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267: Coaching in 2026: A Transformational Dojo · Coaches Rising

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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I wanted to share some thoughts as we move to the end of the year about some of the themes I'm noticing in our field, in our industry, and also a reveal more of who coach is rising is, in some way, you probably know more about the guests on our podcasts and the trainings that we offer than who we are and what we take a stand for.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: we'll weave together with a stand we feel called to take in our times.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: These extraordinary times, let's just pause for a moment and acknowledge that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: In many ways deeply challenging times and yet, the sense of possibility is so palpable too.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe the first theme I'm mentioning is maybe the hardest to speak about in some sense, but it's what I'm noticing is more and more people talking about love, love in business, love in coaching and leadership, and how we've excluded love.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just not been part of our parlance when it comes to doing business together, when it comes to collaboration in the business world.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I see love as a verb all in a noun, and both as an animating principle, it's the very sense of relatedness and intimacy that binds us together, and at the same time, my sense is
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  [SPEAKER_01]: In some ways, you could look at the the world view of that we're moving out of, you know, that maybe saw business as like a machine fixed parts to be optimized, value to be extracted, people are clogs in that machine.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And that this has had a particular consequence of how we build
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, on a one sense, it sounds like love is this kind of abstract thing, but I think it's incredibly practical because it What if we start to hold it as an inquiry of Including the frequency of love, inside of the way we do business and we lead and we coach.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And that it can animate our conversations, and that it has an intelligence inside of it that could move us towards more generative ways of being together.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: trying to move away from our sense of deficiency and instead turn to our experience to the whole of who we are and include what's here radically, not to make things wrong.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And that when we do this, when we hold this kind of space that there's a harmonization that can take place, I don't mean harmonization in a sense of everything becomes nice and
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  [SPEAKER_01]: a sense of evolution.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: A current can start to co-here.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel that this notion of a vessel is very important to me in these times.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel that the metaphor of a vessel to be a vessel
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  [SPEAKER_01]: and wipe us cultivating ourselves as present, as a vessel that within which life can begin to co-here new ways of living new principles within which we can live more sustainably on the planet more creatively, more expansively.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This is, these are some of the ways that I think love is really a practical
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  [SPEAKER_01]: inquiry and consideration and no surprise that it's breaking through in these times as one of the solutions or the answers.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So another theme that I'm noticing is this topic of wise agency.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: My friend, Peter Limberger, coined this meme-wise agency, it really took half, and he kind of created this two-by-four, which then Scott Britain kind of charted a journey through it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But in some sense, there's this stage where we are asleep.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We are,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: very much in our inherited ways of being and we're not very agentic and then we can develop a sense of agency, but we haven't necessarily become wise and so our actions are not aligned with the greater good.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Many people achieve material success here and then feel disenfranchised at some point that it didn't bring them the
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And then they might shift over into this space of their inner life, their spiritual work.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And this is a beautiful phase, but also can lead to a kind of bypassing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe there's people in the spiritual community that don't have a lot of agency.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And then there's this place where it all comes together and there's a sense of being
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I love this idea because I think this is what I felt called to in my life very early on in my spiritual journey.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It was clear to me that I didn't want to transcend the world and live in a monastery or on a mountainside that I felt called to refine myself and serve the world.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And actually this is a very important distinction because there are distinct spiritual paths, some renunciate that when you follow those paths to their end, it is about renouncing the world.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And there are other paths.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: that actually are really about developing agency, developing wise agency, and being of service in the world, the path of the Bodhisattva.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's a great example, so I notice other people naming this, we need to rise talking about post-formal actors.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: People who can start to work on the way that we have ontologically designed our world.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So they can step outside of those, if that's even really possible, you know, I can hear certain people saying you cannot separate yourself from the systems within which we try to change, but what I do know is, you know, there are other voices in the field,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's been this challenge from people in the field.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You need to rise being one of them.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Dave Snowden, others who said, you know, you cannot only focus on introspection.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's actually a misnomer to separate the inner and the outer.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think there's a, there's a, there's a beautiful, potency in this view, you know, what is it when we,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: cease to do so.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And we recognize that there are two, uh, intimately co-arizing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We are, we cannot separate ourselves from the context, from the environment and the relationships we find ourselves in.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, people like, um, um, I forgot in his name now, but, uh,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It'll come to me in a moment, but pointing to how, again, how we've kind of lived in this world view of fixed parts and actually we're opening into how the relationship between things is as primary as the things, if not more primary than the things themselves.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And this is the space where we open into into being and how we are intimately
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  [SPEAKER_01]: connected and co-arise and relationship with our experience.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I think coaching for too long has focused on coaching and atomized individual in leadership.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: atomize the leader as if, you know, somehow separate from the systems, the relationships, the teams that they work with as if it's isolated within one individual.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So this is a strong theme I noticed too.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What is it to actually coach the relationships and to recognize that leadership is something that can move between people and depends as much on followers as it does on leaders.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: that doesn't mean that it's not important for us to work on our, you know, in inverted commerce in a life.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So this is another theme now, this theme of nervous system regulation.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: probably you don't need to say too much about this, but, you know, these are intense times, I believe these times are a dojo, a transmissional dojo, and, um,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a both end.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We want to help people to, we will have clients coming in who's nervous systems are disregulated and that they are not able to engage in deeper coaching work until we can help them move back into this window of tolerance and to regulate more.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This is really an important skill.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: There's many great practitioners out there showing ways that we can work with our nervous system, our bodies to do this.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And at the same time, we don't want to...
