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Pirates Call Up Bubba Chandler · The 3-0 Take

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Hey, Gordon, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three
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O Take where we talk all things Major League Baseball.
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Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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It all starts right now. Welcome back to the Three O Take
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presented by Chinook. Cedry, this is episode 561.
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I'll be your host, Kyle Corn. I'm here with my Co host Nate
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Reyes. Nate.
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Casey, how are we? I'm watching all of your
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favorite things right now and MLB beginning, I'm watching the
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Yankees play at Steinbrenner Field.
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As an away game. As an away game, I'm watching
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the Mets. I'm watching the White Sox, who,
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if I recall, I believe you said should be burned down.
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Moved. No, you said move, you said burn
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down. Oh yeah, because it was like
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kind of like a whoops because of Chicago.
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Yeah. If you know, you know.
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Seemed a little aggressive, but yeah, I mean, this is this is
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prime viewing for you from for you, my friend.
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Speaking of prime viewing, we got a lot to talk about today,
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so let's just get right into it, Bubba.
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Actually, no. Let me, let me, let me take a
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step back. Just.
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Pump fake. Not prime viewing because the
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Pirates have decided to call up Bubba Chandler to be a bulk
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reliever. They've called up their top
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pitching prospects. Top pitching prospect in
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baseball to be a bulk reliever. That's pretty.
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It's pretty disappointing. I don't get it, man.
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What do you got to lose? What do you have to lose?
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What a what a miserable franchise like I what are we?
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What are we playing for? Middle relief for what?
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Bulk relief for what? What I don't understand is why,
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why, why call him up to get his quote UN quote Major League
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experience? Why not just let him finish out
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the year in the minors? Because he as it stands right
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now, he is not. He is not throwing well posted
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AA133 ER 8 April, 254 in May. But then, as of his last couple
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starts or last few starts, he's got a 750.
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So why not? Why not just let him?
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Why not? Why not just let this year run
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its course and then build up to something for next year?
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Why? I do not know.
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You're not even going to give the kid a chance to let his
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family know like when he's going to be making his debut, which I
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know in the grand scheme of things isn't something probably
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that the Pirates really care about or really any Major League
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team for that matter. However, the top pitching
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prospects and you're just going to roll them out there in a in a
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12 to 2 blowout. They really botch everything,
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don't they? Everything.
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There are a few. Teams that you can look at and
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be like, we probably could manage this, we could probably
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run this organization better. The Pirates are one of those
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teams. This is a this is just a a clear
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cut botching of butchery. Your a clear, yeah clear cut
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butchery of your top arm and I don't.
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Yep Yep Yep. It's embarrassing.
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It's like the kid doesn't really lack confidence from the from
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the quotes I've seen coming out of the Bubba camp.
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It's not a it's not about confidence.
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It's it's about handling. Handling an arm, handling a
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player who your entire fan base has anxiously been awaiting the
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arrival of. And even outside of Pittsburgh,
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I know there's plenty of non Pirates fans who are like, when
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are we getting this Bubba Chandler guy up?
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Because we want to watch him dice, especially after the way
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he threw it last year, I think and like at the end of last
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year, AAA, it's it's just malpractice.
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And this isn't the first time we've seen it with the Pirates.
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Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's it sucks that it's
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like I want to be pumped for it. I'd be excited.
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I'd like to. I'd like to plan my night around
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it. I'd like to plan my night around
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that debut. Doesn't have to be right now.
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Why are they doing it right now? And who gets bounced?
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Is it Andrew Heaney to get the axe?
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That's what. That's what.
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Our sources are are saying that's.
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What our source has said. Who's that source?
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Who's to say I I don't frankly know or.
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Inside source may or may not be in the chat soon, we don't know.
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Personally, I don't know if it's he or not.
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Frankly, don't care. I can't even.
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I mean, you know, I'll do this for Bubba.
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Can you remove? This that's all he gets though,
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Bubba, I'm sorry, man. This it look, it's nothing
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personal. It's not your fault.
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It's it's you would have gotten the full clip if the if your
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team knew how to handle you better, knew how to manage your
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career better. But managing careers is not what
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the Pirates do. However, though I am excited to
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see if and when the time comes, I'll just say when the time
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comes that Bubba Chandler is inserted into that rotation on a
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regular basis. You know, while I don't foresee
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Paul Schemes being there a day longer than he's required to be,
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I am excited to see what what that rotation could look like
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for a little while. Between it makes you wonder if
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like we're going to see like the this era's Scherzer and
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Verlander and like Tiger uniform, you know what I mean?
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Like just like a repeat. And then like we'd Fast forward
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down the road 10 years and we're like, yo, these two are in the
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same rotation. You never know.
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It's going to be interesting to see.
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I don't, I don't necessarily hate the fact that they're
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calling him up to like, I don't mind the fact that like we can
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kind of get these jitters out of the way.
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We can kind of get any, any like big league hiccups out of the
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way. Not saying he won't, you know,
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trip and fall throughout his career.
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Like maybe we can get some of this stuff out of the way now
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and then just hopefully hit the ground running going into next
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year and maybe you can establish yourself as the number 2 starter
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there next year, you know, in in spring training, maybe, I don't
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know. Jerry Jones is not coming back
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next year, right? Not to start the year.
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I would I would venture to say he.
