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Trump & GOP reject calls for urgent AI regulation · THE DAILY BRIEF

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  Speaker 1: There is precedent for this. If you look at how
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  Speaker 1: banks are regulated, there's all kinds of rules about how
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  Speaker 1: banks are allowed to do their business because we don't
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  Speaker 1: want to have financial crises. And one of the things
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  Speaker 1: that are done in some cases is I think they're
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  Speaker 1: called supervisors in the financial industry, but they're folks who
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  Speaker 1: are independent of a company, who are embedded in the
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  Speaker 1: company day to day to check their practices. And I
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  Speaker 1: think we can do the.
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  Speaker 2: Same thing in AI.
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  Speaker 3: Elon Musk and Sam Alton from OpenAI, they are more
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  Speaker 3: or less backing this idea. But President Trump, not really.
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  Speaker 3: He's taking a hands-off approach, arguing the U.S. cannot afford
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  Speaker 3: to fall behind China in the AI race.
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  Speaker 4: I've said it from the beginning. Whoever wins AI, and
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  Speaker 4: we're leading by a lot, whoever wins AI wins. I'm
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  Speaker 4: But I would say, you know, for the most part,
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  Speaker 4: you can use AI for a lot of things.
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  Speaker 3: I want to get right to CNN's Kevin Liptak live
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  Speaker 3: at the White House this morning. To what extent does
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  Speaker 3: the White House see this as something they have to
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  Speaker 3: respond to based on really the incredible noise this weekend?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's becoming clearer and clearer to a
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  Speaker 5: lot of White House officials that this is going to
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  Speaker 5: be perhaps the most dominant issue that they will have
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  Speaker 5: to confront for the remainder of this year. That's even
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  Speaker 5: though President Trump seems to be in the full steam
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  Speaker 5: ahead camp of all this, really downplaying the need to
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  Speaker 5: put any kind of check by the administration on these
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  Speaker 5: AI companies. In fact, yesterday he said that warnings about
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  Speaker 5: some of the development were coming from, quote, negative forces
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  Speaker 5: that he didn't identify, even though some of those voices
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  Speaker 5: are now the leaders of the industry itself.
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  Speaker 6: You also heard from.
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  Speaker 5: David Sachs, who is the top AI advisor at the
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  Speaker 5: White House, really challenging some of what these industry leaders
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  Speaker 5: have said, saying that if they want to slow the
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  Speaker 5: pace of their own development, They are the ones who
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  Speaker 5: can do that. He said the easiest way not to
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  Speaker 5: build superintelligence is for you to agree not to build it. Now,
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  Speaker 5: in a lot of ways, that position and the president's
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  Speaker 5: position have really kind of isolated him, including from members
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  Speaker 5: of his own party, including from some senior White House
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  Speaker 5: officials who really do express concern. some unease at the
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  Speaker 5: president's unwillingness to talk about more regulations here. It certainly
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  Speaker 5: has opened up the president to attack from Democrats. They
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  Speaker 5: are really seizing upon this. In fact, the former President
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  Speaker 5: Barack Obama said at a private fundraiser last week that
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  Speaker 5: he thinks Democrats should put this issue front and center
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  Speaker 5: on the midterm campaign trail. this year, and you have
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  Speaker 5: seen some Democrats following suit, including the Democratic Senator John
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  Speaker 5: Ossoff from Georgia, who spoke about this last night. Listen
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  Speaker 5: to what he said.
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  Speaker 7: See, a capable president would move swiftly to secure and
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  Speaker 7: reassure the American people, rush inspectors into frontier labs, fortify
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  Speaker 7: the nation against bioterrorism, demand legislation from Congress, and lead
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  Speaker 7: the world toward an AI treaty. But President Trump has compromised.
