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144. [Texas] Liz Barraza · Bless This Mess: A Southern True Crime Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Okay, everyone, welcome to bless this message Drue Grump Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care who us do say, stup.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, why are you shaking.
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  Speaker 1: Your head at me?
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  Speaker 2: Because I know what happens?
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  Speaker 1: What happens?
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  Speaker 2: I can't tell you. What are you talking about this case?
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, anyways, so we are back this week. We
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  Speaker 1: are running behind per usual. We will eventually get back
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  Speaker 1: to our Thursday Wednesday Patreon release Thursday regular release. But
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  Speaker 1: it's just not I have been I have been working
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  Speaker 1: like twelve to fourteen hours a day at work here
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  Speaker 1: the last two weeks. It's bad time. Stuart, stop playing
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  Speaker 1: a violin for me. You know, I've been working every
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  Speaker 1: single night. It's been rough and rough fin anyways, and
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  Speaker 1: then today is our son's birthday. He turns three. If
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  Speaker 1: you're a Patreon member, there was a we shared a
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  Speaker 1: little picture of him with his birthday pancake stack. So,
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  Speaker 1: starting in year two, our family tradition that I started
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  Speaker 1: was they I make this giant stack of pancakes. So
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  Speaker 1: it takes me about like an hour or so to
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  Speaker 1: make all the pancakes. But I have the best pancake
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  Speaker 1: fluffy pancake recipe, and I make a big stack of
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  Speaker 1: pancakes with sprinkles, and so his is dinosaur themed, so
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  Speaker 1: he had dinosaur sprinkles and old dinosaur candle because he's
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  Speaker 1: a three wreck stew. That's three wrecks, yes, So anyway,
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  Speaker 1: so we did his birthday pancake stack today because today's
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  Speaker 1: his actual birthday, and then tomorrow we will do his
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  Speaker 1: birthday party. When I say birthday party, I do not.
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  Speaker 1: I do not feel the need to throw giant birthday
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  Speaker 1: parties for the children. So they get just a little
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  Speaker 1: family birthday. So get their birthday pancakestack and then they
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  Speaker 1: get a little family birthday where we just get a
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  Speaker 1: cake and we eat something that they like for dinner,
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  Speaker 1: and they get their little presents and they get decorations
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  Speaker 1: from Amazon. And his is three rex themed. Do three
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  Speaker 1: wrecks dinosaur yep. So that's what we are doing today.
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  Speaker 1: But we thought we would bribe them with them. We're
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  Speaker 1: rotting our children's brains for you people, we are. We
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  Speaker 1: gave them iPads to blame so we could come record
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  Speaker 1: this and.
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  Speaker 2: It's all learning. Though they're learning the learning, they.
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  Speaker 1: Aren't learning ship they're not. We're rotting their brains right
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  Speaker 1: now for you guys. So you guys should really support us.
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  Speaker 1: any of our friends though this is still.
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  Speaker 2: A secrets You're side of the families.
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  Speaker 1: Find how is my side of the family finding?
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  Speaker 2: I find out your stuff on your whatever? And then
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  Speaker 2: they follow that.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't think anybody actually found the podcast. No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody found the podcast anyways. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: that's what's going on with us right now. Uh STU,
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  Speaker 1: do you have anything that you'd like to talk about?
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  Speaker 1: You never have anything he'd like to talk.
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  Speaker 2: What do you want me to talk about?
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  Speaker 1: Nothing?
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  Speaker 2: You just burn up all the time in the beginning, nobody.
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  Speaker 2: Why don't I start the case?
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  Speaker 1: Why don't I talk about the fact that you and
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  Speaker 1: me had the same exact thought this morning, which was
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  Speaker 1: so across the street they are doing repair, like they're
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  Speaker 1: doing landscaping or something across the street. And so this morning,
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  Speaker 1: the our tuoty man, the three year old, he had,
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  Speaker 1: we call him Tutty Tooty, had to go to his
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  Speaker 1: three year appointment. Yes, I scheduled his doctor's appointment on
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  Speaker 1: his third birthday, but he didn't have to get shots,
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  Speaker 1: come to find out. So, uh, Stu, I was like, Stu,
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  Speaker 1: you take him to his appointment and also stay here
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  Speaker 1: so I can start making the pancakes and everything like that,
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  Speaker 1: because it does take about like an hour hour and
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  Speaker 1: a half, and with like, I had the four year
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  Speaker 1: old and the one year old home with me, so
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  Speaker 1: it takes even longer. And so when we're elite, when
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  Speaker 1: Stu's leaving, myself, the four year old and the baby
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  Speaker 1: are all like waving at Stewing and tuty man heading out,
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  Speaker 1: and the people across the land, the landscaping crew across
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  Speaker 1: the street. This guy was like looking over at us
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  Speaker 1: or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: He was staring hard.
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  Speaker 1: He was staring hard, okay, and so I was topless,
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  Speaker 1: So that might have been part of the problem. I'm kidding.
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  Speaker 1: Kick anyways, Uh you know, you just we we we're
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  Speaker 1: true crime podcasts. We watch a lot of I watch
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  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff about people getting murdered and everything
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  Speaker 1: like that. So I was like, man, it's probably not
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  Speaker 1: a good idea.
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  Speaker 3: Why did they not knowing stock watching us way by
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  Speaker 3: to the to the husband and then pull out and
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  Speaker 3: then watching this this whole time, and us three girls
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  Speaker 3: just there by ourselves.
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  Speaker 1: And so not uh you know what helped those You
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  Speaker 1: forgot the papers and came back. So it was kind
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  Speaker 1: of like what are they up to? He could be
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  Speaker 1: back any minute, and the pediatricians office, I'm sorry, provider
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  Speaker 1: is down. Uh. We live in a in a what
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  Speaker 1: do they call when is whenever you have like a
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  Speaker 1: food what is it? Whenever you have like a.
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  Speaker 2: Where you're like living in a grocery stores, they call
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  Speaker 2: it a food desert.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, we live in a in a medical cultural desert.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, there's a lot of culture here. There ain't. No,
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  Speaker 2: there's no doctors. The culture is LPN's are in all
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  Speaker 2: working under a doctor's life.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, there is, actually so. Our pediatricians office is owned
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  Speaker 1: by pediatricians, but the pediatricians do not actually live here.
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  Speaker 1: It's the I think we've talked about this for they're
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  Speaker 1: nurse practitioners, and not say anything about bad about the
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  Speaker 1: nurse practitioners, but they are not doctors. They are called
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  Speaker 1: we call them providers. So they're so every time we
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  Speaker 1: say we're taking to the pediatrician, we say, oh, wait, no,
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  Speaker 1: the provider, because that's it across. Yes, but this is
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  Speaker 1: like a common thing out here that there's no actual doctors.
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  Speaker 1: It's all the doctors don't want to live.
