag
- 15:01toss.
- 15:02Not once did I see Colton try a
- 15:04bag toss.
- 15:06They were showing one person jog the
- 15:08transition rather than show the cool bag
- 15:11toss thing you put in there.
- 15:14I was like, they're not sprinting.
- 15:17They're just adjusting their belt.
- 15:19Do I really need to see this?
- 15:20I don't need to see them on the
- 15:21bikes.
- 15:21That was the last thing that we needed
- 15:23to watch.
- 15:27That whole workout was,
- 15:28could you get the bag over the bar?
- 15:30Correct.
- 15:31And that's what I wanted to see.
- 15:33And we missed it.
- 15:37Um,
- 15:38they treat the event like it's over after
- 15:40the first to finish.
- 15:41I'd even,
- 15:42I'd even argue the first person finished.
- 15:44Yeah.
- 15:46And this is not like,
- 15:47this is not like you have bad athletes
- 15:51in this competition.
- 15:53Every single one of the people in here
- 15:56are known.
- 15:59We want to see them all.
- 16:01It's a showcase of,
- 16:05That's what Rogue keeps telling us.
- 16:07It's by invitation only.
- 16:09It is our invitational.
- 16:11It is a showcase.
- 16:12Then showcase the people.
- 16:18Oh, that's right.
- 16:19The last rep.
- 16:20Yep.
- 16:20The last rep.
- 16:20Finally.
- 16:21No one else was working.
- 16:22Otherwise,
- 16:23we would have seen someone on the bike,
- 16:24and we would have missed him.
- 16:30Yeah.
- 16:32That was really,
- 16:33really starting to infuriate me today.
- 16:36Yeah.
- 16:38I will say this.
- 16:39I don't know if Adrian Conway listens to
- 16:41our show,
- 16:42but he did not rhyme his keys to
- 16:44the races today.
- 16:47So, because I was watching for it.
- 16:53Watching.
- 16:53Watching to see if we're going to get
- 16:54a little rap bar.
- 16:55Yeah.
- 16:55Commentary was all right.
- 17:02It just did camera work.
- 17:03I was, I was struggling with.
- 17:07Yeah.
- 17:07The commentary, I think Adrian solid.
- 17:10Yeah.
- 17:11Right.
- 17:12I'm always going to want other people to
- 17:14get opportunities.
- 17:18Because I think you should never stick
- 17:19with the same person.
- 17:20There's a reason why that like the NFL
- 17:23rotates analysts through the season and
- 17:25different teams.
- 17:27So you get like different voices and,
- 17:30Um, with the CrossFit world,
- 17:32you get the same and it's,
- 17:34and I am in no way saying they
- 17:36are bad.
- 17:37I'm no way saying that I don't like
- 17:39them.
- 17:40I just want,
- 17:41I want other people to get opportunities.
- 17:45I thought Pat Vellner was so refreshing.
- 17:48I like hearing Pat.
- 17:51When I've heard Brent do commentary,
- 17:53I think it's refreshing because
- 17:56I think giving some of these other people
- 17:57opportunities, I have said forever,
- 18:00I think Carolyn would be awesome as a
- 18:02commentator.
- 18:02It would be great.
- 18:06Because you and I both know she is
- 18:09a CrossFit nerd.
- 18:11She watches everything.
- 18:16It isn't... I thought I was a nerd.
- 18:18She goes, like, to another level.
- 18:23Um...
- 18:27Well, we're going to talk about that,
- 18:29Joseph, for sure.
- 18:32So you want to go through the events?
- 18:35Sure.
- 18:36So we started the day with the rope
- 18:39climb, the overhead squat,
- 18:43and the deadlift.
- 18:48Correct.
- 18:49The deadlift was insignificant?
- 18:52Yeah,
- 18:52the deadlift was insignificant for sure.
- 18:58To me, it was as expected.
- 19:02Fine for the guys.
- 19:03Decent enough race.
- 19:07I did not like the programming for the
- 19:09women.
- 19:11Either make it longer or make it a
- 19:13little bit lighter.
- 19:14You got over half the field not finishing.
- 19:17You really made the deadlift insignificant
- 19:19because over the half the field didn't
- 19:20even do the last bar.
- 19:22So it really didn't matter.
- 19:25I did not like
- 19:29And maybe it was just the floor for
- 19:31me.
- 19:32I don't know,
- 19:32but I did not like that overhead squat
- 19:34from the rack and all those racks out
- 19:36there.
- 19:36And maybe that's why, because right off,
- 19:39like I could tell I was going to
- 19:41be annoyed with the camera work today,
- 19:44right off the bat with that event.
- 19:46And I don't know if it's because those
- 19:47racks were in the way and they felt
- 19:48like they needed to get around things.
- 19:50And that's why it was always moving and
- 19:51panning.
- 19:55If you need to get a rack out,
- 19:57it's too heavy.
- 19:59Of course, I love the rack.
- 20:03I think that contributed to the poor
- 20:05camera work, quite honestly.
- 20:10So, okay.
- 20:11A lot of people didn't.
- 20:12There was like, what?
- 20:14A third of the field didn't finish.
- 20:18Eleven?
- 20:20Really?
- 20:20I think only nine women finished that.
- 20:30I'm on the men.
- 20:32Or maybe eleven finished and nine didn't.
- 20:43Nine finished.
- 20:44You're right.
- 20:45Yeah, so over half did not finish.
- 20:47That's not good.
- 20:49And every man finished.
- 20:50It's what I expected.
- 20:54But what I wanted to add to this
- 20:56and why I like the rest.
- 21:00I like a heavier barbell,
- 21:01so I know I'm always going to disagree
- 21:03with you on that.
- 21:04But fourteen of the women finished the
- 21:06overhead squats.
- 21:14I'm just saying they did and.
- 21:19And I like the rack because it just
- 21:21took they had cleaned a lot this weekend.
- 21:25I just didn't think they needed to clean
- 21:27it or snatch it up.
- 21:29I just liked that it was just press
- 21:30it.
- 21:30And I thought it helped show the beauty
- 21:35of what a snatch balance is.
- 21:37I enjoyed seeing that out of Tudor and
- 21:38Dee.
- 21:39Yeah,
- 21:40which is something that I learned when I
- 21:43first went to a gym back in the
- 21:45old days.
- 21:46And you don't see that much anymore.
- 21:49And I really enjoyed the beauty of that
- 21:51because they both made it look so good.
- 21:53Mm-hmm.
- 21:54Um, so I, I like the rack there.
- 21:58You have a,
- 21:59so that's not an excuse for the camera
- 22:01work.
- 22:02You have a cable cam.
- 22:02Like they can go above and get all
- 22:06the shots you need.
- 22:08I don't,
- 22:08I don't know what the hell happened there.
- 22:14So it was either an overhead squat workout
- 22:18or a rope climb workout,
- 22:19depending on what your deficiency was.
- 22:25Cause like Colton killed the overhead
- 22:26squat.
- 22:27The rope climbs killed him.
- 22:28Sure.
- 22:32So in that event on the women's side,
- 22:34Laura one saw her coming.
- 22:38She was like a freight train today.
- 22:41Uh, Gabby took second,
- 22:42Olivia Kirstetter took third after she
- 22:46appealed that she had a men's bar and
- 22:48only got six seconds back or something
- 22:50like that.
- 22:51That's ridiculous.
- 22:55Um,
- 22:55Lucy Campbell took fourth and Kyra
- 22:57Milligan took fifth.
- 23:00Did you have any surprises in this one
- 23:02or?
- 23:02I would say Lucy fourth placement
- 23:06surprised me and Rolf really surprised me.
- 23:09I would have thought Rolf would have been
- 23:10in the bottom five.
- 23:12I like,
- 23:13I would have thought Carolyn and I would
- 23:14have thought it was heavy enough that it
- 23:16would have hurt Carolyn and Emily and
- 23:20probably Alex Kazan with the overhead.
- 23:22Um,
- 23:24but Carolyn impressed me on this workout
- 23:26too.
- 23:28Yeah.
- 23:29All of them finished the overhead squats.
- 23:31Yeah.
- 23:32Uh,
- 23:32they just couldn't get to the deadlift.
- 23:34Yeah.
- 23:35And if you know,
- 23:35if Carolyn gets to the deadlift,
- 23:36she's getting them right.
- 23:38That,
- 23:38that was the only frustrating thing for
- 23:40me.
- 23:44Um, how did they get a male bar?
- 23:45Someone on the crew had to have messed
- 23:47up.
- 23:56uh says emma tall she has that that
- 23:59bum shoulder that just so that's why i
- 24:02didn't i picked her to win so like
- 24:07i was way off um she she she
- 24:12didn't have the weekend i thought she
- 24:13would i don't even know if that was
- 24:17the shoulder though i don't know i don't
- 24:19either um
- 24:22I thought Jen Mira would be a little
- 24:24bit better in this because she's strong.
- 24:27And honestly,
- 24:28it seemed like it was the overhead squat
- 24:29that was...
- 24:30Maybe I don't know enough about her.
- 24:32Maybe she doesn't have a great overhead
- 24:35position.
- 24:35I'm not sure.
- 24:38And I would think it'd be better for
- 24:40Danielle.
- 24:41Like, I know she's not the strongest,
- 24:42but her overhead is incredible.
- 24:45I don't know if she just was...
- 24:48kind of over the comp at this point
- 24:49and whatever annoyed with everything and
- 24:53just kind of coasting through it but yeah
- 24:58that would be my other surprise on the
- 25:00women's side yeah um on the men's side
- 25:09uh
- 25:10I wish this leaderboard was easier to use.
- 25:12Gee wins.
- 25:14No shock.
- 25:15Nate Ackerman,
- 25:16after all the talk yesterday,
- 25:19puts up a blistering time and he won.
- 25:21And the only person to beat him was
- 25:23Gee.
- 25:23Yeah.
- 25:25And he takes second in the event.
- 25:28Tudor takes third.
- 25:30Dallin Pepper takes fourth.
- 25:31James Sprague takes fifth.
