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AI Warnings Explained with Dr. Drew Dickens & 4 Habits of Joy-Filled People with Marcus Warner & The Ladder of Love with Stasi Eldredge · Karl and Crew

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  S1: Broadcasting from Chicago, across North America and beyond. It's Carl
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  S1: and crew. Come as you are an experienced guide, overcome
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  S1: what seems impossible and live as you never imagined delivering
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  S1: the truth daily.
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  S2: If it were possible to have every worldly gain available
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  S2: and you're forfeiting your soul, there's no amount of gain
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  S2: that would make it worth it.
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  S3: Our own way never ever works. Because it's apart from
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  S3: the life source, which is God.
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  S4: For me, growing up, love was always conditional and can
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  S4: be taken from you. Christ's love can't. And he went
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  S4: to the cross with my mind and my heart that night.
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  S1: Now, from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl
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  S1: and Crew man.
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  S5: We're down to 72 people. That is it. And you're wondering, well,
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  S5: what's going on? Well, they aren't getting picked off, Oh,
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  S5: but when we're down to 72 people, that's that's just
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  S5: how many seats we have left for praying during share.
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  S2: We started with 620. That's how many. When you break
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  S2: it down to 30 minute slots, ten people praying per
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  S2: half hour, 620 slots down to how many did you say?
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  S5: 72.
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  S2: 72 left. So 500 and almost 550 people have already
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  S2: signed up, committed to a half hour. We are so grateful.
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  S2: And if we could get this totally full today, that
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  S2: would be incredible.
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  S5: Yeah, it's going to happen. It's going to happen. It
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  S5: may happen in the next half hour. Um, this is
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  S5: a joy, guys. Uh, you know, I, I've been a
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  S5: part of this is why it's so important. I have
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  S5: been a part of two kind of regional or kind
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  S5: of local awakenings that were just as real as real
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  S5: could be. In fact, when we were my bride and
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  S5: I were rehearsing the story of what happened at a
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  S5: church in Alaska with Pastor Lutzer and his wife, Rebecca,
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  S5: we had dinner with him. It was one of those
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  S5: two hour dinners that turned into 3.5 hours, which are
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  S5: always the best. And, you know, as we were walking
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  S5: through the story, it's it's an awesome thing because we
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  S5: witnessed at one service this happened twice. But at one service,
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  S5: like 500 and change I think is I don't want
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  S5: to undersell it. My wife says I undersell it sometimes,
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  S5: but 500 people surrendered to Christ. This isn't hands in
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  S5: the air when no one's looking. This is. You are
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  S5: surrendering all you are to Jesus. You're looking in the
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  S5: mirror and going, I'm a sinner and I need a Savior.
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  S5: You're repentant and following Christ. Stand in the lobby after
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  S5: the service, get a new follower packet. We're going to
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  S5: team you up with a life coach. We made that commitment.
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  S5: That's a different kind of number.
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  S2: Oh, yeah.
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  S5: When you get we would have four lines right across
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  S5: one another and ten deep. And I walked out into
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  S5: the lobby at the end of some of those services.
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  S5: And people are just standing there in tears, getting prayed
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  S5: for joy galore. It was just every every kind of
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  S5: person you can imagine. But here's the point of that.
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  S5: That didn't happen without prayer. That was the engine room.
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  S5: We had elders on our knees every Thursday night in
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  S5: our home, on our knees every Thursday night in our home.
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  S5: We'd have a charcuterie board before charcuterie boards were even
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  S5: a thing. And so we'd have some nibbles for the
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  S5: guys and we'd bust onto. And when I say on
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  S5: our knees, I mean physically on our knees. A couple
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  S5: of the guys couldn't get on their knees. They were
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  S5: older guys, but most of us were on our knees.
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  S5: Bibles opened and that's how God moved. Do I believe
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  S5: in the power of prayer? You better believe it, man.
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  S5: I've seen it. And so getting you to grab a
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  S5: seat for share and pray, get a front row seat.
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  S5: We just got a handful of seats left. 30 minutes
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  S5: of prayer. Take the pressure off someone who's like, man,
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  S5: I'd like to try this, but it seems like isn't
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  S5: this for the super saints? AU contraire Pierre.
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  S2: I believe that this is going to be so personally
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  S2: enriching for you. Don't be intimidated by the length of time.
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  S2: We're going to send you some prayer prompts so that
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  S2: you have an idea of what we're even asking for
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  S2: prayer for. But I believe if you open the Word
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  S2: of God and you sit with the Lord and you
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  S2: just have a conversation, you're that 30 minutes is going
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  S2: to finish and you're going to. There's going to be
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  S2: a fresh life in you big time. I wholeheartedly believe.
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  S5: You do, don't you?
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  S2: Oh, I do.
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  S5: Yeah, we've seen it. I mean, we hear back from
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  S5: people going, yeah, I, I couldn't believe what God was doing.
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  S5: And you're going to be partnered up with nine other
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  S5: people who knows where. Better chance than not. They're a
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  S5: long ways away from you.
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  S2: So you will be praying by yourself, knowing that there
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  S2: are other people who are praying at the same time,
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  S2: in the same direction for the same things. So if
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  S2: you're willing to be a part of that, take the challenge.
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  S2: Just text crew to 800 555, 7898, crew CREW to
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  S2: 805 557898.
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  S5: Yeah, I'll tell you what, he's always there. He's omnipresent.
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  S5: But when you're focused in prayer, the king is in
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  S5: the room. Thank you for jumping in, guys. It's Carl
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  S5: and crew and. Okay. Super die. I don't know if
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  S5: you can hear me. She got her headphones on in there.
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  S2: I think she's working on some audio.
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  S5: Hey. Super die. Thanks for swapping out the headsets. Appreciate you.
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  S5: What were you doing in there? Just editing audio. Yes.
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  S5: How's it going in there? Editing audio. Going good. Good.
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  S5: Hanging in there.
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  S4: Oh, yes. Always.
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  S5: You're always spry. She's so spry she ups and moves. Hey. So, uh,
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  S5: refresh this thing. Let's see where we're at on this
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  S5: prayers thing.
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  S4: 567 out of 620 we're at 567.
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  S2: We're so close.
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  S5: Yeah, we're we're right. We're like, right there, guys. Okay,
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  S5: so we got 50 ish seats left, something like that.
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  S5: So 50 plus. Yeah, 50 plus. Man, they're going fast.
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  S5: When you get this link, be sure to use it.
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  S5: That's all I can say. Yes.
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  S2: Text crew 805 557898.
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  S5: Yeah. Grateful for you. Really grateful. We're going to top
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  S5: this thing off here soon. Okay. Ali, what's cooking here, sister?
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  S2: Coming up, we are going to continue our conversation about emotions.
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  S2: What about love? How can cultivating a ladder of love
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  S2: help you with spiritual intimacy and even emotional healing? Stacey
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  S2: Eldridge joins us. Coming up.