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  Speaker 2: Here, even the family doctors or not.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, even the family. It still went to one and
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  Speaker 1: it was the same situation. They're overseeing this this clinic,
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  Speaker 1: but they're not here physically. And that's a new thing
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  Speaker 1: for us because we leave. We lived in Louisiana, there
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  Speaker 1: was I mean I live, there's doctors everywhere. So anyway,
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  Speaker 1: so he the pediatrician, the providers are just like five
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  Speaker 1: minutes away. So he came back to get paperwork. Well,
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  Speaker 1: then he leaves again, and then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: he installed one of them ring doorbells. So everytime they're
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  Speaker 1: at someone's at the front door, it does a little
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  Speaker 1: chime on the thing and you get a notification on
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  Speaker 1: your phone. And I was like, oh my god, this
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  Speaker 1: is it. I start panicking, like my heart starts raising. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like murder.
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  Speaker 2: This is going to be great on the.
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  Speaker 1: Past, it be great for the podcast ratings.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, it's live on Insta No.
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  Speaker 1: So I was like, oh my god. So I start
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  Speaker 1: trying to frantically pull the ring doorbell up to see
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  Speaker 1: who it was, and it wouldn't like play back because
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  Speaker 1: it just happened. I guess. I know. I went to
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  Speaker 1: live but all I saw was someone walking away. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, okay, they're walking away. Well not even like
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  Speaker 1: five minutes later, I figured out we had a Walmart
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  Speaker 1: grocery to live free order scheduled at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: So that's who it actually was. It wasn't the people
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  Speaker 1: across the street trying to murder us, but Stu text
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  Speaker 1: I called him at the same time, or you called me,
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  Speaker 1: and you're like, yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: Did they watch me leave and then go over to
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  Speaker 1: like murder you? So, but we're fine, Well I saw
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  Speaker 1: it was the Walmart lady. Oh, but you were thinking
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  Speaker 1: the same thing, though.
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  Speaker 2: I thought that he had was watching a little too close.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, he was watching a little too close. Yes, But anyways,
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  Speaker 1: we thought the same thing. We're like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: this is how a dateline episode starts. That this just happened,
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  Speaker 1: and then this person that is coming over to murder
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  Speaker 1: somebody anyways, all right, well that's all I go. Okay, Well,
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  Speaker 1: let's go ahead and get into.
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  Speaker 2: This crime podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that was keep keep keep safe, ladies. That wasn't smart.
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  Speaker 2: I did say beligious, dilligentt Yeah, vigilant.
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  Speaker 1: Vigilant, diligent. I thought you were saying trying to say.
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  Speaker 2: Diligent, I said village.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So the point is you probably shouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: Let's have somebody watch your husband leave the home and
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  Speaker 1: leave you home with a baby and a toddler and
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  Speaker 1: make it quite obvious, because the world's a dangerous place. Guys. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I did post a picture of Tuty and his pancake
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  Speaker 1: stack on there and then so we share more updates
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  Speaker 1: All right? And I think that is it. So let's
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and get into our case. Out of Wow, Wow, Texas,
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  Speaker 1: I believe Oh Jesus Stewart. It's been a long week. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes the cities run together. What do you want from me? Now?
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  Speaker 1: This one's gonna be a little bit different because I
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  Speaker 1: just followed it. I followed I watched a Stewart stop. Anyways,
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  Speaker 1: this is following an episode of On the Case with
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  Speaker 1: Paula's on, and I'm gonna I'm not gonna forewarn you guys. No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not, no, because I don't want to match out now. No,
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  Speaker 1: we need to add moneys too. No, they need to
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  Speaker 1: stay around. Okay, all right, so let's go ahead and
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  Speaker 1: get into this case.
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  Speaker 2: All your upset and may emails to Kara at Math
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  Speaker 2: Podcast at Gmail.
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  Speaker 1: You're acting like it's something like bad or whatever it is.
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  Speaker 1: It's not bad. No children were murdered or anything like that.
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: Let's let's clarify that, right, now, so people aren't like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, what and there's no dogs died or
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  Speaker 1: anything like that, just a regular old human.
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  Speaker 2: This is just this is just like the y'all need
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  Speaker 2: Jesus from last week.
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  Speaker 1: What's the y'all need Jesus from last week?
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  Speaker 2: Where you pay all that money to go to the
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  Speaker 2: champagne room and.
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  Speaker 1: Get the second Oh and then you unsatisfied? Yes, okay,
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  Speaker 1: well all right. So on January So this is out
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  Speaker 1: of Tombal, Texas. So on January twenty fifth, two thousand,
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  Speaker 1: twenty and nineteen, around six fifty five am, Sean Owens,
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  Speaker 1: a neighbor hears a gunshot. She hears three rapid shots,
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  Speaker 1: a pause, and then a fourth gun shot. Terrified, she
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  Speaker 1: goes and finds her husband, who also heard those gun
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  Speaker 1: shots and thought the shots came from the house across
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  Speaker 1: the street because she thought it was so loud. She's really
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  Speaker 1: thought it might be in her backyard or so it
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  Speaker 1: was very close. So her husband he decides, he's like, no,
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  Speaker 1: I was standing here. They definitely came from across the street.
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  Speaker 1: So her husband walks over to the neighbors and turns
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  Speaker 1: around and he's like, stand by the window. I'll let
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  Speaker 1: you know if I need help. This is so do
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  Speaker 1: not go and do this. Guys, if you hear shots fire,
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  Speaker 1: just stay in your home. This is something stupid, stupid,
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  Speaker 1: this is something stupid.
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  Speaker 2: You had me Dan, What are you talking about? You
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  Speaker 2: walk up and you said, somebody's outside our window.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, go investigator, Yes, okay, yes, Stu would definitely
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  Speaker 1: walk across the street. Stu probably would have been armed
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  Speaker 1: when he went across. He would have grabbed his gun first. Anyways,
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  Speaker 1: so her husband says, like, hey, stand at the front
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  Speaker 1: window and if I wave you down or something like this,
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  Speaker 1: so you can be aware of, like, you know, something
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  Speaker 1: that's if I get shot. I don't know. So as
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  Speaker 1: he walks over, he flags his wife down and he
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  Speaker 1: starts telling her like, you know, call nine one one
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  Speaker 1: and everything that. So she calls nine one one, She
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  Speaker 1: goes and her husband. She goes over there with her
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  Speaker 1: husband and on the ground lies twenty nine year old
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  Speaker 1: Liz Barrazza and she is has a pull of blood
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  Speaker 1: all around her in the driveway. Well, police arrive on
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  Speaker 1: the scene and Liz actually is still alive, so they
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  Speaker 1: take her by ambulance to the hospital to see if
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  Speaker 1: they can save her. So this is quite a shocking.
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  Speaker 1: This is a Friday morning, quite the shocking, six fifty
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  Speaker 1: five am way up.
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  Speaker 2: Why yes, it would be a.
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  Speaker 1: Little bit stronger than your normal coffee.
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  Speaker 2: At any time of day, it would be shocking, but
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  Speaker 2: especially especially especially on the morning.
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  Speaker 1: In our neighbor we hear gunshots form like, oh, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Wayne. Never heard gunshots there?
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  Speaker 1: We did that one time.
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  Speaker 2: I thought, no, people got fireworks already though, Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh it is almost July for it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know where they're getting. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think the firework stands are open. But somebody was well.
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  Speaker 1: And this place is dry. There's usually a like a
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  Speaker 1: band of some sort of you know, this.
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  Speaker 2: Is true, all right, no vegetation here.
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  Speaker 1: The new Costco could get taken down.
