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Crushing Strongholds #073 Special Guest Prophet Afolabi- "Wind of Change Ministry" · One Voice Many Conversations

• 0:02
  SPEAKER_02: Hello everyone.
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  SPEAKER_02: Welcome back to another great episode of Cartoon Strongholds.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is a podcast where we turn pain and the power, trauma and the triumph, and a place where we get to expose the lives of the enemy.
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  SPEAKER_02: And how do we do that?
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  SPEAKER_02: We do that by sharing testimonies of people's faith.
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  SPEAKER_02: And today I have an amazing guest that I want to bring on and allow him to introduce himself and share who he is and what he does.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so I'm going to just have a prophet off the lobby come in and say hello and introduce yourself and tell us what you do and tell us all about yourself.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, thank you so much.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm a teacher.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm also a healer.
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  SPEAKER_00: But by spare grace of God, God has endowed this is 24 years in the ministry, and uh God has done a lot in my life, uh, in the life of people that uh God connects me with, and I believe today we are going to see the hand of God, how it's going to move in our midst.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_02: Nice.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, so um I love that you're a prophet, and I feel like you you can share with our listeners today um some discernment that you have and um your perspective on healing.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_02: I think a lot of times, and correct me if you think I'm wrong, but um, I think sometimes we don't use our full potential that God has given us in the ability of healing and um even prophesying.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes I think that we we allow um ourselves to be closed off to what the Holy Spirit wants us to do, we don't fulfill our actual purpose on our and calling for our life.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_02: Could you could do you agree with any of that?
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  SPEAKER_00: Or people in general, not people in general.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_00: The reason why I say not people in general is that if you look at it very well, it's not everybody when Jesus Christ was on head, he healed.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_00: No, there are some people, and why some people are not so healing is a destiny, and then uh if you look at what Jesus Christ is, right?
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_00: It comes for the sick, for the believers, those that have faith and trust in him.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_00: So without faith, we cannot receive anything from God.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_00: There must be a connection, spiritual connection between you and God, and sometimes God will direct you the same way.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_00: A man that was using stone to tear himself, you know, that religion spirit was cast out from his body.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_00: So it's not everybody Jesus Christ raised, it's not all dead bodies Jesus Christ raised from the from the dead, so uh healing and then spiritual uh work of God determine how God directs and leads you.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's how we have hospitals, we have governed hospitals, so there are things which you know is a physical thing that you need government and you need hospital attention, so but there are some things that is spiritual that God will direct you through the app of the Holy Spirit.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_00: So this issue of healing, determining who you are to God and how God lives his servant.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_00: Gotcha.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, that makes sense.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_02: I think that I mean, I know that in the Bible it talks about people having different giftings in in scripture, and that um we um may not all be called for that same type of gifting.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_02: And so um, but I do believe that we still have a purpose and um we can fulfill that purpose with um a type of gifting, maybe not necessarily healing per se.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_02: Um I probably didn't direct my question correctly, but um I think uh with people that are Christians and they have faith, you know, like Peter when he stepped on into the water, he had a lot of faith to step onto the water, but then when he took his eyes off Jesus, he started thinking.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_02: And I know that you can't have faith and fear at the same time.
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  SPEAKER_02: They don't operate together, they operate against each other.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_02: So it's it's it's interesting that as soon as you know um Peter started having faith again, he was able to stand up and Jesus said, Why why why do you have such little faith?
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that we forget that we we have the ability to, if we have faith, to be able to go further and fulfill our purpose and our calling on our life with with walking in that identity, if that makes sense.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_00: Uh L Vicky, I'm trying to uh make something related, and that is going to help you go a long way, and it's going to help the ministry and help the ministry of God.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know that there are people that are meant they call them sheep, and we have what they call shepherd?
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yes, shepherd cannot play a role, a sheep cannot play a role of a shepherd.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_00: And if you look at very well, there was a particular place in the Bible about some people that try to mimic disciples, and they wants to do some healing.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_00: And uh the spirit that was you know tormenting the person said, Peter, I know Jesus I know Paul, I know, who are thou?
