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Vallow children go missing, mommy and new hubby found in luxury Hawaii resort. · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Where are two Idaho children, Tyley Ryan and jj Valo?
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  Speaker 1: It gets curiouser and curiouser to steal from Alice in Wonderland,
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  Speaker 1: and I got a really bad feeling. I don't like
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  Speaker 1: to jinx the case and to get go by saying
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  Speaker 1: I've got a bad feeling. But I can tell you
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  Speaker 1: this much. When police have to give mommy an ultimatum
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  Speaker 1: in a court order telling her to produce her two
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  Speaker 1: children to show their alive and she doesn't have a response,
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  Speaker 1: that's not good. Where are Tyley Ryan and jj Valo?
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  Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace? Where are your kids? You'll comment,
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  Speaker 1: They've been missing for much, I think to say. The
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  Speaker 1: mother of two Idaho children who have been missing since
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  Speaker 1: September refused to tell a reporter where they are. East
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  Speaker 1: Idaho News tracked down Laurie Daybell and her husband Chad
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  Speaker 1: in Hawaii and tried to get answers from them after
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  Speaker 1: local police in Kawai reportedly searched their home and vehicle.
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  Speaker 1: Just tell us where they are, Chad, Where are Laurie's kids.
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  Speaker 1: Laurie day Bell is the mother of seven year old
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  Speaker 1: Joshua jj Valo and seventeen year old Tylee Ryan, who
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  Speaker 1: haven't been seen in months. The children's grandparents are offering
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  Speaker 1: a twenty thousand dollars reward for information leading to the kids.
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  Speaker 1: You are hearing our friends an inside edition. Where are
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  Speaker 1: two Idaho children, Tyle Ryan and JJ Valo? I'm Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 1: This is Scribe Stories. Thank you for being with us
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  Speaker 1: with me an all star panel, Jason Ocean's renown New
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  Speaker 1: York defense attorney, Bobby Chico and former FBI star of
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  Speaker 1: Facebook watched series Curse of Akacre. You know her well,
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst to the Stars and Beverly Hills.
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  Speaker 1: You can find her doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Karen Smith,
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  Speaker 1: LA California forensics expert, lecturer University Florida and host of
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  Speaker 1: Shattered Soul's podcast. But right now to Nate Eton, investigative
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  Speaker 1: reporter with East Idaho News dot Com. Nate, take a
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  Speaker 1: listen to our friends at Valo at NBC twelve. As
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  Speaker 1: for Laurie and two of her kids, JJ, entirely mystery
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  Speaker 1: surrounds where they are. It's like an emotional rollercoaster. JJ's
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  Speaker 1: Graham and Kay doesn't know what happened. What we do
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  Speaker 1: know is that the two children were last seen in
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  Speaker 1: Idaho on September twenty three, and after Valo's death, Laurie
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  Speaker 1: married Chad day Bell, both members of an extreme religious group.
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  Speaker 1: They were a doomsday oh then they just were always
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  Speaker 1: prepared for the end of the world. And Chad and
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  Speaker 1: Laurie's wedding happening just weeks after day Bell's wife died
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  Speaker 1: mysteriously in her sleep. It's yet another death under investigation
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  Speaker 1: in a case full of twists that now involves the
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  Speaker 1: search for JJ and tay Lee, as no one has
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  Speaker 1: seen them in nearly four months. That's our friend at
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  Speaker 1: NBC twelve. That was Michael Doudna, but with me right now,
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  Speaker 1: investigative reporter Nate eating East Idhoenews dot com. Nate, I
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  Speaker 1: was trying to count up the dead bodies connected to
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  Speaker 1: these people. And I'm not saying victims of these two people.
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying connected to them, you know, like Jessica Fletcher
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  Speaker 1: I murder. She wrote, you know, if you just made
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  Speaker 1: her in the street, you're probably gonna die, all right.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody surrounding Laurie Vallo and her new husband, Chad day Bell,
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  Speaker 1: drops like flies now tell me if I'm wrong, Nate. So,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, you have her one of her I
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  Speaker 1: think four or five husbands, and I think his last
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  Speaker 1: name was Ryan, and that's who she has a grown
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  Speaker 1: son by. All right, they're out of the picture because
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  Speaker 1: he's dead. The dad is dead, alleged by a heart problem,
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  Speaker 1: and now his body's been cremated, so rut road, no
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  Speaker 1: autopsy there, all right. Then we have her other husband, Valo.
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  Speaker 1: He's dead. He got shot by her brother. Now the
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  Speaker 1: only two that know what really happened are Laurie Valo
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  Speaker 1: and her brother. But whoops, Then he's dead. Then we
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  Speaker 1: have Chad day Bell, her new husband's wife. She's dead.
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  Speaker 1: She quote died in her sleep. And then he, the husband,
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  Speaker 1: Chad day Bell, decided he would refuse an autopsy. So
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  Speaker 1: we don't really know why Chad day Bell's wife died,
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  Speaker 1: but I do know two weeks later he married Laurie Valo.
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  Speaker 1: And what else do I know? Let's see, that's first husband,
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  Speaker 1: next husband, why brother? That's four? Okay, Nate. Eight. I
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  Speaker 1: know that the wife somebody has been exhumed, like December
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  Speaker 1: ten or twelve, and we're waiting on her autopsy reports.
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  Speaker 1: I find it very hard to believe, Nate, she just
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  Speaker 1: died in her sleep. Well, she was really healthy, Nancy.
