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- 0:00OK, good morning. We are continuing.
- 0:02We're starting Hiljos MI Kavalas Simon Raish Aleph and DNA
- 0:08Hamikva Umaimov. We're just going to start right
- 0:11away with CIF Aleph and the Shokanar will suffice as his own
- 0:17intro to Hiljos MI kvos. Here we go in Haisha Ola Mitu
- 0:21Mata Berezza Bamerhas. Right?
- 0:24We all know this. A woman can't go into a bath and
- 0:28be kosher tahara from her tuma filu alu alaya.
- 0:32Call me Mocha Balam, even if you have all the water in the world
- 0:36poured on you. Adaigni petuma TA quandala.
- 0:40She's still in 100% petuma. And if she goes with the man
- 0:44vekhayevim alea karate and she's hayev karis, right?
- 0:47If she's a Nida or zava aja titbol ko gufa bevatahat the
- 0:53Allah is clear. Anyone who needs to go to the
- 0:55mikvah must go in their entire body, their all, their body and
- 1:00all their hair all together all at once.
- 1:02OK, that's a dintara, very simple beme mikva, but in a must
- 1:09be in a mikva O or an O or an AO Mayan, a spring of water, Shyesh
- 1:17Baham or Bahim seal, and it must be 40 seal.
- 1:22Is that a waterfall? A waterfall counts.
- 1:25It's a kosher Mikva if it's a Mayan, if it's from rainwater,
- 1:30we're going to get to it's a problem of zocalin.
- 1:32But if it's Mayan is if it's a spring water.
- 1:36Now we all know all water starts the whole circular, right?
- 1:40It's we have water underground and we have water in the shamine
- 1:44and it just right. It just recirculates,
- 1:46circulates, whatever it's called.
- 1:48The water starts out when it's the fresh, when it rains.
- 1:51That rainwater we're going to see the difference has a status
- 1:55of rainwater, and it's only kosher if it's in a still bore.
- 2:00But that water gets Niva. It gets absorbed into the
- 2:04ground, and then when it comes, it comes out of the ground also.
- 2:08It turns that water, that same rainwater, believe it or not, it
- 2:11turns into the spring water. And that spring water is now a
- 2:15Mayan. So it's that same water, same
- 2:17H2O, but has two different statuses based on where it comes
- 2:21from to our naked eye, right? Or to whatever.
- 2:25Sheesh. Bahen Arbeam saah has to have
- 2:27arbeam saah. And if it's missing a mash,
- 2:30kosher. Who of the 40s saah, right?
- 2:32That's the 40s, that was Sahalakala Moshe Mussini,
- 2:35basically. We're going to get to that, but
- 2:37it's OK, It must be 40s saah. Now the truth is, I think we're
- 2:42going to say it, but Mina Torah, if it's a Mayan, A kosher who is
- 2:47enough, neither a bannon for a human, it needs to be 40 SE a
- 2:53even a Mayan mider Aisa kolshu's enough again, this good to
- 2:57review all this and he'll close me close.
- 2:59It's just one more second. But anyways, let's go on.
- 3:03But that's but la maisa. For us, it means 40 SE a
- 3:08vishituram amma. But if it's a Mayan for kalim,
- 3:12kolshu is enough. We'll see that opposed can point
- 3:15out vishi uram AMA al AMA room shalosh almat vimaru BA.
- 3:23I'll keep reading. Now, Khazal say, what is the
- 3:27shir Allahu almashimi? Sinai is 1 by 1 by 3 amas.
- 3:31OK, all right, It's it's a volume.
- 3:35Now, what kind of an AMA? Normally we're used to using an
- 3:38AMA which is 6 * 4 fingers. That's both but AMA.
- 3:43But Shisha Tsvahim Vekhetzi atspah.
- 3:46But there's two kinds of an AMA one's sokha coat, smiley ones
- 3:51and the odds odds to vote the more sad ones, which means are
- 3:55your fingers spread apart? Like when you smile, you're more
- 3:59extend your your lips more. So anyways, do you right.
