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Christa Pike “Mad as H*ll” Walking, Talking, Angry After Botched Execution, to Face “Old Sparky?” · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: Convicted torture killer Krista Pike is mad as hell. She's walking,
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  Speaker 2: she's talking, and angry. This, as Ms.
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  Speaker 1: Pike says.
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  Speaker 2: Is facing Old Sparky. That's right, the electric chair, Old Sparky.
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  Speaker 2: After her botched execution by needle tonight, we obtained the
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  Speaker 2: 911 call. Good evening. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.
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  Speaker 2: I want to thank you for being with us. Colleen
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  Speaker 2: was lured to a remote area She was tortured, pentagrams
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  Speaker 2: cut into her skin. Her mother will never hold her
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  Speaker 2: teen girl in her arms again.
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  Speaker 3: I was astonished when we're 10 minutes in and she's
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  Speaker 3: moving her head and her foot is moving and she's
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  Speaker 3: still talking. It became pretty apparent within a few minutes, Nancy,
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  Speaker 3: that this was going wrong, that things were not happening
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  Speaker 3: the way they were supposed to.
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  Speaker 4: My client, Krista Bell-Tyke, is undergoing a state execution. She
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  Speaker 4: has completed the stages of the protocol. And lastly, we
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  Speaker 4: need from the attorney who is present, she is still
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  Speaker 4: alive and breathing and needs immediate life-saving care. She's 50
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  Speaker 4: years old. Her date of birth is March 10, 1976.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: And she's not awake? She, lastly, knew she was not
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  Speaker 4: awake and she was snoring. She's received two doses, at
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  Speaker 4: least two doses of pentobarbital.
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  Speaker 6: They are supposed to be carrying out an execution tonight.
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  Speaker 6: The female has not passed away.
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  Speaker 7: She's unconscious, not breathing normally in the execution chamber.
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  Speaker 4: So they're carrying out execution tonight and subject has not
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  Speaker 4: passed away. Started an hour ago, not breathing normally, unconscious,
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  Speaker 4: and will be in the executioner's chamber. And then says
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  Speaker 4: on callback, they did carry out an execution and no
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  Speaker 4: code was given. They said they don't have a code,
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  Speaker 4: and it's for the woman that's supposed to be executed.
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  Speaker 4: But they said they don't have a code, so we're
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  Speaker 4: trying to figure out what's going on. How do they
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  Speaker 4: not have a code? Right, they should know the code,
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  Speaker 4: especially if.
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  Speaker 4: He said it is.
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  Speaker 3: They did try to do an execution in the field.
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  Speaker 4: That's what we were told by the person that called us.
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  Speaker 4: But she didn't verify it. So they never gave us code,
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  Speaker 4: the person that called us, because it wasn't Master Control
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  Speaker 4: that called us. It was someone that said that they...
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  Speaker 4: So we called Master Control. Master Control, so they didn't
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  Speaker 4: know what we were talking about.
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  Speaker 7: And....
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  Speaker 4: They were worried about a swatting incident, but that is
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  Speaker 4: not at all what was happening. Krista Pike is alive.
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  Speaker 4: She's walking, talking, and she's, quote, mad as hell. I'll
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  Speaker 4: tell you who's mad as hell.
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  Speaker 2: That is her murder victim, teen girl Colleen's mother tonight. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, straight out to Tori Gessner joining us out
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  Speaker 2: of Nashville, investigative reporter anchor KWKRN, who was there for
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  Speaker 2: the botched execution. That was the second 911 call, right?
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  Speaker 2: There was a 911 call before that. Tell me about
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  Speaker 2: the first 911 call.
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  Speaker 8: The first 911 call was never really released. We did
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  Speaker 8: get a script for the 911 call. Essentially, Tennessee law
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  Speaker 8: protects people's identities to participate in execution. So that was
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  Speaker 8: the 911 center's kind of explanation for why they didn't
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  Speaker 8: release the actual call. But someone calls from inside the prison.
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  Speaker 8: They say that the state has tried to execute Krista Pike.
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  Speaker 8: She is still alive and they need an ambulance.
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  Speaker 2: They need fire.
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  Speaker 1: They need all the works.
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  Speaker 2: Dave Mack joining us in addition to Tori Gessner from WKRN.
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  Speaker 2: Dave Mack, Crime Stories investigative reporter. We have the original
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  Speaker 2: 911 call. We haven't been able to get the sound,
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  Speaker 2: but tell me what happened in the first 911 call
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  Speaker 2: because then there had to be a second 911 call.
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  Speaker 7: Well, Nancy, the problem on this first 911 call is
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  Speaker 7: the dispatcher at 911 said, is trying to identify the
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  Speaker 7: code that they need for sending an ambulance to the
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  Speaker 7: actual Riverbend maximum security prison. Because the ambulance can be
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  Speaker 7: sent to the prison, but it has to be able
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  Speaker 7: to get inside. This is a maximum security prison. You
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  Speaker 7: can't just show up there with an ambulance and expect.
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  Speaker 5: To be let in.
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  Speaker 7: You have to have a code to get through that gate.
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  Speaker 7: And they didn't have it. Apparently, whoever called 911 at
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  Speaker 7: that time did not know the code, did not know
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  Speaker 7: what they were talking about.
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  Speaker 5: I get it.