- 25:38Seeing the way Tudor attacked this,
- 25:41I was so impressed.
- 25:46I was screaming at the TV for Tudor
- 25:47today.
- 25:48Me too.
- 25:52And it was such a great start for
- 25:54him.
- 25:55I just wish he would have transitioned a
- 25:58little faster.
- 26:02Yeah, he kind of lost the gusto.
- 26:03I think he could tell he was coming
- 26:05and it...
- 26:07It was what it was.
- 26:08But I think Tudor cycled faster.
- 26:11Gee actually jogged the transitions.
- 26:14I don't know that last,
- 26:15which is not what I would have.
- 26:17I would have predicted.
- 26:20Yeah.
- 26:21I mean,
- 26:22the thing is when it's light for you,
- 26:25it is, it's, it's not,
- 26:29that's light for Tudor too.
- 26:35But anyway,
- 26:40I was really impressed with that.
- 26:41Nate,
- 26:41I was screaming for because he just was
- 26:45like a man on a mission.
- 26:46Like something clicked overnight.
- 26:48He shows up.
- 26:49Maybe it's just these are his wheelhouse.
- 26:51I think exactly right.
- 26:54We know he's good at rope climbs,
- 26:56and we know he's strong.
- 26:59This was the workout for him to lay
- 27:02the hammer down and show what he's good
- 27:04at.
- 27:05I still have a lot of questions within
- 27:07his overall fitness.
- 27:10We compared him to Anika Greer yesterday,
- 27:12and I think that that still fits because
- 27:15Anika has home runs and she still has
- 27:17things that.
- 27:20But he's young, like real young,
- 27:24and we'll see.
- 27:28Man,
- 27:29Dallin and James are just so consistent
- 27:31this weekend.
- 27:36It looks good.
- 27:37Feeling that third final deadlift was
- 27:40surprising to me.
- 27:40Yeah.
- 27:46Tudor has a better mental game now?
- 27:49I think so.
- 27:50I think he has more confidence in himself
- 27:52in other aspects.
- 27:54When he was interviewed and said that he
- 27:55wanted to show he's a more well-rounded
- 27:57athlete now, that was a big...
- 28:01that was a big admission for him or
- 28:03big statement for him.
- 28:06Um,
- 28:07because he's always been the guy that can
- 28:08lift all the weights.
- 28:09And he,
- 28:10I think when you interviewed him at the
- 28:12West coast semifinal, he talked about,
- 28:14he just wanted to go out and lift
- 28:16the most weight and do put on a
- 28:18show.
- 28:18And so it was, it,
- 28:22there definitely has been some mental
- 28:24changes for sure.
- 28:35So then we have a Venate.
- 28:37That is your pyramid chipper thingy.
- 28:41Donatar.
- 28:43What's that?
- 28:44Donatar.
- 28:46Yeah.
- 28:46I don't remember the names.
- 28:51So that started,
- 28:53that was the handstand walk, double under,
- 28:57GHD, box jump, and then back down.
- 29:02Yeah.
- 29:03Um, any thoughts on this one?
- 29:07Really liked the workout.
- 29:10Um, I think for the most part,
- 29:15I think it played out exactly what,
- 29:17like you would think it was a burpee
- 29:19box jump workout for the most part.
- 29:22Clearly tutors double under speed and
- 29:28handstand walk speed.
- 29:30was the only reason he was able to
- 29:32take that.
- 29:33Um, but.
- 29:35Can I argue with you on that?
- 29:39The only reason I'm arguing with you is
- 29:40because old tutor would not have hung with
- 29:43James on the box burpee box jump overs.
- 29:46Yeah, he would not have.
- 29:48And so because he elevated that piece,
- 29:51it gave him the opportunity on the other
- 29:53two for sure.
- 29:55Like he didn't beat James on the burpee
- 29:57box jump over,
- 29:58but he didn't let James break the string.
- 30:04I for sure.
- 30:06So again,
- 30:07this is another workout for Nate that
- 30:09like,
- 30:09we know he's good at handstand walk and
- 30:11double unders.
- 30:13I thought for sure he was going to
- 30:15implode on the burpee box jump over.
- 30:16I'm like, I mean,
- 30:18this is where he doesn't have the fitness.
- 30:20He's going to go out.
- 30:21He went out hot.
- 30:22He's going to fall apart.
- 30:25He had a very good cadence on those
- 30:27burpee box jump overs.
- 30:28I was very impressed with him on this
- 30:30workout.
- 30:34Yeah,
- 30:34so Tudor wins it by literally the
- 30:39handstand walk speed and double under
- 30:41speed.
- 30:42And you're right, Shannon.
- 30:45Tudor barely leaves the floor in his dubs.
- 30:47It's crazy.
- 30:49And that means that the room for error
- 30:51is so small.
- 30:56Um,
- 30:56so then we have James Sprague in second,
- 30:58Jay Crouch in third,
- 30:59Dallin Pepper in fourth.
- 31:01Those names sound familiar to me this
- 31:03weekend.
- 31:05Uh, and then Nate Ackerman took fourth,
- 31:06fifth.
- 31:07Sorry.
- 31:09Yep.
- 31:09Those two events,
- 31:10Nate went from dead last to thirteenth.
- 31:16That's a hell of a joke.
- 31:17Yeah.
- 31:17Good day for him.
- 31:22Then we go over to the women's side.
- 31:25I think I think I was texting with
- 31:28Joseph today on this.
- 31:30It was Corey.
- 31:31It was Corey.
- 31:32And you always forget the savage that Lucy
- 31:35Campbell is on these type of workouts.
- 31:38I didn't.
- 31:38This is where I expected her to.
- 31:41I know she's great at burpee back jump
- 31:44over.
- 31:45Ariel,
- 31:45another one that's great at burpee back
- 31:47jump over.
- 31:49When I was kind of making my picks
- 31:50for this, I'm like, well,
- 31:51who's going to hurt for fifty straight
- 31:53burpee back jump overs?
- 31:57I thought Paige looked like maybe she's
- 31:59feeling better today.
- 32:01Yeah.
- 32:05Because I actually did not expect her to
- 32:06do very well at this.
- 32:07I was like, oh,
- 32:08she's probably going to move kind of slow
- 32:09on this.
- 32:09And she did pretty good.
- 32:12I think the biggest surprise for me,
- 32:14and it's going to sound weird,
- 32:15is Daniel Brandon.
- 32:17Yeah, she can handstand walk,
- 32:20but she's out of it at this point.
- 32:24For her to mentally still give it a
- 32:25go on this one shocked me.
- 32:29Yeah.
- 32:29Yeah.
- 32:31I think she just knows that that's her
- 32:33one thing,
- 32:34and she's still got to take it,
- 32:36or she might as well hang up the
- 32:37dang sport.
- 32:39Otherwise, she does seem checked out.
- 32:43Yeah.
- 32:46So on this one, Lucy took first.
- 32:49Emma Lawson takes second.
- 32:52I thought Emma looked really good today.
- 32:54She did.
- 32:55Ariel Lowen took third.
- 32:57Daniel Brandon took fourth.
- 32:59And Laura Horvat took fifth.
- 33:05Gabby looked good.
- 33:05She kind of did what she needed to
- 33:07do.
- 33:11Uh, where was Gabby on this one?
- 33:12Wasn't she like right behind?
- 33:15Uh, eighth.
- 33:15Okay.
- 33:18Yeah.
- 33:18Like two, three, like she kept,
- 33:20she kept right next to Laura and she
- 33:22stayed where she needed to stay
- 33:24essentially.
- 33:25I think maybe she got like out handstand
- 33:27walk there at the end.
- 33:33I'm debating on whether I want to bring
- 33:34this up because I hate it.
- 33:38Their talk?
- 33:39Yeah.
- 33:41So I got a lot of reaction from
- 33:45people.
- 33:46I think it was after the first event.
- 33:48They did the interview with the two of
- 33:49them, Gabby and Laura.
- 33:56And then Laura saying that they've been
- 33:58best friends and Gabby not looking like
- 34:02they are.
- 34:03I do we really do we really care?
- 34:12I mean, I don't know.
- 34:13I think a lot of people were like,
- 34:14Oh, what's going on here?
- 34:17It's just another talking point.
- 34:19Little
- 34:24I just, okay, I don't know.
- 34:27I love shit talking.
- 34:28I love when people shit talk on the
- 34:30floor.
- 34:31I've said it earlier this weekend.
- 34:32I love when Laura says she's going to
- 34:35eat, all that kind of stuff.
- 34:39They haven't even competed against each
- 34:41other for years because of Gabby's injury
- 34:45and Laura only doing the other stuff and
- 34:47not the game season.
- 34:51None of it matters to me at this
- 34:53point because... I don't know.
- 34:57It's hard for me to express it in
- 34:59words, but it just doesn't matter to me.
- 35:03Because it's not relevant to the sport
- 35:06anymore.
- 35:10I mean, to me,
- 35:13it seemed like Laura was...
- 35:18I mean,
- 35:19obviously not apologizing to any sort for
- 35:21anything, but like,
- 35:22I like what you're saying there though,
- 35:24because I felt like it was her way
- 35:26of trying to break the ice.
- 35:28I do.
- 35:29She acknowledged that she, I mean,
- 35:32she trained with Gabby.
- 35:33That's what she was saying.
- 35:33I trained with Gabby all these years.
- 35:35I know what Gabby's good at.
- 35:36Like,
- 35:36I knew this was going to be a
- 35:37great event for her.
- 35:38Like you're acknowledging someone's
- 35:40strengths,
- 35:41not trying to talk down on them at
- 35:43all.
- 35:43Not trying to say you're like,
- 35:45I thought it was,
- 35:48A nice, I don't know,
- 35:50a little bit of nice icebreaker.
- 35:52And I see Joseph and Shanna saying that
- 35:54it's phony.
- 35:55I don't think it was phony.
- 35:56I don't think it was either.
- 35:58Your perception of who Laura is in your
- 36:01mind is going to determine whether you
- 36:03think it was phony or not.