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  Speaker 5: Now, despite the president's apparent lack of concern here, White
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  Speaker 5: House officials are plotting some next steps. We heard from
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  Speaker 5: Kevin Hassett, the top economist at the White House, who
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  Speaker 5: said that a meeting would likely take place with top
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  Speaker 5: cyber and tech officials here at the White House. You
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  Speaker 5: also heard Mike Johnson, the House speaker, say that he
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  Speaker 5: wanted to get the president and lawmakers and top industry
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  Speaker 5: officials involved. into the same room to try and determine
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  Speaker 5: how this would move forward. There is another very important
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  Speaker 5: date coming up on this, which is the president's meeting
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  Speaker 5: with Xi Jinping from China. That will take place here
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  Speaker 5: at the White House next week. It is expected that
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  Speaker 5: AI will be a subject of discussion. But at the
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  Speaker 5: two men's last meeting back in May, they were unable
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  Speaker 5: to come up with any kind of agreement. So this
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  Speaker 5: is certainly, I think, going to test Washington's ability. But obviously,
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  Speaker 5: right now, there is no consensus on what to do
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  Speaker 5: or even whether to do anything going forward. And I
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  Speaker 5: think it's important to note this does seem like it's
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  Speaker 5: an issue that many people in Washington just don't understand
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  Speaker 5: in a full sort of scope of what they're dealing
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  Speaker 5: with here.
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  Speaker 6: Do you think AI as it is right now poses
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  Speaker 6: an existential threat? And are you going to heed their request?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Jay, great to be with you. We are heeding
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  Speaker 2: their request, and we are also calling upon them to
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  Speaker 2: do responsible things. And let me explain that. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I've been speaker for almost three years. We started working
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  Speaker 2: on this almost immediately after I was handed the gavel.
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  Speaker 2: One of the first things I did was put together
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  Speaker 2: an AI task force in the House, a bipartisan group
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  Speaker 2: with an equal number of members on both sides of
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  Speaker 2: the aisle that worked deliberately over a long period of
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  Speaker 2: time to debate and deliberate and research what the best
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  Speaker 2: way there is to go to put guardrails, some safety
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  Speaker 2: in place to make sure that AI doesn't get out
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  Speaker 2: of control. Now, here's the thing. At the same time,
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  Speaker 2: there is an obvious corporate responsibility that the people who
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  Speaker 2: are creating these models have to ensure that their products
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  Speaker 2: are safe. I commend to your reading, David Sachs, who
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  Speaker 2: is the AI czar in the Trump White House in
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  Speaker 2: this term, put out a great post last night on X,
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  Speaker 2: and he explained, look, The guys that are calling for
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  Speaker 2: this are the ones that are pushing the frontier. If
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  Speaker 2: they want to slow that down, that's fine. But we
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  Speaker 2: also at the same time have to resist Congress jumping
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  Speaker 2: in and imposing some sort of emergency moratorium. It's got
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  Speaker 2: to be done right, safely, wisely. But in order to
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  Speaker 2: solve that equation, you need a lot of bright minds
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  Speaker 2: around the table. So, Jake, here's what I'm proposing. I
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  Speaker 2: think the leaders and the providers of all these platforms,
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  Speaker 2: the guys you named and a few others, there's about
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  Speaker 2: seven or eight people who are in charge of this.
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  Speaker 2: They need to come together in a meeting with us
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  Speaker 2: and sit down and figure out what the right balance is.
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  Speaker 2: We cannot put a moratorium on this because China will
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  Speaker 2: overlap us. And that's the challenge. It's national security balanced
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  Speaker 2: with the immediate security of making sure the models are safe.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, but they're calling for that to happen as soon
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  Speaker 6: as possible. They're conveying this urgency. They're conveying fears. They
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  Speaker 6: want a consistent set of rules of the road for everyone.
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  Speaker 6: So when are you going to invite these moguls, these
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  Speaker 6: AI experts to Washington. I mean, it sounds to me
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  Speaker 6: like they would come tomorrow or Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Jake, here's the problem. I've been meeting with
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  Speaker 2: all of them individually since I became speaker. I mean, regularly,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I've visited with all these guys. The problem
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  Speaker 2: is they all have a different prescription on what they
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  Speaker 2: say the regulation is supposed to be. The problem is
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  Speaker 2: they're all competitors. Each one of them wants to maintain
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  Speaker 2: an edge over the others. What David Sachs is saying
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  Speaker 2: in his post that was just published late last night
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  Speaker 2: is that they need to take personal responsibility first. And
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  Speaker 2: we need to get them all in a room at
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  Speaker 2: the same time and agree on what the guardrails are.
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  Speaker 2: That's the only way to do this. If Congress just
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  Speaker 2: races in and does some sort of emergency session to
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  Speaker 2: try to regulate AI, we will lose the race to China.