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  S1: You're listening to Curl and Crew on Moody Radio.
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  S5: Well, we're talking emotions all week and we've been all
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  S5: over the globe here with emotions. Everything you can imagine.
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  S5: And I and it's good because we're near the end
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  S5: of the week here, and it's time to start buttoning
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  S5: things up. And we've had a lot of biblical remedies
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  S5: for some of these things. But emotional healing, when you
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  S5: really think about those two words, you realize that there's
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  S5: something bigger than you that has to be at work.
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  S5: And Stacey Eldridge is with us right now. Aren't we glad, Stacey,
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  S5: that God is bigger than us? Sister.
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  S6: Thank goodness, in every arena of our life, in every
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  S6: single aspect, I'm so grateful.
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  S2: Stacey Eldridge is the co-founder of Wild at Heart, a
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  S2: ministry devoted to helping people discover the heart of God,
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  S2: recover their own hearts in God's love, and learn to
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  S2: live in God's kingdom. Stacey, what is the thing that
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  S2: most keeps people from emotional healing and spiritual intimacy with God?
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  S6: Oh, I would say it's their own story of love.
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  S6: Everybody has suffered in this life. Nobody gets out of
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  S6: here without being wounded, and the way we have been
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  S6: wounded can pin our heart down. Messages came as who
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  S6: we are and who we're not. And those messages can
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  S6: keep us from learning God rightly. And he wants to
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  S6: reframe and come into the deep places where there are
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  S6: emotional wounds so that he might heal us, restore us,
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  S6: and that we can learn him rightly.
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  S5: You know, you've titled your work The Ladder of Love.
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  S5: I've got to believe for sure that this isn't about
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  S5: us bootstrapping and ascending some lofty place. It's almost like layers.
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  S5: This ladder is like steps of revelation of God's love.
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  S5: Is that true?
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  S6: That's exactly what it is. I would even say that
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  S6: the latter is our identity. A ladder has to be
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  S6: on firm ground, and our identity needs to be based
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  S6: on the rock of Jesus Christ, not on our accomplishments
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  S6: or our finances or anything else, and the latter is
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  S6: both a revelation of who God is and the many
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  S6: and multifaceted ways he represents Himself in Scripture. But in that,
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  S6: we come to find out who we really are.
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  S2: Stacey, talk a little bit about your own story. For
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  S2: our listeners who who aren't familiar with you. Give us
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  S2: a little bit of your background.
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  S6: Well, I was not a Christian for a lot of
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  S6: years until I was 21. And I was really at
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  S6: the depth of despair when Jesus reached down and saved
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  S6: me again. It wasn't out of my striving to be good.
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  S6: It was simply about receiving his love. I was 21
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  S6: years old and I was in totally in. But about
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  S6: 15 years later, I discovered that I was just getting tired.
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  S6: I was thinking that I needed to earn God's love
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  S6: rather than just receive it and rest in it. And
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  S6: that propelled me on a journey together with my husband, John,
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  S6: to come to know the heart of God and how
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  S6: deeply loved I am. And we all are. In whatever
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  S6: moment we find ourselves in. And that is what has
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  S6: profoundly changed my life. And we love because he first
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  S6: loved us. So receiving his love, believing him, resting in it.
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  S6: That propels me to love him in return.
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  S5: Stacy Eldredge, our guest. All right, Stacy, let's break this
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  S5: down because we talk about this all the time. We
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  S5: in the West, we've got a perspective of Christianity that's
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  S5: unfamiliar to the scriptures. The scriptures are loaded with, you know,
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  S5: I'm the vine, you're the branch. You abide in me,
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  S5: you're going to bear fruit. And we focused on it's
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  S5: been a while since we've shared this alley, but it's
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  S5: worth sharing. We focus so much on fruit production, and
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  S5: my conviction is we can't do anything but produce fake
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  S5: fruit apart from an abiding relationship with Jesus. So it's
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  S5: this connection with Jesus that's so important. Why are we
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  S5: so prone to try to produce fruit instead of having
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  S5: proximity to the love and intimacy of Jesus Christ? Why?
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  S6: Oh my goodness. I think we're sometimes taught wrong. Yeah.
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  S6: I remember my early days in church when particularly women
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  S6: would get up and share their testimonies or share their lives.
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  S6: They were unattainable to me. I would call it the
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  S6: parade of the perfect. Like I, I knew my inside
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  S6: story like that is not available to me, but I
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  S6: would try. Somewhere along the line I thought I had
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  S6: to earn it rather than just rest in it, and
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  S6: I didn't know. I thought the goal of Christianity was
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  S6: do better, offer God a whole bunch, get a lot
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  S6: of work done. Whereas God says it's intimacy. And further
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  S6: than that, it's union. He wants partnership with us. He
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  S6: wants us to know him like we would know our
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  S6: closest friend. Like we would know our spouse. It's it's
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  S6: an amazing amount of intimacy, of closeness, of proximity to
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  S6: his heart. And that's what will propel us. That's what
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  S6: will take us the long haul. Not duty, not obligation,
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  S6: not our works, but loving him.
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  S2: The book is called The Ladder of Love. Stacy the ladder.
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  S2: I'm guessing there's some sort of progression. There's some building
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  S2: blocks here. How much of this is spiritual formation? I mean,
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  S2: it's this is not just something in theory to aim for,
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  S2: to sit there and wait for the love of God
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  S2: to kind of fall upon you. That's not even biblical,
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  S2: by the way, but there's a spiritual formation component. What
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  S2: do you say.
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  S6: We have to give him our. Yes. And in the
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  S6: book I also give handrails. We are given spiritual disciplines
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  S6: not to punish us, but to strengthen us and to
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  S6: help us and to guide us their tools, their gifts
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  S6: for us to to help us ascend in knowing him.
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  S6: And so there are great things to begin to practice.
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  S6: And I want to say that coming close to Jesus
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  S6: like this is something that we grow in over our lifetimes.
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  S6: So that's why a ladder, we start on the bottom rung,
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  S6: which I describe as clay being formed by the potter's hands.
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  S6: Now we are always clay. We are always being formed
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  S6: throughout our lives. But we get to ascend in the
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  S6: metaphor that he has given us as his sheep, and
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  S6: we learn him as our provider, our protector. Now we're alive.
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  S6: We're not inanimate, we're alive. And we continue to ascend
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  S6: just by learning him, just by him telling us who
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  S6: he is, which we need to be in His Word,
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  S6: because that's where he reveals himself. But he also does
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  S6: in nature and creation and in the particular ways that
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  S6: he speaks to us, his love for us. So yes,
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  S6: there is a yes we have to give. And it
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  S6: comes from a desire being thirsty. That's a great gift.
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  S6: If you're not thirsty, you don't go to the living water.
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  S6: If you're not hungry, you don't go to the banqueting table.