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_00: That means this healing, prophecy, and other spiritual institutions that is given to us is not meant for everybody because today, many people today not understanding the spiritual constitution, don't not understand how God works through the help of the Holy Spirit.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_00: Many people have been devolved.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, they say devil comes to steal, to kill, and to destroy.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_00: And he says something again, he has given us power, not power, he has given us power to step up on scorpion and serpent.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_00: But there's one thing I will want you to understand before Jesus Christ says something to Peter, feed my sheep, feed my sheep, I make you a shepherd.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_00: So we have to understand the role of our spiritual life.
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  SPEAKER_00: Are we a shepherd or a sheep?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because that thing is very, very important.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's not every believer has the ability to cast out demons, it's not all the believers have ability to do healings, it's not maybe it's a flop for them not doing that healings, then they can pray, but God has a way of uh sending uh a servant so that it can things can work out the way exactly it should be.
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  SPEAKER_00: So now we have uh we have shepherds and we have sheep, and if you look at disciples, they're apostles, God purposely send them to go and gather all my sheep because the sheep belongs to whom?
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_00: To God, but the capacity, the authority, the power to step upon scorpion and serpents is not giving to hard sheep.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_00: But God always sent prophets as pastors servants, so that's the reason why when you look at church today, you have a servant of God that is directing the church that is praying on behalf of the uh congregations praying for the family.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_00: This is not the flops apart from teaching, there are some certain things that is giving authority to the servant of God, and that is the reason why the assembly of the children of God is a key to the kingdom of God.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_00: So the point many people today are having issues is that because of all the things they've learned so far and they want to try it, and it's not working the way they expect it.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes they feel my faith, isn't it my faith?
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's not too strong enough.
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  SPEAKER_00: The faith is cool, their faith is strong enough, but it doesn't work that way.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when you are close to God and when you are in line with God, God has a way of doing mystery things in your life.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_00: So when you pray to God for some certain things to happen, rest assured that God has heard you and God knows how He's going to do it, and that's where the servant of God comes in.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know, maybe what I'm trying to explain to you is very clear to you.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_02: I get it.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_02: I wanted to know when when did you feel the calling of God on your life?
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_00: I was born as a prophet from my mother's womb, but uh as a child, you know, growing up in Africa, Nigeria, I don't really understand what it's uh uh what it really means to be a servant of God or to be a prophet.
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  SPEAKER_00: So in my elementary school level, in my school life, I know something strange is going on with me, which I cannot really explain.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: And I discover that when I am uh get to uh high school, I do see prophecy of something that wants to happen.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes I caution my friends or colleagues in school.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes they listen and sometimes they look at me like something strange about you until when I now start only the time of when I was in university, college.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_00: That's the time, the real picture now that means when God is about to activate that calling in me.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_00: There's a spiritual challenge that I already give up, that maybe I'm gonna die.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_00: Then my mother prayed for my little brother prayed for me, and I'm now completely healed from the head to toe.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_00: So that's the time I said to myself, I want to know who is God.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_00: So this decision made me to go on fasting and prayer through the directions of pastors.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_00: So after three days of fasting, then I had a voice that I should open a Bible.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_00: Opening a Bible is as sweet as honey, and that's how the whole revelation started.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_00: So when my mother was worried about me, you lock yourself in, you're not really feeling okay.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_00: Then when I opened the door, the church members, the prophecy come, I could be able to see beyond the human knowledge.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_00: So telling the people that have come to check up on me what is going on in their life, they look at my mother.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_00: We never knew your son is a prophet.
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  SPEAKER_00: I never discussed this thing with anyone.
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  SPEAKER_00: How does it know?