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  Speaker 2: We are in a post apocalyptic mad Necks.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that's what Stu likes to call where we live. Now.
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  Speaker 1: We can see the Costco from our.
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  Speaker 2: Backyard and it's like a mile away.
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  Speaker 1: It's the largest costco in Texas.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So we are positioned next to If you are
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  Speaker 1: a Costco officionado and you were very excited about a Costco,
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  Speaker 1: we are positioned within a mile of the largest Costco
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  Speaker 1: in Tahos, which means it might be well, no, probably,
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  Speaker 1: there's probably bigger ones in California. I think they started
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  Speaker 1: in California, seems like it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not an expert on the country.
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  Speaker 1: You're okay, all the costco experts let us know.
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  Speaker 2: Well. Police arrive almost immediately after the nine to one
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  Speaker 2: one call. They start trying to put together the scene,
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  Speaker 2: and there were items lying around the driveway. They're all
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  Speaker 2: on display.
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  Speaker 1: It's all like nerdy stuff like Star Wars, Harry Potter.
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  Speaker 1: That's Harry Potter's not nerdy, that's a that's a nerd. No,
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  Speaker 1: that's a elegant hobby.
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  Speaker 2: They put together that Liz was putting together a garage
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  Speaker 2: sale and that she was ambush during the prime says
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  Speaker 2: there was little to no evidence at the scene of.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because of the garage cell, of the murder, of
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  Speaker 1: the murder, because the thing is is that it wasn't like, well, one,
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  Speaker 1: who would ambush somebody over garage cell money?
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  Speaker 2: But two, especially if it ain't started.
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  Speaker 3: Two.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it's six fifty five am on a Friday. The
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  Speaker 1: garage cell hasn't even made any money, So that was
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  Speaker 1: definitely not the motive.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you one thing right now. Them Marley birds
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  Speaker 2: at your garage cell there or something.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to start garage sellings to would you? Yes?
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: Why waking up early Saturday mornings.
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  Speaker 2: I'll go up by myself buying stuff. Yes, we're trying
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  Speaker 2: to get rid of.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Shit, I know. But you can find some real gems.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll sit in your closet and then you'll.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: Be able to find a gym you don't know, or.
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  Speaker 2: Ten year old slim gym. A ten year old slim gym.
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  Speaker 2: Something somebody found on their couch, just threw.
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  Speaker 1: It up, and you know, they'll put it out there.
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  Speaker 1: They'll be like, they'll be like five.
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  Speaker 2: Dollars you get next by slim gemstone expire. I'm sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there'd be like five dollars for the slim gym.
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  Speaker 1: You really well, I'll give you fifty cents.
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  Speaker 2: No sold, Yeah, anyways done.
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  Speaker 1: I would like to go by myself maybe and leave
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  Speaker 1: you guys at home sleeping. How about that? How about that?
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  Speaker 1: Oh you can sign up for that.
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  Speaker 2: I can anything where you leave me alone and leave
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  Speaker 2: me sleeping. I could sign up for that.
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  Speaker 1: I do that every morning to do when I go
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  Speaker 1: to work, and you.
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  Speaker 2: Lie in bed and then the real work starts whenever
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  Speaker 2: I get up.
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  Speaker 1: I know, sometimes I'm home thirty minutes and like, what
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  Speaker 1: did we do with these children? I go, I gotta
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  Speaker 1: go back to work.
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  Speaker 2: Are you done?
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  Speaker 1: I'm done? Now go someone's been ambushed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody has been ambushed. Liz has been shot four times.
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  Speaker 2: But there's no shell casings on the ground.
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  Speaker 1: They picked them up.
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  Speaker 2: They picked them up, or they make a special net
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  Speaker 2: that on a semi auto you can collect them.
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  Speaker 1: Based on the other things that I know about this
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  Speaker 1: case that I was wondering about that because it didn't
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: seem like they took the time to pick them up.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: So I'm guessing it was a situation where they were
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: collecting them.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Well, this is the thirty eight, okay, so typically, well that's.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: What they think. They think it was a small caliber.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Most thirty eight. It's a revolver, so the shell casings
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: won't inject anything.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, well that's it. Then that's probably why they
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: were like they either at that point they either thought
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: they picked them up, but then when they identified the
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: gun type, I'm guessing that's why because they don't oh yeah,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: because they stay in the chamber and.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: The revolver in the cylinder.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Revolver in the cylinder.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, these are things you should now since you have
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: a thirty eight, I know.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: But I haven't touched it in.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I ain't the only thing you checked.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Strong with you and that's a lie, but it's wrong
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: with you. Okay, moving on. Maybe it was a little
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: more special. Maybe when we're gonna stop, we're gonna stop
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: this trade of thought. We're gonna move on, moving on.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, are you done?
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Sergio Barazza, Liz's husband, has arrived at the scene, but
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: poor police had even contacted him. They asked how he
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: knew something was wrong, and he said they were very
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: cautious people, and he had just installed a doorbell camera
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: and reading and he had received the ring notification of
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: some activity.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Yes, like us, like the same thing happened.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Ring call us?
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, well, sponsor this podcast.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Give us a code to put out there. Finding this odd.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: He pulls up the camera and he sees all this
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: activity and police tape and an officer walk by. He
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: rewinds to see what happened, and he did not see
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: his wife shot, but he heard her say good morning.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Then the gunshots and his wife screaming. He races home
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: to find police at his home and they shared the
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: video with the police.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so police now have some like a sound of
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: the attacks. They obviously where it was. He didn't actually
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: see that's occur, but they do have at least like
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: she did. She didn't know the person particularly, they couldn't
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: say that, but that she wasn't afraid of the person
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: as they walked up, because she said good morning. You
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: wouldn't say good morning to somebody you were, you know,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: nervous about miche It.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Was probably a garage sale competitor.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, probably it's a similar garage cell down the street. Yes,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: all right, so they are so now they have the sound,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: they can tell that she wasn't afraid in the moment.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: So now this is opening up some possibilities that she
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: either knew the person or that at least wasn't a
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: menacing figure or someone she was afraid of. Now, as
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: the family is dealing with the incident, they get to
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: the hospital where Liz had been airlifted. Unfortunately, they were
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: told that Liz was not going to make it. See,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: they didn't even know that she wasn't going to make
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: it at this points too. So all those jokes Alice
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: were appropriate at the time because nobody had actually past yes.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: But now they have, so now it's we're serious. They
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: could not understand how this could happen to Liz. Liz,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: of course, like most people didn't have nobody. I don't
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: know anybody that has enemies enough that. I mean, I
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: pissed some people off. I got it. I have an
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: issue with someone at work right now. And let me
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: tell you what I understand that my personality is.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: You need to show me a picture of this fellaw.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: So if I see him on the ring camera, I
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: know that something.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: He looks like an angry bird. That's that's what we
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: call him.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, you know he listens to this podcast, right.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you what, guys, I do not take
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: work personally at all. Like I could care less if
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: someone doesn't like my ideal and they want to do
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: it in a different way. Could not What did I say,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: couldn't care less?
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Could care less?