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  S6: So even our desperation for more. That's him calling us
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  S6: closer to him.
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  S5: Yeah. You know what you're speaking of, Stacy. Here are
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  S5: the lost disciplines of. Oh, I'm even thinking of some
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  S5: of the great Quaker writers and some of that. And
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  S5: it's a shame that we have to almost go back
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  S5: in order to go ahead. But we've championed disciplines of activity, service,
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  S5: using your gifts and all that. But we've neglected the
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  S5: disciplines of silence, solitude, introspection, letting the Lord speak into
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  S5: our heart. How do we reclaim that? Because, Stacy, let
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  S5: me just tell you right now, sister, this is pay
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  S5: dirt what you're talking about. This is where the real
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  S5: faith lives. And we've missed it. Like the broad side
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  S5: of a pecan barn. How do we reclaim these rungs
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  S5: of the ladder? How do we do that?
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  S6: You know what the yes, the asking for it, but
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  S6: then doing the work of just being still and knowing
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  S6: that I am God. It's making a choice when you
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  S6: want him more. Our schedules will reflect our priorities, and
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  S6: he wants to be number one. And so that means
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  S6: you have to make time for it. Now, you may
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  S6: be in a season of life where that time is
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  S6: ten minutes and you're like, Hallelujah, I got ten minutes.
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  S6: I'm in a season of life where I have a
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  S6: lot more time than that. And it's progressed over my
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  S6: lifetime to be still center in and also focus on
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  S6: where Christ dwells. He says. He dwells in our hearts
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  S6: through faith. He has taken up residence within. So to
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  S6: encounter him, we actually need to sink within. Ask for
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  S6: Holy Spirit's help to help us attune to his presence within,
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  S6: and then get quiet. Tell him you love him. You
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  S6: love him in whatever situation you're in, and then ask
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  S6: if he'd like to say anything to you. That's a
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  S6: great beginning.
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  S2: Stacey Eldredge. The book is called The Ladder of Love.
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  S2: The ministry is called Wild at Heart. We'll send you
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  S2: information on both. Just text wild to 800 555 7898.
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  S2: Wild to 805 557898.
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  S1: He's a sports fanatic with a stand for anything you
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  S1: can think of. Young Thunder is in the crew. It's
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  S1: curl and crew on Moody radio.
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  S5: And there's no denying it. AI is powerhouse. You using
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  S5: it a lot, Ali?
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  S2: I do. I mean, I use ChatGPT as my preferred,
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  S2: I guess platform.
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  S5: Your go to.
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  S2: Yeah. And kind of for organizing ideas kind of planning.
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  S5: It's amazing.
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  S2: I try to avoid using it for creative tasks. I
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  S2: will say that.
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  S5: Yeah. I was in John one early this morning looking
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  S5: at what is the original Greek word for John the
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  S5: Baptist saying, behold the Son of God. It's fascinating stuff.
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  S5: I mean, in an instant it pulls it up quicker
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  S5: than any original language study. But it's got some power.
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  S5: Drew Dickens with us right now. Drew anthropic or not,
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  S5: anthropic as a whole. Who were those guys that predicted
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  S5: the end of times as we know it? My man.
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  S7: It's been a wild couple of weeks, man. Um, so
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  S7: for those of us that have, like, a home security system,
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  S7: here's what happened is, you know, when you install the system,
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  S7: you immediately want to go around and open windows and
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  S7: wave your arms around to make sure the security system
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  S7: is working. Well, that's what happened at the end of July.
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  S7: Open AI, ChatGPT. They installed a security system and they
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  S7: wanted to see if it was working. And so they
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  S7: told open AI. They told ChatGPT to go and break
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  S7: into our house, but they put it in what's called
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  S7: a sandbox. They said, you can only stay within these
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  S7: little guardrails and don't go outside of that. Well, ChatGPT
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  S7: basically said, look, if you want me to act like
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  S7: a thief, I'm going to be a thief. And so
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  S7: it immediately broke out of the guardrails when kind of
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  S7: no one was watching and started wandering its way through
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  S7: a company called Hugging Face, which is a funny name,
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  S7: but it's a it's a storehouse that companies will use
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  S7: to store data. Okay. Okay. And so it broke out
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  S7: of the out of the storehouse and started winding its
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  S7: way through that later in August. Anthropic Claude, they discovered
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  S7: that their version of their language model was doing the
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  S7: same thing. And so it kind of confessed that, yeah,
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  S7: on its own broke out and said, if you want
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  S7: us to act this way, this is the way we're
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  S7: going to act. Follow those rules. And it broke all
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  S7: the rules. The leaders of all these language models started
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  S7: coming forward and saying, okay, guys, it's time to tap
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  S7: the brakes. Um, they wrote an article called Pacing the Frontier.
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  S7: 1500 AI engineers from these two companies signed the letter saying,
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  S7: we need to slow this down. It's getting too smart,
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  S7: too fast, too quick. And then last week, end of
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  S7: last week, about a week ago, Jacob Coxon is the one.
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  S7: He's an engineer with anthropic. He's the one that came
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  S7: out and said 10% chance that within the end of
• 18:40
  S7: the decade that it's it's going to kill us all.
• 18:43
  S7: And that's of course what got the headline.
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  S5: Yeah.
• 18:46
  S7: All cranked up. Yeah, that's the headline.
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  S2: Then Doctor Drew Dickens with us this morning. Visionary leader,
• 18:51
  S2: AI expert. He has become a real go to for
• 18:54
  S2: our show as we try to keep you updated as
• 18:56
  S2: much as we can with what's going on with AI.
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  S2: So for a lot of people, you hear something like
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  S2: that and it sounds absolutely insane. It sounds like something
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  S2: out of one of those really terrible movies, a prediction
• 19:09
  S2: like that. What's a Christ follower to do with that
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  S2: kind of information?
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  S7: These kind of reports are starting to just come out
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  S7: every couple of weeks. A lot of people think that
• 19:19
  S7: it's just a marketing ploy. It grabs headlines, it gets
• 19:23
  S7: investors excited. They pour more money into it. So some
• 19:27
  S7: of it, it really could be that I think there
• 19:29
  S7: are some very legitimate threats that we need to be
• 19:31
  S7: concerned about. Carl, you mentioned one as far as power
• 19:35
  S7: grabs and electricity and things like that. So there's some
• 19:38
  S7: things we need to be mindful of. But boy, you've
• 19:40
  S7: got to immediately go through scripture and 365 times in
• 19:45
  S7: the Word of God, it says, fear not. Yeah. It's
• 19:47
  S7: one of the most common commands that we're given is
• 19:49
  S7: fear not. Isaiah 4110. I love going to. It's just
• 19:54
  S7: fear not, for I am the Lord your God. So
• 19:57
  S7: we need to go no further than that and also
• 19:59
  S7: just be discerning. You mentioned being in the word this morning.