- 36:04We talked about it yesterday.
- 36:05You either love her or you hate her.
- 36:08If you're a hater,
- 36:09you're thinking it's phony.
- 36:10If you love her,
- 36:11you think she was trying to do something.
- 36:13I think she was trying to break the
- 36:15ice.
- 36:15I think she regrets not having her as
- 36:18a friend anymore.
- 36:19And I may be reading too much into
- 36:21this,
- 36:21and this is getting way much more airtime
- 36:23than I ever wanted it to be,
- 36:25but I felt like that's what she was
- 36:27trying to do,
- 36:29and Gabby was having none of it.
- 36:30Yeah,
- 36:31she did not seem to acknowledge any of
- 36:35it.
- 36:37Cause she was giving her flowers.
- 36:40I agree.
- 36:40That's what I felt like.
- 36:42And Laura doesn't do that.
- 36:49Yeah.
- 36:52So I didn't take it as present tense.
- 36:55I didn't either.
- 36:56I, that may be an English thing.
- 36:57I mean, I know Laura's good in English,
- 36:59but like she may have,
- 37:03missed the word or how she was trying
- 37:05to phrase it may have just come off
- 37:07just a hair wrong.
- 37:12Now,
- 37:12I think you're taking it too far to
- 37:14the other extreme, Larry.
- 37:16I just think the last two events weren't
- 37:18Gabby's jam.
- 37:21Well,
- 37:22I think she hit the bar a couple
- 37:25times and that just kind of...
- 37:27She also didn't seem to go out like
- 37:29she was going to sprint the bike or
- 37:30anything.
- 37:30She was kind of playing it safe.
- 37:33hanging in there i don't i don't know
- 37:41yes gabby was so that's the thing gabby
- 37:43was the one that walked over and
- 37:46high-fived laura laura was sitting down
- 37:48gabby finished and high-fived her so i
- 37:50quite honestly i feel like gabby was the
- 37:52one that broke the ice and then laura
- 37:55okay
- 38:02Uh,
- 38:03train apparently thinks I'm a Stuart
- 38:04Smalley and I just look in the mirror
- 38:08and dog on it.
- 38:09I'm worth it.
- 38:14Uh, uh, uh, I was screaming,
- 38:19go on the bike.
- 38:20I was too.
- 38:23See, I'm, I'm not a Gabby fan.
- 38:25I don't know why I'm not a Gabby
- 38:26fan.
- 38:26She just doesn't speak to me.
- 38:30Um,
- 38:31I try to be objective and look at
- 38:33her talent when I'm doing analysis of her.
- 38:38But she's just not someone I root for.
- 38:40And I don't know why.
- 38:42I don't.
- 38:44I was never a Gabby fan, really.
- 38:48I think at this point,
- 38:49probably I feel like she's the underdog
- 38:51coming back.
- 38:51And that's always like a cool story.
- 38:53So I'm interested to see where she comes
- 38:55from this.
- 38:56But I would agree with you the way
- 38:59I feel about Laura.
- 39:00is how I felt about Gabby while she
- 39:02was competing.
- 39:03I liked that Gabby looked like she was
- 39:05starting to take her down a little just
- 39:07because I wanted somebody to...
- 39:10I wanted somebody to... I mean,
- 39:12I always want somebody to try to give
- 39:14Tia a push too, right?
- 39:16Everyone wants that.
- 39:17If somebody's winning,
- 39:18you want somebody to give them a
- 39:19challenge.
- 39:20So I liked Gabby in that regard at
- 39:22that moment.
- 39:25But I am very curious to watch her
- 39:27come back from this.
- 39:28I thought she looked good this morning.
- 39:32I'm not a Gabby fan after all she's
- 39:33been through and come back from.
- 39:35I, we,
- 39:39we did talk about a little bit this
- 39:40weekend and I,
- 39:41it was after Jamie left the show on
- 39:43Friday because I've interviewed almost all
- 39:48of these athletes.
- 39:49I have met them all in person.
- 39:52I have talked to them.
- 39:54I don't know who I'm going to root
- 39:55for until the event starts.
- 39:59I do have a couple that I'm better
- 40:02friends with than others,
- 40:05but for the most part,
- 40:06I don't really know where my allegiance is
- 40:09going to lie until the weekend starts
- 40:11playing out.
- 40:14I was asking G if she had the
- 40:17same thing after interviewing all the
- 40:18athletes because I can't explain it.
- 40:22I don't know why it happens.
- 40:24It just...
- 40:28It's just weird.
- 40:29I don't know.
- 40:35Uh, Colleen said,
- 40:38Gabby got to finish the story from two
- 40:40years ago.
- 40:41Okay.
- 40:44That story doesn't speak to me though.
- 40:45And it,
- 40:46but it doesn't mean it doesn't speak to
- 40:47other people.
- 40:49So I get it.
- 40:49I, and she is very popular.
- 40:52Trust me on this show.
- 40:54I get a lot of Gabby love from
- 40:55the chat.
- 40:59I feel like Laura is very popular outside
- 41:01of the U S. Oh, I agree.
- 41:06I, Laura has a Red Bull deal.
- 41:09She has an Adidas deal.
- 41:11She is popular just because you don't like
- 41:15her.
- 41:16Doesn't mean she's not popular.
- 41:19Just say, and I'm not talking,
- 41:21I'm saying the general you, not you,
- 41:23Jamie.
- 41:27Um,
- 41:35I wanted to see Gabby shine because she
- 41:37was a force of nature before injury.
- 41:39Was she?
- 41:43People were really praising her like she
- 41:44was going to be the next.
- 41:47But she hadn't.
- 41:48I know.
- 41:54I will give you this.
- 41:54She was on her way up when it
- 41:58happened.
- 41:59Correct.
- 42:00She was definitely making a move at that
- 42:02point.
- 42:05But Heinrich Heipleinen,
- 42:06who injured his at the exact same time,
- 42:08doesn't get the love she does.
- 42:19Nope.
- 42:19Laura seems like a nasty person.
- 42:24I don't know that we can tell that
- 42:25from...
- 42:27I have met her in person a couple
- 42:28of times.
- 42:29I've talked to her.
- 42:31She's very nice in person.
- 42:32She is very good with the spectators at
- 42:34events.
- 42:36She seems very genuine in that,
- 42:39but she comes across as a very confident,
- 42:44hard ass woman when she's on the mic
- 42:49and she doesn't put up with anybody.
- 42:50Yeah.
- 42:55ironica loves her and ronica stopped her
- 42:59at wfp like like asked when she finished
- 43:04the run and was going in to get
- 43:06stuff and i'm like that's a terrible time
- 43:08to stop somebody run and she stopped she
- 43:10was like if you'll walk with me kind
- 43:11of like me with pat vitt velner like
- 43:13i had to like run with them and
- 43:16laura was willing
- 43:25Meeting and passing isn't always super
- 43:26accurate.
- 43:27It isn't.
- 43:30But you have to admit,
- 43:31when you're back in the warm-up area and
- 43:34they're getting ready for events,
- 43:36a lot of times they're showing their true
- 43:38selves.
- 43:38And there are people there that I can
- 43:40tell you are not nice people.
- 43:42Right.
- 43:45I mean,
- 43:46we've had people say no to us.
- 43:48And there is no judgment when people don't
- 43:50want to be interviewed after they're doing
- 43:52stuff.
- 43:53I totally get it.
- 43:56But like that,
- 43:57I can tell you right now,
- 43:58that's not Ariel.
- 43:59And I think everyone knows that.
- 44:02And I've had people say no to me.
- 44:07And I don't think I've ever had Laura
- 44:08say no to me.
- 44:09And like I said,
- 44:09she was very kind to Veronica when she
- 44:12had every right to move on with what
- 44:14she was doing.
- 44:17Yeah.
- 44:17I would say ninety ninety five percent of
- 44:19them are really nice and are very
- 44:21accommodating.
- 44:24But it is what it is.
- 44:27Plus there was a quarter of a million
- 44:30dollars on the line at this thing.
- 44:32Like when I, when I played sports,
- 44:36I was probably not great to be around
- 44:38during the event.
- 44:41I mean, people always say that about me.
- 44:43Like I,
- 44:45I know I have resting bitch face.
- 44:48I, and I'm very like, I'm just,
- 44:52I don't know.
- 44:53I'm not a talkative person.
- 44:56I've gotten better, I guess,
- 44:57over the years.
- 44:59So I don't know if it's because we're
- 45:00friends, but you're fine to me at events.
- 45:02But I know, depending on your finish,
- 45:06how I need to approach you after.
- 45:15But you do have resting bitch face.
- 45:16I know I do.
- 45:17I will say that.
- 45:18I am aware.
- 45:20I mean, yeah, people are always like,
- 45:21fix your face.
- 45:22This is my face.
- 45:23I'm sorry.
- 45:27And during workouts, it's horrible.
- 45:29Like trying to get a picture of you
- 45:31during a workout is nearly impossible.
- 45:36I'm like freaking, what is it?
- 45:41Fabian Ehrman.
- 45:44That dude's face in every workout.
- 45:45I'm like, Jesus,
- 45:46is that what I look like?
- 45:51He's like wild.
- 45:52It's really bad.
- 45:53His is really bad,
- 45:54but in a different way.
- 45:55Yes.
- 46:00My daughter is the same way, Jamie.
- 46:02I have to walk six feet behind her?
- 46:05Probably.
- 46:06All right,
- 46:11so then we finish up with the Highland
- 46:12Sprint, the one name I did remember.
- 46:15Yeah.
- 46:19Which was Echo Bike, GHD?
- 46:22No.
- 46:23No.
- 46:23Zerker Lunge.
- 46:26Oh, yeah, Zerker Lunge.
- 46:31So echo bike,
- 46:32Zerker lunge bag over the bar.
- 46:36Three, two, one.
- 46:38Yeah.
- 46:42I love the bag over the bar.
- 46:44You did.
- 46:45I did because I like car accidents.
- 46:49Okay.
- 46:51Right.
