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The Seven Money Wounds Series-Control –The Dangerous Side of Control and Your Money · Rock My Finances

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  Speaker 3: about the zeros. So what is it all about? Let's
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  Speaker 3: find out. Now Here's your host and weekly friend, Jennifer Jose.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, y'all, welcome back. I just love that rock and
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  Speaker 2: roll song just saying and I know that might just
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  Speaker 2: be me, but I love it because it gets me going.
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  Speaker 2: I love this. I love to talk about money and
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  Speaker 2: emotions and making money and having wealth and abundance and joy.
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  Speaker 2: So here we are today. Something that might be holding
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  Speaker 2: this all back from this And I don't know about too,
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  Speaker 2: but I can totally relate self declared control freak out
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  Speaker 2: there about self declared control freak in recovery, Yeah, that
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  Speaker 2: would be me totally for years and years and years
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  Speaker 2: when I started setting boundaries and all that great stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So today we're going to talk about this one of
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  Speaker 2: the seven wounds, the money wounds that could be holding
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  Speaker 2: us back from all of our abundance and wealth and joy.
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  Speaker 2: Today we're talking about control. And I want to start
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  Speaker 2: with the question do you like to be in control?
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  Speaker 2: And what does that really mean? Of course, I love
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  Speaker 2: to be in control. I love it. It makes me
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  Speaker 2: makes me feel like my perfectionism is in on target.
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  Speaker 2: It makes me feel like I can actually have safety
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  Speaker 2: in the world, like I absolutely love control. Now, when
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  Speaker 2: our control starts to moving beyond ourselves, that's why we
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  Speaker 2: need to take a look at things. So we want
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  Speaker 2: to know what's happening, and we want to plan right.
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  Speaker 2: I want to know what's happening, what's happened, when, when
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  Speaker 2: bills are due, when bills are paid, when, what accounts are,
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  Speaker 2: where they're at, if the kids are okay, where they're at?
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  Speaker 2: Are we texting their cell phones? Do we know every
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  Speaker 2: all our family members that they're with or their friends
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  Speaker 2: and their friends' parents. Is the house okay? Is everything
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  Speaker 2: around the house okay? Can I control the thermostat even?
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  Speaker 2: Can I control the sprinklers? Everything? Is there enough money
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  Speaker 2: in the bank? Do I have enough money in my retirement? Saving?
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  Speaker 2: All of this sounds reasonable right, which it does, And
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  Speaker 2: what happens is being reasonable turns into needing control on
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  Speaker 2: everything around us to feel safe. And that's when we
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  Speaker 2: want to take a look at it. What happens when
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  Speaker 2: you actually just can't relax until you know exactly what's
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  Speaker 2: going to happen. Have you ever felt that way, like
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what's going to happen, so I can't
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  Speaker 2: do that. Some people don't travel because they don't know
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  Speaker 2: what it's going to be like over there, Like we
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  Speaker 2: just got back from Iceland for my daughter's wedding. My
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  Speaker 2: daughter Journey got married. It was fabulous. Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: We had such a good time. It was a total blast.
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  Speaker 2: It was amazing. We had so many people from coming
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  Speaker 2: from the United States, Iceland. I had never been to Iceland,
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  Speaker 2: so I was a little weary, But it wasn't for
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  Speaker 2: my daughter, Like you know, I'd not be doing that,
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  Speaker 2: like you know, beaches and warm weather. And I cannot
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  Speaker 2: tell you how amazing Iceland was. It was one of
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  Speaker 2: the best times ever. So getting out of our control
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  Speaker 2: really does show us new things, new worlds, new lives,
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  Speaker 2: new emotions, new friendships. It was amazing. But when we're
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  Speaker 2: still in that control factor, we want to know what
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  Speaker 2: exactly is going to happen step by step. So when
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  Speaker 2: we're spending money, does that make you anxious? And does
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  Speaker 2: it make you anxious when you have the money but
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  Speaker 2: you need to make the decision to spend money, Does
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  Speaker 2: that make you anxious when the market downturns? Do you
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  Speaker 2: go into a panic? Do you freak out when you
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  Speaker 2: check your bank accounts consistently every day, always opening up
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  Speaker 2: your app seeing where your money is. When someone else
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  Speaker 2: makes a financial decision differently than you, what you would
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  Speaker 2: make does that drive you crazy? Meaning business, partner, spouse, children,
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  Speaker 2: something that they actually decide something differently than when you
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  Speaker 2: would decide that drive you crazy? Or when you've worked
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  Speaker 2: your entire life to create this amazing financial security and
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  Speaker 2: somehow you still don't feel secure. I get that all
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  Speaker 2: the time. I have people come to me for financial planning.