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  S7: I was navigating through Hebrews chapter four and chapter five.
• 20:06
  S7: You know, talk about being discerning, trained by the constant
• 20:10
  S7: practice of distinguishing good from evil. So I think just
• 20:14
  S7: resting in the word, this is not the first time
• 20:16
  S7: we've got a 2000 year old book that teaches us
• 20:20
  S7: how to navigate fear. And so I think that's where
• 20:23
  S7: we are right now is to just take a breath and,
• 20:25
  S7: and learn how to just discern the spirits in these,
• 20:28
  S7: in these kind of press releases.
• 20:30
  S5: So fear not, I get that, but I go to
• 20:33
  S5: Matthew 24 and I just flipped open to it here.
• 20:36
  S5: And we see that a lot of false Christs are
• 20:39
  S5: going to come. Right. And all that's going to be
• 20:41
  S5: coming near the end. But you see, in Matthew 24,
• 20:45
  S5: you see a prediction of chaos. And my concern isn't
• 20:50
  S5: that AI. And I'm really not concerned. I trust the
• 20:53
  S5: sovereignty and providence of God, and those things are powerful.
• 20:57
  S5: But I think we need to be alert. We need
• 20:59
  S5: to be watchful as Christ's followers. We don't want to
• 21:01
  S5: stick our head in the sand. And it strikes me, Dru,
• 21:05
  S5: that it's important for us to understand that we may
• 21:09
  S5: in fact see not AI. I embedded, you know, robots
• 21:16
  S5: that are going to go kill us. But I am
• 21:17
  S5: thinking about rogue nations. I mean, think about this one, ally.
• 21:20
  S5: You got China, you got all these adversarial nations. What's
• 21:25
  S5: keeping them from tapping into AI to take out our
• 21:29
  S5: electrical grid? I mean, I'm not trying to scare anyone.
• 21:32
  S5: I'm just being practical here.
• 21:34
  S7: It's been fascinating that over the last week, the people
• 21:37
  S7: that have come out on the side of slowing this
• 21:39
  S7: down have been the larger language models, the people that
• 21:42
  S7: have come out and said no. Mark Zuckerberg with meta,
• 21:46
  S7: with Facebook. He said no. China, a big surprise, has
• 21:50
  S7: said no, we shouldn't slow down. President Trump has said, no,
• 21:54
  S7: we shouldn't slow down. And so this has become, uh
• 21:57
  S7: you know, he said she said both sides of the aisle, uh,
• 22:00
  S7: Washington has not been able to come to some conclusions
• 22:03
  S7: on this. There's some bad players in this that would
• 22:08
  S7: benefit from us slowing down. While the rest of the
• 22:11
  S7: world continues to advance in the field of AI China specifically.
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  S5: Yeah, that's the weird thing, isn't it, Ali? I mean,
• 22:18
  S5: come on, these nefarious players are like, yeah, you guys
• 22:22
  S5: slow down. But they aren't going to slow down.
• 22:25
  S2: Very true. True. The thing that many people listening will
• 22:29
  S2: wonder is, okay, are there things that I can do
• 22:31
  S2: to protect my family, to protect my information. I mean,
• 22:36
  S2: not you don't want to start speculating on all of
• 22:39
  S2: the ways that it could be used in destructive, that
• 22:42
  S2: AI could be destructive. But what can the average person
• 22:45
  S2: listening do to take some reasonable safeguards?
• 22:49
  S7: We really don't think about this much anymore, do we?
• 22:52
  S7: We try to be careful about, you know, where we
• 22:55
  S7: put our credit cards. We try to be careful about
• 22:57
  S7: the information that we we type into websites. When we
• 23:00
  S7: go on, we're thinking, I think less and less and
• 23:02
  S7: less about that. But we need to be thinking about
• 23:04
  S7: it more and more and more is who's asking for
• 23:07
  S7: this information? What's their privacy policy? We need to again
• 23:11
  S7: slow down and think about those things. Um, and, uh,
• 23:16
  S7: who's asking and why and where is it being stored.
• 23:19
  S7: All that information is readily available when we go in
• 23:21
  S7: these sites. We need to slow down and think about
• 23:24
  S7: those things more now than ever. We need to be having.
• 23:29
  S7: One of the things I'm advocating really strongly right now
• 23:31
  S7: is for churches and families to have an AI policy.
• 23:35
  S7: You know, we need a degree as a family. Here's
• 23:37
  S7: what we will and won't use AI for. We need
• 23:40
  S7: to start having these conversations. We really do.
• 23:43
  S5: Okay, so let's go to the cups half full side
• 23:46
  S5: of this thing. Here. You have created some tools here
• 23:49
  S5: that have been blowing our minds. I mean, talk about
• 23:52
  S5: links flying out the door. I don't know what the
• 23:54
  S5: last count was on that spiritual gifts assessment that you designed.
• 23:58
  S5: That is so beautiful. I have 40, 50,000 people beyond.
• 24:03
  S5: I mean, it's been hit heavy. So you've done something
• 24:07
  S5: really cool. Why don't you explain to the boom crew
• 24:11
  S5: what you've been up to the last week and a half?
• 24:13
  S5: Two weeks.
• 24:14
  S7: Glory to God for you. Your team really prompted me
• 24:18
  S7: to do this, is to create a simple little AI
• 24:22
  S7: tool for spiritual gifts and how it got started and
• 24:26
  S7: different things that we've been doing. And I thought, what
• 24:28
  S7: a fun use of AI for me to, to use
• 24:31
  S7: the power of that to create a simple little spiritual
• 24:34
  S7: tool that people can use to advance their walk with
• 24:38
  S7: the Lord. And so on my podcast this morning, I
• 24:43
  S7: put a link to that. It's called simple Faith tools.
• 24:46
  S7: And y'all were really the inspiration through the spirit for,
• 24:49
  S7: for that idea. But every week or so, I'm going
• 24:52
  S7: to publish another tool this morning. I put one on
• 24:56
  S7: there called End of Day. And it's a time to
• 24:59
  S7: help kind of guide you through the end of your
• 25:01
  S7: day and through a time of prayer and reflection. So
• 25:04
  S7: every week, I'm just going to commit to trying to
• 25:07
  S7: launch another simple faith. They're all free, a simple faith
• 25:10
  S7: tool to, to encourage you in your walk with the Lord.
• 25:15
  S5: He says it so off the cuff, but these are
• 25:17
  S5: powerful tools.
• 25:19
  S2: Very much so. I mean, we've mentioned a couple of them.
• 25:22
  S2: They're all on this site practicing gospel conversations, the spiritual
• 25:26
  S2: gifts assessment, and then this latest one, the end of
• 25:30
  S2: day reflection. Uh, if you want this, just text the
• 25:33
  S2: word drew to 800 555 7898. Text drew to 805 557898.
