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112 - Ally Rossell: Be Hard to Kill - Running for a Cause Bigger Than Yourself · Getting After It

• 0:00
  Ally: I'm going to make this thing more sturdy.
• 0:03
  Brett: Sturdy.
• 0:04
  Ally: What can you do?
• 0:05
  Brett: I just pressed a button.
• 0:06
  Brett: I don't know what that did, hopefully nothing.
• 0:11
  Brett: What's going on, baby girl?
• 0:13
  Brett: I'll be back.
• 0:21
  Brett: Why do we got this red background?
• 0:24
  Ally: Welcome to Siblings in Crime.
• 0:25
  Ally: I'm Allie Rossell.
• 0:27
  Brett: All right Just kidding.
• 0:29
  Brett: Tell me more about Siblings in Crime.
• 0:30
  Ally: Glad you're in our studio today.
• 0:33
  Brett: I'm in your studio, that's right.
• 0:34
  Ally: Now that we're in Mesa.
• 0:35
  Ally: Yeah, it's not very impressive, but we do have a house for mine and my brother's podcast.
• 0:42
  Brett: What's you and your brother's podcast about?
• 0:45
  Ally: True crime reminded my brother's podcast.
• 0:46
  Ally: So what's your brother's you and your brother's podcast about true crime?
• 0:48
  Brett: well, true crime, mysteries, unsolved storytelling, anything interesting, dark very nice yeah, so what's been one of your favorite things about it, because podcasting is hard and then coming up with all the research and stuff I see you do it in the background it's, it's a lot yeah, I mean it's a lot.
• 1:08
  Ally: That's the worst part.
• 1:09
  Ally: The research doing the hard work.
• 1:11
  Ally: No um no, it's just so fun doing my brother like we've always been friends enough, like we were.
• 1:18
  Ally: We were more siblings before starting Siblings in Crime.
• 1:21
  Ally: Dun-dun, dun-dun.
• 1:24
  Brett: Hence the name.
• 1:25
  Ally: Yeah, once my brother's girlfriend and I became better friends.
• 1:29
  Ally: We hung out some more, but now we actually hang out by ourselves, so we're like the real friends.
• 1:35
  Brett: So you're like real siblings yeah.
• 1:37
  Ally: We're like actual friends.
• 1:38
  Ally: So it's been super fun and we had to plan a hangout and stuff.
• 1:41
  Ally: So I'm like the little sister that gets to hang out with her big brother and I'm like, ah, yay, we're actually friends.
• 1:46
  Ally: No, but it's been really fun and I'm really interested in those type of stories.
• 1:50
  Ally: Anyways, I listen to those podcasts all the time, so now I get to listen to more there you go.
• 1:58
  Ally: And then dive a little deeper for ours.
• 2:01
  Brett: Yeah, we talked about that a little bit on the last one.
• 2:03
  Brett: Yeah, so we want pish posh old news, but go listen to it, it is good and uh, you're on episode 12 now so episode 12.
• 2:10
  Ally: It's growing.
• 2:11
  Ally: We're going up in the world that's right.
• 2:13
  Brett: You're almost to the top five percent of podcasters what's top five?
• 2:17
  Ally: 20 episodes it's top five top five percent what's top one do we know?
• 2:21
  Brett: I don't know research and I'll look into that.
• 2:24
  Brett: Thank you, you're probably in top one.
• 2:25
  Ally: I Do, we know I don't know Research and pull back.
• 2:26
  Ally: I'll look into that.
• 2:27
  Ally: Thank you, you're probably in top one.
• 2:27
  Ally: I don't know about that, you're top one to me, Maybe in episode numbers but I appreciate that I actually wonder what this rank is.
• 2:34
  Ally: We will research.
• 2:36
  Brett: I'll have to look into it, yeah, but thanks for coming on today.
• 2:39
  Ally: Glad to be here.
• 2:40
  Brett: I always love talking to you.
• 2:41
  Brett: You're my favorite person to talk to, so this will be easy.
• 2:43
  Ally: Good Cause, you're stuck with me.
• 2:44
  Brett: That's right, Marriage.
• 2:46
  Brett: I love it.
• 2:53
  Brett: Well, a lot has happened since the last time we talked.
• 2:54
  Brett: We were hyping up team 10 before we came down and then made it happen, but in our last episode we talked about it.
• 2:59
  Ally: Right, when was our last episode?
• 3:02
  Brett: I think in January.
• 3:03
  Brett: Okay, that's what I was thinking time's gone by a little bit, but two months later two months later we're back at it.
• 3:10
  Brett: So let's uh, let's get a little update.
• 3:14
  Brett: Team tim 2025.
• 3:15
  Brett: That was a fun one, it was a fun one.
• 3:18
  Ally: We were back in vegas.
• 3:19
  Ally: That's where we started our first one, so our fifth annual.
• 3:23
  Ally: It's kind of confusing that it's our fifth annual, considering we started in 2019 and it was 2025, but 2020 didn't have a race, hence the fifth race.
• 3:34
  Brett: Oh, I didn't even put that together, yeah.
• 3:35
  Brett: So kind of there were like virtual marathons and stuff, but no one did those.
• 3:40
  Brett: That's dumb.
• 3:41
  Ally: Was there virtual?
• 3:42
  Ally: Yeah, I don't even know I ran, did those?
• 3:46
  Ally: That's dumb.
• 3:46
  Ally: Was there virtual?
• 3:47
  Ally: Yeah, I don't even know.
• 3:47
  Brett: I ran a half marathon on a treadmill in honor of team tim, but we didn't have it, yeah we didn't have like an official race that year yeah, what was that like?
• 3:53
  Brett: The treadmill one, because now you do 13 miles on a treadmill, it's nothing.
• 3:57
  Brett: But back then what was it like?
• 4:00
  Ally: uh, it took forever.
• 4:01
  Ally: Luckily I was still in the cinema so I was able to watch a movie, but I think there was more walking than even a regular team gym.
• 4:11
  Ally: Yeah, because it's like you're in the dark, no one's watching, no one's really looking at your time, like you're not competitive, no one's around you, so I think it took forever.
• 4:21
  Ally: I can probably go back and find that.
• 4:22
  Ally: It's probably on Strava somewhere, but I'm sure it took a very long time and it was like sad because I never did 13.1 outside of Team Tim and so I'm like, woohoo, I did it.
• 4:33
  Ally: And then there's like no medal.
• 4:36
  Brett: No one to cheer with you, you know.
• 4:37
  Ally: So then you just like walk out of the gym all sweaty and you're like okay, but you all sweaty and you're like okay, but you feel accomplished.
• 4:43
  Ally: You're like hey, I did something hard yeah, you feel accomplished, but it's also like something about the community you know.
• 4:50
  Brett: So it's like kind of like a lonely road when you're doing it by yourself sometimes, but that's part of it I don't know why, but I feel like this year's team tim race there was a lot of like the community together, like the team tim community, like we had a lot of fun together oh yeah of course.
• 5:08
  Brett: Um, like I thought it was so fun.
• 5:10
  Brett: We got there the first day, we got to the expo and we met with heather and tina, which are two of your friends, and they're loyal.
• 5:20
  Ally: Shout out heather and tina, you guys can rock you guys have done more races than me.
• 5:24
  Ally: Yeah Well, you came into my life later than them.
• 5:26
  Brett: Still.
• 5:27
  Ally: We came back into my life.
• 5:29
  Brett: It's pretty legit, Right so?
• 5:30
  Brett: But we were there at the expo with my mom and then instantly, like Heather and Tina and my mom became best friends, which is hilarious.
• 5:40
  Brett: Yeah.
• 5:40
  Ally: Which I should have known.
• 5:41
  Ally: Honestly, their personalities are so aligned, just like the most friendly people you've ever met and just like so excited to like meet new people and like, of course they're going to hit it off.
• 5:53
  Brett: It was so good.
• 5:54
  Brett: And now my mom's like trying to find them, husbands trying to find her and Heather are like hey, let's go to the talking stick resort in Arizona and go, go hit the slot machine.
• 6:06
  Ally: That's one thing.
• 6:06
  Ally: That, like we didn't get to gamble which I mean I shouldn't say didn't get to I guess we could have made the time.
• 6:10
  Ally: However, we did not, and I know we let your mom down big time without her hitting the slot.
• 6:15
  Brett: So that's the thing is like, forgive me.
• 6:17
  Ally: Dina.
• 6:18
  Brett: Dina's a big slot machine advocate.
• 6:21
  Brett: She loves them and I love that for her.
• 6:26
  Brett: Yeah, and she had.
• 6:26
  Brett: This is one of my favorite stories about the race, actually.
• 6:29
  Brett: Um.
• 6:29
  Brett: So team Tim was on a Sunday and we got to the Vegas strip and everything.
• 6:34
  Brett: We didn't really take much with us, like the only thing I had with me was my your headphones, actually, cause I forgot mine.
• 6:41
  Brett: Um, but I had your headphones, that's it, and my phone.
• 6:46
  Ally: Right.
