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- WEBVTT 00:00:11.400 --> 00:00:13.660 What's up, friends? Welcome into another episode 00:00:13.660 --> 00:00:16.260 of Tables, Tailgates, and Top Loaders. So happy 00:00:16.260 --> 00:00:19.140 to have you all aboard for this episode. I am 00:00:19.140 --> 00:00:21.600 your host, as always, TB. Thank you very much 00:00:21.600 --> 00:00:23.620 for stopping in and checking out the three Ts. 00:00:24.140 --> 00:00:26.500 Have a lot to get to. But we're going to do things 00:00:26.500 --> 00:00:28.839 a little bit differently this week because we 00:00:28.839 --> 00:00:31.660 are on a bye week. So I figured, hey, let's mix 00:00:31.660 --> 00:00:33.579 it up a little bit. Let's have some fun. Let's 00:00:33.579 --> 00:00:36.000 do some stuff a little bit out of the norm. There 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:38.060 are a couple news items I do want to hit before 00:00:38.060 --> 00:00:39.979 we get into it. We're going to start with the 00:00:39.979 --> 00:00:43.450 Cardboard Enthusiast. card marks how the heck 00:00:43.450 --> 00:00:46.409 are we feeling it is a big week if you are a 00:00:46.409 --> 00:00:49.670 fan of basketball collecting because this is 00:00:49.670 --> 00:00:53.990 the debut of 2025 -2026 tops basketball it comes 00:00:53.990 --> 00:00:57.950 out this thursday october 23rd and it's it's 00:00:57.950 --> 00:01:00.310 pretty buzzy i gotta tell you it's pretty buzzy 00:01:00.310 --> 00:01:02.829 and i haven't collected basketball cards since 00:01:02.829 --> 00:01:05.150 i was a little kid since the early 90s i want 00:01:05.150 --> 00:01:07.530 to say little kid but you know probably what 00:01:07.530 --> 00:01:10.370 13 14 years old when i was really getting into 00:01:10.370 --> 00:01:13.870 collecting and And I loved collecting Topps basketball 00:01:13.870 --> 00:01:17.430 cards, the NBA hoops, the Skybox basketball cards, 00:01:17.510 --> 00:01:19.689 all that stuff with Jordan and all those guys. 00:01:19.969 --> 00:01:22.930 That was my jam. That was my wheelhouse. I loved 00:01:22.930 --> 00:01:25.510 it. For some reason, once Jordan retired, I didn't 00:01:25.510 --> 00:01:27.750 really get into collecting or I didn't continue 00:01:27.750 --> 00:01:30.250 to collect basketball cards too much. But I got 00:01:30.250 --> 00:01:32.109 to tell you, folks, I'm looking at this Topps 00:01:32.109 --> 00:01:34.030 release that's coming up Thursday. And I keep 00:01:34.030 --> 00:01:37.670 diving a little deeper into this release. I don't 00:01:37.670 --> 00:01:40.489 know. It's giving me the feels like I might want 00:01:40.489 --> 00:01:43.590 to dive in. I did miss the pre -order, but they 00:01:43.590 --> 00:01:46.209 are going to be releasing some more product on 00:01:46.209 --> 00:01:48.450 Thursday. This is when everything drops. This 00:01:48.450 --> 00:01:50.730 is when everything drops. There's a lot of variations. 00:01:50.969 --> 00:01:53.090 You got your hobby boxes. You got your jumbo 00:01:53.090 --> 00:01:55.629 hobbies. You got your megas. You got your value 00:01:55.629 --> 00:01:58.969 boxes. This product is going to be produced to 00:01:58.969 --> 00:02:01.650 the absolute moon. But I got to tell you, I am 00:02:01.650 --> 00:02:04.769 starting to maybe have a lot of interest in this 00:02:04.769 --> 00:02:07.890 thing. This is the first licensed. tops basketball 00:02:07.890 --> 00:02:12.610 products since the 2009 2010 season and if you 00:02:12.610 --> 00:02:15.150 are a collector of tops baseball i have talked 00:02:15.150 --> 00:02:17.550 about this before but if you've seen the 2025 00:02:17.550 --> 00:02:21.110 tops baseball card series 1 series 2 and soon 00:02:21.110 --> 00:02:23.990 to be released update the basketball release 00:02:23.990 --> 00:02:26.509 coming out thursday is going to have the almost 00:02:26.509 --> 00:02:29.669 the exact same look the design of the base cards 00:02:29.669 --> 00:02:31.870 is going to look very similar and a lot of the 00:02:31.870 --> 00:02:33.550 inserts which we'll talk about here in a minute 00:02:33.550 --> 00:02:36.210 they take similar spins of some of the inserts 00:02:36.330 --> 00:02:38.370 baseball has done. But I got to tell you, I like 00:02:38.370 --> 00:02:42.590 it. I think not only does it look pretty cool, 00:02:42.750 --> 00:02:44.650 I think they're playing it. I think they're going 00:02:44.650 --> 00:02:47.430 to do a good job on this. I actually have high 00:02:47.430 --> 00:02:49.150 hopes for this product. Now, this is going to 00:02:49.150 --> 00:02:51.870 be a 300 -card base set. And so I was looking 00:02:51.870 --> 00:02:54.669 through the base set, looking through the list, 00:02:54.830 --> 00:02:57.009 looking through the checklist. And while I don't 00:02:57.009 --> 00:02:58.930 know too much about the current NBA product, 00:02:59.129 --> 00:03:00.990 I don't watch too much. I did watch some of the 00:03:00.990 --> 00:03:03.370 playoffs at the end of last season, but my kids 00:03:03.370 --> 00:03:05.469 are digging it. they're they're into it they 00:03:05.469 --> 00:03:07.650 they are starting to follow it so i'm thinking 00:03:07.650 --> 00:03:10.849 well maybe i will try to dive back in but the 00:03:10.849 --> 00:03:14.250 base set like i said 300 cards and the last 20 00:03:14.250 --> 00:03:17.210 are actually retired superstars like retired 00:03:17.210 --> 00:03:19.250 really good Hall of Fame players like there's 00:03:19.250 --> 00:03:22.110 some some pretty cool players on this checklist 00:03:22.110 --> 00:03:25.090 some of the players I used to love watching Allen 00:03:25.090 --> 00:03:28.330 Iverson Magic Johnson Carmelo Anthony from this 00:03:28.330 --> 00:03:32.069 you know the one championship I got to watch 00:03:32.069 --> 00:03:34.569 for the Syracuse Orangemen back in the day good 00:03:34.569 --> 00:03:37.030 old Carmelo but you have Larry Bird Shaquille 00:03:37.030 --> 00:03:39.689 O 'Neal you have Tracy McGrady John Stockton 00:03:39.689 --> 00:03:41.909 Spud Webb I mean some of these guys are pretty 00:03:41.909 --> 00:03:44.909 cool Isaiah Thomas, which I couldn't stand being 00:03:44.909 --> 00:03:47.129 a Bulls fan back in the day. But, you know, I 00:03:47.129 --> 00:03:48.889 would love to get my hands on an Allen Iverson 00:03:48.889 --> 00:03:51.129 card. That would look awesome. But, yeah, I'm 00:03:51.129 --> 00:03:54.050 checking this product out, and I think it has 00:03:54.050 --> 00:03:59.590 the ability to be pretty good. Some of the issues 00:03:59.590 --> 00:04:02.400 that I see, just like all Topps products. there's 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:05.639 gonna be a ridiculous amount of parallels. I 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:08.080 mean, ridiculous, but you have to understand 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:10.520 that this is their time to shine, right? And 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:12.300 I think they're gonna market this product for 00:04:12.300 --> 00:04:15.680 literally everybody. So taking the license over 00:04:15.680 --> 00:04:18.800 is a huge deal. Like I said, it's been, what, 00:04:18.899 --> 00:04:22.600 16 years since they've had the rights to put 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:26.000 logos on the players for these cards. Last year, 00:04:26.019 --> 00:04:29.500 we saw some not -too -nice Topps releases for 00:04:29.500 --> 00:04:31.079 basketball product. They just look terrible. 