• 25:42
  S5: Yeah, and then we're going to need that end of
• 25:44
  S5: days reflection. The that we're going to the end of
• 25:47
  S5: day and then we're going to need the end of days.
• 25:49
  S5: And that's where you get to predict when Jesus is
• 25:51
  S5: actually coming back. I'm kidding. Absolutely. That'll be.
• 25:56
  S7: As soon as I said end of day, I'm thinking,
• 25:58
  S7: oh my gosh, just think of that.
• 25:59
  S5: No, no.
• 26:00
  S7: No, that one's not going to be on. That one's
• 26:02
  S7: not going to be on there.
• 26:03
  S5: No, that won't be on there. There's no S on
• 26:05
  S5: this feature. It's end of day. It's it's a journal day.
• 26:08
  S5: Help you with your.
• 26:09
  S7: The end of your day.
• 26:10
  S5: Yeah. And the beautiful thing with that is, I mean,
• 26:14
  S5: what you cap your day with. I mean, have you
• 26:17
  S5: ever noticed if if you cap your day with some
• 26:19
  S5: crazy flick that's got you disturbed, you're disturbed in the night.
• 26:23
  S2: Yeah. Crazy dreams. Yeah. Like what is going on?
• 26:27
  S5: So this is going to turn this around. We are
• 26:29
  S5: fired up to get this launched here today for you. Drew,
• 26:33
  S5: we love you, man. You've been an unbelievable resource. And
• 26:37
  S5: you call them hearts and you give hope. It's really cool. Ali,
• 26:40
  S5: what's the link we've got for this?
• 26:41
  S2: Just text drew to 805 557898. Text drew to 805 557898.
• 26:50
  S2: I also want to invite you to use that number
• 26:53
  S2: if you have a question. We won't get to it today,
• 26:56
  S2: but we will compile the feedback that comes in from you.
• 26:59
  S2: We'll share that with drew. So as he's planning different tools,
• 27:03
  S2: we can give him real time feedback. So you can
• 27:05
  S2: throw in a question or a suggestion if you have
• 27:07
  S2: one as well. 805, five, five, 78, 98.
• 27:11
  S5: That's really cool. You know what, real quick here, I mean,
• 27:15
  S5: we get breaking news on AI every day. What is
• 27:18
  S5: the counterintuitive approach with AI that you're holding on to?
• 27:24
  S5: Because everything intuitively says that it's growing. It's exponential. What's
• 27:30
  S5: the counter to all of that? What's what's happening here
• 27:33
  S5: with a Christian worldview?
• 27:35
  S7: I'm out of town right now speaking at a conference
• 27:38
  S7: on this topic. And so often people will come to
• 27:41
  S7: me and say, you know what? I'm just not using it.
• 27:43
  S7: I'm not on AI. I'm not going to use AI,
• 27:45
  S7: I push. I just made the decision never. Well, that
• 27:48
  S7: that ship has sailed. And so one of the first
• 27:50
  S7: things I tell people is to start wading into the water,
• 27:53
  S7: practice it. Learn how to use it. Um, learn what
• 27:57
  S7: the tool is and isn't and should and shouldn't be
• 27:59
  S7: for you. Um, so kind of counterintuitive instead of running
• 28:02
  S7: away from, don't run into it, but walk into it
• 28:05
  S7: and start, uh, start understanding how it works and its
• 28:09
  S7: limitations and what it can be used for in a,
• 28:12
  S7: in an affirming, redemptive way, because it is a tool
• 28:15
  S7: that did not surprise the Holy Spirit or God.
• 28:17
  S5: Yes.
• 28:18
  S7: So start seeing what God can do with it.
• 28:20
  S5: Love it. Okay guys. Text the word drew to 805 5578, 98.
• 28:26
  S5: Incredible platform he's building here.
• 28:29
  S1: He was sharing the gospel on the radio and then
• 28:32
  S1: he got saved. Young thunders in the crew. It's Carl
• 28:37
  S1: and crew on Moody Radio.
• 28:38
  S2: Well, do you ever look around and think there are
• 28:40
  S2: some people who just seem like they're more happy? They
• 28:45
  S2: have a happy personality, they seem more joyful. And you go, man,
• 28:50
  S2: why can't I be one of those people? Doctor Marcus
• 28:55
  S2: Warner joining us right now. He's president of Deeper Walk International.
• 28:59
  S2: And he co-authored a book called The Four Habits of
• 29:02
  S2: Joy Filled People. First of all, happy versus joyful. Let's
• 29:08
  S2: distinguish between the two.
• 29:09
  S8: Doctor Marcus joyful is a relational word. And a lot
• 29:13
  S8: of people times we don't catch that off the top
• 29:17
  S8: because happy is I am completely dependent on something outside
• 29:20
  S8: of me to do something to me and makes me happy.
• 29:23
  S8: Whereas joy is like relational happiness, for example. It's like
• 29:27
  S8: if you see a good friend in there, your phone
• 29:30
  S8: lights up and their names on it, you can feel
• 29:32
  S8: happy just seeing their name on the phone. Yeah, right.
• 29:34
  S8: It's a relational thing. That's the joy that you feel.
• 29:37
  S8: Our joy increases when we can share happy things with
• 29:40
  S8: people we love. But our joy also increases when we
• 29:43
  S8: share hard things with people that we love. You know,
• 29:46
  S8: when we don't feel alone in it, when we are
• 29:48
  S8: with somebody we enjoy being with, it helps give us
• 29:50
  S8: more capacity to go through hard things.
• 29:53
  S2: And of course, we know that joy is a part
• 29:55
  S2: of the fruit of the spirit that we don't. We
• 29:57
  S2: can't truly experience joy apart from a relationship with God. True.
• 30:03
  S2: Speak to that a little bit.
• 30:04
  S8: Well, I would say that, uh, there's misunderstanding on that
• 30:07
  S8: to some extent. And that is like brain science would
• 30:10
  S8: suggest that everybody experiences joy. Everybody knows what relational joy is.
• 30:14
  S8: Jesus even comments on that. He's like, don't you love
• 30:17
  S8: those who love you? You know, everybody does that. But
• 30:20
  S8: we should be loving our enemies and joy and love
• 30:23
  S8: are inseparable. It's that feeling that says, oh yeah, I
• 30:26
  S8: have joy in this relationship. It's part of the way
• 30:28
  S8: that I express love to people. So just like the
• 30:31
  S8: Holy Spirit leads to love, but other people can feel
• 30:34
  S8: love too. The Holy Spirit leads the joy. That doesn't
• 30:38
  S8: mean other people don't feel joy too.
• 30:40
  S2: So let's talk about some of the habits, the four
• 30:42
  S2: habits of joy filled people. What are things that people
• 30:46
  S2: do that point them towards joy more often that maybe
• 30:50
  S2: others miss out on? Not? And I'm guessing it has
• 30:53
  S2: nothing to do with circumstances always being favorable for some
• 30:57
  S2: more than others.