- 4:04So is there a little bit of a airspace a tiny bit between each
- 4:07finger or not? And so that'll make the
- 4:09difference if in every right and there's six fuck him in an AMA
- 4:14and in each tafaq you have 4 etzpah oats, but it's either 4
- 4:17right near, you know, smushed together or with a little bit of
- 4:20revach. So normally when you go with
- 4:22four exactly, but here it's four points.
- 4:27As he says, shisha tsfahim vahetzi etzpah.
- 4:31For every AMA or shisha tsfahim, you get an extra half of an
- 4:36etzmo, which according to our Khaimna is a centimeter.
- 4:40The IM Hu Rahab yutair, the Eno gavoa coca kashir.
- 4:46Now it's all based on volume. So it doesn't have to be 3 high,
- 4:493 almost high. Your mikvah could be one AMA
- 4:51high, but then it needs to be 3 wide, right?
- 4:54It just has to be the volume. So it could be in any, any shape
- 4:58kashir, provided that a person can get their entire body in
- 5:06there. Now 1 by 1 by 3 is really
- 5:08considered the minimum. That's where the sheer comes
- 5:11from, has considered the minimum size a person can fit into.
- 5:15But practically speaking, it's a little bit difficult because you
- 5:18have to like fit exactly. But anyways, that's the sheer
- 5:22with sarik, Shialevitish, Borat, mehndalid elif, the kuf yerhat
- 5:27ET spa OTT, the godal gudal, the OT hetzi etzpa.
- 5:32So the Sholkhanar does the calculation for us, right?
- 5:36It's what was it 4 * 20 * 6, but it's but it's 24.5 because it's
- 5:46an extra and you do that 24 * 24 that's the one by 1 + 3 * 24
- 5:54which is like 70 something. And so you do that all together,
- 5:58you end up with exactly his #44,118 and as our Gershon
- 6:03pointed out is 375. But he rounds off to 1/2 and
- 6:07that's, that's the then you so you need to have cubic X about
- 6:13how many 44,118 1/2. Now if you turn that into
- 6:19centimeters or liters, you have to times it by 8 because it's
- 6:252cm and it's cubed. So 2 * 2 * 2 is going to be 8.
- 6:29So 8 * 84 A 44,000 comes out to 300, about 353 liters and or
- 6:38about 93 gallons. So if you look it up, most will
- 6:42say no, the mikvah, the minimum size of the mikvah ranges from
- 6:48353 to 750 liters or 93 to 200 gallons based on or the
- 6:55Khazanish. OK, so obviously we always try
- 6:58and have the bigger sheer, no questions, but OK, it depends
- 7:02what's available with Sarik, Shia Karitz, Shabo Hamayim,
- 7:07Gaddol, Yoter Mishiuraze. Obviously, he says the your
- 7:12bore, your pit, your pool, whatever it is, should be bigger
- 7:15than that sheer so that you have enough for that water to be in
- 7:20the Kadeshi Kanessa Toba because you need to be able to go in
- 7:26there and you still have that water, right.
- 7:28If you were to have a pit that's exactly that shear and it's
- 7:30filled up with water, as soon as you go in there, well, half the
- 7:33water's going to fall right out or most of the water's going to
- 7:36come right out. And then when you then when you
- 7:38look around, there's no water left.
- 7:40So OK, so it needs to be bigger than that, obviously.
- 7:42OK, let's get to that. Name my gun matarium Afbe
- 7:48Zukhalim. No, the spring water, it's an
- 7:52attire even by zohalin. Even if it's in a stream, it's
- 7:56moving water as if it's flowing water.
- 7:58Parish Zohalin in Shakin the Hokin the Anna Mehluna SIM
- 8:02right? It's moving and it's not
- 8:04gathered in one still place. So that's what Zochlin, where we
- 8:08see the word Zochlin refers to that.
- 8:10And so therefore you can, if you have a source of water, a
- 8:15spring. So then it's OK if it's moving,
- 8:18it's OK if it's a waterfall and it's, and then as long as you're
- 8:22completely immersed in it at one time, then you're, it's kosher.
- 8:26Technically a waterfall's going to be hard to get your whole
- 8:28body in there, but it's technically, but it is, it is
- 8:31possible, as we'll see even by a way we say it's possible.