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Would is he going to make it back in time?
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No. No, no, definitely not for the
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start of the year. I don't, I don't believe.
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But I mean, at some point you'll see a rotation that features
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him. Skeens Chandler, Although it
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makes me go going back to your point about like, well, are we
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going to look back at this and be like they were in the same
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rotation, unlike the way that we do with the Dodger or the the
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Tigers? Excuse me, we're not going to
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look back at that rotation and be like, how did that pirates
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team, how did that era of Pirates teams not win a World
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Series? That's the that's the big
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difference there between the the Tigers example.
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But I'm I'm with you, I'm with you on the rotation.
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But yeah, the whatever I'm I'm I'm out on the way.
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They it's just it's, it's anti climactic, it's lackluster, it's
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manipulation, it's uncertainty, it's all of the things that the
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pirates love to love to roll out with any sort of move or
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announcement. It's it's just how they do
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things. So regard like I said regarding
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this year, not all that not all that excited, but we'll see
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hopefully, hopefully things are we hit the ground running with
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that rotation next year and and 2026 will behold a little more
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excitement. Behold Speaking of excitement,
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this Yankees team seems to have figured it out offensively.
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No, tell me tell me about it. We we just witnessed a their
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second nine Homer game of the season, which I got to be honest
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with you, I don't I don't think I realized that they did it the
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first time in what, like the second game of the season?
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Is that what I read because I forgot I was like, how how long
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ago we talking here? Was this recent?
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No, it was literally the second. Game this is That was the spark
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of the torpedo bats. That's right.
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That's right. You know, I was, I side note
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here, I was thinking about that the other day and I was just
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thinking of various, various events from the season to really
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put into perspective how long this year has felt.
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Torpedo bats feel like a while ago, huh?
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That feels like last year almost, the fact that Raphael
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Devers was on this Red Sox team. This year, I don't.
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It's just, you know, it just feels rather long.
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Any who's? Pretty wild.
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Looks like the Yankees have have maybe figured something out.
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I mean, offense has never really been a part of the issue.
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They lead the league in in a lot of big categories offensively,
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but they also it's just it's very tall peaks and very low
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valleys per huge, a little bit of a hot streak.
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I guess that helps that torn Steinbrenner field is tiny and
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it's a home away from home. I guess that helps.
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I think I, I heard something recently that like if you remove
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their games that they've scored 10 plus runs this year, which is
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a lot. They're under 500, something
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crazy like that. There's like a good chunk of
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games that they've scored more than ten runs, so they just, it
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kind of shows up and then other stuff shows up when they suck,
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you know what I mean? Bad base running rough defense,
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whatever it may be. Think they have the highest?
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Bad bullpen. I think they got the most runs,
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score like top three and run scored.
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This year, that's what I'm saying, like offense.
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Offense is not really the the problem here.
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It's just a lot of the other stuff.
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But yeah, it's cool to see, man. Caballero got in there twice.
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I like Caballero, by the way. That guy, you freaking hate him
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if he's playing anywhere else but he he's on your team.
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You're like, I love this guy. I, I have to admit, I saw this
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name pop up when when this game was happening and they're just
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launching ball after ball and I'm like I in the flurry of
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things, I completely forgot Cabrera was on the team.
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I know, I know. But I'm with you.
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I feel the same way. And we've talked about him
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before. The guy hate the guy.
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If if he's anywhere else except your team, there's there's
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there's a handful of of names around the league that are that
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fit, that fit that bill. But you know, whatever, I'm
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happy. Happy for you, I guess.
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Yeah, he got into a couple, barely got into a couple.
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Stanton looks pretty good. So I don't know, we'll see this.
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I mean, this four-game set with the Yanks, I mean with the Sox
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this weekend is like kind of all that matters, you know what I
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mean? Really doesn't matter what
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everything leading up to this. It's just this is the true
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barometer. I think this series kind of
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tells us what the rest of the season is going to come down to.
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I'm glad you brought this up. How are you feeling?
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You well, I was going to ask would oh, you're interested?
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Could I interest you? Could I interest you in in a?
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Wager of sorts? What kind of wager?
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We have to think on this. We can revisit it at the end if
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I think of something, but something will have to be agreed
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upon prior to first pitch of game one because as you
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mentioned, this is a four-game set coming up.
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So, yeah, yeah. I don't know.
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Here's what I will say Sunday. I have my fantasy draft starting
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literally 30 minutes after first pitch Sunday night baseball, so
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I'm not going to watch like any of the game, which kind of makes
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me feel like a wagers just may not be worth it, you know what I
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mean? Pitching wise looks nice for the
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Yanks. It lines up nice.
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I don't know how the how it lines up for the Sox.
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We've got our, we've got our arms going.
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We've got, I think we've got crochet going.
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I thought it was Friday, but looking like Saturday, maybe
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Brian Baio versus Max for, oh, that's Friday Game 1.
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Lucas Gilido versus Luis Gil, Brian Baio versus Max Freed,
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Saturday Crochet versus Will Warren, and then Sunday, Sunday
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Night Baseball, Dustin May versus Carlos Rodon.
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It's going. To be electric?
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I don't know, maybe not. I mean, I, I threw a wager out
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and you backed away from it because of foot, because of your
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fans, just football draft. I don't get to watch if I can't
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watch. It's like, what's the point of
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of the wager? We'll revisit it if we need to.