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  Speaker 1: I mean this was a woman in her forties, really
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  Speaker 1: as a horse, healthy as a horse. She was a
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  Speaker 1: young woman. Yeah, she was actually training to do a race,
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  Speaker 1: to do a run. So she falls asleep one night
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  Speaker 1: and doesn't wake up. They call the police. Oh, Dom,
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  Speaker 1: I wait, Nate, Nate, Nate, Doctor Bethany Marshall. I sleep
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  Speaker 1: with one eye open because the story's just like this.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how can you go to sleep with your
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  Speaker 1: husband beside you when you've got somebody like Chad Dave
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  Speaker 1: Ell and Lorie Valo hanging around the bed. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: tell you this is a very scary story. Isn't our
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  Speaker 1: bed supposed to be the safest place? This is the
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  Speaker 1: least safe place in both of the couple's houses. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: sleeping with one eye open is a very good idea.
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  Speaker 1: And of course you wouldn't want to be their children.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, these two don't even know how to raise
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  Speaker 1: a potted plant, you know, Nate, Aten. I've got so
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  Speaker 1: many questions, but I keep interrupting you bad, bad. I'm
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  Speaker 1: hitting my hand right now because I've got to ask
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  Speaker 1: you about this doomsday cult now the top at all off,
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  Speaker 1: Nate aten She the mom Laurie Vallo. We're looking for
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  Speaker 1: her two children, Tyling and JJ. She gets involved in
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  Speaker 1: some doomsday cult with Chad day Bill. Is it sho
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  Speaker 1: He's written twenty five books on the end of the world. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's really big into the end of times. And Laurie Vallo.
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  Speaker 1: She believes that the world will end this July, according
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  Speaker 1: to divorce papers that were filed last year with her
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  Speaker 1: previous husband, that she will usher in the second coming
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  Speaker 1: of Jesus Christ, that she has had been reincarnated, and
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  Speaker 1: that she has a chosen God, and so that's who
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  Speaker 1: she thinks she is in the end of the world
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  Speaker 1: is coming and that the world needs to be ready.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I certainly have no Bible scholar, but I
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  Speaker 1: do know this. According to Christ, no one will know
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  Speaker 1: when he will come back bam in a story. So
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  Speaker 1: I guess these people have the inside track. Nate Eaton,
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  Speaker 1: I want to apologize for interrupting you so many times.
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  Speaker 1: I want you to take it from the top, tell
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  Speaker 1: me everything, don't leave anything out. And Bobby Chicone, you
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  Speaker 1: better not interrupt him Okay, go Nate eten. All right,
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  Speaker 1: so let's just start with Chad and Laura. You've set
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  Speaker 1: it up. They were married a couple of couple of
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  Speaker 1: months ago. Two weeks after Chad's wife two weeks I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: that was Bobby Chicon. She dies in her sleep. Two
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  Speaker 1: weeks later, he marries Laurie val I mean she's good looking,
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  Speaker 1: she ain't all that. Okay, go ahead, So they get married.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Chad has children with his first wife, Cammy.
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  Speaker 1: They're adult children now. Tammy has these other two children
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  Speaker 1: from previous spouses. They come up to Idaho, the grandparents
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  Speaker 1: of whoa whoa, whoa whoa? How many spouses? Just fill
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  Speaker 1: me in four? Five previous husbands. Well, this is now
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  Speaker 1: her fifth Chat is her fifth husband, so she's been
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  Speaker 1: married five. I blame that all on the men. There
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  Speaker 1: was clearly something wrong with those men, because that mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, how could it be her. Didn't she tell
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  Speaker 1: this husband, if you get in the way with me
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  Speaker 1: and the doomsday and leading one hundred and forty four
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  Speaker 1: thousand to the New Jerusalem, I'll kill you. Did I
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  Speaker 1: get that right out of the divorce papers? Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: what the first husband was concerned about He tried to
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  Speaker 1: get Nancy. He tried to get custody of them. He
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  Speaker 1: was worried for their safety. Now, why would anybody believe
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  Speaker 1: it was her fault? She had so many divorces. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead, Nate. The grandparents of these of these children
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  Speaker 1: called the police and say we're concerned. We haven't seen him.
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  Speaker 1: JJ would call grandma multiple times the day he has autism.
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  Speaker 1: He called her on the iPad and they face time
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  Speaker 1: non stop, one after the other after the other for
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  Speaker 1: a couple of seconds. Suddenly that stops cold. Tylie, who
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  Speaker 1: was very high. Okay, wait a minute. That is significant, Nate,
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  Speaker 1: because I have a little nephew that's downs and he
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  Speaker 1: texts me all the time. Sometimes it's the very same text,
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  Speaker 1: and I want to send back a picture. I retext
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  Speaker 1: back and forth. But then when he doesn't text, I
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  Speaker 1: know something is wrong. That's a big indicator. Where are
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  Speaker 1: Tyley and JJ? Crime stories with Nancy Grace July eleventh,
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  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. At this point, the kids were doing well,
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  Speaker 1: but they witnessed the death of their father, Charles Valow
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  Speaker 1: in Chandler, Arizona. He was shot and killed by Lorie
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  Speaker 1: Valo's brother, a man named Alex Cox. Alex said the
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  Speaker 1: shooting was in self defense, but the case is still
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  Speaker 1: under investigation. This incident star started with an argument, a
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  Speaker 1: family argument. Fast forward now to September twenty three. This
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  Speaker 1: is the last time anyone reported seeing the children, Jj
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  Speaker 1: and Tylie at school in Rexburg, Idaho, but nobody reported
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  Speaker 1: them missing until about two months later. We'll get to
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  Speaker 1: that in a little bit, but first let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: Chad day Bell's wife, Tammy. Her dad tells me she
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  Speaker 1: was alive and well. On October fourth, she drove down
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  Speaker 1: from Rexburg to visit her parents in Springville, Utah. But
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  Speaker 1: two weeks later, on October nineteenth, the parents got a
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  Speaker 1: call from Chad saying Tammy went to bed coughing and
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  Speaker 1: never woke up. At the time, doctors said she died
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  Speaker 1: from natural causes at the age of forty nine. Our
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  Speaker 1: friends at Fox Chane, Utah. That was Adam Herbert's with
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  Speaker 1: me right now. Report from East Idaho News dot Com
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  Speaker 1: Nate eighton Nate if you don't mind tea it up
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  Speaker 1: at the get go and start over. Thanks, all right,
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  Speaker 1: So we have Chad and Laurie Jay Bell. They are
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  Speaker 1: a couple that were married in October, just two weeks
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  Speaker 1: after Chad day Bell's wife passes away in her sleep.
