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The Late Debate | 4 September · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Late General, Welcome to the Late Debase.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the program. I'm Caleb Bond
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  Speaker 2: with freyer Leitch and Danika de Georgio. Here's what's coming
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  Speaker 2: up on the show tonight. If you're a bloke going
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  Speaker 2: to a women's award night, would you expect to be
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  Speaker 2: told what you can and can't say to the women.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you more about that if I'm allowed to.
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  Speaker 2: That is in just a moment in the papers. Just
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  Speaker 2: how much do we need to spend to meet Labour's
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  Speaker 2: twenty thirty five emissions target? It is a massive number.
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  Speaker 2: Don't miss it. And later you've just bought a million
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  Speaker 2: dollar yacht, you've taken it out for the first time.
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  Speaker 2: Next thing, you're jumping overboard. We'll show you why later
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  Speaker 2: in the show. Now, I just said about this awards night,
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  Speaker 2: which was the Australian Women in Security Night, and no
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  Speaker 2: that's not to security guards, it's about cyber security. It
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  Speaker 2: was held at the Star Casino in Sydney on Tuesday night.
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  Speaker 2: It was a big event. It's had big sponsors in
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  Speaker 2: the New South Wales government, the nab Booper, the Australian
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  Speaker 2: Signals Director at a TL they're an insurance company. It
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  Speaker 2: was five hundred bucks a ticket. I mean, this is
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  Speaker 2: a pretty fancy soiree. But every man who walked into
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  Speaker 2: the room and ponied up his five hundred dollars a
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  Speaker 2: ticket to attend was handed a little note on the
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  Speaker 2: way in. And that note says compliments in professional gatherings
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  Speaker 2: should focus on accomplishments, not attributes. If you believe it
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  Speaker 2: is appropriate to compliment someone's appearance, the news appropriate language
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  Speaker 2: for a professional environment, and it says the words that
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  Speaker 2: are appropriate, such as nice, fabulous, and great the inappropriate
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  Speaker 2: words sexy, beautiful, and gorgeous. May I say you're looking
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  Speaker 2: beautiful tonight, Daniko, I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Actually no offended. I've offended tracked that immediately. I'm very
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  Speaker 3: offended off.
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  Speaker 2: To hr we got. I mean, look, I know that
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  Speaker 2: the rules and the lines of sort of blue food.
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  Speaker 2: Now as to what you can and can't say, particularly
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  Speaker 2: in the workplace, which I think is sad. Like if
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  Speaker 2: you genuinely think someone looks good and you say, gee,
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  Speaker 2: you look gorgeous today, like really, who gives a toss?
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  Speaker 2: It's a nice compliment, But to hand out a note
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  Speaker 2: to every bloke who paid five hundred dollars for a
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  Speaker 2: ticket to this thing to tell him, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: you can't tell someone there's sixty I mean please, and
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  Speaker 2: don't forget.
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  Speaker 4: You know, us ladies know Freyer, that when you go
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  Speaker 4: to these gala dinners, you spend hours on your hair
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  Speaker 4: and makeup. You have bought a new outfit. You want
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  Speaker 4: to go there for the night of nights. You want
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  Speaker 4: to be shining.
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  Speaker 3: So for a man to come up to you and say, gee,
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  Speaker 3: you look beautiful.
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  Speaker 4: I would say thank you. I would be honored to
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  Speaker 4: receive that sort of compliment.
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  Speaker 3: But you know what, I just feel so sorry for
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  Speaker 3: men out there in this day.
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  Speaker 4: And age, because now it's impossible to know what they
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  Speaker 4: can say and what they can't say. And when this
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  Speaker 4: all start, the me too movement, the me too movement
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  Speaker 4: has absolutely destroyed men because every single man society is
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  Speaker 4: suddenly changed with the same brush. Oh, if you give
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  Speaker 4: a woman a compliment, well you can't say that to me.
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  Speaker 4: That's harassment, that's sexual harassment. And that is part of
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  Speaker 4: the problem. Now, if someone told me I look nice,
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  Speaker 4: I'd say try a bit harder, please.
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  Speaker 3: Come on and go on again. You look great, great,
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  Speaker 3: that's a backhanded compliment.
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  Speaker 4: See, I feel again. I feel sorry for men. They've
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  Speaker 4: got no hope with us women at the moment. But
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  Speaker 4: it's Truefray. I don't know how you feel about it
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  Speaker 4: as a woman yourself, but if a man gives me
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  Speaker 4: a compliment, thank you, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: The only one I would agree with them on this
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  Speaker 6: one is sexy.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like in a.
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  Speaker 6: Work environment calling a colleague sexy is a bit strange.
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  Speaker 6: But again, if you have to hand out a pamphlet
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  Speaker 6: telling people what words they can and cannot say, clearly
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  Speaker 6: you don't have much confidence in male social intelligence, which
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  Speaker 6: I mean that could be a fair call in some instances.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know what the cybersecurity crew is like, but
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  Speaker 6: I would say, you know, most people generally know intuitively
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  Speaker 6: what's appropriate and what's not.
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  Speaker 5: Secondly, the kind of.
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  Speaker 6: People who are offended by getting compliments probably don't get
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  Speaker 6: compliments that often because.
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  Speaker 2: Only the only people really who are offended by another
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  Speaker 2: woman being called beautiful or gorgeous is ugly women honest,
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  Speaker 2: be honest, because they're they're not getting it enough for themselves.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I can't believe someone else gets it. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm not an oil painting and you know, I
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  Speaker 2: understand if there's a much better look and bloke, someone's
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  Speaker 2: probably going to tell it me he's a good looking fellow.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not offended by that.
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  Speaker 4: But as a man, right, as a man, Caleb, do
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  Speaker 4: you feel like you have to watch what you say
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  Speaker 4: to a woman in public? Do you feel like you
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  Speaker 4: have to stop and have a think about it in
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  Speaker 4: the event that you're you know, you're called something.
