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The College Football Season Has Been Crazy! (PST Episode 640) · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show, the longest
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Speaker 1: running weekly Philly sports podcast show in the world, twelve
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Speaker 1: and a half years strung. We got a great show
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Speaker 1: coming your way. I'm Jeff Warren here with my buddy
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Speaker 1: lenn Hunt Sickarts. It's been a little while since you've
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Speaker 1: been on the pod. Here, Lennon's good to see it,
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Speaker 1: my friend.
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Speaker 2: It has I was actually thinking about it last week,
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Speaker 2: or like, I haven't done regular shows postgame shows. It
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Speaker 2: feels it feels like it has been a while. I know,
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Speaker 2: my schedule hasn't been lined up with it a lot recently. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I steel it feels like it's been like two or
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Speaker 2: three weeks.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's good to see. A couple of
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Speaker 1: weeks ago at Eric's we all got together and yeah
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Speaker 1: we had we had Eric's famous blue cheese bacon burgers,
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Speaker 1: which were fantastic. I must say we were actually talking
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Speaker 1: about on the show last week.
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Speaker 3: Good.
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Speaker 1: Yes, but really, I mean, already in our fantasy basketball league,
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Speaker 1: you're you're a number of what guys already out It's like, yeah, I.
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Speaker 2: And this is this is why I don't really do
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Speaker 2: this stuff. You know, I don't know why I agreed
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Speaker 2: to do the basketball when I did it last year
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Speaker 2: and I was trying to get back in the league
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Speaker 2: and all. But yeah, so I had the I think
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Speaker 2: I had the six pick in our draft YEP this year,
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Speaker 2: and I took Anthony Edwards. You know, had great year
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Speaker 2: last year for the for the Wolves. You know, young player,
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Speaker 2: no reason to think he wouldn't repeat that. And he's
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Speaker 2: already out until mid November. So it's just like, I mean.
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Speaker 1: But that's where it becomes me. Well, that's where it
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Speaker 1: becomes interesting because you gotta use strategy and you gotta
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Speaker 1: be like, you know, here's what we're gonna here's what
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Speaker 1: we gotta do to get back into it. We gotta
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Speaker 1: be strategic.
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Speaker 2: How do you use strategy when these guys are made
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Speaker 2: out of glass and they never play? You know what,
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Speaker 2: You make a good point because on a regular on
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Speaker 2: a regular night, it's like, oh man, I only have
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Speaker 2: five guys going on night in my lineup, and then
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Speaker 2: one of them's hurt and then one of them sitting.
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Speaker 1: Like I know that was with me last year. I
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Speaker 1: was at the almost at the bottom of the barrel
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Speaker 1: last year for most of the league because I had
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Speaker 1: so many injuries. That's right, that's what it's tough about
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Speaker 1: fantasy basketball.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, anybody, it's just I mean, they're these guys
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Speaker 2: are just a bunch of ferraris. There's the world's best
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Speaker 2: best athletes, but those Ferraris are always in the shop.
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Speaker 1: They are so exactly one little, one little ding, and it's.
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Speaker 2: Like, oh no, yeah, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: All right, we gotta go, folks. We gonna certainly we're
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Speaker 1: gonna be getting into some Philadelphia Eagles talk as they
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Speaker 1: are in their bye week. If you want to go
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Speaker 1: back in the feed, we do have an Opposition Territory podcast.
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Speaker 1: I know we've been previewing our Eagles shows here and
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Speaker 1: Eagles games, I should say, but we got into just
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Speaker 1: the NFC and what the NFC is looking like so
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Speaker 1: far halfway through the NFL season. But we're gonna be
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Speaker 1: diving into some Eagles talk and what we want to
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Speaker 1: see from them in Week ten when they return from
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Speaker 1: the bye week, and then we're gonna get into some
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia seventy six Ers talk, because my gosh, this team
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Speaker 1: is just surprising the hell out of everybody again, Oh
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Speaker 1: my gosh, entertaining basketball, Holy freaking crap. They're undefeated as
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Speaker 1: of us recording this here on Wednesday, October twenty ninth.
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Speaker 1: My goodness, gracious, so goodness, gracious, when all right season,
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Speaker 1: I know, I was gonna I wonder if folks will
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Speaker 1: know what that is. And then from there we're gonna
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Speaker 1: get into some Philadelphia Union talk. Can they make a
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Speaker 1: run for the championship for the MLS Cup. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: dive into that storyline for sure, And then we're gonna
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Speaker 1: get into some Flyers talk and really talk about Trevor Zegris.
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Speaker 1: I mean, wow, he has been pretty sensational and pretty
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Speaker 1: fun to watch early on the Flyers offseason acquisition that
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Speaker 1: we've all been really enjoying watching our thoughts on him
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Speaker 1: and how this team is performing. And then what we're
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Speaker 1: throwing down on the table this week, we're gonna get
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Speaker 1: into some college football talk with our good friend Joe
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Speaker 1: Dalleone from A to Za Sports and the Raffino and
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Speaker 1: Joe Show podcast. We're gonna dive into this college football
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Speaker 1: season a little bit more. I mean, it's interesting storylines
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Speaker 1: for sure in the world of college football. So, Land, buddy,
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Speaker 1: why don't we get into this Philadelphia Eagles team here?
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Speaker 1: It's the bye week, it's been up and down. They're
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Speaker 1: six and two. They had what seemed to be a
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Speaker 1: get right game against the Giants, and really what we
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Speaker 1: want to see from them when Week ten rolls around,
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Speaker 1: because I think at this point too, while we did
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Speaker 1: see some improvement with the pass rush this past we
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Speaker 1: absolutely did. I mean, five sacks in a game, holy
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Speaker 1: freaking crap. And yeah some of them were coverage sacks
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Speaker 1: for sure, but uh, I think the pass rush still
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Speaker 1: isn't where it needs to be for this team to
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Speaker 1: be as successful as they're going to want to be
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Speaker 1: if and when they do get into the playoffs. So
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Speaker 1: I think moving into Week ten, the pass rush it's
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Speaker 1: still it's they still need to get home, they still
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Speaker 1: need to finish. I think that's a big theme coming into,
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Speaker 1: you know, surrounding this by week and then looking at
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Speaker 1: week ten.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. Now, I know the Eagles made
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Speaker 2: a trade for Jet's corner.
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Speaker 1: Yeah it was going to get into that, but yeah, sure.
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Speaker 2: When but what I mean, I don't mean to go
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Speaker 2: down that road just now, more of leading into a
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Speaker 2: question when is the trade deadline in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: The deadline is November I think it's November six. Let
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Speaker 1: me check here real quick.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying, like, I mean, you know, talking
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Speaker 2: about the pass rush, do you think that there is
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Speaker 2: a chance four?
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Speaker 1: Sorry?
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Speaker 2: November four? November fourth, Okay, So they made a move
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Speaker 2: to bolster their secondary. Now do you think that there's
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Speaker 2: maybe another move on deck? I think for some kind
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Speaker 2: of edge rusher, because I mean, how is it going
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Speaker 2: to improve?
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: But I mean Brandon Graham, you know, as much as
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Speaker 2: we all love him, he's not going to turn the
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Speaker 2: clock back ten years. Yeah, you know, coming back, so
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Speaker 2: it I mean, he'll give you what he can, but
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Speaker 2: I don't I don't think you can reasonably expect it
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Speaker 2: to be much. So it's going to either have to
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Speaker 2: come from the guys that are there, or they're going
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Speaker 2: to have to make a move more likely to bring
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Speaker 2: somebody in. And that's what's going to be interesting to
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Speaker 2: me over the next few days here ken they manage
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Speaker 2: to get somebody in there to make that happen.
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Speaker 1: Right now, I believe the Eagles have ten draft picks
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Speaker 1: next year. This is just next year. They have a
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Speaker 1: first rounder, a second rounder, They have three third round
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Speaker 1: picks as well, two fourth round picks, So I think Len,
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Speaker 1: it's not out of the realm of possibility that maybe
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Speaker 1: over this weekend, on Monday, or even like I said, Tuesday,
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Speaker 1: rate before that deadline, that a pass rusher is brought in.
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Speaker 2: I could see the feels like they kind of have to,
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Speaker 2: right it.
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Speaker 1: Feels like it feels like it. Can I see them
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Speaker 1: giving up a second rounder to get somebody who is
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Speaker 1: going to be a significant addition and a significant piece.
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Speaker 1: I can absolutely see that happening. They have the draft
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Speaker 1: capital to do it. Why not do it in a
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Speaker 1: year when it seems like things are going to start
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Speaker 1: really clicking with this team.
