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Rockets and Slowing Down Aging · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM640, the Bill Handel Show on
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  Speaker 2: President Xi Jinping of China is in the White House
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  Speaker 2: as you know, I'm a big fan of traveling. My
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  Speaker 2: disposable income, I live way under my means, as I've
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  Speaker 2: talked about. And so I take my disposable income and
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  Speaker 2: I travel. And it's great fun. As a matter of fact,
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  Speaker 2: I'm leaving today for a trip. And so everybody's doing
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm 100 years older than she is. There
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  Speaker 3: Have you guys recorded anything yet?
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  Speaker 2: We just recorded an intro. Okay. And we have a
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  Speaker 2: website already. And we are also going to record on
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  Speaker 2: our trip. We picked up the microphones and we're just
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  Speaker 2: going to go crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Excessivebaggage.com.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, excessivebaggage.com. Okay, talking about traveling, this is serious traveling.
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  Speaker 2: There is a rocket supply crunch, and there aren't enough
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  Speaker 2: rockets out there that people can buy trips on. We're
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  Speaker 2: talking about major companies and countries, of course. Although individuals
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  Speaker 2: can buy, but that's not moving very quickly. And one
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  Speaker 2: of the big reasons is SpaceX. SpaceX is a very
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  Speaker 2: interesting company, Elon Musk. It used to be that rocket trips-
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  Speaker 2: spaceflight were the only, in the United States, it was
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  Speaker 2: only done by NASA, of course. And those flights were
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  Speaker 2: insanely expensive. NASA's philosophy is that you do double redundancy. Literally,
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  Speaker 2: you have a backup and then you have a backup
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  Speaker 2: to the backup of every system. And Elon Musk said,
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  Speaker 2: that's way too expensive. There's another way of doing it.
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  Speaker 2: The guy's a visionary. And he is, he came up
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  Speaker 2: with the idea.
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  Speaker 1: You know what?
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  Speaker 2: I talked to a SpaceX engineer a few years ago,
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  Speaker 2: and he described the philosophy of Elon Musk in terms
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  Speaker 2: of space travel. He said, you know what? Our ships,
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  Speaker 2: our spacecraft, are basically buses. That's what we are. We're buses.
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  Speaker 2: We fly up there on one kind of engine. Bigger
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  Speaker 2: the rocket, the more engines we put up there. We
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  Speaker 2: don't have all kinds of these redundancy systems because our
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  Speaker 2: technology today across the board doesn't make it necessary. We
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  Speaker 2: go up, we drop off, we pick up, and then
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  Speaker 2: we come back and we reuse as much as possible.
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  Speaker 2: where the NASA vehicles, everything was thrown away. And as
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  Speaker 2: he described it, it's like taking a 747, like taking
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  Speaker 2: an airplane from LA to New York. And then when
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  Speaker 2: you hit New York, you throw it all away and
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  Speaker 2: you have to buy another one for the next trip.
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  Speaker 2: And he said, that's ridiculous. So he created... the reusable rocket,
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  Speaker 2: way ahead of his time. Now there are a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of companies that are following along and just basically playing
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  Speaker 2: catch up. So it was SpaceX that started all of this.
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  Speaker 2: And let me tell you what's going on. I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to continue this on because there's a reason there aren't
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  Speaker 2: enough rockets out there. There just ain't enough for the
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  Speaker 2: number of companies and governments that want to throw satellites
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  Speaker 2: and spacecraft and manned spacecraft up in space. And I'll
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  Speaker 2: finish that up when we come back.
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  Speaker 4: You're listening to Bill Handel On Demand from KFI AM640.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, back we go. The story of the, well, a fact,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to jump on a spaceship, SpaceX or
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  Speaker 2: any other flight going up, you're not going to do it.
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  Speaker 2: There's just no room. And the reason why there is
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  Speaker 2: no room, it's basically SpaceX, because the Falcon 9, the
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  Speaker 2: world's busiest rocket by a long shot, well, it's being
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  Speaker 2: wound down. SpaceX is winding down the Falcon 9, and
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  Speaker 2: it's focusing on its new Starship vehicle, far, far bigger.