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  Speaker 2: They literally have a lenty like what they spend right now,
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  Speaker 2: they could double that spending and they still would not
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  Speaker 2: run out of money at one hundred? So why are
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  Speaker 2: they still anxious? Right? Why don't they feel secure? That's
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  Speaker 2: what we're talking about today, because sometimes what looks like
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  Speaker 2: being really good with money is actually a fear. It
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  Speaker 2: actually is wearing on you, and it's very convincing to
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  Speaker 2: look like control, but it's really not. It's actually a
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  Speaker 2: money wound. It actually started way back. When Where does
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  Speaker 2: that come from?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Where does control usually come from? And why do we
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  Speaker 2: want it? And why it just doesn't come out of nowhere?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: So let's think about your own life, where or was
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  Speaker 2: there ever a time when things felt completely out of control?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe was unpredictable when you were growing up, Maybe
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  Speaker 2: your parents thought about money, Maybe there was never enough
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  Speaker 2: you felt like there was never enough. Maybe one parent
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  Speaker 2: controlled all the money and the other one had no
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  Speaker 2: idea what was happening. And maybe even went through a
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  Speaker 2: divorce and suddenly your entire life and your financial world
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  Speaker 2: was completely changed, and you felt like you had no
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  Speaker 2: control at that point. Maybe someone you trusted with money
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  Speaker 2: and it didn't really turn out that way like it
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  Speaker 2: might have been. You might have been betrayed with money.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you lost a job or a business or someone
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  Speaker 2: that you truly loved. Maybe you watched your investments drop drastically,
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  Speaker 2: like I remember two thousand and two, two thousand and eight,
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  Speaker 2: two thousand and ten, like we lost money. Maybe you
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  Speaker 2: experienced something that taught you a very powerful lesson. And
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  Speaker 2: things can change in a total instant, and that's what
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  Speaker 2: we've experienced. When we've experienced that, it's a kind of uncertainty.
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  Speaker 2: Our brain wants to protect us from ever feeling that
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  Speaker 2: vulnerable and feeling that uncertainty again. So our brain is
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  Speaker 2: just trying to take care of us. However, it can
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  Speaker 2: get out of control. So when we make a decision,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes without even realizing it. I will never let that
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  Speaker 2: happen to me again. Have you ever said that I've
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  Speaker 2: said that. Around relationships, I've always said I will never
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  Speaker 2: live like that again, And I canero point five instances
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  Speaker 2: right now that I will never live like that again.
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  Speaker 2: Same thing with money, I will never let that happen
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  Speaker 2: to me again. And control becomes protection, it becomes safety.
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  Speaker 2: So we start telling ourselves, I can control my money,
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  Speaker 2: I'll be okay. If I can control my spending, I'll
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  Speaker 2: be okay. If I can control my partner spending or
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  Speaker 2: my children spending, I'll be okay. If I can control
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  Speaker 2: my investments, my children, my career, my future, I will
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  Speaker 2: be safe. Except there's one little problem. We can't ever
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  Speaker 2: control everything, and trying to become controlling over everything is
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  Speaker 2: absolutely exhausting, absolutely exhausting. So when control looks like responsibility,
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  Speaker 2: this is where control wounds get tricky. Because we do
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  Speaker 2: need to be responsible, We need to be aware of things,
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  Speaker 2: we need to know what's happening. But when the control
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  Speaker 2: is around money, it can be healthy or it can
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  Speaker 2: be tricky. Of course, I want you to know what
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  Speaker 2: you own, what you have, Your money is all that
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  Speaker 2: great stuff. I want you to understand investing. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's why I spend so much time educating my clients
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  Speaker 2: because I really want them to feel secure. I want
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  Speaker 2: you to understand your investment. I want you to understand
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  Speaker 2: all your accounts. You might have like old retirement accounts.
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  Speaker 2: You might have an old growing gay year, or there
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  Speaker 2: are several you might have like all these accounts everyone,
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  Speaker 2: so you might not even know what they are. I
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  Speaker 2: want you to have a spending plan that you create
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  Speaker 2: on your own, and you have your emotional intelligence to
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  Speaker 2: everything that you're spending, and you control what you're spending.