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  Speaker 2: Look, Probably the short answer to that is no, because
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  Speaker 2: I just said, really, give a toss. I just say
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  Speaker 2: what I want and I'll deal with the consequences later,
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  Speaker 2: because honestly, like I reckon ninety nine per seen, if
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  Speaker 2: people think this stuff is garbage, and we've been taught
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  Speaker 2: by the one percent to police our language, and there
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  Speaker 2: is a degree to which you have to do it
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  Speaker 2: now because you are so worried about the potential consequences
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  Speaker 2: of what might happen. But I mean, if this is
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  Speaker 2: the sort of thing that's going to land you in
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  Speaker 2: HR on Wednesday morning because you said it on Tuesday
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  Speaker 2: night at the awards night, that is laughable. So I
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  Speaker 2: probably do think about it to some degree, but it
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  Speaker 2: is so stupid that I would be pretty happy to
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  Speaker 2: defend myself for calling someone beautiful because nine times, well
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  Speaker 2: ninety nine point nine nine, nine times out of ten.
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  Speaker 5: You'll take the copy exactly. But the thing is it
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  Speaker 5: is actually.
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  Speaker 6: Impacting men, and it's impacting dynamics in the workplace. The
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  Speaker 6: last polline I saw done on this was back from
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  Speaker 6: twenty nineteen, so the height of the Me Too movement,
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  Speaker 6: sixty percent of men said they were afraid to mental
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  Speaker 6: women in the workplace because they were scared of.
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  Speaker 5: Being falsely accused.
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  Speaker 6: So actually, in an effort to promote with women's rights,
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  Speaker 6: the radical left has actually done a disservice to women
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  Speaker 6: because men are now so scared of these false allegations
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  Speaker 6: that they don't even want to go near junior women
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  Speaker 6: in the workplace. And I think that's sad. We've gone
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  Speaker 6: way too fars.
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  Speaker 2: Just to go back to the point you made earlier
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  Speaker 2: about you know it's hanging out. This note is some
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  Speaker 2: reflection on what the organizers think of the social abilities
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  Speaker 2: of the men. I think it's actually more sinister than that.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's just that they hate men, and so
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  Speaker 2: they just think it's ingrained in men that they will
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  Speaker 2: be inappropriate at all times, like most of us know
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  Speaker 2: when it is or risen to appropriate, it is the
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  Speaker 2: sexy or beautiful or gorgeous. Like you're probably not probably
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  Speaker 2: not going to bowl up to someone you've never met
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  Speaker 2: before unless you're hitting on them and say, geez, you
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  Speaker 2: look beautiful. But if it's someone you work with and
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  Speaker 2: you see them every day and all of a sudden
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  Speaker 2: they actually look half decent tonight, well who kids, Well.
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  Speaker 6: Look, the whole idea of a women's only award night
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  Speaker 6: kind of tells you the views of the organizers right.
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  Speaker 6: Clearly they don't really care about including men or highlighting
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  Speaker 6: men's accomplishments. But the reality is that beauty is still
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  Speaker 6: important and beauty still sells. You'll remember that a couple
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  Speaker 6: weeks back, American Eagles marketing campaign with Sydney Sweeney went
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  Speaker 6: absolutely viral because she talked about having good geens and
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  Speaker 6: hers are blonde hair and blue eyes. Naturally, the Internet
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  Speaker 6: went absolutely ballistic. But here's the thing, American Eagle has
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  Speaker 6: been proved correct.
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  Speaker 5: Their CEO said they have seen an.
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  Speaker 6: Uptick in earnings since their campaign with Sydney Sweeney and
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  Speaker 6: another campaign they announced with Travis kelce who's just gotten
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  Speaker 6: engaged to Taylor Swift. So those two big marketing campaigns
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  Speaker 6: have seen sales jump and their stock has surged twenty
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  Speaker 6: five percent in a single day.
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  Speaker 5: So that just shows you.
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  Speaker 6: Even though the Left was in hysterics, even though they
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  Speaker 6: urged people to boycott American Eagle, people vote with their wallets,
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  Speaker 6: and people voted for beauty, for common sense and for
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  Speaker 6: good old American values of we're not going to be
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  Speaker 6: ashamed to be white with blonde hair and blue eyes.
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  Speaker 5: It's not a crime to be sexy.
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  Speaker 2: Because they're neo Nazis.
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  Speaker 3: They're they're old neo Nazis.
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  Speaker 4: And who would have thought, Gee, sex actually sells a
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  Speaker 4: marketing dream, going back to basics of marketing one oh one,
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  Speaker 4: sex does sell because realistically, you put the DEI higher
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  Speaker 4: on the front page of a magazine, sorry, you're not
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  Speaker 4: going to sell it.
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  Speaker 3: And let's just be realistic.
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  Speaker 4: And that's not me being a bigot, that's not me
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  Speaker 4: being rude, it's just fact. Have a look at what
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  Speaker 4: happened last year. I remember with the Jaguar ad it
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  Speaker 4: was for a rebrand of their company, and that advertisement
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  Speaker 4: didn't even have a car in it. It just had
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  Speaker 4: all these what was adrogynous women or men in this
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  Speaker 4: bizarre attire, and look what's happened. There's been such a
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  Speaker 4: fallout ever since. The CEO has since resigned. The company
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  Speaker 4: has indeed lost money because it doesn't work. Don't go broke,
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  Speaker 4: that is the thing. And in the end, hot people
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  Speaker 4: are making a return. So I say, good on Sydney Sweeney.
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  Speaker 4: I mean you would you say Sidney Sween is beautiful?
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  Speaker 3: I would say she is.
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  Speaker 2: I would even say she was sexy. Controversial here on
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  Speaker 2: the late debate tonight, And I mean you talk about
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  Speaker 2: marketing one oh one. The other thing, of course with
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  Speaker 2: marketing one oh one is you know, in the last
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  Speaker 2: few years you had this change where there were a
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  Speaker 2: lot of big companies and companies like Nike and Adidas
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  Speaker 2: and whatever. I thought that they would gain more sales
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  Speaker 2: and more traction by using people who looked more like
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  Speaker 2: their purchases in their advertisements. So they chose larger people,
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  Speaker 2: and they chose uglier people and whatever. Because this was
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  Speaker 2: meant to be a representation of the real person, and
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  Speaker 2: it may well be a representation of the real person
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  Speaker 2: of already of people who go and buy products because
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  Speaker 2: most of us don't look like Sydney swing. I Sidney
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  Speaker 2: don't because they've got a bid. But most of us
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  Speaker 2: don't look like Sidney Sweeney. We that's you know, I'm blonde,
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  Speaker 2: and you know we won't go into other faces with
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  Speaker 2: my body. But the thing is that people are not
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  Speaker 2: buying what looks real. People aspire and so what they
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  Speaker 2: want is to see someone like Sydney Sweeney wearing the jeans,
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  Speaker 2: and they go, maybe I could look like Sydney Sweeney
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  Speaker 2: if I wear those jeans. When they see the person
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  Speaker 2: who looks like them wearing the jeans, they go, geez,
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  Speaker 2: do I really look like that? Like it's just really
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  Speaker 2: basic stuff.