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  Speaker 2: And so SpaceX has stopped selling missions. where several companies
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  Speaker 2: actually share space on a Falcon 9. That's sort of
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  Speaker 2: the model. And you have companies that have not been
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  Speaker 2: able to secure flights after 2028. And usually you book
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  Speaker 2: these flights years in advance. And so this phase-out is
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  Speaker 2: occurring when launch demand is rising. And we're looking at
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  Speaker 2: or they're looking at supply outstripping or the supply is
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  Speaker 2: going to be much less than the demand. Robert Perez, Alamany,
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  Speaker 2: works on space issues for the Pentagon, said we have
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  Speaker 2: thousands of satellites slated to launch by 2030. Thousands of satellites.
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  Speaker 2: And so you got governments and companies are very hungry
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  Speaker 2: to deploy satellites because that is obviously a huge industry.
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  Speaker 2: And even though there are a number of them already
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  Speaker 2: in orbit, there are going to be thousands more. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how they don't hit each other. You know
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  Speaker 2: how much space junk is out there. Investors have been
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  Speaker 2: pouring billions of dollars, not into SpaceX, but into companies
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  Speaker 2: that are going to compete with SpaceX. Satellites are being developed,
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  Speaker 2: national security missions, projects like the president's Golden Dome missile
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  Speaker 2: shield that will have his picture on the rocket, as
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  Speaker 2: we know. That was for Amy, by the way. Companies
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  Speaker 2: need room on these rockets to photograph Earth, to bring
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  Speaker 2: that technology up, to ferry cargo, not only to the ISS,
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  Speaker 2: but to the moon. That's going on. Internet connections, for example, Starlink.
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  Speaker 2: I just bought a Starlink satellite. because I want to
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  Speaker 2: start broadcasting outside of the studio, outside of the studio
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  Speaker 2: in my house, outside of the studio at Burbank. And
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  Speaker 2: how do you do that? Well, you bring a Starlink
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  Speaker 2: satellite up there and you can broadcast from anywhere. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: technology is there, but that takes satellites to do that.
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  Speaker 2: And there are lots and lots of satellites up there.
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  Speaker 2: So I, Interesting, interesting story about Falcon 9. Made its
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  Speaker 2: debut in 2010. Now, if you remember the story of
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  Speaker 2: Elon Musk deciding to start his own space manufacturing facility
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  Speaker 2: or his own rocket, there were a couple of failures,
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  Speaker 2: if you remember. And he ran out of money. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he cobbled together the last little bits of money he had.
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  Speaker 2: And he was looking at— boy, you talk about someone who
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  Speaker 2: rolls the dice on this one— If he had a
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  Speaker 2: successful launch, he would have gotten a, and did get,
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  Speaker 2: several billion dollar contract with NASA, who also wanted a
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  Speaker 2: cheaper way of bringing satellites up. And he made it.
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  Speaker 2: He made it with his last flight. I think there
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  Speaker 2: were three or four and they had blown up. And
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  Speaker 2: he was very interesting when he said that. Failures are
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  Speaker 2: not failures. Failures and when developing spacecraft is an opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to learn how to do it right, which is... Very interesting.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's what this guy is about.
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  Speaker 3: That's kind of what Edison said, that he learned how
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  Speaker 3: not to make a light bulb a hundred times before
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  Speaker 3: he suffered that. That's right.
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  Speaker 2: Thousands of times.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: And so if you look at, here's a philosophy. The
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  Speaker 2: growth of a space company is really driven when you
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  Speaker 2: get that first hardware into orbit. That's what it's about.
