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Ep. 484: Rut Fresh Radio 11/24/2021 - Avoiding Orange Armies · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to hunts rut Fresh Radio, bringing you
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  Speaker 1: the latest reports from the White tailed Woods and now
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  Speaker 1: your host, Spencer new Hearth. This is episode four hundred
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  Speaker 1: and eighty four of Wired Hunts rout Fresh Radio powered
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  Speaker 1: by First Light, and this week we're talking about avoiding
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  Speaker 1: the Orange Armies. Welcome to Wired hunts rut Fresh Radio.
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  Speaker 1: This is episode four eight four And Uh, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: joined by Mark Kenyon today because he's out on assignment,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have any sell service. I can't get a text
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  Speaker 1: or phone call through to him, so I'm joined by
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  Speaker 1: Tony Peterson instead. And Tony, today, I want to talk
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  Speaker 1: to you about bow hunting during on seasons. Mid November
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  Speaker 1: probably represents a time um when there are a maximum
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  Speaker 1: amount of gun seasons for white tails open across the country.
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  Speaker 1: So it's relevant now more than ever. And uh, the
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  Speaker 1: reason I'm asking you this question, Tony, is because when
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  Speaker 1: is the last time you killed a white tail with
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  Speaker 1: a gun? Oh? Man? Uh, I guess probably about three
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  Speaker 1: years ago. Three or four years ago. I used to
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  Speaker 1: I used to muzzleloader hunt really hard, and I've kind
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  Speaker 1: of gotten out of it. We just by losing a
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  Speaker 1: few spots to hunt and just having different priorities. But
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  Speaker 1: it's been a few years anyway. Yeah, so you are
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  Speaker 1: a white tail killing son of a gun with a
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  Speaker 1: bow instead. That's why I want to hear your input
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  Speaker 1: on this. So, when the Orange Armies are in the
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  Speaker 1: woods in the Midwest and you are still looking for
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  Speaker 1: your own white tail with a bow, what are some
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  Speaker 1: themes Tony, Like, how are you finding deer this time
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  Speaker 1: of year? Say, gun seasons have been open or a
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  Speaker 1: week by now, um, and you're entering the woods to
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  Speaker 1: try to kill one with archery equipment? How are you
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  Speaker 1: finding deer? And like, what are some differences you're noticing
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  Speaker 1: than in areas that don't have gun seasons open right now?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I really I think we kind of look
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  Speaker 1: at where the deer go during gun seasons as we
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  Speaker 1: think of it too big. Sometimes we think like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: they move on to some property that doesn't allow hunting
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  Speaker 1: or some kind of sanctuary. But you know, I see
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  Speaker 1: this a lot where I'm pheasant hunting or I'm scouting
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  Speaker 1: this time of year, and I jumped deer in places
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  Speaker 1: on especially on public land, a lot where they're just
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  Speaker 1: in really tight cover and they don't want to move,
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  Speaker 1: and so I think we always think that they're just gone,
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  Speaker 1: But really you got to think of it from the
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  Speaker 1: perspective of you know, how many deer could you hide
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  Speaker 1: in half an acre of cat tails. You might think
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  Speaker 1: like there's gonna be zero deer in there, but when
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  Speaker 1: you go walk through them this time of year, those
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  Speaker 1: deer know every one of those spots are kind of
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  Speaker 1: unapproachable for us, like they're gonna know we're there. And
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  Speaker 1: I see this over and over and over this time
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  Speaker 1: of year where I always like in my head, I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: they're there. There's someplace big and far, and what they
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  Speaker 1: are is underfoot in you know, a nice little island
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  Speaker 1: in the swamp, or they're somewhere where just we're just
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  Speaker 1: not looking, and it's usually a really tiny patch of
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  Speaker 1: cover that hides them really well. So say it's November
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  Speaker 1: and you're entering a new area and you have like
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  Speaker 1: one day to scout before you're gonna be hunting for
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  Speaker 1: a week. What are some things you're looking for. Are
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  Speaker 1: you just specifically looking for tight covering that you're then
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  Speaker 1: not entering, or are you looking for rubs and scrapes?