• 6:47
  Brett: And Dina same thing had her headphones and your phone, but in her phone case she had a $20 bill so she could go to the slot machines.
• 6:52
  Ally: Well, I feel extra bad that we didn't make it over there.
• 6:55
  Brett: I just think that's commitment.
• 6:56
  Brett: She was ready to roll at any moment.
• 6:58
  Brett: Yeah, that's like Boy Scout ready.
• 7:01
  Ally: Yeah, boy scout ready.
• 7:01
  Brett: Yeah, I mean she had three boys so that's true, actually.
• 7:05
  Brett: So we're all eagle scouts.
• 7:06
  Ally: We attributed I should have known yeah, she got it done.
• 7:10
  Brett: Back to the race.
• 7:11
  Brett: I'm sorry I keep distracting us here, um, anyway, so we got this airbnb.
• 7:16
  Brett: How many people stayed with us?
• 7:18
  Ally: I have no idea.
• 7:18
  Ally: One, two, three, four, five, I don't know, uh, 13 maybe 13 and how many people total ran for team two?
• 7:25
  Ally: I don't know, probably like 20, 20, 22 that's pretty good that was a hard race to get people to which very understandable rock and roll is such a fun race.
• 7:39
  Ally: But it's grown so much rock and roll was our first one we did in vegas in 2019 and I think it was like 150, which is kind of expensive for a half marathon.
• 7:50
  Ally: I mean, half marathon is usually like 120, um, but so it's kind of expensive.
• 7:55
  Ally: But they go all out.
• 7:56
  Ally: They have bands like throughout the whole thing.
• 7:58
  Ally: It's fun.
• 7:59
  Ally: They have to shut down the strip at night in vegas.
• 8:03
  Ally: That's gotta be expensive insane on a weekend right on a weekend, like shutting down roads in gilbert because we looked this up was like 60k for a race in gilbert.
• 8:13
  Ally: I can't imagine how expensive it is in vegas.
• 8:15
  Ally: So I know they have expenses and all that.
• 8:19
  Ally: So I know it's going to be expensive, but this was the most expensive it's been.
• 8:22
  Ally: It's it's really up to its price, yeah, and so that's a hard thing also getting everyone to vegas.
• 8:28
  Ally: You got to get airbnb so it becomes an expensive trip and and you're paying to run.
• 8:33
  Ally: Not many people think like that's a good idea oh yeah so the fact that we had signs.
• 8:39
  Brett: I saw that was like you remember.
• 8:40
  Brett: You paid to be here.
• 8:41
  Brett: It's like you don't have to remind me you're're like I'm already crying about it.
• 8:45
  Ally: I'm crying about it, come on.
• 8:47
  Ally: No, but it was an expensive one, but it is so fun.
• 8:51
  Ally: And those who came well, we actually did it in 2019.
• 8:54
  Ally: And it was the race in 2022 as well, in Vegas, and so it was the people who came in either 2019 or 2022, they know it's a really fun race and so they were really excited to get back to Vegas and I think we had more 2022 duplicates because they know how fun that race was than we had new people.
• 9:13
  Ally: Reason being is, like you know how fun it is at night with all the lights and all the music, and so they want to do again.
• 9:20
  Ally: So they were okay paying that, but it definitely was a tough one.
• 9:23
  Ally: So I'm like god, we got it and many had as many people come out as we did.
• 9:28
  Ally: Yeah, so it was.
• 9:30
  Ally: It was kind of fun.
• 9:30
  Ally: I think next year we'll probably hit back to mesa.
• 9:32
  Ally: That's where our stomping grounds are, that's where our main support is, and we did the mesa marathon, obviously last year, yeah, which was freezing, but it was a good turnout.
• 9:45
  Ally: It was super fun and I think it'd be nice to come back here.
• 9:48
  Ally: I think so too, it'll be good however, it was nice to go back to vegas.
• 9:54
  Brett: I had so much fun I was glad I ran that race because I never ran it before.
• 9:59
  Ally: You ran it twice well, that's the thing I knew.
• 10:01
  Ally: It was really busy because in 2019 and 2022, both times it was like crowded, but this year they had to have like record numbers.
• 10:09
  Brett: I have never seen it.
• 10:10
  Brett: It was what 35,000 people ran it.
• 10:12
  Ally: I haven't.
• 10:13
  Ally: Yeah, I don't even want to guess, I think 30 plus, but it was like when we got to the starting line, that was like the worst part.
• 10:22
  Ally: It took over an hour to start the race, so we're staying there forever, everyone's complaining about their feet hurting and we haven't started running yet.
• 10:30
  Ally: So I was like, uh, it was actually kind of funny.
• 10:33
  Ally: So obviously brett was going for time, so he left us in the dust.
• 10:37
  Ally: You were up front, you're ready to roll?
• 10:39
  Brett: we were in the back which is frustrating because, like you, get put into these starting groups right.
• 10:46
  Ally: Right.
• 10:47
  Brett: Which is also kind of interesting.
• 10:48
  Brett: Yeah, I went with mine, but I was the second group to go and everyone who was in front of me I don't know what happened, but so many people I had to pass.
• 10:58
  Ally: I think people just stood wherever their family was.
• 10:59
  Ally: That's probably true.
• 11:00
  Ally: Because no one's checking to see if you're actually starting with your time.
• 11:05
  Ally: Yeah, so it makes sense, which got to be frustrating for people like you who's going for speed.
• 11:10
  Brett: Yeah, so I gave up on the speed trick, but I still.
• 11:13
  Ally: You still had a great time.
• 11:14
  Brett: Yeah, did okay.
• 11:15
  Ally: But yeah, so I'm in the back, I'm with the rest of the team right.
• 11:19
  Ally: And we're all hanging out.
• 11:21
  Ally: And it was funny because the announcer lady you know they're trying to get you hyped Like I've been here for an hour and she's like you guys ready.
• 11:29
  Ally: And we're like yeah, and then like 45 minutes go by.
• 11:31
  Ally: We're like no.
• 11:32
  Brett: This is awesome yeah.
• 11:34
  Ally: Not ready anymore.
• 11:35
  Ally: So it was funny because she said this thing she's like who came here, who was forced to be here, raise your hand or whatever, and like the whole team was like raising their hand, like what like like now.
• 11:46
  Ally: Who made you come?
• 11:47
  Ally: Everyone points at me.
• 11:48
  Brett: I'm like you guys want to be here I think you guys paid 200 to be here.
• 11:52
  Ally: Nice try you guys paid 200 bucks, don't lie I know I was like don't act like I made you.
• 11:57
  Ally: So it was like kind of funny and it was like an ongoing joke, especially with my family, like my brother and his girlfriend.
• 12:03
  Ally: I'm like, yeah, it kind of stinks.
• 12:04
  Ally: We're stuck in this forever, half marathons for the rest of our life.
• 12:07
  Ally: But they blame me, even though they're like they would never not do it you know, I'm like shout out to both of them honestly yeah, because blake didn't train one time since last team time and he love you, blake.
• 12:20
  Ally: He's become a little beaver boy like he.
• 12:23
  Ally: He killed it.
• 12:24
  Ally: He kills it.
• 12:25
  Ally: That's what I'm saying, not that he's like a like a beef ball, but he definitely is like 30 years old now yeah, tatum had strep throat tatum has strep throat and she's been having really bad hip and knee problems where her knee like gives out, and both of them rolled up.
• 12:40
  Ally: Tatum actually killed it, which is it was fun.
• 12:43
  Ally: I guess she was running with bl and she's like you know what, actually you're going too slow, and she just like dipped out on him.
• 12:47
  Ally: I was like that's freaking awesome.
• 12:49
  Brett: So yeah.
• 12:50
  Ally: Blake.
• 12:50
  Ally: It was like so fun.
• 12:52
  Ally: I said this in mine and Blake's podcast, but it was funny because so you run straight down the strip one direction and then you flip around and you come down the other direction and I was all excited because Brett started before us and he was way faster than us and I ran with our friend John and I'm like looking at the clock because I know what time Brett probably was going to be crossing the finish line and so I'm like okay, he's got to be close to finishing up.
• 13:20
  Ally: We're near the end, but on the other side.
• 13:23
  Ally: So I'm like looking through the trees trying to find brett and finally like there he is.
• 13:29
  Ally: So I run over to the trees, I'm like recording brett.
• 13:31
  Ally: We're like let's go like cheering him on and it was so much fun to see him just like cruising.
• 13:36
  Ally: But then it's funny because, fast forward, I'm on that side getting closer to the end and I see Blake and and he's looks like he's going through a walk in the park Like he, like he was definitely struggling, but he's just like no, everyone has left him.
• 13:53
  Ally: At this point he's just waving so casual Like he's like celebrity is funny.
• 13:59
  Ally: I was like I mean, start running, like what?
• 14:01
  Brett: are you doing?
• 14:01
  Brett: It's a race.
• 14:02
  Ally: I know, so it was it was fun to like.
• 14:05
  Ally: It's funny to see someone like you who's like training nonstop, year round for something, and then it's fun to see Blake and he's just like doing what he can, doing his best, and we're all there for the same purpose.