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  Speaker 2: I want you to know what's coming in. I want
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  Speaker 2: you to know what's going out. When I work with
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  Speaker 2: my clients. Yes, I know this might sound talking, but
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  Speaker 2: they know where every dime is going and guess what,
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  Speaker 2: it's their choice, so they are in control of what
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  Speaker 2: is going out. Now. Can I control my paging or
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  Speaker 2: not paging, but my electrical bill now that I'm in
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  Speaker 2: the North Carolina, it's actually just electrical two hundred and
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  Speaker 2: fifty bucks? Can I control that? Well? Yeah, I've had
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  Speaker 2: the air conditioning on twenty four to seven for I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how long. It's so freaking human here right now,
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  Speaker 2: so yeah, I control that. I keep the temperature where
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  Speaker 2: I want it do I want to spend more make
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  Speaker 2: my air conditioning go lower. I control that. So sometimes
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  Speaker 2: we have to own what we control before we can
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  Speaker 2: blame anything else. I want you to know your financial awareness.
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  Speaker 2: The question is what happens emotionally when something doesn't go
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  Speaker 2: according to plan. I'm a friend that always talks about
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  Speaker 2: everything's going to according to plan, like it's like the
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  Speaker 2: best thing when everything's going according to plan. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: we can't say that real loud in a part in
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  Speaker 2: airports is then it sounds like, you know, masterminding something
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  Speaker 2: crazy in the airport. It's a big joke. It's hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: It's hilarious. Okay. This is where we begin to see
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  Speaker 2: the difference between healthy planning and fear driven control. Healthy
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  Speaker 2: planning says I have a plan and if something changes,
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  Speaker 2: I'll adjust it. Control says if something changes, everything could
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  Speaker 2: fall apart. Healthy planning says I understand my investments and
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  Speaker 2: I have a great long term strategy, and I can
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  Speaker 2: pivot at any time. Control says the market is down,
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  Speaker 2: I have to do something. Healthy planning says I could
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  Speaker 2: afford this trip. I've been planning for it. Control says, yes,
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  Speaker 2: I can afford it. But what if I need money someday,
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  Speaker 2: It's just like so daunting right. Control says, I'm sorry. Healthy.
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  Speaker 2: Do you see the difference between what control says and
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  Speaker 2: what healthy planning says. I can totally see the difference.
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  Speaker 2: One comes from confidence. Healthy planning comes from confidence. I
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  Speaker 2: have the money, I'm looking forward to spending it. I've
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  Speaker 2: planned for this. And the other comes from fear. So
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  Speaker 2: when we're working out of control, it's out of fear.
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  Speaker 2: I believe we're either in love or fear at all times.
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  Speaker 2: So if you're coming from love, you're making a decision
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  Speaker 2: out of loving yourself, loving the world, knowing the universe's
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  Speaker 2: got your back. You might even have faith, you might
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  Speaker 2: even know God's got your back. You might even know
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  Speaker 2: that everything was planned for you, whatever your beliefs are.
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  Speaker 2: That's coming from love. But when you're coming from fear,
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  Speaker 2: this is where things need to change. You can't enjoy it.
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  Speaker 2: You're always waiting for the other shoe to drop. You're
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  Speaker 2: walking on egg shells. Your nervous system and your body
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  Speaker 2: is on overdrive, and it's not healthy at all. I
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  Speaker 2: see this so often. I work with women throughout their
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  Speaker 2: entire life and I've seen women save forever. I have
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  Speaker 2: this one client. She invested, she saved, she was so responsible,
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  Speaker 2: she did everything she was so opposed to do, like
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  Speaker 2: they tell us. And now she finally has enough money
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  Speaker 2: to enjoy your life. She has millions, but she can't
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  Speaker 2: enjoy it. She can't take that trip, she can't spend
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  Speaker 2: that money. She's afraid to spend that money. Even when
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  Speaker 2: she needs a new car, but she keeps the old
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  Speaker 2: one forever and ever and ever, even when it's falling down,
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  Speaker 2: breaking down. To me, that is another thing of safety.