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  Speaker 1: Are you trying to just find places where they're on
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  Speaker 1: Other people like, what are you looking for in late
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  Speaker 1: November for in season scouting. I'm looking for where Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm not looking for rubs and scrapes. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not looking for anything that feels like an easy place
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  Speaker 1: to hunt, like that nice woods that's open and would
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  Speaker 1: be a great place to call in turkeys. That's I
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  Speaker 1: sucks for deer right now. I'm looking at it like
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  Speaker 1: where are the overgrown homesteads, Where are the thickest, thickest
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  Speaker 1: parts of whatever property I'm hunting, And I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 1: in and look. And you know, if you have snow,
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  Speaker 1: it's really easy this time of year to see if
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  Speaker 1: there's current deer usage. But a lot of places don't.
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  Speaker 1: And so to me, it's just a matter of you know,
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  Speaker 1: what are the tracks on the ground, what what what's
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  Speaker 1: the concentration of dear usage look like? And it's not
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  Speaker 1: gonna be you know, they might be places where there's
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  Speaker 1: rubs and stuff from earlier in the season, but it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be tracked, it's gonna be trails, it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: the deer I jump that I almost step on. Those
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  Speaker 1: are really valuable to me because they're kind of a
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  Speaker 1: you know, there are constant confidence booster, but also they
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  Speaker 1: show you there was a deer writing this thing out
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  Speaker 1: right here, that that's real important information. Alright. Well, on
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  Speaker 1: the flip side of the coin, say you are a
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  Speaker 1: gun hunter. Um, I know you recently had an episode
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  Speaker 1: of Foundations that was about how on hunters should think
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  Speaker 1: like bow hunters. You give us a quick synopsis of
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  Speaker 1: what that means. If you're a gun hunter. What can
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  Speaker 1: you learn for someone with our tree equipment. You got
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  Speaker 1: to forget about the big beautiful views and you've got
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  Speaker 1: to get in tight, you know. I mean it's we
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  Speaker 1: we just in bow hunters do this too, but gun
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  Speaker 1: hunters are are fantastic at trying to find places where
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  Speaker 1: they can reach out and touch into here. You know,
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  Speaker 1: and you think you're gonna increase your odds of if
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  Speaker 1: you can see three hundred yards in every direction, or
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  Speaker 1: you sit on that power line and you can shoot
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  Speaker 1: both ways for three yards like this is this is
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  Speaker 1: the spot these are you know, this is my highest odds.
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  Speaker 1: But these deer they know where to go when the
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  Speaker 1: pressure kicks in and to get them to make a
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  Speaker 1: big mistake like moving across a wide open clear cut.
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  Speaker 1: You know, four or five, six days into the gun season,
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  Speaker 1: they're kind not gonna do it. You've gotta get into
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  Speaker 1: some tighter stuff. Now, let's goope down to three power
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  Speaker 1: and hunt in security cover and it's it's a hard
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  Speaker 1: thing to do, but with a little in season scouting
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  Speaker 1: and the willingness to sit type stuff, it usually works.
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  Speaker 1: Or a can word. Yeah, all themes you're gonna hear
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  Speaker 1: from our interviews this week, and we talked to hunters
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  Speaker 1: from West Virginia, Montana, Georgia, and Missouri. And like every week,
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  Speaker 1: we have reading materials for you in the in the
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  Speaker 1: description of the episode, if you just scroll down wherever
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  Speaker 1: you're listening to at you're gonna see these articles linked
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  Speaker 1: right now that are relevant for being in the woods
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  Speaker 1: right now. Right now, we have articles like how to
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  Speaker 1: kill the big buck at the end of the Ruts
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  Speaker 1: by Tony Peterson. Tony talks about how volume hunting and
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  Speaker 1: seeking hot doughs can help you kill them mature white tail.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, we have ten natural food sources every deer
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  Speaker 1: hunter should know by Mark Kenyon. Mark goes over food
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  Speaker 1: sources that can be found across the country and are
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  Speaker 1: especially relevant as we get into post rut, and we
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  Speaker 1: have a caliber battle three oh a Winchester versus two
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  Speaker 1: seventy Winchester by Jordan Sillers. Jordan breaks down two of
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  Speaker 1: the most popular deer cartridges and declares a winner for
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  Speaker 1: which is better for white tail hunters. And then we
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  Speaker 1: have how to kill a buck in late November by
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  Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon Marcus gust Is some themes for hunting when
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  Speaker 1: the rout is coming to an end and guns seasons
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  Speaker 1: are in full swing. So what is next for you? Tony?