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Speaker 2: They certainly did against the Giants this past week, and
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Speaker 2: it sucks and they would hurt to get rid of
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Speaker 2: that pick. But I mean the windows open now, right
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Speaker 2: you know, they they won it last year. They're you know,
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Speaker 2: one of the better teams in the in the NFC,
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Speaker 2: So why don't they have a chance to do it
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Speaker 2: again this year if they can get some help. I mean,
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Speaker 2: this is this is when you strike. I mean, they
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Speaker 2: don't have any major injuries right now that are you know,
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Speaker 2: oh Man Hurts is out for the year. Barkley's out
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Speaker 2: for the year or something catastrophic like that. So you
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Speaker 2: kind of have to, don't you.
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Speaker 1: I think so, I think so. I'm hoping that it
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Speaker 1: happens within this next week for sure, I really, I
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Speaker 1: really am, because look, I'm glad they ended up doing
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Speaker 1: the try to get Michael Carter the second. So what
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Speaker 1: that is, folks, if you aren't aware, Philadelphia Eagles receive
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Speaker 1: cornerback Michael Carter the second and a twenty twenty seven
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Speaker 1: seventh round pick. The Jets get wide receiver John Metchi,
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Speaker 1: who really didn't see too too much actions as a
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Speaker 1: member of this Eagles team, and also a twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: seven sixth round pick. So he apparently, I shouldn't say apparently.
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Speaker 1: He's had about twenty five starts. This is cornerback Michael Carter,
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Speaker 1: and everybody's calling him MC two. So MC two has
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Speaker 1: logged twenty five starts in sixty five career games played.
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Speaker 1: He's twenty six years old. He has a eighty three
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Speaker 1: point four passer rating when targeted, which is pretty good,
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Speaker 1: but it's been one hundred and nine point seven in
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Speaker 1: five games this season, and that's not so good passer rating,
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Speaker 1: so up and down for him. Of course, But you
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Speaker 1: know what, I do have faith in this scouting department
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Speaker 1: when they're bringing in certain uh you know, certain talent.
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Speaker 1: Look when they initially brought in and acquired Tank Bigsby,
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Speaker 1: We're like, all right, you know, he's been a productive
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Speaker 1: running back down in uh uh Jacksonville, and then they
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Speaker 1: just didn't use him up until this past.
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Speaker 3: Week of a job.
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Speaker 1: Last week, what was it? Nine carries for one hundred
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Speaker 1: and four yards? Like, what the hell? What you what
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Speaker 1: were you waiting for? Not that he's going to do
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Speaker 1: that every week, but really, I think the Eagle scouting department,
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Speaker 1: their pro scouting department is really top notch. And could
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Speaker 1: we see good things from MC two. Absolutely, I really
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Speaker 1: do like this trade.
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Speaker 2: Do you think that they see him more as a
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Speaker 2: slot the guy? Okay, that was my question. He's going
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Speaker 2: to be a slot or is he going to be
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Speaker 2: on the outside opposite Mitchell?
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Speaker 1: It's my understanding. And in the Jets games that I've seen,
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Speaker 1: Michael Carter has mainly played in the slot. I mean
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Speaker 1: he's going to provide I think some overall versatility to
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Speaker 1: the secondary, But I mean I wouldn't expect necessarily Cooper
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Speaker 1: de Gene to be moving to the outside if that's
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Speaker 1: what you mean, you know what I mean, Like I
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Speaker 1: don't see that happening at all, but an extra piece
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Speaker 1: and could he play on the outside. I think he could,
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Speaker 1: But it's gonna I think they got a talent in
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Speaker 1: an upgrade over Dori Jackson for sure and Kielee Ringo. Okay,
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Speaker 1: that's my that's my thoughts here.
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Speaker 2: So well, I mean, and that's any anything that you
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Speaker 2: can get that it's an improvement is going to help.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean that's still based on what you
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Speaker 2: have told me, that seems like there's still a hole
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Speaker 2: on the outside.
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Speaker 3: The opposite, Mitchell.
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Speaker 1: I think there is. Look, they had to replace Darius Sleigh,
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Speaker 1: you know, like that's a tough thing to do, especially
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Speaker 1: when you have young talent that really hasn't developed. In
10:44
Speaker 1: terms of Kiey Ringo, we had high expectations for him
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Speaker 1: coming into this season. Hasn't manifested itself at all. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: all right, well yeah I get it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just that kind of wishing and hope and
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Speaker 2: that like, yeah, you know, if these guys are good teams,
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Speaker 2: aren't really looking to trade.
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Speaker 1: It, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, all right, Well, is there anything
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Speaker 1: else buddy, before we move on to some Sixers talk,
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Speaker 1: anything that you want to see from this Eagles team
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Speaker 1: in week ten when they return from the bye.
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Speaker 2: Week, I mean, more offensive cohesion, you know, return to
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Speaker 2: health for you know A J. Brown or you know
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Speaker 2: Cam Jurgens. I'm assuming that the bye week is going
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Speaker 2: to be you know, helpful in getting both of them,
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Speaker 2: you know, back a little bit, unless there's something on
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Speaker 2: either of their health statuses that I'm not, you know,
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Speaker 2: fully aware of. Yeah, but yeah, just just rest up
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Speaker 2: and be refreshed and ready to go for when they
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Speaker 2: start back up.
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Speaker 1: All right, sounds good. Well let's get into now some
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia seventy six ers talk, because wooo, the the Tyres
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Speaker 1: MAXI VJ. Edgecumbe backcourt is just ushering in this this
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Speaker 1: era of joy. The Sixers are undefeated and playing some
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Speaker 1: very entertaining basketball right now as we are recording this.
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Speaker 1: I cannot believe that they are the number one team
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Speaker 1: right now in the Eastern Conference at four and oh yes,
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Speaker 1: it's early in the season, Len, but holy freaking crap,
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Speaker 1: this freaking team has been fun to watch.
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Speaker 2: They're fun, yeah, And that's the big thing is you know,
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Speaker 2: I mean, I just yeah, it's kind of weird. Just
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Speaker 2: last year was such a drag and you just wanted
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Speaker 2: them to be fun again. I felt like there was
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Speaker 2: a black cloud over this organization all year last year,
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Speaker 2: and it's just nice even if they're like there's teams
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Speaker 2: that are like fun but not necessarily good in the standings.
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Speaker 2: Even if they were a bad team that was fun
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Speaker 2: to watch, I could have lived with that. But the
12:40
Speaker 2: fact that they're fun and they're good so far, I mean,
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Speaker 2: it's still very early in the year. Yeah, you know,
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's awesome, but need to be able
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Speaker 2: to say it.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't just last year, Len, Look for the last decade.
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Speaker 1: I mean, hell, maybe the last quarter century has just
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Speaker 1: been filled with these soul crushing moments for most of
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Speaker 1: us die hard Sixers fans, from rookie injuries to guys
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Speaker 1: you draft who then forget how to shoot the ball,
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Speaker 1: to just playoff disappointment after playoff disappointment, and everything in between.
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Speaker 1: This basketball team has continually they'll warm our hearts as
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Speaker 1: we're getting ready for the season, and then throughout these
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Speaker 1: seasons they rip it out and they just stomp all
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Speaker 1: over it. That's what we've basically seen. I mean in
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Speaker 1: the last decade, you know.
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Speaker 2: You name it, like like bad draft picks, bad trades,
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Speaker 2: bad health, you know, whatever it seems like could go
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Speaker 2: wrong has gone wrong. So to have a guy that
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Speaker 2: you picked third overall and he just comes in and
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Speaker 2: he just looks like he belongs immediately, it's just like, wait,
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Speaker 2: something good happened like that kind of that kind of
13:52
Speaker 2: feeling like you're just not used to, you know, anything
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Speaker 2: good happening. I mean, the fact that they were a
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Speaker 2: competitive team despite all that over the past you know,
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Speaker 2: decade or whatever. Yeah, you know, maybe not a full decade,
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Speaker 2: but you know what I mean, But even that's amazing,
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Speaker 2: you know, with all the goofy, you know crap that's
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Speaker 2: happened over the past however many years, but it seemed
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Speaker 2: like it was kind of going down a whole last
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Speaker 2: year where it was like and Beads getting older, he's
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Speaker 2: always hurt, Paul George plays half a year, these guys
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Speaker 2: are on under contract for a while. They've got one
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Speaker 2: guy on this team that I'm interested in watching in Maxie.