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We'll revisit it about it. Speaking of revisiting, can we
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revisit this Kyle Tucker collapse downfall?
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What is going on with Kyle Tucker right now?
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I guess I didn't really realize it's been pooped.
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Do you understand? How do you need?
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Do you want me to walk, walk you through how bad it's been?
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It's been horrendous. We are now at 31.
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Yesterday was A and even 30 days since his last home run.
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We are now at 31 days without a Kyle Tucker home run.
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We're at two extra base hits. Count them two extra base hits
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since a month ago today, July 20th.
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Since July 20th, he's hitting 171.
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Coming into today, 14 hits, 5 ribbies, and an OPS of 5/22.
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You think that's bad? Let's take it to the beginning
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of July. Let's extend this out even
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further. Since July 1st, Kyle Tucker's
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hitting 189 with a single home run, 10 RB is and an OPS of 562
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for 20 coming into today, 2 for 25 in his past seven games and
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eight for 54 in the month of August.
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He's not running the first. He's slamming his helmet.
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He's been benched. He's in a contract here.
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This is and like, I hate to single them out, but like I, you
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know, it was on me for not not addressing this the last time we
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talked about the Cubs on a on a on a larger scale.
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And part of that was me thinking like, well, he's bound to turn
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it around in the next week or so.
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No, it like it continues to be bad and there's no signs of him
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really turning around. He's not he's not it's like it
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it's not even the situation of Kyle Tucker making loud contact.
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He's in the blue. Well, he's in like the the
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lightish blue on exit Velo hard hit percentage barrels not that
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great. That's 67th bat speeds 40s.
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Like it's just not I, I, I don't know what it is.
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And I've seen people calling like for him to just take an
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extended like vacation. He's got that weird finger
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thing. They're like, we'll just roll
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this into like a 10 day stay on the ILI don't know what's
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happening. In the Phantom IO visit, maybe
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that's all that is. Oh boy, his buddy, his buddy
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PCAI think has has cooled down significantly.
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I think he he maybe has turned it on as of late, but there for
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a while he really was was plummeting back down to earth.
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I feel like every team that is in the running is ear to ear
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smiling over this slump we're losing.
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I don't know, is 10s of millions of dollars in exaggeration?
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Like what are his overall numbers this year?
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Where are we at for the season? Is it enough to like start
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tanking those? No, he's had like, he's having
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an OK year, but for a guy that coming into the season, people
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are asking whether or not he was going to, he was going to match
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Vladdy's $500 million contract, I don't know that what he's done
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this year warrants that. What are the What's the line?
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What's this year's? Line 261, 18 homers, 62 RB is 25
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swipes. He's got a he's.
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He's already accumulated a WAR of 4.1, which I think I read is
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like a notch above Soto's actually.
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I mean, that's a good year. That's.
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What I'm saying it's a good year, but is it what I mean,
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what are we talking about here? Or is are our teams going to
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look at this and say, well, we'll give them the benefit of
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the doubt? I mean, sure, if there's a
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bidding war that takes place, then then you kind of just throw
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that argument out the window. Like people are like the market
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is going to pay them what these teams are willing to to outbid
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each other with. But just say it was down to one
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team, which it won't be. But just in a hypothetical
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situation, say one team was interested in Kyle Tucker,
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they're going to look at this and go, no, we're like we've
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seen, we've seen way too many guys burnt.
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Like how how many more examples of, and I've said this before,
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how many more examples of lengthy overpriced contracts do
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we need to see fail before teams start going not paying you that?
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And teams still do it. They still do it, but with a guy
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like Kyle Tucker, and I'm not writing Kyle Tucker's career off
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by any stretch. I'm just saying for this, this
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contract that he's due, I just don't know that he's been able
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to salvage the entirety of what he was going to get with the way
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he's hit the last two months, the better part of two months.
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I don't know, it's hard to say. 28 years old at the moment.
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Average is 5.8 WAR per season career 139 OPS plus.
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Yeah. I mean it's it's tough to say
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man. I think the good thing is that
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he doesn't strike out a ton. He obviously had provides a lot
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of value on the bases, so there's ways that he can impact
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the game, but he also doesn't walk a ton either.
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You know what I mean? It's good, but it's not great.
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It's just hard to, it's just hard to like be like, Oh yeah,
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he's a lock for half a bill. I don't know.
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All right, let's, let's do it. Let's let's roll with that
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exercise. Let's just say who's to who's to
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really know What if you take this back to opening day and you
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were to forecast to the end of the year and say, OK, what is
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Kyle Tucker going to get? And this is before any part of
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this season had played out. Let's just say that number.
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The answer to that question was 500 million.
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Some people may disagree. Some people may think it's too
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much. Some people may think it's not
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enough. Let's just say it was 500
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million. How much do we think as of right
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now? How?
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What do you think that number is now?
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400 you think he's lost $100 million with a somewhat lack
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level again for his standards, it's a Goodyear it's.
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AI think, I think that's what I think that's what we have to
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like. Remember is, is like if we're
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taking if, if this is a down year, I'd take it.
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But it like where do you draw that line financially?
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You know what I mean? If I is 28, I think some of
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these teams are going to be in the 12 year conversation, which
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I think is crazy, but that's to get the AAV down.
