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- 0:03This is the Horse Human Connection.
- 0:06A captivating podcast where we extend into the world of equine assisted learning.
- 0:11Horse Training.
- 0:12and gentleness in working with these magnificent creatures.
- 0:18Captivating stories from the leading professionals and ordinary people alike unravel novel ideas in being with horses.
- 0:26The horse human connection is an idea, a place, and a voice.
- 0:32The idea is to support the quiet revolution and recognize the intelligence and true nature of the horse.
- 0:40The place is a destination farm near the Umpqua Forest and River that slows down visitors and patrons enough to experience the shift.
- 0:49The Voice is this podcast.
- 0:52Welcome to today's episode.
- 1:04MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Good morning.
- 1:05MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: This is issue able with the horse human connection matrix.
- 1:09MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Part of this matrix is the rest of wildlife.
- 1:13MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: A couple of weeks ago, I did an episode about being in right relationship, not just with people, but with earth and with plants.
- 1:20MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And today I want to talk about some of that right.
- 1:23MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Relationship with animals and hunting.
- 1:26MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I'm going to tell you a couple of stories that were told to me by an old friend.
- 1:31MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I'm going to tell you some of my opinions.
- 1:34MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I grew up in the city.
- 1:36MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: You mentioned that maybe at some point.
- 1:38MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: So when I moved to Oregon, And had more opportunities to be in wildlife and spend outside and in the forest.
- 1:46MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And notice things.
- 1:47MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I took full advantage of that.
- 1:49MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And one of the things that I noticed was all the dead deer on the side of the road, especially in the fall.
- 1:56MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And when I, when I first moved here, I had to reckon with a lot of different things and shifting beliefs and, and seeing things differently.
- 2:05MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: It's one thing to hear about stuff when you live in the city.
- 2:09MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And it's another thing to experience living in a rural county.
- 2:13MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And.
- 2:15MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: The ideas that people have and the differences.
- 2:20MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: This friend told me in a conversation that.
- 2:23MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: She had her husband, who is a hunter had told her that there were 3000 control hunt, dope permits issued for our area of town.
- 2:33MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And it's not even a city, it's just an area of town.
- 2:37MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And that blew my mind.
- 2:38MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I was like, wow, no wonder.
- 2:40MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: There are so many deer on the side of the road.
- 2:42MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And I started thinking about the food and, and the competition and the.
- 2:47MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: The cougars and the bears that hunt the deer.
- 2:49MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And it was just, my mind was suddenly in a completely different place.
- 2:56MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: So I also started noticing that spring when I rode my bike.
- 3:01MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: The bones on the side of the road, where the deer had been, and even the lines of powder where the bones had become powder after being there for so long and how the.
- 3:12MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Turkey vultures come in and clean up the mess and how, when you drive by it, it does stink as, as it's rotting before they finish their job.
- 3:22MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: So, you know, we're all kind of.
- 3:26MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Predisposed to the Bambi thing.
- 3:28MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: At least most of us in my generation were, and, you know, oh, poor Bambi.
- 3:33MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: His mother died and you know, the evil hunters you know, there, there's some validity to that story that, you know, there's also another story of people that needed to hunt that people who.
- 3:45MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Grew up in a place where.
- 3:48MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Hunting supplemented their groceries, like in a serious way that they needed it.
- 3:53MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I'm trying to say is there's this full gambit of people's ideas and some of them very strongly opinioned about hunting.
- 4:03MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And I just want to talk about that because we all have our own relationship with each other, with the earth.
- 4:10MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And certainly our judgments, our practices and our beliefs are part of that.
- 4:15MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Now, this friend of mine, this old friend of mine, we're not going to mention names or we'd have to change the names to protect the innocent and almost innocence in these cases.
- 4:24MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: But I'd read some about native Americans and I'd read about when they are successful at a hunt that they put grass in the animal's mouth, if it's a grass seeder, which most of what you're hunting is.
- 4:36MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And say a prayer, you know, that this animal is giving its life so that we can have life so that we can continue.
- 4:44MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And the, the spiritual aspect of that is important.
- 4:48MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: It's important.
- 4:49MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: If you're going to take a life.
- 4:51MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: To eat.
- 4:53MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: That you acknowledge it.
- 4:54MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And I think that's why people pray over their food.
- 4:56MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Right.
- 4:57MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: We're acknowledging gratitude for our place in.
- 5:02MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: The circle of life and.
- 5:05MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: When we buy meat at the grocery store, we're so far removed from the trauma, the killing the process, the emotions that might be present that go into that.