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  Speaker 1: She's a healthy woman, she's in her forties. They have children.
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  Speaker 1: She was the school librarian. Everybody loved her at the school.
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  Speaker 1: Chad gets married to Laurie day Bell or Laurie Vallo
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  Speaker 1: at the time. Laurie has two children, JJ and Tylie.
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  Speaker 1: The grandparents of these two children become a little concerned
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  Speaker 1: because they haven't heard from him. JJ was a kid
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  Speaker 1: that would call non stop to FaceTime Grandma. Suddenly those
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  Speaker 1: called stop. Tylie very active on social media like your
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  Speaker 1: typical teenager. Those post stop please go over to their
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  Speaker 1: Idaho home. They asked to see the children. The children
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  Speaker 1: aren't there. Detectives say that Laurie said, oh, they're with relatives.
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  Speaker 1: They call the relatives, the children aren't there. Please come
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  Speaker 1: out and say that Laurie has lied to them. She
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  Speaker 1: will not tell them the location of her two children.
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  Speaker 1: They put out an alert at the end of the
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  Speaker 1: December saying we need help finding these children. The parents
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  Speaker 1: then take off and I think we have not known
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  Speaker 1: where those children, those parents are, and we found them
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  Speaker 1: in Hawaii. Principal Hawaii. Do you say Cawie? Is that how?
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  Speaker 1: It's that the island of Cowie and it's principal. Okay, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I knew that. I was just testing you see if
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  Speaker 1: you knew U. Nate eaton with me East Idaho News
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  Speaker 1: dot com and I'm going to bring in the panel
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  Speaker 1: on just one moment. There's just so much information. Tell
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  Speaker 1: me about the doomsday cult? Now, when I researched it,
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  Speaker 1: the first thing that pops up is a website. It's
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  Speaker 1: Prepare the People or Prepare a People. I've seen it
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  Speaker 1: both ways, and a minute I go to it online
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  Speaker 1: side pops up that says we are graphic designers. We
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  Speaker 1: are not a doomsday cult. So what is the correct
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  Speaker 1: name of the doomsday cult? Tell me about the cult
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  Speaker 1: that Lori that Hello has gotten into under the influence
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  Speaker 1: of Sengali ched daybel His wife dies in her sleep
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  Speaker 1: and two weeks later he marries Laurie. You said Laurie
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  Speaker 1: has two children. I think she has three, but two
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  Speaker 1: with her that are the issue here. The older one,
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  Speaker 1: last named Ryan, is you know, I think in his
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  Speaker 1: twenties and his dad is the one that died of
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  Speaker 1: natural causes and got cremated immediately. Nate, tell me about
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  Speaker 1: this doomsday cult. So Laurie was really big into the
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  Speaker 1: end of times and it's called preparing of people. Now
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  Speaker 1: they say they are not a cult, but they are
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  Speaker 1: simply a preparent website. You know how to stock you
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  Speaker 1: stock up on your your supplies for the end of times.
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  Speaker 1: She got involved in this, it's likely that she took
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  Speaker 1: this to the extreme. Okay, wait, nay, nay, you're the
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  Speaker 1: investigative reporter. I thought, at the end of time, the
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  Speaker 1: world basically blows up. So how are Campbell's soup cans
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  Speaker 1: in your basement gonna help you when that happens. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that's a good question. A lot of people
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  Speaker 1: believe that by stocking up on supplies in case there's
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  Speaker 1: a famine, in case, you know, there's floods, that you
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  Speaker 1: can get to your grocery store and stock up on food,
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  Speaker 1: that by having that in your home, you can, you know,
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  Speaker 1: have substance to have that. A lot of people believe
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  Speaker 1: in storing guns right now. Isn't this the part where
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  Speaker 1: the zombies break in and get your food, neat your children?