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If you put it at 400, that's 33.33 million a year.
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That's where I would put him. I think, I think the occasional
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MVP race, but I, I don't have him in that that upper echelon
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tier. Personally, I wouldn't give him
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12 years. I think my sweet spot, I mean,
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I'd, I'd say eight years and let's give him a $38 million per
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year that's at three O 4. I'd be happy with that.
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I'd feel comfortable with that as a team, but I think there's
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going to be some other teams that drive that up.
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No doubt, no doubt. You said 838.
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Yeah, eight years, 38 a year. Yeah, I think that's kind of
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that. I don't put them above 40 like
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I, I just. No, I don't know.
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I think he's good. I think he's really, really
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good. And I'm really I, I agree with
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you and I'm really, believe me, I'm not trying to be like a
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victim of the moment here and be like, oh, Kyle Tucker was just
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not deserving of a of a, a bag, but.
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I'm in the camp that it never should have even even been in
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the 500 conversation. I'm I'm.
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I'm also with you there, but it's, I don't know.
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It's it's it says to me, it says a lot to me.
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If this is how you handle a contract year.
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Like is it sort of unfair to dictate the next 10 years of a
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player based on how he performs in the year leading up to said
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contract? Yeah, I guess if that's solely
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what you're going to really judge him off of.
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But at the same time, like if you feel as though you're worthy
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of that kind of money, you better put you like you got to,
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you got to show up and and show out.
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And he just hasn't. He hasn't done that.
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And not only has he not done that, he's been, I don't want to
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can we say like a little, little bit of a head case as of late.
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And I get it. I'm, I'm sure the frustration
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has been building. He's getting booed out of
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Wrigley right now. I, I, I can only imagine that
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that's a just a miserable place to be, especially when you're
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reminded that this is a contract here.
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But again, if a team is going to commit X amount of years, X
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amount of hundreds of millions of dollars, you're, you're going
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to have to prove that you're worth it.
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And he's just not. He's not doing it right now.
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What do you do you have like the month to month splits pulled up
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by chance just over his career Like it It makes you wonder, is
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this is this a typical struggle phase and this is just the worst
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it's been? Let's see here you're saying
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month to month. Yeah, over his career.
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Let's see. I don't want.
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It's giving me a season. Hold on.
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Let me find his career. I can always find this when I'm
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just perusing around. Perusing.
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Here we go. Here we go.
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Career splits, all right, month to month.
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So we're in August, so really, let's go.
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September, which is absolutely absurd.
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So it's been well, so it's been the better part of two months.
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So let's go back. OK, so career June, he's a 312
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hitter. July plummets to 2:58.
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OK. And it only bumps up to 270 in
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August, September, October, however, it's 281.
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So I think an upward, an upward turn is is looming for Kyle
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Tucker. However, the numbers that I read
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off to you are. Definitely a lot lower than
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that. A lot lower than that.
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So even if there is an upward turn, I don't know if you can,
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if you're going to be able to balance it out that much to get
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you back above water. Yeah.
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It's hard to say, man. I don't know.
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It's probably just the added pressure, like you said, being
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in a walk here. I don't think the the postseason
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run is a factor. Obviously, just with him having
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so much success as an Astro, I think he's used to that.
29:07
It's kind of crazy to think that like normally you see like the
29:11
cold weather affect guys in Chicago early in the season and
29:15
then once it warms up, they heat up.
29:18
It's kind of been the opposite here.
29:19
But maybe he's a little tired. I don't know.
29:25
I don't know. I.
29:27
Kind of. It's a day off.
29:28
Well, he he doesn't, he has a day off.
29:30
He's benched. He's been benched.
29:31
Days off. Yeah, that's been happening.
29:34
Speaking of getting benched, Victor Robles is going to be
29:39
spending some time on a bench suspended for 10 games after
29:42
his. Just.
29:48
Meltdown, although I think if we're being fair here, seems
29:55
like it was kind of warranted. Now, I say that with the caveat
30:01
that I don't know if I'm, I'm not going to arrive at a, a
30:05
point where I'm condoning throwing bats.
30:08
However, the meltdown and just losing it, I kind of get because
30:14
when you go back, you, you put things into context over the,
30:18
the few days that led up to the bat being thrown.
30:23
You're like, OK, I kind of get where the where the hot
30:26
headedness was coming from. Do you, are you aware of like
30:30
everything that kind of led up to this?
30:32
All I saw was that he was like hit, hit by pitch like a bunch,
30:36
right? Bro was hit like 3-4 five times
30:40
and which was also kind of weird that he, he swung it like half
30:44
of them. But yeah, man, he, he got to the
30:49
he, he was, he had been hit so many times in such a short
30:52
stretch, short span that there was a couple, a or like one or
30:57
two ABS where he's in the furthest part of the box that
31:03
you can be in. And in fact, in that at bat when
31:09
there was 2 strikes, started walking back towards the dugout
31:12
before the ball had even crossed the plate.
31:15
And then the next day gets hit and it's like, I've had it picks
31:22
the bat up. Umpires like, whoa, brother,
31:25
relax. And wouldn't you know it, there
31:28
goes the bat. What are the kids call it
31:31
nowadays? Crash it.
31:33
The crash out. It crashed out.