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_00: And that's the reason why I say God works in a mysterious way, and that's how the whole story began.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_02: I I love that you say in your profile that you have no power without Christ and and that you recognize him fully um as giving you that ability.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_02: And um, I think that's that's it's you know, it's so important that um, you know, because Lucifer, he wanted all the power and he wanted to take everything.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_02: And and and I love that you're very humble and in your um profile and you talk about how basically um we're you know nothing without Christ.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_02: What is your take on um actual um strongholds with people that are encountering strongholds in their life?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, well, I will say something that is uh very straightforward.
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  SPEAKER_00: Stronghold should not be our barrier.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_00: What did I mean by stronghold should not be our barrier?
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_00: Because first and foremost, not until when we understand the reason of a stronghold, why do we have this stronghold is part of when you talk about bloodline soul and the spirit and you talk about the bloodline before we can come to this world?
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_00: We have to come through DNA, the DNA of our mother, our father.
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  SPEAKER_00: That means, right, half of your fathers uh half of your mother, the crashization of the two, that's that's what makes your bloodline.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I have to be honest with you and be truthful to you when Jesus Christ says something, all have sinned and tortured the glory, he makes it very clear, and if we should look at the story of Jesus Christ too, the reason why it has to go through all what it goes through for us to be saved, the bloodline, because if you look at the root of Jesus Christ, it's the root of King David, and we knew what David did.
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  SPEAKER_00: Jesus Christ only has root of a mother, not the root of a father, because it was conceived by the Holy Spirit.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we should understand something about knowledge of good and knowledge of evil.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is the seed of Adam that we all have.
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  SPEAKER_00: That means there's a tendency of evil and good in us because of that is our origin.
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  SPEAKER_00: So every bloodline has knowledge of good and evil that generate into our lineage.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we're coming to the world, as Jesus Christ said and claimed and proclaimed that all have sinned and cut short the glory, which you understand that what is coming to the world is a soul and a spirit that under judgment into a bloodline that was already judged.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_00: What am I trying to say in the Leman language?
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_02: So, are you talking about generational curses, the curses that are placed on us at birth?
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_02: Is that what you're referring to?
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to give a full explanation.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, because many people today they don't know the reason why this strong goal is affecting us, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't think, I don't do anything.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: Why am I facing these things?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like sometimes why must I face the the cost of my father or the cost of my grandfather, the cause of my father?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like this is this is not fair, God.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why do you allow the covenant or the cost of my of my own parents?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, why am I facing their own judgment?
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: It's something that in us we can't figure it out.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_00: That why must it be me?
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: If my grand great if my great grandfather did something, must I be partaker of what they did?
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: Why can't my great-grandfather alone face his judgment?
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: Why me coming to the world not be partakers of the judgment?
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: And that is exactly what I'm trying to explain so that you can understand the cause, the reason.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: So we don't put blames on our ancestors or our generation who will understand what is going on, and I'm here to give you a full explanation.
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  SPEAKER_00: So just try as much as possible, let the Holy Spirit flow so that you can understand.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_00: Jesus Christ says something, all have sin and shortcut the glory.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, that's correct.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_00: That means even before we are formed in our womb, right?
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_00: Before we were conceived by our mother, that means that soul is under a judgment, and that is what people don't understand.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: And if you look at the Bible, it says something, it says it's appointed for a man to die once after the judgment appointed for a man to die once, after the judgment.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_00: That means it's appointed for his soul, yeah, so to die once.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: So the death they are talking about is not a spiritual death, and that is where people miss it.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: That means you can't live in this world without bloodline, that means soul and the spirit have to come through body before we can do what we are doing, and there's always an account and capability of all we do.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_00: So now, when the soul is part of the body and the body is dead, we are going to face a judgment.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, so now what Jesus Christ speaks in parable, and because the reason why he speaks most in parable to his disciples, remember during the time of Roman Empire, that is when Jesus Christ was born to the world, and before Jesus Christ was born 2000 years ago, 2700 years ago, prophet Isaiah talk about Jesus Christ.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_00: Unto host a child was born, unto us a child was given, a government shall be under his shoulder.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: That is Isaiah 7 verse 14.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um 14 to 15.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_00: Isaiah explained, and before Jesus Christ, even that's 700 years, and if you should look at 700 years to the time Jesus Christ was born, even mother of Jesus Christ was not yet born, his grandmother was not even yet born, his great grandmother was not yet even born.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: That means in the realm of the spirit or in the spiritual constitutions, that's why I said the mind of God is not the mind of a man, right?
