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Game, Set, Matt · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with IR Radio. Hello, guys, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Matt's premiere episode. Wow. Um, pretty standard first episode. UM.
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  Speaker 1: Loved the way Matt just naturally fit into the role.
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  Speaker 1: But we're gonna recap that in a little bit. First,
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  Speaker 1: we just wanted to say a quick hello to the
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  Speaker 1: one and only Benjamin Higgins. Hello, what's up? Ash Well?
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  Speaker 1: This is an episode to remember. It's gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: great season. We'll have two great seasons back to back.
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  Speaker 1: How lucky are we, Ashley. Today we have a huge
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  Speaker 1: podcast in front of us. We're gonna break down the
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  Speaker 1: episode with Blake Hortzman. Um. I don't know if you've
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  Speaker 1: been watching on Instagram, but he loves breaking down these episodes.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be great at it today with us.
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  Speaker 1: And the one thing you get with Blake because he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't hold back, and so I think I think we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have an interesting, uh breakdown today. I'm pumped for it.
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  Speaker 1: We'll give our means on that a little bit. But
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  Speaker 1: actually we do want to tell everybody out there listening
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  Speaker 1: and just you know, just really, Hey, what's up? I'm
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  Speaker 1: almost famous? Almost aren't we all just almost famous? There's
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  Speaker 1: in your hometown. Uh, and it's incredible. It rings true
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  Speaker 1: to worse Ondiana, right, Like you know, everybody there, everybody
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  Speaker 1: dot com slash almost Famous, Ashley before we take a
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  Speaker 1: break here and bring Blake on. I just had a
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  Speaker 1: really emotional moment in my life. You want to hear it?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Yes. So I'm a fan of the
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  Speaker 1: Dan Lebotard Show. I don't know if if if Jared watches,
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  Speaker 1: or if you watch this this is it's a really
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  Speaker 1: interesting show. Uh. Dan Lebotard's on ESPN, which is obviously
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  Speaker 1: owned by Disney, and he's been on for ten years.
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  Speaker 1: And the cool thing about Dan Lebotard is he his dad,
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  Speaker 1: Um immigrated from Cuba and is able to be on
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  Speaker 1: the show with him. His dad is an amazing character.
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  Speaker 1: They named Poppy Well. Uh. ESPN and Dan are parting
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  Speaker 1: ways after today. Uh. So they did a really cool,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, send off where they kind of back
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  Speaker 1: you know, showed all the episodes in the past and
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  Speaker 1: good memories for all of us who have tuned in
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  Speaker 1: and watched it and got in our sports knowledge and
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  Speaker 1: pop culture knowledge from the show. But guess what the
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  Speaker 1: very last thing Dan Lebotard had to do, like very
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  Speaker 1: last thing before he went talk about who his favorite
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  Speaker 1: lead on The Bachelor was. No, no, no no, he had
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  Speaker 1: it close. He had to announce that The Bachelor is
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  Speaker 1: airing on ABC tonight and he was so frustrated. He
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  Speaker 1: even says he's like, this is ridiculous. The day before
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  Speaker 1: I leave a ten year tenure, I have to talk
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  Speaker 1: about the Bachelor. Well, hey, we're here to talk about
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  Speaker 1: the Bachelor. We're gonna keep talking about the Bachelor. If
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  Speaker 1: we didn't talk about the Bachelor, that would be weird.
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  Speaker 1: So we're gonna take a break. When we come back,
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  Speaker 1: we're a Blake Hortsman on breaking down this week's premiere
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  Speaker 1: episode of Matt James season has promised our next guest
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  Speaker 1: is somebody who is familiar with breaking down the episodes.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, he does it every week on the Behind
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  Speaker 1: the Rose podcast. You can listen to that wherever you
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  Speaker 1: listen to podcast. He also doesn't on his Instagram. He
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  Speaker 1: was born and raised in a small town of Bailey, Colorado, Colorado.
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  Speaker 1: Blake Hortsman joins us right now. You would know him
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  Speaker 1: from season fourteen of The Bachelorette, and at that point
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  Speaker 1: he fell for Becca Koufrin. We're going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: that in here in just a bit, but until then, Blake,
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  Speaker 1: how you doing well? Man? Thanks for having guys appreciate it. Hey, Blake, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we want to we want to recap the episode with you,
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  Speaker 1: and then there's a couple of headlines that we'd like
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  Speaker 1: to talk about that you pertain you. So okay, let's
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  Speaker 1: do it. I played all those headlines on you, Ashley.
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  Speaker 1: For the record, I can't. I'm not too innocent in
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  Speaker 1: all this, alright. So top of the episode, very standard, right, um,
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  Speaker 1: except for the fact that that that that that's never
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  Speaker 1: you know, done a season before. But for some reason,
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  Speaker 1: it felt like we've all known him, right, Like I
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  Speaker 1: felt very familiar. Is it just because like we're part
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  Speaker 1: of like the Bachelor family and and it's somewhere or
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  Speaker 1: another maybe we've talked to him, or do you think
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  Speaker 1: that it's because he just is is natural on the camera. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I do think it. Maybe it could be
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  Speaker 1: because we're in vachination and you know, we kind of
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  Speaker 1: see everything and we've seen I've seen every you know,
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  Speaker 1: promotion and all that kind of stuff. But also, I
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  Speaker 1: mean he was, you know, obviously the Quarantine Crew. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like kind of made Matt like in a weird way,
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  Speaker 1: like the Quarantine Crew was his season in a weird
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  Speaker 1: way where I think just the you know, the like
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  Speaker 1: regular fans out there who maybe don't follow social media
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  Speaker 1: as much, those kinds of fans are don't know Matt
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  Speaker 1: like we do, and it's gonna be interesting to see
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  Speaker 1: him kind of developing us like learn, you know. And
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  Speaker 1: I feel like we actually got a lot of him tonight,
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  Speaker 1: which is pretty cool. What do you think of him
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  Speaker 1: as the Bachelor? Um? You know, So, I'll be honest,
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  Speaker 1: I was worried because obviously when you start, whether you
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  Speaker 1: don't you go on the Bachelor. Out of the Bachelor,
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  Speaker 1: you kind of get a taste for like how the
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  Speaker 1: it works, the experience kind of is, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: from Matt, I'm like, oh my god, it's just gonna
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  Speaker 1: be like sink or swim for Matt, you know. But
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  Speaker 1: I think the beginning of the episode that kind of
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  Speaker 1: you know, had that sit down with Matt and Chris
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  Speaker 1: and they were able to ask some questions. So I
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  Speaker 1: think they're they're aware of that, you know, and they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna try and reduce him to the audience. But also,
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  Speaker 1: like I just hope they don't like take advantage of
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  Speaker 1: him not really understanding how the process works, if you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. I was a little worried for him. Okay, well,
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned the quarantine crew, and I just have to
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  Speaker 1: say that I feel like the Math that we see
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  Speaker 1: on TV is like so much more buttoned up and
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  Speaker 1: gentle than the Math that we see in the quarantine crew.
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  Speaker 1: I think that with Tyler he may get a little fratty.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he's with his boys, but like this is
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  Speaker 1: Matt with the ladies, and I love this Matt with
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  Speaker 1: the ladies. Like he's he just seems very approachable, uh
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  Speaker 1: so gentlemanly. This this Matt was is so fantastic. Not
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  Speaker 1: to say that the other Mats fan not fantastic, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, he's very sy and I think I think
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  Speaker 1: he did he looked he did, he handled Night One fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: I could tell he's a little nervous, of course, like
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  Speaker 1: everybody is, um, but I thought he handled a fantastic
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  Speaker 1: And I agree. I think I hope it's almost not
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  Speaker 1: two buttoned up. Like I hope he lets the guard
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  Speaker 1: down a little bit, you know. I hope he's able
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  Speaker 1: to show more of a of as you know, he
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  Speaker 1: gets more comfortable in the process. Um, I guess we'll see. Well,
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  Speaker 1: is it weird that I say that I feel like
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  Speaker 1: this is more him than than the Matt that's with Tyler.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like he's just ease, a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more innocent. Then he comes across on social media. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the more you like you
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  Speaker 1: hanging with your boys is more you than you around
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  Speaker 1: cameras with producers in your ear the other parts more him.