31:34
This this was a crash out of crash outs if we've seen one.
31:38
Cool. Recently, man, this was a
31:41
meltdown. He apologized on social
31:45
afterwards. I haven't seen the angle of the
31:52
bat throw except for the side like the first base side.
31:57
That's the only angle I've seen you.
31:58
I doubt we're going to see it then.
32:00
This is a minor league operation.
32:01
I don't know that they've got a a bevy of camera angles.
32:06
I would have liked to seen was it was it ever close?
32:11
I don't know. What's your favorite crash out
32:15
as far as like from a from a hitter?
32:21
I like the I like, there's a couple.
32:31
I like the Manny. If we're talking crash outs
32:34
here, I like the Manny one where I think it was Clemens came up
32:38
and in but it was nowhere near his head.
32:43
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he. Was looking for it to be in his
32:47
head and just comes unglued and then what was another one?
32:53
The Bryce one always cracks me up where he throws the helmet at
32:56
Hunter Strickland and it goes like to first base.
33:01
That trend you remember where it was like the helmet would just
33:04
go just like flowing through space.
33:09
You remember those videos? I'll.
33:12
Tell you what, man, I love our sweet young Prince, but he has
33:16
his moments, man. Like I'm like, what are you
33:19
doing like that? And then the when they were
33:23
playing over in London slide, I'm like, dude, stop.
33:28
Yeah, that was those were no good.
33:30
I'll go, I'll throw it back in time.
33:32
Don't know who it was, but it's a classic clip of the kick to
33:38
the catcher's mask and then Sprint out.
33:41
This very much minded me of that.
33:43
I'm curious, like we know what park that was in because I'm
33:47
like it looks it looked kind of similar if I recall, but no,
33:51
that was I mean that's got to be that's top tier.
33:54
That means that's an A little. Bit electric, yeah.
33:58
I mean, that's like, that was like from the 70s, wasn't it?
34:02
No, dude, that was dude that was.
34:07
Oh boy. It was from our from from our
34:10
childhood. Who the?
34:13
Heck yeah, dude, I'm telling you.
34:14
No, I'm dead serious. It was a guy we watched when we
34:17
were younger. Who the Oh who the heck was it?
34:29
Izzy Alcantara. That's not who I remember that
34:31
being, I swear. Oh, no, no, no.
34:33
You know what I'm thinking of? Wasn't Jose Offerman.
34:43
You remember Jose Offerman? Does that name?
34:45
That name? Please tell me that name rings a
34:47
bell. No.
34:48
Oh man. I think Jose Offerman.
34:53
Yeah, the Izzy Alcantara 1, I think that was that was the one
34:59
I was thinking of, but I thought it was way older than that.
35:03
Oh yeah, this is the one. OK, check this out.
35:07
Let me get this. Picture on the loop.
35:09
So good. Let me get this picture up here
35:11
dude. This is the one I was thinking
35:13
of. Check this one out.
35:17
This is when I said Jose Offerman.
35:18
This is what I was thinking of. This one right here.
35:24
That's nice dude. Bro took the bat with him.
35:29
Those are some good crash outs man.
35:32
That's what I was thinking of when you were talking about the
35:35
OR. That's why that's why I thought
35:37
did the kicking. But that was not Jose Offerman.
35:39
This is Jose Offerman. Love me, what a crash out.
35:43
What a wild scene. Any who's?
35:46
Yeah, some funny, some not so funny.
35:49
More like concerning. Yeah, yeah.
35:53
I mean, you don't love to see it doesn't need to happen too
35:56
often, but I like them. I mean, if if we're talking
36:04
crash outs here, the the Robin Ventura, whatever was going
36:09
through his mind when he decided I'm going to head out, I'd have
36:14
a have a talking to with. I I think he, I think he
36:18
regretted it when he, when he almost got there, when he almost
36:22
got there. I I think he, I think it was a
36:26
rough decision. Yeah.
36:28
I also love when you see a first baseman come out of nowhere and
36:31
just level the hitter just off the frame.
36:34
Ray Lewis, flatten the hitter to protect the pitcher.
36:38
Those are my favorite. I think that happened with the
36:41
James shield. Somebody have to check me on
36:44
this James shield for the rays again.
36:47
He threw a Coco Crisp. Coco Crisp came running out Red
36:51
Sox and I believe. That was the OR Kevin Euclis was
36:59
involved. I think it was the punch.
37:01
And then like completely. Was that Coco Crisp?
37:05
That was Coco Crisp. I'm trying to think of the
37:08
example you mentioned with the first baseman Kevin Euclis
37:11
levelled somebody, if I recall it.
37:13
Obviously it wasn't that scenario because obviously he
37:16
would have been dugout, but Kevin Yuklas did that one time
37:21
and that he there's a level of guy out and yeah, I'm with you.
37:25
I love to see stuff like that. But yeah, you know, you know.
37:28
More of this I don't, I don't need to see the bat.
37:30
I don't need to see kicks to the face, but I'd like to see a
37:33
little more rumble, you know, always down for a little tussle.
37:39
Some hands being thrown. Yeah, we're about it.
37:42
We're due for it. Speaking of some this weekend
37:46
between our teams. I don't know.
37:48
How would you know you're not going to be watching?
37:51
I said Sunday, loser Sunday. That could be the one for all
37:56
the marbles. Could be, not really.