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  Speaker 2: First on the market. Now, Starship. This is where SpaceX's
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  Speaker 2: future hinges. It can offer new options for space companies,
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  Speaker 2: of course, bring up much bigger payloads. And industry executives
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  Speaker 2: are waiting. They're learning, okay, when is the vehicle going
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  Speaker 2: to be ready? How much will launches cost? How many
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  Speaker 2: technical hurdles will be addressed? Because one of the things
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  Speaker 2: about Starship or one of the things about SpaceX is
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  Speaker 2: If it's able to launch a spacecraft at a fraction
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  Speaker 2: of the cost that it has cost NASA. NASA is
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  Speaker 2: a one-off. That's when they build these ridiculously expensive starships
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  Speaker 2: or spacecraft. And their satellites cost a fortune. I mean
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  Speaker 2: a fortune. remember viking that went to mars uh and
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  Speaker 2: then they were done that viking uh what was that
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  Speaker 2: a robot it really was that viking robot that was
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  Speaker 2: launched and set uh set up in mars and Got
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  Speaker 2: the first pictures of Mars. You remember that? That was
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  Speaker 2: years ago. That was $ 2 billion back then. Today, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how many billions it would be. Well, they
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  Speaker 2: don't do that anymore. It's too expensive. And technology is
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  Speaker 2: way too advanced to have to do that. And that's
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  Speaker 2: all because of Elon Musk. So SpaceX is going to
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  Speaker 2: sunset the Falcon 9, even though there are tons of
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  Speaker 2: companies willing to keep on using Falcon 9. But here is...
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  Speaker 2: Elon Musk, Mr. Visionary, who says, those days are over.
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  Speaker 2: The future are these giant rockets because we'll be able
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  Speaker 2: to do much more. And so you've got several rocket
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  Speaker 2: companies with rockets are slated to debut and they're going
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  Speaker 2: to ramp up. There's actually going to be some real
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  Speaker 2: competition there. It's kind of neat what's going on. All right. Let's, oh, oh,
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  Speaker 2: this is a fun one. You know, I tell you
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  Speaker 2: and talk about how crazy people are about their dogs,
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  Speaker 2: that they'd much rather have family members die before their dogs.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly that's the case in my family. Not even a choice.
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  Speaker 2: Never ask my wife, who would you rather have die?
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  Speaker 2: It's the It's not even close. Well, let me tell you,
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  Speaker 2: there's another there's another way that people are going nuts.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll bet you you haven't thought about this. I'll
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  Speaker 2: bet you I'll bet you we'll be back.
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  Speaker 4: You're listening to Bill Handel on demand from KFI AM 640.
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  Speaker 2: Big stories we're covering. President Xi is with President Trump
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  Speaker 2: right now at the White House. An extraordinary welcome for
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  Speaker 2: President Xi Jinping that Donald Trump produced for him.
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  Speaker 3: And did you see the biggest news that's come out
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  Speaker 3: so far?
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  Speaker 2: Which is?
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  Speaker 3: She's going to give those two pandas to the Atlanta Zoo.
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  Speaker 2: No, he's going to loan the two. He hangs on
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  Speaker 2: to it. They lease those pandas.
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  Speaker 3: I know, but they're coming in the next few days.
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  Speaker 3: They'll be in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: I love that.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. Remember the first ones that went to the Washington Zoo,
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  Speaker 2: Ying and Yang or Ping and Ying or whatever the
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  Speaker 2: hell their names were? And it was people line up
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  Speaker 2: for hours and hours. Pandas are stupid, but they are adorable.
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  Speaker 2: They are completely adorable. Now, if you ever go to Beijing,
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  Speaker 2: they have a panda retreat. You go to the zoo
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  Speaker 2: and you're waiting three hours to see pandas sort of
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  Speaker 2: in the background. You go to the Beijing Panda Center
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  Speaker 2: and you look down and it's hot and cold running pandas.
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  Speaker 2: There are more pandas there than you know what to
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  Speaker 2: deal with.
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  Speaker 3: They're hilarious. Have you ever watched them falling out of structures?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they are.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they look so cute and they'll eat you
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  Speaker 2: up and claw you to death in a second.
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  Speaker 3: Are they mean?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not pleasant from what I understand. They're really not.
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  Speaker 3: You can watch them at the San Diego Zoo.
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  Speaker 2: They have the panda camp. It's really cute. Oh, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: Let's watch them on TV. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, if you can't go and wait.
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  Speaker 2: I understand. Yeah, I know I get that. But people
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  Speaker 2: go for hours to get a bad view. All right.
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  Speaker 2: Now I want to move over to the story I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to do. And this is about, well, man's best friend,
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  Speaker 2: maybe yours. So researchers are investigating biological markers and tests. Why? Why?