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, I could not care less about work. I am
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: there for a paycheck. I've already told him this. I
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: could not care less. I'm there to do a job.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I do my job very well. However, if someone doesn't
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: like how I do my job, or someone that's in
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: charge of me tells me that they would rather me
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: do it a different way. You know what I do.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I do it the different way because I don't take
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: it personally. But I work with some people who take
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: work personally like it's their whole personalities. Do so then
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: they get.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Upset a little butt hurt.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, I have to say I have been the most
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: patient with this person in our group. I was the
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: last one to snap snap. I did my best, all right.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: So Liz, she did not have any enemies. She was kind.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: She was described as being kind, a great listener. She
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: saw the best in people, which is I see the
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: worst in people. I assume everybody's a serial killer, like
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: that guy across the street that was doing the working
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: on the landscaping. And then I worked my way up
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: for trust, but assuming you're a serial killer at first,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: and then we work our.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Way back to whether or not I will let you
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: borrow my pen or not.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, anyway, So she was just a thoughtful person in general.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: She loved to make people happy. She loved to laugh.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Sergio and her had a very good marriage. They were
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: both self described nerds, and they loved Star Wars and
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Harry Potter and they were into things like that. Now,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: when talking to Sergio, they found that she was selling
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: items at the garage cell to raise a little money
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: for their anniversary to Universal Studios. I guess they were
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: going to check out Harry Potter. I don't know where
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Star Wars is.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Is that a Disney thing thing? Disney bought it at some.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Point, I think, yeah, so all the Star Wars stuff
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: is that Disney. But they were going down there in
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: that area and stuff like that. So that was yeah, Orlando.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: They were going down there to do things like that.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: So this this garage cell was to make money for that.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: She was selling some of her like Star Wars's memorabilia
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: and things like that. Now they ask Sergio Sergio who
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: knew about the garage cell, and he said it was
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: kind of a last minute decision to do this, and
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: few people knew about it. She was depending more on
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: people driving by to make a sell, which I mean,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I think that's what everybody does for groadge cells.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: You put the ad out, you say this garage, Yeah,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: you advertise your garage.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: You put no, you don't add advertise it. You put
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: it out on like a you take a poster and
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: put your address and staple it to a corner of
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: a one.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: You can do that, but you can also put it
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: in the new Well, people used to put it on
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: this paper.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, grandpa, who's putting.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Their grandpa neighborhood?
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Are there a garage cell in the newspaper?
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Well, they put it online nowadays, yes.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: But that doesn't take much preparation to say, oh, yeah,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a garage cell. So anyway, so she's
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: mainly depending on people driving by, which is common. I
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: would say it's not. And then Sergio he hadn't He
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: wasn't there because he had an early morning flooring job,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: and he said he left around six forty seven am.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming that he knew this exactly because probably the
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: ring doorbell. It's like him, you know, you get notification,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: like I get a notification that I'm that I just left. Basically, yes,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: So police were able to confirm Sergio's arrival time and
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: that he was not the one to kill Liz. He
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: was not somebody well we don't know, Stu. We're going
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: to talk about that.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, So he's not off the hook yet though.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: He's not off the hook. He did not physically do
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: it himself, though, but we don't.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Know which we know we know what that he didn't
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: physically do it.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: We know he didn't physically do it himself. He was
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: at the flooring job. He did leave like he was
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: on that ring doorbell.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, but he could perfect alibi.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: But he could have left and just went around the
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: corner or come through the backyard. But they did say
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: that they talked to multiple people at the flooring place
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: and he was there, and he left and came home.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Could have came through the backyard where the costco is
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: helped the fence. Come on inside.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no cameras in our backyard?
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Or are there?
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Or are there?
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: And a massive pit No? I ran that pit bull off? No?
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, did we?
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: We've talked about the neighbors before.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Haven't we. Yes, We're not going to talk about them
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: right now though, why because we got to do this.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I know. I'm just gonna say something real quick.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Oh Jesus, Marrian.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, we've talked about how they the five children that
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: are there. We have not heard of the children in
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: weeks so but the but the the ladies still they're
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: still together. Appears well.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: I think they went on vacation and the children may
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: have gone somewhere to.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: But where are the children now it's been weeks.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe with another relative for the duration.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Who's going to take five children.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: It's a large family from what I understand.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Anyways, I find I think that they were like, this
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: is too much, and they and the they were like,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: we can't do this.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I think the Homa legally adopted the children.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. You can still turn them back over
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: to the state or something.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Not after you legally adopted it. As you can.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: You can surrender any child to the state.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: I don't think this surrendered them to the state. I'm
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: not getting that vibe from this family. Okay, I'm just
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: saying I'm tired children.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I think it was a lot for them to take
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: on over there. That's all I'm gonna say. Okay, we'll see,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: We'll update as the weeks go on. If the children
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: have appeared again on the neighbor drama. Yes, the neighborhood Drama.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Oh I could, oh, I could do a whole episode
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: about our neighborhood.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the guy's shaving let's talk about the.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Guy shaving himself chest aren't pits the whole nine yards.
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: In the community. And then they opened it. So there
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: was a guy full on shaving himself like out there
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: in the open, like like he had like he was
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: like had like dark hair or whatever. So it's just
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: like long like black hairs, and so he got they
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: got turned into the hoa or whatever. They couldn't find
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: the guy that did it, so they closed the pools
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: to clean them.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Keep in mind, we.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Do not They sure can find the weeds in my
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: yard when they want to, though they can't.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Find this man anyways, So they closed the pools to
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: clean them. Well per this morning. The pool reopened at
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: noon and someone went over there and there was like
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: a giant they supposedly closed it to clean it. There's
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: a giant like wad of like black hair just floating. Well,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: they posed a picture of it. Oh, I could go
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: on about this neighborhood ste if you want to do
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: a neighborhood watch. That sounds like a Patreon only situation. Though, yes, anyways,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: all right.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: That is not true crime, are you No, it's a
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: crime for the amount of paying it's a crime.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, I could tell you. Yeah, And I told you
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: the story about the tree that they planted, and they
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: said it was a dead tree in their yard. Yes,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: it was a brand new Yes. So they went and
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: bought it a tree from Low's and they planted in
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: their yard about four or five weeks ago.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Because the wind around here is ridiculous, so.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: It took all the leaves off because it's a baby.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: And the hoa came by and took a picture of
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: their This wasn't our house. Somebody else's took a picture
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: of it and said they needed to remove the dead
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: tree from the yard. Like absolutely insane, absolutely insane. All right,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: is it my turn?
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Your turned, it's my turn.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, keep going.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: You've done sidetracking. It's like you DrAk a whole bottle
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: of whiskey this morning already. No, I did not, And
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: it's only lunchtime.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: It's not lunchtime. It's like four pm. I didn't. I'm
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: just telling stories to This is what's happening right now.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: These are big things in our lives. We don't have
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: much going on.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: No we don't. Yeah, actually we got a costco coming.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: We got the largest costco in Texas.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I heard police are starting to think that someone was
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: watching when Liz was alone to attack her. They began
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: asking neighbors if they heard or saw anything that morning.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: They are able to find three neighbors who heard the shots,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: but no one actually saw the shooting. They were able
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: to pull security cameras that face the Barraza home. On
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: the video, a black truck pulls up in front of
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Liz's home at about six fifty two am and then
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: pulls up, turns around. The person gets out of the truck,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: walks rapidly up the driveway, speaks for a moment, and
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: then pulls a gun from the robe they were wearing.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, they were dressed in a robe in a robe. Yes.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: The shooter shoots three times at point blank range. Liz
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: then falls to the ground and one more shot is fired.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: The person looked like they were wearing a wig possibly.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Yes, it looked like a very crappy, exaggerated wig. And
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: they were wearing what looked like a robe, And they
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: felt like they couldn't tell if it was a manner
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: a woman because they had the the robe and these
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: white boots on and the.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Wig, so the distance of the camera did not give
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: a clear image. And they were disguising their identity, so
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: finding this person was not going to be as easy
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: as they thought it would be.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because the police thought whenever they found out they
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: had video footage over there, like, oh close, case we
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: got this.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: We'll be down at the Teddy Bar by lunch.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: But what I don't understand is why, Okay, what it
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: is a Friday? Uh? What this did happen on a Friday?