00:04:31.660 --> 00:04:35.779 You did have... Victor Wembignana, who was signing 00:04:35.779 --> 00:04:38.019 autos in some of the Topps releases. But there 00:04:38.019 --> 00:04:40.939 was no Spurs logos. There was nothing to show 00:04:40.939 --> 00:04:43.560 you that he was on the team. And the cars just 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:45.699 look terrible. They look terrible. So I think 00:04:45.699 --> 00:04:48.360 they released like, what was it? Cosmic and some 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:50.259 other different variations. And the products 00:04:50.259 --> 00:04:52.360 just look terrible. But this, I think they're 00:04:52.360 --> 00:04:54.399 pulling out all the stops. And I think this product 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:56.819 is going to be pretty good. And no matter what 00:04:56.819 --> 00:04:59.639 your price point is, I think you can get your 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:01.279 hands on these cards. So it's going to be very 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:03.600 similar to... series one and series two for baseball 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:05.779 and i don't think that's a bad thing and people 00:05:05.779 --> 00:05:08.060 are out there going crazy about this oh it's 00:05:08.060 --> 00:05:10.920 printed to the moon yeah well look tops is getting 00:05:10.920 --> 00:05:12.939 back in the game for base for basketball rather 00:05:12.939 --> 00:05:16.819 and i think it's a smart play you want to be 00:05:16.819 --> 00:05:19.360 able to have everyone who wants to get their 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:21.100 hands on it get their hands on it and i think 00:05:21.100 --> 00:05:22.800 it's a good thing but some of the some of the 00:05:22.800 --> 00:05:24.680 inserts i really do think some of the inserts 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:27.910 are pretty cool They have a home court insert, 00:05:28.029 --> 00:05:29.910 which is very similar. If you follow baseball, 00:05:30.110 --> 00:05:32.350 the baseball releases, baseball has a home field 00:05:32.350 --> 00:05:34.490 advantage card. So they take the player, they 00:05:34.490 --> 00:05:36.829 take the city that they're associated with, and 00:05:36.829 --> 00:05:39.350 they put some sort of logo or picture that would 00:05:39.350 --> 00:05:41.230 let you know, hey, this is the city that they're 00:05:41.230 --> 00:05:43.290 with. I love these cards. And then they're doing 00:05:43.290 --> 00:05:45.110 the same thing for basketball. So it's called 00:05:45.110 --> 00:05:47.850 a home court insert. For example, Victor, Victor's 00:05:47.850 --> 00:05:51.269 got his Spurs card there that shows a picture 00:05:51.269 --> 00:05:53.389 of the Alamo behind him. And it also shows a 00:05:53.389 --> 00:05:55.949 UFO kind of floating on top of the car. obviously 00:05:55.949 --> 00:05:59.449 because his nickname is the alien and these just 00:05:59.449 --> 00:06:00.790 look really cool i think they're going to be 00:06:00.790 --> 00:06:03.610 good chases that people are going to want i guess 00:06:03.610 --> 00:06:06.930 these are coming in one every 2400 hobby packs 00:06:06.930 --> 00:06:10.649 and then one every one in every 400 jumbo hobby 00:06:10.649 --> 00:06:13.250 packs so pretty tough pull pretty tough pull 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:16.560 Another big one, the numbered variation parallel. 00:06:16.860 --> 00:06:19.420 Baseball also had this one as well. And I love 00:06:19.420 --> 00:06:22.500 this idea. Like I said before, there's tons of 00:06:22.500 --> 00:06:24.740 parallels, tons of variations, but this is a 00:06:24.740 --> 00:06:27.459 numbered parallel that's associated directly 00:06:27.459 --> 00:06:29.920 with the player's jersey number. So for example, 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:32.740 if you are talking about Victor, the card has 00:06:32.740 --> 00:06:36.480 a outline that is a... That is the number of 00:06:36.480 --> 00:06:39.000 the player. So for Victor, it's got ones all 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:42.120 over the border. And obviously with him being 00:06:42.120 --> 00:06:45.100 one, there's only one card. Now LeBron has one 00:06:45.100 --> 00:06:48.209 as well. It has 23s all over it, and his are 00:06:48.209 --> 00:06:50.790 going to be number 223. So some pretty tough 00:06:50.790 --> 00:06:53.310 pulls. I think you're looking at one in every 00:06:53.310 --> 00:06:57.610 5 ,200 hobby packs. So that's crazy, but these 00:06:57.610 --> 00:06:59.910 are huge case hits, and I think it's a really 00:06:59.910 --> 00:07:02.610 cool product. Sticking with Victor, this is his 00:07:02.610 --> 00:07:05.529 first. He's exclusive to Fanatics, and obviously 00:07:05.529 --> 00:07:08.290 Tops and Fanatics are pretty much the same thing 00:07:08.290 --> 00:07:11.310 now. Fanatics owns Tops, so this is Victor's 00:07:11.310 --> 00:07:14.850 first licensed autograph. pulling his cards now, 00:07:15.029 --> 00:07:17.110 it's going to be, it's going to be a pretty big 00:07:17.110 --> 00:07:18.689 deal. Pretty big deal. Some of the other stuff 00:07:18.689 --> 00:07:22.990 I liked the 45th anniversary, real one autos, 00:07:23.009 --> 00:07:27.149 um, that are on the tops loves to do these throwback 00:07:27.149 --> 00:07:29.129 cards. And I think there's some of my favorites. 00:07:29.209 --> 00:07:32.310 So they stamp a 45th anniversary sticker or stamp 00:07:32.310 --> 00:07:34.649 on the upper left corner. And this is reflective 00:07:34.649 --> 00:07:39.269 of the 1980 81 season tops design. So I love 00:07:39.269 --> 00:07:42.509 when they do this, a big fan of like retro stuff. 00:07:43.050 --> 00:07:44.910 And I just think it's really cool. Another thing 00:07:44.910 --> 00:07:47.410 I like, they have an all Kings insert. This is 00:07:47.410 --> 00:07:50.589 very similar to the diamond aces for baseball. 