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  Speaker 1: What is the next hunt that you have going. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna be trying to kill one more dear with a bow,
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  Speaker 1: and in between that and an this year, I don't
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  Speaker 1: have any buck teggs left. And then in between that,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be chasing a whole bunch of public mind
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  Speaker 1: roosters with my dogs going on. I like it. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you for joining me, Tony. Good luck with that annerless
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  Speaker 1: hunt and killing some roosters. Thanks buddy, all right and
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  Speaker 1: joining us online. Next is Bowl Martinic from East meets
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  Speaker 1: West Hunt and also you can find his articles on
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  Speaker 1: Wired hunt website. Who's just hunting in West Virginia Now?
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  Speaker 1: Bow in West Virginia. What would you say the buck
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  Speaker 1: activity has been lately on a scale of one to ten.
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  Speaker 1: I think in the last three or four days it's
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  Speaker 1: been about a nine. Buck activity has definitely increased with
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  Speaker 1: some cold weather that had moved in and went from
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  Speaker 1: being pretty pretty slow to a lot of movement in
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  Speaker 1: the in the last three or four days. And what
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  Speaker 1: phase of the road would you say, southern West Virginia
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  Speaker 1: is in right now? Uh, the I'd say the chasing
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  Speaker 1: and and then even some of the lockdown. We saw
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  Speaker 1: both of that pretty hard throughout the week. There. Um,
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  Speaker 1: where I was hunting was some reclaimed coal mine, so
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  Speaker 1: you could see always and you could see when bucks
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  Speaker 1: would be locked down with those. There was a mixture
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  Speaker 1: of that. And then also just um, wherever the hot
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  Speaker 1: dough was, you'd see four or five bucks just right
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  Speaker 1: on her tail. So in that phase of the road,
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  Speaker 1: I would say, I know you had some close encounters
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  Speaker 1: with some bucks over the last week. When those happened,
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  Speaker 1: why were you in that area and why would those
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  Speaker 1: bucks want to be there? So most of the areas
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  Speaker 1: that we were focusing on were the big valley fields
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  Speaker 1: that were within the valleys of the reclaimed coal mines.
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  Speaker 1: So at the top out of the timber where there's
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  Speaker 1: where they reclaimed those minds, they put a mixture of
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  Speaker 1: some different clovers and and um grasses and things that
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  Speaker 1: the deer like to feed on. So it seemed like
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  Speaker 1: the does like to hang out there, and and also
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  Speaker 1: the bucks will bet on some of those benches, so
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  Speaker 1: we were able to glass into them, and that seemed
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  Speaker 1: to be where we were focusing on and where most
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  Speaker 1: of the movement was. What were you seeing for signmaking
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  Speaker 1: over the last week of scrapes, we were still pretty
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  Speaker 1: hot um a lot of a lot of fresh scrapes.
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  Speaker 1: It was more of the um more of like the
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  Speaker 1: scrape lines that you would see versus them coming in
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  Speaker 1: and pounding one specific scrape, but more as they were
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  Speaker 1: moving and and cruising and hitting some of the scrapes there.
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  Speaker 1: So that was what I was seeing the most UM
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  Speaker 1: from that, not not so much as as fresh rubs
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  Speaker 1: as scrapes. Were you seeing any midday movement at all? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: There was actually saw more midday movement than any thing
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  Speaker 1: else on, especially on the cold days in the in
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  Speaker 1: the rainy days that that we had hunted um that
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  Speaker 1: that mid middle of the day was was absolute fire.
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  Speaker 1: If you're doing some in seasoned scouting in a forested
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  Speaker 1: area in the east, what are some things that you're
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  Speaker 1: looking for in late November. So the big thing is
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  Speaker 1: trying to figure out where where the dose might be
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  Speaker 1: feeding at this this point, and also the boxes they're
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  Speaker 1: starting to recover. Um. You know, in southern West Virginia
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  Speaker 1: where I was, it's more of the peak rout, but
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  Speaker 1: as you go through most of the the Appalachian Range
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  Speaker 1: east and north is starting to get more into that
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  Speaker 1: post right here now, and they're trying to replenish their body.