• 14:17
  Brett: Yeah, and your mom ran.
• 14:19
  Ally: And your mom.
• 14:20
  Brett: And my mom, our mom's abuse.
• 14:25
  Brett: Yeah, let's go shout out to the moms.
• 14:26
  Ally: Yeah, gang, gang, um, was this your mom's first?
• 14:27
  Ally: Yeah, which is so funny.
• 14:28
  Ally: She has signed up two other times and didn't run both times like carl's bad story.
• 14:33
  Brett: Yes, that was my favorite one because like she started the 10k right and then got like a quarter in yeah, maybe, and she's like, all right, I'm good no, a quarter of a mile, I should say sorry, not a quarter of the way in.
• 14:46
  Ally: I don't think she may not have even started.
• 14:48
  Ally: I think her and her friend that signed up.
• 14:52
  Ally: They ended up going on a walk like up a hill nearby and then came back down and called that their race.
• 14:57
  Ally: I don't even know if they crossed the starting line.
• 14:58
  Ally: I love that.
• 14:59
  Ally: It's very, carmen.
• 15:02
  Ally: I love the idea of supporting and I'll support from where I'm comfortable.
• 15:07
  Brett: But what was it like to see her do it though?
• 15:09
  Brett: Because she talked to us about her training.
• 15:13
  Brett: She would, you know, give us updates and stuff, and then you seeing her do it, what was that like?
• 15:17
  Ally: I'm so proud of her.
• 15:18
  Ally: It was so much fun and she has the treadmill that, like you can be on a hike and you're in Mount Everest or whatever, and she's been soaking that up and I think that's been a huge game changer for her.
• 15:30
  Ally: They were just in New Zealand and she was talking about how she was running outside on her trip and I think that she's really starting to enjoy it, which is so fun to see.
• 15:39
  Ally: And it's extra cute because if you know Carmen, you know she's the fashionista.
• 15:44
  Ally: And it's extra cute because if you know Carmen, you know she's the fashionista.
• 15:46
  Ally: And the fact that she rolled up in a leopard, like leotard, ready to roll, that was so good Like a biker jumper set, and so it was like so on brand, her hair is curled, barely clipped back for her 10K and it's like that is so her and I love that.
• 16:01
  Ally: She ran for, of course, my dad and her husband.
• 16:05
  Ally: She ran, but still did it like Carmen style.
• 16:10
  Ally: Yeah, I think that's so cool.
• 16:12
  Brett: That is awesome.
• 16:12
  Brett: When I gave her a hug at the end of the race, didn't have a drop of sweat on her.
• 16:17
  Brett: She doesn't sweat.
• 16:18
  Brett: That's crazy, you know she doesn't wear deodorant.
• 16:21
  Brett: Really.
• 16:22
  Ally: I don't think she wears deodorant.
• 16:23
  Ally: She might get mad.
• 16:26
  Ally: She doesn't wear deodorant.
• 16:26
  Ally: Really I don't think she wears deodorant.
• 16:27
  Ally: She wears dinner, like on work, at theater, working out, but she like, she knows she doesn't stink, she doesn't have to shave her legs or anything.
• 16:31
  Ally: She doesn't have hair.
• 16:32
  Ally: She's literally a barbie doll.
• 16:34
  Ally: No wonder like impressive yeah she, and it's like precious because she dresses like a barbie doll.
• 16:41
  Ally: She looks like a barbie doll.
• 16:41
  Ally: Yeah, she's kind of like ignorant to the fact that everyone thinks she's a Barbie doll and she's just like she just does her own thing and she just rocks it.
• 16:50
  Brett: I love it.
• 16:50
  Brett: It's so cute.
• 16:51
  Ally: Confidence I want to be like her when I grow up.
• 16:54
  Brett: Me too.
• 16:54
  Brett: She's the most confident.
• 16:57
  Ally: So it was really fun to see her.
• 16:58
  Ally: She did her 10K and she was so proud.
• 17:00
  Ally: She did so great.
• 17:01
  Ally: I don't know what her time was, but I think she was proud of it.
• 17:05
  Brett: Yeah, no, she ran with my mom for a good majority of it.
• 17:10
  Brett: Yeah, and then my mom came in like 15 or 10 minutes after her.
• 17:14
  Ally: I don't even think it was that long.
• 17:15
  Ally: I think it was like eight.
• 17:17
  Brett: It felt long.
• 17:17
  Brett: I was cold oh that's fair.
• 17:25
  Ally: I think it was pretty quick after your mom finished, which is so fun because I know your mom's been training too and I just love seeing people push themselves and like obviously they're older women, not old older when your mom listens to this.
• 17:33
  Ally: I'm not calling you old, but I am but it's fun because, like, obviously they did a 10k and we encourage everyone to do a half marathon.
• 17:41
  Ally: Yeah, but they're running for the first time in a long time.
• 17:45
  Ally: Like your mom hasn't been competing, running or trying running lately.
• 17:48
  Ally: My mom, same with her.
• 17:50
  Ally: She's done a triathlon in the past, she's done races, but this is both their first time in a little while, and so it's cool to see them push themselves where they're at.
• 18:00
  Brett: Yeah, I mean, my mom told me that she would never run a year and a half ago because, like her hips been so bad.
• 18:06
  Ally: Right.
• 18:07
  Brett: And then I remember it was like six months ago.
• 18:10
  Brett: She's like I'm going to run team Tim.
• 18:12
  Ally: Yeah.
• 18:12
  Brett: She's like I'm just going to start small and I think she started with like a mile around the neighborhood and then progressively got better.
• 18:17
  Brett: But it's like exactly what you said they just started where they're at and did what they could and still got it done.
• 18:23
  Brett: I Started where they're at did what they could and still got it done.
• 18:26
  Brett: I think it's cool.
• 18:27
  Brett: It's so impressive.
• 18:27
  Brett: That's what we always try and tell people with Team Tim too you should set your goal for something that's difficult for you but is within your wheelhouse, and then try and do it.
• 18:36
  Ally: That's why we always encourage half marathons, because usually we're talking people our age.
• 18:39
  Ally: I'm like, you're capable.
• 18:41
  Ally: I don't care if you feel like you're overweight, if you've never ran, if you set a goal, especially Team Tim, in 2026 is a year from now.
• 18:49
  Ally: If you're 25, you can do that.
• 18:51
  Ally: You can do a half marathon, you don't need to do the 10K.
• 18:56
  Brett: You're only doing a 10K if you're rolling up that day without training basically I would say my advice to anyone like that is just like push yourself, like see what you can do and don't go for speed right just focus on the miles right and just get it done.
• 19:12
  Ally: Yeah matter it's so rewarding to do something you haven't done before, especially when it's um, I don't know how to verbalize this well, but hard to like the society standard.
• 19:29
  Ally: Like most people aren't going out and running 13 miles regularly Most people you do, but like most people aren't doing that and so be able to recognize that you are doing an uncommon thing is so satisfying.
• 19:46
  Ally: And then how neat because you're running against cancer, and so not only are you doing something hard for yourself, you feel extra good because you know you're in support of some of people who are going through harder things yeah, like what's?
• 19:58
  Ally: 13 miles versus 12 rounds of chemo?
• 20:01
  Ally: You know yeah like how grateful are we that we're able to run?
• 20:06
  Ally: yeah, you should tell the story of the old lady at the gym that you saw the other day oh, this is interesting, so I'm running I'm in the cinema and I I think I had seven miles that day or something, I'm not, I don't remember, but I was watching what's what, which version of?
• 20:27
  Ally: Oh, it's dr strange, dr strange, literally the worst movie to run to.
• 20:33
  Ally: Nothing's more gonna throw me off my treadmill than the whole camera flipping upside down and stuff.
• 20:37
  Ally: This is number two, though, so it's the worst one, the worst one yeah, and so it's the one where what's black widow read something scarlet witch, scarlet witch.
• 20:45
  Ally: I'm way off, I really don't know these.
• 20:46
  Brett: The worst one, yeah, and so it's the one where what's Black Widow Red something?
• 20:47
  Ally: Scarlet Witch Scarlet Witch, I'm way off.
• 20:48
  Ally: I really don't know these movies that well.
• 20:50
  Brett: The benefits of being married to a nerd.
• 20:51
  Ally: Yeah, I love it.
• 20:52
  Ally: So the Scarlet Witch the whole plot is basically she's trying to take over the Scarlet Witch chick on a different timeline because she has kids and she's like I want to be a mom, those are my children, like I need to become like the one on that timeline, the timeline so I can have my kids.
• 21:14
  Ally: So like, literally, she's doing crazy stuff, like she's doing like black magic, crazy spells in a weird book to summoning satan, summoning, saying, yeah, she's doing literally everything in order to be a mom.
• 21:27
  Ally: And I was thinking about that.
• 21:28
  Ally: I had just finished my run, I just was wiping down my treadmill and I was like how, in, like, what a interesting perspective.
• 21:38
  Ally: Like this woman's doing everything to be a mom.
• 21:41
  Ally: And I imagine the mom on that timeline is like, oh, the kids were so hard today.