00:07:50.889 --> 00:07:53.430 Some of the inserts are just really, really cool. 00:07:53.550 --> 00:07:55.970 So I am looking forward to it. I know at the 00:07:55.970 --> 00:07:58.310 time of pre -order, you were looking at about 00:07:58.310 --> 00:08:02.079 120 for a hobby box. Now that. you weren't guaranteed 00:08:02.079 --> 00:08:05.160 an auto. It was either one auto or one relic 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:07.319 card and everyone craps all over the relics. 00:08:07.379 --> 00:08:10.019 I get it. I get it. But jumbo hobbies, I think 00:08:10.019 --> 00:08:13.660 you were looking at around two 30 to two 40 for 00:08:13.660 --> 00:08:16.980 a jumbo hobby, which look, if you compare this 00:08:16.980 --> 00:08:19.160 to some of the panini products, especially football 00:08:19.160 --> 00:08:21.360 and, and all these products that are coming out 00:08:21.360 --> 00:08:24.319 and the cheapest you could get a hobby box is 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:27.339 four or five, $600. If you're telling me I can 00:08:27.339 --> 00:08:30.970 buy a jumbo and get nearly 400 cards, almost 00:08:30.970 --> 00:08:34.470 a complete base set in one box. And I'm only 00:08:34.470 --> 00:08:37.409 dropping maybe 250 on this and I could get a 00:08:37.409 --> 00:08:40.230 lot of potential for really cool autographs. 00:08:40.230 --> 00:08:43.389 I might take a jump on this. I think it's gonna 00:08:43.389 --> 00:08:45.649 be good. I think it's gonna be good. So I'm super 00:08:45.649 --> 00:08:48.549 excited. That comes out Thursday. That will be... 00:08:48.990 --> 00:08:50.889 Awesome. Can't wait to see some of these early 00:08:50.889 --> 00:08:53.289 rips and videos and see what people are posting. 00:08:53.330 --> 00:08:56.690 And maybe I have my email set, my email notification. 00:08:57.110 --> 00:08:58.809 Topps is supposed to tell me when this product 00:08:58.809 --> 00:09:01.230 goes live. We shall see how many minutes it takes 00:09:01.230 --> 00:09:04.269 for the Hobbies and Jumbo Hobbies to sell out. 00:09:04.490 --> 00:09:07.769 But maybe your boy is going to drop an order 00:09:07.769 --> 00:09:10.490 and try to grab me a box. I managed to jump back 00:09:10.490 --> 00:09:13.500 in with the Topps update. for baseball, and I'm 00:09:13.500 --> 00:09:14.919 looking forward to that. Apparently, that got 00:09:14.919 --> 00:09:17.399 pushed. Nobody said anything about that. Apparently, 00:09:17.399 --> 00:09:20.100 that got pushed all the way into the second week 00:09:20.100 --> 00:09:22.220 of November, which kind of sucks, but I see what 00:09:22.220 --> 00:09:24.100 they're doing. I really think they're clearing 00:09:24.100 --> 00:09:27.419 everything out of the way for NBA basketball 00:09:27.419 --> 00:09:31.389 that's coming up. thursday and then is it going 00:09:31.389 --> 00:09:33.549 to coincide with the start of the season i think 00:09:33.549 --> 00:09:35.490 that the first game of the season is thursday 00:09:35.490 --> 00:09:39.110 so hey that's perfect timing if i'm tops yeah 00:09:39.110 --> 00:09:42.470 clear the deck line this up with the opening 00:09:42.470 --> 00:09:45.809 tip off and away we go so i'm pretty excited 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:48.139 I haven't been collecting basketball in quite 00:09:48.139 --> 00:09:51.240 some time and maybe it's time to dive back in. 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:53.399 So like I said, this episode is going to be a 00:09:53.399 --> 00:09:55.399 little bit different. Obviously the bills are 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:58.080 on a bye week and wrestling. I need to take a 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:00.620 break from wrestling after all the stuff that 00:10:00.620 --> 00:10:03.480 we were doing with the John Cena thing. And we 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:05.940 did a deep dive into his retirement tour so far 00:10:05.940 --> 00:10:09.320 and crown jewel. Whatever. So I'm kind of going 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:11.679 to put wrestling on the back burner this week 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:14.779 because there's really not a ton going on. We're 00:10:14.779 --> 00:10:17.039 going to dive right back in real soon. Don't 00:10:17.039 --> 00:10:19.320 worry, folks. But what I wanted to do is kind 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:23.000 of mix it up a little bit. This is the bye week 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:25.720 for bills. And a couple of things before we dive 00:10:25.720 --> 00:10:28.740 into this little exercise I got going on. Let's 00:10:28.740 --> 00:10:31.240 talk about all the trades the bills have made 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:34.799 so far. It's 4 p .m. on Monday afternoon and 00:10:34.799 --> 00:10:37.799 the bills have made. No trades. No trades. That's 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:39.519 right. We did not play this weekend. We've been 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:43.600 off for, what, eight days, nine days now? Actually, 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:46.159 about a week since we lost to the Falcons. So 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:49.379 it's been a whole week. And there's no news coming 00:10:49.379 --> 00:10:51.659 out of One Bills Drive, Orchard Park. Nothing 00:10:51.659 --> 00:10:55.659 going on. No trades for Chris Olave yet. We're 00:10:55.659 --> 00:10:57.759 hearing all sorts of rumors of who this team 00:10:57.759 --> 00:10:59.899 is supposed to be linked to. And there's all 00:10:59.899 --> 00:11:02.820 sorts of players allegedly available for trade. 00:11:02.899 --> 00:11:05.200 The Dolphins are in chaos. So they're talking 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:08.080 about Waddle being available. How do you all 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:11.100 feel about Jalen Waddle being a bill? I say if 00:11:11.100 --> 00:11:13.679 he is available and the Dolphins are dumb enough 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:15.740 to trade him within the division, I think he 00:11:15.740 --> 00:11:18.740 would be just as great an option as the Chris 00:11:18.740 --> 00:11:23.259 Olavi idea that I love. And so. the bills have 00:11:23.259 --> 00:11:25.279 done nothing i don't know what they're waiting 00:11:25.279 --> 00:11:27.559 for i understand that the trade deadline is coming 00:11:27.559 --> 00:11:30.960 up in what another two weeks two and a half weeks 00:11:30.960 --> 00:11:33.460 something like that but you had the bye week 00:11:33.460 --> 00:11:36.879 like get the guy in camp get him in your building 00:11:36.879 --> 00:11:40.299 and let's roll because things ain't gonna get 00:11:40.299 --> 00:11:42.299 easier i know we have the panthers coming up 00:11:42.570 --> 00:11:44.809 This Sunday, 1 o 'clock. Thank God. It's a 1 00:11:44.809 --> 00:11:46.889 o 'clock kickoff. I'm super excited for that. 00:11:47.269 --> 00:11:50.330 And I'm going to drop the game preview versus 00:11:50.330 --> 00:11:52.529 the Panthers probably later this week. You'll 00:11:52.529 --> 00:11:54.649 probably see that come out Thursday or Friday. 