- 46:53I did not care for the Zerker's lunch.
- 47:00Tomato, tomato.
- 47:04I thought it looked unathletic.
- 47:06It looked weird.
- 47:08It's not a good representation of the
- 47:09athleticism of these athletes.
- 47:16It may be a great test.
- 47:18It just didn't look that great on screen.
- 47:20Yeah.
- 47:23And if you're going to have such a
- 47:26risk-reward thing at the end of the round,
- 47:32maybe make them look a little bit better
- 47:34before they get there.
- 47:37Maybe show some more athleticism before
- 47:41that.
- 47:43Yeah.
- 47:45I don't know.
- 47:45This was a, I,
- 47:48this workout was just not it for me.
- 47:52Not a finale in my opinion.
- 47:56Could have been the last workout
- 47:57yesterday.
- 47:59Yeah, I will give you that.
- 48:02I don't think it was great for a
- 48:03last workout.
- 48:05Where was the sprint?
- 48:11Like, honestly,
- 48:14not a single woman sprinted.
- 48:18And they're never going to.
- 48:19Twenty kills on the bike is
- 48:23very different than twenty five kills for
- 48:25a man.
- 48:25And even the men didn't like Tudor was
- 48:28coasting.
- 48:30Like.
- 48:33If anything, I was like,
- 48:34there might be a race between your top
- 48:36four men and you kind of knew Jay
- 48:39was probably going to be out of it
- 48:41because of the bike.
- 48:41So I was like, this is not exciting.
- 48:44This is not a finale.
- 48:46So Barry says overhead kettlebell lunge
- 48:48would have been cool.
- 48:49Good.
- 48:50What about those?
- 48:52the Hulk hands,
- 48:53that would have been really cool.
- 48:54They were already there.
- 48:56That would have had like at least a
- 48:58different look and you could,
- 49:00you could push the lunge and make it
- 49:04a little more speedy.
- 49:06But I do get like the bag over
- 49:08the bar was not a climactic.
- 49:10Well,
- 49:11it could be if you couldn't get it
- 49:13over.
- 49:14Can you, I mean,
- 49:16I don't think the boys were going to
- 49:18have like,
- 49:19nobody was going to fall out of the
- 49:20top three, but,
- 49:22can you imagine if one of them like
- 49:24kept failing and that's why they didn't
- 49:29podium or like it would have been like,
- 49:32That's not even to, to be fair.
- 49:35I like,
- 49:35I don't mind the fitness piece of things
- 49:38and adaptation,
- 49:39which I feel like Jeff did better at
- 49:41this than I expected.
- 49:42Um, cause usually it does,
- 49:45doesn't adapt to these things, but to me,
- 49:47this was purely a height workout.
- 49:50Like Colton couldn't do it because he
- 49:51couldn't get the bag through his legs to
- 49:54swing it.
- 49:54That's why Jay struggled.
- 49:55In my opinion, happy lining did great.
- 49:58Cause he's tall.
- 50:00You know,
- 50:00James and Dillon are going to be fine.
- 50:03Like, even if they mess up once,
- 50:04they're going to get it.
- 50:05But it was a very awkward.
- 50:07That's a big bag for someone of Colton's
- 50:10stature with how wide his legs are.
- 50:13Like,
- 50:13think about trying to swing that thing
- 50:15without hitting the ground and getting
- 50:16momentum.
- 50:20Yeah, I hear you.
- 50:22I hear you.
- 50:23And like Amy Kringle fell apart and she
- 50:25fell out of contention.
- 50:30And I, this is where like,
- 50:32I always fall into this and I need
- 50:34to stop is like, this is rogue.
- 50:36This is their event.
- 50:37This is their showcase.
- 50:39We are not here to find the fittest
- 50:41on earth.
- 50:42We're here to showcase their equipment and
- 50:44entertain.
- 50:46Did we showcase their equipment?
- 50:47Like, again,
- 50:48we barely even saw the bags being tossed
- 50:51or like didn't even,
- 50:53that wasn't rogue's fault.
- 50:54That was the broadcast fault.
- 50:55Well,
- 50:56they should have been focused on that a
- 50:58little bit more.
- 50:58Like, again, we've seen bikes.
- 51:01They showed a decent amount of the Zurcher
- 51:04with holding that barbell.
- 51:05Like I think they were trying to showcase
- 51:06that barbell a little more.
- 51:08I didn't hate it.
- 51:09It was fine.
- 51:09It's awkward.
- 51:10It puts pressure on that bicep.
- 51:11And then when you go to swing,
- 51:13you're like, it's fine.
- 51:15But they didn't,
- 51:16you didn't get really much commentary
- 51:19about the bag because the camera wasn't
- 51:21there enough to talk about it.
- 51:22Like to even talk about Jay's miss or
- 51:24where Colton was struggling or anything.
- 51:27It just, to me,
- 51:28it did not highlight anything.
- 51:32I think what it did for me was
- 51:34I would love to try it.
- 51:36I would love to go get a bag.
- 51:37I would love to try to throw it
- 51:39up over something.
- 51:42Maybe I'll ask Julie if I can just
- 51:43start throwing them on the roof.
- 51:45Yeah.
- 51:45And then you'd be like,
- 51:46these idiots couldn't even do this
- 51:47workout.
- 51:47I'm fitter than Amy Kringle.
- 51:50That's like, that's the kind of.
- 51:52Okay.
- 51:56Well, maybe I am.
- 51:58Maybe you are.
- 52:02um more athletic maybe i mean that's the
- 52:05thing there's definitely a difference
- 52:08between athleticism and fitness the more
- 52:10we have these conversations and we talk
- 52:12about these like you know your four-yard
- 52:15dash your your sideways shuttles your
- 52:19things like this getting the bag over the
- 52:20bar there is something to athleticism
- 52:25adaptation
- 52:28For me, it's more of a gi showcase.
- 52:30And that's, again, you're right.
- 52:31It's fine.
- 52:32It's rogue.
- 52:34What I don't want is other events taking
- 52:38these things and programming around them
- 52:41because I think it's a poor test of
- 52:43fitness.
- 52:43Okay.
- 52:43Okay.
- 52:54I think if you're an event organizer,
- 52:56Rogue has their thing and you should not
- 52:59try to duplicate it.
- 53:00Agreed.
- 53:02But to me, it's okay.
- 53:04I mean, they have a deal with CBS.
- 53:06They're getting airtime.
- 53:07They're doing things that the other events
- 53:10can't do.
- 53:12And because of that,
- 53:13they can do whatever the hell they want
- 53:14to.
- 53:14And I'm okay with it.
- 53:16But I do agree with it.
- 53:18It wasn't a climactic end.
- 53:21You didn't see the race to the buzzer.
- 53:22You didn't see the lunge down the line.
- 53:26Whatever that might be.
- 53:28I actually think Dunatar should have been
- 53:31the finale.
- 53:34That handstand walk,
- 53:36seeing who wasn't going to trip on the...
- 53:38That would have been a more climactic
- 53:42finale.
- 53:44Watching Tudor pass James on the handstand
- 53:45walk was exciting.
- 53:48Yeah.
- 53:49It was great.
- 53:53Saw more of Andrew Sten on the stream
- 53:54than I saw of Carolyn.
- 53:55I was thinking that too.
- 54:00Yeah.
- 54:00Old Andrew Sten got middle lanes, man.
- 54:06Thanks, guys.
- 54:11Carolyn run at the end was awesome.
- 54:13Yeah.
- 54:14She sprinted everything to the end.
- 54:18Carolyn was awesome.
- 54:19Love her.
- 54:22So, yeah, and everybody agrees with you,
- 54:24like always, and there we go.
- 54:27I don't always know if my opinions are
- 54:29going to be well-received or not.
- 54:32I have them, though.
- 54:35So this event was Laura Horvath took the
- 54:37win again.
- 54:40Kerstetter took second.
- 54:42No surprise there, right?
- 54:43Like,
- 54:44they're both going to be great on a
- 54:45bike,
- 54:46tall enough to not struggle with that bag.
- 54:51Um,
- 54:51Lucy Campbell took fourth and Gabby
- 54:54McGowan took fifth.
- 54:54Yeah.
- 54:56And that was that she did what she
- 54:58needed to do.
- 54:58I would,
- 54:59I've liked to seen her push the bike
- 55:00a little bit more because all she needed
- 55:01to do was close one spot and not
- 55:05lose to Laura.
- 55:05She would have been second because they
- 55:07tied, but Laura had the tiebreaker.
- 55:09And then on the men's side,
- 55:10we had James Sprague win that event.
- 55:12Dallin Pepper took second, Jason Hopper,
- 55:14third, Gima heroes took fifth, fourth,
- 55:17and Ricky Gerard took fifth.
- 55:21So then we end up with a total
- 55:26where our winner was Dallin pepper.
- 55:28And I was so excited for him to
- 55:32get a big win as an adult is
- 55:35huge for him.
- 55:40Um,
- 55:41James Sprague took second tutor Magda took
- 55:43third.
- 55:44So the Pacific Northwest is celebrating
- 55:46tonight.
- 55:47I love that.
- 55:48Those three boys got their little podium
- 55:50pick again.
- 55:52And then the Australians took fourth and
- 55:55fifth, Jay and Ricky.
- 56:02My picks weren't good.
- 56:05My picks were pretty good.
- 56:06I had James and Tudor.
- 56:11And then I had Jeff Adler,
- 56:12which was not up in the top three.
- 56:13And I had Dallin, James, and Ricky.
- 56:17No, I did have Dallin.
- 56:18I had Dallin and Tudor.
- 56:21Actually,
- 56:21so I got Dallin and James right in
- 56:23that order.
- 56:24I think I did too.
- 56:25I went Dallin, Jeff, Tudor.
- 56:29You said Jeff?
- 56:31Yeah, Dallin, Jeff, Tudor.
- 56:32You got Dallin.
- 56:33But I said Dallin, James,
- 56:35Ricky when I picked my pick.
- 56:38So I had Dallin and James right.