- 5:15MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I think everybody that's going to eat meat should experience a hunt and a kill.
- 5:19MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: At least if they're not killing, at least being near the process.
- 5:24MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Because it brings reverence.
- 5:27MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: You know, it brings front center in your face that yeah, this animal is dying so that I can have.
- 5:33MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Animal protein.
- 5:36MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And that's important.
- 5:38MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And I know that there's some vegetarians.
- 5:40MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I recently am.
- 5:41MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Much more vegetarian than I've ever been.
- 5:44MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I only eat meat about once a week.
- 5:47MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I'm I'm enjoying on Facebook.
- 5:50MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: These.
- 5:52MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: These clips of some people are, are hooking up.
- 5:57MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Microphones with electrodes to different plants where you can hear their songs.
- 6:03MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And how they sing.
- 6:04MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And I've always known that.
- 6:06MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: That plants and trees and all living things communicate.
- 6:09MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: If you're a vegetarian because your body doesn't need meat or because it makes more sense for your grocery bill or your culinary skills.
- 6:17MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Like that's great.
- 6:18MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: But if you're a vegetarian, because.
- 6:22MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Of poor little Bambi.
- 6:24MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I'm sorry, but you're prejudice because the plants have feelings and voices too.
- 6:30MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And my point is that whatever we eat, but we're all here.
- 6:34MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: The animals, the plants, the people, we all have to eat something.
- 6:40MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: So let's just be reverent about our place.
- 6:44MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And being humans, there's nothing that's really eating us.
- 6:47MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: So that puts us in a different position.
- 6:51MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: But I don't believe that deer.
- 6:56MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: On one hand mind because they know.
- 7:00MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: The ones that are hunted with reverence?
- 7:02MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: No.
- 7:03MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: That they're part of.
- 7:05MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And I think going back to my interview with Rupert Isaacson, you know, he talks about hunters and gatherers.
- 7:11MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And the spiritual aspect of that and calling in a deer.
- 7:17MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I believe anybody can call in a deer.
- 7:19MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: If, if you have the right heart.
- 7:21MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And if you put.
- 7:23MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Enough meditation into it.
- 7:26MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And that's what occurred to me.
- 7:27MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: That was what other day watching these hunters was, is like, And I'm sorry, but a lot of times it just seems like people are doing it wrong.
- 7:35MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And I think that's part of my personality and part of the autism.
- 7:40MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: We get to thinking that there's one way.
- 7:44MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And they call it black and white thinking.
- 7:45MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I'm not a black and white thinker on every regard, but a lot of things strike me, but oh, that doesn't seem right.
- 7:53MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And a lot of hunting practices don't seem right.
- 7:56MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Being in right relationship with the animals you're hunting.
- 7:59MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Seems more right.
- 8:01MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Maybe I can put it that way.
- 8:02MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: It seems more right.
- 8:04MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: So dear will.
- 8:06MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Circle back the way a horse will circle back.
- 8:10MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I don't know if I talked about the Monte.
- 8:12MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I don't think I've actually talked about the Monte Robert's story, because I think everybody that has a horse knows who Monty Roberts was and what he did.
- 8:18MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: But I still like to tell the story.
- 8:21MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And I'll tell it later, but part of that Monte Robert's horse training story and learning the language of Equis.
- 8:27MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Is that they circle back.
- 8:30MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: They're afraid they'll run a quarter mile and they circle back and we can use that.
- 8:35MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: In their behavior.
- 8:36MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And in manipulating and training horses.
- 8:41MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: The same thing is true of deer.
- 8:43MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: My friend whose husband was a hunter.
- 8:46MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Told me about that, reading it in a magazine.
- 8:49MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: At hunting magazine that they will circle back.
- 8:52MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And in my mind, most hunters know this, but maybe, maybe they don't.
- 8:57MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Maybe they don't know that a few scare of deer they'll circle back and see if there's still trouble.
- 9:03MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: That's how a lot of hunters.
- 9:06MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Ambush it on the return round.
- 9:10MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: So this woman.
- 9:11MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: There was a friend of mine.
- 9:13MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: She told me these stories from her husband, right.
- 9:16MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And they were crazy.
- 9:18MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And I said, no, we're not talking about names because.
- 9:21MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: We're protecting the, almost innocent here and here.
- 9:23MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I'm talking about what's right and wrong and people needing food.
- 9:27MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And there are different belief systems.
- 9:29MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: So I think at some points.
- 9:32MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And this man didn't follow all their rules.
- 9:35MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: But in a way.