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  Speaker 2: Because it's all about detecting age issues, aging issues, and
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  Speaker 2: predicting health risks in dogs. So this is about you
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  Speaker 2: getting your dog to live longer. And they are spending big,
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  Speaker 2: big money on getting that mutt of yours, that scraggy
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  Speaker 2: mutt of yours, to live a few years longer. So
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  Speaker 2: the first signs that a dog is going into senior years, well,
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  Speaker 2: we've all had them who have dogs. The graying muzzle.
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  Speaker 2: cloudier eye, slower gait. Dogs, well, the walks get shorter.
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  Speaker 2: You go to the vet more. Dogs spend more time
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  Speaker 2: napping than chasing the ball. And now... Scientists are saying
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  Speaker 2: we can slow that down. We can detect that earlier.
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  Speaker 2: We can make interventions to keep your dog. Boy, was
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  Speaker 2: that a sneeze to keep your dog alive longer. So
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  Speaker 2: for those of you that would spend unlimited amounts of
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  Speaker 2: money on a dog, this is good news. because dogs,
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  Speaker 2: when they get old, are not a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 2: So over the past decade, researchers have been focused on
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  Speaker 2: finding indicators, offering clues. How well will an individual dog age?
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  Speaker 2: How long will that dog live? There's nothing like a
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  Speaker 2: dog that's old as hell that has no idea where
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  Speaker 2: it is. Oh, the other thing, dogs have dementia. Did
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  Speaker 2: you know that?
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  Speaker 3: Mine did.
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  Speaker 2: Dogs have dementia. I had a dog that had serious dementia.
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  Speaker 2: She was a little puffball that I had. You know,
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  Speaker 2: she looked like homosexuals wear those white slippers, you know,
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  Speaker 2: those puffy little slippers. What? Yeah, that's a gay man's
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  Speaker 2: slipper is what they do, that white puffy things. And
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  Speaker 2: that's what my dog looked like. Anyway, she was getting
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  Speaker 2: pretty old.
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  Speaker 3: How do you know if they have dementia? Do they
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  Speaker 3: start meowing?
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  Speaker 2: No, they just, they don't recognize you. They're walking much slower.
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  Speaker 2: They don't recognize things around them. My dog, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I only tell the story about my dog with dementia
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  Speaker 2: when we come back, because this is really interesting scientific stuff.
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  Speaker 2: how research, how science is now looking at dog aging. Boy,
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  Speaker 2: that's so important, but I want to come back and
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  Speaker 2: finish that up and tell you the story about my dog,
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  Speaker 2: my aging dementia ridden, is that fair enough? Dementia suffering dog.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be right back.
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  Speaker 4: You're listening to Bill Handel on demand from KFI AM 640.
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  Speaker 2: A couple of big stories we're following. First of all,
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  Speaker 2: President Xi of China is at the White House right
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  Speaker 2: now meeting with President Trump. And they're going on for
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  Speaker 2: over a whole bunch of issues. Taiwan, AI, the war
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  Speaker 2: in Iran. just a lot of the trade between U.S.
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  Speaker 2: and China. Also, yesterday, a judge held that the ban,
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  Speaker 2: federal judge held that the ban on CNN and Politico
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  Speaker 2: and MSNOW that the White House placed on those news
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  Speaker 2: items or news outlets, they could not be at the
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  Speaker 2: White House anymore. And so they sued and a judge said, nope,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they're reinstated. Well, the Trump administration turned around
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  Speaker 2: and said, basically, too bad. Pound sand. And they're still
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  Speaker 2: being denied. So the judge said, you have until 1230
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  Speaker 2: today in this Department of Justice to tell me why
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  Speaker 2: you are denying access. So that's a big story, too.
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  Speaker 2: So I want to go back and finish up the
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  Speaker 2: story about science and the way to stop dogs aging. Now,
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  Speaker 2: there's plenty of science that goes with people, but there
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  Speaker 2: is a huge movement. I had no idea that you've
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  Speaker 2: got scientists and labs and there's a new drug that's
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  Speaker 2: just come out to slow down the aging process amongst dogs.