- 56:40I had Dallin and Tudor right.
- 56:43It's the women I totally botched.
- 56:45Yeah,
- 56:45I don't think any of us did great
- 56:48on the women's side.
- 56:51On the women's side,
- 56:51we had Lucy Campbell win,
- 56:53Laura Horvat in second,
- 56:55Gabby McGowan in third,
- 56:56Emma Lawson in fourth,
- 56:58and Alex Kazan in fifth.
- 57:03Yeah, I had Emma Tall winning,
- 57:05Alex Kazan in second, and Amy in third.
- 57:12So I was way off.
- 57:13I didn't get any.
- 57:14Yeah, I think it's that Amy, Laura, Emma,
- 57:15maybe?
- 57:23So you got one.
- 57:26Yeah.
- 57:27But I was really happy for Lucy Campbell.
- 57:29Her first big, I mean,
- 57:31like she's won water Palooza.
- 57:32I guess that's a pretty big deal,
- 57:35but to add a rogue win on top
- 57:38of the second place at the games, pretty,
- 57:41pretty damn impressive.
- 57:43And her speech afterwards where she talked
- 57:45about thinking this was never going to be
- 57:47her event.
- 57:48She wouldn't even be able to qualify for
- 57:50it.
- 57:50And then she won the whole damn thing.
- 57:54I thought that was pretty cool.
- 57:56Yeah.
- 57:57I don't know that.
- 58:00Like, I'm glad she's like saying that now.
- 58:04I, I personally, for like the last year,
- 58:07it's over a year whenever people are like,
- 58:09Oh, she's not strong.
- 58:10I like, I am confused at that statement.
- 58:14Like to me, she's been fine.
- 58:16I don't know why,
- 58:17why we keep and why she even puts
- 58:19these limitations on herself because she's
- 58:23strong enough.
- 58:27She is.
- 58:27She sewed it.
- 58:28If you win Rogue, you're strong enough.
- 58:30Correct.
- 58:34Disappointments from the weekend.
- 58:36I see someone in here saying Jason Hopper.
- 58:39I was more disappointed in Jason Hopper
- 58:40not shit-talking.
- 58:45Yeah.
- 58:47I think it is needed in our sport.
- 58:50That's what I loved about what a Palooza
- 58:52SoCal is all of the trash-talking back and
- 58:55forth.
- 58:57Well, they should add Jack Barlow here.
- 58:58He would have been great for this event.
- 59:01He would have been.
- 59:02I think you would have done really good
- 59:04at some of these events.
- 59:06Well, if he's still injured, who knows?
- 59:09I don't know.
- 59:11I would have to say Amy was a
- 59:13little bit of a disappointment.
- 59:14Yeah.
- 59:15But again, we talked about this.
- 59:17We don't know what condition they're in
- 59:19when they get here.
- 59:20Some did a couple events.
- 59:22Some did no events.
- 59:27yeah i don't know that always bothers me
- 59:30like and i don't know if it's because
- 59:32like i like carolyn and i are similar
- 59:35like we just are in the same shape
- 59:38year round if you ask us to show
- 59:40up somewhere we're gonna be fine i don't
- 59:42like like knowing that people need to like
- 59:47fully taper and fully and i know you
- 59:50need to do it for health for like
- 59:52longevity stay healthy
- 59:57probably why I'm always injured, whatever.
- 1:00:01I would just rather just stay in shape
- 1:00:05all the time.
- 1:00:06I don't want to.
- 1:00:08I agree with you.
- 1:00:09I think that that is the only way
- 1:00:10you're going to survive in the modern
- 1:00:13climate of fitness, fitnessing,
- 1:00:16because athletes wanted more opportunities
- 1:00:19and now they have them and you're not
- 1:00:22going to be able to taper down or
- 1:00:24deload for every single event anymore.
- 1:00:28And so you either have to choose to
- 1:00:29only do a couple or live with a
- 1:00:32new normal.
- 1:00:33Right.
- 1:00:39Amy, first time at Rogue, she'll improve.
- 1:00:41I trust she will too.
- 1:00:43And I'm only mildly disappointed.
- 1:00:45I really like Amy.
- 1:00:47I found myself rooting for her this
- 1:00:49weekend.
- 1:00:50She's one of the people that bubbled to
- 1:00:51the surface.
- 1:00:55I just want her to do well.
- 1:00:58And I really thought Alex Kazan would
- 1:00:59have.
- 1:01:00And she looked really good yesterday.
- 1:01:03Today just fell flat for her.
- 1:01:06And in some really bad ways.
- 1:01:11But she still took fifth, top five.
- 1:01:14Made some decent money.
- 1:01:22John,
- 1:01:22just saying that you want to have fun
- 1:01:24does not mean that you are just there
- 1:01:26to have fun.
- 1:01:31Let's just say that too.
- 1:01:33Because last night,
- 1:01:34Jamie said she likes to go just to
- 1:01:35have fun, and I know that's a lie.
- 1:01:39Again, if I was going to Rogue,
- 1:01:41I would just go have fun.
- 1:01:47I,
- 1:01:48there are specific instances where you
- 1:01:50told me I'm going just to have fun
- 1:01:52because I hurt my shoulder.
- 1:01:53Then you get there and you beat yourself
- 1:01:56up because you didn't do this on this
- 1:01:57event and you didn't do this.
- 1:01:58You didn't meet your own expectations.
- 1:02:01You never just have fun.
- 1:02:04You are a competitor through and through
- 1:02:06just like all these athletes are.
- 1:02:08They just say that out loud and she's
- 1:02:12trying to be humble.
- 1:02:13She's trying to be the anti Laura and
- 1:02:16that's cool.
- 1:02:19But it doesn't mean deep down inside she
- 1:02:20didn't want to win.
- 1:02:25It's a lot of work to win.
- 1:02:27Winning's not everything.
- 1:02:31I know.
- 1:02:35And I'm not saying that if you don't
- 1:02:36win, you're not happy.
- 1:02:37I'm saying that, like, for you,
- 1:02:40it's about you.
- 1:02:41What you could have done differently,
- 1:02:44and you beat yourself up about it.
- 1:02:52Say that again, Jamie.
- 1:02:53I don't know what I said.
- 1:03:04I thought it was a fun weekend.
- 1:03:05I enjoyed watching it for the most part.
- 1:03:08I do get annoyed.
- 1:03:11And again, if it was a free broadcast,
- 1:03:13I would be less critical.
- 1:03:16But this is a CBS broadcast.
- 1:03:18All the cool graphics,
- 1:03:20all the four K cameras,
- 1:03:22all the cool shit.
- 1:03:24And then you botch it up by like
- 1:03:27just really poor camera work.
- 1:03:31It was all there for the taking.
- 1:03:37I thought the strong man was pretty good.
- 1:03:39I watched pretty much every event.
- 1:03:42Those are nice and short.
- 1:03:43There's only eight, eight, nine of them.
- 1:03:45It goes pretty quick.
- 1:03:46Two minute events.
- 1:03:47Like I think,
- 1:03:48and I think they do a good job
- 1:03:49of broadcast for those events.
- 1:03:52Yeah.
- 1:03:53They're not moving as fast as
- 1:03:54CrossFitters.
- 1:03:55True.
- 1:03:56So it's a lot easier to,
- 1:03:58and usually it's one at a time or
- 1:04:00at most two at a time.
- 1:04:01Yeah.
- 1:04:03Um, so it makes it,
- 1:04:07makes it a lot easier to watch.
- 1:04:11But when I watched strong,
- 1:04:13I watched strong man when I was a
- 1:04:14kid at like midnight on ESPN,
- 1:04:17Magnus von Magnussen back in the day,
- 1:04:20dominating strong man,
- 1:04:22picking up Volkswagen Beatles.
- 1:04:24And like,
- 1:04:25I I've loved cross or like strong man
- 1:04:27for a long time.
- 1:04:28I,
- 1:04:29they also come to the Arnold every year.
- 1:04:31And I, when I worked security,
- 1:04:33I got to meet them and they're just
- 1:04:36wild people.
- 1:04:38Like,
- 1:04:38if you ever want to just sit and
- 1:04:41enjoy yourself,
- 1:04:42go hang out where strongmen are hanging
- 1:04:46out.
- 1:04:46It is wild stuff.
- 1:04:54Was legend streamed?
- 1:04:55They didn't even do it.
- 1:05:02I don't care.
- 1:05:04What?
- 1:05:05I don't care.
- 1:05:08After year one of Rogue when the Legends
- 1:05:10actually competed,
- 1:05:12the rest of it's been a joke.
- 1:05:14I do agree with that.
- 1:05:15I wish they would have went back to
- 1:05:16year one.
- 1:05:17If they are going to compete,
- 1:05:19then compete.
- 1:05:21If you're not going to truly compete,
- 1:05:23don't do it.
- 1:05:25I don't need to see the Pro Bowl
- 1:05:29where it's ninety-two to eighty-three.
- 1:05:33That's not real football.
- 1:05:34I don't need to see that.
- 1:05:36I don't need to see people change partners
- 1:05:38in the middle of workouts.
- 1:05:40It's just, if you're not going to work,
- 1:05:43if you're not going to compete,
- 1:05:45do the meet and greets,
- 1:05:46do the community workouts,
- 1:05:49do all that and shake hands and kiss
- 1:05:52babies.
- 1:05:53Take pictures, do all that stuff.
- 1:05:56I love them all.
- 1:05:57I love that they're there.
- 1:06:00I love that Rogue brings them in.
- 1:06:02But if you're not going to truly work
- 1:06:03out, don't work out.
- 1:06:06I mean,
- 1:06:06we all just really want to see Rich
- 1:06:08and Matt take the floor and go head
- 1:06:10to head.
- 1:06:14And I think they would avoid that at
- 1:06:17all costs.
- 1:06:26Yeah.
- 1:06:27Agree.
- 1:06:27Put some money on the line.
- 1:06:28Have thirty five to forty thirty five to
- 1:06:30forty five event with a qualifier.