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  Speaker 2: I get it. I get it. The first 911 call is,
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  Speaker 2: what's your emergency? What's the location? Response, Riverbend Max. Give
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  Speaker 2: me a second. They give the address. And then dispatcher,
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  Speaker 2: what's your code? What's your code? Caller says, I'm sorry. Boy,
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  Speaker 2: were they unprepared. My code for reporting an emergency? You
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  Speaker 2: want to know what the emergency is?
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 2: The dispatcher says, what's the code for the location? You
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  Speaker 2: don't have a verification code? I don't. All right. What's
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  Speaker 2: your callback? I can't believe this. It's a cell phone. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: my stars.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: First and last name. Are you in the prison? Yes.
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  Speaker 5: You're a worker.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Finally, they're getting somewhere. Ambulance still doesn't have a
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  Speaker 2: code to get inside. Caller says, we've been carrying out
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  Speaker 2: an execution tonight. We've administered 10 grams of pentobarbital. The
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  Speaker 2: person is not yet deceased. They started approximately an hour ago.
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  Speaker 2: And we're calling for an ambulance. Are they breathing normally?
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  Speaker 9: No.
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  Speaker 2: The breathing is very labored and slow. You know, to
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  Speaker 2: Mike Jaffer, joining us out of Dearborn, veteran trial lawyer, Mike,
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  Speaker 2: I think I know why the prison is not releasing
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  Speaker 2: that 911 call audio, because they're woefully unprepared.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't know if the state of Tennessee even
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  Speaker 10: knows how to execute people anymore. What the person stepped down,
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  Speaker 10: the director of it. I mean, this is unprecedented. This
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  Speaker 10: is insane. I can't believe it. They don't know how
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  Speaker 10: to execute a woman. So I think that they're running
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  Speaker 10: for cover. People are resigning. They could be civilly liable
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  Speaker 10: from her. Look at it like this. She could actually
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  Speaker 10: sue the state of Tennessee for trying to execute this
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  Speaker 10: person who murdered somebody. I mean, it's unprecedented.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Jaffer, you say, execute somebody. Somebody has a name. It
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  Speaker 2: was a teen girl that was lured, tortured, and murdered.
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  Speaker 2: When she tried to run away, Krista Pike chased her
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  Speaker 2: with a meat cleaver and hacked her in the back.
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  Speaker 2: She took part in carving pentagrams carving them on the
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  Speaker 2: victim's body then beat her head in with a chunk
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  Speaker 2: of asphalt so severely her skull shattered and then what
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  Speaker 2: did Krista Pike do drop to her knees and beg
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  Speaker 2: for forgiveness no she sorted through the bloody goo and
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  Speaker 2: extracted a piece of skull belonging to the teen girl
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  Speaker 2: The next day, she showed it off to her ghoulish
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  Speaker 2: friends and danced a jig.
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  Speaker 11: What did she do?
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  Speaker 6: Screamed and screamed and screamed.
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  Speaker 4: I just kept hitting her and hitting.
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  Speaker 5: Her and hitting her.
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  Speaker 12: I was just looking at her and watching her bleed.
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  Speaker 7: She rolled up her head.
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  Speaker 12: So she got up, tried to run again, and I
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  Speaker 12: cut her on the back.
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  Speaker 7: The big, long cut on her back.
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  Speaker 6: I don't want to hear you talking to me.
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  Speaker 12: You know, it's harder to hurt somebody when they're talking
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  Speaker 12: to you, and you have to see.
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  Speaker 11: Where the person is.
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  Speaker 4: And I said, shut up.
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  Speaker 7: What the hell is wrong with me?
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  Speaker 12: What's wrong with her? What's wrong with everybody?
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  Speaker 11: And I still had a box cutter.
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  Speaker 12: In my hand.
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  Speaker 8: And I cut her across the throat with it.
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  Speaker 2: Slashed her across the throat with a box cutter. Hacked
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  Speaker 2: her in the back with a meat cleaver as the
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  Speaker 2: little girl was trying to run away. But yet tonight,
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  Speaker 2: Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor of Forensics, Jacksonville State University, and
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  Speaker 2: star of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan on YouTube. Tonight, she,
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  Speaker 2: Krista Pyke, It's mad as hell and not going to
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  Speaker 2: take it anymore. Walking, talking and angry.
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  Speaker 12: Whoa.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me about the pentobarbital.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, pentobarbital is a short acting barbiturate. So people confuse
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  Speaker 5: it many times with phenobarbital. which is more long-acting. And
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  Speaker 5: Nancy said that folks at home understand pentobarbital is actually
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  Speaker 5: one of the drugs that is used. I know you've
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  Speaker 5: heard this term before, a medically induced coma. It's one
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  Speaker 5: of the major drugs that's been used throughout the years.
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  Speaker 5: It's also used in the euthanasia of dogs specifically. It's
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  Speaker 5: not like this is something new under the sun relative
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  Speaker 5: to some type of agent that's foreign to everybody out there.
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  Speaker 5: And the way it works is that if you go
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  Speaker 5: to the brain stem, in the brain stem, there's an
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  Speaker 5: area called the medullary area. And the medulla oblongata, people
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  Speaker 5: have heard of that term before. This is the autonomic
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  Speaker 5: nervous center. This is the hub. And so what's happening
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  Speaker 5: here is that pentobarbital goes into that area and drives
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  Speaker 5: that function down. Well, what happens? Well, they develop labored breathing.