• 21:46
  Ally: This person's doing this, this person's giving me back talk, I hate my kids today, and little does she know there's another woman trying to take her life over, you know.
• 21:55
  Ally: And I was like that's an interesting perspective, like people would kill to have your life.
• 22:00
  Ally: And so I'm thinking about this and why I found the treadmill.
• 22:03
  Ally: I'm'm throwing it away and, um, this, I take off my headset or my um headphones and this woman, she's like an older woman and she was like you're sweating a lot.
• 22:15
  Ally: I was like, yeah, I was like yeah, I was like, wait, I hate you.
• 22:20
  Ally: No, I was like, yeah, I'm really sweaty and she goes I wish that I could run like you and be able to sweat like that.
• 22:32
  Ally: So along the lines about how, like she wishes that she was in good health, that she could run, and I was like here, am I thinking that it's easy to get in the mindset of like woe is me, you know, or whatever, like oh, I wish I was a mom, I wish this, you know, and I'm like I need to be grateful that I can run, like recognize where you're at and be like how grateful am I that I have a body that's capable of running, that I have husband and a home and I have all these things that people are like wanting in their life right now.
• 23:07
  Ally: I also have things I don't want and that's okay to like recognize, like if you can't be a mom, like recognize, like it's okay to want that righteous desires.
• 23:17
  Ally: But it was just like perfect timing where I'm thinking little does lady know, like that other mom wants her life or that other woman wants her life as a mom and meanwhile in my real life, this lady is saying like how she wishes she could run and I was like you know what?
• 23:34
  Ally: That's such an important reminder.
• 23:36
  Ally: Like right then and there, like when I'm running and when I'm doing hard things if I don't want to do it that day, someone somewhere is wishing like dang, I wish that was me.
• 23:46
  Brett: Right, yeah, it's such a powerful mindset to have.
• 23:49
  Brett: It's just gratitude, honestly, like you boil it down, it's really gratitude.
• 23:54
  Brett: I tell you all the time, or I tell people all the time, like whenever I don't want to run.
• 23:59
  Brett: I think of Rob Jones.
• 24:00
  Brett: He's the guy that ran 31 marathons and 31 days on prosthetics and it's like I guarantee you like, yeah, he gets the job done, but I'm sure he's like I wish I had legs right like he.
• 24:14
  Brett: just he got blown up and they're gone.
• 24:16
  Brett: But like I guarantee you he's like man it.
• 24:19
  Brett: This life would be so much easier if I just had my legs again, cause like he'll post his morning routine on Instagram and stuff and it's like he rolls out of bed.
• 24:27
  Brett: He has to go sit on this like stump, put on his prosthetic sleeves, put on his prosthetics like crank them up and then like it just is a lot.
• 24:36
  Ally: It's a different type of pain.
• 24:38
  Brett: Yeah, it's insane, and so like that gratitude mindset, I think is is so powerful.
• 24:43
  Brett: And bringing it back to team Tim, like every time I run it, I ran this race with, um, the initials of everyone who I was running for on my arm.
• 24:54
  Brett: But every time I run, I always think about the people who I'm running for Tim, obviously top of mind, because that's who this race is for.
• 25:02
  Brett: But, like my grandpa Norm, my uncle Mike, my friend jordan, like so many people, um, who I love and care about, who have been affected by this, and it's like I know they were laying in bed one time like sick and they thought that they're like what I would give to be healthy again, and so it's.
• 25:22
  Brett: That's why we do it is to honor those who who run and are those who have fought battles like that before, and run for them, just to show them that you know we care about you, we're thinking about you, and cancer sucks and what's it like?
• 25:42
  Brett: Because when we all are done with the race, we're taking a picture together.
• 25:46
  Brett: You see this whole group of people who have huge smiles on their faces and you know that they ran for your dad.
• 25:52
  Brett: What does that feel like?
• 25:57
  Ally: Makes me so tender.
• 25:58
  Ally: I feel like in the moment I'm also like in a giddy mood and it's just like fun and I'm having a good time.
• 26:07
  Ally: It's like my friends and family, you know, and so I think in the moment I'm just like happy to be there, but when I reflect on it, like as you personally know, I started to be hard to kill Tik TOK, and so I've been reflecting a lot about team Tim and my, my people who show up and yeah, I don't think I have felt that type of love before.
• 26:34
  Ally: Like I feel family love, I feel love from you, and I feel like there's a different type of love, knowing that people are showing up because they care about you and they care about what you stand for.
• 26:50
  Ally: Like many of those people haven't even met my dad before, but they just want to be there and support.
• 26:55
  Ally: Like they don't even know my dad, like they can't run for him technically in terms of like remembering who he was as a person, which is kind of why I run.
• 27:04
  Ally: I'm like I want to remember him and remember his legacy and they don't have that, but they know it matters to me.
• 27:11
  Ally: They know that other people are struggling and they want to show their support.
• 27:16
  Ally: It fills my heart more than I can even tell, and I feel like every time I post about Team Tim, I'm like my heart is full of of gratitude and of just genuine appreciation for those who are willing to put themselves through hard things for my dad and or for other people in my dad's honor, cause he started the race.
• 27:50
  Ally: Obviously, he was there in 2019 and it's his legacy that lives on.
• 27:54
  Ally: So even and I wanted to emphasize we started it as Team Tim, but we're changing it to Be Hard to Kill, because that was my dad's mantra.
• 28:02
  Ally: Be Hard to Kill Like fight like you've never fought before.
• 28:04
  Ally: And the reason I want it more aimed around Be Hard to Kill is because it's not just about my dad.
• 28:11
  Ally: Yes, that's why our team runs, but my dad was not all about him.
• 28:19
  Ally: Like when we ran the first time.
• 28:20
  Ally: Yes, he was like oh, this is so cool people doing it like for me.
• 28:23
  Ally: But he wasn't like everyone run for me like.
• 28:28
  Ally: It wasn't all about him.
• 28:29
  Ally: The idea was originally he wanted people to run for themselves.
• 28:33
  Ally: Like, do something hard to gain confidence in yourself.
• 28:36
  Ally: But I'm kind of evolving into we have a team, team, team under the name be hard to kill because there's billions, of billions I don't know how many people out there there's a lot, I know trillion.
• 28:53
  Ally: I literally have no idea death percent, not death perception.
• 28:56
  Ally: I have zero understanding of how many people in the world, but anywho, thousands of people, thousands of people, um are dealing with their own trials, difficulties, I would argue.
• 29:10
  Ally: Every single person is going through their own trials, regardless what that is.
• 29:12
  Ally: Something hard people person is going through their own trials, regardless what that is.
• 29:14
  Ally: Something hard.
• 29:15
  Ally: People are always going through something hard and I want our race to be for those people.
• 29:20
  Ally: I want it to be for people who are literally just getting up in the morning is a victory, and you and I have talked a bit about mental health, and although our run is for cancer, I like to think it's for anyone doing hard things at the same time and so being hard to kill covers the bases, like anyone who's struggling, whether that be mentally, physically, emotionally, like there is a support group out there that cares about you and they're going to go through something hard in your name, in your honor yeah, to show that you're not alone correct because no one is.
• 29:57
  Ally: No matter how isolated you feel, even if you don't have a close bubble around, you have friends and family.
• 30:04
  Ally: Like there is support, there's communities out there for you, whether you know it or not yeah, yeah, it's true.
• 30:12
  Ally: And I want to build, be hard to kill, so that those people who feel that there's no one around them feel that there's no one that hears them, that they can find comfort in our group, like open arms.
• 30:26
  Brett: I love that.
• 30:27
  Brett: I think this is the first time I've heard about this rebranding, so I'm totally in for it.
• 30:32
  Ally: You didn't.
• 30:33
  Ally: Yes, no, no.
• 30:34
  Brett: The total team Tim flip to be hard to kill.
• 30:37
  Brett: I thought it was just your Tik TOK page.
• 30:39
  Ally: No, you didn't think that.
• 30:40
  Ally: Yeah, a little bit.
• 30:42
  Ally: There's no way.
• 30:43
  Ally: I love it though.
• 30:48
  Brett: I think it's a hundred percent like spot on with what you said.
• 30:50
  Brett: With you know, we're in this fight with you together.
• 30:52
  Brett: I'll always run for Tim.
• 30:53
  Brett: But there's also other people who I know struggle with Current things.
• 30:58
  Brett: Yeah, current things and mental health issues is a big one.
• 31:01
  Brett: Some people who just feel like they're in a funk and don't know how to get out.
• 31:08
  Brett: And running for them, showing them like, hey, I'm here for you, just by doing something like not simple, it is simple, but it's not easy.
• 31:20
  Brett: Running a half marathon, like I don't know.
• 31:23
  Brett: I think it just helps them know that you're thinking about them, that they're top of your mind.
• 31:31
  Brett: But I think there's also something that happens, happens when you run for something, you do something hard for someone else in their name, like it makes you love that person more, as weird as it sounds so true and I think the reason people come out and run for your dad is because they love your family, like they may have not known tim, but they know you, they know blake, they know carmen and they love you guys.