- 8:36I don't know if it's just theoretical or really, but
- 8:38anyways, Omega, how practical, Omega Shamim ayn matarin ella
- 8:42bhash borin. Now rain water right when, if
- 8:46you're cut right once it hits the rain or turns into snow and
- 8:49lands on the mountains and then melts and then comes down.
- 8:51So this is called megashamim. We'll get to snow later.
- 8:55It helps us with my shooving. But here we're talking about
- 8:58megashamim. It's, it's only way it's kosher
- 9:02to be matar as a mikvah is if it's still can't be a moving
- 9:05body of water has to be completely still.
- 9:08Well, then we're going to get into a little more details of
- 9:10that, but basically you have to be able to look at it and you
- 9:13can't see any movements at what point, how much is allowed?
- 9:18It's a discussion. I'm not sure if we'll get into
- 9:20there or not. If it's completely insignificant
- 9:22and you cannot recognize it. So then at some point it's not a
- 9:26problem. For example, you can have a
- 9:29mikvah in the ground, right? You dig out, you dig out the
- 9:33dirt and you turn it into a mikvah.
- 9:35It's true. You leave it there over a number
- 9:37of days, besides the evaporation factor, some of it will slowly,
- 9:42slowly sleep, seep into the ground.
- 9:44That's not a problem. That's a postgame they were
- 9:47showing him say is not an issue, but more than that is when it
- 9:50becomes a real problem. And so a question.
- 9:55But anyways, bottom line has to be completely still.
- 9:58So if you go to a river, so then it's important to know if the
- 10:02river is spring water or rainwater because the river is
- 10:06flowing. So if you want to use that for
- 10:07rainwater, we're going to get to Yamima.
- 10:09Hopefully we will get there inside and we'll discuss that
- 10:12soon. The lotion of ash boring will
- 10:14perish. Maqam Almok should be the
- 10:16khanskin Bo hamai vanicra ash boring.
- 10:19So that's just an expression. You have to know that word.
- 10:21Where does that word come from? In that word is the word bor,
- 10:24but I didn't see anyone talk about that.
- 10:26But I did see they say is it's Milashon Shvira.
- 10:29It has the shin over there. Shvira get cracks in the ground
- 10:33and then the water flows through the cracks and they meet up and
- 10:35they end up in some kind of a into the carca mikva mine where
- 10:39it gathers. So that's where the expression,
- 10:41the word ashbouran comes from. Haggah ABBA Ayede Zahila
- 10:46absuliminatara. Now this is absul dereissa.
- 10:48It's not not Derebana about rainwater.
- 10:52If it's moving, that must be completely still.
- 10:55I am Haim Lahood below Mayan unless it's mixed with a Mayan.
- 10:58We're going to get into that later.
- 11:00Here we are. If the zokling that means spring
- 11:07water mixes up with note theme. Note theme by definition just
- 11:10means rainwater. Hireya, Kobe, Mayan, the Kodova.
- 11:15So then it all becomes like a Mayan because there's there's
- 11:19more Zokhalin, more Mei Mayan than megashamin.
- 11:24So that's 100% no problem. It needs to be Rove.
- 11:31So the discussion about that and it may be an more of an issue
- 11:36there abandoned, but as long as it's Rove, it's a problem it has
- 11:39then it cannot we we're going to get into that.
- 11:43Shaka helps you and it makes a keyboard.
- 11:47I'll just say it right now, miss, I'm not sure if it's
- 11:49she'll get there. And since you mentioned it,
- 11:51we're going to get into a concept of Schwferet hanode,
- 11:54Chaufeeret Hanode as we had this before.
- 11:57It's an opening, right? What does it literally mean?
- 12:00It's a node. It's a leather canteen they used
- 12:02to have, right? They didn't have plastic
- 12:03canteens and it was a leather canteen.
- 12:05And how do they fill it up? We might use a funnel.
- 12:08They had a tube. You put in a Schwferet, a tube.
- 12:11The standard tube in those days is the amount to turn your two
- 12:17fingers, your pointer and your middle finger and you rotate it.
- 12:23So it has to have a little bit of give, can't be too tight.