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  Speaker 5: We heard about in almost a comatose state, right? Snoring,
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  Speaker 5: this sort of thing. And sometimes these are precursors to coma, right?
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  Speaker 5: And so as this thing begins, as this drug, this
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  Speaker 5: element begins to drive down all of these responses, the
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  Speaker 5: individual will eventually slip into a lethal coma and then
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  Speaker 5: they'll stop breathing. That's how it's supposed to happen. That
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  Speaker 5: is if you have venous drug delivery, which they apparently
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  Speaker 5: did not have in this case, Nancy, because you've essentially
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  Speaker 5: got this agent free floating around in her soft tissue,
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  Speaker 5: in her arm. This is the ultimate nightmare scenario.
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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about the fact that
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  Speaker 2: she had this vein problem that her lawyers alerted the
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  Speaker 2: state of Tennessee to. She requested hanging because she has
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  Speaker 2: a medical diagnosis of a vein issue. So if you
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  Speaker 2: try to inject something in her vein, it's probably not
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  Speaker 2: going to work. And interestingly enough, on the last death
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  Speaker 2: penalty the state of Tennessee tried to effect. Similarly, they
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  Speaker 2: did not have a backup vein ready, and they screwed
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  Speaker 2: that up too. But to tonight, to Krista Pike, why
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  Speaker 2: is she walking, talking, and, quote, mad as hell?
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  Speaker 5: Well, because this drug was slow in the uptake, Nancy.
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  Speaker 5: So just very brief. So we have a layer of
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  Speaker 5: what's called sub-Q fat. Anybody that's diabetic or has family
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  Speaker 5: members that are diabetic, they administer their insulin dose like
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  Speaker 5: in their stomach. Okay, it goes into the sub-Q. That's
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  Speaker 5: the top layer, right? And then you have intramuscular or intramuscular,
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  Speaker 5: which is you hear nurses and doctors say, we're going
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  Speaker 5: to give you this injection IM. Just think of the
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  Speaker 5: most painful injection that you like, the infamous peanut butter shot,
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  Speaker 5: if you get this in your rear end. how much
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  Speaker 5: that hurts, okay? It goes directly into the muscle. And
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  Speaker 5: then where it is traditionally absorbed, pentobarbital is not meant
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  Speaker 5: to be delivered this way. It's meant to be delivered.
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  Speaker 2: I hate to interrupt you, but I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: you're saying. Talk, regular people talk. Why is she alive?
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  Speaker 2: Why is she walking, talking, and mad as hell?
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  Speaker 5: I don't get it. It's an institutional failure. She had
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  Speaker 5: two doses of pentobarbital. It's an institutional failure, and this
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  Speaker 5: is why. There are the elderly that are out there
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  Speaker 5: every single day, Nancy, and our nurses, our EMTs, our doctors,
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  Speaker 5: our technicians set up IVs on people with bad vessels
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  Speaker 5: every single day. This is nothing new under the sun.
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  Speaker 5: Whoever did this was a miserable failure at it and
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  Speaker 5: was not properly trained. I don't know what the attorney
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  Speaker 5: is saying about this diagnosis that she has, I am
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  Speaker 5: not buying it at all on any level that you're
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  Speaker 5: saying that incompetency, incompetency could rise to this level where
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  Speaker 5: you're going to make an excuse for this. The reality
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  Speaker 5: is whoever did this didn't know what they were doing.
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  Speaker 5: And so, yeah, the attorney is going to latch on
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  Speaker 5: to this narrative. But the failure is an institutional failure.
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  Speaker 5: It's an SOP failure. That's why she's up walking and talking.
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  Speaker 5: And be quite frank with you, that's why she's pissed off.
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  Speaker 5: Because as this drug was initially delivered, it created pain
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  Speaker 5: centers that began to fire. She's actually using the term
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  Speaker 5: saying that it feels like it's on fire. Well, that's
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  Speaker 5: one of the things you get in this free-floating pentobarbital.
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  Speaker 5: It feels like you've got a little ball of fire
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  Speaker 5: in there. Also, she talked about the tension around that area. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you've got these fluids that are pumping into an area
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  Speaker 5: where fluids are not meant to be. So she is
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  Speaker 5: going through this period of pain with this. It's a
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  Speaker 5: pain response. They should have known from Jump Street they
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  Speaker 5: were not in a vessel, Nancy. It's a miserable failure.
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  Speaker 2: You were seeing video from our friends at WBIR. I
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  Speaker 2: guess the rest of that question should be directed not
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  Speaker 2: to Joe Scott Morgan, death investigator, but to Dr. Bethany
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  Speaker 2: Marshall joining us tonight, renowned psychoanalyst out of the LA jurisdiction.
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  Speaker 2: You can see her on Bravo, Hulu, Peacock, She's got
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  Speaker 2: a hit new podcast on the couch with Dr. Bethany Marshall.
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  Speaker 2: And you can find her at drbethanymarshall.com.
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  Speaker 1: Dr.
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  Speaker 2: Bethany, I said, why is she walking and talking? And
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  Speaker 2: Joe Scott Morgan answered that with the botched pentobarbital injections.
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  Speaker 2: But angry as hell, she should be counting her blessings.
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  Speaker 2: She's alive. She is out of the hospital, walking, talking, cognizant. angry,
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  Speaker 2: talking about multi-million dollar lawsuits? Doesn't she remember Colleen, the
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  Speaker 2: girl she killed? Why is she, Pike, angry? Why is she, quote,
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  Speaker 2: mad as hell and not taking it anymore?