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: So what I don't understand is I still don't understand
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: why do we have these cameras on our homes if
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: they're not high enough quality to be able to catch
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: somebody or get license plate numbers. That's what I don't understand.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Like could ours identify or pick up a license plate? No,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: so what's the point it could?
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: If they were on our driveway. Our cameras are only
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: designed for our yard. We're not. We're about two three
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: houses down. Whether or not we can see their license plate,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: if you can get a description of the vehicle, I mean,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: that's good enough.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Not in this case, it wasn't.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe they should have had more cameras on their
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: own homes. The truck did circle back after the crime,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: like they were seeing if they got the job done,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: or to view their work. I'm guessing they were gonna
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: see if she got up and crawled to the house
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: or something. Police found this very odd that they would
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: go back to examine the scene. But I can kind
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: of get it. I guess if they were like, I
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: hope I got her. Let me make sure she ain't
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: crawling up to getting there.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: But it is bullsy to turn back around and go
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: back though.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Yes, no, you commit the crime and you move on.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: They did at least have a clear shot of the
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: truck that was being driven. The truck was a Nissan Frontier.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: First crime at the Century. Yeah, not much a Nissan.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Truck start a Frontier.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Does Nissan make any other kind of truck? Yes, I
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: don't know anything about trucks.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Well, I think the front Tier is the Tundra competitor,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: but I would get the Tendra myself. It was a
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: year twenty thirteen to twenty nineteen model. It was mostly
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: black or most likely black in colored. They could not
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: get the license plate number. However, there were thousands of
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: those types of trucks, so this was a needle in
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: the haystack. As far as the.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Placer clearned, Yeah, it wasn't like a they thought they
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: may be onto something with the whole truck, you know,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: making model and color. But it's like we're in the
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Houston area. That's just never ending.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in Texas, fifties Tundras are made in San Antonio.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: There's trucks galore around here.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Well specifically that truck. There was still tons of those.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Well f one fifty is the best selling truck.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's not what was there though, So I don't
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: know what that matters.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Well, Nissan Frontiers, Oh no, that's the Titan is the
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Tundra competitor. The Frontier is the smaller truck like the Tacomas.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, Nissan Titan, Okay, now I know what that is.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, your brother had one of those.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was a mistake.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: It was a fine truck.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: It was a mistake. He corrected it.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: No, he had that was a mistake.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Well, that thing within a couple of months what broke completely,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: the completely blew and it was in the shop for
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: longer than he actually owned it. And then as soon
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: as he got it out, he sold it because it.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Was like such a waste twelve hundred dollars.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: And he had to go back and forth on the
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: whole warranty and everything, and it was like, basically a
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: brand new truck, who's the motor just blew up? It's like, oh,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: we're not going to cover that.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Then he got into it with the you know, because
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: then it took way a really long time. So then
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: he got into it the whole thing about the rental car.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: They didn't want to pay for the un Yeah, they
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: didn't want.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: To pay the rental car, and he's like, it's not
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: my fault. You had my truck for six months, all right. So,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: with nothing to go on with the video, they asked
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: the family to watch it, which was a difficult thing
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: for them to ask of them, but the family was
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: willing to do it if they could possibly find a killer,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: because they're going to watch their wife and daughter be
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: you know, murdered.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, nothing was ringing a bell. They tried and tried
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: and tried. They just could not place the person, which
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: it didn't help that the person was wearing the wig
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: and everything like that. They continued to pull video footage
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: and found that the killer had driven through the neighborhood
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: the night before, so they were around, maybe seeing where
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: they wanted to park. Things like that. They were at
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: a loss with the evidence. They needed to find a
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: reason Lee Liz would be murdered because she was clearly targeted.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: This was not a planned, premeditated Yes that appears.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, coming up and shooting someone at point blank range,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: not taking anything with the disguise, not taking anything. There
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: was no sexual component to it. Nothing, and this woman
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: did not appear to have any enemies, So I just
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: don't They're just like, who would want to kill her?
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Police started with the garage cell. Normally Liz would have
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: been headed to work that morning since it was a Friday,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: but she was at home setting up the garage cell,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: so it would have Police theorized it would have had
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: to been someone that knew she would be home, Like
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: they're thinking, possibly work related. They started at the work.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: She worked at an oil and gas company that worked
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: with pipelines. Everyone there would have known she was taking
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: the day off.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Worked with pipelines myself, yes, but this.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Was another dead end. They needed to look outside of
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: her work, and this would be her friends that were
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: part of the Star Wars fandom.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: That she just what can I just elaborate on the
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: thing With the work they did look in everybody that
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: she worked with it. I think it was a smaller
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: office and everybody had.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: A solid company type stuff. Yep, not a massive organization.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and she didn't have any beef with anybody at
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: the pipeline companies.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Do because she was a vegetarian and I.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Ain't fucking scared of him. Name that tune.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: And you win a shout out.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: As they were looking into this angle, they find that
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Liz and Sergio would dress up as stormtroopers which were
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: to be where this were wearing these large white boots
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: as the person in the video had on.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: That was a weird connection.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Now if this was Louisianana, that would be some of
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: them del Cambra reebox as they call him, them white
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: shrimp boots down in Delcam.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So they don't yeah, because they don't know in
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: the video of things were the exact boots, but they
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: were just saying that they were large white like rain boot,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: possibly stormed.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: I would look at somebody with a Delcum connection, Okay, yes,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: those look like some scrump and boots. The person in
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: the video that morning had some large white boots, as
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: we stated, and they asked if they had any issues
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: in the group, and Sergio said they had a few scuffles,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: but nothing.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I want to know what. I'm gonna need you to elaborate,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Sergio on what the scuffles were in your Star Wars
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: fan group.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: That Stormtrooper uniform is not the code from this movie.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: That was pre this movie, and you can't be wearing
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: it in this context.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: That's probably like what it was happenings to.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like Renaissance fairs throwdowns. Yeah, that necklace is not
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: period to the renisauce that we were having. You need
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: to take that off or I will snatch that off
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: your neck.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Becky.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Police investigated all the members of the five hundred and
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: first Legion.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: It's just the group's name.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: I think it's a star I did watch Star Wars.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: I've never seen a Star Wars and I'm gonna go
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: to you know, at this point in my life, I'm
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: just gonna wear that as a badge of honor and
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: go to my grave never having seen a Star Wars movie.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Well, they were awesome when you were like seven year
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: old growing up seeing them, but.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Really I wouldn't know. I wasn't here, meaning on this planet.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: No, you weren't. You want to go there. I don't.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Where I'm of a Titanic. Persons to oh Jesus, yes,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: I'm still in the Titanic's folks, Okay, still in the Titanic.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: This ship is sinking. Yes, all right, we need to
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: get done with this. So this had so so so
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: they find nothing in this Star Wars five hundred and
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: first legion. If you're a Star Wars fan, let us
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: know where that reference comes.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: From from a movie or a cartoon or something.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: I thought it was something with the taxes, but I
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: guess that makes more sense.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: I was like, what is it?