• 31:55
  Brett: And so they're like, yeah, you know, we're aware of what what tim had to go through and we're willing to to be here for him and you guys yeah, when I say like rebrand, I mean it's still a race against cancer, but in no way, or it shouldn't be.
• 32:18
  Ally: The only reason you're running is what I'm saying.
• 32:20
  Ally: It's definitely going to be a cancer race, but there's so many people that are dealing with other hard things that can still be honored.
• 32:28
  Brett: Yeah.
• 32:29
  Ally: And my dad.
• 32:30
  Ally: He.
• 32:31
  Ally: I think that people like Tina and Heather, for example, because we've been talking about them, they're the ones that haven't met my dad and I think that they feel like they know him, like it's kind of funny, because the first race, like it was like oh yeah, they're like Team Tim, like they've never met him.
• 32:51
  Ally: You know, and as time has gone on, like I posted more videos and I posted things you know, and they even said like, oh, tim's here, like I know, you know.
• 32:58
  Ally: And I think that they feel like they know him at this point because we're doing our best to keep his legacy alive, post about him and stuff, because that's our specific team and I think that's one of my or been one of my favorite things about doing a race every year.
• 33:16
  Ally: In the beginning I was like I can't believe I signed up for this for the rest of my life.
• 33:19
  Ally: Like I was like sorry, dad, we're not doing that ever again.
• 33:22
  Ally: Um, now I'm like I run more often, so I'm like okay, whatever.
• 33:27
  Ally: But I think one of my most favorite things is the fact that I feel so close with him during these runs, like I, because we're doing our best to keep his legacy alive and we are honoring him, where usually all the t-shirts are like his slogans and like things he's said, so like everything is kind of right now revolved around my dad and it just feels like he would be stoked out of his mind.
• 34:01
  Ally: Like knowing him, he's probably like let's go, you know, like he's the ultimate hype man ever, and so what a privilege it is to be able to remember him in a way that he would respect.
• 34:15
  Brett: I mean, I think that's exactly what you're doing is keeping the legacy alive.
• 34:18
  Brett: You're honoring his legacy.
• 34:20
  Ally: Trying.
• 34:21
  Brett: It's, um, I mean I, I I knew Tim just like as your dad, and I talked to him a few times, but like I feel exactly like you said, like I know him a lot more now and it's because I've learned about him the stories, like hearing or watching the old, the videos you post on Tik TOK and all these things and on the page um the team, tim Instagram.
• 34:47
  Brett: Like it is true, like it feels like I know him like a lot he's my father-in-law and it's it's that feels that way and I love what he talked about in his life about doing hard things, because you mentioned it briefly.
• 35:04
  Brett: But like doing hard things does build confidence and it might sound cliche or it might sound like a gimmick, but it is the truth.
• 35:13
  Brett: Like you proved to yourself that you can do something difficult.
• 35:17
  Brett: Then it's like what else can I do and what else can I accomplish?
• 35:21
  Brett: Like maybe that promotion at work isn't as far off as I think it is, because you know what I proved to myself I can do something that I never thought was possible.
• 35:28
  Brett: And like what a legacy that is for Tim to have.
• 35:33
  Brett: Like do hard things because you don't know what's on the other side of them.
• 35:37
  Ally: Let me ask you this so doing hard things brings confidence.
• 35:42
  Ally: We talk about that all the time.
• 35:43
  Ally: In your life you've done hard things and you keep doing hard things.
• 35:49
  Ally: You keep raising the bar.
• 35:50
  Ally: I know your big thing is like trying to find your limits, Like when are you going to stop?
• 35:55
  Brett: Right.
• 35:56
  Ally: Which is incredible.
• 35:57
  Ally: But when you're, but when you're doing these hard things like you got yourself three marathon and you're like hitting all these times and your distances, I guess my question would be how, how do you like I know you're hard on yourself, but you've been doing better at celebrating little wins how are you taking, like, those accomplishments and like you keep raising the bar, those accomplishments and like you keep raising the bar, like, how do you keep adjusting your goals to be proud of what you have accomplished and not like brush them under the rug, be proud of that and not be overcome with what's next?
• 36:44
  Brett: yeah, that's a great question.
• 36:46
  Brett: First I want to say, like the hard things we're talking about are not like life's hardships that come up Right, like things that happen in your life that you can't control, like it's willingly putting yourself in in the path of hard things like like a marathon or job promotion, or intentionally yeah, intentional hardships.
• 37:09
  Ally: Right.
• 37:10
  Brett: And I think at the beginning, the reason I kept pushing the bar was because I accomplished something.
• 37:17
  Brett: And then someone would say, oh, that's so awesome, you did that, like you're amazing, you're crazy, and it's like well, if I want them to say that again, I have to do something that's harder, and so he felt like it was kind of for the public eye.
• 37:31
  Brett: It was almost that way and it wasn't until, I think, after I ran my first marathon in Utah, where I was like you know what?
• 37:39
  Brett: This is something I want to see through, um, because I didn't do as well as I wanted to, and I was like I know, if I go back to the drawing board, figure out a better training plan that I can perform better, and so now it's like I'm, of course, I'm still proud of the things that I did.
• 37:58
  Brett: I'm proud of my first half marathon I ran.
• 38:00
  Brett: That wasn't even a race, that was just outside on some random back road in Utah, but I told myself I was going to do it and I was like I'm going to get it done.
• 38:10
  Brett: But I got sick before.
• 38:13
  Brett: Everyone knows the story if they listen to this podcast.
• 38:16
  Brett: And then eventually I just ran it, like I ran the half marathon and I was really proud of myself and I think that race I might be the most proud of honestly, because it was like the first time I recognized that potential in myself.
• 38:29
  Brett: And then I ran my first official Team Tim, which is my second half marathon, and I was like that felt really good, it was really cool doing it with a group of people.
• 38:40
  Brett: I was proud of that.
• 38:41
  Brett: And then I think it's just being proud of the progress you're making.
• 38:47
  Brett: And something I've I've kind of fallen in love with lately is like focusing on the process and not the outcomes.
• 38:53
  Brett: And it's tough, it really is, but it's like if you know you're becoming a better person for or like by training for a race, by eating healthier, by learning and becoming better in those areas, then I think that's what you should be proud of and that's where your confidence should come from is that you're always progressing, that you're always trying to, yeah, set the bar higher, but it doesn't have to be like crazy high yeah.
• 39:19
  Brett: That's like I want to do those things, to see what my my limits are and see if I can even do them.
• 39:23
  Brett: And the other thing, too, is like I admire a lot of people who push themselves in that way and it's like, if they can do it, so can I.
• 39:30
  Brett: Like I always go with that too, and um, but I think you always have to be proud of the work that you're doing.
• 39:38
  Brett: And, like, if you can sit at the end of the day and say, you know what?
• 39:41
  Brett: I gave it my my best, I gave it my all, even if you don't feel like it was a great productive day, but you can say that you did your best, then that's what you need to be proud of.
• 39:52
  Brett: Like, yes, mistakes are going to be made, things are going to happen in your life, but that doesn't mean you're a bad person.
• 39:58
  Brett: That means you're human and you have to recognize, like, the accomplishments that you are doing and don't just like brush them aside.
• 40:07
  Brett: It's one of the reasons I journal.
• 40:10
  Brett: It's so like I have a log of everything that I've done, not just like races or accomplishments or anything like that.
• 40:13
  Brett: It's one of the reasons.
• 40:13
  Brett: I journal it's so like I have a log of everything that I've done, um, not just like races or accomplishments or anything like that, but it's like my day to day life, like I can see I'm becoming a better person and like that builds confidence over time.
• 40:24
  Brett: And so these, these races where, like I'll go out, drew and I are going to run a 50 miler next year, I'm going for a two 45 marathon in June this year and it's like you know if I get it, great if I don't, I've been training hard like for that result and like I know that I'm better for it because I feel healthy.
• 40:48
  Ally: I like a net good.
• 40:51
  Brett: Yeah, it's a net good and it's just like training the mind, um, because that's ultimately like what I'm trying to do with running these races is like to see how far I can push my mind, um, because I've learned running.
• 41:05
  Brett: Yes, it's a physical game, but it's a hell of a lot of a mental game as well and so I don't even know if I answered your question, but I would just say it's like you have to first, yeah, acknowledge the wins and don't brush them aside.
• 41:17
  Brett: And, to your point, I am very hard on myself and when I ran my sub three, I struggled with this because, like as soon as I did it, I was like okay, now I have to push it more.
• 41:28
  Brett: Like I was like great.
• 41:30
  Brett: Ran the sub three.
• 41:30
  Brett: What's next?
• 41:31
  Brett: But now it's like no, like I'm proud of that, um, I used to be a victim of that mindset, like you always have to keep raising the bar for other people.
• 41:42
  Brett: But now it's like no, like I'm raising it for myself, because that's how you become better is, if you focus on the process, the outcomes come.
• 41:50
  Brett: Like the results will come, um, I was talking to actually one of my buddies at pattern and he was asking me about like some sales work and stuff.