- 1:06:40I want to see a picture of Hafthor
- 1:06:42and Jamie next to each other.
- 1:06:43I couldn't believe how small he made Peter
- 1:06:45look.
- 1:06:46That was crazy.
- 1:06:51Him and Brian Shaw are two of the
- 1:06:52largest men I've ever seen in person.
- 1:06:55Is he over seven feet tall?
- 1:06:58No.
- 1:07:00Probably six, eleven, six, ten, maybe.
- 1:07:04He looked like a foot taller than Peter.
- 1:07:09It was crazy.
- 1:07:12And he's a whole lot thicker.
- 1:07:13Well, yeah.
- 1:07:16Yeah.
- 1:07:18I have a friend who is over six
- 1:07:20feet tall.
- 1:07:21We met him together working security at
- 1:07:24the Arnold and he, he dwarfed my buddy,
- 1:07:28but Brian Shaw is even like bigger
- 1:07:32overall.
- 1:07:33And Brian Shaw's maybe only in two inches
- 1:07:35shorter and,
- 1:07:36I was telling somebody this,
- 1:07:37we were sitting down at the Hilton by
- 1:07:40the convention center and Brian Shaw came
- 1:07:43in for breakfast and the full dining room
- 1:07:45table looked like one of those bar tables
- 1:07:47that you stand at.
- 1:07:49And he had like a stack of twenty
- 1:07:51pancakes, like eight eggs,
- 1:07:55like his table was full.
- 1:07:57And the fork looked like a toothpick.
- 1:08:04I know I always find it funny when
- 1:08:05like those guys pick up like a pop
- 1:08:08can.
- 1:08:09It's like me picking up those little,
- 1:08:11like, I don't eat ten ounce cans.
- 1:08:13That's what they look like in their hands.
- 1:08:15I'm like, what?
- 1:08:19It reminds me of the Andre, the giant,
- 1:08:21um,
- 1:08:22documentary when he picked up a beer can
- 1:08:24and you could barely see it in his
- 1:08:25hand.
- 1:08:28Yeah.
- 1:08:28It's crazy.
- 1:08:33Is James big in person?
- 1:08:35I think it's... James is tall.
- 1:08:39Yeah,
- 1:08:40I feel like he seems big in person.
- 1:08:42But he's not as big as Dallin and
- 1:08:47Jason.
- 1:08:48He isn't, but Dallin's just thicker.
- 1:08:51Dallin's not as tall.
- 1:08:53No, no, no, no, no, no.
- 1:08:54James is the tallest of the three,
- 1:08:57but the other two are bigger than he
- 1:08:59is.
- 1:09:01Like just beefier.
- 1:09:10So there's that.
- 1:09:14Now we don't really have anything until
- 1:09:16WFP Copenhagen.
- 1:09:18Which is what, December?
- 1:09:20Yep.
- 1:09:22Like what, December?
- 1:09:23When is that?
- 1:09:26It's the week before Christmas.
- 1:09:28Okay.
- 1:09:29Which isn't all... The...
- 1:09:34Xenon Miami like the fifteenth or
- 1:09:37something or is it that same weekend also
- 1:09:40from that time too I feel like I
- 1:09:45haven't paid attention to the Xenon dates
- 1:09:48yet well before we go tonight I did
- 1:09:52want to get your opinion on the events
- 1:09:54of this week one it is rumored that
- 1:09:58Tudor is now going to be coached by
- 1:09:59Adam Neifert I like that I do too
- 1:10:07I think that is the perfect coach for
- 1:10:09Tudor.
- 1:10:10Yeah.
- 1:10:15I really like that.
- 1:10:18It's also less than rumored,
- 1:10:20but more factual that Dom is now Danielle
- 1:10:24Brandon's coach.
- 1:10:32That's interesting.
- 1:10:37This is all the talk about is Dom
- 1:10:39staying with Mayhem.
- 1:10:41Which Rich said last Wednesday that he is.
- 1:10:46I can't see Danielle making that choice if
- 1:10:49he's going back to group.
- 1:10:50I just don't see Danielle wanting anything
- 1:10:52to do with group.
- 1:10:55I guess it doesn't really matter
- 1:10:57regardless,
- 1:10:57but no matter what coach she has,
- 1:11:01she's not going to be really a part
- 1:11:03of the camp, I don't feel like.
- 1:11:05Although I do feel like she has a
- 1:11:06great relationship with like Dallin and
- 1:11:09Jason and they are all rude athletes.
- 1:11:15Here's my, here's my wild ass theory.
- 1:11:19Um, Dom is known as a very strong,
- 1:11:21faithful person.
- 1:11:23Do you think Danielle is looking for more
- 1:11:27than just a coach?
- 1:11:31Because in my eyes,
- 1:11:33Dom is looked at more as a mentor
- 1:11:37than a coach.
- 1:11:42It's a very interesting choice.
- 1:11:44I feel like he would have had to
- 1:11:46have some conversations with her.
- 1:11:49I would like to think you wouldn't just
- 1:11:51take on an athlete just to take them
- 1:11:54on.
- 1:11:56I would hope that there has been some
- 1:11:58conversations there.
- 1:12:01And yeah,
- 1:12:02probably some faith has been brought into
- 1:12:04it or it just seems like.
- 1:12:07I mean,
- 1:12:08I would I just would hope he would
- 1:12:09be the type of person who just wouldn't
- 1:12:10take her on just to take her on.
- 1:12:14I agree.
- 1:12:15I agree.
- 1:12:18Ed says Roman is still with man,
- 1:12:20but just moved.
- 1:12:20No, he is not.
- 1:12:22That's what I had originally read, too.
- 1:12:24And yeah, it does not appear that way.
- 1:12:27Yeah, last Sunday, I was right.
- 1:12:28Jamie was wrong.
- 1:12:29She never admits it,
- 1:12:30but I was actually right last Sunday.
- 1:12:33Roman posted on his Instagram that he has
- 1:12:37left and he's going to start his own
- 1:12:39thing.
- 1:12:47Right.
- 1:12:47I see someone said they think Taylor would
- 1:12:49be a good coach for Daniel.
- 1:12:51I don't think I agree.
- 1:12:53I don't know.
- 1:12:53I don't know why.
- 1:12:54I just...
- 1:12:59I don't know.
- 1:13:03I have seen Taylor coach.
- 1:13:04I think he's awesome at coaching.
- 1:13:06She needs a calming influence in her life.
- 1:13:10Right?
- 1:13:11And if you see Taylor and Bryson coach
- 1:13:15their athletes at the games,
- 1:13:16they are very calm.
- 1:13:19So his personal persona is much different
- 1:13:22than his public persona.
- 1:13:23Yeah.
- 1:13:24But Dom is known for that guy as
- 1:13:28the calming influence.
- 1:13:29And when you run that hot for this
- 1:13:31long,
- 1:13:32I think you're yearning for something to
- 1:13:35soothe that and calm that.
- 1:13:41So that's why I went with that.
- 1:13:44Theory.
- 1:13:45Theory only.
- 1:13:47You really would think Knifer would have
- 1:13:48been the perfect coach for her,
- 1:13:50in my opinion.
- 1:13:52I thought that was a great
- 1:13:53I'm like, oh,
- 1:13:53this is going to be good.
- 1:13:55So I'm disappointed that that isn't
- 1:14:01working out.
- 1:14:03I don't think it's a perfect fit.
- 1:14:05You don't?
- 1:14:06No.
- 1:14:10I think Adam looks at coaching as a
- 1:14:18collaborative and a cooperative thing.
- 1:14:21I don't necessarily think that's what
- 1:14:24Danielle's looking for.
- 1:14:25I could see that.
- 1:14:28But I think that is what Tudor's looking
- 1:14:30for.
- 1:14:32Agreed.
- 1:14:35Like Tudor is wicked smart.
- 1:14:39And like,
- 1:14:39I think he wants to learn while he's
- 1:14:41doing.
- 1:14:49So that's that.
- 1:14:51Then we have the CrossFit game season that
- 1:14:55was announced.
- 1:14:58Just some highlights because we've talked
- 1:14:59about it and other people have talked
- 1:15:00about it all week.
- 1:15:01Just wanted to get your overall arching
- 1:15:03thoughts.
- 1:15:04For you,
- 1:15:05we're back to forty athletes at the games.
- 1:15:09That's a terrible choice.
- 1:15:14I missed that, I guess.
- 1:15:15That's news to me.
- 1:15:15That's dumb.
- 1:15:18So just to explain that,
- 1:15:21every semifinal is now getting three
- 1:15:23qualifiers instead of like this one
- 1:15:25getting one and this one getting two and
- 1:15:27this one getting three.
- 1:15:29So to fit it all in,
- 1:15:31they had to go back to forty.
- 1:15:33They also got rid of Rebel Renegade games
- 1:15:35because they said the depth of the field
- 1:15:37wasn't good enough.
- 1:15:38But they're leaving other ones?
- 1:15:40We don't know.
- 1:15:42We don't know.
- 1:15:43We don't know what's here and what's not.
- 1:15:46Other than the few that have posted their
- 1:15:47dates already.
- 1:15:49tam getting there still don't i feel like
- 1:15:52that was um very questionable depth of
- 1:15:55field as well i yeah i don't know
- 1:16:00um yeah forty means cuts in my opinion
- 1:16:05too which i don't think it's dumb if
- 1:16:11the fittest actually get there i agree
- 1:16:14that won't happen but yeah
- 1:16:17You've got to get rid of this.
- 1:16:18I know it's not regionally locked anymore,
- 1:16:20but it's gotta be accessible for the good
- 1:16:22athletes to go to all the different
- 1:16:24locations.
- 1:16:29Um,
- 1:16:31what are a couple other things you can
- 1:16:33only do two semifinal?
- 1:16:35You can only accept two semifinal
- 1:16:38invitations,
- 1:16:40so you can't accept eight and then cancel
- 1:16:43six of them.
- 1:16:45And pick two or you can't go to
- 1:16:46all eight.
- 1:16:47What if all eight men, top eight men,
- 1:16:51choose the same two?