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: What is it?
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: If you're five oh five? Yeah, I thought maybe it
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: was something with that. But now that you're saying that,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: that's not what. That's not why it was called that. Okay,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: this had to be someone that new details about Liz's life,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: like what her schedule was, where her doorbell camera was located,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: where to position in the truck, all these types of things.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: And they started to think it was a professional hit.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: But why would the truck return to the scene. That's
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: not a professional. But you know what, not all professionals
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: are professionals do sometimes.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: They're just like this, somebody found on Craigslist.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Yes, so maybe they just they was a professional, but
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: not a true professional. So they asked Sergio if Liz
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: had any life insurance policies, and he said that he
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: believed she did have one, but wasn't sure how much
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: it was worth or anything like that. Well, please pull
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: the records and they find that she had one at
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: work that was worth five hundred thousand dollars.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Sergio, we need to talk.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: And that had increased from two hundred and fifty thousand
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: dollars from not long ago. Yes, and Sergio was the
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: beneficiary beneficiary, beneficiary, beneficiary, but they knew he was not
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: the killer because he was they know.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: He wasn't they wasn't the trigger man.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: No, he was, you know, he wasn't a and he
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: didn't look like the killer. But could Sergio have hired someone?
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: That is the question.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: They did find Sergio's behavior to be odd that morning
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: after he you know, because he showed up before the
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: police could even call him. Well after they talent they
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: questioned him and stuff, and like you can go be
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: with your wife and everything because she was life flighted,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: you know, to the hospital. He actually hung around the
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: home for a while after the cops released him, and
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: he actually was like talking to the neighbors. He was
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: speaking to the media like two shits that could be
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: given about hurrying up and getting to his wife's side,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: which could be her last, you know, time on this earth. Yes,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: he did eventually go, but it just found odd.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Like you would be before she expired.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I have no ideas.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Do somebody should have probably researched.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you should have, but they the couple did
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: seem very happy. Things were just not adding up, like
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: why was it really worth it to him to kill
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: her over this? His behavior was odd, but they don't
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: have any evidence pointing to why he would do this
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: except for I feel like five hundred thousand big ones.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: But or she keeps wearing the wrong Storm storm Troopers.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Suit to the is Stormtroopers in Star Wars or Star
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: what's the other one?
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Star Trek Boy, you better help there right now? Battle
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: lines have been drawn, all right.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: So they pulled Sergio's phone and it came back with
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: no like strange activity or anything like that. Because they
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: believe that the person who killed Liz. They're trying to
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: put together why they would come back by They believe
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: probably then phone. Well that's why it's a burner phone, stude.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: They don't know if he had one, he would have
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: disposed of it.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, I know, we need to look into this.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Well there's things we need to look into, stu. So anyway,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: so they they believe that the reason the person drove
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: back by was maybe to do that confirmation call. So
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: they believe that they would have called someone at that time.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Said it's done, took a picture maybe.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but would have called and said, yes,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: it's done. And they were calling the person that hired
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: them to let them know all was good and everything
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: like that. Well, they keep looking through the finances and
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: everything like that, and they didn't. They did find that
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: one of Sergio's paychecks had bounced and he was not
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: able to cash it, so that money wasn't coming in.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: They asked him about it, and he said that he
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: actually worked for his father, was his father's business, and
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: his father had been having financial issues due to his
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: multiple affairs. Dude, So Pops was spent all this money, yes, married,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: oh was this business? Spending all his money trying to
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: keep these women happy, and then supposedly he couldn't pay
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: that that paycheck that that Sergio God actually bounced and
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: everything like that. Well, as they're talking to Sergio about this,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: he tells them that Liz was very upset with her
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: father in law of Auscor because now the paycheck's bouncing,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: he's brought he's cheating on his wife.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: They're ready to go to earls. So now she's got
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: to sell all of her ship together. Yes, because because
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Sergio is not getting a paycheck.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, So they they believe that Liz actually confronted Oscar
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: about his financial issues, about his affairs and everything like that.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: So they're starting to wonder if Austin would have wanted
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: to Okay, this is a stretch. Okay, guys, you're.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Gonna tell people why it's a stretch. Now.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, guys right now that we're all
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: the way this is unsolved.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Which this is the strip club all over again. I
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: gave them we got blue balls.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: I'm myself experienced, and as I was writing this case
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: and watching this, I do I do not particularly care
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: for unsolved cases. I know there's whole podcasts dedicated to
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: unsolved mysteries. It's not my thing. I need to have.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: I need to finish.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: I need to finish as well.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: So when it came down to too unsolved, I almost
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: scrapped the whole thing, but I'm like, no, I've already
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: written this, so we got to keep moving forward.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Guys.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: So they think this is a bit of a stretch.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: So we're about to We're about to do but you
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: know what I thought. I was like, I know, it
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: keeps moving my microphone. We're in the closet, and we're
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: still in the closet. We don't have to be, but
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: we're still in here because we didn't move all the equipment.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, this is I don't like that.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: It's unsolved. I don't like this. However, it did give me.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Gives us a chance to do our most favorite thing,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: which is speculating.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: Speculate and talk make shit up.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: So they thought that maybe Oscar the dad, the father
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: in law, this was a stretch they wanted. They thought
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: that he would have Liz killed and his son collects
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: the the money, and then his son would give him
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: the money.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: He'd borrow it. Hey son, I need to make borrow
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: a little money.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: But that doesn't like me.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: I'll pay you back.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense to me. So it still
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: unsolved to this day. So if you have any information,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: please let in Tom Ball, Texas. I think Sergio did it.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: You think Sergio did it? Why?
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Who else would want to do this? He just got
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: five hundred gees. He can go to universe, universe or whatever.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: He was acting funny at the crime scene.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Where's the black truck, fitt in.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: He hired somebody? Oh yes, he hired somebody to do this.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: This is the only logical explanation.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: So you think Sergio did it, collected the money, and
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: now he's off at his little fandom like just.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Giving it as Hermione Granger girlfriend.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: You like that, don't you? Hermione? How's that magic?
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: Okay, Galatio h it's pronounced filatio. Okay, we need to
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: get in Valdosta. It's Valdosta. That Valdosta.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: We've got ripped so hard on though one of us did?
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: All right, who do you I think Sergio Art's one
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: to do this and he's just gotten away with it?
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: What do you think? I don't think the father in
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: law had anything to do with this.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: He might have agged him on. I'd have to see
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: financial records, but possibly a joint effort.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Because they're saying that there's no financial issues or whatever,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: and maybe not on the surface, but she was obviously
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: having to sell some of her stuff to pay for
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: a trip to Universal.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, because somebody wasn't getting damn paycheck.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: They weren't going to like it's what is.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Sergio doing now?