38:02
It can't. It's a four-game.
38:03
Set it. Could be for all the marbles.
38:06
If one team goes in with two wins and a loss, that's the
38:11
difference between a three one series win and a tie.
38:15
So. Yeah, it could be.
38:17
Marbles, yeah, I don't know. I'd say A31 series is pretty.
38:25
That's pretty substantial. Any who's Speaking of
38:28
substantial? Michael Harris, That'll that'll
38:35
wake you up. Michael Harris, the second over
38:39
the last 15 days slash games, hitting four O 6, seven home
38:47
runs, 18 RB is and an OPS of 12/19.
38:51
It was requested by by someone in our fantasy chat.
38:59
We're taking requests. We're taking requests, but like
39:03
I said, I'm not just going to throw somebody in Willy nilly if
39:06
if it's not warranted. In fact, I which you may have
39:10
not seen this on our on our shared note, I'd actually added
39:14
a name and removed it after did a little more digging around.
39:18
Not going to name the name, but just said no, doesn't meet the
39:24
criteria. What's the criteria you ask?
39:26
I don't know. I just know it when I see it.
39:28
And this particular individual, it's gut didn't didn't make the
39:32
cut. So maybe try, maybe try again
39:34
next week. Can you read stats again and I
39:37
missed it? Four O 6.
39:41
What's the span? 15 days, four O 6-7 homers, 18
39:48
ribbies and a 12/19 OPS, according to Sleeper MLB on
39:53
Twitter. In the last 15 days, he ranks
39:55
first in batting average, first in home runs, first in RBIs,
39:59
first in hits, first in slug and 2nd in OPS.
40:02
Let's. Go a couple weeks.
40:06
I'd like to see what that brings the overall numbers up to.
40:11
It's, I think it's been a strong second-half, like, not just
40:15
this. I've heard that.
40:16
This Spain, I think it go, it goes a little bit further than
40:18
that. So, so good.
40:20
On the it's up to 260 now. Good on Michael Harris you.
40:25
Up to seven O 5 OPS now. Talking about guys you've just
40:30
written off, that was another guy where you're like, I'm, what
40:33
was it that you said? You're like, I'm so I'm done,
40:37
man. I'm done with the hype.
40:39
This was no more than three weeks ago.
40:44
They still had a 95 OPS plus, so you're talking like, I don't
40:48
know, I'm not going to get a super.
40:52
Canon is Canon, but Canon ain't the overall Canon, you know what
40:56
I mean? It's a short little Canon.
41:05
Good, good couple. Weeks, though, I hear you.
41:08
Meaningless baseball down there in Atlanta.
41:12
Can we get a check real quick on that specifically the a, the
41:16
Braves and the Orioles, two teams that are kind of they're
41:19
pretty much out of it. But also like, I mean, or is
41:24
there any shot here? Where are we at with the Braves?
41:26
The Orioles have been kind of hot for like a month now.
41:30
They literally have. Oh no, I was going to say they
41:34
almost have the same record. Braves are 5769.
41:37
O's are 59 and 67. Yeah, always been hot Ish won
41:43
three straight or six and four in the last 10.
41:47
But I think if you extrapolate it out a little further, I think
41:50
it's I think it it's better than what that what that last 10
41:53
would show you. Yeah, but even still a cams
41:58
under. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
42:04
I think it's still it's it's it's still rough, but I think
42:07
it's respectable ball nowadays. Respectable.
42:10
Respectable. Speaking of the O's Trevor
42:15
Rogers over this last over his last five starts, he's three and
42:21
one with an ERA of one O 3 and 32 strikeouts going back to from
42:32
his June 23rd start on which amounts to looks like 10 starts.
42:41
He is not allowed more than two earned runs in any of those
42:44
starts, and he's putting up stupid numbers in fantasy for
42:52
those that care. Stupid Numbers
42:57
27112220122624142123 Gross and on the.
43:04
Year. Some people are still paying
43:08
attention to fantasy, not I. You're still making moves.
43:14
I see. I see in the transaction.
43:16
I just had to make sure that I won the first week of the
43:19
consolation bracket. You know, that's it.
43:21
After that, I'm kind of, you know.
43:28
On the year, I'm still fighting for my life out here.
43:31
I'm still, I'm still grinding out here in these streets.
43:33
Trevor Rogers though on the year having having a very solid year,
43:40
ERA of 141, a WHIP of .80 across 76 and a third innings 67 KS to
43:48
just sixteen walks. Very nice cannon.
43:57
Oh yeah, here we go. This is from Lewis analysis on
44:02
Twitter. Trevor Rogers, 2025 seasons
44:06
Widely overlooked since 2000, Trevor Rogers 141 ERA Ranks
44:10
third among single season ERA by starter with a minimum 70
44:15
innings pitch, trailing only 2012 Chris Medlin and 2021 Jacob
44:21
degrom. It's good company.
44:27
Which one's Trevor again? The one that pitches for the
44:32
O's. No disrespect, as I've
44:34
mentioned. Yeah, noted.
44:36
That's that's crazy, dude. I just, I just explained to you
44:41
who we're talking about here. I know and I think I played with
44:43
them. And and lastly.
44:48
Whoops. Hold on, I've asked you this
44:51
like a dozen times. Can we confirm?