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  Speaker 11: Nancy, you just played part of the interview after she
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  Speaker 11: committed the original crime, the interview with the detective. And
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  Speaker 11: one of the things she said about Colleen Schlemmer was
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  Speaker 11: that she was angry at her because Colleen was still talking.
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  Speaker 11: That's when she took the box cutter. She slashed her
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  Speaker 11: throat in an attempt to dehumanize her to make it
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  Speaker 11: easier to kill her. So this would be consistent with
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  Speaker 11: Krista Pike's personality. What I think about this botch, this
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  Speaker 11: whole botch situation is it shows profound disrespect for the
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  Speaker 11: victim and the victim's family. If not for Krista Pike,
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  Speaker 11: for prisoners, ethically putting people, executing them in a way
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  Speaker 11: that follows protocol. If not for the prisoner, do it
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  Speaker 11: for the family so they don't have to go back
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  Speaker 11: and watch it one more time. You know, Nancy, when
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  Speaker 11: Colleen Schlemmer's mother sat there watching Krista Pike struggle, don't
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  Speaker 11: you know she probably thought of her own daughter, Colleen Schlemmer, struggling?
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  Speaker 11: Wouldn't she have had a flashback, be triggered, have some
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  Speaker 11: kind of trauma? Like, oh my God, now I'm seeing
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  Speaker 11: what happened to my daughter right in front of me.
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  Speaker 1: It's not clean.
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  Speaker 11: It's long. It's painstaking, like the many hours Krista Pike
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  Speaker 11: and her buddies spent cutting, torturing, hammering, smashing the victim.
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  Speaker 11: So it's unfortunate that this is going to re-traumatize the
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  Speaker 11: mother and that entire family system.
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  Speaker 13: She went in there thinking that justice was going to
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  Speaker 13: get shoved, and of course, Chrisette Pike didn't make it,
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  Speaker 13: didn't die. You had 31 years to do this. You
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  Speaker 13: had 31 years to make sure you guys got everything
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  Speaker 13: in order for this day to happen, and for that
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  Speaker 13: to stop an hour before, it's just a slap in
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  Speaker 13: the face.
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  Speaker 2: That's from WVLT tonight, the specter of the electric chair,
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  Speaker 2: Old Sparky. has reared its head.
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  Speaker 12: What do you think when you think about.
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  Speaker 2: The electric chair?
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  Speaker 6: Um, I don't really think about that because I don't
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  Speaker 6: think I'm ever going to see it. I still have
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  Speaker 6: a lot of hope, and I know that I don't
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  Speaker 6: deserve to be where I'm at. What?
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 2: I don't deserve to be where I'm at? That's from
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  Speaker 2: our friends at Film Rise. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, wait.
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  Speaker 2: I don't deserve to be where I'm at. You mean
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  Speaker 2: on Death Row, woman? Yeah, you do?
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Dave Mack, describe what she did to her victim, yet
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  Speaker 2: she says she doesn't deserve to be there?
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  Speaker 7: Nancy, the shocking reality is that Krista Pike lured Colleen
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  Speaker 7: Slimmer with the thought of, we're going to put our
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  Speaker 7: disagreements behind us, and we're going to move forward as
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  Speaker 7: best buddies. So Colleen Slimmer had been terrorized by Krista
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  Speaker 7: Pike for some time leading up to this, Nancy, and thought, okay,
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  Speaker 7: it's going to be great after this. But instead, once
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  Speaker 7: Krista Pike gets Colleen Slimmer away from the buildings in
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  Speaker 7: the middle of nowhere, pretty much on campus, the attack begins.
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  Speaker 7: Taunting her physically, beating her, slashing, carving her with a
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  Speaker 7: box cutter, a meat cleaver.
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  Speaker 10: But you know, Nancy.
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  Speaker 6: While.
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  Speaker 7: She's being humiliated, dehumanized, being tortured and terrorized by Krista
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  Speaker 7: Pike and her friends, you realize that.
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  Speaker 10: Twice, twice, Colleen Slimmer was able to get up.
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  Speaker 7: She was fighting for her very life, Nancy, and she
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  Speaker 7: got up and ran, only to be tackled again by
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  Speaker 7: Krista Pike and brought back to the center of where
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  Speaker 7: they were attacking her, and the attack resumed.
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  Speaker 10: At one point, Krista Pike got so mad, she said,'.
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  Speaker 7: The b---- won't die, and I want to see her brain.'
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  Speaker 7: It was the most disgusting, despicable thing to think about it, Nancy.
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  Speaker 7: The reason we know this is because Krista Pike told
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  Speaker 7: us what she did. And then after everything was done,
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: after she has totally destroyed this young woman, she takes
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: a piece of her skull and shows it off in
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: the cafeteria the next day.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: I got hurt.
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: And you know what? The family never got that piece
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: of skull back to put with Colleen so they could
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: actually do something to bury this poor girl.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Dave Mack, isn't it true that to further humiliate Colleen,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: the teen girl, they made her take all her clothes
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: off to kill her?
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: They did.
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: And didn't just take them off gently. They stripped her
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: of the clothing, Nancy. And again, remember, when she went
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: out there, she thought this was going to be a
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: time to put the past behind her. You know, Colleen
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: had told her mother by phone that she was being
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: terrorized by Krista Pike.