- 9:38MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: He, even the chances for the deer and in a way I think he approached it with great, great reverence.
- 9:46MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: So there's one story where.
- 9:49MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: He and his buddy were hunting and they got a deer.
- 9:53MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And there wasn't a whole lot of blood.
- 9:55MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: It was rather curious.
- 9:56MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: It was a smaller deer.
- 9:57MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: They put it in the back of the pickup and the pickup had a shell and the shell had a window to the cab and the window to the cab was open.
- 10:04MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: So they're driving home.
- 10:06MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: With this dead deer in the back.
- 10:08MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And suddenly.
- 10:10MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And it didn't have antlers and suddenly there's a little face in between them.
- 10:16MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And the deer wasn't dead.
- 10:18MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: It had only been grazed in, in shock.
- 10:22MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: So it got up and stuck.
- 10:23MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: It's a little ahead.
- 10:24MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And through the window, right between them.
- 10:26MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: These guys.
- 10:28MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: So surprised.
- 10:31MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And, you know, there's a lot of ways that story could have gone, right.
- 10:35MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: They could have.
- 10:36MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: They could have stopped and opened up the back and let the thing out.
- 10:41MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: They could have had a conversation with it.
- 10:45MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I'm sure that didn't occur to them.
- 10:47MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Or they could have done what they did and they opened up the back and they ended it for the creature.
- 10:54MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I really like it when people kill a deer.
- 10:57MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And they're reverent and they put grass in the animal's mouth and they say a prayer and they acknowledged their place.
- 11:04MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: There's another story that she told me.
- 11:07MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Where her husband had shot a deer thought that it was down.
- 11:11MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And when he came upon it to cut the throat, the thing got up and this one had antlers and he grabbed the antler.
- 11:19MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: With knife in one hand antler in the other.
- 11:22MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And they went around in circles like serious circles.
- 11:26MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Like this was a big strong man.
- 11:28MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Until finally the hunter prevailed, but.
- 11:32MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: When I think about the story, it's comical, they're both comical, but there's an element of.
- 11:40MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Of of play.
- 11:43MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Not necessarily completely fair play, but.
- 11:48MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Of competition, maybe that's the best word of a competition in a way.
- 11:53MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: That makes it better.
- 11:55MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I had the opportunity to talk to this hunter man at one point.
- 11:58MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: He told me, I asked him questions about what he did and while he was laying there.
- 12:03MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: In the pre-dawn on the damp earth.
- 12:07MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Waiting for the deer.
- 12:10MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: He was becoming part of the forest.
- 12:12MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Like he really embraced his cammo.
- 12:15MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And.
- 12:18MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Did the fade.
- 12:20MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: You know, and at that point when you make it a meditation and you do this fade into.
- 12:27MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: The landscape into the earth.
- 12:30MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Into your place as a hunter on the earth.
- 12:36MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: The joining that happens.
- 12:39MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I think is what brings the deer.
- 12:41MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And he may have called to them.
- 12:43MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I don't know.
- 12:44MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Like I say, he had some native blood.
- 12:46MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: It's that attitude it's like when you're fishing and you're like, okay, there's a fish, there's a fish under there somewhere.
- 12:52MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Come on, fish, bite my hook, bite the worm on my hook so I can catch you.
- 12:55MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Come on fish.
- 12:56MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Where's the fish.
- 12:58MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: It's it's a competition in a way that is entitled.
- 13:02MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Like fish.
- 13:03MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: You need to jump on my hook versus.
- 13:06MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I'm hungry.
- 13:08MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And part of this earth it's time for me to eat.
- 13:11MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Could I have a sacrifice.
- 13:15MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Could an animal, a fish or a deer.
- 13:19MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Be my sacrifice so that I may thrive.
- 13:25MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: There's a big difference.
- 13:26MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: It's not an entitlement.
- 13:28MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: It's.
- 13:30MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: It's an asking.
- 13:31MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: It's a.
- 13:33MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: It's a respectful request.
- 13:37MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And I think that's what the difference is.
- 13:38MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And I think that's what people lose sight of.
- 13:40MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: They.
- 13:41MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: The trophy hunters.
- 13:43MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: The people training kids.
- 13:45MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: This is what I saw.
- 13:46MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: All right.
- 13:46MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: There's a place I hike.
- 13:48MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And I saw and hunters can hunt there too.
- 13:52MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And I saw this family and this was early in the fall and it was hot.
- 13:55MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: You could tell they'd been out there a while because they were like bundled up, but it's like 70 degrees.
- 14:01MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And this little kid, his chubby little kid is like really red cheeks and he's.
