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- 0:04Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm christinamiot.
- 0:08Speaker 1: It's Monday, November three, twenty five. Anthony Albernizi says his
- 0:15Speaker 1: party's major policies will be squared away by January one.
- 0:19Speaker 1: The Prime Minister will prioritize universal childcare, environmental reform and
- 0:24Speaker 1: changes to Medicare in the final sitting weeks of the year,
- 0:28Speaker 1: following his longest absence from Parliament in his thirty year career.
- 0:32Speaker 1: The PM's exclusive interview with senior political reporter Sarah Eisen
- 0:36Speaker 1: is live right now at the Australian dot com dot au.
- 0:43Speaker 1: UK counter terrorism police are assisting with investigations after ten
- 0:48Speaker 1: passengers on a train in Cambridgeshire were stabbed on Sunday night.
- 0:52Speaker 1: Authorities arrested two people following the terrifying six minute attack,
- 0:56Speaker 1: which left all but one of the victims with life
- 0:59Speaker 1: threatening injes the Coalition would be resoundingly defeated if an
- 1:04Speaker 1: election was held tomorrow. That's according to a historic News
- 1:08Speaker 1: poll which has seen internal chaos push the Liberal and
- 1:12Speaker 1: National parties to new depths. But it's not all sunshine
- 1:16Speaker 1: and roses for the government either. Today political editor Jeff
- 1:20Speaker 1: Chambers joins me to unpack how the coalition got here
- 1:23Speaker 1: and what they do next. It's been a big few
- 1:31Speaker 1: months in Australian politics.
- 1:34Speaker 2: We recognize the legitimate, unlong held aspirations of the people
- 1:39Speaker 2: of Palestine.
- 1:40Speaker 1: I'll tell you this one is they've got a great
- 1:43Speaker 1: They really have a great prime minister.
- 1:45Speaker 2: It's not really conducive to being effective for me, nor
- 1:49Speaker 2: effective for them to remain in the room.
- 1:53Speaker 1: I don't like you either, and it probably.
- 1:57Speaker 3: Never will go h It's probably not real reason that
- 2:00Speaker 3: he continue in the role, because the Shadow Home Affairs
- 2:03Speaker 3: Minister Andrew Hasty has resigned from the Liberal front bench,
- 2:07Speaker 3: declaring he can no longer remain silent on the issue
- 2:10Speaker 3: of immigration. He knew, he understood, and still he wore
- 2:17Speaker 3: the T shirt.
- 2:18Speaker 2: The National's Federal Council passing a motion to abandon support
- 2:22Speaker 2: for achieving net zero emissions.
- 2:32Speaker 3: I'm not come.
- 2:41Speaker 1: And voters, well, they're not having a bar of it.
- 2:45Speaker 2: So there's a few records broken in this newspoll that
- 2:49Speaker 2: was conducted between Monday and Thursday last week.
- 2:52Speaker 1: Jeff Chambers is The Australian's political editor.
- 2:56Speaker 2: Since the May III election, we've twice written that the
- 3:00Speaker 2: coalition's primary vote was the worst on record since primary
- 3:04Speaker 2: votes were first counted by a news poll in November
- 3:07Speaker 2: nineteen eighty five. What this poll tells us is that
- 3:11Speaker 2: the Liberals and Nationals combined coalition primary vote is down
- 3:15Speaker 2: to twenty four percent, and compared to the last poll,
- 3:19Speaker 2: that's a very sizable decrease for Susan Lee's coalition. And
- 3:25Speaker 2: when you add that to Labour's primary vote which fell
- 3:27Speaker 2: a point down to thirty six percent, that combined share
- 3:32Speaker 2: for the major parties is now only sixty percent, So
- 3:36Speaker 2: that's another record. That's the lowest combined major party primary
- 3:41Speaker 2: vote since nineteen eighty five. But it's not all great
- 3:45Speaker 2: reading for the Prime Minister. The level of dissatisfaction with
- 3:49Speaker 2: his leadership is at its highest now, so that's up
- 3:52Speaker 2: three percent to fifty one percent dissatisfied with his performance.