• 21:01
  Speaker 10: It was so bad.
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: Colleen said, Mom, I want to come home. Can you
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: imagine what Colleen's mother goes through on a daily basis
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: because of how this girl was terrorized by Krista Pike,
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: how Krista Pike lured her, stripped her of every piece
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: of humanity and clothing before destroying her physically?
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: Why is it necessary for you to be there?
• 21:23
  Speaker 12: Because she killed my daughter, and I don't want to
• 21:25
  Speaker 12: see another child or another person hurt like she did.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: It's hard.
• 21:30
  Speaker 12: I broke down in tears. She was laying on a table, talking,
• 21:34
  Speaker 12: still laughing, picking up her head.
• 21:38
  Speaker 10: Has anyone apologized to you for this?
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: No, sir.
• 21:41
  Speaker 12: Nobody apologized. Here we are, 31 years, and you're laughing
• 21:45
  Speaker 12: in my face again. And that's what I feel like
• 21:48
  Speaker 12: they did. I want to think about Colleen being there
• 21:51
  Speaker 12: and saying, thank you, Mom.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: On her voice.
• 21:54
  Speaker 12: The criminals get so much tension.
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: Why?
• 21:59
  Speaker 12: She has been lost in this, and they lost a
• 22:02
  Speaker 12: piece of her skull that we still can't find. She's
• 22:06
  Speaker 12: been forgotten, other than when it's brought up like this.
• 22:10
  Speaker 13: Think of her and not Krista Pike, because at the
• 22:14
  Speaker 13: end of the day, it's justice for Colleen and not
• 22:17
  Speaker 13: justice for Krista.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: From our friends at First Coast News, WHAS and WVLT,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: that was Colleen's mother and relatives speaking on her behalf. Tonight,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: all the headlines are Krista Pike, alive, walking, talking, mad
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: as hell.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: To Dr.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Dwayne Hendricks joining us. former senior warden, Federal Bureau of Prisons,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: 30 years of experience, now private consultant helping correctional agencies
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: and author, Dr. Hendricks.
• 22:59
  Speaker 11: Why?
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Now we're looking at a multi-million dollar lawsuit against the
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: state of Tennessee, against the CI, Correctional Institute, against every
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: single person that had a hand in that botched execution.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: It goes on and on and on. There's going to
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: be a movie. There's going to be a book. There's
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: going to be a docuseries. What about Colleen? What went wrong?
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: They've had 31 years to get it together. And now this?
• 23:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah, we failed. We had one job. You know, the
• 23:29
  Speaker 9: detective did their job. The DA did their job. The
• 23:33
  Speaker 9: jury did their job. She was sentenced to death. And unfortunately,
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: she had been there for over 30 years waiting on
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: this death. And we failed. obviously the protocols didn't work.
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: I'm not sure if they didn't practice. I mean, obviously,
• 23:49
  Speaker 9: you know, we start with her medical history, whatever challenges
• 23:52
  Speaker 9: they've had to deal with, you know, go through all
• 23:55
  Speaker 9: these things to figure out, okay, if she has a
• 23:57
  Speaker 9: vein issue, you know, what do we do? Do we
• 23:59
  Speaker 9: need the best phlebotomist in the state to come up
• 24:03
  Speaker 9: to do this?
• 24:04
  Speaker 10: We fail. And, you know, it's.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Worse than fail. That sounds like a first grader failed
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: on their reading exam.
• 24:12
  Speaker 12: Boo-hoo.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: They just did a similar death penalty botch a few
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: months ago with Tony Carruthers. Same thing. Everybody needs to
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: be fired now and figure out how the hay we're
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: going to pay for Krista Pike's huge lawsuit. But isn't
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: it true, Tori Gessner, anchor Investigative reporter WKRN, who was
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: there during the botched DP, that there are alternatives. There's
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: more than just the needle. There is hangman's noose and
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: old Sparky. Explain.
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: Yeah, there are multiple ways to execute a person in Tennessee.
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: What is legal is the lethal injection, at least for now,
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: in the electric chair, as long as you've committed your
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: crime before 1999. inmates can pick the electric chair. I've
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: actually talked to some state lawmakers here. They are proposing
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: banning the lethal injection. And this is coming from the
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: Republican supermajority. So this is a big deal. Action will
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: likely take place. And they are considering other execution methods.
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: They've even mentioned the firing squad.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: To Mike Jaffer, veteran trial lawyer, Mike, wouldn't that require
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: that Krista Pike wave the needle? and opt for the
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: electric chair or the hangman's noose?
• 25:43
  Speaker 10: I can't believe she'd have options, but I guess she
• 25:45
  Speaker 10: would have the option of waiving the, I mean, at
• 25:47
  Speaker 10: this point, who would dispute if she were to waive
• 25:51
  Speaker 10: lethal injection, but that would be a trap for her,
• 25:54
  Speaker 10: which is she'd then have to acknowledge that she remembered
• 25:56
  Speaker 10: the event and that she was conscious of it and
• 25:58
  Speaker 10: that some of her constitutional rights go away at that point.