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  Speaker 1: So finding any of the fresh clear cuts or if
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  Speaker 1: you're find an areas that still have acorns on the
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  Speaker 1: ground that they're feeding on, they're really starting to hit that,
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  Speaker 1: as well as grasses that you'll find in some gas lines, pipelines,
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  Speaker 1: power lines, things like that. They're really trying to build
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  Speaker 1: up their body. Again, do you notice any big changes
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  Speaker 1: hunting post right in a state like Pennsylvania or West
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  Speaker 1: Virginia then you do in more traditional Midwestern states when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to deer movement and buck activity, Yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: seems to be slower, um, But what I what I
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  Speaker 1: do notice is in that period you do you do
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  Speaker 1: have an opportunity at seeing some of the bigger, more
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  Speaker 1: mature bucks during that time, it's just you you typically
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  Speaker 1: see a few and far in between deer. There's just
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  Speaker 1: there's not as many moving at that period as you
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  Speaker 1: see in more of the pre and and peak rut
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  Speaker 1: phases of that time. So it's it's slower, but it
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  Speaker 1: can really pay off if you find the right right
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  Speaker 1: food source where they're hanging out. If you were running
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  Speaker 1: trail cameras right now and big timber in the east,
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  Speaker 1: where would you want those to be located at. I'd
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  Speaker 1: want to run them on scrapes on the edge of
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  Speaker 1: a newer clear cut um um, or on the edge
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  Speaker 1: of on the edge of some thick cover that's going
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  Speaker 1: out on a point of oaks that have acorns that
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  Speaker 1: are dropping. Some of the similar stuff that you would
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  Speaker 1: see during the pre run as far as cameraplacement, but
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  Speaker 1: focused more around the food than I would around uh,
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  Speaker 1: some of the betting cover going forward. Then, in the
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  Speaker 1: next week or so, what do you think that buck
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  Speaker 1: ACTVT is going to be On a scale of one
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  Speaker 1: to ten in West Virginia, I would say the buck
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  Speaker 1: activity is still would will still be about an eight,
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  Speaker 1: maybe even a nine. Still, it just really seemed like
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  Speaker 1: it was heating up, and especially with the mature bucks
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  Speaker 1: moving in the last few days that I was there,
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  Speaker 1: So I would expect that to continue through this week.
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  Speaker 1: As as a temperature, you're still still pretty cold for
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  Speaker 1: this time of year, our bou. Good luck with the
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  Speaker 1: rest of your season. Thanks for joining me. Thanks Spencer
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  Speaker 1: all right and joining us on the line. Next is
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  Speaker 1: Keith Thompson from Montana. White Tails in Montana. Now Keith
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  Speaker 1: in Montana. What would you say the buck activity has
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  Speaker 1: been lately? On a scale of one to ten, it's
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  Speaker 1: no better than a five. It's been very hit or us,
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  Speaker 1: I guess if you want to call it the trickle effect.
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  Speaker 1: We've been seeing some younger bucks up on their feet,
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  Speaker 1: moving around early mornings, uh the middle till late afternoon,
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  Speaker 1: but not much going on in the middle of the day,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of the bigger deer we just started
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  Speaker 1: seeing right now. It's been warmer than usual. I mean
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  Speaker 1: it's I'm not one to make excuses, our jobs to make,
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  Speaker 1: you know, make it happen, but it's been awfully windy
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  Speaker 1: and and rather warm, especially for this time of the
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  Speaker 1: year out here. So it's hasn't hasn't benefited us, that's
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  Speaker 1: for sure. So what phases it about? Would you say
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  Speaker 1: white tails in Montana are in right now? Well, the
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  Speaker 1: I guess you could say seeking. I don't know. It's
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  Speaker 1: like you said, the younger bucks seem interested in their
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  Speaker 1: cruising around, but the bigger bucks have just not seeing
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  Speaker 1: And I really don't think they're locked down. I just
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  Speaker 1: we haven't really seen any chasing or anything like that.
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  Speaker 1: I just I don't think they're locked down. It's just
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  Speaker 1: it's been it's been pretty goofy. It's workically, what do
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  Speaker 1: you normally see for signmaking in Montana in late November?
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  Speaker 1: Our scrapes along the field edges are usually torn to
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  Speaker 1: pieces right now and you can generally sit back and
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  Speaker 1: glass of scrape in the morning, and every deer that
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  Speaker 1: leaves the field is usually stopping to check it. And
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  Speaker 1: there again, it's just there's not there hasn't been much
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  Speaker 1: activity as far as that goes. There's there's two scrapes
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  Speaker 1: that are there every year, and they're on the edge
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  Speaker 1: of the field. I mean, I sit there and watch
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  Speaker 1: them all the time and we've had four or five
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  Speaker 1: bucks hited this morning. There again, you know, the oldest
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  Speaker 1: year was probably two and a half years old, and
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  Speaker 1: the bigger bucks were already out of the field by
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  Speaker 1: the time that was light, so I couldn't even see them.
