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- 0:00Speaker 1: Yeah, I think love is something that certainly gives us
- 0:02Speaker 1: a sense of purpose, I think, you know?
- 0:04Speaker 2: Absolutely.
- 0:05Speaker 1: Do you feel like humans these days, we talk a
- 0:09Speaker 1: lot about purpose on here. Do you feel like humans
- 0:11Speaker 1: these days that we're losing a sense of purpose? That's
- 0:16Speaker 1: what it feels like sometimes to me.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Well, you know, certainly there are Fewer and fewer people
- 0:24Speaker 2: who are involved in relationships and fewer and fewer people
- 0:28Speaker 2: who are living together and more and more people who
- 0:31Speaker 2: are living alone. And the people who are living alone
- 0:36Speaker 2: aren't always replacing a romantic partner with lots of time
- 0:41Speaker 2: with friends. A lot of times they're replacing it with,
- 0:44Speaker 2: you know, the internet, with watching podcasts like this. Not
- 0:47Speaker 2: to disparage podcasts like this, but, you know, what I'm
- 0:50Speaker 2: saying is not the same. Right? Yeah. So, you know,
- 0:53Speaker 2: I think there is a crisis of connection that people
- 1:00Speaker 2: are feeling right now. And I think it is something
- 1:05Speaker 2: to really, really be concerned about.
- 1:08Speaker 1: Why do you think it's so important for the human
- 1:10Speaker 1: brain or humans to seek meaning in life?
- 1:14Speaker 2: I think we can't help but do it. I think
- 1:16Speaker 2: our brains are hardwired— to take fragments of information and
- 1:24Speaker 2: then try to make a story out of them. We
- 1:26Speaker 2: are a story-making, story-telling species. We can't help but do it, right?
- 1:34Speaker 2: It is a deeply human thing. And let me tell
- 1:38Speaker 2: you a little bit of what I mean, right? So
- 1:43Speaker 2: people say, well, science and faith are somehow in opposition
- 1:50Speaker 2: I say science and faith are two branches of the
- 1:56Speaker 2: same human stream. We're starting with fundamental questions that we
- 2:03Speaker 2: can't know. What is our purpose? How did we get here?
- 2:07Speaker 2: How should we live our lives? What happens after we're gone, right?
- 2:13Speaker 2: And faith— takes one path. It says, all right, you know,
- 2:20Speaker 2: I've got an explanation for doing that. It involves the divine,
- 2:23Speaker 2: and I will believe that, and that is my way forward.
- 2:25Speaker 2: And so science says, well, I'm going to address those
- 2:29Speaker 2: mysteries in a different way. I'm going to do experiments
- 2:33Speaker 2: and observations and subject those to falsifications, and I'll take
- 2:37Speaker 2: some wrong turns, but I'll fix them, and eventually I'll
- 2:39Speaker 2: get closer and closer to the truth. And they are
- 2:42Speaker 2: two different ways of getting at it, but they have
- 2:45Speaker 2: the very same root. We as humans are curious. We
- 2:50Speaker 2: want to know what's going on. We want to put
- 2:54Speaker 2: it together. We want to make a story. And it
- 2:56Speaker 2: happens in the most basic sensory level. Like if you're
- 2:59Speaker 2: walking through the woods and you hear– You can't help
- 3:05Speaker 2: but imagine that someone's coming up behind you, right? You're
- 3:08Speaker 2: making a story in your mind about what those sounds mean.
- 3:14Speaker 2: Our whole brains are built to take fragmentary information and
- 3:18Speaker 2: put them together in a story. It's the most fundamental
- 3:21Speaker 2: human thing there is.