- 12:25And that's the shear. So generally speaking, the
- 12:28minimum shear in the post scheme was is probably about four
- 12:32centimeters. I mean that is what it is
- 12:34approximately. But Lamais said we usually to
- 12:38be. I'd say we use the minimum
- 12:41according to be to be, I'd say cola Deos.
- 12:44It's very important. And what most fingers are
- 12:47nowadays is it must be 5 centimeters.
- 12:51That's what that's what if you go to any mikvah, they're going
- 12:53to be between 5, usually between 5:00 and 6:00 of Davidovich
- 12:57usually likes to make it closer to 6, but it's always 5 minimum.
- 13:01Sometimes he says he likes to do 7.
- 13:03But you can't always choose the size because you go to a
- 13:05hardware store and buy the pipes that exist.
- 13:07So you have to work what's what's what's there.
- 13:10OK, So anyways, minimum in a in a mix, what you're going to see
- 13:14is five Emir of Gilman hopefully point out to you why there's a
- 13:17couple holes in the wall, not just one.
- 13:20We'll see. That's we're not that's related.
- 13:23I'm just, I'm just OK, so where are we?
- 13:32I'll refer to a note. Refer to a note.
- 13:34When you have that opening, it makes it where when you have
- 13:38between 2:00 bodies of water, that opening, if it's filled
- 13:42with water, it makes a connection and it makes a
- 13:44complete keyboard. You can have a half a mikvah and
- 13:47a half a mikvah, like 20 and 20 and it's connected.
- 13:51Then it now you have a kosher mikvah.
- 13:53You just have to physically be able to fit in there, like you
- 13:55can put a dish in there, but so that works if there are times
- 14:00we're not going to get into it, but there are times when it
- 14:02could even be kosher. If it's 100% kosher, Mikvah,
- 14:06minatara, A-40 SA, sometimes you can have a khuta Sara that's a
- 14:11mishnah, just a connection of just a mashu, and that'll make
- 14:15it so it's kosher. If it's absolute means they're
- 14:18abundant, but whatever for all practice practical purposes in
- 14:22most situations, the sheer for connecting is always going to be
- 14:25shful. Ferrets Hanode.
- 14:27So OK, Harry, what was that right fine.
- 14:35The thing in Rabu may be Shabbimo Maya, not here, but now
- 14:38what if the the rain water is more than then in the river,
- 14:42then the springs enum mitharium mizocaline so it can no longer
- 14:46help you for zocaline. Again, the right says it's
- 14:50Mahlok because we've shown you how to deal with it.
- 14:52But and it might be kosher, but it's still but it needs to be
- 14:57the ashborn when it goes after rouve.
- 15:00At least that's for the halacha of if it's has to be Boshborn or
- 15:03if it could still be flowing Lithika sarit la haqif mapat
- 15:08perushka in Mahedzalit. So let's say you go to a river,
- 15:18right? You go to a river and you're
- 15:20you're afraid or you know that most of the water comes from
- 15:24rainwater, right? So then you have a problem.
- 15:26What do you do? So the based on the Rambam, I'll
- 15:30just quick reminder, I'll point it out.
- 15:31It's based on the Gemara of the Shabbos.
- 15:33Some like, hey, about Abu Adeshmua with the moppots.
- 15:36So we had a three times the moppots.
- 15:38So again, it's a whole Maklokas Rishonian.
- 15:40What is the moppots talking about?
- 15:42And it's not according to all opinions, but the Shokanak
- 15:46brings all three. You have a moppots to step on so
- 15:48you don't get muddy, right? We learned that by Khatsitza.
- 15:51You had a moppots for Tsidius and she's going to dip in the
- 15:54mikvah and she's by the the port and all the guys are watching.
- 15:57So you have to make a mahita. Here's another perush which the
- 16:00Shokanak brings Alaka is if you're in a river and it's
- 16:05flowing. So what do you do?