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  Speaker 3: It is really basic stuff. And look I do agree.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, there are clothing brands out there that will
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  Speaker 4: put forward a few different models, a couple of different sizes,
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  Speaker 4: and I think that's great.
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  Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with that. But I'm talking
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  Speaker 3: in terms of what is actually going to sell the product.
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  Speaker 4: You put the bombshell, you put the beautiful woman, the
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  Speaker 4: beautiful man, the chisel body, you put it on the
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  Speaker 4: front page, and that's just the reality, because that is
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  Speaker 4: what is going to see.
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  Speaker 5: But it was never about selling the product.
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  Speaker 6: It was always a political statement, and DEI in itself
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  Speaker 6: is a political statement. So the idea that you put
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  Speaker 6: fat people on the cover of Vogue, or fat people
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  Speaker 6: trying to sell geenes or whatever, that is a political
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  Speaker 6: statement to say, we actually don't believe in beauty, We
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  Speaker 6: don't believe in normality. There is no such thing as normal,
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  Speaker 6: and everybody should be included. We want to be totally
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  Speaker 6: open to all shapes and sizes. But at the end
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  Speaker 6: of the day, that's not reality. Reality is people want
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  Speaker 6: to look good, they want to be healthy, and they
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  Speaker 6: want to aspire to being attractive.
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  Speaker 3: It's all about that for rations.
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  Speaker 2: I love that this is a bit like bud Light
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  Speaker 2: when of course they used them. I can't think of
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  Speaker 2: the name, sounds into TikToker and the stop plummeted. I
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  Speaker 2: love that this proves that people said, now, actually we
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  Speaker 2: don't is darbage about some sort of neo Nazi dog whistle.
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  Speaker 2: They've actually gone out and bought the product. So God
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  Speaker 2: genius is refreshing.
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  Speaker 3: Well, who would have thought? Who would have thought?
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  Speaker 4: And Dylan mulvaney trying to sell beer, Yeah, that was
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  Speaker 4: absolute terrific.
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  Speaker 3: Now, look, I often wonder what is going on with
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  Speaker 3: children these days.
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  Speaker 4: You know, they grow up confused, I don't know whether
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  Speaker 4: they're a boy or a girl, and they're indoctrinated in
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  Speaker 4: the classrooms. But look, it seems like the sentiment has
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  Speaker 4: been echoed by Helen Codderley. Now she is recently the
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  Speaker 4: retired Children's Commissioner over in South Australia, and she has
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  Speaker 4: said that childhood has changed and things must shift the
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  Speaker 4: kids to be kids again.
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  Speaker 3: Well, g who would have thought?
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  Speaker 4: She's told the Advertiser quote the thing children really want
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  Speaker 4: is freedom away from their parents, but that doesn't happen anymore.
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  Speaker 4: They don't get to play independently. Parents take them places
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  Speaker 4: and they play with their parents there. Parents are so
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  Speaker 4: obsessed with safety. The messaging kids are getting is the
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  Speaker 4: world is unsafe. Kids are now talking about not feeling
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  Speaker 4: safe a lot more than they were eight years ago.
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  Speaker 4: And look, I have to agree with this, and I
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  Speaker 4: think it's two parts.
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  Speaker 3: In two parts. Firstly, is what is going on in
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  Speaker 3: the classroom.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, you've got a lot of wope teachers out there
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  Speaker 4: and a lot of WOP curriculums, and suddenly you've got
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  Speaker 4: this next generation one as I said, they don't know
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  Speaker 4: whether they're a boy or a girl.
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  Speaker 3: Two, they're being told that.
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  Speaker 4: Climate change is going to come after them, and that
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  Speaker 4: the world is going to end, and no wonder they're
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  Speaker 4: growing up as a bunch of snowflakes because they're petrified
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  Speaker 4: of everything. They're not growing up with any stamina or
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  Speaker 4: endurance about them. They're utterly terrified. And secondly, look, I
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  Speaker 4: do agree perhaps it does have something to do with parenting.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know about you too when I was you know,
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  Speaker 4: when you two were growing up, but you are taught
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  Speaker 4: that you make a mistake, you learn from those mistakes.
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  Speaker 4: Your parents give you a bit of freedom to make
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  Speaker 4: those mistakes, and you learn from them. But I can't
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  Speaker 4: tell you the amount of TikTok videos that I've seen,
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  Speaker 4: for example, and this is where I get my new
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  Speaker 4: source from, clearly where it's this new brand of soft
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  Speaker 4: parenting where you tell the child off for doing something naughty.
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  Speaker 3: You go love, oh, please please don't do that. Seriously,
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  Speaker 3: if I find it something naughty as a child, I
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  Speaker 3: would have copped it.
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  Speaker 4: Not only soft parenting, but I think that the kids
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  Speaker 4: have been modoicole coddled so much.
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  Speaker 2: And I think your point about the climate is right, Like,
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  Speaker 2: if you're telling kids that the world is going to end,
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  Speaker 2: why would they have any possibility about the world that
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  Speaker 2: they're going into. But the issue of the parenting and
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  Speaker 2: letting the kids have some freedom, I think is so
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  Speaker 2: important and giving the kids some danger like you know,
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  Speaker 2: I remember as a kid at school, kids would constantly
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  Speaker 2: fall off the monkey bars and break arms and do
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  Speaker 2: all this sort of stuff. But I talk to people
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  Speaker 2: now who have young kids, and they say, I go
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  Speaker 2: to the school and I very rarely see a kid
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  Speaker 2: with their arm in a cast or a sling, because
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  Speaker 2: they don't break bones anymore, because they don't do dangerous
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  Speaker 2: you know, they don't climb up the tree, and they
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  Speaker 2: don't fall off the monkey bar. If they fall off
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  Speaker 2: the monkey bars, they put rubber at the bottom, so
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  Speaker 2: there's no consequences for doing anything wrong anymore. Once upon
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  Speaker 2: a time, long before any of us with children, probably
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  Speaker 2: you know, it was not uncommon to be told in
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  Speaker 2: the school holidays, you know, just be home for dinner.