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  Speaker 1: But that's not a bad thing, you know, that's not
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  Speaker 1: a bad thing. It's uh, you know, there is something
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  Speaker 1: about the nerves being endearing though. I think that's one
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  Speaker 1: thing that we can take away from night one from
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  Speaker 1: Matt is Um, it's relatable. Uh. He isn't used to this.
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  Speaker 1: There's no practice in this. Uh. He didn't do the
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  Speaker 1: big l A media tour right, and we have to
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  Speaker 1: consider that too. That helped prep me. Like you go
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  Speaker 1: and you do g M A, and you go and
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  Speaker 1: do today's show, and then you sit down in a
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  Speaker 1: room and you have a hundred different media outlets throwing
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  Speaker 1: questions at you, and you have a suit on while
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  Speaker 1: you do it, and you're starting to feel like the bachelor.
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  Speaker 1: You're starting to really get into that like whole mindset.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't have that, Like he goes right in a
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  Speaker 1: nimicole and with no of none, no media experience, no
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  Speaker 1: celebrity or really like seeing. You know, typically we get
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  Speaker 1: like the paparazzi shot of the Bachelor Bachelor walking out
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  Speaker 1: of Good Morning America. He doesn't have that moment, and
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  Speaker 1: so this is his first experience with a red carpet
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  Speaker 1: and cameras and Chris Harrison and beautiful people walking up
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  Speaker 1: to him, and I find that fun. Like, I think
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  Speaker 1: that's really exciting to watch because his reaction, Yes there's cameras,
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  Speaker 1: and yes, he's gonna be buttoned up. Like, I think
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  Speaker 1: we can all know that Matt James is gonna be
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  Speaker 1: so buttoned up for as long as he possibly can
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  Speaker 1: until the show in a sense breaks him away from
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  Speaker 1: the button up nous. But we get to kind of
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  Speaker 1: watch this journey unfold, and I think we should all
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  Speaker 1: expect that. I think it's gonna be a blast. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I like that's a good point because honestly, if you
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  Speaker 1: look at if you kind of like step away and
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  Speaker 1: look at it, Matt has a lot against him, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like he has a lot. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like he doesn't have a ton of advantages going
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  Speaker 1: into being the Bachelor in this episode, to be the pandemic,
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  Speaker 1: whether he didn't have a season before so like the
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  Speaker 1: fact that I think he's got so much against him
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  Speaker 1: and he's still gonna succeed. I think says a lot
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  Speaker 1: about Matt. There's two things I didn't mention that I
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  Speaker 1: thought I raised a brow because of they didn't mention
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  Speaker 1: that he was friends with Tyler and that's how we
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  Speaker 1: know him. And they also didn't mention that he had
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  Speaker 1: He didn't specifically mentioned that he had been signed up
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  Speaker 1: for Claire season. They alluded to it. That's a good point.
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  Speaker 1: I was afraid of that, honestly, I was like, are
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  Speaker 1: we gonna know Matt the Bachelor or Matt Tyler's best friend?
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  Speaker 1: I was afraid of that, you know, But I think
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  Speaker 1: you're right. I think they didn't mention athlete. I didn't mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the NFL thing. They didn't mentioning that. It
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  Speaker 1: was like they wanted us to get to know them Matt,
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  Speaker 1: you know, as the Bachelor, which I like. I thought
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  Speaker 1: that was a great move. I love the way that
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  Speaker 1: they said when you know, you know, and it was
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  Speaker 1: just like, oh, he was in our interview room and
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  Speaker 1: we knew mm hmmm. I've heard that chose him not
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  Speaker 1: because he was Tyler's best friend, right, I mean, uh,
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  Speaker 1: I mean to be quite frank, like he doesn't need
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  Speaker 1: Tyler right now, Like he needs to be Matt and
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  Speaker 1: he needs to invest in the show. Like which is
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  Speaker 1: a crazy part of the show. You're you're kind of
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  Speaker 1: pushed away from your friends, you don't have any confidence
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  Speaker 1: around you. But he's no longer Matt from the Quarantine crew.
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  Speaker 1: He is Matt James the Bachelor. And I as actually
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  Speaker 1: just said like I want them to highlight Matt James,
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  Speaker 1: like I I don't need I don't need Matt to
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  Speaker 1: be somebody's sidekick. Like this isn't that He's not that anymore.
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  Speaker 1: He is he is gonna flourish and run this show
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  Speaker 1: on his own. Well, one really like crucial part of
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  Speaker 1: the show is how the show really started, and it's
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  Speaker 1: Matt James sitting down with Chris Harrison and discussing Matt's
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  Speaker 1: concerns and his nerves going into being the Bachelor. Is
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  Speaker 1: not he's worried. You know, obviously we're three white people
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  Speaker 1: sitting here talking right now. But I learned a lot
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  Speaker 1: in that moment of how real the concerns are. That
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  Speaker 1: he won't please anybody that he doesn't know who's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be on his side and he's gonna make one side
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  Speaker 1: mad and make the other side mad. It it felt
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  Speaker 1: like of me, Like Jessica looked over at me as
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  Speaker 1: we were watching the episode and she goes, that felt
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  Speaker 1: like an incredibly real moment, like and it was really
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  Speaker 1: it was really, Like it's always fun when the show
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  Speaker 1: highlights those real moments where mask like, Chris, I just
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  Speaker 1: need to hear from you, like, what do you think
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  Speaker 1: of this? Because I'm concerned. Yeah, I thought. I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was a fantastic conversation, and you're right, I gave
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  Speaker 1: us a peek into There's already a ton of pressure
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  Speaker 1: being the Bachelor, and being the bachelor, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: lead of like one of the biggest sellasion shows on
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  Speaker 1: tell you know, one of the biggest shows on television,
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  Speaker 1: so just to add even more pressure, and it seems
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  Speaker 1: it felt like he was adding it kind of onto himself,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I felt like he was
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  Speaker 1: carrying a lot of weight on his shoulders, and with
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  Speaker 1: that conversation he was able to like that um, and
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  Speaker 1: I think maybe it did help. And it seemed to help,
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  Speaker 1: you know, after, you know, Chris, like, how do you
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  Speaker 1: feel like I feel I feel better. So I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: they had that conversation and they showed it. Yeah. The
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  Speaker 1: only thing, and this is such a nitpick about the conversation,
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  Speaker 1: I wish he would have just come over to his
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  Speaker 1: house and been like, hey, let's chat before rather than
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  Speaker 1: having him, you know, pretend I don't know. I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: the limos were about to arrive, but like for him
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  Speaker 1: to act as if he never talked to Harrison and
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  Speaker 1: all that before night one. I just wanted them to
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  Speaker 1: like have like a cozy entrance for him. Yeah. True,
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  Speaker 1: And I see what you're saying. It did seem a
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  Speaker 1: little scripted at the beginning to get to the conversation,
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  Speaker 1: but then the conversation was real. Yeah, exactly. The other
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  Speaker 1: thing that just made me feel like, oh, this guy
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  Speaker 1: hasn't gotten through this before was his conversation with his mom,
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  Speaker 1: because while it was important, you can tell there was
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  Speaker 1: like two people being like, oh my god, I cannot
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  Speaker 1: believe we're talking about this on camera right now. This
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  Speaker 1: is so odd. I could tell his mom was his mom,
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  Speaker 1: just I could look like a little nervous and uncomfortable,
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  Speaker 1: which I don't blame her, you know, because she didn't
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  Speaker 1: go through hometowns, you know, she didn't go through any
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  Speaker 1: of that, so it's kind of weird. But I thought
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  Speaker 1: that was an interesting conversation too, because she basically asked like,
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  Speaker 1: like one was the last thing you were vulnerable and
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  Speaker 1: that literally couldn't think of it. He was like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, it's been a long time. And I was like, oh, boy,
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  Speaker 1: buckle up, buddy, because it's gonna be Yeah, you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get vulnerable. My uh. You know, my parents didn't have
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  Speaker 1: hometowns either during Caitlin season, and so the very first
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  Speaker 1: time time that they saw me on camera was as
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor, like weeks well, a weekend to it. We
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: came to Worth, Sudiana, and I remember like, look at
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  Speaker 1: my parents at one point, be like you just gotta
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  Speaker 1: try to be normal, Like you guys are so nervous
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  Speaker 1: right now, you're My dad is sitting up all straight
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  Speaker 1: with the perfect posture. You know, they've decorated the house
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  Speaker 1: for this. I was like, this, that's great. But you
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  Speaker 1: can see it in Matt's conversation with his mom and
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  Speaker 1: it was probably the one part that you know, I
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  Speaker 1: was most worried from Matt going out because it seemed
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  Speaker 1: they're like, we are going to get a robot, Like,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to get somebody who just says the right thing,
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  Speaker 1: who tries to keep conversation going. It's a little forced,
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  Speaker 1: a little awkward, and this is him with his mom.
