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Happy Hour #41: Brave Noise · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Danny and Samantha and welcome to stuff
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  Speaker 1: I never told your protection of I Heeart Radio. And
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  Speaker 1: today we're going to do a quick follow up slash
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  Speaker 1: check up, however you want to call it, on something
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  Speaker 1: we addressed a while ago in a Monday Mini. We
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  Speaker 1: wanted to do a short to follow up on the
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  Speaker 1: me too movement that was happening in the brewing world.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, before we start, I am going to open
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  Speaker 1: my beer, which we're gonna talk about in just a minute.
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  Speaker 1: It's called Brave Noise, and I'm going to open it
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  Speaker 1: because I don't think I've done an a S m
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  Speaker 1: R thing in a minute. Okay, So here we go.
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  Speaker 1: I'm opening it. And then I've also got my pretty glass.
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  Speaker 1: Do you see this? Uh? In celebration because this was
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  Speaker 1: actually from Orpheus and we'll talk about that in a
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  Speaker 1: minute too, and it's their anniversary dimmed glass. I felt
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  Speaker 1: like it was appropriate. I can't find my pint glass.
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  Speaker 1: I think my partner has it. Here we go offroably.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like that needs I know, and then supportes
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  Speaker 1: nice poor thank you. I know how to pour a beer.
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  Speaker 1: I know that is something I definitely have learned from Orpheus.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so yes, um, And because we love celebrating
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  Speaker 1: women coming together to make change, we wanted to highlight
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  Speaker 1: a specific brewing project again that is titled Brave Noise,
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  Speaker 1: as I said, and it is a fantastic collaboration happening
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  Speaker 1: in several breweries around the country and beyond. It's a
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  Speaker 1: global thing and we are excited to get to have
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  Speaker 1: a moment in drinking this. It's been a minute because
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  Speaker 1: I got it a few weeks ago and I had
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  Speaker 1: to save this one last one from my cup that
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  Speaker 1: I bought. Again, we are not sponsored. Just to that
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  Speaker 1: out there, we are also going to tell you drink
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  Speaker 1: responsibly and whatever you're drinking, whether it's caffeine, alcohol, you
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  Speaker 1: could have too much water to right, that's the thing
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  Speaker 1: you can. It's very difficult to do. I have a
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  Speaker 1: whole story about this, but yes you can. Of course
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  Speaker 1: you do. But just overall, chink responsibly. Um. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So we've been holding onto these so that we could
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  Speaker 1: do an episode and I'm very excited to start this.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah and cheers, yeah, and cheers love it, um.
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  Speaker 1: So yes. Brave Noise came out of the viral movement
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  Speaker 1: where brewer Byanne Alan asked on her Instagram, have you
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  Speaker 1: ever experienced sexism in the beer industry? And the answers
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  Speaker 1: were astounding with stories from all over the world that
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  Speaker 1: not only called out sexism, but the overall abuse and
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  Speaker 1: dark nature of the industry that has been ignored for
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  Speaker 1: so long. And I think we're still seeing these like
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  Speaker 1: pop up um still going on. It went bigger than
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  Speaker 1: anyone expect, did an Alan friends when a step further
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  Speaker 1: and taking action, not only calling out the stories but
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  Speaker 1: pushing into bringing attention with a new brew that would
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  Speaker 1: be a project which would allow for breweries to participate
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  Speaker 1: on a local level, and as Alan stated, the Brave
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  Speaker 1: Noise collaboration is meant to provide awareness and create action
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  Speaker 1: for safe and inclusive environments in the beer industry. So
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  Speaker 1: today we are drinking the Orpheous Brewing's own version of
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  Speaker 1: Brave Noise, which is not only for show, but with
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  Speaker 1: one of the proceeds going to Safe Bars h Q,
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  Speaker 1: which helps provide training for harassment and abuse intervention for
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  Speaker 1: local bartenders and also teaches understanding of the overall misogyny
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  Speaker 1: and how to spot a problematic situation. Right. So, um,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk a little bit about the standards in
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  Speaker 1: a second, But essentially they had this very big idea
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  Speaker 1: uh Day, being Alan and her friend who created this
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  Speaker 1: at Notch Brewing, that they wanted a movement kind of
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  Speaker 1: like similar to the Blackest Beautiful campaign, in which during
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  Speaker 1: the time that we were talking about and we should
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  Speaker 1: still be talking about, but it was a bigger moment
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  Speaker 1: with the many deaths that was happening across the US
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  Speaker 1: against the black community and just overall the nature of
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  Speaker 1: pretty much hate crimes against the black community and trying
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  Speaker 1: to come together as an industry. However, some of that
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  Speaker 1: actually really failed pretty hard. Black is Beautiful, though it
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  Speaker 1: was a really great campaign, a lot of the brewers,
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  Speaker 1: I would say, we're just doing this as a show