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  Speaker 2: You'd get on your bike in the morning, you'd go
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  Speaker 2: out and meet your mates. You were home by six pm.
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  Speaker 2: Mum and Dad were happy, but now a lot of
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  Speaker 2: parents would go, oh, my god, where's my kid? What's
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  Speaker 2: going on? I got to put a tracker on them,
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  Speaker 2: so I now it's happening. And it infantilizes children. And
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  Speaker 2: I know that's sort of an oxymoron. Of course, children
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  Speaker 2: are infantilized. They are infants, but they are infantilized for
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  Speaker 2: far too long. This now carries on into the teenage years,
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  Speaker 2: and then to some degree it carries on into their
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  Speaker 2: early twenties. And we wonder why kids are staying at
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  Speaker 2: home until they're thirty three and Mum and dad can't
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  Speaker 2: kick them out of home because they've never had any responsibility.
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  Speaker 2: They've never been cut loose and told make your own
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  Speaker 2: way to school. They will get dropped to the front gate.
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  Speaker 2: Now they're not allowed to go out and make mistakes
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  Speaker 2: and find themselves in dangerous situations and learn about the
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  Speaker 2: boundaries of the real world. They're constantly under the thumb
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  Speaker 2: of their parents.
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  Speaker 6: And I think ultimately it actually undermines young people's confidence
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  Speaker 6: in themselves. So parents might think they're doing the right
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  Speaker 6: thing by their children. All I want everyone to be
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  Speaker 6: a winner. Oh, I don't want their feelings. I don't
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: want them to fail this test. I don't want them
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: to get in trouble at school, so I'm going to intervene.
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: But ultimately, what that does when you're never allowed to fail,
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: when you're never allowed to lose, when you're never allowed
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: to get disciplined, is you start to question whether you
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: can actually function as a person in the real world, because, frankly,
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: you experienced that stuff all the time, and if you
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: don't learn how to get over it in little steps
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: as a child, you're going to be hit like a
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: truck when you're an adult. And one of the other
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: things the former Children's commissioner said is that, I mean,
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: that's the thing, like they actually don't have confidence. And
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: the other thing she said was they see their parents
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: who are full of anxiety about the future and about
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: being an adult. And yeah, people actually dread growing up.
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: And that's something I see with a lot of my friends.
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: Anytime someone has a birthday, it's not even a positive
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: thing anymore. They get anxious that they're getting old and
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: we're in our twenties and that is sad.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, there was a survey recently that where
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: jen z was asking what would be appropriate to mention
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: in a job interview, and they were asking is it
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: appropriate to divulge, say, for instance, that I've got adhd
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: or that I have just recently broken up with a partner,
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: And that just goes to show you that they're growing
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: up with no life skills.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, do you want to get the job or not.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: That is a disaster, but that is the mentality of
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: some within that cohort because they haven't got any life skills.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: They haven't been you know, toughened up, racked up a bit.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: You know, it's a tough world out there. You don't
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: get a grip, but they haven't, and that's part of
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: the problem.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Indeed, while we're talking about kids and education and this
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: sort of thing, of course, one of the problems I
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: think these days is that it's almost become an extincsion
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: of school that you have to go to university. And
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: this is part of the thing that they don't get
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: any real life experience until much later now, because it's
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: expected to finish school, you go to UNI, then you're
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: twenty five or maybe I'll think about getting a job now.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: But if you want to get a job in a university,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: you want to be a chancellor there is big money
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: to be made. I mean, these people are on millions
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: of dollars. And in South Australia, the University of Adelaide
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: and Unisay are merging to become the Adelaide University, and
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: so they're appointing a new chancellor to look after this
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: new uni. So you get rid of two chancellors, replace
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: them with one, and that will be Professor Nichola Phillips,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: who you can see on the screen. And it has
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: been revealed this week that her salary will be nearly
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: one million dollars. It's around the mark of nine hundred
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: grand and she's eligible for bonuses and super on top
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: of that, of course. But this number having come out
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: has apparently in some quarters raised quest about whether she
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: is the victim of the gender pay gap. Yes, because
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: the two blokes that she is replacing we're paid more
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: than she will be in this role. And so some
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: people in the academic world are apparently concerned that, yes,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: this woman on a million dollars a year is the
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: victim of the gender pay gap. One source within the
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: unisystem told the Advertiser, it's interesting that a woman gets
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: less than the two men before her. Oh my God
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: it bust for you because she is a woman and
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Rob Siems he's an Upper House member for the Greens
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: in South Australia. He said, I hope that this new
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: salary isn't just another example of the gender pay gap,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: but rather a shift away from some of the obscene
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: salaries we've seen in the past. Now I think he's
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: got a point about the obscene salaries, but like gender
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: pay gap, how does that even come into it? Who
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: looks at a woman who's clearly done very well for herself,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: excelled in academic life, is now going to run a
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: brand new university on a million dollars a year and go, oh,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: jinder pay gap?
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, she is such a victim.
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: That doesn't this just epitomize everything that is wrong with
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: the elite left, specifically in academia. There is so out
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: of touch with the rest of the world. But this
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: is a broader problem. I don't think there's a gender
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: pay gap in tertiary education. I think there's a competence gap,
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: a gap between what they're paid and what they actually
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: deliver on. If this was the private sector, most of
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: these vice chancellors would have been sacked. Whether it's their
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: failure to deal with anti Semitism.
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: A QT.
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: Their vice chancellor, which is a woman, by the way,
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: is on one point two million dollars. They removed hiring
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: based on merit. They removed merit from their hiring criteria,
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: subsequently had to lay off a bunch of staff because
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: guess what the unis going bust At ACU, they spent
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: a million dollars firing a pro abortion law dean and
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: then apologized for having an anti abortion commencement speaker.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: That guy's on a million dollars.
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: I mean, all of these vice chancellors are getting paid
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: such big money, and I do understand these universities are
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: multi billion dollar organizations, but still they are consistently making losses.