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Speaker 2: He got hurt. Yeah, so all that stuff and it's
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Speaker 2: just like now, I mean, I don't know where they
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Speaker 2: can go because I think there's a there's a ceiling
14:43
Speaker 2: well just due to the size issues that they're gonna face. Yeah,
14:46
Speaker 2: I mean, once McCain comes back, you've already got a
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Speaker 2: fun backcourt in in Maxie and uh and and Edgecombe
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Speaker 2: Grimes has been great off the bench. They're gonna really
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Speaker 2: have to figure out, you know, the whole minutes distribution
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Speaker 2: among their cards once once McCain comes back. Yeah, but
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Speaker 2: it's it's a fun problem to have. I mean, and
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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, right now, it's just I keep
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Speaker 2: going back to the word, but it's just fun.
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Speaker 1: It's fun. Well when you when you read a stat
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Speaker 1: like this per ESPN, the one hundred and eighty six
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Speaker 1: points that Maxi and edgecomb combined for through the first
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Speaker 1: three games is the most for a starting back court
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Speaker 1: through three games since the nineteen seventy and seventy one
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Speaker 1: season when when the stats first started to be tracked.
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Speaker 1: For that, I mean, just historical numbers, just what seemed
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Speaker 1: and it doesn't seem to be like fizzling out even
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Speaker 1: like after the fourth game. And yes that we get
15:44
Speaker 1: to see a den Bona doing some good things, you
15:47
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I box the last year, so
15:50
Speaker 1: it seemed like the Sixers were running out of some energy,
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Speaker 1: you know, in the fourth corner, and then all of us,
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, a den bona happened, which was amazing,
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Speaker 1: Like you, like you said, the team is just fun
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Speaker 1: to watch, and it's it's a high level of energy
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Speaker 1: right now that I didn't think we were going to see.
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Speaker 1: I don't think any of us thought we were going
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Speaker 1: to see this level of energy. Yeah, and I really think,
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Speaker 1: I mean this crop of rookies. I mean it's not
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Speaker 1: just Edgecombe. I mean, you know, there was a whole
16:20
Speaker 1: Edgecombe versus Ace Bailey thing. I think ast Bailey's gonna
16:23
Speaker 1: do well out in Utah. I mean, Dylan Harper so
16:26
Speaker 1: far has has looked really good in San Antonio. I
16:29
Speaker 1: mean we knew Cooper Flag was going to be good.
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Speaker 1: Kinnipple down in Charlotte for the role that they need
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Speaker 1: him to play, he's playing it wonderfully. So it's been
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Speaker 1: I mean, a very strong rookie crop.
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Speaker 2: So far, not just for Sixers, but just you know,
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Speaker 2: I think around the league so far, it's been pretty impressive.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, all right, you got anything else, buddy, Before we
16:51
Speaker 1: get to our first break here with the Sixers.
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Speaker 2: No, I do not no.
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17:31
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk Philadelphia Union Flyers and some college football.
17:34
Speaker 1: Stick with us, all right, We are back, and now
17:39
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into some Philadelphia Union talk. Why because, folks,
17:43
Speaker 1: they are the most successful right now, the most successful
17:46
Speaker 1: Philly sports team as they are in the playoffs. They
17:50
Speaker 1: were the best team in Major League Soccer here in
17:52
Speaker 1: this twenty twenty five season. They won the Supporter Shield,
17:56
Speaker 1: and we're gonna dive into whether or not this team
17:59
Speaker 1: can really make a run through the MLS playoffs. Can
18:02
Speaker 1: they win the MLS Cup and bring that championship back
18:06
Speaker 1: to Philadelphia as as they did a short time ago.
18:10
Speaker 3: Lehn.
18:11
Speaker 1: After last year and the very disappointing, in fact horrible
18:15
Speaker 1: season that the Union had in twenty twenty four, there
18:18
Speaker 1: was no way in a million years I thought that
18:21
Speaker 1: this team could do what it did this year. And
18:24
Speaker 1: I think it's a testament to the new coach who
18:27
Speaker 1: took over for Jim Curtin, Bradley Carnell, his leadership, how
18:32
Speaker 1: he has put these guys on the field into situations
18:39
Speaker 1: that where he's adapting to their strength. He's adapting his
18:43
Speaker 1: coaching style to what their strengths are. There's so much
18:47
Speaker 1: to be said for that, but I think it's this
18:50
Speaker 1: cohesion of the team being very resilient because even when
18:54
Speaker 1: they've been down in certain moments in games. I mean
18:56
Speaker 1: even this pass game against the Chicago Fire, last fifteen minutes,
19:00
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my gosh, these guys forget how to
19:02
Speaker 1: play soccer. You know, you're thinking what the heck's going on?
19:05
Speaker 1: But then the resiliency comes in that that energy that
19:08
Speaker 1: they've been able to bring throughout this season somehow then
19:12
Speaker 1: shows up. I give Bradley Carnell a ton of credit
19:15
Speaker 1: and and he he's a humble dude too. When when
19:19
Speaker 1: you when you listen to him and in press conferences
19:22
Speaker 1: and when he's talking to the media. I'm just amazed
19:25
Speaker 1: at where this Union team is right now. I really
19:27
Speaker 1: think that they are going to be able to make
19:29
Speaker 1: a run at this MLS Cup at this point.
19:33
Speaker 2: I mean, they've got a shot. They listen, They've exceeded
19:38
Speaker 2: all of my expectations, I think all of all of
19:41
Speaker 2: yours as well. Yeah, just with how they played. And
19:44
Speaker 2: I think that goes a little bit to what you
19:46
Speaker 2: said about Carnell, kind of like realizing that these guys
19:51
Speaker 2: ye do best, yeah, and letting him do it. I mean,
19:53
Speaker 2: it feels like they're I mean, they've always been solid defensively,
19:58
Speaker 2: but it feels like they're more more aggressive than they
20:01
Speaker 2: were last year. Yeah, And I and I think that's
20:03
Speaker 2: kind of it feels like they're playing the same way
20:06
Speaker 2: they did, you know, the last time they won the
20:08
Speaker 2: Supporter Shield and when when they when they you know,
20:11
Speaker 2: we're close to winning an MLS Cup losing to l
20:15
Speaker 2: A f C in the final. So yeah, I mean
20:18
Speaker 2: it seems like they you know have a you know,
20:21
Speaker 2: a good shot based on what they're doing.
20:23
Speaker 3: Now.
20:24
Speaker 2: They've won their their first round series against Chicago. They
20:28
Speaker 2: won the first game in in penalty kicks. Game two
20:33
Speaker 2: is now in Chicago on November first, So if they
20:36
Speaker 2: win that series over and now they go into a
20:39
Speaker 2: series of games where it's won and done after this round.
20:43
Speaker 2: So it'll be interesting to see how that goes. The
20:47
Speaker 2: one Achilles heel that I wish they would stop doing,
20:51
Speaker 2: and then it had happened. You you alluded to it
20:53
Speaker 2: in the in the Chicago game, they were up to
20:56
Speaker 2: nothing and then like kind in a matter of minutes,
21:00
Speaker 2: it was two to two. And it feels like they
21:04
Speaker 2: it feels like in games. Maybe it's just games when
21:06
Speaker 2: I watch him, but it feels like it happens a
21:08
Speaker 2: lot where they have a lead and they allow a
21:10
Speaker 2: team to come back and then they either have to
21:12
Speaker 2: you know, win the game back or it ends in
21:14
Speaker 2: a draw. Most of the time, you know, sometimes they
21:17
Speaker 2: just go all the way and they lose. But it
21:20
Speaker 2: feels like they don't step on the opponent's next when
21:24
Speaker 2: they've got him down late in games and it bites
21:27
Speaker 2: him in the ass. And I feel like I've seen
21:29
Speaker 2: it happen a couple of times, and it happened in
21:31
Speaker 2: the Chicago game too. Fortunately they were able to win
21:33
Speaker 2: on penalty kicks. I guess my my main concern losing
21:38
Speaker 2: Quinn Sullivan to the a cl tear. You know, he's
21:43
Speaker 2: one of their probably better midfielders, so losing him is
21:48
Speaker 2: gonna sting, and I don't think it really it totally
21:52
Speaker 2: kneecaps their offensive upside, but it definitely hurts. They're going
21:57
Speaker 2: to miss him.
21:57
Speaker 1: I think I think they're going to miss him. But
21:59
Speaker 1: I think what's also important because like coming into this season,
22:04
Speaker 1: we were talking about at times what happens with like
22:07
Speaker 1: what happens when depth pieces need to step up, and
22:10
Speaker 1: there was real concern with it, you know, but when
22:13
Speaker 1: you look at this season, guys have stepped up in
22:17
Speaker 1: spots they.
22:19
Speaker 3: Happen.
22:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think it's a culture thing.
22:22
Speaker 3: You know.