44:52
Is this the one whose? Phone number.
44:54
I don't. I don't know.
44:55
I don't know. Can you play Tyler or Trevor?
44:57
I can never remember. I can.
44:59
Whoever it is and be like, yo, are you the one that's like kind
45:02
of good or are you the one that's?
45:03
Like kind of Tyler, I have Tyler, I have Tyler.
45:07
I'm sure, I'm sure he changed his number.
45:10
I had since then. I don't understand how that
45:12
happens, but any who's I? Don't know either.
45:15
Lastly here, Jacob Lopez of my Sacramento A's over his last six
45:25
starts, four and one, with an ERA of 18-O42 strikeouts.
45:31
He has given the A's in his last three starts 10 strikeouts in
45:40
his most recent, 9 the outing before that and eight the outing
45:45
before that in that span. Those 27 strikeouts are the most
45:50
in baseball. So Jake Lopez, Jacob, no, stop.
45:55
I'm not. Nope, not going to allow it.
45:58
You're not. You can't just jump camp
46:00
whenever you want to. What?
46:01
Are you talking about? I've never left that camp, OK?
46:06
I'm not even going to dignify that with a response.
46:11
Speaking of a camp, I've never left our guy.
46:14
No, you know what, he would. I didn't even have him listed in
46:18
the credit Canon segment. But he is our boy, and he just
46:23
reached the fat, the youngest royal to do it.
46:28
By the way, our boy, our sweet boy.
46:34
Bobby Witt, Junior, 100. Sweet young Prince right here.
46:40
No, the real no, no, he even he would disagree with you, the
46:45
real Prince. You'd say no, no, I'm not this.
46:49
I'm not this too old. That's no, you're all wrong.
46:55
Bobby Witt Junior, the youngest royal to hit the hundred career
46:59
Homer mark. Promo code 3 O take 10% off
47:05
Chinook seeds. Next, cedary.com.
47:11
That broke Carlos Beltran's previous record of 26 years and
47:14
108 days back in 2003. Bobby Witt did it at 25 years
47:18
old and 66 days on. Freaking.
47:22
Stud, that's our boy man going out there and making us proud.
47:29
Love to see that for the kid. Love to see that.
47:32
You know what I don't love to see Felix Batista back on the
47:38
shelf. Another major surgery getting
47:42
his torn rotator cuff and torn labrum repaired.
47:46
So he will be out. I think I saw minimum of 12
47:51
months. So miss.
47:54
Going to miss the remainder this year.
47:57
Going to miss a good portion of next year.
48:03
That sucks man. It's tough.
48:07
He came back this year and had I think what was it, 19 saves?
48:12
Yeah, 19 saves and ERA OF26-O and was only able to tally 34
48:19
2/3 innings this year. So another another tough blow
48:24
for the OS. However, yeah, lore in the chat.
48:29
We don't expect Felix back till 2027.
48:31
That's probably a safe bet, especially with the the
48:35
back-to-back in nature it seems of of.
48:39
Yeah. Being being put on the shelf the
48:42
way he has, probably better to take it a little slower this
48:45
time around and just maybe punt till 2027.
48:48
But. You'd think that maybe we'd get
48:52
back to pitching at some point in this sport.
48:58
Just maybe. What is enough?
49:01
Enough, You know what I mean. How many elbow surgeries do we
49:05
need to see? While the sad reality of it is,
49:11
and I'm not just so I'm not talking Batista here, I'm
49:13
talking more broadly here, the more guys that can come up and
49:19
pump 101, the more dispensable these guys become and the less
49:27
that these teams are going to care.
49:29
They're just going to say, OK, next guy up, it's going to
49:33
become a factory. We're just pumping 101 out one
49:37
guy after the next. It's not going to they're
49:40
they're not going to do anything about it.
49:48
Don't know, man. It just is.
49:50
I don't know. I don't know what it takes
49:52
actually. Go ahead.
49:55
No, that's a great thought. That's a great thought.
49:57
I was just going to say this is like baseball's The the, the,
50:03
the UCL, the elbow, the shoulder epidemic in baseball is like our
50:08
version of the concussion. CTE stuff in football.
50:15
Well, yeah, less about the result and more about just the
50:20
conversation that surrounds it and like the the stigma where
50:24
it's like, we don't need to talk about that, Just watch this guy
50:28
throw 102. It's like.
50:31
At some point we need to have these conversations because we
50:39
at some point the human body is going to top out like you're
50:42
going to Max out you can. And I remembered, I remember a
50:47
friend of the pod, Dallas Braden talked about this, or he may
50:50
have even tweeted about it, but he's talking about, and you were
50:56
in coaching more recently than I would.
50:58
So you would probably be able to work through the details of what
51:02
he said more. But he's just talking about like
51:04
the recoil and the stress that that puts on your arm and the
51:08
harder you're throwing, you eventually get to a point where
51:11
your arm isn't able to to, to stop the forward motion the same
51:16
way and recoil the same way. And that that stress is what
51:19
ultimately leads to the demise of the arm.
51:23
And he's basically just talking about how like, we're eventually
51:25
going to get to a point where it's you are not going to be
51:28
able to go any further physically.
51:32
So that's kind of where we're headed, it seems.
51:35
But I guess these these franchises are just going to
51:39
pinch their nose and hold their ground.