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know, work floor.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's working for a different company.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: He was he was interviewed on the episode. They did
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: interview him and he said he did not do it.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Oh well, I guess they didn't do it, so that
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: disparage the man.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think that's the only thing because she
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: didn't have any enemies. No one's gonna kill her over
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: some stupid Star Wars club or something.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Oh almost shot somebody over memorabilia because it in pain.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: That was then he went to jail. Star Wars stuff
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: is worth money. That's certain people anyways, thousands of dollars.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: But nobody stole anything. What was the benefit.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: I'm speculating this through all right.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: So that's our case. Sorry, it's unsolved. If you know
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: who did it, please let the police know. Stu, do
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: you ever.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Tell us so we can tell the poll.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: There's a fifty dollar reward. There is a fifty thousand
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: dollars awards.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: We'd be the number one podcast in the nation if
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: we saw this crime at least for a week.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is kind of crazy. There has to
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: be a reason for it. Though the only person had
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: a reason was Sergio. There's nobody else that would want
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: to do this. It wasn't some random killing that someone
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: just walked up and decided to shoot this person and
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: then leave.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Star Wars Stormtrooper boots on or not, or just happen
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: to be white boots. Maybe he hired somebody from the
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Stormtrooper group to kill her. Maybe and he's like, hey,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: you know, and be cool if I dressed up as
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: a Stormtrooper.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: They're like, that's too far. Boots only, boots only, Okay. Yeah.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: So, or he hired somebody from Delcum the killer.
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: Yes, round up the citizens of Dolcum, tell him there's
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: a crawfish boil.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: You'll get them all and then start fingerprinting everybody. Yep,
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: it'll be kind of hard with all that.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Well, no, it'll be the dust, the dust form to
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: slap your mama fingerprints, all right, Do you have a yelling.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Jesus, of course I got a yelling. I always have
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: a ye.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, what is it?
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: It is a recap, It is a revisit. We're gonna I.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Gotta do something on my microphone next time because I
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: keep moving it.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Well, if you knew how to hold them, like Stewart.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: What is wrong with you? Okay? What what do you
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: have it? Readie? Or am I going to have to
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: fill in with additional talk neighborhood talk. I'm not going
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: to tell you about this situation at work because what
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: if somebody actually worked with listen to this? So we're
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: not going to talk about that. But yeah, if it
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: was on the Patreon, then yes I would talk about it.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: But is that going to be our.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Stewart, I've been promising these people Patreon content for years
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: and haven't come through. I'm not going to promise them
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: anything else. We were thinking about doing like a weekly
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: chit chat kind of where we just talk about our
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: talk about like some current Oh Karen Reid do Karen
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Reid was found not guilty of murder and she was
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: found guilty of dulled w I yeah, so go Karen Reid,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: because that's some shady shit. That's happening with that.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: That sounded like.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: There's a new dateline episode tonight about the Karen Reid trial.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: That's what we're gonna want.
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  Speaker 2: And then the other guy that did the Idaho murders,
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  Speaker 2: This guy's been stringing out this court date.
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  Speaker 1: Forever and it's coming up though.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they got like DNA evidence of him at
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  Speaker 2: the scene.
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  Speaker 1: And well, the dad, one of the dads of the
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  Speaker 1: one of the people that was killed, said that there's
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff that never came out, and they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be everyone's gonna be shocked when they hear the
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  Speaker 1: when they see the trial.
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  Speaker 2: Shocked. Yes, two in the Pink.
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  Speaker 1: And Stewart read your yall need Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this is a circle back to a yall need
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  Speaker 2: Jesus we have done previously.
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  Speaker 1: We don't want to circle back.
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  Speaker 2: To the urinating You ain't no hollow back girl. No,
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  Speaker 2: you remember we had to circle back on the urinating
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  Speaker 2: girl that was urinating on the groceries in the store. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: this is not that. This comes to us from Law
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  Speaker 2: and Crime. October fourth, twenty twenty three. We did a
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  Speaker 2: y'all need Jesus where two young lads were found at
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  Speaker 2: the scene of a gruesome murder because they were parked
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  Speaker 2: on the side of the road. Oh yeah, when the
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  Speaker 2: guy up the flashers on.
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  Speaker 1: On the supero.
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  Speaker 2: Now the cops are like hand, these people are in distress.
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  Speaker 2: Let me pull over and see what's going on. And
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  Speaker 2: lo and behold they catch two fellas dumping a body.
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  Speaker 2: The two New Jersey brothers have confessed to their roles
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  Speaker 2: in the murder of a third New Jersey man who
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  Speaker 2: was killed just months before he was set to start
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  Speaker 2: classes in pursuit of a master's degree. Classic Jersey Kevin
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  Speaker 2: Rossero twenty six, died on June sixteenth, twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania. His body was found in a wooded area
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  Speaker 2: along East Pumping Station Road in Richland Township. According to
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  Speaker 2: Bucks County District Attorney, Where's it in where this happened
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  Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania, All three men were from Jersey. The sat
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  Speaker 2: and gruesome discovery was made by Pennsylvania State troopers within
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  Speaker 2: an hour or so of the slain. His two assailants
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  Speaker 2: were almost instantly caught. Over time, they both accepted legal
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  Speaker 2: culpability for their parts they played in killing Roseero. Joshua
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  Speaker 2: David Gamble nineteen pleaded guilty to robbery, conspiracy well he's
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  Speaker 2: like seventeen at the time of the morning, conspiracy to
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  Speaker 2: commit robbery, theft, tampering with or fabricating its physical evidence,
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  Speaker 2: and abuse of a corpse. In November twenty twenty two,
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  Speaker 2: his elder brother, Anthony Joel Gamble twenty two, pleaded guilty
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  Speaker 2: to murder in the third degree and criminal conspiracy to
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  Speaker 2: commit robbery. Pennsylvania is only one of three US jurisdictions
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  Speaker 2: with a third degree murder statute still on the books.
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  Speaker 2: Maximum sentence for third degree murder is forty years in
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  Speaker 2: state prison on June twenty one. In June of twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty one, just minutes after midnight, troopers noticed two cars
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  Speaker 2: parked on the side of the road. One of those
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  Speaker 2: cars was a Subaru with its lights flashing. There was
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  Speaker 2: also an Audi without active blame makers parked roughly one
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  Speaker 2: hundred feet away from the Suparu. They found Joshua Gamble
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  Speaker 2: lying on the ground in the woods, apparently trying to
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  Speaker 2: avoid detection around him, where telltale evidence suggested that a
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  Speaker 2: brutal crime had been committed and he was part of it.
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  Speaker 2: Blood on his shoes, a plastic coated work glove on
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  Speaker 2: his left hand and in his possession a crimson stain
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  Speaker 2: keep up to the Subaru. The companion glove was recovered
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  Speaker 2: from where he was lying.
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  Speaker 1: But does it fit?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Evidently, because he did, it would be.
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  Speaker 1: The Audi killing the person in the superoo.