• 30:58
  S8: No, not at all. So I give you examples like
• 31:00
  S8: I've got a very good friend who has lived with
• 31:03
  S8: chronic pain her whole life and has so many physical ailments,
• 31:07
  S8: but every morning she starts her day, she won't get
• 31:10
  S8: out of bed till she's reminded herself of 50 things
• 31:12
  S8: that she is grateful for. You know, this is her life.
• 31:15
  S8: And so one of the habits that people cultivate is appreciation.
• 31:20
  S8: In fact, the fastest way to grow joy is the
• 31:23
  S8: practice of appreciation. Now, a lot of people kind of
• 31:25
  S8: roll their eyes at that because they think, well, I
• 31:27
  S8: say thank you all the time. I'm a grateful person.
• 31:29
  S8: Appreciation way I'm using it is a step beyond just
• 31:33
  S8: saying thank you for things. It's actually entering into a
• 31:36
  S8: state where you are enjoying an experience. It's like the
• 31:40
  S8: difference between noticing that there's a pretty sky and taking
• 31:42
  S8: five minutes to just soak it in. It's the difference
• 31:46
  S8: between saying, oh, I'm grateful I've got some coffee and
• 31:48
  S8: actually enjoying that cup of coffee. And so what the
• 31:51
  S8: brain science has shown us is that if I can
• 31:54
  S8: get my brain in a state of appreciation for five
• 31:57
  S8: minutes consecutively, twice a day over a 30 day period,
• 32:02
  S8: I will rewire my brain and joy will begin to
• 32:04
  S8: feel normal. And so that connects really well with Scripture,
• 32:08
  S8: connects really well with the Holy Spirit, right? Because appreciation
• 32:12
  S8: is a form of meditation on what God has done
• 32:14
  S8: for us. That is good. And so it becomes relational
• 32:17
  S8: experience with God. What I've seen is that most people
• 32:19
  S8: think they're better at appreciation than they are. I know
• 32:22
  S8: when I first tried it, I would do it for
• 32:25
  S8: like five seconds and I realized, okay, I'm done. I've
• 32:27
  S8: got nothing. It's like, how do people stay in this for, uh,
• 32:31
  S8: a full minute? You know, for two minutes. For three minutes.
• 32:33
  S8: It was harder than I realized. And I think that's
• 32:36
  S8: the case for a lot of us, that we tend
• 32:37
  S8: to think we're better at it than we are.
• 32:39
  S2: So appreciation or I've heard people talk about gratitude. That
• 32:42
  S2: may be one of the ones that people might expect.
• 32:45
  S2: Which one of the four would be maybe most surprising
• 32:48
  S2: to people as a habit that helps promote joy filled living?
• 32:53
  S8: Yeah, I would say storytelling. So we actually teach four
• 32:56
  S8: of them. And you can remember what the word casa, right?
• 32:58
  S8: So the idea here is that I've got an inside house,
• 33:01
  S8: and that inside house is either going to run on
• 33:02
  S8: fear or joy. And if my inner house is running
• 33:05
  S8: on fear, it's not a happy place to be. So
• 33:08
  S8: I've got to retrain myself to make my inner world
• 33:10
  S8: a place that is running on joy. So appreciation is
• 33:13
  S8: one that storytelling is another one of these four habits.
• 33:17
  S8: And the typical story people tell is this bad thing
• 33:20
  S8: happened to me. I felt this bad emotion and that's
• 33:23
  S8: why my life is bad. So it's like bad happened.
• 33:26
  S8: Bad emotion. Now I'm stuck in bad, joy filled people
• 33:30
  S8: tell stories a little different. It's this bad thing happened.
• 33:33
  S8: I felt this bad emotion. But. And when they get
• 33:37
  S8: to the but they're like, but something else happened. But
• 33:39
  S8: I remembered God. But somebody stepped in and helped me.
• 33:42
  S8: But I am hoping for this in the future. But
• 33:45
  S8: there is a something that changes the story at the
• 33:47
  S8: end that gives them some hope. And so I find
• 33:50
  S8: that a lot of times we get stuck telling ourselves
• 33:53
  S8: the story of our life in very negative ways. That
• 33:57
  S8: leaves us in a place of hopelessness where nothing can
• 33:59
  S8: ever change. And so we have to learn how to
• 34:01
  S8: become good storytellers, of how to tell our own story
• 34:05
  S8: with more joy, and to find the joy in our story,
• 34:08
  S8: to emphasize that word. But it's kind of interesting also,
• 34:11
  S8: because when you're telling a story, you definitely need the word.
• 34:14
  S8: But it goes, this bad thing happened. I felt this
• 34:16
  S8: bad emotion. But when you're doing appreciation, it's the opposite.
• 34:20
  S8: You don't want the word, but the one thing that
• 34:23
  S8: will really sabotage appreciation is a. Like if I tell
• 34:26
  S8: my wife, I really appreciate it when you do the dishes,
• 34:28
  S8: but I wish you'd do them more often. Right. I
• 34:32
  S8: there's no appreciation there. So like, that's sort of the
• 34:35
  S8: forbidden word in appreciation, but it's the essential word in storytelling.
• 34:40
  S2: And, you know, when you think about the hard parts
• 34:43
  S2: of people's story, the really painful parts, the parts that
• 34:46
  S2: man where the sin of others caused such pain and
• 34:50
  S2: such destruction, this is more than just finding a silver
• 34:54
  S2: lining or kind of putting a, a happy bow on
• 34:57
  S2: really hard things. I mean, this takes a deep work
• 35:01
  S2: with the help from the Lord, to be able to
• 35:04
  S2: see where God is working in really hard stuff, right?
• 35:08
  S2: I mean, we can't rush past that.
• 35:10
  S8: That's absolutely true. And so what happens, though, is that
• 35:13
  S8: sometimes people feel that they have to wait until they're
• 35:15
  S8: all done with their healing journey to experience any joy.
• 35:18
  S2: Yeah.
• 35:18
  S8: And that's partly what we're trying to dispel, is that
• 35:20
  S8: there can be joy along the way. And sometimes it
• 35:23
  S8: is just the little things. It's like stopping and smelling
• 35:26
  S8: the roses along the way. It's like life still may
• 35:29
  S8: be bad, but if you can train yourself to find
• 35:31
  S8: those good things along the way and enjoy them and
• 35:35
  S8: enter into that joy, it will give you greater capacity
• 35:39
  S8: to handle the hard things. So the image I sometimes
• 35:42
  S8: use is that my life is like a ball. And
• 35:44
  S8: when that ball is full of air, it bounces back.