- 14:06MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Got all this gear on.
- 14:08MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And the backpack and the Kemo coat and he's running after the men.
- 14:15MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And none of them look very happy.
- 14:18MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And.
- 14:19MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: You know, either they'd been out there too long or they started at the wrong time or whatever, but it's very rare here just going to shoot him a deer in the middle.
- 14:28MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: You know, Trump and down the trail, the three of you in the middle of a sunny afternoon, when it's 70 degrees out where other people are hiking, like that's probably not going to happen.
- 14:37MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: You're way smarter than that.
- 14:39MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: But it's also the attitude that struck me, like.
- 14:44MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I don't know.
- 14:45MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I don't know for sure what the attitude was, but.
- 14:50MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: None of them looked happy.
- 14:51MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: None of them looked purposeful.
- 14:52MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: None of them looked reverent.
- 14:55MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And when people are successful by some means in a hunt like that.
- 15:00MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And there's this big trophy thing.
- 15:05MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And they don't even use the meat.
- 15:07MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I don't know the word for it.
- 15:09MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Irreverent doesn't cover it.
- 15:12MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: But there are people at home like that they hunt for the trophy, not for the meat.
- 15:16MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: If you're hunting with your heart and you're hunting for the meat.
- 15:21MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And you bless the meat.
- 15:24MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Then I bless your hunting.
- 15:26MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Well, I just think zooming out and looking at the big picture though.
- 15:30MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: You know what safe way at the very end of the meat section, where they put all the stuff that doesn't sell.
- 15:39MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And if it doesn't sell that day, it goes out in the bin.
- 15:43MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: That's your reference.
- 15:45MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: A lot of animals died.
- 15:49MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: To have their flesh rotting in a garbage bin, not even feeding the vultures, that's just so wrong.
- 15:55MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: So, so wrong.
- 15:56MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I don't have an answer.
- 15:57MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: But I certainly have that observation and I have that judgment and I have that opinion and I'll own it.
- 16:03MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Another like little pet peeve of mine is.
- 16:06MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I was.
- 16:08MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I was following a truck the other day.
- 16:12MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And.
- 16:13MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: It hit a deer.
- 16:15MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And I watched the deer writhing on the side of the road as I drove by.
- 16:20MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And I thought to stop and put it out of its misery, but I was really angry that this person didn't stop.
- 16:26MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And so I chased him down, flashing my lights.
- 16:28MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And I pulled him over and I said, are you going to go finish that deer?
- 16:32MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Or do I have to do it?
- 16:35MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I had a sharp enough pocket knife that I could have.
- 16:38MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: But you don't leave an animal to suffer.
- 16:42MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: You wouldn't leave a dog to suffer.
- 16:45MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: At least, I hope you wouldn't.
- 16:47MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And you shouldn't leave a deer to suffer on the side of the road.
- 16:51MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Yeah, I guess.
- 16:53MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: I guess I made the assumption that where I live most men of a certain age.
- 16:58MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And the drive.
- 17:00MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Maybe a type of truck.
- 17:02MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Or at least going to have.
- 17:04MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: What it takes to go.
- 17:06MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And end an animal's life that they.
- 17:09MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Basically killed.
- 17:13MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Now all these things are about being in right relationship to me.
- 17:18MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: As well.
- 17:19MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: If you get real quiet.
- 17:21MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Before you go hunting the night before you go hunting.
- 17:27MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And you imagine.
- 17:28MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: That somewhere in between a dream sequence.
- 17:31MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: From a native American movie where the Eagle calls and flies over and your Google earth.
- 17:37MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Somewhere in between those.
- 17:39MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: You can imagine.
- 17:41MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Flying over.
- 17:45MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Your hunting area, your unit.
- 17:50MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And look for the deer with your imagination.
- 17:55MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: If with your heart, you can feel that you're part of the earth.
- 18:00MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And that for whatever your reasons.
- 18:03MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And Congar needing to connect by eating deer meat.
- 18:09MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Or having that experience.
- 18:11MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: If you can humbly.
- 18:13MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Connect and ask.
- 18:16MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And use your site.
- 18:18MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And drop into that quiet spot.
- 18:21MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: You'll find your tear.
- 18:23MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: And you'll know where they are the next day.
- 18:26MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: In my mind hunting.
- 18:27MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Isn't so much a sport.
- 18:31MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: As it is.
- 18:32MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Meditation.
- 18:36MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Way to be part of the earth.
- 18:40MacBook Air Microphone & FaceTime HD Camera: Okay.