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  Speaker 1: Just wait until the women come. But let's transition here.
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  Speaker 1: But let's take a break first. We're gonna talk about
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  Speaker 1: the women next and kind of seeing Matt's guard in
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  Speaker 1: a sense, maybe go down. We'll be back with the
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  Speaker 1: almost famous podcast. Yeah, okay, so let's talk about the
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  Speaker 1: women coming out of the limos. Wow, this is when
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  Speaker 1: he started to relax, you know, I would say, almost
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  Speaker 1: right away, we started to see a map that felt
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  Speaker 1: so natural in this role. Um, I think that he
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  Speaker 1: I just think that it was pretty perfect, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think yeah. I was even surprised, Like it's hard
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  Speaker 1: that night one. You know, it's hard, there's so much,
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  Speaker 1: so much pressure, And that's the I think, I would say,
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  Speaker 1: the night one, that's the only time really for me anyway,
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  Speaker 1: that it felt like it was a movie production. There's
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  Speaker 1: like cameras everywhere, there's thirty producers and it's just like Mayhem.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the only time I felt where it was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, like is this real? For me? Was
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  Speaker 1: Night one, and I thought Matt handle like great, and
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  Speaker 1: I think you're like right away because the conversation he
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  Speaker 1: did have, you know, with Chris and his mom felt
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  Speaker 1: a little robotic, but I felt like right away with
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  Speaker 1: the women, he felt super comfortable, you know, um, and
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  Speaker 1: that's huge, and I hope, I hope he continues that way.
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  Speaker 1: For sure, it didn't hurt that you had women, I
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  Speaker 1: mean coming out with like gusto, Like there was a
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  Speaker 1: lot of confidence displayed on Night one from the women. Now,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of them obviously nervous. I think most of
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: them are. They've been locked in quarantine for I mean,
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: I think it's probably been a week to five days
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: at this point. They're just getting released to the public.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: They meet Matt James, who was a good looking fellow
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: who stands like six ft five. The guy's massive, he's
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: in his suit. There's lights, there's cameras at action. But
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: these entrances were some of the best, I guess more shocking,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Like I think most entertaining entrances that I've seen in
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: a long time on this show, at least that's my opinion,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: would you guys agree. Yeah, I enjoyed it. Yeah, I
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: thought they were pretty good. I thought started like really
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: normal right the first like three or four. I was like,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: they're just going up there saying hi to Matt and
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: that's it. And then all of a sudden, like completely
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: switched and there was a bunch of gimmicks and fun stuff.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: I feel like that was intentional. I think those five
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: women who had slow entrances for them are going to
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: be the front runners. Um. I also think that Matt
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: perhaps was more at ease once the girls started coming through,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: because he was like, oh, look, you've never been doing
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: this before either me. They were both new here and
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: it was like a common bond. Yeah, that's pretty cool
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: to see. He was like that. I can't remember which
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: girl was, but she was like, sorry, I'm shaking. Man's
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: like so am. I We're both you know, like we're
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: both super nervous right now. That was a cool moment. Well,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: obviously some of the entrances that will get talked about
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: and that we need to talk about. Uh, there is
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: a vibrator that shows up on night one. Uh it
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: becomes a highlight of the whole episode. I mean, that
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: thing is everywhere, and there's innu windows consistently throughout the
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: episode about this vibrator. We also have somebody show up
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: in lingerie and asked Matt to pick out the dress uh.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: And finally, I think the third one that stood out
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: to me, and you guys might disagree with this, but
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: somebody I'm very envious of because they kind of have
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: this confidence that I did not exude on Night one.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: They had a kind of a stillness and a calmness
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: about him. It's in Jay who shows up in the
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: pizza UH delivery car and locks the door, walks back
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: around the car, unlocks the car, pulls out the pizza,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: and still has her wits together. I mean that those moments,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: you gotta remember how nervous these girls are and for
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: her to keep her like mind at ease enough to
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: know what to do. They're like, I wouldn't even know
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: how to hardly open a car door if it was
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Night one all over again. I so I camlely agree
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: with you, Ben. That was actually my favorite, not because
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: of the pizza and all that, but because she handled
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: herself so well and she was like no way. She's like,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: no way, that just happened, you know, and then she
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: walked back around. I thought she handed itself fantastic. That
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: was I think like her entrance, like her not the gimmick,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: but like her entrance was was one of my favorites.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the vibrator, because I think the vibrator
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: was funny to him right off the bat out of
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: the limo, but I think it was not funny when
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: she continued the theme throughout the night. I see I
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: actually did. I think it was funny just because the nerves.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I think she calmed a lot of people down. I
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: think also her personality, like if somebody else, let's say
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Victoria for example, she I feel like she rubbed a
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: few people the wrong way. If she had the vibrator,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I think would be mad. But I thought I think
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: her name was is it Katie? Is that Katie was
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: the one with the vibrator? Yes, Okay, I think she
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: like personality wise, I don't think she was like. I
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: think she just seems friendly, like I don't think she
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: was doing it to like piss people off. So I
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: like some of the any one who's here and there,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: like I thought that. I mean I loved when Matt
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: looked at it, lost his train of thought and started laughing,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: like I thought that was fantastic by Matt really showing
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: some of his personality. I like that. Yeah, because what
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: do you say, like, hey night, vibrator, Like I don't
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: know you, you just lost this train of thought, you know.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: But maur certainly didn't like when she was tapped with it.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I can't I can't believe the drama she made about
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: it though, Like she tapped me with the vibrator. She
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: told that to everyone. It was like, no, you should
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: have more of a sense of humor. I think that's
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: a red flag that Mary might be taking everything too
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: seriously in the future. Yeah, I would have laughed about
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: it to the Vibratory. I would say I watched it
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: and on my notes here it's a sign of things
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: that come from Mari. I'm going to be very interested
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: in watching her story because if that is something that
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: gets under her skin, it is a long road ahead
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: of your girl, Like there is gonna be thing after
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: thing after thing, Like you almost just have to pick
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: your battles in your mind and say, is this something
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: that really like I want to get upset about now
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: or do I want to save this for the moment
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: that like this really gets heated and and really gets
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: ugly now tapping them with a vibrator like it's it's
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I think, I don't know, it's weird or like funny
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: or like it just makes you giggle, like I don't know.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: It doesn't like it doesn't make you mad, Like there's
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: nothing about that that like gets you heated up. It's
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: just it's just something. Well. Uh, one of the hidden
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: gyms that I want to talk about right off the
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: back here. There's a lot of women that came in,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I mean so many. When they stood up at the
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: road ceremony on night one, I looked around, like that
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: is a massive group of women. But somebody that stood
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: out to me, uh, not exactly in their entrance, but
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: with their story is Maggie. Maggie's from Ethiopia. She's thirty
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: two years old. She's a model, uh, absolutely beautiful. Now.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Her story is something that's super intriguing, and I'm really
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: excited to get her on the podcast at some point
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: because I want to know what it's like to be
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: in the United States for I think it was eight
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: to nine years now, um, to come over here for
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: school to be a pharmacist and somehow, some way. I
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: have no clue if that they didn't share it, share it.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: She ends up on this show absolutely wild, But I
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: am now convinced she's a front runner because I think
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Matt loves stories and I think he loves hearing the
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: heart and the soul of these women. So yeah, she's
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: she jumped off the screen at me. She's gorgeous. That
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: accent like it works both ways. Men love accents to
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: you know, not just women, like she jumped off the
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: screen of me. And I mean, it is pretty wild
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: to think that. Like I think in her bio it's
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: and some about her winning the lottery basically to come
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: to America and then she basically went to lottery again
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: to go on the Bachelor. It's a wild story. Yeah,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I'm super excited to hear here. And I'm sure she'll
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: get a one on one at some point, I hope. Yeah,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: she carried herself with a lot of grace. I really
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: got good vibes from her. Another story that we heard
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: was from Abigail. Abigail is deaf. Um. She has a
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: cochlear implant, so she's able to hear well enough and
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: she speaks um pretty you know, pretty much clearly, you
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: wouldn't really pick up the fact that she was having
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: a hearing um. She has a hearing problem um. But
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: she she talked about that with him, and she also
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: talked about her relationship with her sister and the way
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: that he looked at her before going in for that kiss.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, he is feeling it and he
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: was definitely having like oh, I'm the bachelor is kissing
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: on the first night, Like okay, I think I'm gonna
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: go for a moment. I loved seeing it evolve. Yes,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: that's so, that's so true. They had this like weird,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: not awkward, but it was like it was so awkward.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: It was like that first kiss awkward. Can I kiss you? Can?