• 26:02
  Speaker 10: I know she's a monster. She shouldn't have constitutional rights,
• 26:04
  Speaker 10: but at the end of the day, This kind of
• 26:06
  Speaker 10: puts her and her attorneys in a predicament, which is
• 26:08
  Speaker 10: if she waives anything, then she's understanding the process. She's
• 26:12
  Speaker 10: competent to be executed again. This is a narcissistic monster
• 26:16
  Speaker 10: who does not want to be executed, and she believes
• 26:18
  Speaker 10: that she should not be executed. And this is her
• 26:21
  Speaker 10: evidence in her mind that, hey, this was not meant
• 26:25
  Speaker 10: to be.
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: So.
• 26:26
  Speaker 10: I'm really curious to see if she waives anything or
• 26:28
  Speaker 10: if she has any involvement going forward in what happens.
• 26:31
  Speaker 10: Other than to say, I don't know what happened. I
• 26:35
  Speaker 10: shouldn't be asking.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Back to Dr. Dwayne Hendricks, who got a little relaxed
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: there while I was talking to Jay. First, your turn now. Hendricks.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: They didn't just botch the death penalty twice, and if
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: you include Carruthers, that's three times. But they didn't even
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: know how to call 911. They were calling from somebody's
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: private cell phone who said, what's the code? Even I
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: know what that is, and I'm a thousand miles away.
• 27:15
  Speaker 10: That's basic 101.
• 27:17
  Speaker 9: You know, when I was an officer working control, when
• 27:20
  Speaker 9: you call the fire department or you dial 911, you
• 27:22
  Speaker 9: have the codes. You know, each county may have different,
• 27:25
  Speaker 9: like a code red would obviously be a fire. Code
• 27:28
  Speaker 9: blue could be a medical emergency or code white could
• 27:32
  Speaker 9: be you have an escape. Whatever that is, that person
• 27:35
  Speaker 9: should have known that. And that should have been a
• 27:37
  Speaker 9: part of the protocol because at the end of the day,
• 27:40
  Speaker 9: we have plans, you know, for when things go wrong.
• 27:44
  Speaker 9: And part of that protocol should have been if this
• 27:46
  Speaker 9: fails for some reason and we have to call 911,
• 27:48
  Speaker 9: what if someone in the death chamber area, whether it
• 27:52
  Speaker 9: was the family member or a member of the media
• 27:55
  Speaker 9: had a heart attack, God forbid, during this thing, what
• 27:58
  Speaker 9: code would have given if that would have happened, you know,
• 28:01
  Speaker 9: based on the scenario. So there was no excuse for
• 28:05
  Speaker 9: what happened. I mean, the people came to see her executed.
• 28:08
  Speaker 9: They didn't come to see a failed execution.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: So....
• 28:13
  Speaker 10: There is no excuse. There is no reasons.
• 28:16
  Speaker 9: I mean, obviously, when this investigation is concluded, they will
• 28:21
  Speaker 9: be able to determine exactly.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: My question is, who was the person on the phone going, code?
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: What's that? Dispatch was trying to be nice. You can't
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: just drive a vehicle into max security without the right code.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I think it was Larry, Curly, and Moe. that they
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: had in charge that night. But they are looking at,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: they're looking right down the wrong end of a barrel.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: So you've got the electric chair, you've got the hangman's noose. Now,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: we know that one of the last people executed by
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: electric chair in Florida, their head caught on fire. So
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: just let's think this thing through, Joe Scott Morgan. If
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Tennessee could not find a vein, seriously, You're going to
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: let them be in charge of the electric chair?
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: And, you know, the thing about it is as ghoulish
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: as it sounds, and I really don't care what anybody thinks,
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: the reality is this is like a golf swing or
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: a tennis swing. You have to have redundancy. You have
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: to have practice. You have to understand how it's done.
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: And here's the thing about it. You know, 30 days
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: prior to that execution date being solidified, Nancy, They were
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: supposed to be doing workups. They had windows they had
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: to go through for every it's accounted for every periodically
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: over a 30-day period so the entire team that was
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: involved in the execution knows what their job is like
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: they even have people that understand you're gonna be on
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: the left ankle you're gonna be on the right ankle
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: Everything from that to phone procedures, to being able to
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: get in contact with people outside, every element is supposed
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: to be covered here. So, yeah, now you're going to
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: introduce the electric chair. And let's see how much success
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: we have with that. Because I've got to tell you,
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: it might work in other places. Hey, maybe they need
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: to take a field trip to Huntsville, Texas, because just
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: this past weekend, they did a lethal injection. And guess what?
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: nothing went wrong. The guy died. They failed miserably in
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: this Nancy. And it all comes down to the individuals
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: that were administrating this from the top down all the way.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: I agree with you.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I think they're calling from their private cell phone going, what,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: what's the code. Now I was just referring to Florida's
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: botched DP on Pedro Medina. Um, Prison officials came out
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: wearing protective gloves because they had to help douse flames
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: that shot from Medina's head. So much smoke filled the
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: death chamber. A window had to be opened. So, think
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: about it, Joe Scott Morgan. That's Florida, who has, let
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: me just say, a certain expertise in administering the death penalty. Tennessee?
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Electric chair? No way. That leaves me with Hangman's News.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Tori Gessner, isn't it true that Krista Pike originally asked
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: to be hung?
• 31:28
  Speaker 11: That is true, Nancy.