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  Speaker 1: I know they're there, but every once in a while
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  Speaker 1: we'll catch a glimpse of one. But it's just they
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  Speaker 1: haven't the very active this time of year. What food
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  Speaker 1: sources are relevant in a state like Montana, We're hunting
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  Speaker 1: the alfalfa field definitely. Like he said, that's the main
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  Speaker 1: food source. There's not much left for them to eat
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  Speaker 1: other than the alfalfa field. So it helps to you know,
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  Speaker 1: kind of isolate the deer, to haunt them. But it
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  Speaker 1: just it hasn't been a very good lately. Besides on scrapes.
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  Speaker 1: Where do you want to be running your trail cameras
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  Speaker 1: in late November? Um, there again, we don't. We don't
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  Speaker 1: run that many, uh, simply for the fact that we
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  Speaker 1: can pretty much keep visual on our deer from you know,
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  Speaker 1: different vantage points, glassing atmospheres. We we run three or four,
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  Speaker 1: but most of them are on scrapes, just because they're
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  Speaker 1: they're so productive as far as getting different bulks, stopping
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  Speaker 1: and hitting them. But what we do is actually, you know,
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  Speaker 1: visual glassing. As we come into the last weekend of
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  Speaker 1: the season. Say you had a client who is hunting
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  Speaker 1: with a rifle, what does a textbook set up look
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  Speaker 1: like for you guys for that gun hunter on this situation,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm trying to get somewherehere I can see
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  Speaker 1: as far as I can um. We'll have a We'll
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  Speaker 1: get up high where maybe we can look down into
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  Speaker 1: the river bed or cover a lot of ground, especially
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  Speaker 1: with the gun. I mean, I want to I want
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  Speaker 1: to maximize the weapon. So if we can get up
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  Speaker 1: high and maybe glass a buck that has a dough
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  Speaker 1: run off somewhere, if we can watch him bed down somewhere,
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  Speaker 1: we could make a stock on him. That's that's my
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  Speaker 1: main deal. I mean, we do a lot of tree
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  Speaker 1: stand hunting because we have the river bottom and and
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  Speaker 1: it's successful that way. But I personally, I like to
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  Speaker 1: be able to if I can make a move and
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  Speaker 1: cover ground, That's what I want to do going forward. Then,
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  Speaker 1: in this next week or so, what do you think
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  Speaker 1: that buck activt is going to be on a scale
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  Speaker 1: of one to ten in Montana. Well, hopefully a seven
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  Speaker 1: or eight just to close the year out. I saw
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  Speaker 1: there a little bit of a weather front coming through. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I'm hoping that gets things popping here a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: We have we are four hunters less than camps, so
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  Speaker 1: we're trying to we we shot one yesterday, A bow
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  Speaker 1: hunter shot one yesterday, so that was good. Um, but
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  Speaker 1: we're were four four deer tags left. We'd like to
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: you know, go out on top heer to close the year. Alright, Keith,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: good luck to you and your clients in camp. Thanks
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: for joining me. Thank you all right enjoining us on
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: the line. Next is Spencer Kandaschewsky from Redline Hunting in Georgia.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Now Spencer in Georgia. What would you say the buck
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: activity is ben lately on a scale of one to ten. Man, Yeah,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: you know, looking really really being in the woods last
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, I would say these this past couple
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: of days, I would I read about like six or seven. Um,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: we've we've seen a bunch of small bucks chasing does
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: um during the day, you know, Um, but nothing none
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: of our big time um shooter bucks that we got
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: on a camera. I've really I've really shown up really
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: chasing these does yet. Um. And actually we just talked
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: to one of my buddies. He actually, UM, he was
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: hunting and he had one dough come in and he uh,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: that dough brought in about three to four different small bucks.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Um that still ended up leaving. The bucks took off
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: after that dough, and another dough came in and didn't
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: bring one single buck in. So it kind of tells
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: me that some does in this area where we're at,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: you know, Northeast Georgia, some some doughs are hot and
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: some are some are not. So I would think it's
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: kind of starting to really really gear up towards that
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: peak rut. But as as overall out of ten, I
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: would say probably six or seven out of ten for
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: the past couple of days. So what phases it rout
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: would you say Northeast Georgia is in right now? I
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: would say I would say that pre rut really transition
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: into peak rut right now. I think these like coming
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: coming forward. UM. I think the next couple of day
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: is gonna be awesome to be in the woods for.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: And then another story, actually, another firefighter that we worked with, UM,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: he actually called me yesterday about a dough that was
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: caught in the fence. So they got called out to
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: this call, fire truck show up. They got this dough
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: that's stuck in the fence, and they look up and
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: they had a monster eight point buck just staring at
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: staring at this though about fifty yards is actually pretty
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: close to little subdivision with some woods behind it. So uh,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: the guys were trying to get this dough down and