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  Speaker 2: My car has got to be able to run. She
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  Speaker 2: wants to help her children, but she worries that giving
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  Speaker 2: them too much money might jeopardize her future. And I
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  Speaker 2: keep you know. She comes to me after being with
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  Speaker 2: several other advisors, and I see her going through advisers.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, everyone's told you you're fine, So we
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  Speaker 2: have to look deeper. This is where you need a
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  Speaker 2: money coach. We have to look deeper and find out
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  Speaker 2: where this feeling is coming. Sometimes the numbers tell a
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  Speaker 2: completely different story. The financial plans says she's okay, her
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  Speaker 2: account's issue okay. The math says she's okay. But emotionally,
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  Speaker 2: she just doesn't feel okay. And that is so important
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  Speaker 2: because money decisions are not made by spreadsheets alone. Maths
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  Speaker 2: alone are made by human beings who've been through shit. Right,
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  Speaker 2: we've all been through shit here and there, we've all
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  Speaker 2: been through prep, We've had a past, we've had experiences,
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  Speaker 2: and so we're human beings and our story and our
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  Speaker 2: history is built into our financial decisions every day. We
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  Speaker 2: make financial decisions every day depending on the past that
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  Speaker 2: we've experienced. So control can also show up in relationships. Now,
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  Speaker 2: let's talk about something that we can be a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more uncomfortable. Let's talk about our control. Money alone
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  Speaker 2: just doesn't affect us. It affects people around us. So
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  Speaker 2: maybe you need to know exactly what your spouse is spending,
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  Speaker 2: or your business partner is spending, or your kids are spending.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you criticize how your adult children spend money or
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  Speaker 2: use money. Maybe you criticize the house they bought, the
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  Speaker 2: car they bought, or how they spend differently than you do.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you loan someone money and you feel like you
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  Speaker 2: should have essay in every financial decision they make. I
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  Speaker 2: actually just saw this on Frasier. If you've ever watched
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  Speaker 2: that show. He loaned Raws money and she started spending money,
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  Speaker 2: and he was like totally judging every time that she
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  Speaker 2: was spending. But in actuality, she was spending things differently
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  Speaker 2: than what he thought. So it puts us into a
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  Speaker 2: judgment mode. And I don't know about you, but judge pudgies.
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  Speaker 2: We do not need to be judge puggies. Like, if
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  Speaker 2: we're judging anyone else, turn the finger around and look
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  Speaker 2: at ourselves. Like. This is probably one of my biggest
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  Speaker 2: pet peeves and probably one of the things that I
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  Speaker 2: had to turn around a lot is when I start
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  Speaker 2: judging someone. It could be someone cut me off from traffic,
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  Speaker 2: It could be anybody at the store, it could be
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  Speaker 2: anything at all. I've really come a long way with
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  Speaker 2: not judging. I've been working on this for oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 2: teen two thousand, fifteen years now, about judging. It's a
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  Speaker 2: big thing because we need to just look at ourselves.
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  Speaker 2: When we're judging others, we're running away from how we
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  Speaker 2: feel emotionally. So look at every negative thing you say
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  Speaker 2: about someone else and turn that around to yourself, because
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  Speaker 2: it's not about them. People are just doing the best
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  Speaker 2: they can. People are just trying to give by in
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  Speaker 2: their life. They all have experiences, they all have circumstances,
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  Speaker 2: and everyone's doing the best they can. So give love,
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  Speaker 2: give peace, Send love, Send peace, instead of judging. So
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  Speaker 2: now we're going to turn that around and look at ourselves. Right,
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  Speaker 2: maybe we think to our kids, if they would just
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  Speaker 2: do it my way, everything would be great. I am
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  Speaker 2: a total victim of that as well. Like, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I still do that right, and maybe I'm right. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: if they did do it my way, they'd be right,
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  Speaker 2: But that's not necessary necessarily their past. They're here for
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  Speaker 2: their own life and their own path and their own
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  Speaker 2: spiritual journey. I can't control that, and it's none of
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  Speaker 2: my business. Really. I raise kids for a certain amount
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  Speaker 2: of time and then they're on their own. Now can
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  Speaker 2: I help support? Absolutely, we're totally doing that, But there's
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  Speaker 2: still a question worth acts asking am I offering guidance
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  Speaker 2: or am I offering control? And am I trying to
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  Speaker 2: control their outcome? Because it makes me feel uncomfortable. I
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  Speaker 2: do this a lot when my kids. My daughter was
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  Speaker 2: going to college and you know where they going to
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  Speaker 2: get into and everyone lived through their kids, right, So
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  Speaker 2: like now I'm in this community and we talk about
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  Speaker 2: our kids. So are you who what your kids are
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  Speaker 2: and who they are? I have to say, being in
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  Speaker 2: North Carolina, it's such a breath of fresh air because
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  Speaker 2: California it was all about accomplishment. Where your kids went
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  Speaker 2: to school, What was happening with they're doing? How much
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  Speaker 2: are they making with kind a job they have? And
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  Speaker 2: there's still echelons of that here. However, is your kid
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  Speaker 2: a good person? Right? Is your kid enjoying their life?