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  Speaker 2: That's you think.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: After detaining the first suspect, troopers heard rustle of a
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  Speaker 2: runner nearby. Soon enough, Anthony Gamble was caught and placed
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  Speaker 2: into custody as well. The second suspect was also covered
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  Speaker 2: in blood on his shoes and his shirt at this time,
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  Speaker 2: and in his pants pockets he had two plastic coated
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  Speaker 2: work type gloves.
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  Speaker 1: So why are they killing? I'm getting to them, okay,
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  Speaker 1: taken a long time.
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  Speaker 2: It's like when you asked me at the beginning of
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  Speaker 2: the movie what's happening?
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  Speaker 1: If you watch, I'm unsatisfied with this unsolved mystery.
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  Speaker 2: Over here, I will satisfy you, Babby.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: The investigation then turned to the Audi, inside the luxury car,
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  Speaker 2: which had Florida plates Jersey Florida in a Florida car,
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  Speaker 2: Troopers found a substantial amount of blood and called for backup.
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  Speaker 2: Near the Audi was Rosseero lying on the ground close
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  Speaker 2: to where Joshua Gamble had been found trying to hide
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  Speaker 2: moments earlier. They said that the deceased man appeared to
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  Speaker 2: have been dragged there, and autopsy later determined that Rossero
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  Speaker 2: had been stabbed twenty eight times Jesus in the face,
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  Speaker 2: neck and upper torso and upper extremities. Inside the audi
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  Speaker 2: on the passenger floor was a large knife covered in blood.
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  Speaker 1: A cell phone could have been a whole episode st it.
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  Speaker 2: Could have been covered. No, this is terrible. Sanitizing wipes
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  Speaker 2: and a second cell phone were found on the roof
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  Speaker 2: of the vehicle. Sanitizing wipes, sanitizing. Yeah, he went out
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  Speaker 2: and got a box of Clorox wipes or something to
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  Speaker 2: clean up his twenty eight stab rooms. Yeah, that's gonna work.
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  Speaker 1: He probably got the great value kind too. It's not
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  Speaker 1: even like thick Clorox.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, it's I don't know, maybe maybe not. As
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  Speaker 2: it turns out, is.
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  Speaker 1: Subru it's probably like reusable.
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  Speaker 2: The attempt to cover up was hasty and cut short
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  Speaker 2: by the presence of law enforcement. Pennsylvania State Police determined
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  Speaker 2: the sanitizing wipes had been purchased from a nearby seven
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  Speaker 2: to eleven store. Oh, come on, just twenty minutes before
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  Speaker 2: the troopers arrived on the scene.
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  Speaker 1: That's even lower than great value, and you probably paid
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  Speaker 1: three times as much too. It's seven eleven.
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  Speaker 2: They say that Rozero had dreams of becoming an immigration
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  Speaker 2: lawyer and would have begun class in the coming September.
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  Speaker 2: He was apparently killed over a matter of a few
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  Speaker 2: hundred dollars.
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  Speaker 3: But they spent that much on the wipes at the
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  Speaker 3: seven eleven, right, and probably the answer energy drink.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, these people are so stupid, because if you want
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  Speaker 1: to clean up a crime scene, you don't get wipes,
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  Speaker 1: just burn the vehicle, just set everything on fire.
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  Speaker 2: Are you trying to aid in the bet criminals?
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  Speaker 1: And you're just saying this is so stupid. I can't
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  Speaker 1: believe they're worried about a couple hundred bucks and they
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  Speaker 1: spot this is the most the true crime that you
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  Speaker 1: bought wipes at a seven eleven. You know how inflated
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  Speaker 1: those prices are? Right insane.
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  Speaker 2: An analysis of Anthony Gamble cell phone showed searches for
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  Speaker 2: seven eleven junk yards near me and can soap wash off.
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  Speaker 1: Fingerprints, fire can fire.
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  Speaker 2: An analysis of Joshua Gamble cell phone showed a four
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  Speaker 2: hundred dollars transfer from Rozero's cash shapp account made at
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  Speaker 2: eleven twenty pm on June sixteenth, twenty twenty one, forty
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  Speaker 2: three minutes before troopers spotted the vehicles and began the investigation.
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  Speaker 2: You want to know what is worth? Wow, it's four
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  Speaker 2: hundred dollars to be split two ways, So two hundred
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  Speaker 2: dollars per person, so what.
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  Speaker 1: And then minus one hundred dollars for the wipes, so
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  Speaker 1: three hundred dollars split two ways. Question? Note why did
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  Speaker 1: he owe money?
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  Speaker 2: Did he owe money or they just stealing?
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  Speaker 1: Wow?
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  Speaker 2: He didn't get into that whether Rosero was shady or not.
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  Speaker 1: He was like, well, he graduated college and was going to.
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  Speaker 2: Get his master's degree.
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  Speaker 1: He musted them and he was driving a Subaru.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, well, I don't know what belonged to him. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if he had the Audi and.
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  Speaker 1: No, the criminals probably had the Audi. You think, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that seems the brothers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, so that is because when I was.
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  Speaker 1: Like, probably like a a two thousand and three ALTI
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  Speaker 1: a fours something something nice, No, two thousand and threes.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't a lunch. Yes from two thousand and three.
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  Speaker 2: But yes, whenever I did that yell need Jesus, somebody commented,
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  Speaker 2: we need to follow up on this.
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  Speaker 1: Well, here you are two years later.
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  Speaker 2: We have the few years later weever long.
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  Speaker 1: Don't say we don't try.
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  Speaker 2: Don't say we don't follow her.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it may take a long time, but we'll get there.
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  Speaker 1: M h.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it took us seven years to get married,
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  Speaker 2: so yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Took us ten years to have a child, and then
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  Speaker 1: we just popped them out.
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  Speaker 2: Though.
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  Speaker 1: Look at you guys. You guys didn't expect us to
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  Speaker 1: be back this week, did you? But here we are.
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  Speaker 1: We've been week after week after week for like at
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  Speaker 1: least four weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Whenever we just ghosted you back in twenty twenty, you
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  Speaker 2: didn't expect us to come back, did you.
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  Speaker 1: Here we are bitches. Okay, all right, So STU, do
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  Speaker 1: you have anything else to add?
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  Speaker 2: You want me to raid some more stuffes.
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  Speaker 1: No, Patreon, check us out, Facebook, check us out, Instagram,
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  Speaker 1: TikTok if you want documentary recommendations. I'm going to this week.
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  Speaker 1: These last two weeks at work been really rough, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to get back on the documentaries and then
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  Speaker 1: buy us a coffee. Nobody ever does. But hey, just
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  Speaker 1: starting they.
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  Speaker 2: Start one called buy me a whiskey, so I can
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  Speaker 2: get in on the action.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well that's what's Yes, everything's expensive here, yes,
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  Speaker 1: And to.
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  Speaker 2: A liquor store. What kind of ship is this? And
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  Speaker 2: Louise Anne, you just go to the gas station, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and get a.
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  Speaker 1: Fifth, but you also pay them seven eleven prices though
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  Speaker 1: that's not to it's it's.
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  Speaker 2: Actually cheap liquor store.
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  Speaker 1: All right, And I guess that is it. I guess
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  Speaker 1: we will see you next time. Viral one say bye, Stew.
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  Speaker 2: Don't you know it's bad to be SUPERSTI shots by
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  Speaker 2: mapping Elsin's working. It's sick. This word can