- 1:16:54Then you're done.
- 1:16:55You're locked in.
- 1:16:57Then it's that or and then.
- 1:16:59This is just silly.
- 1:17:00You have to do it by strength of
- 1:17:02feel.
- 1:17:05I'm just telling you what they told me.
- 1:17:06Don't yell at me.
- 1:17:08Awful.
- 1:17:09More changes that are going to ruin the
- 1:17:11sport.
- 1:17:12Perfect.
- 1:17:21That math ain't mathin'.
- 1:17:26Two times ten is thirty?
- 1:17:29Three times ten?
- 1:17:35Are you saying three by ten?
- 1:17:37So if there's ten semis and they all
- 1:17:38get three people,
- 1:17:39then you're at thirty and then you do
- 1:17:40ten in line, that's a possibility,
- 1:17:43I guess.
- 1:17:45Yeah.
- 1:17:45Ten semis is a lot.
- 1:17:50For both individuals and Masters,
- 1:17:54the online is at the end of the
- 1:17:56season instead of in the middle.
- 1:18:00There are going to be more opportunities,
- 1:18:02supposedly,
- 1:18:03for Masters to compete in person to get
- 1:18:06to the games.
- 1:18:09And the biggest thing is Legends is no
- 1:18:13longer running the Masters CrossFit Games.
- 1:18:14It's now Magic City.
- 1:18:16which we will have Micah Shoemaker on next
- 1:18:20Sunday night.
- 1:18:21And you all can ask him questions about
- 1:18:24what you want to about the CrossFit Games
- 1:18:26next season.
- 1:18:34Any thoughts on that?
- 1:18:35Any questions?
- 1:18:39And he did say in Birmingham in one
- 1:18:41of his posts.
- 1:18:43So it appears that we are going back
- 1:18:45to...
- 1:18:48The CrossFit Games for the open division
- 1:18:52will be in one location.
- 1:18:54Pitt will hold theirs in another.
- 1:18:57Magic City will hold theirs in another.
- 1:19:01Terrible.
- 1:19:02Terrible for the sport.
- 1:19:05Terrible for the community.
- 1:19:10Can you say why,
- 1:19:11or do you want me to?
- 1:19:14You're splitting the fans.
- 1:19:16Everyone is complaining that people aren't
- 1:19:18going to watch these events.
- 1:19:20Yeah,
- 1:19:20because it costs three thousand dollars to
- 1:19:22go watch an event.
- 1:19:24You aren't doing that every other weekend
- 1:19:28or once a month for three months to
- 1:19:31watch three different events.
- 1:19:32No, like.
- 1:19:33Very, very few people are doing that.
- 1:19:36If you want this sport to grow and
- 1:19:37you want the young people that should be
- 1:19:40with their parents anyway seeing both of
- 1:19:42this,
- 1:19:42you need to have the whole thing together
- 1:19:43so that more people are exposed to it
- 1:19:48and are inspired and want to do this.
- 1:19:52You at least need to have masters and
- 1:19:54teens together.
- 1:19:55At least.
- 1:19:58What I will say is if the games
- 1:20:01are going overseas,
- 1:20:02which the rumor is that is happening,
- 1:20:07Then the only U.S.
- 1:20:10options are the age groups and adaptive.
- 1:20:14You should have made it one and taken
- 1:20:15advantage of it this year.
- 1:20:17That's the only event in the U.S.
- 1:20:19for people to go to.
- 1:20:20And you come see everyone compete.
- 1:20:28Tessa says,
- 1:20:28I don't go to concerts anymore because of
- 1:20:31price other than festivals.
- 1:20:33That's what we're missing.
- 1:20:35That is, you know,
- 1:20:37my big beef is that CrossFit tells us
- 1:20:39what we should care about and doesn't
- 1:20:41listen to what we care about.
- 1:20:42What we care about is a festival.
- 1:20:44We care about going and hanging out with
- 1:20:46our friends in a big open field and
- 1:20:49maybe going to a venue a couple times
- 1:20:52a day to watch an event.
- 1:20:53But the rest of the day,
- 1:20:55go do workouts, go eat good food,
- 1:20:57go to a beer garden,
- 1:20:59go do all this other stuff,
- 1:21:00and they have ripped all of that away.
- 1:21:09That's what we're missing.
- 1:21:10And any kind of half-assed measure to
- 1:21:13bring it all together into one without
- 1:21:15that festival feel is a miss.
- 1:21:17Yep.
- 1:21:20If they're not going to do the festival,
- 1:21:21then make them separate.
- 1:21:31I didn't hear Taylor talk about the new
- 1:21:33eight to nine division.
- 1:21:35You don't want to hear my thoughts.
- 1:21:36You didn't like what Taylor said.
- 1:21:37You don't want to hear my thoughts.
- 1:21:39You don't like it.
- 1:21:41Not at all.
- 1:21:43I don't like that.
- 1:21:44Micah took this over either.
- 1:21:45I've said that before.
- 1:21:47I think it's a terrible idea.
- 1:21:51Who do you think should have it?
- 1:21:53CrossFit.
- 1:21:54I've said that.
- 1:21:55And I think that's, those days are over.
- 1:21:57Great.
- 1:21:57Then,
- 1:21:58then it falls apart and CrossFit falls
- 1:22:00apart.
- 1:22:01Like,
- 1:22:02Micah should have stood his ground and
- 1:22:04been like, no, not taking it for you.
- 1:22:07I'm not taking it so that I can
- 1:22:08get shit,
- 1:22:09shit on just like Bob and Joe did.
- 1:22:11Micah should have kept magic city and been
- 1:22:15the premier masters event that everyone
- 1:22:18wants to go to without CrossFit saying,
- 1:22:21here's all of our,
- 1:22:22the money that all of the masters have
- 1:22:24put into the sport and do it right.
- 1:22:27Don't accept it.
- 1:22:28Let it like,
- 1:22:30somebody needed to put crossfit in their
- 1:22:32place and make you cannot tell me that
- 1:22:39this these things make money and that's
- 1:22:44why magic city exists why legends was
- 1:22:47existing it's why desert city classic
- 1:22:50these these events make money crossfit
- 1:22:57saying that it doesn't make money
- 1:22:59is a giant cop out to me.
- 1:23:01And they are pushing all of this off.
- 1:23:03They're keeping all of the profits.
- 1:23:05Like somebody,
- 1:23:06it needs to fall apart because the masters
- 1:23:09are just putting the bill for everything.
- 1:23:12And then you run whoever,
- 1:23:15if Mike could take, if,
- 1:23:17if that's the premier event,
- 1:23:18eventually that becomes a much bigger
- 1:23:20online qualifier.
- 1:23:21And he has the proceeds.
- 1:23:24Maybe he runs it as a two-parter the
- 1:23:25way the open runs right now, but like,
- 1:23:28It's not going to go the way people
- 1:23:30want it to go.
- 1:23:30And he's going to get shit on.
- 1:23:34It's not going to be the game.
- 1:23:35It's, it's just magic city.
- 1:23:37So he should have just done what he
- 1:23:39was always doing and done it the way
- 1:23:41he wanted to do.
- 1:23:41Like, this is a,
- 1:23:42I think it's a terrible idea.
- 1:23:47So you're saying it's a systemic issue
- 1:23:49that is as long as someone's going to
- 1:23:52bail CrossFit out year upon year,
- 1:23:55it's going to continue to happen.
- 1:24:01So it's not just so we're clear and
- 1:24:04this isn't clipped.
- 1:24:06This isn't a dig on Micah.
- 1:24:07This is a dig on the structure of
- 1:24:11what we have and that by him coming
- 1:24:14in and bailing out CrossFit,
- 1:24:16the systemic issue is going to continue.
- 1:24:18Correct.
- 1:24:19I think Bob and Joe were great for
- 1:24:22the sport and Bob and Joe should have
- 1:24:24kept doing legends.
- 1:24:27Because, and this is where,
- 1:24:28when he's talking about the eighteenth and
- 1:24:30nineteenth division,
- 1:24:31it's the exact same thing.
- 1:24:33Pitt already runs the eighteenth and
- 1:24:35nineteenth division.
- 1:24:36They already have this comp handled.
- 1:24:38And the CrossFit in general needs feeder
- 1:24:43comps.
- 1:24:45Like, MFC is great.
- 1:24:47Legends is great.
- 1:24:50Magic City, excellent.
- 1:24:52Excellent work.
- 1:24:53Like, that, they need to exist.
- 1:24:57For people to, like,
- 1:24:59I went to Legends for three years before
- 1:25:02I made it.
- 1:25:03Like, you need those events.
- 1:25:06And they should do what they do really,
- 1:25:08really well.
- 1:25:10And they're amazing events.
- 1:25:12But they should not be the game.
- 1:25:15Like,
- 1:25:15he should stand on his own accord for
- 1:25:17what he does.
- 1:25:18And that should be his event.
- 1:25:19Pitt should continue to run what they run.
- 1:25:21And they should have the eighteenth and
- 1:25:22nineteenth college event.
- 1:25:24It's a great feeder comp.
- 1:25:27You don't have eighteen and nineteen at
- 1:25:28the games.
- 1:25:28That doesn't even make sense.
- 1:25:31You're either good enough to go or you
- 1:25:33aren't.
- 1:25:33You can't keep adding division.
- 1:25:37It doesn't make sense to me.
- 1:25:46In all of our talks,
- 1:25:47you've never told me this before.
- 1:25:48Really?
- 1:25:49Really.
- 1:25:50Not this succinctly.
- 1:25:52And now you have me thinking.
- 1:25:55like i've said this like every time i
- 1:25:57go like this i've said that i know
- 1:25:58i've said that i think people need to
- 1:26:00put their foot down and stop accepting
- 1:26:02these camps from crossfit because you
- 1:26:04aren't getting any help and it's making
- 1:26:06things worse i know i know we've said
- 1:26:09this about the event organizers that are
- 1:26:12the semi-finals that foot the bill for
- 1:26:15crossfit for everything and struggle to
- 1:26:18make money
- 1:26:20all because they're the semifinal for
- 1:26:22CrossFit.