00:11:54.870 --> 00:11:57.330 But, yeah, I mean, after that, we got the Chiefs 00:11:57.330 --> 00:11:59.190 coming to town. So if you're going to make a 00:11:59.190 --> 00:12:01.570 move, I would have loved to have him kind of 00:12:01.570 --> 00:12:03.730 whoever that player is, whether it's a wide receiver, 00:12:03.830 --> 00:12:07.110 a cornerback, a safety, whomever you want to 00:12:07.110 --> 00:12:09.090 bring in. It would have been nice to have them 00:12:09.090 --> 00:12:11.730 dive into your playbook, get them in your building. 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:14.440 start practicing during this off week and then 00:12:14.440 --> 00:12:16.840 kind of slow play it a little bit for this carolina 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:20.899 game look if we i don't want to overreact to 00:12:20.899 --> 00:12:24.279 losing two in a row like side note quick quick 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:26.919 side note uh social media if you all have been 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:29.279 on social media in the last week over the weekend 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:32.080 as as the nfl world continues while we're on 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:35.320 a buy if you are on social media checking out 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:38.990 anything bills related you oh my god it's like 00:12:38.990 --> 00:12:41.129 the sky is falling and we're doomed and we're 00:12:41.129 --> 00:12:43.730 the worst team in the league and you know i can 00:12:43.730 --> 00:12:46.669 only stay on and i can only look at so many negative 00:12:46.669 --> 00:12:50.389 posts and nonsense from mafia members mafia guy 00:12:50.389 --> 00:12:53.549 like i i love you all but what like y 'all need 00:12:53.549 --> 00:12:56.190 something else in your life go take a walk go 00:12:56.190 --> 00:13:00.950 see a show go to the movies go i don't know Go 00:13:00.950 --> 00:13:04.730 to a zoo. Do something because y 'all are sitting 00:13:04.730 --> 00:13:07.470 on social media and just crushing everybody and 00:13:07.470 --> 00:13:12.470 everything's doom and gloom and the sky is falling 00:13:12.470 --> 00:13:15.929 and it's just awful. It's awful being a Bills 00:13:15.929 --> 00:13:18.090 fan listening to other Bills fans. I'm sorry. 00:13:18.190 --> 00:13:20.269 I love you all, but you all are freaking ridiculous. 00:13:20.529 --> 00:13:23.860 Y 'all need to take a deep breath. There's reasons 00:13:23.860 --> 00:13:26.700 for optimism. Yes, there's reasons for pessimism. 00:13:26.700 --> 00:13:29.100 You all can choose which side of the spectrum 00:13:29.100 --> 00:13:31.779 you wanna be on. I can't operate there anymore. 00:13:31.899 --> 00:13:34.379 I used to live in the pessimistic side and it's 00:13:34.379 --> 00:13:38.320 just so defeating and demoralizing and it's just 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:40.820 a terrible negative place to be. And you just 00:13:40.820 --> 00:13:44.620 feel like crap when you, I don't know, I don't 00:13:44.620 --> 00:13:46.590 know. Y 'all need to make a decision like what 00:13:46.590 --> 00:13:49.769 kind of fan you want to be. And I'm not crapping 00:13:49.769 --> 00:13:53.250 on you either way. But I don't know. I get it. 00:13:53.269 --> 00:13:56.450 Like this team is so important to me too. But, 00:13:56.450 --> 00:13:59.169 man, we all need to go find some other hobbies 00:13:59.169 --> 00:14:01.490 too in addition to loving this team because. 00:14:04.360 --> 00:14:06.659 I don't know. I can only stay on this social 00:14:06.659 --> 00:14:08.679 stuff, social media stuff for so long, and it's 00:14:08.679 --> 00:14:12.059 ridiculous. But yeah, as I was saying, there's 00:14:12.059 --> 00:14:15.100 all these rumors right now about players available 00:14:15.100 --> 00:14:17.159 for trade, and what are we going to do? And I 00:14:17.159 --> 00:14:19.059 was really hoping the Bills would have something 00:14:19.059 --> 00:14:21.840 done real quick after that loss. Y 'all know 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:23.440 what you need. Y 'all know what you need, and 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:26.250 we've talked about it so many times. Safety, 00:14:26.250 --> 00:14:29.070 cornerback, wide receiver, maybe another linebacker 00:14:29.070 --> 00:14:32.809 if the Milano thing is going to be a long -term 00:14:32.809 --> 00:14:35.190 issue. We're already hearing that Jordan Poirier 00:14:35.190 --> 00:14:37.250 is going to be activated and he's probably going 00:14:37.250 --> 00:14:40.110 to be maybe the starting safety instead of Rapp 00:14:40.110 --> 00:14:42.789 because Rapp is just a train wreck right now. 00:14:42.909 --> 00:14:45.470 So Jordan Poirier, you want him as your starting 00:14:45.470 --> 00:14:47.769 safety? I don't know. Maybe. It can't be any 00:14:47.769 --> 00:14:50.509 worse at this point. But cornerback, we've talked 00:14:50.509 --> 00:14:53.350 about Trey White and Christian Benford for... 00:14:54.029 --> 00:14:57.370 forever terrell bernard he's been kind of disaster 00:14:57.370 --> 00:15:01.070 so far matt milano's hurt dorian williams is 00:15:01.070 --> 00:15:03.870 oh god there's so many holes in this team and 00:15:03.870 --> 00:15:06.120 then we talked about wide receiver time after 00:15:06.120 --> 00:15:08.240 time, game after game, and how the offense takes 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:12.059 these huge, long drives and chunks of the game 00:15:12.059 --> 00:15:15.200 off. Look, I hope they all had a nice break. 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:19.000 I hope that Joe Brady and McDermott and Bobby 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:21.940 Babich really decided to take a good, hard look 00:15:21.940 --> 00:15:24.340 at this team and what our needs were and what 00:15:24.340 --> 00:15:27.240 needed to be addressed, and they gave their wish 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:29.870 list to Brandon Bean, and he is... you know, 00:15:29.870 --> 00:15:32.649 working the lines, working them phones, working 00:15:32.649 --> 00:15:35.029 the magic as we speak, because a trade absolutely 00:15:35.029 --> 00:15:38.429 needs to be made. It needed to be made. I kind 00:15:38.429 --> 00:15:41.149 of disappointed it hasn't happened yet, but we 00:15:41.149 --> 00:15:43.629 shall see what happens. So what do we want to 00:15:43.629 --> 00:15:45.629 do on this buy week? I don't want to sit here 00:15:45.629 --> 00:15:47.529 and I don't want to pull up articles about how 00:15:47.529 --> 00:15:49.509 the bills are screwed and this, that, and the 00:15:49.509 --> 00:15:51.529 other. What I wanted to do in keeping with this 00:15:51.529 --> 00:15:55.450 theme of buy, I wanted to see and take a look 00:15:55.450 --> 00:15:57.590 at some of the players and some of the trades 00:15:57.590 --> 00:16:00.600 the bills have made. Over the years, some of 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:02.940 the players the Bills have decided to say goodbye 00:16:02.940 --> 00:16:07.340 to over the last 20 years of their storied franchise. 