- 16:08You you know, obviously it depends on the situation, but
- 16:12it's if the current isn't too strong, then maybe it juts out a
- 16:15little bit. You take a mop pot, take a take
- 16:18a wall, take, I don't know, take you know, can be use gavis
- 16:22walls. You can take a mop pots and you
- 16:24put it up around you and that'll stop the flow around you and
- 16:29it'll turn the water inside where you are into a Anashboran
- 16:34where the water is still. So that's what he's telling you
- 16:36to do. You're going to ask me how's it
- 16:38possible? So I'll just point out because
- 16:40we learned you can't see any moving water.
- 16:43So we hold you can't see any moving water.
- 16:45But it's a more like that. We've shown him how much water
- 16:48can it be a little bit moving from the side through a crack.
- 16:52And also the grub points out he must be talking about the season
- 16:58where it's, I mean, the Gamar talks about there's two seasons.
- 17:00I won't get in into all the details, but the grot just
- 17:02points out it's talking about a case where the flow of the river
- 17:07is very minor because if it's a strong current, you put up a
- 17:10moppots, the water's going to run right through you.
- 17:13It's talking about a case where there's a very low current and
- 17:17therefore if you put up a moppots on the side, you put up
- 17:19some kind of a barrier. It'll it can make the water
- 17:22where you're standing not move and then then we're good.
- 17:26OK, again, not everyone holds of this, but it's OK, it's here.
- 17:31And so one should teach to be Mahmir that any time you're in a
- 17:35river that has water for Megashamim, you don't you don't
- 17:40use it unless you put this up about Yeshmatiri and some say,
- 17:44wait a second, it's mutter, it's Bulba naharat kola Shana
- 17:49Akashamim. Let's say during the year, this
- 17:53river flows all year long. But now, you know, it's right
- 17:57after the rainy season and there's a much stronger current
- 17:59and you see the level of the river is higher.
- 18:02So you know right now that there's so much more water here
- 18:05because of the rainwater, even more rainwater than the natural
- 18:09spring water, like there is some spring, but it's a mixture.
- 18:14So what do you do even though now it's the even though there's
- 18:25more rainwater than right, the more than spring water, even if
- 18:30you know there's more, it's still mutter, right?
- 18:33That's that's the make of the opinion.
- 18:34He says you shouldn't rely on it, but you could.
- 18:36I mean, there's what to be so much on Mishom, the Ikar Guido
- 18:41Hanar hoob in Macoro because the main water comes from under the
- 18:46ground. In other words, if there's more
- 18:49rainwater, there's also we're going to be more spring water
- 18:53because spring water comes from the rain.
- 18:57So even though but you you you think it's all because of
- 19:00rainwater, We're assuming that a lot of the rainwater turns into
- 19:05spring water because it goes gets absorbed into the mountain
- 19:07and the springs are also getting stronger.
- 19:10So that's the OK, the EN limchote biada noagi mahakil.
- 19:15So one should not be against, one should not speak up against
- 19:20those who are meikiel keishla hamashi samokhu Miu yeeshli
- 19:23zaravinzuo banara haminta Vela gamre al ya dehagshami.
- 19:27But if you have a river that's dried up and now you know, so
- 19:32you see, there's that that shows you there's really no spring
- 19:34water. The only reason why you have
- 19:36water now is because of the rain.
- 19:37So then that's a real problem. That's going to be puzzle for
- 19:40sure. We'll call it the Postech
- 19:44Legamre. But if the water isn't
- 19:45completely and there's always some water there, Alpha Peschar,
- 19:48Nara, Shofi Latocha, even though there are other rivers that are
- 19:51going into there, We shot the Geschamim, Amitava yada and
- 19:55becomes more water, Niko Malcolm Hoyolu, Postech Legamre.
- 20:00But if it does stop completely, so then it's us Elito Bodera.
- 20:05And it's us there to use it while it's a flow because rain
- 20:09water cannot be kosher mikvah if it's flowing.
- 20:12Aachi yiku amayim shibetoku until all comes together of
- 20:16albinar enchi Eno posik alpha bishebi shabi mitracha.
- 20:21Even though it gets bigger. Mutter as we said before.
- 20:24Elite bobo Nicole Malcolm lafiz savartha make helium lafi mashen
- 20:28nagu. OK, you can.
- 20:31Yeah, Yeah. If you're the Michael opinion,
- 20:35OK, I want to just do a couple more Gilmo arba in Sasha
- 20:38Amritsar, actually a shuvim. Now this is a big topic.