- 1:26:23If they were just their own event,
- 1:26:25they'd be hugely successful.
- 1:26:29I guess I didn't correlate that to also
- 1:26:32the Masters and the team games.
- 1:26:41Now I do.
- 1:26:43And now what's the feeder count?
- 1:26:45Is Micah going to host a different Magic
- 1:26:47City?
- 1:26:48Or does Legends come back with their
- 1:26:51December Legends to, like...
- 1:26:54I know MFC is getting their background,
- 1:26:56but, like, we need these comps.
- 1:26:58Those are great comps.
- 1:27:00People have to get experience to get to
- 1:27:03the game.
- 1:27:05You don't just keep adding spots.
- 1:27:06You don't make it to sixty people.
- 1:27:08You don't, like...
- 1:27:10You don't add the eighteen and nineteen
- 1:27:11division.
- 1:27:12MFC already added a thirty to thirty-four
- 1:27:14division.
- 1:27:15Like...
- 1:27:16These feeder comps are what should add the
- 1:27:18division,
- 1:27:19those side comps to get people experience.
- 1:27:22And when you get good enough,
- 1:27:23you will qualify.
- 1:27:26Right.
- 1:27:26Is he dropping magazine city?
- 1:27:27That's exactly my question because that's
- 1:27:29what happened to legend.
- 1:27:30Legends took on the game.
- 1:27:31Now legends is gone.
- 1:27:33Not all.
- 1:27:34Now all legends is going to do is
- 1:27:35their semifinal.
- 1:27:37That's it.
- 1:27:38So now we've lost as a master.
- 1:27:40We don't, we don't know this answer.
- 1:27:42Well,
- 1:27:43that's why we're having Mike on next week.
- 1:27:46But,
- 1:27:47but we know what happened with legends.
- 1:27:49And I always feel bad when we shit
- 1:27:51on Bob Joe,
- 1:27:52because I don't think like I,
- 1:27:54I went to legend.
- 1:27:55I like the, well, let's be clear.
- 1:27:59I shit on Bob and Joe because of
- 1:28:01personal issues and lack of,
- 1:28:09I lack of straightforwardness to me.
- 1:28:12I think they were put in an impossible
- 1:28:13situation.
- 1:28:14It was never going to be good.
- 1:28:16There was no, like,
- 1:28:18Again, when it's Legends,
- 1:28:20they can do what they want,
- 1:28:21just like Rogue can do what they want.
- 1:28:23It's their event.
- 1:28:25And here's the thing.
- 1:28:26MSV can always be this type of event,
- 1:28:28and Legends can always be the heavy event,
- 1:28:29and Magic City can be the one with
- 1:28:33the bike and the swim and whatnot.
- 1:28:38Now you're the games,
- 1:28:39and there's way too much pressure and eyes
- 1:28:43put on you.
- 1:28:43To me,
- 1:28:46I just don't think you're getting...
- 1:28:49the tools from CrossFit to succeed.
- 1:28:51And now you've been pigeonholed.
- 1:28:55He's going to get shit on,
- 1:28:55just like Bob and Joe.
- 1:28:56I always felt bad for shitting on Bob
- 1:28:58and Joe,
- 1:28:59but you have to speak up and give
- 1:29:00the feedback about the programming.
- 1:29:02And I've tried to make that clear.
- 1:29:06I think a lot of it is CrossFit's
- 1:29:08oversight issue.
- 1:29:09I've tried to always make that clear.
- 1:29:10I don't think they're doing a debriefing.
- 1:29:12I don't think they're doing...
- 1:29:13And they weren't given the tools to
- 1:29:16succeed, in my opinion.
- 1:29:21Again,
- 1:29:22I shit on Bob and Joe because I
- 1:29:25did a documentary for them.
- 1:29:26They didn't even bother to share it,
- 1:29:28look at it.
- 1:29:30Made me give them all of my content.
- 1:29:33The following year, I got zero access.
- 1:29:38That's why I shit on Bob and Joe.
- 1:29:40I have my own personal beefs as to
- 1:29:43why I do.
- 1:29:47I also think that they...
- 1:29:52they got lazy after they got the games.
- 1:29:56I can see that.
- 1:29:57I think, but again,
- 1:29:58I think it may have been born out
- 1:29:59of frustration and lack of like give and
- 1:30:03take with CrossFit.
- 1:30:05Like I, I might get lazy too.
- 1:30:06Like if you're asked for things and you're
- 1:30:08not getting it,
- 1:30:08if you ask for a tall rig and
- 1:30:10a short rig shows up and you're just
- 1:30:11like, F it,
- 1:30:12why am I even doing this?
- 1:30:14But if you get to that point,
- 1:30:15you shouldn't be doing it anymore.
- 1:30:16Fair.
- 1:30:17It's fair.
- 1:30:18I mean,
- 1:30:23The fact that there was nothing at the
- 1:30:26games this year that even resembled a
- 1:30:29game-style workout for Masters was utter
- 1:30:32laziness.
- 1:30:35The whole wall ball run,
- 1:30:39medicine ball run,
- 1:30:40and injuring people was laziness.
- 1:30:45There was a lot of things that were
- 1:30:46lazy.
- 1:30:49They are not excused, to my point,
- 1:30:52in my book, from being shit on.
- 1:30:57And I do think Micah does try to
- 1:30:59make things special.
- 1:31:00He does try to elevate the workouts to
- 1:31:03a point that are better than your local
- 1:31:05comp.
- 1:31:06But I get... You have swayed me.
- 1:31:10The problem is CrossFit HQ oversight and
- 1:31:13them...
- 1:31:15abstaining from all responsibility but
- 1:31:20keeping the money correct i mean we went
- 1:31:23through this i told like i did ran
- 1:31:25the numbers and i do have tons of
- 1:31:28questions for micah because like i clearly
- 1:31:31like i don't know how much it costs
- 1:31:33to rent a stadium and there i have
- 1:31:35so many questions and probably never get
- 1:31:37this answer from anyone because no one
- 1:31:39will be forthright but like
- 1:31:42does it does it cost five hundred thousand
- 1:31:44dollars for the weekend to rent rent sap
- 1:31:46stadium like what what exactly are we
- 1:31:49working with here does it cost a hundred
- 1:31:50thousand to rent the desert that asu
- 1:31:53campus for the weekend for desert city
- 1:31:55class classic i just think if you got
- 1:32:01twenty thousand masters to sign up for
- 1:32:05your open as
- 1:32:09And just like you would have so much
- 1:32:12money to work with.
- 1:32:13I think CrossFit is killing the community
- 1:32:18and just holding on to all this money.
- 1:32:19You cannot tell me it's not profitable.
- 1:32:21I don't believe it.
- 1:32:26Phil B. makes a great point.
- 1:32:27You can see what they've done to the
- 1:32:29teams.
- 1:32:30They don't care about them either.
- 1:32:32But at least they pay for them.
- 1:32:36But what I do want to say is,
- 1:32:40and I just lost it.
- 1:32:44Oh,
- 1:32:45the one thing I will give Bob and
- 1:32:47Joe as a pass for last year is,
- 1:32:51I am sure that in Arizona,
- 1:32:53they had relationships with who they
- 1:32:57worked with there and probably got better
- 1:32:58deals on the venues.
- 1:33:02And I'm sure Micah has a great deal
- 1:33:05in Birmingham because he's been there so
- 1:33:07long.
- 1:33:07He probably has deals with the Chamber of
- 1:33:09Commerce.
- 1:33:10He probably has other benefits from being
- 1:33:17there for so long.
- 1:33:18By CrossFit picking them up and making
- 1:33:20them go to San Jose,
- 1:33:22to this really expensive hockey arena...
- 1:33:25Not only did they say,
- 1:33:27take this off of our hands,
- 1:33:28but we're going to hand tie you because
- 1:33:30we're going to make you do it in
- 1:33:31this location at this price.
- 1:33:34Over here without getting any benefit of
- 1:33:37the ticket sales as a group.
- 1:33:40Couldn't even share one third of the
- 1:33:42ticket sales and do it in one spot.
- 1:33:45When you probably could have added two
- 1:33:46days to the venue of an SAB center
- 1:33:49for a whole lot cheaper than also running
- 1:33:51the convention center.
- 1:33:52Makes no sense.
- 1:33:56All right.
- 1:33:58Well, we're over.
- 1:33:58I know.
- 1:34:01I'm hot now.
- 1:34:04Uh,
- 1:34:05do you know what the best part is?
- 1:34:06We'll be back next week.
- 1:34:08We'll have Mike on here.
- 1:34:09You can tell him all your thoughts and
- 1:34:11feelings,
- 1:34:13and then none of us will get it
- 1:34:14to go to the games.
- 1:34:17Just kidding.
- 1:34:18I don't think he's that way.
- 1:34:19I think like he's,
- 1:34:21he's open to discussion.
- 1:34:24Um,
- 1:34:26So we'll have him on.
- 1:34:27I encourage you to,
- 1:34:28if you care about the masters and you
- 1:34:31want to know answers to questions,
- 1:34:34be in the chat, ask questions.
- 1:34:39Other Masters podcasts have had them on,
- 1:34:41but they're not live.
- 1:34:42They don't give you the opportunity to ask
- 1:34:45the questions.
- 1:34:46We're going to give you that opportunity
- 1:34:47next week.
- 1:34:49With that...
- 1:34:50Put some in this show that you want,
- 1:34:52so we can be prepared with some questions,
- 1:34:53if you have some burning questions that
- 1:34:55you want answered.
- 1:34:56Yeah, we've got a few,
- 1:34:58but if you want some,
- 1:34:59go ahead and throw them in the comments
- 1:35:02below,
- 1:35:03and we'll prep those up for Micah next
- 1:35:05week.
- 1:35:06With that,
- 1:35:06we'll see everybody next time on...
- 1:35:10Sunday, Sunday,
- 1:35:11Sunday night CrossFit talk.