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  [SPEAKER_01]: remove ourselves from the intense sensation of being human to discomfort, that we're facing right now.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This discomfort is a key part of our growth at times.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: At times, so how can we be wise to distinguish between what's the right move to make?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Not to bypass or actually the deeper emotions and experiences that are being evoked inside of us, which actually are the very, the very few for our transformation.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They are the doorway between, it's the doorway into our transformation.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: which leads to another topic, they're kind of coming fast now.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So our own maturity and consciousness as a coach being their foundation within which we coach.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So yes, it's great to have tools and to have
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  [SPEAKER_01]: rigorous training.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's really important.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And that actually, it's our own maturity, it's our own in a work.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: How we looked at our shadows, how we met ourselves on this fundamental level.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This journey is what unlocks our coaching genius.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's just a given.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's, you know, on a facet of that is that that is what will help us to lean into our developmental edges of practitioner.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And now for me, that's where I am doing my best coaching.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And there are times where I plateau, you know, I broken through to that edge.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: New capacities,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: uh, then I start to habituate around those, so um, so I feel like it's an ongoing practice to lean into our edge, to ask questions like, what kind of experience would I like to have with my coaching clients, you know, it goes against the, uh, and a dictate of follow your client's agenda.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: There's much to be said about that one, but I'm not going to go into that in more detail, but these are, I like this idea of insolment.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: These are in soul-making times.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: When we go on this deeper journey, I think this is when we move into this territory of insolment, and that something begins to
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  [SPEAKER_01]: move through our coaching and we move into deeper transformational presence.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And this is one of the magic ingredients with our clients.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So what is the stance that we take?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I think many of the things I've shared already contain the seeds of what we feel is important.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that the future of coaching is vibrational and I notice I hesitate to say that because that word has a lot of baggage and it's association and the with the new age communities, but we're moving into a post materialist world.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: and a view that, on as the luminous, and we're being invited to expand our bandwidth, the range within which we work, and AI is only going to compound this move, so how can we become a transformational presence that can hold frequencies, containers that invite
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The transformation that wants to occur, the evolution, working in emergence, bringing our coaching into the present moment, into bringing the topic right here, right
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Supporting our clients to make every deeper contact with themselves, and as we do so tapping into a field of intelligence, and the potential of our clients crystallizes.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And we move towards the edge of what we and our clients know, where we don't have the answers where transformation happens,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: hold space for revelation, and develop our capacity to attune, refine our souls as instruments to attune to the subtle fields of information available to us, and that really requires
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  [SPEAKER_00]: be receiving coaching, supervision, this work really for me as a deep calling, tuning into that sense of calling and what's our unique transformational signature, our unique transformational frequency, so what a practice is that helpers tune into that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: which has been a very dominant game over the last decades, striving to improve ourselves, to cover over that sense of deficiency.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But instead, letting things be, and the paradoxical nature of change opens up, and our desires and our longings,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: wholeness, not as a nice idea, but as a embodied experience that emerges as we radically include what's here.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Beyond the pandemic of the solo self-as, then Seagull calls it to coach the
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We are now a world better understood as verb-like and folding patterns than fixed entities.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And this move beyond coaching.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And some ways the word feels like it's becoming fixed or too small.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So we've talked on this podcast about the transformational boundary between coaching and therapy that invites us into a deeper sense of ethical consideration around our scope of practice, our depth of maturity, our capabilities, but it allows for us to attune that actually our capacity to hold space and attune.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: is fundamental and what guides us in the scope of our work as well as the rigorous training that we do.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel inspired by this path of mixed mistal arts as one of my friends called it that we can begin to become post systemic, which invites us into this, you know, this question of what is.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What is mine uniquely to bring that the world of tomorrow needs, this wider self, this insults self that can pick up the different roles and systems, coach, mental,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: and community.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So one of the things that coaches rising we want to begin to do and I'd love to hear from you is to gather a community to come together around our shared sense of purpose to recognize that we need one another in these times and that we can deepen our capabilities in community and that there is a way that we can grow and support one another in our missions in community that's just not possible when we're alone.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'd love to hear from you if any of this resonates with you and thanks for tuning in.