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  Speaker 1: Oh wait, I'm sorry, that was a different doomsday scenario. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: back to this doomsday scenario, go ahead, now, So well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Laurie was big into this, and we know that from
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  Speaker 1: divorce papers that her previous husband, who is now dead,
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  Speaker 1: filed saying that he was concerned for these children because
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  Speaker 1: Laurie believes she was one of the hundred and forty
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  Speaker 1: thousand people who would usher in the second coming of
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  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. Excuse me, right there. You know, Nate, you've
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  Speaker 1: got a really good reputation. It's one hundred and forty
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  Speaker 1: four thousand people. I'm sorry, you're right, I mean getting
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  Speaker 1: together eating. Now wait a minute, Nate, Nate, Nate, this
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  Speaker 1: is a sect an offshoot of the Church of Latter
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  Speaker 1: day Saints. Okay, so it's an offshoot of them. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure the Latter day Saints are just cringing at the
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  Speaker 1: suggestion that these guys are a part of them. But
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  Speaker 1: it's it's more than just hey, there might be a
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  Speaker 1: famine or a flood. She actually think that she's sealed
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  Speaker 1: forever in marriage to the ancient prophet Marouni, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the one that the Marmons think found the Golden tablets
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  Speaker 1: and then WHOOPSI lost them. That guy. The one of
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  Speaker 1: the convictions for fraud him Maronai. Okay, not judging, none
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  Speaker 1: of my business. So she thinks she's married to Marona,
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  Speaker 1: and she thinks she's going to help lead one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and forty four thousand chosen to the New Jerusalem. That's
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  Speaker 1: more than just a famine name, you're right about that.
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  Speaker 1: She also thinks that the world's ending in July. So
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  Speaker 1: you've got five months here, the next five months to
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  Speaker 1: get it together. Yes, five months to get it together. Like,
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  Speaker 1: if it's true, I'm certainly not going to be laughing
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  Speaker 1: in July. So Nate, tell me about there's only in
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  Speaker 1: my mind two scenarios. Nate, the cops. I understand. It
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  Speaker 1: all started with the grandparents saying, we haven't seen our children.
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  Speaker 1: Cops go look. The cops go look at their home
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  Speaker 1: in Arizona. The children aren't there. She mommy lies and
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  Speaker 1: says they're visiting in Arizona. Overnight, cops find out that
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  Speaker 1: children are not visiting in Arizona. They come back the
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  Speaker 1: next day, Laurie Valo is gone. She's high telled it.
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  Speaker 1: At that point, they leave for Hawaii and they stay
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  Speaker 1: missing for two months. A search warrant was affected in Princeville,
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  Speaker 1: and I bet it was to look and see if
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  Speaker 1: there was any indication the children were there. I see
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  Speaker 1: only two possibilities, Nate. Either the children are dead God forbid,
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  Speaker 1: or the children are bunked up with this doomsday cult. Nate,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think? Well, Nancy, it's if I asked
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  Speaker 1: you right now, where are your children? I think you
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  Speaker 1: could give me an answer. I think any parent. Oh yes,
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  Speaker 1: oh yes, I know exactly what where they are. I
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  Speaker 1: even know what their socks and their underwear and their
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  Speaker 1: belt and their clothes look like, because I set them
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  Speaker 1: out the night before. Yes, I know where they are.
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  Speaker 1: And if I'm wrong, may I be struck dead? Right now?
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead? Yeah, So I we found them on Hawaii
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  Speaker 1: and I asked, I asked Lorie a half dozen times
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  Speaker 1: to a dozen times, where are your children? And she's
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  Speaker 1: not saying. And that's what's so frustrating things. Wait, that
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  Speaker 1: was you, that was you that kept saying where. I'm
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  Speaker 1: so proud of you. Keep going. So the detectives have
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  Speaker 1: been trying to get this answer. You know what. They
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  Speaker 1: even said FaceTime. Put them on FaceTime. Have them hold
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  Speaker 1: up a newspaper with today's date. We want to see
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  Speaker 1: the kids, that's all you have to do. And she's
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  Speaker 1: not talking and Chat isn't talking, so you know, Heaven forbid,
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  Speaker 1: they could be dead somewhere anywhere. We hope not, and
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  Speaker 1: I hope not, or as you said, they might be
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  Speaker 1: hidden somewhere. But it is concerning that there's been no
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  Speaker 1: social media nothing. It went cold with Tyley and she
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  Speaker 1: was always on her social media platforms, posting stuff NonStop.
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  Speaker 1: It's also my understanding with Tyley that she may have
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  Speaker 1: texted a friend from her phone. Guys, we are on
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  Speaker 1: the search for Tyley and JJ and right now it
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  Speaker 1: is not looking good because even Mommy won't reveal where
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  Speaker 1: her children are. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Chad day Bell,
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  Speaker 1: and Laurie Valo are newly weds. Both of them had
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  Speaker 1: spouses who suspiciously died within the last few months. Tonight
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  Speaker 1: we spoke to a man who used to be part
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  Speaker 1: of the family and has some insight on what might
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  Speaker 1: be going on. To my right, I have Laurie say hello, Laurie,
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  Speaker 1: Hello people. This is a clip from Laurie Valo's religious podcast,
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  Speaker 1: recorded before she and her new husband, Chad Day Bell
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  Speaker 1: started running from police, accused of lying about the location
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  Speaker 1: of her two missing children. If you did something bad yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: the Lord wants you to say you're sorry today and
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  Speaker 1: just do better tomorrow. Spent the last eleven years of
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  Speaker 1: my life spending time with Lorie and her now deceased husband, Charles.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to those kids. I know
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  Speaker 1: that there's people who do and they're not talking. Brandon Boudreau,
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  Speaker 1: who used to be married to Laurie Valo's niece, says
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  Speaker 1: he was part of the family. He baptized Laurie's daughter,
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  Speaker 1: Tyleie Ryan and loved JJ, her adopted son with aught.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why they're doing what they're doing and
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  Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. All joking aside about far fetched
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  Speaker 1: ideas in doomsday predictions. These children are missing, and you
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  Speaker 1: just heard the voice of Brandon Boudreaux, who was married
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  Speaker 1: to Laurie Valoe day Belle's niece. Well, they're split up
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  Speaker 1: after the niece joined the cult, and somebody driving the
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  Speaker 1: dead husband's car took a shot at Brandon so, I
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  Speaker 1: mean with a gun. So this is extremely dangerous. If
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  Speaker 1: you have any information, please dial two zero eight three
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  Speaker 1: to five nine three thousand. Back to Nate Eaton, who's
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  Speaker 1: just about to head off to the police station. Nate
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  Speaker 1: from East Idahoo News dot Com. You left off with
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  Speaker 1: you going to Hawaii and confronting Laurie Valoe. I want
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  Speaker 1: to know something I can't learn from just watching it
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  Speaker 1: on TV. Tell me her demeanor. Tell me exactly what happened. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you. One of the detectives said that
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  Speaker 1: when they opened that car door where they put her,
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  Speaker 1: they put her in a police car for a while.