22:22
Speaker 1: It's interesting if you go back, folks in the podcast
22:24
Speaker 1: feed our PSD special this week, our good friend Josh
22:27
Speaker 1: Schuster from Philadelphia Soccer now dot com was on talking
22:30
Speaker 1: about this team and a possible this possible run through
22:33
Speaker 1: the playoffs to possible championship and len it's interesting. Josh
22:37
Speaker 1: used a phrase that I've been thinking about and you
22:40
Speaker 1: alluded to it, the aggressiveness he said. He said he
22:43
Speaker 1: views it as patient aggressiveness, and he said, I know
22:47
Speaker 1: that kind of sounds, but I think he was absolutely.
22:52
Speaker 2: I think that's a that's a that's a good way
22:55
Speaker 2: to put it.
22:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, that absolutely does. And be as a result, it
22:59
Speaker 1: means that this team is really resilient in a lot
23:01
Speaker 1: of ways too. So I think it's just it's been
23:04
Speaker 1: fun and I think it's going to remain fun watching
23:06
Speaker 1: this team. Like I am amazed at where the world
23:09
Speaker 1: of Philly sports is on any given week. I swear
23:12
Speaker 1: to God. Three weeks ago, we were down in the dumps, man,
23:15
Speaker 1: Eagles are losing, Philly's getting knocked out of the postseason.
23:20
Speaker 1: We were shit on our shoes, out of luck as
23:23
Speaker 1: Philadelphia sports fans. And now all of a sudden, you've
23:28
Speaker 1: got the Eagles, We're seeing some cohesiveness with that offensive
23:32
Speaker 1: line for the first time really this season. You've got
23:34
Speaker 1: the Sixers at four and oh, you know, the Union
23:38
Speaker 1: are doing what they're doing as well, and like we're
23:40
Speaker 1: gonna talk just a minute about the Flyers. It's been
23:44
Speaker 1: a fun season at all. I know it's been fun
23:46
Speaker 1: watching them and Trevor Segrets. I don't know. Maybe we'll
23:49
Speaker 1: just get into that now. But do you have anything
23:51
Speaker 1: else for the Union, buddy before we move to the Flyers.
23:55
Speaker 2: No, I just I can't wait for that game on Sunday.
23:57
Speaker 2: Hopefully they just close it out. I mean, it's an
24:00
Speaker 2: away game, you know, just let's not make it suspenseful.
24:03
Speaker 2: And then I think they God who, I think it's
24:07
Speaker 2: Charlotte and.
24:09
Speaker 3: NYC.
24:10
Speaker 2: Who, yes, whoever wins that series. That's who the Union
24:13
Speaker 2: would have next should they advance. So those are both teams.
24:17
Speaker 1: I think Sarlotte.
24:19
Speaker 2: Well, I mean n y CFC did go into Charlotte
24:21
Speaker 2: and win Game one, so they have Game two on
24:24
Speaker 2: their home Turfy if they can. If they can win
24:26
Speaker 2: that game, then I mean, I think it'll be a
24:30
Speaker 2: little bit of a surprise, but I think it's definitely
24:32
Speaker 2: doable at this point.
24:33
Speaker 1: All right, all right, sounds good. Well, let us know
24:36
Speaker 1: what you're thinking about anything here in the world of
24:38
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24:41
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24:43
Speaker 1: respond to it, whether it's about the Union, the Sixers,
24:46
Speaker 1: the Eagles, the Phillies, what the offseason is going to
24:48
Speaker 1: look like for them and this Philadelphia Flyers team, which
24:52
Speaker 1: we're going to get into now. Trevor Ziegres, Holy freaking crap,
24:56
Speaker 1: what he has meant to this Flyers team early on
24:59
Speaker 1: this season, we was certainly want to give our thoughts
25:01
Speaker 1: about him and just where this team is at right now.
25:04
Speaker 1: But he is answering that call, that off season call.
25:08
Speaker 1: We were all thinking, Okay, what is he actually really
25:11
Speaker 1: going to provide this team? You know, is he just
25:13
Speaker 1: gonna be all, you know, flash and glamour, a player
25:16
Speaker 1: that only wanted to, you know, be there for the
25:20
Speaker 1: highlight reels things like that. But no, I mean whether yes,
25:24
Speaker 1: you know, whether whether it's the power play or whether
25:27
Speaker 1: it's the fact that, uh where what he has given
25:33
Speaker 1: this team just in terms of like when he's on
25:35
Speaker 1: the ice, I think it's like they're five to one
25:37
Speaker 1: and one, you know, at this point with him on
25:40
Speaker 1: the ice, it's it's really incredible what he has done. Yeah,
25:44
Speaker 1: they're five to one and one in games that he's okay,
25:47
Speaker 1: in games that he has recorded a point, they're five
25:49
Speaker 1: to one and one, And like there is my gosh,
25:52
Speaker 1: something to be said for that. There really is, you
25:55
Speaker 1: know what a free agent acquisition, and overall he's helped
25:58
Speaker 1: make this team so much more or fun to watch
26:01
Speaker 1: him and meetch CoV. It's man, it's it's been fun
26:04
Speaker 1: watching this team.
26:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, it absolutely has. And you know, you made the
26:10
Speaker 2: point about the I guess the perception of Zegras as
26:13
Speaker 2: a player coming in, you know, yeah, highlight reel flash,
26:19
Speaker 2: maybe not a lot of substance to his game, maybe
26:21
Speaker 2: a little bit allergic to defense. But what we've seen
26:24
Speaker 2: so far, I mean, I feel like it was against
26:26
Speaker 2: Seattle there was a play at which he was kind
26:29
Speaker 2: of behind the net a few games back, and he
26:32
Speaker 2: was about to get crushed into the boards by two
26:35
Speaker 2: guys and he he like it's like a quarterback with
26:37
Speaker 2: the rush on coming. He saw them coming. He was
26:40
Speaker 2: able to flick a pass right in front of the goal,
26:45
Speaker 2: just a beautiful pass for a goal as two guys
26:47
Speaker 2: were putting him into the boards. And it's like that
26:49
Speaker 2: kind of play that someone who it would be, I
26:54
Speaker 2: guess we would consider soft. I don't think they would.
26:57
Speaker 2: They would hang in there and make that play. So
26:59
Speaker 2: that showed me a little something and then you know
27:02
Speaker 2: he's chirpenitized, he's getting in their faces. Yeah, he's he's participating.
27:06
Speaker 2: I mean, I think against the Penguins they had a
27:09
Speaker 2: bit of a brawl there, he kind of got into that.
27:11
Speaker 2: So I mean he's buying in and more and more
27:15
Speaker 2: than him buying in. And we saw it in that
27:17
Speaker 2: in that brawl there, they're they're all buying in. They're
27:21
Speaker 2: all kind of when there's a brawl, they're they're all
27:23
Speaker 2: kind of jumping in. It's like that, and Tockett made
27:26
Speaker 2: mention of it after the game, that pack mentality. So
27:29
Speaker 2: they're standing up for each other, which is especially in
27:33
Speaker 2: a physical sport like hockey, have to have it. It's
27:36
Speaker 2: huge and they're doing it right now. So that's an
27:38
Speaker 2: encouraging thing to see. I mean, I have some things
27:40
Speaker 2: with this team that so far are really encouraging and
27:44
Speaker 2: some stuff that's not so encouraging. Maybe a little bit surprising,
27:49
Speaker 2: going in both directions are really surprising. But yeah, that
27:52
Speaker 2: that is a nice thing to see. Uh, right off
27:54
Speaker 2: the back.
27:55
Speaker 1: Let's get into more of that then too, because I
27:57
Speaker 1: think for me, like and this kind of goes to
27:59
Speaker 1: with with you know, one of the themes with the
28:02
Speaker 1: union talk that we were just discussing, is that Rick
28:05
Speaker 1: Tockett I think has brought a new sense of leadership,
28:10
Speaker 1: of course, to this team and to these guys here.
28:14
Speaker 1: I think I think that Tackett is just that fresh
28:19
Speaker 1: breath of air that a lot of these guys needed,
28:22
Speaker 1: you know, they needed to get away from that John
28:25
Speaker 1: Tortorella old style of coaching, the old mentality. Rick Tocket's
28:30
Speaker 1: just been a breath of fresh air. I think for
28:32
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys. His communication style and how
28:35
Speaker 1: he is able to relate to and just have a
28:37
Speaker 1: relationship with his players. It sounds so ridiculous, but that
28:41
Speaker 1: is a big reason I think why we're seeing success
28:43
Speaker 1: here with this Flyers team.
28:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's you know, they're they're they're playing together,
28:49
Speaker 2: and they're they're doing it, you know, in response to
28:52
Speaker 2: him in a positive way. You know, you that could
28:54
Speaker 2: go in another direction with Tortorella. You know, it didn't
28:58
Speaker 2: quite happen this way, but you would hope if they
28:59
Speaker 2: were going to play together, it would be like, all right,
29:01
Speaker 2: let's let's let's do this and stuff it up the
29:03
Speaker 2: old man's ass and and show him. But they're not
29:08
Speaker 2: there's not that mentality with with talking. It seems like,
29:11
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, I mean he'll get he'll get tough
29:13
Speaker 2: on the guy when he needs to, yeah, you know,
29:15
Speaker 2: and he's done that with even with with Mitchkoff with
29:17
Speaker 2: some of his minutes so far. But you know, but
29:21
Speaker 2: there doesn't seem to be that like all right, it's
29:23
Speaker 2: us against the coach thing where I feel like it
29:26
Speaker 2: was like that quite a bit with uh with Towrderella.
29:28
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Well, you said there were some like other surprises,
29:31
Speaker 1: some other things, you know, whether they're positive or negative, I.
29:34
Speaker 2: Mean negative positive so far. I mean, I'm not surprised
29:40
Speaker 2: by the Zegras has been, you know, scoring at the
29:43
Speaker 2: rate he's been scoring points in our goals and the
29:46
Speaker 2: says so far, I'm very surprised that Sean Coturier is
29:50
Speaker 2: also co leading this team in points right now, a
29:52
Speaker 2: guy that you know, man for the past couple of
29:55
Speaker 2: years has looked like he was on his last legs
29:57
Speaker 2: and it's like he's got this really long contract and
30:00
Speaker 2: oh man, this is going to be an albatross. He's
30:02
Speaker 2: been great so far, so that's a positive. Defensively, I mean,
30:06
Speaker 2: this is a defensive corps where early in the season,
30:10
Speaker 2: rumors out there that you know, oh man, we need
30:12
Speaker 2: to make a trade. This defense corp is atrocious. We
30:15
Speaker 2: have to bring somebody in. It hasn't been bad.
30:19
Speaker 1: Been very very playing good hockey.
30:22
Speaker 2: It's been it's been, you know, great so far as
30:26
Speaker 2: far as that. And then oddly enough, the two I
30:30
Speaker 2: don't know if I want to call him disappointments, but
30:33
Speaker 2: just surprised that there's not more from them right now
30:37
Speaker 2: are the two biggest names on this team, and that's
30:39
Speaker 2: Travis Connectney and Matt Vey Mitchkoff. I mean, if you
30:42
Speaker 2: look at with their production so far, not really there,
30:46
Speaker 2: not really at the level where you would think or
30:48
Speaker 2: hope that it would be. I know, there's been talk
30:52
Speaker 2: with with Mitch gobb in terms of maybe he had
30:54
Speaker 2: an off season injury that he was recovering from and
30:57
Speaker 2: his conditioning isn't where it needs to be yet, and
30:59
Speaker 2: that's kind of process they're working through. But these guys
31:02
Speaker 2: are are the two guys that you thought would be
31:06
Speaker 2: kind of dragging this team along end points and and
31:09
Speaker 2: right now it doesn't seem like it's happening. Yeah, So
31:12
Speaker 2: that I mean, it's I guess you could call it
31:14
Speaker 2: a disappointing surprise. I mean, I do expect them to
31:17
Speaker 2: both turn that around. If this was a season long
31:20
Speaker 2: funk for either of them, I'd be shocked. But it's
31:22
Speaker 2: just like, well, they did not get off to the
31:24
Speaker 2: starts that I had thought, well if they would even.
31:27
Speaker 1: Even what was it a week a week ago maybe
31:30
Speaker 1: two weeks ago where Rick Hackett said he wanted mitchkov
31:33
Speaker 1: to play through this slow start, be ready for more minutes,
31:37
Speaker 1: you know. So I mean that's encouraging too. I think
31:41
Speaker 1: another encouraging aspect of this team is Noah Cates and
31:46
Speaker 1: Tyson Forrester Bobby Brink, my gosh. I mean, they're like.
31:49
Speaker 2: Those depth guys have been have been coming through like
31:52
Speaker 2: the engine. Absolutely yeah, They're like they've.
31:54
Speaker 1: Basically been the engine since last year. And I mean,
31:56
Speaker 1: I guess you got to give it to John Tortorell,
31:58
Speaker 1: I guess for that in a sense.
32:00
Speaker 2: And and you know, I more so with Forster than
32:04
Speaker 2: than Brink. I think last year I felt like I
32:07
Speaker 2: saw it a little bit more out of him than Brink,
32:10
Speaker 2: you know. And Kate's I mean, I guess I just
32:14
Speaker 2: always thought, Okay, he's he's your fourth line center, and
32:18
Speaker 2: how much can you really expect out of that? But
32:20
Speaker 2: he's been he's been doing really well. And then the
32:24
Speaker 2: goaltending is another pleasant surprise. Particularly Vladar. I think he's
32:29
Speaker 2: been Damn he's been, uh just such an improvement over
32:34
Speaker 2: over what we saw last year to the point where
32:37
Speaker 2: I mean Erson, I mean, I don't know if it's
32:41
Speaker 2: one in one A but or one A and one B.
32:44
Speaker 2: But Vladar is not going to be one B for
32:46
Speaker 2: too much longer. If that's a situation, it's in because
32:49
Speaker 2: he has come in and I think he's done a
32:52
Speaker 2: really really strong job so far.
32:54
Speaker 1: I'm watching games and I'm like, thank God for damn Vladar,
32:58
Speaker 1: thank God, because really, I I thought I thought Sam
33:02
Speaker 1: Erson would have started probably like you know, four or
33:04
Speaker 1: five games at this point, you know, maybe and been
33:07
Speaker 1: like and and that's not the case, because I I
33:12
Speaker 1: don't know what it is with some guys. Maybe they
33:14
Speaker 1: just need a change of scenery. Maybe maybe a change
33:17
Speaker 1: of scenery, maybe a change in coaching, like we were
33:19
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, going from you know, going from
33:23
Speaker 1: Torts to uh Rick Tockett. It's just changes of scenery
33:28
Speaker 1: means so much in the world of sports, and I
33:30
Speaker 1: don't need to be so general with it, but really
33:33
Speaker 1: that in itself can make or break professional athletes at times.
33:37
Speaker 1: And yeah, Vladar is in a new situation and he's
33:40
Speaker 1: flourishing in it. Yeah.
33:41
Speaker 2: And last year he lost the Calgary job due I
33:46
Speaker 2: believe Dustin Wolfe was a Calder candidate. I mean, had
33:49
Speaker 2: just a phenomenal year and he just needed to find
33:52
Speaker 2: a different situation where he could come in and potentially
33:56
Speaker 2: be the guy. And usually there's no better place for
34:00
Speaker 2: that in Philadelphia with regard to the goal situation exactly. So,
34:03
Speaker 2: I mean, he found the right spot and he's making
34:05
Speaker 2: it happen. So far, he's you know, you talked about
34:08
Speaker 2: the split of games he's he's played and started in
34:11
Speaker 2: five so far to four for Arson. So yeah, I
34:14
Speaker 2: mean it's I mean, it looks like they might be
34:17
Speaker 2: going for some kind of fifty to fifty split there.
34:19
Speaker 2: But I mean it seems like, I mean they're you know,
34:23
Speaker 2: if you thought Erson was going to be the guy
34:25
Speaker 2: coming in this year, that's not been the case.
34:27
Speaker 3: Yeah.
34:28
Speaker 1: I'm happy about that, very happy about that, all right, buddy. Yeah,
34:32
Speaker 1: any anything else for I let you go here before
34:34
Speaker 1: we get some college football talk with our guests this week.
34:37
Speaker 2: No, I just hopefully you know these it's easy to
34:42
Speaker 2: get sucked in with, especially with the Sixers and the Flyers.
34:46
Speaker 2: You know, a hot start or even a better start
34:49
Speaker 2: than you expected in the Flyers case, we'll we'll kind
34:51
Speaker 2: of do that. I mean, I would imagine at some
34:53
Speaker 2: point the rug just gonna get things. Things may come
34:57
Speaker 2: down a little bit. I mean in the Sixers case,
35:00
Speaker 2: you know, maybe you know, teams are gonna realize, all right,
35:03
Speaker 2: you know, especially if Embiid's not in, we're gonna be
35:05
Speaker 2: able to pound these guys inside and they're not gonna
35:08
Speaker 2: have an answer for it. And it'll be interesting to
35:10
Speaker 2: see how the Sixers CounterPunch there, like what they're what
35:12
Speaker 2: they're gonna do to remedy that. But you know, it's
35:17
Speaker 2: it's been fun early and hopefully that fun continues.