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: Just imagine what will happen 700 years.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: God is revealing to his prophets.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and if you should look at the time of Vaziah, we know the king that was on the throne, maybe King Hear or whatever.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: I there's a king that was on the throne.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, you can help me to check the king that was on the throne, and then we understand that at that moment in time there's what they call uh they call the remnant because the the because of the uh disobedience of the Israelites, mixing temples of God into temples of battles and doing all manner of things, there's always a siege, plague on them.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_00: So through the help of God, he speaks to his prophet, which is Prophet Isaiah, solution to their problem.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: And when you look at chapter 7, verse 32, when because he talks about honey and butter, the same honey and butter that was meant to give to that child, that means 700 years 2700 years ago, what Jesus Christ will hit when he was born was even proclaimed.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe can you do you have a Bible there?
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: Are you with are you are you with your Bible?
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_01: I have a Bible, yes.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_01: I have lots of Bibles.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: Can you please open Isaiah chapter 7?
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so one minute second.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: I could find it, just let me know so that I just want us to you know no have a fact file on what we are talking about.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_01: Isaiah seven, you said Isaiah seven, chapter seven, verse fourteen.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_01: Seven verse fourteen.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, please read.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_02: It says, it says Isaiah um seven fourteen says, Therefore the Lord Himself shall give you a sign.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_02: Behold, a virgin shall conceive and bear a son and shall call him, call his name Emmanuel.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_00: Read 215, read 15.
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  SPEAKER_02: Butter and honey shall he eat that he may know to refuse the evil and choose the good.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_02: For before the child shall know to refuse the evil and choose the good, the land that thou abhorest shall be forsaken and both her forsaken of both her kings.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: Then go to verse 32.
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  SPEAKER_02: Pardon me?
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: Read verse 32, verse 22.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_02: Uh 32?
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: 22.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_02: 22, I'm sorry.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_02: Um 22 says, um, Isaiah 72 says, and it shall come to pass for the abundance of milk that they shall give, he shall eat butter.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_02: For butter and honey shall everyone eat that is left in the land.
• 23:45
  unknown: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: So what I'm trying to explain, and what I'm trying to make you to understand, is that the reason why God tell Isaiah this is just because of the disobedience of the Israelites.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_00: But after 2700-700 years, the institution has changed.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of things about God that through the help of the Holy Spirit, you and I know.
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  SPEAKER_00: But during the time of Isaiah, there's a lot of things about God that is not revealed.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_00: So, and there are there's a particular place in the Bible that Jesus Christ is making it very clear to his disciples.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have to go so I can send the Holy Spirit to teach you all truth.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: That means during the time when Jesus Christ was unheard, the people which they claim they know God are religion leaders, and Jesus Christ is having a time and rough time to really teach the truth, yeah, and that's why most often he speaks in parables because there's always a challenges about in turning.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_00: So because of a stronghold, so so so so so the the point of a stronghold that I'm trying to give an explanation as I'm led by the Holy Spirit, is that we call it a stronghold, but it's not a stronghold.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, let me just uh try to speak it in a layman language so that you can understand.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_00: There's a system of judiciary that cannot be broken.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_00: What is a system of judiciary that means we have what they call judges?
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: No, there's a law of the land.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_00: When you break the law of the land and you face court, you either you are guilty or you are not guilty.
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  SPEAKER_00: And once you are guilty, there's always a penalty for it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now as we are living in this world, all the things we are doing is being under a record.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_00: So that means by the time we come out from this body, because this body is not permanent, this body is temporary, this body that is temporary, right?