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  Speaker 2: And so there's an area of focus looking at blood
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  Speaker 2: test results. to deduce a dog's biological age and came
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  Speaker 2: out of a lab. And the lab originally was in Koreatown,
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  Speaker 2: but that didn't work out for obvious reasons. And so
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  Speaker 2: they moved the lab to, I don't know where they moved,
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  Speaker 2: another part of town. Anyway, the researchers are recruiting dogs
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  Speaker 2: from the Dog Aging Project. involving scientists and research veterinarians
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  Speaker 2: from over 20 different institutions. And I was going to
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  Speaker 2: tell you about my dog and aging because Amy shared
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  Speaker 2: her story about her dog that had dementia. And was aging.
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  Speaker 2: My dog, I had a little one, a little white puffball,
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  Speaker 2: and was aging, could tell. And a lot of her
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  Speaker 2: problems were, I don't know if I've shared their story before,
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  Speaker 2: she was the dumbest dog on the planet. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: she was incredibly stupid. I couldn't quite get her house
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  Speaker 2: trained because she couldn't tell the difference between outside and inside.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, she was that stupid. Even to the point
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  Speaker 2: where she got into a car accident, a car hit her,
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  Speaker 2: and she flew 20 feet. We took her to the vet,
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  Speaker 2: and the vet said she's going to survive, but she
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  Speaker 2: has some pretty serious trauma, head trauma. Well, we took
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  Speaker 2: her home and you couldn't tell the difference before and
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  Speaker 2: after the accident. That's how stupid she was. It was
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  Speaker 2: the same. So this program of aging and researchers, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: are going crazy. Well, how much research they do in
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  Speaker 2: the dog food? You know, dog food is a zillion
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  Speaker 2: dollar economy onto its own. So now there are drugs,
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  Speaker 2: a drug that's just been developed to stop or slow
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  Speaker 2: down the aging of a dog. And they have dementia,
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  Speaker 2: which I didn't know about. Dogs have dementia. And so
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  Speaker 2: the Canine Health Foundation recommends that owners do things like
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  Speaker 2: consistent routines, nighttime potty breaks. Yeah, mine does on the
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  Speaker 2: edge of the bed. Block unsafe areas. They tend to
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  Speaker 2: sniff more dogs because they don't get the recognition or
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  Speaker 2: the introduction of a dog sniffing each other's butts. As
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  Speaker 2: you know, dogs do that. Matter of fact, that's how
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  Speaker 2: I met Lindsay. I was at an event and And
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden I felt something weird behind me.
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  Speaker 2: And I looked down and go, there's Lindsay trying to
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  Speaker 2: say hello. Neil, you're shaking your head.
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  Speaker 3: It's so gross on so many levels.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you for that. Okay.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: No, thank you.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I think we are done. And tomorrow, Neil starts filling
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: in for me. He becomes host of the show because
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: I'm leaving for a vacation. And I'm also creating a
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: podcast with Linz, a travel podcast, which is just as
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: much fun and crazy as she's as nuts as I am.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: So you can go to Instagram. It's at Excessive Baggage Podcast.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: That's the name of it, Excessive Baggage. Excessive Baggage Podcast.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: The website is excessivebaggage.com. And we're going to podcast and
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: we're just coming up with the crazy stuff that whether
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: she is way in the background, screaming and laughing. OK,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: that's it, guys. We are done. Gary and Shannon are
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: up next. Coming up tomorrow, it'll be Neil with the
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: rest of the crowd. Neil comes aboard at six o'clock.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Amy and Will are here starting at five. Clay is
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: here filling in for Kono, who's on jury duty tomorrow.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Ann is always here. And what else? That's it. I'm done. So, Bill,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: have a good vacation. Well, thank you, Bill. I will. Bye, Bill.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Enjoy yourself, bub. Bye, Bill.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Have a great time.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'll check in.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Say hi to the Garaffes for me.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I will. I absolutely will. Okay, guys. I'll catch you
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: in a little while. A couple of weeks. I'm back.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: All right. This is KFI AM640.
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• 21:52
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