00:16:07.539 --> 00:16:10.179 I thought it'd be fun to kind of see, hey, did 00:16:10.179 --> 00:16:12.200 this deal work out? Was this a good thing? Was 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:14.860 this a bad thing? With all this talk surrounding 00:16:14.860 --> 00:16:17.419 the trade market now, I thought it might be fun 00:16:17.419 --> 00:16:19.940 to do. So where did I start? I got in the DeLorean 00:16:19.940 --> 00:16:23.620 and I headed all the way back to 2003. That's 00:16:23.620 --> 00:16:26.120 right. If y 'all remember a great wide receiver 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:28.320 by the name of Peerless Price. He was one of 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:30.559 my favorites. He was one of my favorites. He 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:32.639 was coming off a monster season where he had 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:36.679 94 catches and 1 ,200 yards receiving. He was 00:16:36.679 --> 00:16:39.440 a beast. So what did the Bills do? They decided, 00:16:39.539 --> 00:16:42.019 I think they put the franchise tag on him, which 00:16:42.019 --> 00:16:46.600 was crazy back in 2003. What did they decide 00:16:46.600 --> 00:16:48.460 to do? Because they were so cheap, they didn't 00:16:48.460 --> 00:16:51.240 want to pay him. They shipped him off to Atlanta. 00:16:51.539 --> 00:16:54.000 And who was the quarterback of the Falcons back 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:56.899 in 2003? This was none other than Michael Vick. 00:16:57.039 --> 00:16:59.779 Yep, that's right, that Michael Vick. So the 00:16:59.779 --> 00:17:02.840 Falcons actually gave us a first -round draft 00:17:02.840 --> 00:17:05.960 pick for Peerless Price, which if you look at 00:17:05.960 --> 00:17:08.299 that deal now and you think of that deal now, 00:17:08.420 --> 00:17:10.680 that's unheard of. That'd be like, I mean... 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:12.759 That's Justin Jefferson territory right there. 00:17:12.839 --> 00:17:15.059 I know Justin would probably get, what, two first 00:17:15.059 --> 00:17:17.900 round picks at least and then some. But Peerless 00:17:17.900 --> 00:17:20.559 Price, yeah, he was solid. But holy cow, he wasn't 00:17:20.559 --> 00:17:22.539 like a top five wide receiver in the league. 00:17:22.619 --> 00:17:25.640 But the Falcons were desperate to get Vic some 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:28.160 help. And so they gave us a first round pick 00:17:28.160 --> 00:17:32.859 in the draft there. And it ended up being the 00:17:32.859 --> 00:17:35.259 23rd overall pick. So what do we do with it? 00:17:35.339 --> 00:17:38.890 We went and drafted. Out of Miami, none other 00:17:38.890 --> 00:17:41.869 than Willis McGahee. Now, if you remember the 00:17:41.869 --> 00:17:45.509 national championship game, it was McGahee and 00:17:45.509 --> 00:17:48.170 he blew out his knee and suffered a terrible, 00:17:48.349 --> 00:17:51.049 pretty catastrophic knee injury. So what the 00:17:51.049 --> 00:17:53.730 Bills do in their infinite wisdom back in 2003, 00:17:53.950 --> 00:17:56.250 they decided, hey, well, that sounds like a great 00:17:56.250 --> 00:17:58.269 idea. Let's draft this guy who's not going to 00:17:58.269 --> 00:18:01.089 be able to play for an entire year. And so they 00:18:01.089 --> 00:18:04.359 drafted McGahee and he. Then proceeded to sit 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:08.099 the entire season. And, I mean, he was fine for 00:18:08.099 --> 00:18:10.640 us. Like, I really enjoyed watching him play 00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:13.200 when he was on the field. Yeah, I don't know. 00:18:13.279 --> 00:18:17.059 That deal, win, loss, I guess it was fine. We 00:18:17.059 --> 00:18:19.440 weren't really going anywhere at the time. But, 00:18:19.460 --> 00:18:22.480 yeah, so that was definitely an interesting one. 00:18:22.599 --> 00:18:25.779 I would say we probably won that deal because 00:18:25.779 --> 00:18:27.839 Peerless Price really didn't do much of anything 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:30.960 on the Falcons. And McGehee turned out to be. 00:18:31.390 --> 00:18:34.230 hi so then we fast forward this is another one 00:18:34.230 --> 00:18:36.390 i kind of saw and i was like oh this is crazy 00:18:36.390 --> 00:18:40.250 2009 we had everyone knows and remembers the 00:18:40.250 --> 00:18:43.369 awesome left tackle jason peters this guy was 00:18:43.369 --> 00:18:46.049 a freaking beast i mean i don't remember growing 00:18:46.049 --> 00:18:49.150 up in my 20s really knowing too many left tackles 00:18:49.150 --> 00:18:52.430 like it wasn't a thing that i really focused 00:18:52.430 --> 00:18:56.430 on i guess but jason peters was recognized throughout 00:18:56.430 --> 00:18:59.039 the entire league as being probably one of the 00:18:59.039 --> 00:19:01.660 top three left tackles in the game. This guy 00:19:01.660 --> 00:19:04.759 was a freaking stud. And the Bills didn't want 00:19:04.759 --> 00:19:06.299 to pay him either. I mean, you're going to see 00:19:06.299 --> 00:19:09.619 a trend here. So they traded him to the Philadelphia 00:19:09.619 --> 00:19:12.059 Eagles. Now, what did Philly give up for Jason 00:19:12.059 --> 00:19:15.240 Peters? They gave us a first, a fourth, and a 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:18.039 sixth round pick for Jason Peters. Now the fourth 00:19:18.039 --> 00:19:20.660 and the sixth kind of turned into nothing. And 00:19:20.660 --> 00:19:23.640 so what we did, we ended up drafting Eric Wood, 00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:25.859 who was the center, with our first round pick. 00:19:26.019 --> 00:19:28.420 Now Eric Wood, I love Eric Wood. Eric Wood is 00:19:28.420 --> 00:19:30.599 probably one of the guys I would consider getting 00:19:30.599 --> 00:19:33.519 a jersey for. You know, some of these older historic 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:36.240 Bills, I think he's great. I think he had a great 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:39.059 career with the Bills. Unfortunately, he never 00:19:39.059 --> 00:19:42.240 won anything. And even worse, he had to retire. 