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I not? Like Yeah, it was just like they kind
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: of looked at each other and she was like he
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: gonna kiss me and and he was like is she
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: gonna kiss me? And then she kind of started talk
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: again and that's like you know what I and just
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: went in for it, which I thought was fantastic. Yeah,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: but again, yeah, they're them together. I so she's my
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: preseason faith. Like even before I watched this episode, I
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: was like, I think I don't know something about her,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: like smile sometimes I feel like you can just sometimes
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: somebody's a good person. I could be wrong, I don't know,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: but I felt like he was super comfortable with her
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: for some reason. I just felt like he let his
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: walls down more than anybody else. Um he did that night,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: you know. So I'm excited to see they're they're connecting involved.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I don't think we can downplay that kiss either, Like
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I don't think Matt James is somebody that wants to
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: go kissing too many people this season. In fact, I
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: could almost go as far as saying I know that,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: like I I believe uh and and am fairly certain
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: that this isn't something that he's just gonna throw around
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: to fill awkward space, Like he's not just gonna kiss
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: because the conversation is weird. So this kiss on night one,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: after a few minutes minutes of knowing each other, I
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: think is a big deal. Obviously she gets the first
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: impression Rose as we all know, but a big deal
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: for like of the storyline that they're going to have
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: because I think Matt James is smitten right away and
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: all he needs is to be smit with one person,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: especially I like, yeah, I zoom her to top three already.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I feel like our top three is almost I mean,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: given the past few seasons have had sleepers who make
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: top three. But if I had to choose, these are
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: my top three, and I want you guys to give yours. Rachel, Bree,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: and Abigail. So that's that's almost those those are so
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go top four hometowns. I was going home town,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: but I also have Bree, Rachel, and Abigail in there.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: And then I think, who's the girl that was from?
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: She had the truck, the pickup truck. She was North Carolina.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Yea her name, I know. I was trying to think
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: of her name. I can't remember it. But I think
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: she the hot the sweet tea thing was super sweet,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: and he seems like they seem to click, and I
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: think she might be the fourth inning. I don't know
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: what to order, but I think that's the fourth that's Kayla, Kayla, Yes,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I think Kayla. Yeah. So my top three. I'm never
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: good at this. I lose every time him and in fact,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: most of the girls I choose go home the second week,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: but I believe that I'm onto something this week. My
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: top three right now are Abigail, Maggie, and Sinai, and
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: then I'll throw Rachel in as number four. I I
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: was just so into how into Rachel was to Matt, Like,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I just thought that was the cutest thing ever. And
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I think she really likes him, and so I'll use
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: that as my top four again, that's Abigail, Maggie, Sinai,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: and Rachel. I love Rachel. I loved her dress, I
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: loved her makeup, I love her face, I love her
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: just personality, her vibes. I loved how moved she was
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: by the prayer because the prayer did a lot for
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: me too. I thought that was a beautiful way of
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: starting the night and something we've never seen before. And
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: it just did feel, as Rachel said, so authentic. Yeah
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: she like didn't she like tear up almost like after
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: his prayer. Yeah, that stood out to me too. I
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: was like, Okay, Like she seems super genuinely. I like her.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: The prayer was a really pivotal point in the show. Um,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: because I think it's set the tone for who Matt
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: James is right and what he's looking for. I think
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: all these women right away knew Matt is a man
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: of faith. Um, that his faith is gonna hopefully, uh,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: well it is going to guide him with you know,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: good decisions, bad decisions, gonna still gonna guide him no
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: matter what through this experience. And it also shows what
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: he's looking for. He's looking for somebody to probably uh
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: come into his life with him and share that faith.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Helped grow that faith, uh, explore that faith, and it
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: was a great way to start this season. Um and
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: and here it might be the thing that surprised me
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: both right, Like, my faith is very important to me.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I honestly never thought about starting my season out with
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: a prayer. Never crossed my mind, never even considered it. Now,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: say what you want about that whatever. But for a
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: guy to do that with no experience, with no prep
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: for this, super nervous and says, no, this is how
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this, like this is gonna be me
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: from day one, I thought was an incredible thing for
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: us to see him do as the Bachelor. Yeah, I
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it. And it was he nailed the
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: prayer too, because sometimes I think a prayer it can
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: alienate some people on occasion, like if you say it wrong,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: but he it was never like I hope that I
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: find it why. It was like, I hope we enjoyed that,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: you know, it's all about we like really was able
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: to like bring people and I thought it was fantastic too.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: And I didn't expect to like it, and I did
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: loved it, loved it. Uh. And then another person that
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I think is worth mentioning about like having a strong
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: right off the back connection would be Bree, who you know,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Blake and I put into our top threes fours. Bree
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: was the person I thought was going to get the
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: first impression Rows and was the person that I was
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: comparing his conversation with Abigail too, because I just felt
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: like both were deeper conversations. He was really connecting looking
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: at them in a way that he was like, I'm
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: feeling this with Bree. He was relating to her on
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: the fact that they both come um, they're both by
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: racial and they just seem to have very similar backgrounds.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Both of their parents were divorced and they had issues
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: with romance because of it. So I really thought that
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: was going to lead him to the first impression Roles.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: But I'm happy with with the fact that I would
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: have been happy with either of the two of them
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: getting it. Well, let's move on to pause here for
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: a second. Talk about things now that we know about Matt.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: We've now gone through the entrances, the ones that set
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: out to us the start of the show. But some
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: of the things now that we know about Matt is
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: that he's a Christian. He was raising a Christian household
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: and he believes that still to this day. Also that
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: he's very close with his mom, and his mom and
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: dad separated when out of young when he was young,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: and the relationship with his dad isn't as much there
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: and uh, I don't know to what extent yet, but
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: it's not there. It's he didn't obviously have his dad
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: show up to the show. Uh, he speaks about kind
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: of being really close with his mom, so he kind
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: of are getting the hint to him and his dad
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: are not too close. Now. This obviously is a story
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: that you know, Like as we talked about the beginning
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: of episode, we thought we knew a lot about Matt,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: but this was something I didn't know and something that
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: takes a lot of vulnerability. As he asked for in
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: the women. He asked for himself right away is to
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: share some things that are probably the hardest for him
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: to speak about. Yeah, I mean, I I was surprised
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: how because I know, like you said, we don't really