51:43
Keep on trucking. Last thing I got here, merch
51:51
drop on Friday. That's nice.
51:57
There's some good stuff coming. New merch dropping Friday.
52:04
Let's see, is there anything I can like, hint at?
52:09
Oh, well, some some of what's included.
52:13
We actually. We've already discussed.
52:15
It we were talking about in in plain sight, in open air on
52:22
Sunday when we're. Shouting out to those hanging
52:24
out for the stream. When we were keeping our keeping
52:27
book, teaching folks how to keep book, we were just talking about
52:29
it right there in the open. And and sure enough, those one
52:33
or two of those items may have stuck their way into the drop.
52:36
But yeah, we've got let me see here.
52:41
Got some actually, no, I'm not even going to say it.
52:46
Those have to wait and see. Yeah, I like that.
52:50
Friday. Friday, Good stuff for the for
52:55
the fall, you know. Oh yeah.
52:57
For autumn, does anyone still say autumn?
53:03
Anyone out there still? I feel like that's like a
53:07
someone saying supper instead of dinner.
53:09
Yep, I don't say supper and I certainly don't say autumn.
53:14
Me neither. I wouldn't mind being a supper
53:18
person someday. I think that's something that
53:20
you just. That's in your future, I can see
53:22
it. You just kind of ease into it,
53:26
get some, get you a nice little 5:00 supper.
53:28
Well, you're not. You're not saying supper in
53:31
Arizona in Chandler, AZ? Yeah, it's true.
53:35
You got to get South in East. I can't go much further South.
53:41
Otherwise it turns into Dang what's dinner in Spanish?
53:55
That's not where you where I thought you're going with that.
53:57
Well, that's what's South of us. It's breakfast is Desai Uno, if
54:05
I'm not mistaken. Lunch is is it like ALM almuerso
54:14
or something? Almuerza.
54:19
Oh no, it is. The masculine is almuerso.
54:21
How about look at that pole? Breakfast.
54:24
A masculine lunch. Heck yeah, brother.
54:29
Breakfast is Desai Uno the OK and then hold on dinner.
54:33
I wanted to say dinero. That's that's money.
54:37
That's. Too easy, that was That was too
54:38
easy. If that was the case, shoot.
54:47
Oh, it's it's something with AC we.
54:51
Have an answer in the chat. I'm not looking, I can't even
54:54
see the chat right now. Dinner in Spanish.
54:56
It's something with AC Sena. John Cena.
55:05
How about it? I knew of something with AC.
55:08
How about that full? That's Spanish one really paying
55:12
dividends. I took three years of Spanish.
55:16
None of it stuck and my last name is Reyes and I live in
55:23
Arizona. Not for long if you want to be a
55:26
supper guy. I can get it done at Taco Bell
55:29
on Chipotle though, let me tell you.
55:32
I'm Bam. I'm I think I'm out on Chipotle,
55:34
man. The the I am.
55:36
Too. It is crazy.
55:38
We ordered it last week and Paige got a steak burrito bowl
55:46
tortsy on the side because that's the signature move.
55:51
We counted 5 pieces of steak. Are you serious, $14.00 Five
56:00
pieces of steak. Well, honestly, that's kind of
56:05
on you. Wait, did you say you ordered
56:08
this? You were on site for this order
56:10
or was this delivered or pick up?
56:13
I ordered through the app that's.
56:16
They that's how they get you, man.
56:17
That's come on, that's a rookie mistake.
56:20
Going in person, what a yoke I do.
56:25
I guess that's the trick though. You got to just pull your phone
56:28
out while you're ordering and they'll load it up for you so
56:30
they don't get in trouble. I never thought I'm out on
56:35
Chipotle though. I never thought I'd see the day
56:37
where you'd be so inconvenienced to just go into a place.
56:42
It's 110 outside OK. When I'm inside, I'm staying
56:47
inside. How are you getting the food if
56:50
you order through the app dropped off?
56:53
That's what I that's what I asked.
56:55
I said delivery pick up. You just said through the app
56:58
delivery, so you had it delivered.
57:00
That's where, see, that's where they get you because they know
57:02
there's no accountability. They say.
57:07
They say they're not going to know it's it's going to be too
57:10
late before they realize what we've done.
57:12
And at that point, what are you going to do?
57:13
You're going to sit there and eat your five pieces of steak
57:16
like a good boy. I had my chicken bowl and mine
57:19
was fine. The chips were really terrible
57:24
though. Soggy and oily.
57:26
And pounds of salt Pounds. It's crazy how I mean, the fall
57:32
off, it has to be documented. It's too bad.
57:38
Yeah, the demise of of Chipotle will be documented and studied
57:42
for years to come. Crazy what's happening there.
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They were ruling the land. They had it.
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They had the world in the palm of their hands.
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And they said, you know what? We don't want it.
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Yeah. What a shame.
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Any who's that's all I got keep an eye out for the merch drop
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this Friday. Got some big things coming.
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We'll see you all Sunday. Log out.
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For supper? Nope.
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Pre supper, dinner. Make me some supper tonight, I
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actually do. Need to go eat dinner so let's
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let's get out of here. Me too.
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Don't go chasing curveballs. We love you all as always.
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Looking forward to talking more baseball with you guys soon.
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Until next time, stay filthy.