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: They're mishandling basic situations like the encampments, and they're just
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: useless at their jobs.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: And it's all on the taxpayer's dime. Yeah, well, which
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: is highly concerning. You know, when I first read this
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: story today, I thought God loved the elites. They just
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: live in the little bubble of their own, don't they.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: And then suddenly the gender pay gap always gets brought up,
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: And can honestly say, as a woman, I find it offensive.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: But every time every type gender pay gap, gender pay gap,
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: give me a break, why don't we actually start saying, Okay,
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: did this woman earn the position? What is her salary
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: based on the experience that she's had? What is the
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: salary based on the experience.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: That he has had?
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: Instead of always jumping to the gender pay gap. But
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: of course that's the left narrative. They love it and
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: I love that quote. It's interesting that a woman gets
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: less than the two men before her. I mean, whoa controversial,
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: but look overall, I think it's deeper than just gender
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: pay gap. I'm not sure why any any university boss
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: would be paid one million dollars of tax payers money
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: when there's a cost of living cristis out there. And
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, I understand they have a very
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: tough job, but there's always money in the coppers. Isn't
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: there to pay these bureaucrats.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Even more and more money? And that is what bothers
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: me the most.
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: And you genuinely have to question what value are our
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: universities providing to Australia. Basically, they're just expensive visas for
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: international students at this point, but universities around the world
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: seem to be going a bit nuts, and the US
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: is no exception. This was the student body president at
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: Cow State University bragging about how the university has so
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: many undocumented migrants.
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: Is proud to serve nearly ten thousand undocumented students, the
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: highest number at any university system in the country. These
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: students are our classmates, our colleagues, and our friends. They
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: contribute in our classrooms, lead in our student government, and
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: give back to our communities.
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: Oh, you're so virtuous for having ten thousand undocumented migrants
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: taking the place of actual Americans at your university.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: Not only do they have ten thousand.
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: Illegal migrants at this UNI, there are nineteen states of
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: the US where illegal migrants can get financial aid from
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: the American government to attend college. Meanwhile, actual Americans are
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: faced with crippling student debt that they face no hope
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: of paying off. And you're paying for the degrees of
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: illegal migrants.
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: What is this upside down?
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Well, and bragging about, Oh, we've got so many of them,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm sorry. Look it was suggested online. I
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: think it's probably a good point that ice that's the
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: mob that goes and rounds up the illegal migrants should
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: perhaps be making a visit to California State University because
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: there's ten thousand of a matter to pick up and
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: deport tomorrow. Go for it. But if that is something
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: that is worth bragging about now in the United States,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: it shows how warp the priorities of the Democrats and
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: the general left sided politics over there has become that
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: it is a point of pride to say that we
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: are harboring illegal immigrants. They've broken the law, you know,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: but by definition they are criminals.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: And generally it.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Has been accepted that in all sides of politics, that
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: people who break the law aren't terribly nice people. And
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: you know, we deserve to keep our country in a
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: manner that is good for people who are here legally. Now,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: you know, there's fiddling around the edges. We saw what
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Joe Barden did with the border when he was in charge,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: because he thought he'd did up people over the boarder
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: who eventually becomes citizens.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: It's disaster.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: But this is where we are at now. That is like,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: we have so many of them, it's a fantastic thing.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is a problem. You're right, you raise
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: a good point about the left and the Democrats. I mean,
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: We've seen so many videos, for example, of lefties on
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: the streets seeing if a nice vehicle rocks up, they
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: blow whistles, you know, alerting everybody around them. High going
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: to hiding if you're an a legal migrant, or we're
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: going to save you if you're an a legal migrant.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, the mentality is dis bizarre. I did a
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: bit of research on this Cali Student Association. So, as
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: you mentioned, they are there to improve the lives of
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: California State University students by advocating for student needs apparently,
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: but on their website, on their homepage, they say that
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: their resolution, this is front and center of their homepage,
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: condemns violence and advocates for the protection of human rights
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: and freedom of speech in the Gaza Strip and the
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: West Face. So really going very swimmingly already for this organization.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: We know that what they're up to, we know what
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: they're are they're like, but you know, to openly admit it,
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: I just think it is absolutely extraordinary.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: But look, let's move on, because as we know.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: In recent years here in Australia we have had a
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: recruitment crisis within our defense force. People have said that's
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: because the ADF is going woke, but they are struggling
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: to get numbers here. But it's interesting the statistics over
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: in the UK. It seems that they are having the
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: same issues, but not quite to the extent they are
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: having now. There was a new poll done by the
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: Ministry of Defense which found that more young people are
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: joining the regular Armed Forces, but the new recruits are
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: still not enough to fill the gaps created by the
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: troops that are leaving. Five hundred more personnel left the
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: regular Armed Forces in the twelve months to June thirty
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: this year, meaning the overall size of the military continues
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: to shrink despite rising threats. Over the same period, about
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: thirteen thousand recruits joined the regular forces, so that's an
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: increase of one thy five hundred that's thirteen percent, while
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: fourteenth left. That's a fall of seventeen hundred or eleven
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: percent compared to the year before. I think this can
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: be really broken down into a few things. I think
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: that there has been a slight uptick because I think
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: that Britain's young men in particular are very worried about
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: the state of the UK. They have seen mass migration
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: out of control, They've seen people being brought into the
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: country who do not share their values, certainly don't share
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: the values of a Western democracy. They look at what's
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: happening overseas Russia and China, and I think that they
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: are genuinely worried and culture wars as well. But I
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: think that they're struggling to replace the number leaving because
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: simply there is a lack of patriotism. I mean, we're
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: seeing it here in Australia, but I think there's a
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: lack of patriotism. A survey last year revealed eleven percent
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: of eighteen to twenty seven year olds will be willing
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: to take up arms. In Britain, forty eight percent believe
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: it's actually a racist country.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Again, that is a problem with that cohort.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: But like us, the UK also has a woke problem
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: within their defense force.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: The Pride flag was flown by.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: The Royal Artillery Regiment on the eightieth anniversary of D Day,
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: so replacing that the UK flag was the Pride flag.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: Biological men are allowed to live in accommodation on ADF
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: campuses with women, which is absolutely disgraceful and I just
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: think it kind of reminds us of what's going on here.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: In Australia.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, they seem like they're on a better trajectory
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: over in the UK than.