35:19
Speaker 1: All right. That's a great way to end this segment,
35:22
Speaker 1: before we go to break, and before we get to
35:25
Speaker 1: what we're throwing down on the table. My friend, great
35:27
Speaker 1: seeing you, chug that bear.
35:29
Speaker 3: See you as always.
35:32
Speaker 1: Oh, we're gonna take a break, folks, and when we
35:34
Speaker 1: get back, we're gonna get into some college football talk.
35:36
Speaker 1: Stick with us and now on the table. All right,
35:43
Speaker 1: we are back with our good buddy Joe Dalleone from
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35:53
Speaker 1: world of football, just the sports world in general. We
35:55
Speaker 1: got to dive into some college football talk, a lot
35:57
Speaker 1: of great storylines. Joe Man, thanks so much for joining
36:00
Speaker 1: this week.
36:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, excited to chop it up and catch
36:03
Speaker 4: up on what's happening in college football.
36:05
Speaker 1: Absolutely, dude, Like we're gonna get into Penn State. You
36:08
Speaker 1: can see I got my Penn State shirt on here. Okay,
36:11
Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna lum, We're gonna get into this team.
36:14
Speaker 1: As a lot of our listeners know, you know, we
36:16
Speaker 1: dive into some Penn State talk every now and again.
36:18
Speaker 1: But like, I really wanted to start the conversation off
36:22
Speaker 1: because I'm not sure we've seen this in quite some
36:24
Speaker 1: time on how the initial college football rankings were. Right
36:29
Speaker 1: when the season started back in September, Texas was number
36:32
Speaker 1: one in the nation. Penn State, you know, for several
36:35
Speaker 1: weeks they were a top five team even though they
36:38
Speaker 1: were you know, really walking a fine line at times.
36:41
Speaker 1: I was at the Florida International game and it was, honestly,
36:43
Speaker 1: the first half was kind of a I don't want
36:46
Speaker 1: to say debacle, but it was surprising how Penn State
36:48
Speaker 1: was not able to move the ball offensively against Florida International. Anyway,
36:52
Speaker 1: we've seen some big time drops in rankings over the
36:55
Speaker 1: past few weeks of play for a lot of different teams,
36:58
Speaker 1: and again talking about Texas started off number one in
37:01
Speaker 1: the nation and now they're ranked in the in the
37:03
Speaker 1: twenties here at this point. And yes, sometimes upsets happen
37:07
Speaker 1: in college football, but you know, we've seen a lot
37:10
Speaker 1: of these ranked teams that just really weren't all that
37:13
Speaker 1: good at all. Joe, So I'm wondering to get a
37:17
Speaker 1: started off here. Were the initial rankings just sorely wrong
37:20
Speaker 1: overall when the season started here? What are your thoughts
37:23
Speaker 1: on this particular storyline.
37:25
Speaker 4: Well, I don't think that they were sorely wrong, because
37:28
Speaker 4: there are a reason for the hype for a lot
37:30
Speaker 4: of these teams that clems in for Penn State, for Texas,
37:33
Speaker 4: they have elite rosters. They've got very talented players, and
37:36
Speaker 4: it's going to reflect in the twenty twenty six NFL
37:39
Speaker 4: Draft and also future draft classes that a lot of
37:41
Speaker 4: those guys are gonna get picked very early. Where now
37:45
Speaker 4: things are completely changing and completely shifting is that there's
37:50
Speaker 4: a lot easier of a time for teams that are
37:54
Speaker 4: technically below these programs to knock off those top teams.
37:57
Speaker 4: I think that there is been proven in college football
38:00
Speaker 4: this year that there's a lot more balance. So a
38:03
Speaker 4: good example is the Miami game game against Louisville. You
38:06
Speaker 4: wouldn't really expect the team like Louisville to be able
38:08
Speaker 4: to go toe to toe with with Miami, right they
38:10
Speaker 4: were able to play them pretty pretty tightly. So I
38:13
Speaker 4: think that this year we're starting to get more and
38:15
Speaker 4: more proof that the Transfer Portal NIL has created a
38:18
Speaker 4: lot more balance and a lot more spread out talent
38:20
Speaker 4: across the sport that have created opportunities for these upsets
38:24
Speaker 4: to occur.
38:25
Speaker 1: That's pretty interesting because I love the word balance that
38:28
Speaker 1: you use there, Joe, Because when the NIL was established,
38:31
Speaker 1: if you remember Transfer Portal as well, there were so
38:35
Speaker 1: many narratives that said this is going to destroy college football.
38:38
Speaker 1: College football is going to be destroyed in the future.
38:41
Speaker 1: And yes, we've seen some changes I'm not going to
38:43
Speaker 1: say it's destroyed by any stretch of the imagination because
38:45
Speaker 1: of the balance you talked about, it's making college football,
38:48
Speaker 1: I think, actually more watchable in certain ways. Storylines to
38:52
Speaker 1: follow are great, especially this season. I don't think the
38:56
Speaker 1: transfer portal and the NIL has destroyed college football at all.
39:00
Speaker 4: No, and I think that it's made it a lot
39:02
Speaker 4: more compelling.
39:03
Speaker 3: It's made it a lot more interesting to follow a.
39:06
Speaker 4: Lot of these games because you actually have more opportunities
39:10
Speaker 4: for teams that typically wouldn't be as competitive to win.
39:14
Speaker 4: And I think that we're in this spot now where
39:17
Speaker 4: even with the college football Playoff and being expanded, there
39:21
Speaker 4: are still about twenty plus teams that are in the
39:24
Speaker 4: mix for the playoff. And there are some instances where
39:27
Speaker 4: would you talk about elimination games where teams drop a
39:31
Speaker 4: game and they've got three losses. There's going to be
39:34
Speaker 4: that every single week over the next coming weeks.
39:36
Speaker 3: But there are a large swath.
39:39
Speaker 4: Of teams that are now in the mix, and I
39:40
Speaker 4: think that it is really been improved by the fact
39:45
Speaker 4: that the transfer portal and NIL have enabled for more
39:49
Speaker 4: guys to go and play for different teams instead of
39:51
Speaker 4: getting buried on rosters.
39:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a great point. Really is a
39:54
Speaker 1: great point. And really quick, folks, if you're watching on YouTube,
39:57
Speaker 1: we are going to forgive Joe for wearing a Knicks
40:00
Speaker 1: a Nick sweatshirt here in hoodie. Okay, we're gonna for
40:02
Speaker 1: I'm kidding around Joe, my best friends Knicks fan. So anyway,
40:05
Speaker 1: I just I love busting chops every now and again.
40:08
Speaker 1: But anyway, let's continue getting into some other college football
40:12
Speaker 1: talking some storylines too, because we're at that point in
40:15
Speaker 1: the season now where we're starting to talk about who
40:18
Speaker 1: may actually get that Heisman Trophy. I mean, Indiana's quarterback
40:21
Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoz, I'm certainly a top contender here at this point.
40:25
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I don't really really think he was
40:27
Speaker 1: a top top contender on folks radar when the season
40:31
Speaker 1: started initially. But Alabama's quarterback Ty Simpson also is in
40:36
Speaker 1: the mix as well. But man, Mendoza, just I mean,
40:38
Speaker 1: what a magical season for the Hoosiers he's having here.
40:41
Speaker 1: It's incredible what they've done. Who do you like right
40:44
Speaker 1: now in the Heisman race at this point? And why Joe?
40:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Mendoz has been great, and he was
40:50
Speaker 4: somebody that I really liked in the preseason is draft prospect,
40:53
Speaker 4: and I wasn't really sure what to expect if that
40:56
Speaker 4: he was gonna be able to hit the ground running
40:57
Speaker 4: the way that he has in A big contributing factor
41:00
Speaker 4: for that is that he's got a great receiver room
41:03
Speaker 4: with Omar Cooper and Elijah Surratt that he can turn to.
41:06
Speaker 3: He's got a lot of really solid targets.
41:08
Speaker 4: As well as a deep running back group that's alongside him.
41:11
Speaker 4: But the guys that I think that are in the
41:13
Speaker 4: best position to win because they've got more premier matchups
41:17
Speaker 4: down the line, They're gonna be in a lot more
41:19
Speaker 4: national spotlights. I do really like Tys Simpson as being
41:22
Speaker 4: the eventual winner. I think that so far this season
41:25
Speaker 4: he has been a guy who has had multiple spots,
41:28
Speaker 4: multiple instances where he has proved his importance for his team.
41:32
Speaker 4: The one throw that comes to mind that he had
41:34
Speaker 4: against Missouri was a fourth down play where he had
41:37
Speaker 4: to convert in order to help his team win. He
41:39
Speaker 4: did the same thing this past week against South Carolina.