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  Speaker 1: She looked at that detective and he said it was
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  Speaker 1: as if lasers were coming out of her eyes. She
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  Speaker 1: was stone cold, his words, like a snake. Oh. He
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  Speaker 1: just put chills down my arms. Because a couple of
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  Speaker 1: times in coordinate, I would look over at a defendant
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  Speaker 1: and they would look at me like that, it's not
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  Speaker 1: even a human look. So what was her demeanor when
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  Speaker 1: you were asking her questions? Tell me about the gated
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  Speaker 1: village where they were living. So they lived in this
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  Speaker 1: gated community. The neighbors tell us that they were rarely there.
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  Speaker 1: They moved in in December. It was one of those
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  Speaker 1: units that didn't have furniture, so they had furniture delivered,
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  Speaker 1: and they would come late. They were rarely seen. The
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  Speaker 1: neighbors said, you know, when those people go to Hawaii,
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  Speaker 1: they're happy, they're care free. Oh, we live on an island,
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  Speaker 1: it's great, they're friendly. Not these guys. They were very guarded.
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  Speaker 1: They were rarely home, and any interaction was short, superficial,
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  Speaker 1: to the point neighbors had no idea that they were
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  Speaker 1: even on the run, that they were, you know, looking
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  Speaker 1: for these children, until we showed up and the police
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  Speaker 1: showed up and served these warrants. The other day, you said,
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  Speaker 1: they hardly ever see them. Are you're telling me they
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  Speaker 1: kept odd hours, because that's a stereotypical clue. People come
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  Speaker 1: in late at night, the neighbors don't say them. What
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  Speaker 1: can you tell me about their habits? Yeah, that's exactly
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  Speaker 1: what you said. They were. They were coming late. It's
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  Speaker 1: like they didn't even live there, that they maybe had
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  Speaker 1: another home. Now we know that Laurie loved to stay
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  Speaker 1: at a resort just down the street from their home,
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  Speaker 1: and so she was often there at that resort, coming
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  Speaker 1: and going. In fact, that resort a year ago, once
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  Speaker 1: her previous husband filed for a divorce, she showed up
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  Speaker 1: with Tylie and they stayed for a month in that resort.
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  Speaker 1: Where are they getting the money for all this? I'd
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  Speaker 1: like to get stay at a resort for a month night. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, sometimes when people die, they have big life
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  Speaker 1: insurance policies, and there's some speculation that there a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the former spouses may have had some money in
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  Speaker 1: their dad, Nate Eton, the clock is ticking down. I
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  Speaker 1: know you're heading to the PlayStation right now, So give
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  Speaker 1: me a dada dump as fast as you can. Tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: the deadline in just a few hours. There supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be in court with the children. Nate. What more can
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  Speaker 1: you tell me before you rush off? Well, the judge
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  Speaker 1: has said that Laurie has until Thursday to show up
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  Speaker 1: with those two children in Idaho. If not, a warrant
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  Speaker 1: could be issued for her arrest, or there could be
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  Speaker 1: a civil penalty filed against her, or the judge could
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  Speaker 1: hold off and decide not to do anything. We may
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  Speaker 1: not know because most cases involving children are sealed, but
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  Speaker 1: in this particular case, the prosecutor made the decision to
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  Speaker 1: release that one bit of information that the judge had
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  Speaker 1: issued the order to get the kids there just in
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  Speaker 1: case anybody out there has the kids, they can get
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  Speaker 1: the kids there and then hopefully there can be some answer.
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  Speaker 1: Nate Atan, is it true that in recent months Laurie
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  Speaker 1: Valoe and her new husband, Chad day Belle, have said
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  Speaker 1: that Lorie's daughter Tyley was dead. I have not heard that.
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  Speaker 1: I have heard that reported in multiple spots. They've told
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  Speaker 1: people the daughter's dad and she has no other minor children,
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  Speaker 1: and Nate eighton, just the whole thing is astounding me.
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  Speaker 1: Is there any hope that the children are still alive? Nate?