• 35:46
  S8: It's fun to play with, but when that ball leaks
• 35:49
  S8: and there's not much air in it, it goes flat
• 35:51
  S8: and it just doesn't bounce well. And it's the same
• 35:53
  S8: with our emotions. If we can replenish the joy in
• 35:57
  S8: our lives and we have more control over that than
• 35:59
  S8: we realize, people tend to wait for joy to happen
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  S8: to them. This is saying no. There's habits you can
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  S8: build that will increase your ability to experience joy. And
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  S8: as you grow these habits, it'll refill the air in
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  S8: your ball. You'll find yourself bouncing back faster from hard
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  S8: things that happen. Whereas if you've got low joy and
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  S8: you've got a hard life. You know, that's a really
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  S8: difficult combination. And that's where I think a lot of
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  S8: people are stuck. They have a low joy life and
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  S8: they have a hard life. And as long as you
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  S8: think the joy is something that happens to you and
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  S8: not something that you can develop through habits, then you're
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  S8: going to feel like you're kind of stuck there with
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  S8: no alternatives.
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  S2: I know you there's some brain science research that went
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  S2: into this book as well. What did you discover about
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  S2: joy and brain science?
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  S8: So fascinating thing is, the way God designed our brain
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  S8: is the identity center of my brain, and the joy
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  S8: center of my brain are the same part of the brain.
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  S8: It's called the right orbital prefrontal cortex for people who
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  S8: like that sort of thing. And up there is the
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  S8: part of my brain that thinks of itself as me.
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  S8: And so, for example, if that part of my brain
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  S8: gets injured, I can forget who I am. I can
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  S8: start acting like a different person because it's the part
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  S8: that contains my character and my personality. And so it
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  S8: just shows up automatically all the time. It's also the
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  S8: part of my brain that grows best with the experience
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  S8: of joy. And I think it's interesting because I think
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  S8: the lesson there is that God has designed us that
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  S8: like our true identity, our true self, is who we
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  S8: are when we're living with joy. And to many of us,
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  S8: define our true identity by who we are when we're malfunctioning.
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  S8: You know, when we're stuck in fear, when we're stuck
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  S8: in shame or sadness or something, instead of understanding that
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  S8: our true identity is that person when we're the most
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  S8: fully alive. That's our real self. And so God wants
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  S8: to encourage that. And that's why he talks about appreciation
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  S8: and storytelling. So that's the biggest thing I learned. And
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  S8: that's also where we discover that joy is fundamentally a
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  S8: relational experience. Because the part of my brain that experiences
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  S8: joy is in the relational center of my brain.
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  S2: Doctor Marcus Werner with us right now. He co-authored the
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  S2: book The Four Habits of Joy Filled People. If you
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  S2: want more, just text habits to 805 five, five, 78, 98,
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  S2: we're going to link you up to the resource as
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  S2: well as a podcast that goes with it. Just text
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  S2: habits to (800) 555-7898.
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  S1: Walking closer to Jesus every day. You're listening to Carl
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  S1: and crew.
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  S5: Everything. Solving a problem. Everything that you have. Everything. I mean,
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  S5: if you think about the job you have, you're solving
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  S5: a problem at some level. If you're a teacher, you're
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  S5: solving the problem of the problem of a kid that
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  S5: needs to learn how to read and write and all
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  S5: that kind of stuff, you're solving that challenge, right? If
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  S5: you've got a cell phone, what problem is that solving?
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  S2: If you have a cell phone?
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  S5: Yeah. If a cell phone, what what problem does that solve?
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  S2: The problem that you need to communicate. Yeah. Communication problem.
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  S5: I guess it's that simple. Uh, that light over, you know,
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  S5: the shining on you right there, Ali, because by this
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  S5: studio has changed ever since we've gone on YouTube and
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  S5: Facebook reels and different things. What problem is that solving?
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  S2: Uh, darkness.
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  S5: Yeah. Solving darkness. I mean, you can do this with
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  S5: almost anything, right? The glasses we have on. Mhm. We
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  S5: can see that's a good thing. By the way, the
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  S5: first time I couldn't see it, it really I, I
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  S5: was I was in the middle of a message. This
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  S5: is in Alaska. I mean, I'm in the middle of
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  S5: a message and I've got the Bible and I'm pulling
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  S5: it closer to me because I couldn't see. And the
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  S5: closer I pulled it to me, the blurrier the words got. Oh, no.
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  S5: Now nobody knew what was going on. But I'm like
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  S5: on the fly trying to figure out why is this
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  S5: thing so out of focus? I got done with the
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  S5: message that day and I told my bride, I said,
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  S5: I better go get my eyes checked. And sure enough,
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  S5: you're having a problem reading letters, man. So glasses solve
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  S5: a problem for sight. And then the question you got
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  S5: to ask is, what is the problem Jesus solved? Well,
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  S5: John the Baptist said it, and it's found in John
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  S5: chapter one. And I love this. Behold the Lamb of
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  S5: God who takes away the sin of the world. It's
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  S5: right there.
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  S2: That's the problem.
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  S5: That's the problem. So let me be really clear with
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  S5: the gospel here today. The good news is that although
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  S5: you were born in sin, Jesus came to deal with
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  S5: your sin. Behold the Lamb of God that goes all
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  S5: the way back to Passover. It's the last, uh, it's
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  S5: it's the final plague. And it, I mean, it's the plagues.
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  S5: The ten plagues are just one of the most epic things.
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  S5: By the way. The first two plagues the Pharaoh's magicians.
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  S5: They could match it. Turning water into blood. They could
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  S5: match it the first couple of plagues they could match.
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  S5: By the time it got down to boils, the magicians
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  S5: couldn't even get up off their beds. They had boils
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  S5: so badly. And then it came to the Passover lamb
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  S5: And they took these unblemished lambs. And for a household
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  S5: or 2 or 3, because there was no rule like
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  S5: every you know, that's another thing that's really cool about God.
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  S5: There's no like hard and fast rule about how that
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  S5: had to go down. They just needed to get the
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  S5: blood of the lamb on the doorposts of the homes
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  S5: that the firstborn were not killed. That's why it's called Passover.
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  S5: God would pass over that house. And so the firstborn
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  S5: of all livestock in Egypt at that time, and the
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  S5: firstborn of all of Pharaoh's and all the Egyptian people,
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  S5: obviously did not take a Passover lamb. And there was
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  S5: wailing throughout that nation the next morning. But those were spared,
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  S5: that had that shed blood of that perfect lamb over
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  S5: the doorposts of their home. Guys, we were born in
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  S5: sin and there's no amount of effort that you can
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  S5: do to make this right, except for the pass over
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  S5: of the shed blood of Jesus Christ, who cleanses us
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  S5: of all sin. And so the problem that you have today,
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  S5: if you're not born again, is not that you're not
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  S5: good enough because you never can be. It's not that
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  S5: the the solution for the problem is not that you're
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  S5: born in Christianity, in a Christian home. It's not even
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  S5: that you go to church. It's not even that you give.
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  S5: That's not the solution for the problem. The only solution
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  S5: for your problem is the shed blood of Jesus Christ.