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: this buck would not leave. He just watched the entire time.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: They ended up cutting the dough down and as soon
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: as that dough hit the ground and got on her
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: feet and took off, that buck instantly started chasing her down. So, um,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: it's after any kind of determining factor of of what
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: kind of stage we're in, I think that pretty much
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: means that it's it's almost at that p peak time
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: of rut. I know you're running a lot of trail
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: cameras there. Where do you want to be running your
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: camps in late November in Georgia? You know to start
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: with UM, right now, we're really focused on you know,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: scrapes and rugs. Um, that's where we got a lot
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: of our cell camps, and we really focus a lot
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: of self cameras on the betting areas, you know, coming
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: into coming into the rut. If we can find ourselves
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: kind of hunting the spot where we can get them
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: transition year back and forth from from feeding to betting.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: That's where we really run our cell cameras. Um. And
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: we try not to get in there as much, only
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: if we're gonna hunt it, because we don't want to
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: spook out a lot of these doughs that could eventually
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: be bringing these bring these bucks into that area. But um,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: for the most part, yeah, we're gonna put We're gonna
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: put cameras on scrapes, bettings and buck rubs. What food
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: sources are relevant right now in that part of the country. UM.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: So it's been real hot and heavy on the acorns lately. Um.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: You know, I talked to a lot of guys that
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: do run feeders and stuff, and for the past couple weeks,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: nothing is coming to the theaters. They want no interest
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: in that. Or you know, a couple of people have
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: got to natural food plots as well and still get
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: a couple of dolls and stuff coming out there out there,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: but mostly in the middle of the night. Um. But
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: we had a good supply of acorns stop this year. Um,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: but I do anticipate in the next couple of weeks
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: those are gonna start diminishing a little bit, and I
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: think they'll eventually start working towards more food plots and
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: more feeders if you have them out there. If you're
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: forced to do some in seasoned scouting in late November
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: and Georgia, what are some things that you're looking for? Man,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna really try to find, um find good
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: pinch points and good funnel points for for these deer
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: to be cruising in. If you have do you have
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: the ability where you have enough land where you can
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: get yourself in a in a good in between spot
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: that those transition spots. I think that's gonna be the best,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: the best spot to to try to do some scouting early.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Find find where you want to sit and where you
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: want to where you want to hunt at, and set
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: up there. Um that, And I think you know, in
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: the afternoons especially, these dolls are gonna be out, They're
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: gonna be starting to feed a little bit more and more.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: You're coming into the late November, and I think if
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: you can get on a food plot that'd be also
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: a good option for yourself as well going forward. Then
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: this next week or so, what do you think that
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: bucket TV is going to be on the scale of
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: one to ten in Georgia? Man, I think these next
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, especially the next couple of days, it's
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: going to be a ten out of ten um. I'm
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: really optimistic about that. Like I said, it's it's a
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: weird state, you know, George's you know, we've got so
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: many it seems like we have so many different ruts
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: in different counties. You know, you can talk to one
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: person next to you and they seems like they have
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: no butt rut activity, and then the next person you
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: talked to there and full blown rut um. I think
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: part of the reason before that is we've got introduced
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: who so many different here from different states because they
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: did populate to here to try to get them back here.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: But I think overall this next week coming forward, it's
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: gonna be a ten ten. It's gonna be a it's
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: gonna be a good time to be in the woods,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: and if you can get the time off, I would
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: try to do it. Alright, Spencer, good luck to you
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: and everyone else from red Line Hunting. Thanks for joining me. Awesome,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate it. Thanks Spencer alright and joining us
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: on the line. Last is Nate Thomas from Missouri Woods
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: and Water podcast in Missouri. Now Nate in Missouri, what
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: would you say the buck activity has been lately on
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten, lately, I would say
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: it's probably somewhere around the five. Um. I think a
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: lot of bucks have got those locked down right now.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I think there's also some bucks that are searching for
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: that that second or third or maybe even forth right
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: now they're um looking again, but seems to have piled off,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: especially with this being towards the tail end of our
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: rifle season. UM, seems like it's kind of dying a
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: little bit at least in our area. So what phase
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: of about would you say that Missouri's in right now?