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: know Matt going in UM, and I was surprised how
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: much we already got to know about Matt, like within
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: the first episode. I really feel like I got to
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: know a lot about him. I think there's still more
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: to come, but yeah, I mean that's one thing that
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't even honestly, I didn't know
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: his faith was as prominent in life as it is,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: you know, And so I think it's I think it's
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: great to see this side of Matt. I know we
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: touched on earlier, but it was just amazing how within
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: this episode I feel like he was He got to
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: be so routable, uh so well liked, and people have
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: never met him before. Just it's it's it's really crazy
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: how attached I feel to him and how much I
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: want him to find love through knowing him for an
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: hour and twenty minute TV time. I even we even
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: got to see a little goofy s out of that too,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Like I love there was one moment where I was like, okay, man,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: that's when he was playing chess and he like moved
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: that one piece likeng and that girls like can you
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: do That's like, no, I'm just playing, just making sure
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: you know how to do it. I was like that
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: was like sometimes when you're too nervous, you don't mess
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: or joke around like that. You know. So I think
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: that show that he was like relaxed a little bit
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: in the role, and I was like, okay, like that
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: was a funny move. You know, just those little things
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: sometimes we Uh. I think it's almost promised that we're
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: gonna have two really good seasons back to back at
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: the Bachelorette now the Bachelor. But some side topics that
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: don't really fit into anything but that are obviously gonna
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: be big storylines that we need to bring up and discuss. Uh.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Cynthia Raleigh, uh daughter Kit is now on the show.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Uh Kit came in. Cynthia Raley is obviously known uh
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: in the fashion world. She's a huge name. Uh. Kit
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: is obviously the one that kind of goes against Victoria,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Queen Victoria saying no, I'm the president of the CEO.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: You know, whatever was going on there, Uh, what do
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: you think about somebody that are you know, she's considered
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: a socialite already in New York. I think that's something
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: that mentioned. What do you think of somebody that's already
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: a socialite coming onto the show with the name that
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: she has. Is gonna be a lot of attention on her.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Obviously we're talking about her, and she really don't have
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: a big part in this episode. Yeah, not really. I mean, yeah,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: the Victorian kid thing, I think's gonna go that might
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: be the two on one this season. You know, I
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: feel like that's gonna be fun to watch. But I'll
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: be honest, I, you know, reading her bio and the
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: socialite thing, I was like, oh my god, this girl
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: is gonna be super I don't know the word I'm
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: looking for, Like you know, I'm calling yeah, exactly, Like,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: but honestly, I didn't think she came off as about
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I thought she was pretty sweet and everything. But we'll
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: see if she can, you know, keep that up with it,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: because I think her and Victoria are going to have
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: a pretty big feud. Um. Yeah, I mean all, you're right.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I think she's gonna I think she's gonna have a
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: bigger part the rest of the season than she did
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: this episode. Yeah, but I also feel like she'll be
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: the person that we're really rooting for against Victoria, because
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Victoria was already driving me nuts the first night, and like,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: sometimes the villain can be funny at first, but like
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I didn't find her funny whatsoever. I love the way
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Kit was standing up to her. I love kids a
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: sense of confidence. She she might be a little boogie um,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: but she really does. She like knows herself and she's
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: not going to put up with any crap. I think
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: she's really pretty and she's only twenty one. She definitely
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: comes across far more mature, at least in the way
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: that she can't handle herself now emotionally, we'll see. Yeah,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I thought it was super You're you're right about Victoria.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Like I think some villains sometimes can be like a
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: bit charming and kind of likable. But I'm I'm scared
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: for Victoria. I don't think she's going to come off
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: that um. So it's gonna be interesting season to see her. Yeah. Yeah,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: but she's the kind of villain who like she was there,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: like she she put herself there and gave herself this
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: persona right off the bat on purpose. Yeah, I agree,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: she's not she's backing away from episode and I don't
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: think it's just always shocking to me. Every season is
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: still show ox me, like, and I think it shows
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: a lot about your character. Right. We've talked about with Tasha,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: we talked about it with Claire, We've talked about it
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: season after season. But you know that Matt James has
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: a massive night in front of him with Todd trying
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: to talk to every single one of these women. He
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: is going to be exhausted, like understand what his role
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: is right now, Yet somebody still chooses to interrupt him
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: two or three times or however thinking that like that
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: is the right thing to do at that point in time.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I will say this for anybody watching the show. When
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: somebody does that, your alert system should go off and
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: go I gotta keep my eye out for this human
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: because they are about to cause havoc. It happens every
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: time and somehow there they do it year after year
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: after year. Um, and it's just not okay. It's not
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: respectful of Matt, it's not respectful of the other women.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: It's exhausting, and ultimately, like at some point, like Matt
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: has to look at Victoria and be like can you
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: just not for five minutes, like just give me breath. Well.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Another big story to discuss here is Heather M. Heather
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: M shows up in the highlights and the kind of
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: the recap at the end of the episode. Do you
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: think she shows up to the season. I mean, it
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: looks like she does. She shows up to be part
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: of the season for sure. Whether or not she's let in,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: we don't know. It definitely seems like she's not the
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: only girl that shows up beyond night one too, there's
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: another girl. It seems like she has closer ties to
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Matt with Heather. I'm thinking because she's such close friends
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: with with Hannah that she was like Hannah was encouraging
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: her to do it and uh and thinking that they'd
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: be a good match. But not coming on night one
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: is a no no. You if your Heather, you try
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: to come on on night one and that'll be fine
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: and totally fair. Yeah, I agree, I think I mean
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: she must become I mean, yeah, you're right, like she
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: must obviously come on to try and be on the show,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: whether Matt lets in or not, or that you know,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: she gets a rose or not. But that's the only
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I was trying to think of like a connection between it,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: but it really is only Hannah be like, I don't.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know if Heather's maybe hung out with Matt before,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: you know, pre show, like it's some kind of event
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: or something and she hit it off. Um maybe, and
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: maybe that is there's something we don't know. Me they
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: did have like a connection at some event or something,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: But as far as I know, Hannaby is the only
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: connection they really have. So it's gonna be interesting to
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: see how that plays out. And then the final one
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: is Tyler eventually makes an appearance. Now we just talked
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: about Tyler earlier. Uh, you know what how Matt was
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: going to manage you know, being known Kyla kind of
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: as Tyler's friend for a while now being the Bachelor.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: But Tyler does come onto this season, what are your thoughts?