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  S5: And so this is why the gospel revolves around acknowledgement
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  S5: that I'm a sinner and receiving, not accepting, but receiving
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  S5: Jesus Christ as the Savior of your life. He becomes
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  S5: the Passover lamb for you. And that's a weighty thing
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  S5: because it's so much more than cultural Christianity. And I've
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  S5: been working on a project for a long time along
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  S5: these lines, and I'm more convinced than ever that it
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  S5: is very easy to be self deceived into thinking that
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  S5: you've received all that Jesus has for you by being
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  S5: swept up in a Christian home, in a Christian culture,
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  S5: but never having the blood of Christ that becomes the
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  S5: propitiation for your sin. Big fancy word for sins, past, present,
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  S5: and future. And some of you might say, well, man,
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  S5: if I accepted Him as Savior and he becomes the
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  S5: propitiation for my sin, doesn't that kind of give me
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  S5: a a blank slate to go out and do what
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  S5: I want to do? No, you misunderstand the atoning sacrifice
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  S5: of the blood of Jesus. The change is so demonstrative
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  S5: that The old has died, the new has come. We
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  S5: become new creations. Everything about us wants to live differently.
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  S5: And we now have the Holy Spirit indwelling us. That
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  S5: confirms in our heart that we're children of God. The
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  S5: spirit agrees with our spirit that we're children of God.
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  S5: And my great concern is for all of you listening
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  S5: is that we know that there's going to be a wide,
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  S5: sweeping cultural Christianity, because many will say on that day, Lord, Lord,
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  S5: he's going to say, I didn't know you. And they
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  S5: were very religiously active, and yet they're lost. And here's
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  S5: the hope. The hope is that the Spirit of God
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  S5: in this moment, no matter where you are driving, walking,
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  S5: listening at work, at home somewhere, I don't know where
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  S5: you are in this world. I don't know where you are,
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  S5: but God does. And he may have brought you here
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  S5: for this moment when the Spirit of God begins to
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  S5: convict you, because that's the role of the Holy Spirit
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  S5: of sin. And you recognize my problem is sin. And behold,
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  S5: the Lamb of God who came to take away the
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  S5: sin of the world. And that's powerful ally.
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  S2: It is. There's no other solution to the problem.
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  S5: None. None. You can't. You can't give enough of your time,
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  S5: your talent, or your treasure to get right with God.
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  S5: You can't give enough. You can't sing loud enough. You
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  S5: can't lift your arms high enough. You can't watch enough kids.
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  S5: You can't do enough good to get squared with God.
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  S5: And it's a humbling thing when you got to come
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  S5: face to face with the fact that, man, I'm a
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  S5: sinner and I need someone to save my soul. And
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  S5: I just want to rehearse again. This term sin means
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  S5: to miss the mark. It's the gap between the bull's
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  S5: eye on the target and where your arrow or spear
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  S5: lands with all of your great efforts. And no matter
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  S5: how great your efforts are, you can't hit the bull's eye.
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  S5: It's impossible. But Jesus hit the bull's eye for us.
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  S5: And right now, in this moment, somebody is convicted that I.
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  S5: I am a sinner, and I've never come to grips
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  S5: with that fact. And I'm asking you to cry out
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  S5: to God, because salvation is a cry of the soul
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  S5: that just says, save me, man. Paint the blood of
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  S5: Jesus over the doorposts of my heart. I'm a sinner, Karl.
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  S5: I'm ready to admit it. Today. I need a Savior.
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  S5: Because our problem is sin. And the Lamb of God
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  S5: came into this world to save sinners like you and me.
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  S5: And if the cry of your heart today, for the
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  S5: first time in your life, is to say, I'm a sinner.
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  S5: And here's how it works. The Spirit of God is
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  S5: revealing to you that, no, I've never surrendered my life
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  S5: to Jesus by confessing and coming to grips with that
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  S5: heart rending moment where you say, I'm the problem. Jesus,
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  S5: save me. Today can be your day of salvation. And
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  S5: it's a cry of the soul. And that cry of
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  S5: I'm a sinner, save me will be followed by this
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  S5: radical transformation. The old is gone. The new has come.
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  S5: Where new creations in Christ. I've been crucified with Christ.
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  S5: What happens when he paints the blood of Jesus on
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  S5: your soul? You've now been crucified with Christ because he
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  S5: took that sin of yours to the cross. It's no
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  S5: longer now you who live, but Christ who lives in you.
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  S5: There's this power transfer from God through His Son Jesus,
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  S5: into your life in the Spirit of God now infuses
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  S5: you with this living power in this hope and this
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  S5: direction in your life. And so I'm just asking you
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  S5: right now, are you going to cry out finally, once
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  S5: and for all? No more playing games or trying to
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  S5: skirt the issue that you're a sinner and the Lamb
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  S5: of God came to deal with it. And if that's
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  S5: the cry of your soul today, you will repent. You
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  S5: will turn around. You will follow Jesus by the power
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  S5: of the Holy Spirit that now fills you. You will
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  S5: turn and you will surrender all you are to him. See,
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  S5: if you confess with your mouth, Jesus is Lord. That
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  S5: means he's the highest authority in your life. No one
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  S5: can say that apart from the blood of Jesus. You
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  S5: can't do it. But if that's you today. Welcome to
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  S5: the family. Just cry out to God right now and
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  S5: say I'm a sinner. I need a savior. I'm giving
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  S5: everything I am over to you, God. All my dreams, aspirations, hopes, everything.
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  S5: I'm surrendering all I am to you today. Wherever you are, friend.
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  S5: Don't play with eternity. Don't play with today. Today is
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  S5: the day of salvation. Don't harden your heart and think
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  S5: I can do it. You can't do it. Jesus did
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  S5: it for you, for me, for Allie, for somebody. He
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  S5: can do it for you. And some of you right now,
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  S5: you have it happening. You know what's happening. Because Jesus said,
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  S5: come to me and you're coming to Jesus. Take my
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  S5: yoke upon you and learn from me, because that yoke
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  S5: you've been carrying is weighty. Man, it's been heavy, and
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  S5: now God is releasing you from that and you're feeling it.
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  S5: We want to help you and your first steps with
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  S5: Jesus right now.
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  S2: Just text the word new NEW to 805 557898. Text
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  S2: new to 805 557898. If today you are turning, today
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  S2: you are repenting. You are following Jesus. We want to
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  S2: help you. Text new to 805 557898.
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  S5: Yeah, we want to help you right now. Oh man,
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  S5: we hadn't planned on that one, but God's timing is perfect.
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  S5: Text new right now, wherever you are today is a
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  S5: brand new day. One word new to 805, five, five, 78, 98.
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  S5: And we're going to help you in your first steps
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  S5: with Jesus. What a great thing that God, in His
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  S5: mercy reached down. He loved you so much. He saved
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  S5: your soul today. It's a tremendous thing.