41:42
Speaker 4: He had to make clutch throws in order to help
41:44
Speaker 4: his team avoid an upset. He to me has been
41:48
Speaker 4: the most aggressive and decisive player, the best playmaker of
41:54
Speaker 4: any of the quarterbacks so far this year.
41:56
Speaker 3: But I would also include in the mix.
41:57
Speaker 4: I think Trinidad Chambliss from Ole Miss has been a
42:00
Speaker 4: tremendous high impact guy for an almost team that I
42:04
Speaker 4: don't think they would have been getting this far if
42:05
Speaker 4: it wasn't for his role in that offense. And then lastly,
42:09
Speaker 4: I think that Gunner stocked him for Georgia doesn't get
42:13
Speaker 4: enough love. I think that their defense right now is
42:16
Speaker 4: really struggling and they don't have a pass rush, and
42:18
Speaker 4: the only way that they're going to be able to
42:19
Speaker 4: win games is.
42:20
Speaker 3: By outscoring teams.
42:21
Speaker 4: And the way that they're outscoring teams is Gunner stocked
42:24
Speaker 4: in making big play after big play and making a
42:27
Speaker 4: lot of throws that most guys in the sport right
42:29
Speaker 4: now are not able to make.
42:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, these are some fantastic football players. I think, you know,
42:34
Speaker 1: from a college football perspective, that definitely going to be
42:37
Speaker 1: keeping our eyes on during this Heisman Trophy race. But
42:41
Speaker 1: as we're moving along here, Joe, we wanted to get
42:44
Speaker 1: into some head coaching, you know, possible prospects with storylines
42:47
Speaker 1: that have gone on. Brian Kelly my gosh out at
42:51
Speaker 1: LSU as the head coach. We know that again I
42:54
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier my beloved Penn State Nitny Lions are going
42:56
Speaker 1: to be looking for their next head coach and who's
42:59
Speaker 1: going to be leading next, Nitney lyon Era. I'm wondering
43:02
Speaker 1: what your thoughts are on both of these teams, their
43:06
Speaker 1: athletic departments and who they who they might end up
43:08
Speaker 1: considering to lead both of these teams, both LSU and
43:12
Speaker 1: Penn State. What are your thoughts here?
43:14
Speaker 4: Yeah, LSU is gonna be really interesting to track because
43:17
Speaker 4: it's already been a pretty messy situation.
43:20
Speaker 1: It has politicians are getting involved. It's like, what the heck?
43:24
Speaker 4: Yeah, the governor involvement has made it really messy, and
43:27
Speaker 4: I'm hoping that it calms down a little.
43:29
Speaker 3: Bit because it's not going to really be very attractive.
43:33
Speaker 4: To many of the big names that are looking into
43:36
Speaker 4: potentially taking that job. And I think that the first
43:38
Speaker 4: two names that are gonna get brought up because they
43:40
Speaker 4: have high aspirations is going to be Dan Lanning at
43:43
Speaker 4: Oregon and Lane Kiffen at at Old Miss. They're both
43:48
Speaker 4: elevating their programs. I think that getting Lane Kiffin's a
43:50
Speaker 4: little bit more accomplishable because there's some more limitations at
43:53
Speaker 4: Old Miss. But Dan Lanning is one of those guys
43:56
Speaker 4: that I think you got to push him until he
43:58
Speaker 4: actually truly says no. You never know what you could
44:01
Speaker 4: get out of him if you really really try to
44:04
Speaker 4: pursue him and convince him to take the LSU job.
44:06
Speaker 3: But he's got everything that he wants at Oregon.
44:09
Speaker 4: Outside of that, though, John Summerl at Tulane has been
44:11
Speaker 4: a consistent winner, and I think that it wouldn't really
44:15
Speaker 4: hurt them to look at the G five level as
44:17
Speaker 4: well as ex Goallesh at USF.
44:19
Speaker 3: There are a lot of great coaches.
44:20
Speaker 4: At the G five level and it might be a
44:22
Speaker 4: little bit more of a safer option, one that is
44:24
Speaker 4: going to be a lot less expensive if they decided
44:27
Speaker 4: to go that route. And then for the Penn State
44:29
Speaker 4: side of things, yes, I think both those guys apply
44:32
Speaker 4: summer All and goal Lesh apply for Penn State. It
44:34
Speaker 4: might be best for them to look in that direction
44:38
Speaker 4: of going G five and somebody who's been a programed
44:41
Speaker 4: builder and an elevator. And then I think that the
44:43
Speaker 4: thought of Eli Drinkwitz from Missouri would be really interesting
44:47
Speaker 4: because I feel like Drinkuitz has turned Missouri into a
44:51
Speaker 4: consistent winner, But you place him into a situation at
44:53
Speaker 4: Penn State where it's not that there's really recruiting limitations
44:57
Speaker 4: at Missouri, but I think that there'd be a lot
44:59
Speaker 4: more fuel to improving the program in him reaching a
45:03
Speaker 4: different ceiling if he was in the Big ten, if
45:07
Speaker 4: he was at Penn State and he was able to
45:08
Speaker 4: recruit in that region.
45:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting, you know, following Penn State as closely
45:13
Speaker 1: as I do, Joe, that you had James Franklin, who,
45:16
Speaker 1: quite frankly, from a recruiting standpoint, was amazing. He was
45:20
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, was he on the level of
45:22
Speaker 1: Ohio State necessarily? Not really, And I mean that's at
45:25
Speaker 1: the end of the day, that was really the issue
45:27
Speaker 1: that he just couldn't beat the Ohio States. It was
45:32
Speaker 1: difficult to be top ten teams in key situations year
45:36
Speaker 1: after year. But I do wonder who that coach is
45:40
Speaker 1: going to be that's going to be able to elevate
45:42
Speaker 1: what James Franklin had done for well over a decade.
45:46
Speaker 1: And I'm not necessarily sure that there is a concise
45:50
Speaker 1: answer to that, because there is a certain expectation level
45:54
Speaker 1: for US fans that the program and the recruiting process
45:58
Speaker 1: needs to stay very consistent. But how do you elevate
46:02
Speaker 1: it and with what head coach is going to really
46:04
Speaker 1: make all that difference in the world's that's where That's
46:07
Speaker 1: where I'm at, and I just don't know if there's
46:08
Speaker 1: a concise answer.
46:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that trying to find this next
46:13
Speaker 4: head coach for Penn State is going to be really
46:15
Speaker 4: complicated because originally Penn State was the biggest job open,
46:20
Speaker 4: and then at the time it was, oh, maybe Florida
46:22
Speaker 4: comes open as well. But now you have all these
46:24
Speaker 4: other big jobs, and it also begs the question do
46:27
Speaker 4: we see other openings happen as well? Because all these
46:32
Speaker 4: other big brands panic right because of the performance of
46:35
Speaker 4: their teams. And I'm talking about Auburn with Hugh Freeze,
46:38
Speaker 4: Oklahoma with Britton Venables. Do those either of those teams
46:42
Speaker 4: feel incentivized to get rid of their coaches because they
46:45
Speaker 4: feel like everybody else is trying to upgrade and they
46:48
Speaker 4: don't want to go into next season, you know, a
46:51
Speaker 4: step behind and then go in the next season with
46:54
Speaker 4: not having the right man to turn the program around.
46:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, folks, we're gonna take a quick
46:59
Speaker 1: break here and when we come back we got a
47:01
Speaker 1: lot more college football talk. But before that, again, Joe
47:04
Speaker 1: Dalleone is here from ADZ sports dot com. Joe, let
47:07
Speaker 1: everybody know where they can find you on the socials
47:09
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47:12
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can find me on x at Joe de
47:14
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47:18
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47:21
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47:22
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take that break now, we'll be
47:25
Speaker 1: back in just a bit with more college football talk.
47:31
Speaker 1: All right, we are back, and again we are with
47:34
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47:37
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47:50
Speaker 1: let's let's continue with with getting into this college football
47:53
Speaker 1: season here, Joe, because you've got three teams in Texas
47:57
Speaker 1: A and m Georgia Tech and by you three times,
48:01
Speaker 1: three teams outside of the top two teams that are
48:04
Speaker 1: still undefeated. So I'm wondering, which of those three teams
48:09
Speaker 1: do you think could really take on Ohio State or
48:11
Speaker 1: even Indiana, the number one and the number two teams
48:14
Speaker 1: in the nation, and really give them a run for
48:17
Speaker 1: their money. I mean, essentially, do you think any of
48:20
Speaker 1: those three teams are strong enough to possibly get to
48:25
Speaker 1: number one, number two, or number three in the nation
48:27
Speaker 1: over the next couple weeks?