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: So our soul and the spirit dwell in this body, but as long as once somebody dies, the soul and the spirit comes out from this body and face a judgment.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: So that is the reason why Jesus Christ said, All our sin and short calls the glory.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_00: That means the judgment on this body is what we are encountering.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: That means we don't they don't just that means they don't just send a soul into a family without a judgment.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_00: That means you giving uh you coming into your mother's womb, everything is being programmed in heaven based on a judgment.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_00: That means our soul is holder than what we think of.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_00: So the word A that we are coming to is as a result of judgment, right?
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_00: So that means your bloodline, your father's bloodline, and your mother's bloodline is what carries the body.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: So now what is very important is about our destiny, right?
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_00: The reason why life is different from other people's life.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_00: When Jesus Christ, we have to be born again.
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  SPEAKER_00: That means our bloodline is corrupt.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, we need Jesus Christ, that means we have to be adopted into the bloodline of Jesus Christ, amen.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, so that you can be saved.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_00: How do we adopt to the bloodline of Jesus Christ by accepting Jesus Christ as our personal Lord and Savior?
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_00: So accepting Jesus Christ as our personal Lord and Savior is giving us an access into the sanctuary of God.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_00: Even when Jesus Christ was on heart, they called Jesus Christ a good man, and they said, No, don't call me a good man.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_00: He said, Nobody is a good man except my father in heaven because Jesus Christ knew that it was under the bloodline of King David the murderer.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: But why did Jesus why did God allow Jesus Christ to come to that bloodline so that we can be saved?
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_00: And then, secondly, if you look at what happened in the in the when the time of crucifixion was to take place, something happened.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_00: He saw the crucification and is trying to dodge it, but he said, not my will, because if this thing can pass me by, but he remembered that his purpose of coming to this world is to fulfill so that you and I can be saved, so that our purpose in this world is already programmed, the life we are going to live, the tribulation, but when we adopt into the system of our Lord Jesus Christ, we break that yoke, so the bloodline, whatever anything, the stronghold is not having effect on us again through the adoption of Jesus Christ, we are covered and we are saved.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_00: So the more we get close to God, the more the truth will be revealed to us, and the more the truth is revealed to us, the more we understand the nature of God, and the more we understand the nature of God, the more we'll be saved.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yeah, yeah, yes.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_00: I I I hope you understand my yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know that to be present with with you know the Lord is to be absent from the body and absent from the mind.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_02: You know, we have our spirit and our soul, and and we have the Holy Spirit.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_02: And um, you know, on Judgment Day, I wanted to touch back touch face back on that real quick before we um need to start wrapping up.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_02: But on Judgment Day, I think that um God is so merciful and God loves us so much.
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  SPEAKER_02: He has He has He has more love for us than we can even fathom.
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  SPEAKER_02: And um that's why repentance is so important Um in our walk uh um as we become Christians and we know you know what Jesus Christ did for us and we need to repent for our sins.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_02: So that way when we face that judgment, um, I I honestly feel that when we face judgment on judgment day, we are going to answer for the things that we have not repented for.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_02: The things that we did repent for, it says he remembers it no more in Jeremiah.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I think it's Jeremiah uh 31, I believe, or 30.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_02: And and but it also says in Jeremiah that we are to know God.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_02: And I think a lot of times we we miss the vote on that because how many, um, I mean, not not you, but I I think that we we don't spend time trying to actually know who God is and what he's doing and what his what his plan and his purpose is.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_02: And um, even when we think we got it all figured out, I know that we're we're not gonna have it all figured out.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_02: We will know when we get to be with God what you know what he had planned for us.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_02: But the eternal part of it, spending our life with God at the end, um, we we have to answer for some of the mistakes that we've made if we have not asked for forgiveness.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_02: We have to be in repentance.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_02: But repentance, I believe, it has to be honest repentance.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_02: I can't just say, oh, I'm sorry and not mean it.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I mean, you know, we have to be really heartfully um, you know, sorry for for when we make mistakes, and then we have to try not to continue to walk in that, like you said, in the obedience to God.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_02: And I know that a lot of people stumble.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_02: So, what advice can you give to our listeners as we go into closing?