• 28:26
  Speaker 8: What we are.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: But again it comes down to what are you biting
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: for anymore one hundred percent?
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: And if you're going to potentially lay down your life,
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: but at the very minimum, uproot your life, you think
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: about the sacrifice that soldiers or potential Defense Force members
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: have to go through the months of training, moving across
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: the country, relocating your family, all the other opportunities you
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: have to say no to to pursue this. It's an
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: incredible sacrifice the members of our Defense Force make. And
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: so the idea that you're making all of that sacrifice
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: for a country that calls you racist, for a country
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: that treats you lesser than because you're a man, and
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: discriminates against you in hiring, in promotion.
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: All under the name of DEI, Why would you.
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: Make that sacrifice for a country that doesn't love you back. So,
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: if you want to fix the defense force crisis, we
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: need to fix the cultural crisis in our country. But
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: the other factor that's going on, and this is an
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: issue here in Australia, is just the recruitment process itself
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: is such a nightmare. They're about four three hundred vacant
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: positions in the Defense Force.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: But here's the thing.
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: Every year about sixty thousand people apply to join the ADF,
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: so very quickly you could fill all of those gaps.
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: But the problem is the average time it takes to
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: recruit someone is three hundred days. So often they've withdrawn
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: the application, they've moved on with their life, they've decided
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: they don't want to do it.
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: And then the other factor have is.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: The extreme medical requirements that you have to get through.
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: So for example, my husband, after shout out to Cooper
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: after the Chinese flotilla circumnavigated Australia, said well that's it,
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: I've got to join the reserves.
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: And a number of our friends did the same thing.
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: Wow, he had a historic eye condition from a couple
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: of years ago that was fully treated, never came back
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: and he was rejected by the Australian Defense Force. On
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: Sunday he ran the City Marathon. So you got someone
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: who's run the city Marathon, doing a master's degree, great
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: contributed to society and they've been rejected by the Defense Force.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: That is the problem here in Australia.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Priorities are great, and I mean the applications in the
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: UK as well are up forty three point four percent.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: That's a significant increase. That is for regular soldier or
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: officer positions, and in the reserves it's up twenty seven
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: and a half percent. So it's good to see that
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: there is a desire to get involved in the military,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: because if you've got the problem of all these people
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: leaving able to ask the question why they are living
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: in such great numbers, but if there is a sense
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: of patriotism that is allowing people to say, I do
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: want to go and join the defense force to defend
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: my country. Now, we need to continue to foster that
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: and we've failed to do that in recent years. And
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: in the US while we're talking about the military as well,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Pete HeiG sth of course, the Defense Secretary over there
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: has decided to get rid of the Command Assessment program,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: which the DIM sort of snuck in just before Joe
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Biden finished up his term as president in January this year,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: and basically it was, you know, a DEI hiring policy
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: where when you were deciding about leadership positions, you had
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: to take into account all list of the mental stuff
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: and whether there were potential biases involved and privileges involved
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: in the decision you're going to make about appointing someone
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: you know. Eig Seth has put it pretty succinctly, you said,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: good riddance promotions across the Department of Defense. We'll only
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: be based on merit and performance. What a strange idea.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: Who would have thought this is absolutely fantastic by the US.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: But it just goes to show their priority is protecting
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: their country. They're putting their country first. And just on
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: what you said before, Freyer about the recruitment process here
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: in Australia, don't forget that when you sign up for
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: the IDF here you're also asked what your pronouns are
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: and what your sexuality again irrelevant. You wouldn't find that
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: in the United States, would you. And the other point
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: I would make is look what happened this week in
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: China when their military prowess was on display for the
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: entire world to see all of their new military arsenal.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: These are the weapons that they want to use against
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: the West in the event of a war. And we've
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: got countries like Australia ask you about pronouns and sexual.
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: And China is not going to ask your pronouns before blood, Where.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Wasn't you through the Pride flag on D Day?
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: That was the UK?
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: There you go, Well maybe they thought it was the UKA.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: While we're talking about the UK. Nigel Frash, Now, we
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: told you last night about the story of Graham Lyonon,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: that the Irish committe who flew into the UK the
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: other day and was then arrested and told he had
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: to front up to court because he posted a few
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: fruity tweets online in which he said that a bunch
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: of protesters about the transgender issue were smelly and that
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: if you find a transgender person, you know a man
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: who says they were a woman in a toilet, that
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: you should punch them in the balls. It was clearly
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: a joke. But anyway, he's been arrested for that. So
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Nigel Ferag is in the US at the moment, and
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: he was in front of the House Judiciary Committee overnight
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: and was talking about freedom of speech. Here.
• 33:33
  Speaker 8: He is, don't allow peace by piece this to happen
• 33:38
  Speaker 8: here in America. And you would be doing us and
• 33:43
  Speaker 8: yourselves and all freedom loving people a favor if your
• 33:47
  Speaker 8: politicians and your businesses said to the British government. You've
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: simply got this wrong. At what point did we become
• 33:54
  Speaker 8: North Korea? We I think the Irish comedy writer found
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: that out two days ago at he Throw airport.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, it would be hard to disagree with that, unless,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: of course, you were such a rabid lefty that you
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: thought it was a good idea to arrest people at
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: airports for jokes, because we can't offend people's feelings anymore,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: can we. But of course the Democrats weren't having a
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: bar of it, because they have gone that far off
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: the deep end. And Jamie Raskin went on with this
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: bizarre diatribe about how Farage is basically a dictator.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: For a man who fashions himself as some kind of
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: a free speech martyr, mister Frage seems most at home
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: with the autocrats and dictators of the world who are
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: crushing freedom on earth.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: He should go and.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Advance the positions he's taking here in Congress today, in
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Parliament which is meeting today.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can see the bloke shaking crushing freedom
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: on earth.
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Someone else said in this hearing that Farage was a
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: fringe politician. I just want to point out that in
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: every published opinion poll since May. In the United Kingdom,
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: his party Reform UK has led, right, there was a
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: published there was a pole published the other day that
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: had Reform at thirty five percent, labor, the government at
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: twenty percent and the Tories at seventeen percent. And he
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: rocks up in the US and he's told that he's
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: a fringe politician who hangs out with dictators.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and doesn't this just show that the old parties
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: are collapsing because of their own failures. And he goes
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: over there and shows the Democrats up. This is exactly
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: why Nigel Farage is leading in the polls. Everything he
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: said was spot on exactly.