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  Speaker 1: You know, we hope that they are. The police hope
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  Speaker 1: that they are. The grandparents are holding out hope that
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  Speaker 1: they are. But again, as we talked about earlier, it's
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  Speaker 1: a simple question, where are your kids? If you have
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  Speaker 1: nothing to hide, just tell us with me night Eton
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  Speaker 1: reporter East Idaho News dot Com. He's heading to the
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  Speaker 1: police station right now. Take a listen to our friends
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  Speaker 1: at NBC twelve. Police searching for an Idaho brother and
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  Speaker 1: sister confirmed they're now investigating a string of mysterious deaths
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  Speaker 1: in the family. The whereabouts of the parents are unknown,
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  Speaker 1: but investigators believe mother Lordie Valo knows where the children
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  Speaker 1: are or what happened to them. Police are now looking
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  Speaker 1: into three deaths, Valo's brother, along with a couple's former spouses,
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  Speaker 1: even exhuming the body of husband Chad day Bell's first wife.
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  Speaker 1: There was a number of issues that distant look right.
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  Speaker 1: Seventeen year old Tayley and seven year old JJ last
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  Speaker 1: scene in September. Your grandmother's worried, sick. What kind of
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  Speaker 1: mother won't cooperate with the authorities. Brandon Boudreau married into
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  Speaker 1: the family and believes Lorie joined a religious group founded
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  Speaker 1: buying day Bell, who has authored books about doomsday. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know why they're doing what they're doing and doesn't
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  Speaker 1: make any sense. I don't know what happened to those kids.
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  Speaker 1: I know that there's people who do when they're not talking.
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  Speaker 1: Boodrou says he was almost killed in a drive by shooting.
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  Speaker 1: Police confirmed they are investigating that incident too. You were
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  Speaker 1: just hearing our friend Matt Gutman over at ABC. The
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  Speaker 1: search is on for two children, Tyleie Ryan and Joshua
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  Speaker 1: JJ Valo. You notice the two different last names. Tyley's dad.
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  Speaker 1: She has another brother who's older, lives on his own.
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  Speaker 1: He's emancipated, he's grown up, died ostensibly of a heart attack,
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  Speaker 1: and then he was suddenly cremated. We've got a string
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  Speaker 1: of four deaths surrounding these two and then throwing the
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  Speaker 1: monkey ranch of a doomsday cult in the heart of
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  Speaker 1: the investigation the missing children. Straight out to Bobby to
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  Speaker 1: cons former special agent FBI start our Facebook watched series
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  Speaker 1: Curse of Acacre. Bobby, you know, harn't I even know
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  Speaker 1: where to start on this one. And when I'm like that,
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  Speaker 1: I just dive in. Let's just start with what's most
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  Speaker 1: important right now, and that's where are the children? How
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  Speaker 1: do we find out if they're dead or alive? That's
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  Speaker 1: frightnanc And the reason we don't know where to start
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  Speaker 1: is that you have five basically mysteries that are all
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  Speaker 1: intercepting any one of these five incidents. The four deaths
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  Speaker 1: and the missing children are very complex. And the way
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  Speaker 1: you start a missing children's cases you go to the
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  Speaker 1: last person who would have seen them alive, and that's
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  Speaker 1: the mother and or would know where they are. And
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  Speaker 1: this is just it's kind of basic common sense. Is
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  Speaker 1: why this case is so frustrating is everybody knows the
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  Speaker 1: same thing to do is ask the mother, this mother
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  Speaker 1: had customy of these children their whole lives. Where are
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  Speaker 1: the end If you think about whether the mothers should
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  Speaker 1: or not tell you, do you have a motive for
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  Speaker 1: not saying, Well, there's really only one motive she would
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  Speaker 1: have to tell anyone. This is not a custody case
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  Speaker 1: any longer. This is simply where are the children? And
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  Speaker 1: the only reason she would have to hide that information
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  Speaker 1: is if something something bad happened to these children at
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  Speaker 1: her hands. And that's the really only motivation she would
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  Speaker 1: have to hide this information. There's no other motivation that
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  Speaker 1: she might have to be hiding the whereabouts with these children.
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  Speaker 1: No one, no one's asking to take these children away
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  Speaker 1: from her, no one's accusing her of abuse of these
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  Speaker 1: children yet, So there's there's not nothing outstanding right now
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  Speaker 1: that would prevent her from telling the police or even
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  Speaker 1: motivate her to prevent telling the police where these children are.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the huge concern of this case. Crime Stories
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  Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace. Along with the investigation into Laurie's missing kids,
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  Speaker 1: police are also looking into the deaths so the couple's
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  Speaker 1: former spouses, Chad's previous wife, Timmy died in rex Work
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  Speaker 1: back in October. Fremont County Sheriff Lynn Humphrey says that
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  Speaker 1: death is now considered suspicious. The more we looked into it,
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  Speaker 1: the more it became apparent that we needed to take
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  Speaker 1: a second look and look a little closer, and so
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  Speaker 1: that was the reason for obtaining the court order to
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  Speaker 1: exhume the body and have an autopsy performed. Police also
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  Speaker 1: say Laurie's brother, Alex Cox, shot and killed Laurie's former
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  Speaker 1: husband in Arizona in July. Cox died shortly after. Police
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  Speaker 1: are still investigating those deaths. When her brother shot and
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  Speaker 1: killed her ex husband, there were several people present. To
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  Speaker 1: my knowledge, those people are all missing or dead, and
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  Speaker 1: the two children being two of those who are missing.
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  Speaker 1: Our friends joining us from KATVB seven in Boise. That
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  Speaker 1: was Gretchen Parsons speaking. Where are Tyley and jj We
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  Speaker 1: know that Kawhi police served Mommy Laurie Vallo and her
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  Speaker 1: new husband, Chad Daybille with search warrants relating to the
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  Speaker 1: missing children on Sunday. They've got till tomorrow morning to
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  Speaker 1: show up with the children in Idaho. They've been on
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  Speaker 1: the run two months after abandoning their home in Idaho
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  Speaker 1: when police came to find the children. No arrestaurants yet.