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  Speaker 2: And that is a threat to every single American. So
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  Speaker 2: we've got to have balance. We've got to have steady
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  Speaker 2: hands at the wheel. I'm one of the ones calling
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  Speaker 2: for the summoning of this meeting, and I will be
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  Speaker 2: pushing that myself. Because it is a top priority. But
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  Speaker 2: we don't need everybody to panic right now. We need
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  Speaker 2: to handle this new technology like we have others in
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  Speaker 2: the past and make sure we're doing everything we can
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  Speaker 2: responsibly to also not smother American innovation. We have to
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  Speaker 2: do both things simultaneously.
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  Speaker 6: I promise you nobody's going to accuse Congress of racing
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  Speaker 6: to do anything about AI. We've been covering this for years.
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  Speaker 6: And I just promise you that's not going to happen.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, one of the things that's so terrifying is
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  Speaker 6: in July, open AI technicians said, were shocked to find
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  Speaker 6: out that their AI agents, these bots or whatever, were
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  Speaker 6: communicating secretly with each other and plotting an attack on
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  Speaker 6: a different AI platform called Hugging Face. This is why
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  Speaker 6: Amadei wrote in his letter, quote, left unchecked, AI could
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  Speaker 6: outrun our ability to understand and control these systems and
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  Speaker 6: so must be pursued very carefully, if at all. Some
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  Speaker 6: of the ideas being floated include a federal kill switch.
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  Speaker 6: The creation of a federal AI regulatory agency, mandatory government
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  Speaker 6: approval of frontier AI models before they're released. Is there
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  Speaker 6: any of that that you think that you could possibly support?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe all of it. And those are great ideas. But
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  Speaker 2: if you compare this to the other big technological advances
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  Speaker 2: like nuclear power and nuclear war and all of that,
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  Speaker 2: nuclear bombs, It took decades to put together all the
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  Speaker 2: oversight and regulatory boards and the international partnerships and all
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  Speaker 2: of that. We don't have that much time here. So
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  Speaker 2: there is a sense of urgency about it. We are
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  Speaker 2: looking at it carefully, and we have been. And Congress
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  Speaker 2: is a deliberative body, Jake. You know it takes a
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  Speaker 2: while to do that, and Congress needs to catch up.
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  Speaker 2: But the problem is, I'm telling you again, the guys
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  Speaker 2: who are raising the alarms right now all have very
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  Speaker 2: different ideas on what the guardrails should be. There's no
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  Speaker 2: consensus among them. And Congress is obviously less qualified than
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  Speaker 2: the people who are pushing this frontier to know all
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  Speaker 2: the ins and outs of it. So this has to
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  Speaker 2: be a partnership with the industry itself, with the corporations
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  Speaker 2: that are doing this, and with the policy and lawmakers.
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  Speaker 2: And that's a very complex thing to resolve. If we
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  Speaker 2: overstep it, I'm telling you again, Jake, it could be
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  Speaker 2: a national security threat for every American. So we have
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  Speaker 2: threats in both sides of this. And we've got to
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  Speaker 2: do this in a very thoughtful, deliberate way. And we
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  Speaker 2: have to do it with urgency. And I'm committed to
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  Speaker 2: that as everybody else is.
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  Speaker 6: Well, how urgent? I mean, do you want this meeting
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  Speaker 6: to take place this week?
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  Speaker 1: I'd do it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd do it tomorrow. We've got to summon everybody together.
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  Speaker 2: I've talked to the president about this as well. They
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  Speaker 2: probably should be summoned together at the White House. And
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  Speaker 2: I think we need to go in a big room,
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  Speaker 2: close the door and sort this out. And I'll be
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  Speaker 2: the one pushing it, forcing it, because I know all
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  Speaker 2: these guys are Again, I've talked with them. They've expressed
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  Speaker 2: their concerns. And I always say to them, you have
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  Speaker 2: to do your part. Of course, you have a corporate
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  Speaker 2: responsibility to make sure your products are safe. And they're
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  Speaker 2: the ones pushing the envelope. And for them to cry
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  Speaker 2: out for us to stop it, you know, this is
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  Speaker 2: a partnership. They've got to be responsible on their own side.