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um, for for for those that listen that know that they love God, they love Jesus, they want to spend eternity with Him, but they have such a really hard time walking in the obedience.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_02: Can you shed some light on that?
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, God knows our heart, God knows our struggle, yeah, God knows what we are facing, right?
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_00: As long as in our hearts we are striving, struggling, God is going to say a comforter of the spirit because there's one thing people should understand when you are under captivity, if you are under bondage, captivity comes in different ways.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_00: Uh addiction is a captivity when you are struggling to get out of something and you know how to get out of it.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_00: God understand, and that's when God will come in through the help of servant of God.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes that strong goal that we are talking about might be more like a bondage that you need a libration to pull you out.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_00: That means there must be, for example, now if you look at the man using stone to tear himself, man of the of the of of uh just um the man that was using stone to tear himself.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: Do you remember the man that had the legion spirits?
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_02: The man that said that one more time.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_00: The man that did what using stone to cut himself, okay.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_00: The Bible, okay, that have a legion spirit.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_00: The man cannot help himself, yeah.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_00: That they must first of all cast out the demons out of his body, it's when they cast out the demons out of his body that is when he's free.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so many people today that deep back in their heart, they really, really, really want to serve God, but something is too powerful for them.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_00: That means that is a stronghold that we are talking about through the help of Holy Spirit, through the help of the servant of God, that stronghold can live because stronghold is part of the destiny through the help of the obedience.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_00: For example, if you look at Elijah and the man with leprosy, yeah, Bible, the leprosy in that man's body is his stronghold.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, so Elijah has to do some spiritual work, spiritual assignments before that leprosy can you know come out of his body.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_00: So, and that is exactly what I'm trying to explain to you the difference between the sheep and the shepherd.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_00: Obedience.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_00: So the point um as I'm as I'm talking to you now, you must have a role that God has called you into a sanctuary to do.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_00: Your role might be completely healing.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_00: So those that have been praying to God for healing, God has a way of connecting you to them.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_00: People prayed, God answered, and when their prayer is answered, God has a mystery way of connecting the final solutions.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_00: So the point is when you are obedient to God, leave the rest for God.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: You have faith in God, you are obedient, and you follow the structure of Jesus Christ as He was given to us, and with your faith, believe me, God is going to do it, and how God is going to do it is left to God.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I'm using this medium to tell all the people listening to us, yeah.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: Faith, trust in God, do not be weary.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_00: Your miracle is on the way.
• 37:30
  unknown: Yeah.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_02: Or we shall faint.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_02: So we shall not faint not.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_02: Do not be weak, so we do not faint not.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I I think it's it's important that um we we walk in um you know as much obedience as we can, but I know that we also fall short because the Bible says we're going to.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_02: The Bible says we all have to come come you know short of the glory of God.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_02: So I do believe that we all we all do fall short.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_02: But um I also know that when we think when I think about strongholds and I think about our thoughts and capturing our thoughts and taking everything to the knowledge of God, it it's it's it seems like uh when I started studying that scripture specifically in 2 Corinthians, and I'm thinking, how do you take your thoughts and capture them and then run them over to God and be like, God, I gotta give you my thoughts because I need I need to make sure they line up with your word.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_02: And um, you know, as we struggle in life, it's it's sometimes you know, I would forget to do that.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_02: I would forget to take my thoughts captive and be like, I need to take them to God and and to to account on God, be like, okay, God, I'm you know, I want to take it to his knowledge and see if it lines up to the word.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_02: And um, I would find myself, you know, falling short, you know, of that.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um, because I was allowing my thoughts, what I was doing was allowing my thoughts to be the captain over me instead of allowing God to be the captain over my life.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_02: Does that make sense, kinda?
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_02: I was allowing my thoughts to rule me.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_00: I do understand what you are saying.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh, it is not a flaw when all these things happen.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_00: It is not a flaw, it's not maybe you are weak, it's just the nature of a human being, right?