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  Speaker 2: You know it's not about how good everything everyone in
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  Speaker 2: that echelon being judgy wedgie about it, But you know,
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  Speaker 2: did you raise good kids? Are they struggling? Are you
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  Speaker 2: helping them get out of their struggles? We all have
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  Speaker 2: kids that struggle and I hearing that more and more
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  Speaker 2: and more. So how does that work?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: So, when we're trying to control someone else to make
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  Speaker 2: us feel better, make our feel feel fear feel better,
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  Speaker 2: that's when we got to take a look at it.
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  Speaker 2: So the cost of control, control to feel safe. But
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  Speaker 2: control has a cost. It can cost you opportunities, relationships, experiences,
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  Speaker 2: cost you your own piece because we're stressed out every day.
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  Speaker 2: It also cost you money. It could cost you missed opportunities.
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  Speaker 2: Fear makes people sell when the markets fall, sit in
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  Speaker 2: cash for years instead of waiting for the perfect investment time,
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  Speaker 2: consistently change strategies because they're out of control. The biggest
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  Speaker 2: thing none of us can control is control. We can't
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  Speaker 2: we just scant do it. We cannot control the mark timing,
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  Speaker 2: and we can't control other people. We can control our strategy,
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  Speaker 2: our plan, our money plan, our spending plan. We can
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  Speaker 2: control our risk level, how much do we want to
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  Speaker 2: invest or not invest? But we can't control what everybody
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  Speaker 2: else does. We can't control what our kids do, what
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: they spend on. That's not our job. So what are
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: you really afraid of? I want you to start asking
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: yourself these questions and really get some homework done. Right?
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: So what does it mean losing money? What does that
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: mean to you? Do you ever feel like I've failed?
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I failed as a parent. I felt as a single mom.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: What could I have done better? Right? What it mean?
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: How could it mean? Taking care of yourself? Now? What
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: it means depending on someone else? Would it mean becoming
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: like your parents? Losing your independence? You don't want to
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: be a burden on your kids, right? So let's separate
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: the facts from the feelings. I'm feeling like, oh my gosh,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: I might be writing out of money. Okay, is that
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: feeling real? Let's look at it. Is it fact? Let's
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: separate fact from feeling. Okay, this is what I give
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: on a lot of my podcasts. This is your big thing.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I don't want you to ignore the feeling. I just
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: want you to separate it from do I have enough money?
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Is your a financial advisor told you you're good, Get
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: a second opinion, get a third opinion. That's fine. But
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: if they all tell you you're good, then you're coming from
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: a feeling that is not that. You don't need to
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: do that right. So when I say let go of control,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: I'm not telling people to stop paying attention. I'm just
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: saying you can control how much you spend, how much
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: you save. You can control the choices you make. So
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: here's your homework for this week. I want you to
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: identify an area in your financial life where you feel
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: strongest need of control. Is it you're expensive? Is it
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: your income? Are you losing grip on your money? Let's
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: talk about it. Where does that fear come from? Is
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: it based on what's happening today or something in your past.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Is it a situation that you can actually control or
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: do you need to release it? Because if you need
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: to release it, then there's lots of things that we
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: can do to release that. So I want you to
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: see if you're control role has made you feel safe
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: now today you can learn, get knowledge, get a planned,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: find some resources to help you feel educated, to feel
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: more confident, and most importantly, I want your confidence to
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: build and let go of the fear that you used
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: to feel around your money and relationships and emotions. But
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I want your confidence to make the decisions. I hope
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: that's helped you today. So we want to separate feelings
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: from fact. Okay, And if you're spending too much money
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: on something, stop it. You have the choice, you have
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: the control. You get to choose where every dime is spent.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Do I choose to spend it on electricity?
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. Humidity is crazy here, y'all. That's why
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: my hair is up, just saying okay, I'm so glad
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: you're here today. If I rock my finances keep coming.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: I got another. This is one of seven wounds, So
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: you've got some more to check out. And I want
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: you to be able to listen to this podcast, and
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: I want you to be able to stay at the
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: end of it. I rock my Finances.
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