00:19:42.410 --> 00:19:47.450 because of a neck injury. And that kind of just 00:19:47.450 --> 00:19:51.210 derailed what was a pretty solid, pretty great 00:19:51.210 --> 00:19:54.470 career. But Jason Peters for Eric Wood. I mean, 00:19:54.470 --> 00:19:57.109 I love Eric Wood, but Jason Peters was a stud. 00:19:57.190 --> 00:20:00.190 So I think we absolutely got hosed on that deal. 00:20:00.289 --> 00:20:02.950 And then probably one of the worst trades we've 00:20:02.950 --> 00:20:06.509 ever made. 2010, good old Marshawn Lynch. Now, 00:20:06.509 --> 00:20:09.160 Marshawn Lynch. He had been on the team for a 00:20:09.160 --> 00:20:10.579 couple of years and he had been getting into 00:20:10.579 --> 00:20:13.519 some trouble and, you know, kind of seen as like 00:20:13.519 --> 00:20:16.180 this malcontent. I know he had some issues with 00:20:16.180 --> 00:20:18.579 driving and things like that and some weapons 00:20:18.579 --> 00:20:21.980 charges. So he wasn't really looked at too favorably. 00:20:22.019 --> 00:20:25.920 So here comes the Seattle Seahawks and Pete Carroll. 00:20:26.019 --> 00:20:29.480 If you remember this, Pete Carroll was after 00:20:29.480 --> 00:20:34.079 Lynch and he wanted the Bills to. trade him to 00:20:34.079 --> 00:20:38.259 seattle so badly and so you think oh this is 00:20:38.259 --> 00:20:39.759 going to be we're going to get a good deal out 00:20:39.759 --> 00:20:42.160 of this nope we got a fourth and a sixth round 00:20:42.160 --> 00:20:45.640 pick the fourth was in 2011 and the sixth was 00:20:45.640 --> 00:20:48.779 a whole year later in 2012 who do we get out 00:20:48.779 --> 00:20:51.119 of this essentially two absolute nobodies they're 00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:54.289 not even worth mentioning Lynch goes on to be 00:20:54.289 --> 00:20:58.670 an absolute superstar in Seattle. He coins the 00:20:58.670 --> 00:21:01.109 phrase beast mode. You want to talk about iconic 00:21:01.109 --> 00:21:04.009 moments in Seahawk history. Just the creation 00:21:04.009 --> 00:21:07.609 of beast mode. He goes on to score over 60 touchdowns 00:21:07.609 --> 00:21:10.789 for the Seahawks. Rushes for over 6 ,000 yards. 00:21:10.970 --> 00:21:12.950 Wins the Super Bowl. Becomes the fourth best 00:21:12.950 --> 00:21:16.130 rusher of all time for Seattle. Bills, you did 00:21:16.130 --> 00:21:19.190 terrible on that deal. That was atrocious. You 00:21:19.190 --> 00:21:21.250 should be ashamed of yourself. That was an absolute 00:21:21.250 --> 00:21:25.309 train wreck. and a red flag, red letter on the 00:21:25.309 --> 00:21:28.609 trading ledger books of the Buffalo Bills. So 00:21:28.609 --> 00:21:31.210 just a disaster, just an absolute freaking disaster. 00:21:31.549 --> 00:21:33.990 A year later, one of my favorite players, Lee 00:21:33.990 --> 00:21:36.990 Evans. I love Lee Evans. I thought he was super 00:21:36.990 --> 00:21:40.529 talented and he just got a raw deal because we 00:21:40.529 --> 00:21:43.049 never had a quarterback who could get him the 00:21:43.049 --> 00:21:46.470 ball. I loved the JP Lossman to Lee Evans connections 00:21:46.470 --> 00:21:50.170 when it could hit because Lossman, if he could. 00:21:50.430 --> 00:21:52.970 do one thing it was just chuck the rock similar 00:21:52.970 --> 00:21:55.269 to like Russ Wilson throwing the deep ball that's 00:21:55.269 --> 00:21:58.309 all Lossman could do was just throw these ridiculous 00:21:58.309 --> 00:22:00.650 moon balls and every once in a while Lee Evans 00:22:00.650 --> 00:22:02.650 would come down with it and you'd grab like a 00:22:02.650 --> 00:22:05.369 70 80 yard tutty and it would be magical but 00:22:05.369 --> 00:22:08.329 I love Lee Evans I think I wish I really wish 00:22:08.329 --> 00:22:10.690 we had a better team around him because I think 00:22:10.690 --> 00:22:14.190 Lee Evans would have been just a freaking superstar 00:22:14.190 --> 00:22:16.730 we just didn't have the team to support him and 00:22:16.730 --> 00:22:20.440 so it was kind of a train wreck of a career he 00:22:20.440 --> 00:22:22.740 played really well he was super quiet he went 00:22:22.740 --> 00:22:24.500 about his business he played super hard for the 00:22:24.500 --> 00:22:26.380 bills and then what do we do we shipped him off 00:22:26.380 --> 00:22:30.200 to Baltimore for a fourth round draft pick that 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:33.039 ended up being another absolute nobody player 00:22:33.039 --> 00:22:35.660 we drafted by the name of Ron Brooks he was a 00:22:35.660 --> 00:22:38.500 cornerback and he he was fine he's just like 00:22:38.500 --> 00:22:41.500 kind of a journeyman backup cornerback didn't 00:22:41.500 --> 00:22:44.690 do nothing So I don't think that deal really 00:22:44.690 --> 00:22:47.609 helped either team. Evans didn't do anything 00:22:47.609 --> 00:22:50.210 for the Ravens. And his career was kind of over 00:22:50.210 --> 00:22:52.710 at that point. But that deal was probably a wash. 00:22:52.930 --> 00:22:54.670 I mean, we only got a fourth rounder out of it. 00:22:54.769 --> 00:22:57.089 And yeah, just sad because looking back, like 00:22:57.089 --> 00:22:59.210 I said, Lee Evans was one of my favorite wide 00:22:59.210 --> 00:23:01.109 receivers to watch. And it's crazy if you think 00:23:01.109 --> 00:23:03.230 about it. That was only, what, 14 years ago. 00:23:03.329 --> 00:23:07.069 So not too terribly long. 2013, I found another 00:23:07.069 --> 00:23:10.130 one. We traded linebacker Kelvin Shepard. Y 'all 00:23:10.130 --> 00:23:12.710 remember this deal? We traded Kelvin. elvin shepherd 00:23:12.710 --> 00:23:15.269 to the colts this was two days after the nfl 00:23:15.269 --> 00:23:17.490 draft we traded him to the colts for another 00:23:17.490 --> 00:23:20.630 linebacker at the time jerry hughes now jerry 00:23:20.630 --> 00:23:23.910 hughes was like supposed to be this uh problem 00:23:23.910 --> 00:23:27.109 child over with the colts and i don't know there 00:23:27.109 --> 00:23:29.329 are a whole lot of red flags and warnings associated 00:23:29.329 --> 00:23:31.170 with jerry hughes well he comes over to buffalo 00:23:31.170 --> 00:23:35.470 and he switches to And he becomes one of the 00:23:35.470 --> 00:23:38.150 most successful pass rushers for the Bills in 00:23:38.150 --> 00:23:40.490 team's history. Obviously, he wasn't Bruce Smith, 00:23:40.630 --> 00:23:44.660 but he played quite some time for us. Yeah, and 00:23:44.660 --> 00:23:47.720 the other key to this deal, moving Shepard, trading 00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:49.680 Shepard to the Colts and bringing in Hughes, 00:23:49.799 --> 00:23:52.259 moving him from linebacker to defensive end. 00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:55.700 This allowed us to play our brand new drafted 00:23:55.700 --> 00:23:59.740 linebacker, Kiko Alonso, who was, I was so freaking 00:23:59.740 --> 00:24:02.319 high on this draft pick. It was awesome. And 00:24:02.319 --> 00:24:04.940 we wanted to start him at linebacker. And now 00:24:04.940 --> 00:24:07.420 here's an opportunity for him to slide right 00:24:07.420 --> 00:24:10.240 in there. So Kiko, I loved watching Kiko play. 00:24:10.420 --> 00:24:13.240 He was one of my favorite linebackers. But how 00:24:13.240 --> 00:24:16.140 far? did that go folks that lasted a whopping 00:24:16.140 --> 00:24:19.240 two years because then we decided to ship Kiko 00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:22.740 Alonzo off two years later 2015 to the Eagles 00:24:22.740 --> 00:24:26.519 and who do we get we got LaShawn McCoy and one 00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:29.359 of the craziest trades uh you will ever see I 00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:31.980 don't know to this day why the Eagles decided 00:24:31.980 --> 00:24:35.779 to do this deal it was nuts absolute nuts McCoy 00:24:35.779 --> 00:24:38.279 was an absolute beast he came over to Buffalo 00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:41.119 and was Probably one of the only bright spots 00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:44.200 on this roster for a few years. Kiko really didn't 00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:47.759 do much. He had a lot of injury history and he 00:24:47.759 --> 00:24:50.759 kind of flamed out real quick. So yeah, we definitely 00:24:50.759 --> 00:24:53.920 won that deal. As much as I was shocked to see 00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:57.799 Kiko go, but getting LaShawn back in that. Totally 00:24:57.799 --> 00:25:01.440 lopsided trade was pretty awesome. And then fast 00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:04.460 forward, probably the most famous current deal 00:25:04.460 --> 00:25:07.420 within the last couple years was obviously the 00:25:07.420 --> 00:25:10.579 deal we made last year, sending everyone's most 00:25:10.579 --> 00:25:15.660 hated wide receiver, Stephon Diggs, to the Houston 00:25:15.660 --> 00:25:20.519 Texans for, well, we not only sent Stephon Diggs. 00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:24.259 We sent them a sixth round pick in 2024's draft 00:25:24.259 --> 00:25:28.000 and a fifth round pick in the 2025 draft for 00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:31.720 a second round pick in the 2025 draft. So we 00:25:31.720 --> 00:25:34.839 gave up two picks and Stephon Diggs, and we got 00:25:34.839 --> 00:25:36.819 a second round pick out of it. And everyone was 00:25:36.819 --> 00:25:40.880 overjoyed when this deal went down. And how are 00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:42.539 we feeling about that? How are we feeling about 00:25:42.539 --> 00:25:44.640 that? Like it or not, Stephon Diggs was one of 00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:46.619 the most successful wide receivers in Bill's 00:25:46.619 --> 00:25:48.519 history, and his four -year run with this team 00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:52.329 was crazy. It was crazy. I know things kind of 00:25:52.329 --> 00:25:54.529 wore out their welcome and everyone hated him 00:25:54.529 --> 00:25:56.430 and turned on him at the end. I get it. There 00:25:56.430 --> 00:25:59.049 was some bad blood there. You know, you wish 00:25:59.049 --> 00:26:01.869 you could just go back and maybe make a few changes, 00:26:01.950 --> 00:26:04.069 right? A few wrongs and get everyone on the same 00:26:04.069 --> 00:26:06.450 page. And then we wouldn't be in this situation. 00:26:06.670 --> 00:26:08.769 And now he's on the Patriots, right? It just 00:26:08.769 --> 00:26:11.049 sucks. The whole thing sucks. What do we get 00:26:11.049 --> 00:26:14.519 out of this deal? By trading digs, a sixth and 00:26:14.519 --> 00:26:17.019 a fifth for a second. Well, not only do we have 00:26:17.019 --> 00:26:19.259 that second, we package that second and something 00:26:19.259 --> 00:26:23.019 else to move up 15 spots in the 2025 draft. And 00:26:23.019 --> 00:26:27.720 we took a defensive tackle, TJ Sanders. Oh boy. 00:26:28.299 --> 00:26:32.180 Now, TJ Sanders hasn't really done much of anything 00:26:32.180 --> 00:26:35.180 so far. And I know it's pretty early in his NFL 00:26:35.180 --> 00:26:38.279 career, but so far the warning signs are there. 00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:40.900 And this is not looking good, folks. Not looking 00:26:40.900 --> 00:26:43.920 good at all. i don't want to rush to judgment 00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:46.500 because he's a young player sometimes these players 00:26:46.500 --> 00:26:49.420 take a couple years to get rolling but as of 00:26:49.420 --> 00:26:52.440 right now that trade i know everyone wanted to 00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:55.400 run digs out of town on a rail but as of now 00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:58.160 that trade doesn't look too great for the bills 00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:01.500 Anyone think we could maybe use him in the wide 00:27:01.500 --> 00:27:03.500 receiver room? If he had the right attitude, 00:27:03.619 --> 00:27:05.740 I would love to have him on this team right now. 00:27:05.799 --> 00:27:07.759 But everyone's like, nope, no way. Get this guy 00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:10.180 out of town. And I get it. I get it. There were 00:27:10.180 --> 00:27:12.000 times, there were days, there were weeks I was 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:13.880 in the same boat. It's just frustrating. You 00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:16.299 wish these guys could get their stuff together 00:27:16.299 --> 00:27:18.480 and get on the same page and just all be working 00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:21.859 towards the same goal. Anyway, it was kind of 00:27:21.859 --> 00:27:23.759 fun to kind of take a look back, getting the 00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:26.660 DeLorean hop back through the last, what? What 00:27:26.660 --> 00:27:31.839 was that? 25, nope, 22 years of Buffalo Bills 00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:34.400 trade history. Sometimes we win, sometimes we 00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:36.819 lose, but it's definitely interesting to go back 00:27:36.819 --> 00:27:39.220 and see years later, hey, did these trades work 00:27:39.220 --> 00:27:41.599 out for us? Were these good deals, bad deals? 