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not shocks, you know. I I figured
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Tyler would come on, and I try and like think
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: of it, like there's been a lot of people who
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: come on. I mean there was Um for hand, Toby,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: it was like Demi, uh and someone else. Can we
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: remember they the best friends up? Yeah, So I don't
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: want to read into it too much, like, oh, look,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: they're trying to bring Tyler into steal some of Matt's spot,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Like I'm not trying to think of it, as they
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: were really close even before shows. So it's even better
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: than bringing in like Demi for Hannah because they've known
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: each other for years, you know, and so I hope
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: hopefully they do have an actually good conversation and they
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: get advice some things. So, but what I'd want for
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Tyle or it is for him to come in later,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: like when we get to top six or whatever, so
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: we can actually get a good evaluation of what he
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: thinks of his remaining ladies. Did it seem like he
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: came in super early? I couldn't tell. Probably, I don't know.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's probably gonna be middle middle at
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: least like ten or something. Those screeners always always confused me,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: and I'm always up in arms. Yeah, they say something,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: there's a word taken out of place, and all of
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: a sudden, I'm watching for it all season. You know,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: there's an ambulance that comes up and somebody's sick and
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: it ends up just you know, being nothing. But uh well, okay,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: let's end this thought with this Blake. We're gonna bring
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: you back after the break to talk a little bit
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: about you and break down some headlines with you. Um,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: but to sum up this episode, I want to hear
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: your ratings and your final thoughts. So anything we didn't
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: get to please share and also give your rating on
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: the premiere episode of Matt James this season. Uh, we'll
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: start with Blake, So you want like rating of the
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: one to ten, one to ten, reading of one to ten.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Let's see. Honestly, this was a good It was a
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: good first episode, I think mostly because I got to
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: know Matt more than I thought that I would. I
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: thought it would be, you know, sometimes this first episode,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: since we already know the lead, we get more of
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: like the girls. But I thought I really got to
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: know Matt here. I'm gonna give it a solid heart ache.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a hard ache because I always
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: gave him from proven So I'm gonna give it a
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: hard eight. Crap, you took my number. I was going
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: to give it an eight to I would normally give
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: an episode like this a seven. I feel like, you know,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: it's a little too methodical Night one at this point,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: but I'm giving it an eight because it did do
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: such a good job at getting us attached to Matt,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: and it really highlighted him. Um. As far as Matt
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: as a bachelor, I'm going to give him a ten
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: so far in this episode, I would give it an
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: eight and a ten as well. Matt being the Bachelor's
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: a ten. Considering everything um that went on, I thought
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: it was a great episode. I really enjoyed getting to
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: see these women. I thought, unlike last season, at the
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: very beginning, I felt like we really got to know
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: more of the personalities of these women right off the bat,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Like there's some women that I could like that sit
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: out to me that I know the names of after
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: week one, which I didn't know until Week four of
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: last year. You know, of the Bachelorette season, A great episode.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it for the future. Uh, let's
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: take a break here. When we come back, we're gonna
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: have Blake on still to talk about his life and
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: everything going on with the rumors of Becka Koufern and
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: his opinion on the Kelly and Peter breakup. We'll be back.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: We still have Blake on. Blake. Uh, here's the headline
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: from US Weekly. I'm gonna read it to you and
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: I just want to hear you, respond, says Blake Hortzman.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Collapsed back at and I quote stupid comment after supporting
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Peter Webber amid split from Kelly Flann again. Wait what
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: what's the headline? Let me repeat it. This is a
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: good moment for us. You're gonna learn about it as well.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: It's according to US Weekly that yeah, it says Blakesman
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: collapsed back at stupid comment after supporting Peter Webber amid
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: split from Kelly Flann again. Let me read it to you.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation bros. Blake Horseman took aim at an insensitive
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: comment after showing his support for Peter Webber amid the
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Pilot split from girlfriend Kelly flannagain. Keep your head up, brother,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Horseman thirty one commented beneath Webber's a breakup announcement, to
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: which one Instagram music replied, this is a stupid thing
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: to say to someone. The Bachelor in Paradise a lump
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: fire back. What you said is a stupid thing to
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: say to someone. God, they would read an article about anything.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: I had no idea that was even out there. I mean, yeah,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: I just wrote. I just wrote under neath you know,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: like when you know what I would do it under friends,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: you know, um pictures And I was like yeah, keep
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: your head up. And somebody was like, that's stupid thing
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: to say, like really, like, I feel like, but you
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: just said it's a stupid thing to say. Um. Yeah,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: these situations are always really hard and tempers are high
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: and everything because you know that everybody's got their faiths
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: and you know, so it's always always get funny. Anytime
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I comment on somebody's photo in fascination, I get some
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: kind of their stagecoach joke in there. I get so
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: many saying something so I'm used out there. So I'm
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: glad you could respond to it. Appreciate that. So do
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: you know anything about their breakup? No? I don't, Actually,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I really don't. Uh. I was shocked when I remember
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: waking up in the morning I saw the post. I
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, like I had I feel
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: like they were just going to move in in New
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: York and I don't know, I guess, uh, I think
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: they'll obviously something's gonna come out. I think it happened
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: just so fast that something must have drove into that.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: It wasn't really and they didn't even take time, like
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: you know, some people be broken up for like three
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: months and then post a picture and like you know,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: and you know, a post with a caption and everything.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: But that was quick. So I mean there's no hope
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: of getting met together. I feel like then they didn't
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: think there was any promise in that. So I don't know.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: It's interesting. We'll see what happens, but I don't know anything.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, Ben and I are going to discuss
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: more about their breakup later in headlines, um, but more
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: headlines pertaining to you. Last week, we discussed how Rebecca
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Koufrin revealed on her Instagram M stories that your date
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: during her season was her favorite. It was a little
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: shady towards her ex beiance Garrett. How did it feel
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: to see that up there? I mean that date was
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Okay, that day was great. If
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: you guys remember like we got to break all of
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: like no shade to Ri but like we gotta break
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: all of our stuff, you know, and like kind of
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: like quote unquote like get rid of the memory of
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Ari so she can move on. Um. So I know
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: the date was fantastic, list and I think I think
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: people right into it, like they do everything. We're did
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: into it a lot, and you know, it wasn't like
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: what's your romance most rantic date. It was like literally,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: what's your you know, most fun date, and like she
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: said that one. So but I mean, yeah, it was
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: fun date. So it's felt good. I guess it was
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: a fun day. And I agree that was probably my
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: favorite day, one of the my favorite dates, um that
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: I've done, if it, whether it be Bashade or paradise.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: So did that stir up any sort of like d
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: m NG between you two, Well, we've we've been in
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: you know, contact like d M s and stuff, and
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: like we're friends, you know, so it's not like we
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: haven't d M before. But of course I was like, okay,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: like I reposted it. Actually I think I think I
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: reposted it. Um, So yeah, of course we like talk
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: on um. I mean, I know we asked you this
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: last time and it was also a post breakup, but like, no,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: no rekindling there. We're still just friends. We're still just friends.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Uh that is that where that ends? Still just friends? Yes,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: still just friends. But it is pretty cool to see
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: how the support out there. A lot of people wanted
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: to get back together. I've been seeing that like crazy,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Um no, we are still just friends. I think I
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: can speak on behalf of us that we are shipping this,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: but we also may be shipping you in a lease
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: who have been spending a lot of time together. And
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: I know that last time we asked you, you guys
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: were also still just friends. But it seems a little
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: bit more suspicious now because of all these ins stories
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: you've been posting. Now were we really are? Me and
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: e lisare like really close friends. Um. I met her
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: at the Bachelive on stage, and then she came to
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: my my DJ set out there in Scottsdale, and we
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: just became friends and over you know, the pandemic, we
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: talked here and there. Um. And now she's just a
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: good person and you know she's she's she She's always
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: somebody easy to talk to and can be there for you.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: And so she's just been there. And then I just
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: happened to be out in Scottsdale for a golf tournament
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: and I went and hung out with her and she
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: made me a funny Christmas ugly Christmas start with my
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: face on it. That kind of know. Me and me
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: and a Lis are just friends. We always have been. Um,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: she's great. Sorry, we can confirm she's been great to
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: us in the podcast. Yeah, she's been awesome really since
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: the beginning of this podcast, kind of supporting us, help
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: us out, and then coming on and sharing wisdom and
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: advice with us. So hey, we love Elise. Also we
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: we as well, Ashley and I are just friends with her.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: But like any time I hang out with anybody, you know,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: any any female, any of the opposite sex, I'm dating,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: you know, hooking. You know so well, you lead yourself here.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: What was the last time you went on a real date?