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: And look the US and the UK, sorry, is arresting
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: thirty people a day for non crime hate incidences, most
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: of which occur online. If that's not totalitarian, what is indeed,
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: just very quickly before we get to the break, just
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: a public service announcement.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: If you weren't aware of it, if you're one of
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: these people who sits on the toilet and uses your
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: mobile phone, you're actually at higher risk of HEMORHOI. There
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: was a study of the Sydney Morning Harold wrote about
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: today that said thirty seven percent of people in this
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: particular study who used smartphones for more than five minutes
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: were more likely to turn up with hemorrhoids, compare to
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: seven percent of people who said that they weren't using
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: their mobile phones. What an extraordinary thing to hear. Put
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: your phone away when you get up. I must say,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I am guilty of it from time to time, but
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: put your phone away otherwise you'll end up with hemorrhoids.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: After the break, we'll have some better use than that.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Well maybe not actually, because I'm going to tell you
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: exactly how much money we need to spend if we
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: want to get up with labours twenty thirty five emissions target.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: And it is a huge sum of money that Mora is.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get into the papers, starting DDEKA tomorrow
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: with the Australian.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: Couple of stories on the front page of The Australian tomorrow.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: Let's start with we've been talking about China.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Let's start there.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: For Pictorian Premier Daniel Andrews has spoken in statesmen like
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: terms in meetings with Chinese business leaders, promoting closer economic
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: ties between China and Australia, inviting senior figures to visit Melbourne.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: And indicating he will spare no effort to boost.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Exchanges and cooperation with the communist superpower. That's according to
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: published accounts of top level talks over there.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Now, of course this comes just days after he attended.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: The military parade, was probably clapping in the audience like
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: a trained seal, shook hands with Shijing Ping and pose
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: of course, with the access of evil, all.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Of the evil dictators. And there was Chairman Dan.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: And now we find out that Statesman Dan seeks to
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: cash in on access and influence.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: So this story is not going anywhere.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: Frau.
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: I just find it's so hypocritical that the left always
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: attacks politicians from the right who leave politics and go
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: into lobbying.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: Here's someone from.
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: The left that's left politics and gone into lobbying at
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: the highest level with the West's greatest strategic foe or enemy,
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: and he's now sworming around there and having these high
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: level talks to enrich himself and his own business interests.
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: How is the left completely silent on that. But when
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: it's a liberal politician that goes to a mining company
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: that actually provides benefit to Australia, oh no, that's not allowed.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: And he was talking on State TV in China about
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: how proud he was of the Belton Road Scheme which
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: he tried to get going in Victoria, which of course
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: was knocked on the head by the Morrison government because
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: it was a danger to national security while it.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: Was designed only to expand China's influence globally. So, I mean,
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: honestly is a disgrace. The other story on the front
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: page joined Construction clean up Minister urges employers.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Employment and Workplace.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: Relations Minister Amanda Rishworth will urge employers to take action
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: to clean up the construction industry following a damning report
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: by the CFMEU administrator Mark Irving. In an addressed to
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: business leaders and an Australian Industry Group conference on Thursday
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: night tonight, mis Richworth said the problems in the construction
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: sector are wider than just the union and we need
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: employers to step up and do their part. Two And look,
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: she's got a point I think here. I mean the
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: CFMU has been in an absolute disgrace. I mean there
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: have been so many allegations of bullying, particularly against women,
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: people being locked in rooms for example.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: But it does need a top, top to toe clean
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: up in my view.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: The problem here is though that Richworth is trying to
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: pin it on the employer, and so you've got to
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: clean up your act too. And what she is talking
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: about is out of the report that Irving has put together,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: which is said that employers are using organized crime figures
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: and buyer keys and whatever to get stuff done on
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: work sites to negotiate with the union essentially, But that's
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: just how the industry is it the moment. I mean,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: it is pay for play. So if you've got the
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: cfme YOU dictating the terms, what's the employer meant to do?
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Just roll over and hope everything works. No, the cfme
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: YOU has been infiltrated by the Bikings. So if you
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: need someone to go and do the negotiating with the CFMEU,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: you've got to get someone who talks their language.
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: Like.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: The employees have been forced into this position to do
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: this because the CFMEU has been allowed to run rampant
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: for so long.
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: Well actually, and the answer here is just to have
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: less powerful unions. But Labor could never admit that because
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: that's their whole base. It's where they get their funding
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: from their members, their volunteers. But that is the ultimate answer,
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: as long as you have unions that hold industries hostage,
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: what else is a business supposed to do if they
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: want to get their projects through. We know construction productivity
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: has not moved in decades. It is seriously lagging. And
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: so the answer here is not to punish the businesses
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: that are doing their best to keep things running. It's
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: to punish the unions.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and the unions have got their finger in every pie.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: And the other story on the front page Trump's new
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: beef with exporters. Australian beef could soon be hit with
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: a thirty six percent tariff by the Trump administration under
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: existing Free trade Agreement rules on quotas after meet exports
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: for July hit a record, tipping Australia into a trade
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: surplus with the US.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: So we exported a record two point six.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: Billion in meat and meat preparations worldwide during the month,
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: and the US is the top destination for Australian beef,
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: and under free trade rules, Washington can impose a twenty
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: six point four percent tariff. So look, already we've got
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: tariffs in place right now with the United States. But
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: I just think, once again, this just points to the
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: fact that Anthony ALBANIZI is yet to get a meeting.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: With Donald Trump. Donald Trump has always got to impose tariffs.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: I get it, but look at other countries around the
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: world that have actually helped negotiate their own their own tariffs.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: That have been put against them. So here we go.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but we are ten percent on everything at the moment,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: which is the lowest he's done twenty one. This is
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: something he could do. It's available to me if he
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: wants to do it. But it will be a test
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: of whether or not our decision to let us be
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: coming to hear actually holds in the water.
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: I think that's the least of in the order of
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: us things that they want from us. I think that's
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: a nice concession, but it's not up there. There are
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: a few more things they'd like to see from Australia
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: before they start dropping tariffs on us.