48:28
Speaker 3: Here?
48:28
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts here?
48:30
Speaker 4: Yeah, I personally I think that BYU is a little
48:34
Speaker 4: bit overrated. I kind of think that they have benefited
48:38
Speaker 4: from a lot of things going their way and a
48:41
Speaker 4: lot of these games that they've had. I think that
48:43
Speaker 4: having a true fresher quarterback Well Bachmeyer has been tremendous.
48:46
Speaker 4: It's gonna end up catching up to them at a
48:48
Speaker 4: certain point. Georgia Tech is I think the best position
48:51
Speaker 4: to go undefeated because they have the best schedule, but
48:54
Speaker 4: they're not the best team to legitimately challenge any of
48:57
Speaker 4: the top teams in college football. Texas A and M
49:00
Speaker 4: that definition because they have so much explosiveness at wide receiver.
49:04
Speaker 4: Concepcion and Craver have been really, really impactful players as
49:08
Speaker 4: well as Marcel Reid, who is been in the heism
49:10
Speaker 4: A conversation. He's kind of on the back end of
49:12
Speaker 4: the mix, but he has such a dynamic playmaking ability
49:16
Speaker 4: for the way that he plays quarterback, and their run
49:18
Speaker 4: game has been awesome as well. Even without level Moss
49:21
Speaker 4: Ruben Owens has stepped up and been a really really
49:24
Speaker 4: just hard nosed runner that has made big play after
49:27
Speaker 4: big play. Defensively, I do have some concerns with the
49:30
Speaker 4: run defense because in instances where they've played against teams
49:34
Speaker 4: that have explosive rushing attacks, whether it be Arkansas, whether
49:37
Speaker 4: it be Notre Dame, they've given up a lot of
49:38
Speaker 4: big plays. But outside of that, their defense has a
49:41
Speaker 4: lot of athletes all over it, a lot of guys
49:43
Speaker 4: that are.
49:43
Speaker 3: Going to get looks very highly in the upcoming draft. Yeah.
49:47
Speaker 3: I'm a very big cashes Hollo fan. I think the
49:49
Speaker 3: cash hel is a.
49:50
Speaker 4: Very unique and disruptive pass rusher that's just got really
49:54
Speaker 4: good hand usage.
49:55
Speaker 3: He's got great burst.
49:56
Speaker 4: I think that this whole roster is just so well
49:59
Speaker 4: put together, and Mike Elko has his team playing with intensity.
50:03
Speaker 4: They're not staring down adversity and freaking out they are
50:06
Speaker 4: just doing everything right and they legitimately have that best
50:09
Speaker 4: shot to maybe even go to a national championship this year.
50:12
Speaker 1: Wow, amazing if they would be able to get to
50:13
Speaker 1: that national championship game. And dude, that's why college football
50:17
Speaker 1: is great. Now. I love the expanded playoff, I really do.
50:19
Speaker 1: I am such a fan of it. I know we're
50:21
Speaker 1: not going to get into any college football playoff talk here,
50:25
Speaker 1: but I did want to get into a subject with you,
50:28
Speaker 1: and quite frankly, we have not dove into this at
50:30
Speaker 1: all on this podcast platform during this college football season.
50:34
Speaker 1: But it's the Bill Belichick experiment in North Carolina that
50:38
Speaker 1: has been a complete and total utter embarrassment. He was Joe.
50:43
Speaker 1: He was supposed to take North Carolina to the next
50:46
Speaker 1: level in college football, to make them an elite team,
50:49
Speaker 1: but it has been the complete opposite. As we know.
50:53
Speaker 1: I mean, the team looks worse than it has over
50:55
Speaker 1: the past six years or so. And he took part
50:58
Speaker 1: in actually building where this his team is at this
51:00
Speaker 1: year basically from scratch. You know, I think he added
51:03
Speaker 1: like what seventy new players something like that this year
51:07
Speaker 1: in the you know, in the in the off season.
51:09
Speaker 1: So I guess what are your thoughts on why this
51:13
Speaker 1: has turned into such a train wreck and what should
51:16
Speaker 1: North Carolina actually do about it at this point?
51:19
Speaker 4: Well, I think that they shouldn't just immediately pull the plug,
51:23
Speaker 4: because there's there's been a pretty significant commitment to try
51:26
Speaker 4: and make this work. It seems like from a lot
51:28
Speaker 4: of the reporting that's been done on this, Michael Lombardi,
51:31
Speaker 4: who's the general manager, has been.
51:33
Speaker 3: One of the biggest issues for this.
51:35
Speaker 4: A lot of people have questioned if he's qualified to
51:37
Speaker 4: even have this job. He's getting paid an exorbitant amount
51:40
Speaker 4: of money that is way more than the typical general manager,
51:43
Speaker 4: and he's got no experience of serving in that role.
51:46
Speaker 4: So I think that a lot of the problems that
51:48
Speaker 4: they have really funnel towards that.
51:50
Speaker 3: Okay, if Belichick wants.
51:52
Speaker 4: To improve and take this thing into a better direction,
51:55
Speaker 4: needs a fire Lombardi. He needs to hire an actual
51:57
Speaker 4: college general manager that's at a program that is been
52:01
Speaker 4: built up, that you know, a guy that's been around
52:04
Speaker 4: that has had sustained success. I think that there is
52:07
Speaker 4: redeemability here, and I think that North Carolina could end
52:10
Speaker 4: up finishing the year strong, but completely putting the plug
52:13
Speaker 4: on everything. If Belichick has a desire to continue doing this,
52:17
Speaker 4: I think would be a little bit hasty, and I
52:18
Speaker 4: think it would be a little bit rushed, because there
52:20
Speaker 4: still is a path for North Carolina to become competitive
52:23
Speaker 4: and to be a sustained top program in the ACC
52:28
Speaker 4: if everything can go right.
52:29
Speaker 3: Yeah.
52:29
Speaker 1: Look, I really don't think this has much to do
52:31
Speaker 1: with his girlfriend, to be honest with you. On the sidelines,
52:35
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that's like the sexy aspect of
52:37
Speaker 1: this quote sexy aspect of the story, but you're right,
52:40
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that at all. A lot of
52:43
Speaker 1: missteps along the way, specifically with Lombardy, like you were
52:45
Speaker 1: talking about. So to close this out here, Joe, I mean,
52:49
Speaker 1: we know that Indiana, as we talked about before, you know,
52:51
Speaker 1: they're the big Cinderella surprise story really of this season.
52:54
Speaker 1: They're number two in the nation right now as of
52:56
Speaker 1: US recording this year. And I'm wondering, what are some
53:00
Speaker 1: of the other quote low key teams that have really
53:03
Speaker 1: surprised you this season in terms of how productive and
53:06
Speaker 1: how good that they've been on the field. What are
53:09
Speaker 1: your thoughts here.
53:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had high expectations for Indiana this year, so
53:13
Speaker 4: they've been a little bit less surprising for me, just
53:16
Speaker 4: because they brought back so much experience, They brought back
53:20
Speaker 4: so many of their top guys from last season, and
53:22
Speaker 4: then the upgrade that they had with Mendoza at quarterback.
53:24
Speaker 4: But one team that I think has been the most
53:27
Speaker 4: surprising and has in really good positioning to get to
53:30
Speaker 4: the playoff maybe even when a game it's old miss
53:33
Speaker 4: and the thing for me this offseason, I didn't really
53:35
Speaker 4: understand what to expect, and I think that there's still
53:37
Speaker 4: limitations with what I wasn't super high on going into
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Speaker 4: the year, which is what they brought to the table. Defensively,
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Speaker 4: the run defense is quite porous. They've given up a
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Speaker 4: lot of big plays in the ground. But the wild
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Speaker 4: card has been Trinidad Chambliss when he stepped in for
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Speaker 4: Austin Simmons and he hasn't looked back. He is a
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Speaker 4: point guard style playmaker that fits perfectly with what Lane
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Speaker 4: Kiffen has wanted on offense. And I think that this
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Speaker 4: team is alive in any football game when he's back.
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Speaker 3: There, you know, taking snaps at quarterback.
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Speaker 4: They are a really really exciting fun team to watch
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Speaker 4: because at any point that the game I start to
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Speaker 4: get away from him like it did against Oklahoma, Chamblis
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Speaker 4: is capable of igniting that offense in producing some really
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Speaker 4: big play. So for me, Ole Miss definitely has been
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Speaker 4: the most surprising team, and they continue to prove me
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Speaker 4: wrong with the way that they've They've been showing up
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Speaker 4: every single week.
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