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_00: And God understands, and that's the reason why it said if we have a faith like a mustard seed, yeah, we command a mountain to move, and it can move.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_00: If you remember, all this thing is part of the journey of spiritual journey, and Jesus Christ understands.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_00: Remember when Jesus Christ and the disciples they are on a journey, and disciples and Jesus Christ was on a boat, and there was a storm, it's acting as if it's sleeping in the boat, yeah, it's not sleeping, and the disciples they were wary, they were so afraid, yeah, and they thought they're gonna die, but Jesus Christ is with them sometimes.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_00: Don't be wary when that thought comes.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes God wants to strengthen you so that you can trust more in Him.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_00: Amen.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, sometimes your faith sometimes might be shaken.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_00: It happens to me, it can happen to anybody, right?
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_00: Right, it's just for you, it's a way of building our faith.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_00: So when you are going through that process, don't feel maybe you don't trust God enough.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's part of fleshy uh struggle.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_00: Just pray at that moment in time, and Father, come and just come and take let your will be done in my life.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_00: Every spirit of fear, every spirit of doubt, take it out of my heart.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_00: I know I can't do it by myself alone, but I know with you all things are possible, and believe me or not, once you start doing that prayer, that's strong we can.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's strong we can.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_00: So it is a normal thing that can happen to anybody, and when it happened that way, all we need to do is to talk to God about it.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_00: This is my struggle.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_00: Come and help me, and believe me or not, he heard you, he will come, and the storm will be quiet.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_02: Amen.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much for sharing that, and um, thank you for coming on here and um sharing with our listeners.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, and I I love to talk that I love to talk about Jesus and and and the word and and all of that, and I love what you're doing.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_02: And I do have one really quick question, real quick, to ask you before we close.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um, what are your thoughts on um once saved, always saved, or can you lose your salvation?
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_02: Do you believe that people can actually lose their salvation after they've accepted Jesus Christ?
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_00: This is a very uh complicated question.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, it is.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_00: Our faith and our is in our hand.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_00: If you look at Peter and Judas, Jesus Christ knew Peter is going to be betrayed.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_00: Jesus Christ is praying for Peter that when this thing comes, you can repent and come back to me.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_00: But Judas did not want a repentance.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_00: If you know when Jesus Christ was when your heart in Jesus Christ, how many times can you forgive your enemy?
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_00: It's uncountable times.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_00: So if you have the heart of forgiving people, so definitely what you do will come back to you.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_00: If you have the heart of forgiving your enemy, if it is your uh your your your your channel to always forgive, so definitely you will always be in a cycle of Jesus Christ.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_00: And there's one thing that people don't know, and I have to share it with you, and it's going to I know it's going to blow your mind.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_00: When John baptized when John baptized Jesus Christ, something happened, a cloud opened, and this is my begotten son that he was pleased with that they should listen to him.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_00: That's mountain number two on the mountain when Jesus Christ took all his disciples three people the Moses, Jesus Christ in the middle, and Elijah.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: And they were as white as a snow.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_00: The same cloud opened.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_00: And the same voice was talking about the three people.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_00: And when then suddenly they saw Jesus Christ.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_00: If you go back to Revelation, they talk about two witnesses that were a cyclops.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_00: That on that day two witnesses, the power of two witnesses, they will come to do wonders.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_00: And we don't even understand that error has come.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_00: So we are error of that two witnesses they are talking about.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_00: That means a spirit of Elijah and Moses will descend on prophets and prophetess, on servant of God, that they will do exactly all the things of the hold.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_00: And it's happening now.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_00: Last but not the least that I have to share with you Jesus Christ is going to come like a thief.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_00: He promised 2000 years ago he's going to come.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_00: And Jesus Christ has come.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_00: But he comes in the spirit.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_00: If once you accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior, whatever anything that you are going through, Jesus Christ is going to visit you like a thief in the night.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_00: He either he visits you to come and save you, or he visits somebody to come and expose the secrecy.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_00: If you know what is going on in the world today, it's just what Jesus Christ promised us that is going to come like a thief in the night.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm using this medium to tell everyone listening.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_00: That tomorrow might be too late.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_00: Repent because the hour has come.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like a thing.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_00: So today, believe me or not, when you see many exposures on the internet, on radio, on TV, it's just for us to understand that it's here already to expose the secrecy.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_00: So the truth is did you accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior in truth?