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, I keep my dating history private, actually super private.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: We did watch the football game together this weekend. In fact,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: we did, yeah, I mean had a big date this weekend. Okay, Well,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: you guys and we asked Blake a whole bunch of
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: questions about whether he would ever do Bachelor in Paradise
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: or anything in the franchise ever again during our in
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: depth episode, which is you know, it's an evergreen episode.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: If you guys didn't catch it back in April, you
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: can go back and listen to that now. It was
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: April sixteenth release and Blake, um, I have no further questions. Okay,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: I blame all of this on you asked you and
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Jason started this back of thing. So that's on you.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: It should continue to if I if it's up to me,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: it should just keep happening until it happens. Well, hey, everybody,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: if you want to hear more of Blake uh in
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: his co host Eric, make sure you listen to Behind
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: the Rows. That's everywhere you can listen to podcast. Blake Horseman,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: thanks for coming on, thanks for sharing the time. Uh,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: and we'll be talking to you, I'm sure again sometime soon. Yeah, absolutely,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: thanks guys, appreciate good sing by. We're back with another
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: breakdown of Bachelor headlines. They continue to flow in and
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: we continue to talk about him. This week's top headline
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: is one that we've hinted at discussed, but we're shocked
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: by Uh. Bachelor's Peter Weber and Kelly Flannagan split. The
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: quote is these moments in life always hurt this. According
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: to US Weekly, we're real the only ones that were
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: shocked by this. Apparently there have been signs on their
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: social media, but I guess I don't keep enough tabs
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: on them to know that they hadn't been featuring each
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: other lately. I did have a little red flag go
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: up in my head during Christmas week when they weren't
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: spending Christmas together, But I was like, hey, nine month relationship,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think you have to spend
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: or there's an expectation to spend Christmas together nine months
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: in Yeah, and but I heard something. I don't know
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: if it's true or not. Our listeners always know this
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: more than we do sometimes, but I heard that Kelly
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Flanagan was ring Peter Webber like face socks on Christmas. Really. Yeah,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: so I guess this was a thing. And so it's
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: obviously happened in a short amount of time where things,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe they're rocky before, and this just was
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: kind of something happened that kind of made it made
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: them decide, hey, this isn't for the best. But yes,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: I would say that you and I both are shocked. Like,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: without social media, this seemed like a couple who had
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: made it through quarantine, who were traveling together, who were
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: obviously connecting each other's families. It was surprising to me
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: that they are no longer in a relationship. Yeah, and um,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: apparently one of the dividing moments for them was like
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: the move to New York, because I know that in
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: our hot topics in the past few months, we've been
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: talking about how they planned on moving to New York together,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: but that somehow created a point of division for them.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: So who knows what what's there? You can of course
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: dissect and lies. There two separate Instagram posts Peter posted
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: on the thirty one December, Kelly posted on January three.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: It seems like they're on good terms. Kelly says that
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: they are in two different stages of their life and
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: saw their future paths differently, and then Peter said that, um,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: you know, they decided to go their separate ways. Love
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: can make you feel on top of the world. It
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: can make you feel pain, you wish you didn't didn't
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: have to that didn't have to exist. Um. He said
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: that they have countless beautiful memories. The relationships simply didn't
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: work out. Kelly is someone that he'll always have a
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: special love for. So we don't have details. Of course,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: you know, they're not gonna air right away what happened. Um,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: but they seem on good terms. And of course Peter's mom,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Barb had to speak up on the half of the
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: break up and she had to do it public, so
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: she wrote under Peter's Instagram saying love can be fickle,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: and it is not for the timid. Those who have
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: experienced it know this all too well. But it is
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: better to have loved and lost than have never to
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: love at all. Our hearts ache for you too. Kelly
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: will always have a piece of our hearts and we
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: wish her only the best, Mom and Dad. I'd also
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: like to take a second here and say that I
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: found out this week that barb is on Cameo, so
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: she might be the old is the only parent that's
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: ever gone on the show that that has a cameo
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: or a own brand per se for herself. I think
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: that Barbara costs as much as Jared and I do
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: on cameo. Well, there you go. I don't know how
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: that makes you feel. Uh Well, this headline is one
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: that I'm glad we're talking about. There was rumors and
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: there's questions about Zach Clark, who obviously Tasia pickni in
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: and who is now happily engaged to Tasia. Um you know,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: there was drinks shown of him, that he was shown
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: drinking something during the show, and some people wondered, well,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: if you are sober, how are you drinking on the show. This,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: according to people, Actley what we got. Well, he was
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: always drinking apple cider or ginger ale, And I'll tell you,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: apple cider and ginger ale sound a lot more appealing
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: than the champagne that they give you at rose ceremonies.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Do you remember the taste of that champagne? It is
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: the cheapest champagne. Oh, it's so bad. It has a
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: specific it's a specific taste. And every time I have
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: a glass of champagne on the set of The Bachelor
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: or whatever, I get thrown back to a rose ceremony
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: and like having those the ease like that like post
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: traumatic stress and sorry, bad term, but you know what
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: I mean of going through a rose ceremony and that
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: sweet relief of getting through. So it's just one of
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: those tastes that's so nostalgic to me, just not good.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: And now I'm rambling. The bottom line here is Zack
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: never drank. And there was a moment I think it
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: may have been the Top four Rows ceremony when Tatia
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: said that she got handed a glass of champagne and um,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: she said no, she sent it back and asked for
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: some apple cider to join Zach and drinking and not drinking,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: and she said that that was one of the moments
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: that she knew when she just made that impromptu decision.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: How sweet. Well, um, yes, it is true that the
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: you know what, My theory is that the champagne, it's
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: just saved over season the season, like why are you
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: buying brand new Basso champagne every season? So there she
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: could be champagne on there from like Bob Guinea season
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: that now we're consuming, which hey, champagne might be better
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: at I don't know for vintage. Yeah, I don't call
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: it that. Well, this headline is one that's been talked
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: about all weeks, but not shocking to anybody who is
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: in Batch nation who has been on the show, or
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: anybody's ever watched the show. However it is, it has
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: been an interesting story to see unfold. The headline means
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: this Chris Harrison not leaving Bachelor franchise despite move to Texas. Yes,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: the move to Texas is confirmed, but Chris Harrison is
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: going nowhere. Yeah, this is just no. You don't put
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: these two together. Just to let you know, they only
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: film about two weeks in l A. And in those
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: two weeks, well, Harrison stays in his house because his
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: house is very close to the Bachelor mansion. But um,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: most of the production crew stays in a hotel those
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: two weeks anyway, So if Harrison is getting rid of
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: his California house, and I would assume that he's probably
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: gonna have someplace he keeps there, um, even if he's like,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: you know, downsizing. He films maybe a total of one
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: month out of the year in l A on a
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: typical non COVID year, So I think that he can
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: keep his primary home in Texas and fly out to
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: wherever they're shooting, which, let's hope starting I don't know
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: next Bachelor season they're able to travel again, but who knows. Anyway,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: you guys, Uh, logically, this makes total sense for him
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: to be able to live anywhere he wants in America
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: and continue to be the host of The Bachelor. Yeah,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: I mean there's so many positives living in Texas. L A. Obviously,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: um is gonna look different here post pandemic than it
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: did before. There's a lot of people moving, and a
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: lot of stars do travel for work. Ryan Seacrest is
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: one of those. You know, he's like by coastal. He
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: goes from l A to New York for the Ryan
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: and Kelly Show, and then back for American Idol and
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: his radio show there. This isn't shocking, UM, but Matthew
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: McConaughey lives in Texas, definitely, So Chris Harrison is from Texas.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: He's moving back to Texas to be closer to his family.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Good for him. He also has um a new or
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: it's I don't know if it's completely now, but you
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: know that he has that bar. He's a big brewery
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: that he's pertinently invested into. So good for Chris Harrison.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: He's not going anywhere. You have to worry about that
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: bachel Nation. That guy is here to stay and he
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: just doesn't age, so why would we want to go?