• 42:00
  Brett: And he was asking me like how do I get you know people to meet with me or all this stuff?
• 42:05
  Brett: And I was like you're asking the wrong questions.
• 42:07
  Brett: It's like, what are you doing now that you can improve, um, cause that's ultimately what you're supposed to be doing in life is getting better, because the time will come when we have kids and I want them to see that example and be like hey, you know, it's kind of like what Tim said you do hard things and good things happen.
• 42:24
  Brett: And it's not necessarily like I'm going after a certain end point or something like that, but I do believe in that motto, like if you do hard things, good things will happen and a lot of that those good things are confidence.
• 42:38
  Brett: It's belief in yourself.
• 42:40
  Brett: It's, you know, that feeling of accomplishment and, yeah, it's just proof that you can push past the pain and keep going.
• 42:49
  Ally: Right and in running like health comes along with it, which is nice.
• 42:53
  Ally: That's one thing that I really.
• 42:56
  Brett: Obviously you can overdo it like goggins, but I love goggins, which is funny because I'm like.
• 43:01
  Ally: He's like healthy and not healthy at the same time.
• 43:04
  Brett: Cardio crazy, knees broken I mean the dude's crazy because like he has holes in his heart yeah, and he's just chilling yeah, he's had surgeries for it right, I'd get sad if you got that far, but I would love you.
• 43:15
  Brett: Regardless.
• 43:16
  Brett: He was born with it and then he still ran oh, that's crazy.
• 43:20
  Ally: But what I was just gonna say is I feel like I really struggle with that, with being able to be proud of my day-to-day, because there's times I plateau so hard like I'm like training for a team team.
• 43:31
  Ally: My problem is I know you just had a podcast on this and so I should really re-listen to it like 17 million times.
• 43:37
  Ally: But but like not putting your worth and things like that, and for me, I'll be like, if I don't hit this run, I'm the worst person in the world and I hate myself.
• 43:50
  Ally: Yeah, last year I like rode off running.
• 43:53
  Ally: You remember that?
• 43:54
  Ally: I was like going for Boston at the time it was three and a half hours and the race was coming up.
• 44:01
  Ally: I was not hitting any of my trainings, my my times, and I was like I am a failure, I suck.
• 44:09
  Ally: The self-talk was horrible.
• 44:11
  Ally: And I went on a Canyon run and I was like, okay, like I have to hit these times, I have to hit this distance.
• 44:18
  Ally: Like this race is coming up in a month and I'm not on par, I have to hit these things and it was my biggest flop ever.
• 44:26
  Ally: I was so depressed.
• 44:27
  Ally: I called you like eight miles into like my 18 miler.
• 44:31
  Brett: I will say that was one of the only times in our marriage where I was scared of you.
• 44:35
  Ally: Rightfully so.
• 44:36
  Brett: You looked like you wanted to bite my head off.
• 44:39
  Ally: I wanted to kill everybody and then I wanted to die.
• 44:41
  Ally: So it was.
• 44:44
  Ally: I can't even describe how I felt.
• 44:47
  Ally: I was like I've never felt rage and despair like that and I was like this is so dumb, it's a run.
• 44:52
  Ally: And I called you.
• 44:52
  Ally: I told you to come, it's a run.
• 44:53
  Ally: And I called you, I told you to come pick me up.
• 44:55
  Ally: I'm in the worst mood ever.
• 44:56
  Ally: I just get home, hop in the hot tub and just cry Like how freaking loser is that?
• 45:00
  Ally: And I was like why do I care so much about this?
• 45:04
  Ally: And I was like I'm done running, I quit.
• 45:06
  Ally: And then, of course, it's been great Cause I've made team Tim my fun runs now, which was so fun this this year, because you're running with everyone.
• 45:19
  Ally: Yeah, Last year I was, I did my first marathon for team Tim, so I was like competitive, you and I were the only ones that did full marathons and so there's not a chance.
• 45:27
  Ally: I was going to see you and and then I wasn't gonna see anyone else because everyone else is doing half marathons, and so that really was like a me against me, like let's reflect on what I'm doing, and it was incredible, but I decided after that Team Timbs are for fun.
• 45:41
  Ally: I want to be with the community, I want to be with the group, and any other race during the year can be my competitive race, which was great this year.
• 45:49
  Ally: Yeah, I started in the back with my brother the slowest runners and it was fun because I made my way through and I got to run with all of our runners, except for you and one other guy who was fast, and so I like made it through and ran with everybody, which was awesome, and I was like so happy that I was able to like see everyone, because once you catch up with someone, they're like woohoo, team 10.
• 46:13
  Ally: You know like everyone has to cheer when you see your people.
• 46:16
  Brett: I'm telling you, when I saw you wave at me, I got a boost energy yeah, so like you running past everyone it's like yeah, I'm sure like, like, oh, allie just ran past, like I feel, so good, it's fun, boom, let's go and lock in right, and so I'm trying to.
• 46:32
  Ally: The one of the big reasons why I'm trying to make team tim more of my fun races is so that I can take running less seriously.
• 46:39
  Ally: Yeah, like, obviously you're pushing yourself to do hard things, but there's a difference between like literally pulling out your inner demons to do it and and then there's another thing to be able to pull out, like the love and gratitude, and do it.
• 46:56
  Ally: Yeah, and I'm trying to like pull out like the gratitude and the joy in order to accomplish those runs.
• 47:02
  Ally: Yeah, I love that like trend on tiktok lame.
• 47:06
  Ally: I'm a tiktoker, I know, but um, but like the, how grateful am I like I get to go to work today?
• 47:10
  Ally: How grateful am I Like I get to go to work today?
• 47:14
  Ally: How grateful am I that I um can run?
• 47:18
  Ally: how grateful, you know, like all these things, and it's like that is literally how I want team Tim to be looked at, like how grateful are we that we can run and we're supporting our loved ones who can't.
• 47:28
  Ally: They're sick in bed right now or they're at the chemo place or they've already passed away, you know, and so like I want team 10 to be a place of like, gratitude, love.
• 47:39
  Ally: Everyone can come race, no matter your pace, your athletic abilities, like it's a place of like I want to hold it sacred.
• 47:48
  Ally: But the reason I asked you that question is when I'm not running for team Tim, I'll plateau.
• 47:55
  Ally: I'll have a month of.
• 47:57
  Ally: I didn't hit any of my miles this week.
• 47:59
  Ally: I didn't hit any of my paces.
• 48:00
  Ally: I quit running Like my.
• 48:02
  Ally: I like go downhill fast, but as I started the be hard to kill, tick talk.
• 48:07
  Ally: I've been looking back on my past runs.
• 48:10
  Ally: I'm like dang crazy.
• 48:12
  Brett: Right the progress is crazy.
• 48:14
  Ally: Which is so the reason I ask you.
• 48:16
  Ally: That is because it's so easy to get narrow-minded where I'm like this whole month sucked like running-wise.
• 48:22
  Ally: I felt like crap, like everything hurts all the time and I was like reflecting, I was going back and I'm like dang, like my paces are like three minutes faster on my six miles or my 10 miles, whatever, than they were four years ago.
• 48:38
  Ally: But it's so easy to just get wrapped up in this negative thinking if you're not accomplishing certain goals I think at the end of the day, it comes down to your why like.
• 48:49
  Brett: Why you're doing something like if you're doing it just to get the time like.
• 48:57
  Ally: Is that a?
• 48:58
  Brett: good enough reason.
• 48:58
  Brett: I don't know, it might be probably not sustainable.
• 49:00
  Brett: But for me that's not right.
• 49:01
  Brett: And like the reason people come out and run team Tim is that's their why is to run for Tim and run for people who have cancer and to support you guys.
• 49:11
  Brett: And it's like if you're just running to see how many miles you can get or whatever, like like you said, it's probably not sustainable.
• 49:20
  Brett: But if you have a serious why and it's like no, you know what?
• 49:23
  Brett: I want to see how far I can go.
• 49:26
  Brett: I want to see how far I can push my limits and where this takes me.
• 49:29
  Brett: That's my why.
• 49:31
  Brett: And it's like if that's what you believe, then you won't make excuses.
• 49:35
  Brett: You'll find ways to make it happen.
• 49:37
  Brett: And when hard times come up, it's like I know that's part of the process, like the fact that I'm facing hard times Means I'm on the right track, because I've never done this before.
• 49:46
  Brett: And it's like another perspective shift.
• 49:49
  Brett: And it's like be grateful for where you're at, but never set your sights too low, like yeah, I agree.
• 49:56
  Ally: I would hope that doing that would transfer to regular life.
• 50:02
  Ally: You know, like running for team tim or just be hard to kill with your own team is hopefully a reason for you to get out the door, get running, do something hard, push yourself in honor of someone you love.
• 50:15
  Ally: But I hope that that would transfer to people's lives where they're looking for better, bigger purpose in life, maybe like whether it's faith, family, whatever it is like.
• 50:27
  Ally: I would hope that a lot of people motivate people to find the why to their life so they can have purpose and meaning to accomplishing hard things outside of physical.