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yes or no?
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's a personal decision.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_00: And who is struggling with it?
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_00: And that is why we are servant of God to pray for people.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_00: The same way Jesus Christ prayed for Peter to strengthen his faith.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_00: We are the servant of God.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_00: We are in stewardship to pray for people to strengthen them so that if they fall, they can always rise.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_02: And then one was Moses.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_02: I know one was Moses, and the other was Elias.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_00: What's it?
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_00: Elijah.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_02: Elijah, okay.
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I said Elijah.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know why I said Isaiah.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_02: I got it twisted, but that's what that's what I thought, Elijah.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um, some people believe that it's Enoch for some reason, but I agree with you.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's Moses and and Elijah.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_02: So, but with that being said, um, as we go into closing, I just wanted to say thank you for um sharing everything that you shared.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_02: And um, I just wanted to give our listeners um some feedback on the um I I've had people ask me a few times, you know, once saved, always saved, or can we lose salvation?
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_02: So um I do want to share with you that I will be putting your information, your website, and all of that in the show notes so people can reach out to you and get a hold of you.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_02: Is there anything you want to say to our listeners in closing tonight?
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_00: Well, my name is Prophet Afalabia Droja, and I'm using this medium to tell all our viewers all over the world that God loves them and not be afraid.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_00: All they need to do is to give their life to Christ by accepting Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior, and then God will do the rest.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_00: They should not be afraid.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_00: God knows their struggle, God knows their mind, God sees everything, he's our father, he's our father, he's our counselor, he's our guidance, he's our Messiah, he's our protector, and he's promising us, he's assuring us that with him we are saved because he said it's the way, the truth and life.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody comes to Father except through him.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm using this medium, you are on the right path, you know, for accepting Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and save you.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_00: He will not leave you, will not forsake you, and he will always guide you.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_00: Amen.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you for that.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_02: I appreciate that so much.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_02: And again, thank you for your time and um appreciate you coming on a meeting with you meeting with me.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_02: And I've loved all of your input and everything you've shared today.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_02: And um, I will uh put all of your information in our show notes for our listeners as well as um your website so they can reach out to you.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_02: Do you want to tell um our listeners about your website and what it's what it's about, real quick, and then we'll close with that.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_00: You can go to Windows Chain Ministry, you know, for counseling, and then you know, whatever Holy Spirit revealed to us, we can be able to share, we pray with you, and then the spirit of healing and a lot of um deliverance is taking place there too.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_00: So we are inviting you to go to our webs, Window of Chain Ministry, and with the help of my PA who's going to make mail you to give you full details about how it goes.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I can do.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, well, well, thank you again for um meeting with us and to all of the listeners that are watching today.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_02: Please make sure you like, share, and follow.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_02: And um, don't be afraid to share this information with anybody that um I think we all need Jesus, so let's just share it abroad.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_02: And uh the scripture says to go out and you know share the gospels, and that's what correction strongholds is about.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_02: That's what I like to do.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_02: I love to talk about Jesus and um I like to share his word.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_02: And I especially like bringing on guests um such as yourself that that love to talk about Jesus as well.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_02: So I just want to say thank you for that.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_02: And um, I've really enjoyed our conversation.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_02: And um, with that being said, I just want to say goodbye to all of our listeners and thank you, everyone, for being here today.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_02: And um, God bless.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_02: And if you need prayer, don't forget to message me at crushingstrongholts.com and I'll be happy to pray for you for anything you need prayer for.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_02: So y'all take care and thank you and God bless you.
• 51:48
  unknown: Thanks.