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: If I had to, like say a phase, I would
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: probably say like in the lockdown, you know, second searching
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: for the second time kind of that area right now there, UM,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot less activity on like trail cams
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: with bucks um, and a lot less activity during the day. Now.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I haven't hunted in the past seven days now because
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I did tag out last week. But um, I'm just
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: through talking with certain friends and different people in our area. UM,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I think they're kind of ghost in a little bit
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: and kind of locking down with some of those those
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Now you guys are about two weeks into Missouri's gun season.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: What do you notice for a shifting deer movement at
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: the end of the gun season and going into the
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: archery season again? Yeah from this, UM don't The last
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: two years for sure has hit right at the peak
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: of the rut what I would call like the top
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: of that bell curve um that you hear everybody talk about.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: And I don't think this year was any different. Um,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: those first few days, let's say, five days in the
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: gun season, we're just um, all kinds of craziness. Um.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: And then I think, you know the Orange Army. UM,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything about bad about him. UM, there's
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: so much pressure and craziness that happens those first few days. UM,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I think you see a decrease in in movement, not
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: only because the ruts moving on, but also these deer
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: are just getting harassed by hundreds in the woods and
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of them not only are are
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: trying to rut they're also trying to run for their lives.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: So it's kind of unique in my opinion, in our
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: our state because it's there's all kinds of things going
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: on all at once during that time. What are you
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: seeing for signmaking right now? Not a whole lot. I
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: you know, on my particular property, I saw some scrapes
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: that looked like one of those scrapes that a buck
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: started making but then got bored with it a few
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: seconds into it. Um. You know, I see more just
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: straight up searching more than anything, just cruising, going through
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: betting areas, getting out of there onto the next one. UM.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Not a whole lot of signmaking. You said that you've
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: been observing your trail cameras for the last couple of weeks.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Where do you want to be running your trail cameras
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: in late November in Missouri? Late November, so after deer
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: season or after a rifle season is over. Um, I
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: would go back to that kind of that early season
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: like transition areas. UM. In my opinion, once the ruts
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: kind of tailing off. Sure, you'll have some of those
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: go groups that are coming in late and we're still
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: going to have some activity, I'm sure, But I think
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the bucks are just so run down at that point
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: from running and trying not to die from the rifle hunters,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: that they're gonna be looking to um uh eat again
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: and try to live their lives. So I kind of
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: transition back to those bedding and transition areas to and
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: from from food and what food sources are elevant right
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: now in that part of the country. I've been seeing
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: deer on corn a lot right now, cut corn fields
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: which have been cut for weeks here. Um, seems like
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: every time I see a deer outfeeding, the hearing there
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: in cut corn fields currently going forward. Then in this
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: next week or so, what do you think that buck
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: activity is going to be on a scale of one
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: to ten in Missouri. I think it's probably gonna drop
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: in the next week or so. Um. Rifle season ends
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: in the next day or two here in our state,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: and I think we're on the tail end of our
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: our rut. I mean, I think we're on the lower
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: end of that bell curve. Uh So I think activity
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: is probably gonna drop even more. We're supposed to have
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: a uh some several warm days coming here in the
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: next few days. I think think Giving Day is supposed
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: to be a beautiful day as far as hunting would go,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: but I would say we're probably gonna drop from like
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: A five down to US three or four. Alright, Nate,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: good luck with the rest of your season, and thanks
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: for joining me. All right, thanks Spencer, and that concludes
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: this week's episode of Wired to Haunts Fresh Radio. Thanks
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: to bo Keith, Spencer and Nate for joining me. Thank
• 27:21
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• 27:24
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• 27:28
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• 27:30
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• 27:33
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• 27:36
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• 27:40
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• 28:10
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