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: She did ask the court to be hung. And of course,
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: they denied that. But right now, hanging is not technically
• 31:36
  Speaker 8: a legal way to execute someone in Tennessee. So the
• 31:39
  Speaker 8: state's hands were really tied with that. Something interesting to note,
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: you know, it wasn't just Tony Carruthers and Krista Pike
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: that Tennessee has had issues with. Executing back in 2023,
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: Tennessee was actually caught not testing the lethal injection drugs
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: and rewrote its whole protocol, spent years writing this particular
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: protocol that they tried to carry out with Krista Pike,
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: with Tony Carruthers, all the other inmates from 2025 on.
• 32:05
  Speaker 8: And you see how that turned out.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: OK, there's a huge legal drama brewing. I can smell it.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I can smell it. A thousand miles away to Mike
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Jaffer joining us, veteran trial lawyer out of Dearborn. This
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: is what I see it shaping up. Massive lawsuits, but
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: in addition to the lawsuits, individually against those that administered
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: the pentobarbital, but against the jail, against the state of Tennessee,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: and so on and so on. A criminal issue, and
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: that's where you come in. Many people are arguing double jeopardy.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: She can't be put to death. Now, that doesn't apply.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Double jeopardy applies if you've had a trial and you
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: were acquitted, even if you confess, on top of the capital.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: You cannot be retried. Period. So it doesn't apply. But
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: cruel and unusual punishment. Wait for it. Wait for it.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: They're going to argue that this double dose of pentobarbital
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: that apparently pulled under her skin and did not go
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: into her vein, hence the reddening and the swelling of
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: the arm. They're going to claim that to put her
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: to death now is cruel and unusual, but I think
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: they've got a better claim because, you know, when you
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: want to catch a varmint, you've got to think like
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: a varmint. And this, I think, would be a better claim,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: and that would be for them to find an expert,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: and you know they can. I don't know where they're
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: going to find him, her, under some rock somewhere, that's
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: going to say that this failed botched DP gave her
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: some sort of brain damage. And therefore, if she has
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: any sort of infirmity, she cannot be put to death.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Explain what I'm talking about.
• 33:57
  Speaker 10: I exactly agree. That's what I thought about all day today.
• 34:03
  Speaker 10: I racked my brains about this. No, double jeopardy is
• 34:05
  Speaker 10: not going to apply. The sentence has not been carried out.
• 34:07
  Speaker 10: The Eighth Amendment constitutional prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment.
• 34:12
  Speaker 10: But then the last part you made was the one
• 34:14
  Speaker 10: that I really, really think is going to be where
• 34:18
  Speaker 10: they win the day, which is if you have a
• 34:20
  Speaker 10: mental infirmity, if you cannot appreciate and understand, or if
• 34:23
  Speaker 10: you're not cognizant enough to understand what's happening to you
• 34:27
  Speaker 10: with the execution, you cannot be executed. Now, this would
• 34:31
  Speaker 10: just be a delay. It wouldn't be like you're done.
• 34:33
  Speaker 10: You can never be executed, but it would be a delay.
• 34:35
  Speaker 10: It could be an indefinite delay. So she does have
• 34:38
  Speaker 10: that protection. So those are her two elements here, her
• 34:42
  Speaker 10: two avenues. Constitutional prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment, because
• 34:47
  Speaker 10: this is unprecedented. They actually proceeded with the execution. They
• 34:51
  Speaker 10: put the injections in her. She warned them. She told them.
• 34:55
  Speaker 10: Her attorney said, don't execute her in this way. She
• 34:58
  Speaker 10: wants to be hung. She cannot. She has an issue
• 35:00
  Speaker 10: with her veins. They were warned against it. They proceeded
• 35:04
  Speaker 10: with it. She suffered. She was almost pronounced brain dead.
• 35:08
  Speaker 10: And so now if her attorneys can prove that she cannot.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Jafer, did you just say Krista
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Pike was almost brain dead? Did you say that?
• 35:19
  Speaker 10: She was almost brain dead, yeah. She was almost brain dead.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, dear gravy. Okay, close, but no cigar. Joe Scott Morgan,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: she was not almost. You're a JD, not an MD.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: So let me ask you to just shut your pie hole.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Just one moment, Jafer. Wait for it. Of course, I mean,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: no disrespect. I only said that in a loving and
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: caring way. Just got Morgan almost brain dead. She's walking,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: she's talking, and she's, quote, mad as hell. Talking about
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: multimillion dollar lawsuits. That is not almost brain dead.
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: No, it's not. And actually, I think some of her
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: team or some in the media have actually used the
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: term Nancy Ray for this. Miracle. Yeah, this is a
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: real water into wine moment, right? This was not a miracle.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Do not drag Jesus into this.
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: You're the one doing that.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Miracle, water, wine.
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: Well, just so you understand.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I think it's more akin to the dark Lord.
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: Just so that you understand, this is not a miraculous moment.
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: This is malfeasance in office. This is somebody that is incompetent.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: That's what this is. Well, let me give you another example.
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: Another insight into biblical knowledge here, the rain falls on
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: the just and the unjust. And unfortunately, unfortunately, this has happened.
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: They failed miserably, Nancy. And here's the thing about it.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: She was never near brain death. Are you kidding me?