- 20:42Mime Shuvim water that you picked up for with a cleat.
- 20:46Again, we're not going to all the filters and all these other
- 20:49things. It's a whole discussion.
- 20:51We're Mahomer, generally speaking, for all these things.
- 20:53But just plain pipes, that's not a problem.
- 20:56Plain pipes that aren't where there's no containers and no
- 20:59filters. That's not a problem.
- 21:02Like if you get a pipe from the roof that brings the water
- 21:05straight into the mikva, that's not going to be a problem of
- 21:08Mayim Shuvi. Mayim Shuvi means you picked it
- 21:11up with a clean OK and now so water can't be Mayim Shuvi Shuvi
- 21:18then it's sewing now Rama mostly showing him say that's only
- 21:22absul me Deraba none. So that's so that you don't come
- 21:26to go into a mikva inside a bathtub.
- 21:29The but the the being the Tom and and the Rama paskins, the
- 21:34Iim call mikva he shuva impossible Minotaur.
- 21:36But if the entire mikva is Mayim shuvaim, so he holds that's a
- 21:41Pasol minotaura who's sphaker la kumra and therefore safik goes
- 21:46la kumra of all in rova mikva kasha.
- 21:48But if most of it is maybe Shamim or any mikva, that's not
- 21:53Shuvi. That's what the topic here.
- 21:56So then we have mil to Shuvi, but just a minority.
- 21:59Eno ella midora banana loose feco la cula make vasuhu Shu goy
- 22:04O macabo menus sakhar en la Mina lagoy Allah Allah to jump to.
- 22:09Hey. And then we'll read it inside
- 22:11tomorrow. You'll see you with Rob Gilman.
- 22:13I just wanted to say I'm just going to read one line and he'll
- 22:15go. He'll say the whole thing later.
- 22:17Kola yami Meisha Hamdin Mayan latar Bizzahila, because this is
- 22:20really tied to what we said until now is all bodies of
- 22:24water, all lakes and all oceans are kosher.
- 22:27How do we know? The Mishnah tells us in Paraquet
- 22:30Mccullos it's rabiosi and it's basically exerus akasu.
- 22:35Perhaps you want to call Akhala Moshe Musini, but basically it's
- 22:37a exerus akasu from Mikve Amayam Karayamim, right in the
- 22:41beginning, herbaceous. So from there we know all bodies
- 22:45of what? If you want to go to the
- 22:46quineret, if you want to go anywhere to the mikvah, that's a
- 22:49body of water. Yamamella.
- 22:50No, we'll take it as a salt. Sorry, but any normal body of
- 22:55water, we'll take a yamamella. Any normal body of water is a
- 22:58kosher mikvah. The oceans, the quineret,
- 23:01anything. Even if you think most of the
- 23:04water might come from the rain, it doesn't matter.
- 23:07Even though the water moves, it doesn't matter.
- 23:09That's the halacha because of the puzzle and what's it called?
- 23:143 basic perdution you'll find in the in the that point out why?
- 23:18Because all the because it's normal for the flowing lake, the
- 23:21rivers to all go into the ocean and therefore that's what's
- 23:25that's what's normal. That's the zocalim.
- 23:27They all feed into the Yamim. And so therefore it's more of an
- 23:31explanation. But that's why the, the any yam
- 23:34has a special status of being kosher for the purposes of
- 23:39Zocalim, even if it's moving kosher, who maybe not we'll
- 23:44discuss tomorrow. But the other perush is because
- 23:49it's normal Yamim. They all have all Yamim have
- 23:52currents and waves or whatever. There's always movement just
- 23:56like a river. Just like that's why a river is
- 23:59is always kosher when it flows. So too all the Yamim are always
- 24:01kosher because there's always flowing.
- 24:04And the last perush is because there's an assumption that most
- 24:09of the water in an in any ocean or lake, the Kazaka is it comes
- 24:14from springs. You may not know where the
- 24:15springs are, you may not realize it's from a spring, but the
- 24:19majority is actually spring water that comes into the ocean
- 24:23versus rainwater.