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  Speaker 1: If they won't come back home, then there'll have to
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  Speaker 1: be an extradition process. I Nancy Grace, this is crime
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  Speaker 1: Stories straight out to doctor Bethany Marshall, psycho analyst to
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  Speaker 1: the stars in Beverly Hills. You can find her doctor
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  Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall dot com Doctor Bethany Marshall. Just I have
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  Speaker 1: to start with two things. One could she be hiding
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  Speaker 1: the children? Two? What about this doomsday cult? I mean
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  Speaker 1: the new husband, Chad day Bill. He's had time to
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  Speaker 1: write twenty five books on the end of time, the
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  Speaker 1: end of the world. What about what's happening right now?
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  Speaker 1: You know, Dancy, you're so correct. When you have time
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  Speaker 1: to write twenty five books on the end of time,
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  Speaker 1: you are pretty obsessed with your religion, I mean, in
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  Speaker 1: some obsessive, crazed state. And you asked about how Laurie
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  Speaker 1: had all that money to stay at the resort. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know when these two have time to work. When
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  Speaker 1: do they have time to earn money and to have
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  Speaker 1: a productive life. It would seem to be a motivation
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  Speaker 1: for killing your spouses for a life insurance policy, just
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  Speaker 1: so you could support having so much free time to
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  Speaker 1: indulge being active in this cult. But more serious note,
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  Speaker 1: when a child goes missing and you do a forensic
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  Speaker 1: interview of the parents, one of the things you look
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  Speaker 1: for is whether or not the parent is attached to
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  Speaker 1: the child or to the children, and whether or not
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  Speaker 1: the mother has basic empathy towards the child. Right, so
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  Speaker 1: we don't see her crying, asking for the child's safe return,
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  Speaker 1: presenting theories about where the children might be, looking upset
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  Speaker 1: or distress. Instead, she glares at the reporter, So that
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  Speaker 1: shows no empathy towards the people who are trying to
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  Speaker 1: find her children, and no empathy towards the children who
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  Speaker 1: are missing. And to my mind, Nancy, that speaks to
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  Speaker 1: the fact that they might be dead, because that means
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  Speaker 1: the mother is simply not attached to her children, and
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  Speaker 1: to secrete them away in some doomsday bunker would mean
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  Speaker 1: that she would have to care about them, and this
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  Speaker 1: mother does not seem to be caring to Jason Oceans,
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  Speaker 1: renowned defense attorney joining me out of New York. But
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  Speaker 1: he Priday is all over the country, Jason Oceans, they
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  Speaker 1: are looking at so many infractions. But the issue is
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  Speaker 1: that they don't show up the court tomorrow morning. What
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  Speaker 1: can we extradite them with? Its simply you know, basically
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  Speaker 1: contempt of court. Now that's exactly it at the moment,
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  Speaker 1: until you know, other charges might be filed. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: just like in the beginning of a civil case and
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  Speaker 1: a criminal you know, this would be the beginning. You
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  Speaker 1: know that aspect of contempt and violating it is going
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  Speaker 1: to be you know, the impetus you know for the
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  Speaker 1: judge and you know, to get why you to cover
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  Speaker 1: that and arrest them and then work on an extradition.
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  Speaker 1: So it becomes complicated. Uh. And you know when you
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  Speaker 1: when you were heard of him as newly wet, it
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  Speaker 1: seems that everything with them is newly dead. Whatever they touch,
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  Speaker 1: whatever it is, uh, turns into death. Okay, I didn't know.
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  Speaker 1: I actually thought you were above puns. But okay, go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: You know that's that's how it seems. Uh, there's nothing.
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  Speaker 1: It all seems normal. And then as doctor Bethany said, her, look,
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  Speaker 1: the mother's look is it's disassociated. I mean she's completely separated,
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  Speaker 1: just everything, uh, with no feeling whatsoever. And you did
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  Speaker 1: mention that glaring. I mean, even if you're trying to
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  Speaker 1: cover it, you don't do that. You're you're trying to feign.
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  Speaker 1: Uh you're great caring and let and help, and you
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  Speaker 1: know you're trying to throw it off here. There's just
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  Speaker 1: no element of that whatsoever. It's just gone. And uh,
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  Speaker 1: I do too, like everyone else, fear for them. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we got to have more charges than just to failure
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  Speaker 1: to show at court. You're not going to get an
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  Speaker 1: extradition from Hawaii on that. It has to be something
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  Speaker 1: more like a felony kidnap production of children that would work.
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  Speaker 1: Karen Smith with me La, California forensics expert, lecturer University
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  Speaker 1: Florida and host of Shattered Souls podcast. Karen, where do
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  Speaker 1: we start? Yeah? I need a mind map for this
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  Speaker 1: entire case. Nancy. I do not envy the police departments
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  Speaker 1: working on this at all. First of all, the missing
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  Speaker 1: children are paramount. That's what everybody wants to know. Where
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  Speaker 1: are Tyley and JJ. On top of that, we've got
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  Speaker 1: four bodies. They have exhumed the body of Tammy Day Bell.