• 50:38
  Ally: I know you and I always talk about running because that's like huge in our life.
• 50:43
  Brett: Because it's the best metaphor for life.
• 50:44
  Ally: As he's been saying for four years, it's the best metaphor for life.
• 50:48
  Brett: It's so hard.
• 50:48
  Brett: There's ups and downs.
• 50:49
  Brett: There's going to be times when you question yourself.
• 50:51
  Brett: Times you love it, times you love it.
• 50:53
  Brett: You're going to be feeling good, and then you're going to get knocked in the face.
• 50:57
  Brett: Injuries happen, but then the accomplishment's there, anyways.
• 51:03
  Ally: No, I agree, and so the reason I say that is just the race is just such a small portion of what we hope to get across.
• 51:12
  Ally: Like the race, you're looking to build confidence for yourself.
• 51:16
  Ally: You're looking to boost up the people in your life that are going through their difficult times.
• 51:20
  Ally: You're pushing your limits and I just hope that through that, people are internalizing the lessons learned through the training, through the race day and being able to go to work the next day with a whole new perspective.
• 51:34
  Ally: Like how grateful am I?
• 51:36
  Ally: Yeah, and I guess that kind of goes into like what we hope for the future of be hard to kill yeah, what's it look like?
• 51:46
  Ally: obviously mesa next year yeah, mesa next year, mesa next year.
• 51:49
  Ally: Okay, here's what we want.
• 51:54
  Brett: Let's hear it, baby girl.
• 51:55
  Ally: This is like five 10-year goal down the road.
• 51:59
  Ally: Try three, Okay, three.
• 52:01
  Ally: Well, here's what I hope to pull through with.
• 52:04
  Ally: Be Hard to Kill.
• 52:05
  Ally: I hope no one gets offended by the phrase Be Hard to Kill by the way.
• 52:09
  Ally: I know it sounds a little aggressive phrase be hard to kill.
• 52:11
  Ally: By the way, I know it sounds a little aggressive.
• 52:12
  Ally: I just love it because my dad loved it so much with the idea of, like, put up a good fight, fight the fight and well don't give up whatever that looks like and and.
• 52:27
  Ally: Anyways, what I hope comes of this is we talked about making it a nonprofit first of all, which has been on the agenda for quite some time.
• 52:36
  Ally: We've done beginning steps.
• 52:37
  Ally: We just have to get done.
• 52:39
  Ally: So make Be Hard to Kill a nonprofit and our long-term goal would be to host our own run, to host our own run.
• 52:55
  Ally: The reason I don't call it Team Tim, just that anymore is because I want Team Tim to be our team.
• 52:59
  Ally: Who knows my dad or knows us?
• 53:00
  Ally: Who wants to run for Tim?
• 53:01
  Ally: That's great.
• 53:01
  Ally: We support all the runners.
• 53:03
  Ally: Everyone run for Team Tim.
• 53:04
  Ally: I love my dad.
• 53:05
  Ally: Please do Love it Open arms.
• 53:08
  Ally: But the reason I want to call it Be Hard to Kill is because it's way beyond my dad.
• 53:11
  Ally: Like he ignited what I want everyone to feel of like this doing hard things, like put yourself through the difficult challenges so that you learn the lessons when real life happens.
• 53:24
  Ally: Yeah, and so our goal?
• 53:27
  Ally: Well, next year would be Mesa marathon as team temp, great.
• 53:31
  Ally: Everyone can come Run for your people.
• 53:33
  Ally: Whether that be my dad, whether that be someone else, doesn't matter.
• 53:36
  Ally: But as we move forward, our goal is to host the run and have other people coming out supporting their loved ones with cancer.
• 53:44
  Ally: Wear your loved one's shirt or face on your shirt.
• 53:50
  Ally: Whatever your loved one's shirt or face on their your shirt, whatever my mom's favorite favorite team tim shirt is 2022, because it's a massive picture of my dad on the back, and so do whatever you got to do to to rep your person, and the reason I want to make it into our own race is that people know that there is community amongst cancer families and patients Along with that.
• 54:14
  Ally: I don't know how we're going to do this, so I'm going to speak into existence, just so that we have something to aim for.
• 54:20
  Ally: If it's different than what I say, don't hold me accountable too much.
• 54:24
  Brett: We'll make it happen.
• 54:26
  Ally: What I would love to see happen with Be Hard to Kill is sponsoring individual families.
• 54:31
  Ally: Reason being is cancer research is that phrase is thrown around, right?
• 54:36
  Ally: You donate to cancer research.
• 54:38
  Ally: Where is that going?
• 54:39
  Ally: Who knows?
• 54:39
  Ally: In a big, endless, bottomless pit.
• 54:41
  Ally: Which is still great, do what you can, but my goal with be hard to kill is every race we have a family we're sponsoring, and so when you pay for registration, you would have to donate to a family of your choosing, and whether that be 50 cents, whether it be $500, doesn't matter.
• 55:05
  Ally: I want people who are currently getting impacted or currently getting affected by cancer to be able to have immediate relief in some way, shape or form, and if we can be just support in the smallest way possible, that would be a win for me.
• 55:29
  Ally: And so, moving forward, I hope to just continue.
• 55:33
  Ally: That's why I started the tiktok.
• 55:34
  Ally: Now the instagram is now called be hard to kill, not team tim anymore.
• 55:38
  Ally: Like it feels kind of I don't want to say sad to not call it team tim anymore, but team Tim is just um, the smallest part now to what be hard to kill is, and so the reason I have it it'd be hard to kill Tik TOK and Instagram is to have the ball rolling, that, when the time comes, we're going to have our own race that people have heard about us, people know what we're all about.
• 56:12
  Ally: We're about running against cancer, about boosting those who are going through their darkest times in their life and finding a way to give them relief, and so that's where I hope it goes.
• 56:22
  Ally: That's where we're aiming for, and I'm beyond excited for it.
• 56:27
  Ally: I'm definitely overwhelmed, but we can do hard things.
• 56:31
  Brett: We can do hard things, and what better way to honor tim.
• 56:33
  Brett: Like it is sad that the name changed, but at the end of the day, team tim's the heart of this thing and we'll always run for team tim, like the, the name, like we run for the same team.
• 56:46
  Ally: But I want someone who, like their 10 year old, is going through chemo treatments right now.
• 56:51
  Ally: I want them to run for team Landon, you know, like I want them to run for team kit and like have your, have your teams, have like any way to honor these people and I I don't want it to be like some sad thing, like this is not a time.
• 57:12
  Brett: Anytime I ran, it is never sad I know it is so much fun and everyone is celebrating the whole time.
• 57:18
  Ally: I know that people feel grief differently and people respond to grief differently, and that's okay.
• 57:23
  Ally: However, you grieve, you grieve.
• 57:26
  Ally: That's totally acceptable in my opinion.
• 57:30
  Ally: As a griever, I think there's nothing more healing than talking about your person, like remembering and laughing about the stupid things they did, like like we talk about dumb things that dad did all the time, like oh my gosh, he was so annoying sometimes.
• 57:48
  Brett: Like it's not talking ill of the dead, it's like keeping them alive my favorite story is uh, how you would always say like you'd catch your dad in the kitchen and I don't remember what he did, but he had like a pack of newspapers or something, and he put it over some brownies because he didn't want you to see that he was eating brownies.
• 58:08
  Brett: And then you're like you're not being slick, dad, I can see the brownies under there.
• 58:11
  Ally: He's like oh, you know, it's so he or the chocolate, yeah, he had a chocolate addiction and like he knew it, we all know it, we still talk about it.
• 58:21
  Ally: He had a freezer, like a small little like freezer, really tiny, that he would keep his chocolate in because he loves cold chocolate.
• 58:29
  Ally: And it was like a locked freezer and so he would give the key to my mom and he would have to ask permission if he wanted a chocolate.
• 58:37
  Ally: He had to come come ask for the key and she would just hide it and she's like you find the key great, and he would just like never find the key.
• 58:44
  Ally: So he would like try to find, like I would walk out and he's like looking behind things, you know, and I'm like, oh my gosh, but yeah, the the brownie under his wallet, so like literally the worst, like if you're watching the video, like if my phone's the brownie, the coke is his wallet it was like so obvious.
• 59:02
  Ally: I was like dad like that was dumb.
• 59:04
  Ally: He's like yeah, sorry, he just is so funny, like he knows, he's addicted, yeah, and and so it's like fun talking about these things because, like, that's who they were.
• 59:13
  Ally: Like, I'm not gonna be like, oh, my dad was perfect, because he wasn't like like I.
• 59:18
  Ally: I want to keep him alive as well as possible.
• 59:21
  Ally: And that means talking about everything.
• 59:23
  Ally: Talking about like when we decided we need to have a timeout because both of us were mad at each other and I said, okay, timeout.
• 59:29
  Brett: He goes no timeouts and I was like what the crap.
• 59:32
  Ally: Like we just said timeout.
• 59:33
  Ally: So like he's, he's so funny because he has his flaws, he has his great things and that makes him him and so I love all of it.