- 3:57Speaker 2: But obviously, in contrast to in Lee and where the
- 4:01Speaker 2: coalition is that the government would easily win an election,
- 4:06Speaker 2: the two party preferred vote is still at a very
- 4:09Speaker 2: big margin of fifty seven to forty three.
- 4:14Speaker 1: So if voters aren't behind the major parties, where have
- 4:18Speaker 1: they gone?
- 4:19Speaker 2: A lot of that coalition vote is flowing to Pauline
- 4:22Speaker 2: Hanson's One Nation. One Nation's primary vote is up to
- 4:26Speaker 2: fifteen percent, which is their highest ever and their previous
- 4:31Speaker 2: highest mark of thirteen percent was all the way back
- 4:35Speaker 2: in June nineteen ninety eight. The Other's pile, which includes
- 4:39Speaker 2: minor parties and independents, they've also risen to fourteen percent,
- 4:45Speaker 2: while the Greens have fallen one percent down to eleven.
- 4:48Speaker 2: So you're seeing vote coming off the coalition, Labor and
- 4:52Speaker 2: the Greens, and it's almost like a bit of a
- 4:56Speaker 2: protest vote, you know, we're seeing votes splattering now out
- 4:59Speaker 2: to One Nation and other minor parties and independents.
- 5:07Speaker 1: Since she was appointed leader of the Liberals in May,
- 5:10Speaker 1: Susan Lee has been trying to contain a party in
- 5:13Speaker 1: crisis on top of a historic election loss. There's been infighting,
- 5:18Speaker 1: public blowups, resignations, and policy confusion. But as we get
- 5:23Speaker 1: to the pointy end of the year, the question is
- 5:26Speaker 1: can she keep her job and can the coalition keep
- 5:29Speaker 1: traveling the same path.
- 5:33Speaker 2: Her net approval rating started off at about minus seven
- 5:38Speaker 2: immediately after the election in our first News poll in July.
- 5:41Speaker 2: That has now crashed to minus thirty three percent, So
- 5:46Speaker 2: there are only twenty five percent of voters polled who
- 5:50Speaker 2: are satisfied with her performance and fifty eight percent who
- 5:53Speaker 2: were dissatisfied. And to put that in context, Peter Dunton
- 5:57Speaker 2: was never a popular opposition leader, but this is by
- 6:01Speaker 2: far and away much worse than Peter Duttan's poorest net
- 6:06Speaker 2: approval rating, and this puts Susan Lee now into territory
- 6:09Speaker 2: of other unpopular opposition leaders. So we're talking Alexander Downer,
- 6:15Speaker 2: John Hewston, Simon Crane, Kim Bisley and Bill Shorten when
- 6:20Speaker 2: he was running pretty poorly there. They're in a pretty
- 6:23Speaker 2: poor shape right now. I mean, typically we've seen both
- 6:27Speaker 2: the major parties suffer heavy defeats, but after the collective
- 6:33Speaker 2: disasters of the twenty two and namely the twenty five election,
- 6:37Speaker 2: it's a numerical situation. There just isn't many Liberals left
- 6:41Speaker 2: in the building and a lot of the more talented
- 6:44Speaker 2: liberal MPs have lost their seats at the last two elections,
- 6:48Speaker 2: so it's a bit of a talent pool issue. We're
- 6:50Speaker 2: about to enter the second final parliamentary sitting week of
- 6:54Speaker 2: the year, and famously this period in Australian politics has
- 6:58Speaker 2: become known as the killing season. And while there is
- 7:01Speaker 2: no sort of coordinated war room or obvious candidate that's emerging,
- 7:08Speaker 2: the effect of this news poll could actually see that
- 7:12Speaker 2: back room chattering progress to something a bit more organized
- 7:16Speaker 2: and Susan Lee has a lot to navigate. The National
- 7:20Speaker 2: Party has come out and opposed net zero by twenty fifty.