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  Speaker 1: and instead of actually supporting what it was. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of the breweries because just recently through this campaign, the
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  Speaker 1: tell Me Your Experience campaign, essentially we're called out for
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  Speaker 1: their racism and those are the same damn breweries that
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  Speaker 1: we're doing this little campaign to try to look like
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  Speaker 1: they were pushing forward, and y'all, it's really hard to
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  Speaker 1: spot it sometimes, but there's been a lot of conversations
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  Speaker 1: about specific problematic breweries. I will say some locations were
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  Speaker 1: hit harder as in like more people were willing to
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  Speaker 1: come out than other. But that is something that needs
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  Speaker 1: to be addressed as well. But they took this type
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  Speaker 1: of campaign, like we don't take it one step further
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  Speaker 1: to ensure that that stuff does not happen, the fake
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  Speaker 1: ally ship does not happen. And I think they've done
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  Speaker 1: a pretty good job on that. As in fact, Jim Blair,
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  Speaker 1: who currently lives in Atlanta, so local to us, who
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  Speaker 1: is an advanced as hearone and working towards getting her masters,
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  Speaker 1: like she is legitimately all up there in the brewing
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  Speaker 1: world and is an expert by every means uh, and
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  Speaker 1: several of the women of Orpheus, where I used to
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  Speaker 1: work at I came together to brew this beer, and Gin,
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  Speaker 1: being an experienced home brewer, helped create this version of
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  Speaker 1: Brave Noise. So if you've heard about this beer again,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, it's gone internationally, there's different variations and
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  Speaker 1: different collaborations and different breweries who are doing it and
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  Speaker 1: hopping on board. Not as many as I think should be,
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  Speaker 1: but several out there. Again, So this one that we
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  Speaker 1: have specifically is a pale l with a four point
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  Speaker 1: five a b v um and Jen has been a
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  Speaker 1: big part of this movement and if you want to
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  Speaker 1: follow her, she is on most of the social media
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  Speaker 1: as under the gin fluence. Yeah you get it, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: love that one under the gin fluence. So you should
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  Speaker 1: definitely look her up. And she has been working to
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  Speaker 1: change the industry within as In fact, she came out
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  Speaker 1: with a pretty big story and one of the big
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  Speaker 1: breweries here in Atlanta and called them out and brought
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  Speaker 1: a big change to that. I don't know, they have
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  Speaker 1: not really done much to show that they're changing, but
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  Speaker 1: I will say it has affected their seals a little
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  Speaker 1: bit and trying to revamp their image. I think we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: But they lost their head chef as well, who was
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  Speaker 1: a woman chef, as she was like lgbt Q, a
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  Speaker 1: woman chef, and she was like I'm done, can't be here.
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  Speaker 1: And then Jen was there for a while and she
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  Speaker 1: was like I can't be here either, and had this
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  Speaker 1: moment of like, hey, let's call this out for what
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  Speaker 1: it is, which is what made her move over to
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  Speaker 1: Orpheus and and kind of going to work out some
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  Speaker 1: of the things in the industry. So not giving up
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  Speaker 1: on the industry, which I know too often happens specifically
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  Speaker 1: with women of color, specifically in the LGBTQ community, like
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  Speaker 1: they just give up on something they love because they
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  Speaker 1: they're so tainted by what is happening in that industry.
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  Speaker 1: But Jen is trying to really put a lot of
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  Speaker 1: effort and changing the industry as a whole, coming to
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  Speaker 1: the table, being at the table first and foremost, and
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  Speaker 1: being a part of the conversation. And yeah, it has
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  Speaker 1: been very open about her own experiences and how she's
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  Speaker 1: been fighting to be included, acknowledged and accredited with her
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  Speaker 1: work within the industry. And she's, like I said, she
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  Speaker 1: has been out and about and its recently really be busy.
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  Speaker 1: Like if you come to see her stuff, she's like
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  Speaker 1: out and about judging beers, going to different festivals, having
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  Speaker 1: conversations and changing policies. And I can say just sitting
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  Speaker 1: down and talking with her can make you want to
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  Speaker 1: know more about the details and the beauty of beer.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm missing a little bit. I missed that
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  Speaker 1: industry because we would talk about the background and the
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  Speaker 1: nuances of brewing in general, and she knows our stuff
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  Speaker 1: from everything from she educates people on the tasting nose,
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  Speaker 1: to the quality, to how it's brewed. Like she is,
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you the one to know if you want
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  Speaker 1: to know about these beers. Okay, if you are wanting
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  Speaker 1: to do this collab or you want to encourage your
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  Speaker 1: favorite brewery to get involved. Here are some of the guidelines.