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  Speaker 1: Now she was the wife of Chad who died under
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  Speaker 1: mysterious circumstances. At the age of forty nine in bed
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  Speaker 1: one night, and as the reporter said, she was training
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  Speaker 1: for a race. She was healthy. Now, when they exhume
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  Speaker 1: her body, that is going to be very difficult. They've
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  Speaker 1: used formaldehyde, they flushed all of the the blood, the urine,
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  Speaker 1: the other biological fluids that would be normally be taken
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  Speaker 1: at an autopsy, and now they're going to have to
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  Speaker 1: deal with tissue samples like lung, kidney, brain, liver, and
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  Speaker 1: they're going to have to do my croscopy on those samples,
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  Speaker 1: and they're going to have to test for what they
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  Speaker 1: don't even know what they're testing for. Heavy metals, pesticides, opiates, amphetamines, cocaine.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody even knows what they're testing for. So for toxicologists
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  Speaker 1: this is going to be extraordinarily challenging. Now, former studies
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  Speaker 1: have used fixed tissues with formaldehyde and they have quantitatid
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  Speaker 1: some illicit substances, so it's possible, difficult, but possible. Now,
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  Speaker 1: if they find out that Tammy Davel did not die
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  Speaker 1: of natural causes, that's going to spend the investigation into
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: something like maybe murder. But then they have to go
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  Speaker 1: and find out if they are they going to charge Chad.
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  Speaker 1: Are they going to charge you know the new wife
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  Speaker 1: who who gets charged with that? What happened? So there's
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  Speaker 1: this microcosm of death on top of these missing two children.
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  Speaker 1: So the entire investigation is now going to be spent
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  Speaker 1: on its head once they get the results not only
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  Speaker 1: from Tammy day Bell, but they're also looking at Alex
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  Speaker 1: Cox's death. Now. I don't believe he was embalmed. I
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  Speaker 1: believe that was a normal autopsy, So they should be
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  Speaker 1: able to get some more information about how he died. Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: this is just a spider web of epic proportions in
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  Speaker 1: every way. Here's one place we could start. Here's one
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  Speaker 1: place we could start to Bobby che Cone, former FBI
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  Speaker 1: star Facebook watch series Close Stuff Acacorn, Bobby, if they
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  Speaker 1: are spinning and I'm just learning this from Nate Eton
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  Speaker 1: all day into the evening and a resort down the
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  Speaker 1: street from their gated community, I go right there. Where
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  Speaker 1: have they been holed up? Have they been using phones?
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  Speaker 1: Is there a stash there of cell phones? Other data? Also?
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  Speaker 1: Did they win a room there? I mean, you couldn't
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  Speaker 1: just sit by the pool in ten hours a day,
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  Speaker 1: every single day that you've been in Hawaii. They're doing
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  Speaker 1: something outside the home, and wherever that nest is, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna find evidence. Don't end the searches at the condo.
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  Speaker 1: Find out where they've been all day long. Also, if
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  Speaker 1: there's any way to truck where that car has been,
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  Speaker 1: follow the money trail. If the children are alive. Jackie
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  Speaker 1: Harward just said this here in the studio. She's no detective,
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  Speaker 1: but obviously she's right. If the children are alive, they've
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  Speaker 1: got to be supported somehow. Are they sending money somewhere?
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  Speaker 1: Are there email communications about her children? Are Is there
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  Speaker 1: a status of cell phones, burner phones, a laptop, an
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  Speaker 1: iPad that's being used elsewhere like at that resort, Bobby,
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  Speaker 1: what about it? Yeah, I think you're exactly right, Nancy.
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  Speaker 1: I think in fact, they are probably trying to re
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  Speaker 1: establish their electronic flipprint. I'm sure you're right also that
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  Speaker 1: they probably have been using burner phones and things that
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  Speaker 1: are probably very difficult to trace. So there, I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: the authorities are doing that in Hawaii now, trying to
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  Speaker 1: recreate their lives the last days and weeks and even
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  Speaker 1: months now of where they've been, who they've been in contact,
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  Speaker 1: with Unfortunately, the said truth might be if some harm
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  Speaker 1: did come to these children and they haven't been seen
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  Speaker 1: since in September, that they have any of their activity
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  Speaker 1: now could not may not be related. I'm sure the
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  Speaker 1: authorities will track that down, but we may not have
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  Speaker 1: any information related to the children in their most recent
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  Speaker 1: activities in their lives, because if in fact, they harm
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  Speaker 1: those children back in September, you've got to look at
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  Speaker 1: that time frame to find where the children are, if
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  Speaker 1: they've moved on, these people are you know, there's some
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  Speaker 1: obviously mental instability in some of these people, and they
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  Speaker 1: if they harm those children back in September, they may
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  Speaker 1: have moved on from those children in their lives. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: obviously they move on from other people in their lives.
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  Speaker 1: Their end of days predictions come true. Anybody that comes
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  Speaker 1: into contact with them, their days seem to add with
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  Speaker 1: whether it's her former husband, his former wife, her brother, whoever,
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  Speaker 1: it is their day's end. And so, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: would look at their recent activity, but I you know,
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  Speaker 1: something tells me that if those children, if those children
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  Speaker 1: were horned back in September, I think these two quite
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  Speaker 1: possibly moved on. And so a lot of pivity now
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  Speaker 1: may not indicate where those children are. Well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'll just say it out loud. I'll pray it out loud. Lord,
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  Speaker 1: wherever they are, place, help us find Tylie, Ryan and
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  Speaker 1: Joshua jj Valo Tip line two zero eight three five nine,
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  Speaker 1: three thousand. We wait as justice. Son follows Nancy Grace
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  Speaker 1: Crime's story sunning off, Goodbye friend,