- 7:25Speaker 2: There's a lot of divided opinion in the Liberal party
- 7:28Speaker 2: room as to what position they'll take, so that net
- 7:32Speaker 2: zero piece, that energy policy piece, and most importantly keeping
- 7:38Speaker 2: the show together because ever since the Male election, you'd
- 7:41Speaker 2: expect some in fighting, some differences of opinion, but this
- 7:45Speaker 2: has now run for a long period of time where
- 7:48Speaker 2: almost every week you'll hear a senior Liberal MP or
- 7:53Speaker 2: National MP seemingly undermining their leader. And we've seen that
- 7:57Speaker 2: in the last fortnight and I think that she's very
- 8:01Speaker 2: much now in his zone where she has to probably
- 8:04Speaker 2: be a bit bolder and make decisions a bit faster
- 8:07Speaker 2: than she thought she'd have to.
- 8:09Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think a poll like this adds a
- 8:11Speaker 1: layer of inevitability to recent moves made by opposition figures
- 8:15Speaker 1: like Barnaby Joyce, who said that his place in the
- 8:18Speaker 1: Nationals party room is untenable. And Andrew Hasty and just
- 8:21Speaker 1: Into NumPy and for Price, who've both quit the front
- 8:24Speaker 1: bench despite being touted as possible future leaders at various points.
- 8:29Speaker 2: I think the departures of just Into their Juniper Price
- 8:32Speaker 2: and Andrew Hasty were very damaging for Susan Lee. I
- 8:37Speaker 2: think Barnaby Joyce is on another level. He's as much
- 8:39Speaker 2: more of a personality conflict with David Little Proud and
- 8:42Speaker 2: his disillusionment with the National Party. But for those young
- 8:46Speaker 2: up and coming Liberal MPs and senator in Senator Price,
- 8:52Speaker 2: that is not a good early sign. I think it's
- 8:55Speaker 2: the job of the leader to be able to bring
- 8:58Speaker 2: together orring factions and tribes and get everyone on the
- 9:02Speaker 2: same page. And if you can't do that, ultimately that
- 9:07Speaker 2: pressure is going to build and any mistake you make,
- 9:10Speaker 2: or any mistake it becomes more and more of a
- 9:13Speaker 2: focal point in terms of the threat to her leadership.
- 9:19Speaker 1: Coming up. The MPs are back in town, but the
- 9:22Speaker 1: mood is far from celebratory. This is, as you said,
- 9:33Speaker 1: the second last sitting week of the year. How much
- 9:36Speaker 1: attention are the major parties paying to polls like this
- 9:39Speaker 1: one and are they worried about it or should they be?
- 9:42Speaker 2: I think that publicly you'll hear plenty politicians on Monday
- 9:46Speaker 2: coming out and saying poles come, poles go. The historic
- 9:50Speaker 2: nature of this pole and those record lows for the
- 9:54Speaker 2: coalition can't be ignored. And internally behind closed doors, this
- 10:01Speaker 2: is certainly going to be a point of conversation, and
- 10:05Speaker 2: the interesting aspect we will see to be whether it
- 10:07Speaker 2: goes from disenchantment with the direction of the Liberal Party
- 10:11Speaker 2: under Susan Lee to whether there is any organization against
- 10:15Speaker 2: Susan Lee heading into that final parliamentary week of the year.
- 10:19Speaker 2: The flip side of the argument is Susan Lee is
- 10:21Speaker 2: the first female Liberal leader. She hasn't had that long
- 10:25Speaker 2: to have a crack. We've got a long summer break
- 10:28Speaker 2: coming up, and then we head towards a May budget
- 10:31Speaker 2: where she would have an opportunity to do a budget reply.
- 10:34Speaker 2: So the feeling had been to date that Susan Lee
- 10:37Speaker 2: would be given time. But if she can't recover that
- 10:41Speaker 2: position and the polling shows that support keeps dripping away
- 10:46Speaker 2: from the coalition, the leadership will come into question.
- 10:51Speaker 1: Jeff Chambers is the Australian's Political editor. You can read
- 10:57Speaker 1: his in depth analysis of this historic Newspole result, plus
- 11:00Speaker 1: all the nation's best news, sports, politics and business right
- 11:04Speaker 1: now at the Australian dot com dot au