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: Unfortunately.
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: But tomorrow in the Advertiser, the headline is a crazy
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: cost of meeting ALP's climate target ALBOS five hundred and
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: thirty billion dollar bill. Australia will need up to five
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: hundred and thirty billion dollars of investment in new infrastructure,
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: technology and skills if it is to have a chance
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: to achieve a twenty thirty five emissions reduction target of
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: seventy percent. New analysis shows slashing green tape, holding up
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: major projects and tens of thousands of extra skilled workers
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: in areas such as electrical trades and engineering are among
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: the critical components required. So you know through the whole
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: election campaign how label was banging on about how expensive
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: the coalition's nuclear policy was going to be. Well, that
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: still would have been a fraction of what this transition
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: is going to cost.
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: And that's the thing.
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: The Australian public never voted on this. This was never
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: put to them in clear language that this is going
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: to be hundreds of billions of dollars that could otherwise
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: be going towards productive projects.
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: This is just robbing our country.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: The warnings have been there for a long time.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: We've been warned by AEMO, for example, that we do
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: not have the infrastructure to get to where we need to.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: Yet we're still running this experiment of transmission lines, green hydrogen,
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: solar wind batteries and now five hundred and thirty billion
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: dollars worth is needed.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: Well done, Chris Bowen.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Just burn the call for him front of the Daily
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Telegraph Tomorrow Pet Horror. This is an awful story exclusive
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: by Elizabeth Pike. The state's leading animal protection agency has
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: been accused of letting animals starve to death while staff
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: watch Netflix as part of a tools down standoff tactic
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: with the men's government to secure more funding. The whistleblower
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: claims RSPCA New South Wales has refused to respond to
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: hundreds of cruelty reports since June. In one incident, a
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: neglected puppy died the day after an RSPCA officer inspected
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: it but did not rescue it, sparking an internal investigation.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: A source of led to some of the RSPCA's more
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: than fifty inspectors are sitting at home watching Netflix and
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: asking for more jobs. If this is even a little
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: bit true, If even this is a little bit, what
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: is going on that is disgusting. It is disgraceful and
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: the RSPCA should hang its head in shame. These are
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: the same idiots who carry onbo oh, we got get
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: rid of racing and jumps. Racing is terrible on. Whatever
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: the accusation here is that they are deliberately letting animals die,
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: does it get any worse?
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Than that, it's absolute disgraceful.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: Let's just take a quick look now at the mercury
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: telltale Die from Drugs.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: A Lawncester man was caught blue handed by police when.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: He was manufacturing ecstasy at a remote farmhouse in twenty
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: twenty four. Grant Donahue pleaded guilty to three counts of
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: trafficking in a controlled substance, manufacturing a controlled substance, possess items.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: This is in twenty twenty four. Police went to the
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: property to talk about another issue when they noticed cannabis
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: plants and initiated a search. When Donahue emerged from the house,
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: he had a blue green stain on his hands from
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: die in the manufacture of MDMA tablets.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Whoops. Well, you know what, if he had been in
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: the next segment, we would have called him the Dope
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: of the Day. We actually have two Dopes of the
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Day for you tonight, both of them in South Australia.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: One of them does relate to drugs, their doozy stick around.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: All right, it's a Thursday, the crows have lost, so
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I'm a bit down and out, but this may cheer
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: me up the day or in fact today Dopes of
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: the day. Yes, we have two of them for you tonight,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: both of them down in South Australia. They've been churning
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: out some good yarns overnight. The first one is a family,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: a father and his son who are up in court
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: on drug charges. Now, when they went around the coppers
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: went around to bust this alleged drug outfit, they found
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: the dad, Barry Doyle, seventy nine, in just his undies
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: and his sneakers, which you can imagine what a great,
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: great look that would have been. And they found his
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: son Matthew, allegedly covered in cannabis on his clothing. So look,
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: I don't think they stand much chance, but of course
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: it's all alleged. We'll see how that all goes down
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: in court. And the other one we've got for you
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: out of South Australia is overnight that the coppers have
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: rocked up to Pinfield Gardens, which is in the northern
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: suburbs of Adelaide, because these teens were hooning around, so
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: they rock up and they say, look, you can't do
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: this anymore. They've given fines to a few of them.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: And you'd think you'd get the picture and you'd go
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: home and go okay, I got to pay a fine.
• 47:18
  Speaker 8: Now.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: No, actually the coppers had to go back hours later
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: and found exactly the same group hooning out again. You'd
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: think you would learn your list.
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: They never learn.
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: But I want to take you to the US now,
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: where the White House has pulled the ultimate power move.
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: On their LinkedIn.
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: They have updated the photo for the White House to
• 47:41
  Speaker 6: a photo of Trump's face.
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: That means anyone who has on their LinkedIn.
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: That they ever worked in the White House now has
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: Trump on their LinkedIn profile, including as you can see,
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: their Democrat staffers who worked on Kamala Harris's campaign, they
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: have Trump's big face on their LinkedIn. Even Obama now
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: has Trump space right there, smack bang, front and center
• 48:07
  Speaker 6: on his LinkedIn. I just think it is glorious. It's
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: the best thing ever. And good job to whoever in
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: the White House thought about that one.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: This is incredible trolling.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: I think this is absolutely brilliant because you're always going
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: to be reminded Donald Trump is lurking over your shoulder. Now, look,
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: you take it, you take a maiden voyage, right your
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: one point.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Talk about over the shoulder.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: Let's not go there. We want to look at that photo.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: But look, now you've maybe look my train.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: There was a wonderful yosh, this is a one point
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: five million dollar vessel and it was taking it's made
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: of voyage off the beautiful coast of Turkey when oh,
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: it has capsized. It's capsized. Several people were actually forced
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: to jump off this vessel. Luckily nobody was injured. But
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: one point five million dollars or for it to fail
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: so quickly the maiden voyage.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine how awful it would feeling that you
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: can just watch the money sink, just sink into the ocean,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: never to come back. Look, you know boats are money pits,
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: but that's probably the most money pit of any boat
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: I have ever seen, apart from maybe the Titanic. By
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: the way, if you want to see Janika lurking over
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: the shoulder, go to games McPherson inst Thank you for
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: joining us, Denika. Time for us to go tonight. Now,
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: thanks for reading that