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: Give me a break. Because the uptake of the pentobarbital,
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: which has to be absorbed very slowly, if it goes
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: into the muscle, it's going to absorb quicker than if
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: it goes into the sub-Q fat. which none of those,
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: neither one of those is actually a vessel. So depending
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: upon where it actually wound up. Now what's happening is
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: this is a slow rollout, okay? So she's getting a
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: little bit of this 10 milligram dosage. It's a total
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: of 10 milligrams. The first application was five. The second
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: one was five, which is a redundant one. This is
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: a slow rollout if they're just doing this IM. She's
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: not getting the full force of that dosage into her veins,
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: that takes her out.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: To Dr.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Bethany Marshall, I want to hear your analysis of what's
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: happening now. Mike Jaffer is giving me an expert defense
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: attorney argument that she was, quote, almost brain dead. Thanks, Dr. Jaffer.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Joe Scott is explaining physiologically, physically what happened. But Dr.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Bethany Marshall, there is so much more with this woman.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Mad as hell. She beat the girl's brain open with
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: a chunk of asphalt and thought to grab a chunk
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: of the victim's skull and show it off. Mad as
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: hell does not equal almost brain dead. She's angry and
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: she's going to file a lawsuit.
• 38:12
  Speaker 11: She's angry and she's going to file a lawsuit.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: And you know what?
• 38:16
  Speaker 11: Who's responsible for that? The state. They had so many
• 38:19
  Speaker 11: opportunities to perfect the protocol. You know, Nancy, everybody is
• 38:23
  Speaker 11: calling this unprecedented. And as Joe Scott Morgan said, like
• 38:28
  Speaker 11: a miracle, it's not unprecedented. It was predictable. Her attorneys
• 38:34
  Speaker 11: went to court and predicted this would happen. And they
• 38:39
  Speaker 11: did not shore up their protocols. You know, groups sometimes
• 38:42
  Speaker 11: operate by their own moral code within their own group.
• 38:46
  Speaker 11: And they don't think about broader society. Whoever was in
• 38:49
  Speaker 11: charge of this protocol and hired these people to do
• 38:53
  Speaker 11: the execution, they were playing by their own moral code.
• 38:58
  Speaker 11: And that's just what happened when Krista Pike chased Colleen
• 39:03
  Speaker 11: Schlemmer into the woods, stripped her coat off, stripped her
• 39:07
  Speaker 11: clothing off, mocked her, beat her, crushed her skull, slashed
• 39:11
  Speaker 11: her back, slashed her throat. This little trio in the woods,
• 39:16
  Speaker 11: they were playing by their own moral code. Now we
• 39:19
  Speaker 11: see the state playing by its own moral code, that
• 39:24
  Speaker 11: you just treat a prisoner with disrespect. Well, maybe that's
• 39:28
  Speaker 11: okay on one level, but when you treat the prisoner
• 39:31
  Speaker 11: with disrespect, you treat the victim's families with disrespect. All
• 39:37
  Speaker 11: of a sudden, the person on death row, their death
• 39:41
  Speaker 11: row inmate, all of a sudden within minutes, they're now
• 39:44
  Speaker 11: a patient at a private hospital. And then they go
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  Speaker 11: back to death row. That's too much for the victim's family.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Somehow this whole thing has gone bass-ackwards, Dr. Bethany. I
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: think she should be thanking her lucky stars that she's
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: still alive and could be looking at a commutation. Instead, she's, quote,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: mad as hell and wants to sue for millions of dollars.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: To Tori Gessner, you heard Mike Jaffer blurt out, she's
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: almost brain dead. Okay, she was snoring.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: You heard her.
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  Speaker 2: That is not almost brain dead.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: And to be fair, Nancy, her legal team did describe
• 40:24
  Speaker 8: her as brain dead. One day on Monday, they were
• 40:27
  Speaker 8: about to pull the plug. And then Tuesday, she wakes up,
• 40:30
  Speaker 8: she's walking, then she's talking. Of course, now she's been
• 40:33
  Speaker 8: released from the hospital. She's back in prison where she
• 40:36
  Speaker 8: was before all this happened. But yeah, we talked to
• 40:39
  Speaker 8: some medical experts that dispute that claim that she was
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: brain dead. She was snoring. And eventually, once the curtains
• 40:46
  Speaker 8: closed for the final time, when We were all in
• 40:48
  Speaker 8: the witness chamber. She was consistently snoring, just sounded like
• 40:52
  Speaker 8: she was sleeping, really.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: She was just so bored with the whole thing, she
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: fell asleep. What's happening next, Tori?
• 40:59
  Speaker 8: Well, we know Governor Bill Lee has paused all executions
• 41:02
  Speaker 8: for the end of the year. There is a third
• 41:04
  Speaker 8: party review that is going to look into exactly what
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: went wrong here. No word on how long that could take.
• 41:12
  Speaker 8: And then a new governor is coming in in January.
• 41:15
  Speaker 8: Gubernatorial candidate Marsha Blackburn has actually called for the electric
• 41:19
  Speaker 8: chair to be brought back in Tennessee, even though it
• 41:21
  Speaker 8: is still technically legal as long as you've committed your
• 41:24
  Speaker 8: crime before 1999. But we'll just have to wait and see.
• 41:27
  Speaker 8: I mean, this could be a long process.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: We wait as justice unfolds. And we remember an American hero,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Deputy Sheriff Michael Hendricks, Charleston County Sheriff, South Carolina, killed
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: in the line of duty after just three years on
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: the force, leaving behind a wife, now widow, Kayla Hendricks.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: and three little boys, American hero Deputy Sheriff Michael Hendricks.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Thank you to our guests, but especially to you for
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: being with us tonight. Nancy Grace signing off, but I'll see.
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  Speaker 4: You tomorrow night.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: And until then, good night, friends.