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  Speaker 1: The breweries will quote need to submit their code of
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  Speaker 1: conduct publicly, post their code of conduct and resources available
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  Speaker 1: for staff and customers via their website. Here are code
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  Speaker 1: and or signage at their physical location. Commit to the
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  Speaker 1: long term work and donate one the proceeds to a
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  Speaker 1: verified nonprofit right. So if you want to follow in
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  Speaker 1: bolden act advance on Instagram, they have a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the guy lines and they actually took over for Brianne
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  Speaker 1: her own size because she was so overwhelmed with all
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  Speaker 1: the stories that she kind of handed it over saying
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  Speaker 1: I don't have the time to a give this the
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  Speaker 1: attention that they deserve, be verify some of the situations
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  Speaker 1: that are being said, and see really be able to
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  Speaker 1: focus on that and my current job. So there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of stuff happening. But that is the new Instagram,
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  Speaker 1: new Ish Instagram. After it blew up so big. Uh
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  Speaker 1: And if you want to follow along with what's happening
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  Speaker 1: with Brave Noise, what's happening in the industry, they keep
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  Speaker 1: giving some accountability testimonies as well, So a lot of
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  Speaker 1: good things that are happening in events. I think you
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  Speaker 1: also should follow again under the Influence because she also
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  Speaker 1: does a lot of the stuff and talks about a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the things that are happening, especially when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to fighting against the sexism, the harassment, and just
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  Speaker 1: the overall you know, gross nature that can come in
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  Speaker 1: this industry and that has been so long allowed in
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  Speaker 1: this industry, and now people are calling it out. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: when I'm looking at the stories, I don't see too
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  Speaker 1: many follow ups. I do see a few things. So
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  Speaker 1: some of the follow ups I've seen in the industry,
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  Speaker 1: they have called it out CEO stepping down, brewers being fired.
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  Speaker 1: But as we quickly know, when things dismiss and people
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  Speaker 1: slowly start out paying attention, sometimes it just comes back
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  Speaker 1: to the old ways unfortunately. Uh So it's very important
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  Speaker 1: that we do stay active and hold people accountable. And
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  Speaker 1: I do think like places like so. L Wive is
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  Speaker 1: located in Jacksonville, Florida went to visit them fun house.
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  Speaker 1: They offer so many beers and they're so great. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: They made it a point to make sure that they
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  Speaker 1: did not allow for some of these breweries that were
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  Speaker 1: being called out and and we're being verified that this
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  Speaker 1: is a bad thing or a bad environment, they will
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  Speaker 1: not allow them to be in their stores. So I
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  Speaker 1: love that. I've seen festivals being called out. So therefore
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  Speaker 1: they're dropping uh sponsors because of that situation. So there
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  Speaker 1: are a few changes that have happened. I know at
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  Speaker 1: I heart, we actually the problematic brewery here in Atlanta
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  Speaker 1: was considered for an event and we were like, nope, nope, nope,
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  Speaker 1: let me tell you what happened. And so yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: kind of not that they know, they don't know that
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  Speaker 1: we did this, but we did not want to give
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  Speaker 1: money to something that was so problematic in our community,
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  Speaker 1: that was purposeful for us, and that we knew about it.
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  Speaker 1: Not everyone does, so we made sure to let that
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  Speaker 1: be known, you know, just telling the story, just letting
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  Speaker 1: them know what's happening and letting them see the bigger picture.
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  Speaker 1: But like I said, it is a slow coming, and
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  Speaker 1: I do think things like this beer, which is a
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  Speaker 1: tasty beer. By the way, it's very tasty beer, bringing
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  Speaker 1: more attention to it. And I know there's so many
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  Speaker 1: of y'all out there who love beer and love the
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  Speaker 1: science and the beauty of what beer is and how
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  Speaker 1: it can be. So yeah, push forward. Let them know.
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  Speaker 1: Let your brewers know what's happening and see if they're
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  Speaker 1: willing to take on this project that does call out
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  Speaker 1: such a big problem in the industry. So and tell us.
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  Speaker 1: Let us know if that's happening in your area. I
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  Speaker 1: of women homebrewers. I have to say that they are
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