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Well better with age so much sexier now than he
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: was a decade ago. The this headline reads, and it's
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: one that we've been interested about, kind of behind the
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: scenes and waiting to update you on until there is
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: more information. UM. Kind of communicated, but Ryan Sutter opens
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: up about no longer feeling alone amid mystery illness. Well
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: we still don't know what he has, which I cannot
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: imagine how that feels to be going through. But he
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: said that he learned a lot about resiliency this year.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: He said. For years he's followed this ideal laid out
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: by Gandhi that strength was measured by an abdominable will.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: He says he pushed himself to develop a mindset where
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: he would never give up, never give in, never give
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: off any sign of weakness. He did this mostly on
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: his own, choosing solitude as his practice. UM but he
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: said he had a few breakdowns, that fewer. He said
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: that he had a few breakdowns um but mostly he
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: said he internalized difficulty and distracted himself from the presence
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: through physical exertion. He says his work for him. He
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: said he felt confident resilient until this year, and this
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: year he says that he's learned to ask for help,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: to lean on people around him. He said that Trista
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: has developed a has developed a medical strategy to aid him,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: and he says that though he believes that there is
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: a tremendous value in strong will and self reliance, he
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: says he now realizes that sometimes those things are romantic excuses.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: So like nice ways of being stubborn, He says that
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: it is sometimes necessary to let others in and to
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: ask for help and to be able to accept it.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: We're with Ryan will continue to keep everybody updated as
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: we hear more. Uh it is good to hear that. Uh.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: He you know, his strength internally has continued to show through,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: and then he doesn't feel alone. Being alone has to
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: be one of the worst feelings any human can feel,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: and so worth Ryan and anybody else out there. Really
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: during COVID, that's feeling alone. That's just not fun, and
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: so reach out for help when needed. Uh. We have
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: another kind of surprising illness that's hit Bachelor Nation. Bachelorette
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: alum Emily Maynard reveals she was diagnosed with Bell's palsy
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: while pregnant with fifth child, now Ashley. I have recently learned,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: uh how common Bell's palsy is. I. I you know,
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: I've had a friend whose father had it as when
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: we were children. I was kind of shocked, like when
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: it happened, right, your face kind of lose has a
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: lot of weakness, and your muscles kind lose their ability
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: to function. But it's more common, uh people than I knew.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: And well, Emily Maynard has announced that she had Bells policy. Okay,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: so exactly my feelings. I was like, oh my god,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: Emily had Bell's policy or she has Bells policy. That's
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: so serious. You know. I was just thinking that this
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: is like a really big deal and I was gonna
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: last her whole life. But apparently it comes in um
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: increments or like it's often just temporary. Nobody knows the
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: exact cause of the condition, which is super crazy. But
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: she had it while she was pregnant. Um had to
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: wear a patch. But it seems like she's fine. Now,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: I mean was your was your friend's dad like just
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like one day he had strength
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: come back to his face. Yeah, it's kind of a
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: more gradual process. I remember, so, like, you know, you
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: start feeling like the twitching and the ability for your
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: face to kind of function again. It comes back slowly,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: but it's coming for it to. It's it's most of
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: the time temporary, at least that's according to the Mayo Clinic. Um,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: but it is it isn't uncommon and uh, but it's
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: still I mean a very scary, a very scary thing
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: to have happened when your face, you know, kind of
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: loses his ability to function in the ways that you're
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: normal with. Uh. Well, bachelor um Lauren Bushnell and country
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: singer Chris Lane reveal their babies sex. Uh this according
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: to Good Morning America, well what a cute gender reveal.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: So they're having a boy. And if you guys saw
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: on Lauren's Instagram, she posted a video of them finding out.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: So they set up a golf ball that was filled
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: with a powder, blue powder, and Chris hit it off
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: the tea and it exploded into you know, a little
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: blue smoke, and he was gigging out. It was so cute.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: It's it's like we see so many of these gender
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: reveals these days that it's like, well, yeah, right, but
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: like this one actually gave me feelings because this man
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: was so excited about having a boy. Did you watch Ben?
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: Is that that you can watch? Right? That's not Oh yeah, no,
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: that's not weird of course. And I mean the best
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: thing is he says he has his own little golfing buddy. Now,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: so uh, one of the yeah, I mean come on that.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: You know, my my dad and I are getting ready
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: for the Diamond Resorts uh tournament here in just two
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: short weeks. One of the coolest things is he caddies
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: for me because we've grown up playing so much golf together.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: That's like one of the things that we get to
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: do that we share that we can still do. You know,
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: when I was young and he was younger, and now
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: that he's older and I'm getting older, we can still
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: do it the same way we did it before. Like
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: I think Chris is spot on, Like one of the
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: coolest things you can do in life is played golf
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: with your son or daughter. But it's really fun to
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: go out and play golf with your dad. It really
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: helps bond you and and I know I always look
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: forward to it. So congratulations to Chris and Lauren. A
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: baby boy is on the way. Hey Ben, how do
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: you feel about gender reveals? They're great for the grand
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: but I don't know if I can do one. Well, yeah,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: they're for the graham. Um, I didn't know there were
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: a thing before social media, but I mean they work right,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Like it's a fun thing to do. I'm sure one day, uh,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: if all goes well, I'll be able to have a
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: gender reveal of some sort. Um, It'll be fun for
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: the family. I think one of the coolest parts about
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: a gender reveal is probably the celebration with family afterwards.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: Like the whole moment of like, you know, finding out
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: as cool, but it doesn't you know, maybe it does. Parents,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: let me know if I'm wrong. It doesn't change anything.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Like you're gonna love that child the same way if
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: it was a boy or a girl. But it's exciting
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: to find out the gender. Uh, and then celebrate whatever
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: that you know the child's gonna be with your friends
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: and family. I mean it's kind of fun. Another reason
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: I have a party. Yeah, I feel like I kind
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: of need a private moment. That's fair to Well, you
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: can have it. We'll see, we'll play it by your
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: maybe for the first one you do it and for
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: the second one private moment, who knows. Anyway. Moving on
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: to our last headline, The Bachelorrett's Mikey Tinarelli. Now here's
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: something funny. I was just looking up Mikey Tinarelli last evening.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: Now it wasn't because of his engagement. It was because
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: at least Dell Bomb had posted on her Instagram she
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: was at some market shopping and she saw this like
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: wet heated pad, so like it was a path that
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: you got wet and then you heated it and it
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: went on your body and helped relieve like muscle pain.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: Why you would want a wet he I don't. I
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: don't know that yet. I think I think the package
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: said moist, which is just a really awkward word to
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: use in marketing. But um, anyways, the cover of this
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: package had Mikey on it, and I was like, I
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: know I recognize this guy, I just don't know how.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: And so I was researching it, found out was him,
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: and then find out that he's engaged to Kate Wood
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: and it quote is best day of my life is
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: according to people, very happy for Mikey. Um. I was
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: down in Bachelor in Paradise too with Mikey. He within
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: an hour picked my sister up and carried her into
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: the ocean. He had a big crush on her for
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Okay, well maybe not a big crush,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: but he had immediate attraction to her, and it was
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: funny because that is not her type. Um. But anyway,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: I am very happy because this is a guy that
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: you could tell really wanted a wife and family and
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: now he's got it. So good, you know, good luck
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: and best wishes for them. They got engaged at Nubs
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: Nobe in Michigan, like right on the ski slope, so
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: it's very very sweet to see this. It's actually nubs knob.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: We've been there, Okay, but you get it. Well, Hey,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: happy for Mikey, happy for Kate, Ashley, tell me this.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: We've now broken down the episode. We've watched the premiere episode.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: How excited are you for this Sason of the Bachelor? Well,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: I'm very excited for Matt's too, hopefully find love. I'm
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: a little bit worried that he's gonna freaking freak out
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: and like he's gonna get scare himself off, don't we all?
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, hey, it's it just happens during that show.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: In fact, I was talking to a couple of posts
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: or past Bachelor's um during the episode and the agreement
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: with all of us, we're all saying the same thing, like, hey,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: it really looks like this hurts him. And knowing Matt,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: you know, I know it hurts him, but he does
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: break down. But here's the truth, so does everybody else.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Like nobody makes it through this thing unscathed, unemotional. It's
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: one of the in a sense, the most beautiful parts
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: of the show is it pulls out raw emotion. Now
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: when that emotion is manipulated, not cool. But when that
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: emotion then transforms into a love story, or it transfer
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: forms into one of these contestants becoming a better human,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: it's really really cool. And I believe that Matt is
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: a great human going in, he'll be an even better
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: human going out. Uh. And I'm super pumped for this
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: uh this season. I think it's going to be absolutely incredible. Well,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: one thing I can say I'm sure of is that
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: he does not leave this experience not having experienced love.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: He's definitely gonna fall in love. I think he will too.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: That man has a big old heart, and I think
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: he has some contestants that I'm super excited to see
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: their stories uh kind of uh transform and involved in
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: front of our very eyes. Well. Hey, with that, this
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: has been another episode of the Almost Famous podcast. Yes
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: this is Matt James. Week one premiere episode will be
• 1:02:39
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• 1:02:43
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• 1:02:46
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• 1:02:50
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