• 59:41
  Ally: You know, and I want these races to be like let's celebrate like even those who have already passed on they fought a good fight.
• 59:50
  Ally: Like it's not.
• 59:52
  Ally: I don't want be hard to kill, to be a sensitive name because one you're fighting.
• 59:58
  Ally: Two, if they have passed away, then it doesn't mean that they're weak, it doesn't mean that they didn't fight hard, that they didn't try not to get killed.
• 1:00:06
  Ally: It just means that they did their job, they fought the hardest.
• 1:00:10
  Ally: And when you think of like war heroes, like those who died for our country, they are honored and celebrated.
• 1:00:17
  Ally: We don't look at those people as weak or like why couldn't they have lived through world war ii?
• 1:00:22
  Ally: You know it's like you're not, it's not supposed to be sensitive, because they were warriors and they fought their fight and even though they've graduated, they've moved on.
• 1:00:32
  Ally: We happy for them, like we're happy that they're not in that pain anymore.
• 1:00:36
  Ally: And so it sounds kind of like it could be a sensitive name, but the idea is just to to respect those who have fallen Like, like, how lucky are we to be able to have people that we love so much about that we can run for what better way to honor them?
• 1:00:54
  Ally: I hope and I I hope that people see the vision as well.
• 1:00:58
  Ally: I want everyone to understand that their person is close by.
• 1:01:04
  Ally: Yeah, like there's so much more to life after death, and I don't mean to make it too religious, but make it religious baby girl I, I know, but the reason I say that is because I think when people, when people take grief really hard, like, um, I mean, obviously death is the worst thing ever like separation sucks.
• 1:01:26
  Ally: You and I have been doing distance in our marriage this whole year and it sucks, yeah, it sucks.
• 1:01:33
  Ally: And so imagine like 60 years of that.
• 1:01:36
  Ally: Right, it sucks.
• 1:01:37
  Ally: And I'm not trying to belittle that whatsoever, and nor am I trying to belittle anyone's relationship with their like, with their grieving and their spouse or whoever passed away.
• 1:01:46
  Ally: All I'm saying is like there's so much more than what meets the eye, it's a bigger picture.
• 1:01:54
  Ally: There's your loved one is not in the ground just rotting away.
• 1:01:58
  Ally: Like we need to remember, like there's angels all around us and I think I have.
• 1:02:03
  Ally: So I have Elisha and all my marathon for team Tim, I felt my dad probably closer than I have in a long time and I know it's because they're so stoked that you're doing that for them.
• 1:02:11
  Ally: And marathon for team tim, I felt my dad probably closer than I have in a long time and I know it's because they're so stoked that you're doing that for them and they want to be there to cheer you on.
• 1:02:16
  Ally: And I'm not saying people are going to have like some religious experience when they're running.
• 1:02:20
  Ally: They may, but I'm that's not what I'm like trying to imply, but it's.
• 1:02:26
  Ally: It's just a moment of celebration, like let's bring all the angels in one spot, if we can, for a race.
• 1:02:33
  Brett: It's one of my favorite traditions and I love that about it Because, yeah, it's like, because everyone's talking about them, they'll be talking about their loved ones too, for Be Hard to Kill.
• 1:02:43
  Ally: Mm-hmm.
• 1:02:44
  Brett: And I can't even imagine what that's going to be like.
• 1:02:46
  Brett: It's going to be like a race of people with angels behind them pushing them, and that's gonna be sick that's exactly how I view it.
• 1:02:55
  Ally: Yeah, I was like we're all there for somebody, like I want, uh, all the runners, and then that's gonna be doubled in size with in size with their angels with them.
• 1:03:11
  Brett: That's cool.
• 1:03:11
  Brett: I love that.
• 1:03:13
  Ally: And I just am so passionate about that and I hope that we can make it to how I see it.
• 1:03:19
  Ally: But if anyone is listening, keep looking out for be hard to kill, because hopefully we'll we'll run this town one of these days.
• 1:03:29
  Ally: Yeah, and if you want to help out in any way or if you know who we should run this town one of these days, yeah, and if you want to help out in any way or if you know who we should run for, that's one thing with sponsoring a family.
• 1:03:37
  Ally: When the time comes, I want individuals to be immediately blessed if we can, and that way we can support our community.
• 1:03:49
  Ally: One, we're supporting our cancer community.
• 1:03:54
  Ally: But if, say, we run a race in mesa and we have a sponsored kid in mesa that has cancer, like how much more united is that community going to be?
• 1:04:00
  Ally: Knowing that everyone in mesa is running for that kid who grew up in mesa?
• 1:04:04
  Ally: It's amazing and I want that, that unity, I want that support as much we can, because nothing feels better when you're going through a hard time than family and friends and those around you supporting you up.
• 1:04:15
  Ally: Literally only the only thing that gets you through hard times is the hands of others.
• 1:04:20
  Brett: I fully agree with that.
• 1:04:21
  Ally: So hopefully that's where I see team Tim slash be hard to kill going in the future.
• 1:04:26
  Ally: I know next year we're not going to have our own race up and running yet, but we'll do our own team.
• 1:04:30
  Ally: We're not going to have our own race up and running yet, but we'll do our own team.
• 1:04:32
  Brett: Well, that's the thing.
• 1:04:32
  Brett: That's a beautiful thing.
• 1:04:33
  Brett: This podcast episode, we now have a blueprint and we know what we want to make and we can go out and make it happen.
• 1:04:39
  Brett: Yeah, and, like I said earlier, like what better legacy to honor and Tim's like to do this for in honor of him and so many others Like right, it's amazing.
• 1:04:52
  Brett: So it sounds like it's raining outside like crazy.
• 1:04:57
  Brett: I love rain, you do I know it sounds incredible thank heavens arizona needs it yeah, hopefully not when you run, though good point like last time.
• 1:05:07
  Brett: But no, I love it and I honestly I appreciate everything that you've you've said and I think being vulnerable sometimes it's hard about like openly talking about things like this, but there's a reason we do and it's it's so we can make things happen and, you know, be a little bit stronger for it.
• 1:05:26
  Brett: And so, yeah, doing hard things has a lot of benefit to it, and Team Tim taught me that.
• 1:05:34
  Ally: That's nice.
• 1:05:35
  Ally: Yeah, I loved this year 2025 race.
• 1:05:38
  Ally: I'm optimistic about where the future is going to be with future races, but I would say overall, it's just the people who make this incredible, Like the racers, the runners, the supporters.
• 1:05:53
  Ally: Even if you're not running loser.
• 1:05:55
  Brett: Loser no.
• 1:05:57
  Ally: But the support on the sidelines, every part of race is necessary the supporters, the racers, the volunteers.
• 1:06:09
  Ally: I can't talk about how grateful I am for the whole thing as a whole.
• 1:06:15
  Ally: There's so much good and there's so much joy and pain and happiness and there's just so much to it and I'm not like a crazy runner girl, I make myself sound like I did, like did college track and field.
• 1:06:33
  Brett: I am not, you're good.
• 1:06:35
  Ally: I've improved, but I'm not like some cross country runner, like experience run, like I've been running.
• 1:06:41
  Ally: I've been trying harder over the last like three years, yeah, and so it's not like I'm like some crazy runner.
• 1:06:48
  Brett: I was just literally evidence that the results pay off over time.
• 1:06:50
  Brett: Also, I was gonna say is like I was just literally evidence that the results pay off over time.
• 1:06:52
  Ally: Also, I was gonna say, is like I was always just some chubby girl going super slow and I just keep running and having a bigger purpose is what keeps me running, but it also keeps me close to my dad.
• 1:07:05
  Ally: It keeps me close to those.
• 1:07:06
  Ally: I love the supporters.
• 1:07:08
  Ally: It's just been incredible.
• 1:07:09
  Brett: I love it, baby girl.
• 1:07:12
  Brett: I don't think I could add anything else to that without ruining it, so I think this is a perfect time to end this.
• 1:07:17
  Brett: Okay, I appreciate you coming on I love talking about team tim.
• 1:07:21
  Brett: I will literally talk every single second of the day about team tim, if you let me well, you're gonna have to a lot because be hard to kills you and be a nationwide race yeah, so you heard it here first yeah, it's going to be a nationwide race.
• 1:07:35
  Brett: It'll be bigger than rock and roll, I can almost guarantee it, in the next 22 years 22, very specific yeah, I just feel it okay, so 22, how old will we be?
• 1:07:45
  Brett: 27, so we'll be 49 wow, that's a wild thought.
• 1:07:53
  Ally: That's really crazy.
• 1:07:53
  Brett: We'll be in peak marathon age is that true?
• 1:07:58
  Ally: I can't imagine for another 20 years.
• 1:07:59
  Ally: I can't believe we're stuck forever it's a good thing I married you, because if I married anyone else they would not be as supportive running I'm sure I'm grateful yeah, that's good.
• 1:08:10
  Brett: I love you thanks for coming on.
• 1:08:12
  Brett: Love you too.
• 1:08:13
  Brett: Keep getting after it everyone.