00:27:41.740 --> 00:27:43.839 What do we end up getting? Because now we're 00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:45.619 right back in that situation, right? We obviously 00:27:45.619 --> 00:27:49.119 have so many holes on this team, so many areas, 00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:52.539 so many needs that we need to fill. Who can we 00:27:52.539 --> 00:27:55.500 include in some of these trade offers? Everyone's 00:27:55.500 --> 00:27:57.400 like, oh, we can't trade draft capital. Well, 00:27:57.769 --> 00:28:00.269 really like look look at it look at the players 00:28:00.269 --> 00:28:03.569 we've drafted recently it's been pretty bad pretty 00:28:03.569 --> 00:28:07.150 bad and the players that we are counting on to 00:28:07.150 --> 00:28:10.049 be a huge help to this roster have any of them 00:28:10.049 --> 00:28:12.410 actually stepped up and helped so far the only 00:28:12.410 --> 00:28:15.200 one so far out of this draft class that's even 00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:17.500 remotely helping is Dion Walker now that guy 00:28:17.500 --> 00:28:20.599 is an absolute stud now if he continues to progress 00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:23.440 that's going to look like an a steal an absolute 00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:27.059 steal you know we drafted Maxwell Hairston and 00:28:27.059 --> 00:28:30.440 he's hurt hopefully his window to return to practice 00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:32.920 is open this week and he can get back on the 00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:35.589 field I want him on the field for The Chiefs 00:28:35.589 --> 00:28:37.630 game. Are you kidding me? You're going against 00:28:37.630 --> 00:28:41.670 Rashi Rice and the speed that they and who's 00:28:41.670 --> 00:28:43.990 the other guy? Worthy. You need as much speed 00:28:43.990 --> 00:28:46.289 on the field as you can. So you better activate 00:28:46.289 --> 00:28:48.289 them now. But like some of these other guys that 00:28:48.289 --> 00:28:52.549 we're drafting, we're not hitting. So my idea, 00:28:52.690 --> 00:28:55.049 if you need to throw a second rounder, if you 00:28:55.049 --> 00:28:57.369 need to throw a third rounder and to go get some. 00:28:57.720 --> 00:28:59.960 proven veterans, some proven young guys that 00:28:59.960 --> 00:29:02.660 we can extend after this season or next season. 00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:05.039 Let's do it. I don't care because we suck at 00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:08.299 drafting. Brandon Bean, you have a pretty bad 00:29:08.299 --> 00:29:10.839 track record of drafting. You sit here and you 00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:13.039 hang your hat on being able to draft Josh Allen. 00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:15.400 Well, it's like finding a unicorn. Congrats, 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:19.660 you got lucky. how often does that happen? Because 00:29:19.660 --> 00:29:22.720 you also passed up on player after player. I 00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:24.640 get it, you drafted Josh Allen and you should 00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:27.339 get credit for it, but your track record on other 00:29:27.339 --> 00:29:30.440 alleged superstars in the making has not been 00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.500 too good. So yeah, if the option is on the table 00:29:33.500 --> 00:29:36.160 to trade draft picks to go get proven players 00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:39.339 to fill some of these holes, I am on board, absolutely. 00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:42.799 And I don't care what it takes because looking 00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:45.779 back through some of the most recent Buffalo 00:29:45.779 --> 00:29:47.930 Bills trades, Through the last, what, 20 -some 00:29:47.930 --> 00:29:50.549 years? Some win, some lose. So just go for it. 00:29:50.609 --> 00:29:53.710 We don't have too many more years with Josh in 00:29:53.710 --> 00:29:56.029 his prime. Do whatever you can. I don't care 00:29:56.029 --> 00:29:58.720 if we're sacrificing. three four five years from 00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:01.460 now if you have a chance to put a super bowl 00:30:01.460 --> 00:30:03.420 caliber roster together and maybe we don't maybe 00:30:03.420 --> 00:30:05.259 we just need to be honest about where we are 00:30:05.259 --> 00:30:07.799 but we we're gonna make the playoffs folks just 00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:09.539 just chill out with that we're gonna make the 00:30:09.539 --> 00:30:11.799 playoffs and if things start to go right and 00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:13.819 we get everybody on the same page we could still 00:30:13.819 --> 00:30:16.680 make a deep playoff run so make the pieces make 00:30:16.680 --> 00:30:18.779 the moves go get the pieces you need right now 00:30:18.779 --> 00:30:22.369 send a second second send a third if if it's 00:30:22.369 --> 00:30:24.869 the right player and it costs us the first who 00:30:24.869 --> 00:30:28.309 cares let's go for it go for it i am all in i 00:30:28.309 --> 00:30:30.569 don't care what it takes let's do what we have 00:30:30.569 --> 00:30:33.190 to do at least try there's nothing worse than 00:30:33.190 --> 00:30:35.829 sitting here with a roster you know has 50 billion 00:30:35.829 --> 00:30:38.750 holes and y 'all ain't gonna try so i am all 00:30:38.750 --> 00:30:40.809 in the boat of whatever it takes let's go get 00:30:40.809 --> 00:30:42.829 a wide receiver let's go get a cornerback let's 00:30:42.829 --> 00:30:45.869 go get a safety let's do what we can to turn 00:30:45.869 --> 00:30:48.910 this roster into the best possible version of 00:30:48.910 --> 00:30:50.990 ourselves there you go sean that's what we all 00:30:51.049 --> 00:30:53.109 always want to talk about uh this is where we 00:30:53.109 --> 00:30:54.730 come to be the best version of ourselves well 00:30:54.730 --> 00:30:56.589 the team is not the best version of itself and 00:30:56.589 --> 00:30:58.950 it hasn't been in quite some time so do what 00:30:58.950 --> 00:31:01.289 we can to get everybody back on that road everybody 00:31:01.289 --> 00:31:04.069 clapping at the same time all in unison and we're 00:31:04.069 --> 00:31:06.170 gonna you know put the pedal to the metal and 00:31:06.170 --> 00:31:08.369 and and turn this second half into the season 00:31:08.369 --> 00:31:12.089 uh into a lot more victory mondays moving forward 00:31:12.089 --> 00:31:15.049 anyway i thought that would be a fun exercise 00:31:15.049 --> 00:31:18.880 i will Definitely be getting the game preview 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:21.359 with the Panthers out later in the week as promised. 00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:24.630 And as of now. 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