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Speaker 1: 40 years after a U.S. Army soldier went missing on
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Speaker 1: this desolate Alaskan island, researchers make a startling discovery that
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Speaker 1: changes everything about that case. But before we get into
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Speaker 1: get into today's stories. On October 9, 2010, two-year-old Rowan
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Speaker 1: Griffin was in the backseat of the car next to
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Speaker 1: his two older siblings and his father was driving the car.
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Speaker 1: And they were on their way to this big family
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Speaker 1: party at Rowan's grandparents' house. They lived in Richmond, New Hampshire,
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Speaker 1: which is a pretty rural part of New Hampshire. And
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Speaker 1: their house was literally in the woods. You had to
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Speaker 1: go down this really long driveway to get to it.
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Speaker 1: And it was this single-story home where they had cleared
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Speaker 1: out all the trees in the backyard to kind of
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Speaker 1: clear a space to have these awesome cookouts for family get-togethers.
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Speaker 1: And so Rowan, his two siblings, and his dad, they
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Speaker 1: get to the entrance of the driveway that's going to
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Speaker 1: bring them up to the house. And they can already
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Speaker 1: tell there's tons of people here because there's cars lining
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Speaker 1: the driveway all the way out to the street. And
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Speaker 1: so they make their way up the driveway. And sure enough,
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Speaker 1: right in the backyard is just a sea of adults
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Speaker 1: and teenagers and kids. It's this huge family reunion. And
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Speaker 1: Rowan and his two siblings just take off running to
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Speaker 1: go play with their cousins. And so for the next
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Speaker 1: couple of hours, the kids were just running around having
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Speaker 1: a great time. And the adults are having a good time.
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Speaker 1: And at some point, the adults started to notice after
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Speaker 1: the fact, they would say they noticed this, They started
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Speaker 1: to notice Rowan was chasing a cat. There was a
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Speaker 1: cat that lived at the grandparents' house and he loved
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Speaker 1: the cat and he was chasing it all around the backyard.
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Speaker 1: And at some point, Rowan ran into the woods to
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Speaker 1: chase after this cat. And a number of adults saw
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Speaker 1: him do that, but it was like mob mentality where
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Speaker 1: they each thought somebody else was watching Rowan. They were
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Speaker 1: not trying to be negligent. They just figured there's so
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Speaker 1: many people here, you know, what can go wrong? In
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Speaker 1: a very short period of time, Mr. Griffin realizes he
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Speaker 1: can't find his son. And so he goes to the
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Speaker 1: kids and he's like, hey, have you seen Rowan? And
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Speaker 1: they're like, oh, yeah, I think he was chasing a cat.
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Speaker 1: You know, I think he was over there. And then Mr.
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Speaker 1: Griffin asked the adults and they say the same thing. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he's chasing a cat. I think he was over there.
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Speaker 1: And after looking around for him and everybody basically saying
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Speaker 1: he was chasing this cat and not being able to
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Speaker 1: find him, he just started yelling to the group. Hey,
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Speaker 1: everybody stop for a second. I can't find Rowan. You know,
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Speaker 1: everyone's telling me he's chasing a cat. Well, then can
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Speaker 1: you tell me where he went? I don't know where
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Speaker 1: he is. And pretty quickly, they realize he's not in
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Speaker 1: the house. He's not in the backyard. He's not at
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Speaker 1: the end of the driveway. He's not in any of
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Speaker 1: the cars. He's not here. And very quickly, the group
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Speaker 1: started yelling for Rowan. They're running out into the woods.
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Speaker 1: They're looking for him. And Mr. Griffin is like, I
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Speaker 1: don't know how long he's been gone for. And so
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Speaker 1: he calls 911 right then and there. He's not taking
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Speaker 1: any chances. And so the police come out and they
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Speaker 1: launch this huge search. And then all these locals in
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Speaker 1: the area that had ATVs and four-wheelers They came out
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Speaker 1: and they're driving around the forest looking for Rowan. Everybody's
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Speaker 1: yelling for him. There's hundreds of people out there. But
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Speaker 1: as the sun started to fade, they still hadn't found him.
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Speaker 1: They had found no indication of where he went. They
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Speaker 1: assumed he made it out into the forest because the
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Speaker 1: last sign of him was he was chasing a cat
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Speaker 1: into the forest potentially, but they really didn't know. And
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Speaker 1: so finally the sun does go down that night and
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Speaker 1: they have to postpone the search until first light the
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Speaker 1: next morning. And you can only imagine how horrible that
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Speaker 1: was for Rowan's parents as they're sitting inside that night
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Speaker 1: wondering what's happening to their two-year-old son who's just out
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Speaker 1: in the woods by himself. So very early the next morning,
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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of volunteers went right back out into
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Speaker 1: the woods to look for Rowan. There was this one
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Speaker 1: particular group that wanted to look a little bit farther
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Speaker 1: away than where everybody else was looking. They were going
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Speaker 1: to be about three plus miles away in the swamp.
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Speaker 1: And so this group of searchers, they start walking into
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Speaker 1: the swamp and they can tell right away that it's
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Speaker 1: a very wet and deep swamp. They would take a
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Speaker 1: step onto something that looked solid and they would sink two,
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Speaker 1: three feet into the water. They all had waders on
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Speaker 1: so they wouldn't get wet. But they were basically sludging
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Speaker 1: through the swamp, and it was very thick. And at
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Speaker 1: some point, they make their way through a clearing, and
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Speaker 1: they see on a log what looks like a pair
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Speaker 1: of children's shoes, or shoes for sure. They look small
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Speaker 1: enough to be kids. And so they wade their way over,
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Speaker 1: and they climb up onto this dry section of land,
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Speaker 1: and they walk over. And sure enough, they're kids' shoes.
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Speaker 1: And so they yell out for him a couple times,
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Speaker 1: and they stop to listen. And after a minute, they
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Speaker 1: hear him call back. He's yelling,' Here!' And they walk
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Speaker 1: their way past this huge bush and they look through
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Speaker 1: and they can't believe it. They see Rowan right in
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Speaker 1: the middle of this bog of water. There is a
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Speaker 1: tree that is right in the middle of this. And
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Speaker 1: he's clutched onto the tree. He looks dry. He looks okay.
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Speaker 1: And he's just standing on this island holding this tree.
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Speaker 1: And so immediately the searchers jump right in the water
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Speaker 1: and they start wading their way out to this island
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Speaker 1: where Rowan is. And the whole time they're going out there,
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Speaker 1: the water's up to their chest and they're looking around.
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Speaker 1: And it's at least that deep all the way around
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Speaker 1: this thing. And they're looking up at the kid and
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Speaker 1: he's bone dry and he's two years old. They don't
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Speaker 1: know if he knows how to swim or not. And
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Speaker 1: so they're thinking to themselves, how did he get out here?
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Speaker 1: But either way, they're like, let's just get the kid
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Speaker 1: and bring him back to his parents. And so they
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Speaker 1: finally hop up onto this island and they kind of
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Speaker 1: look over Rowan. He seems okay. They pick him up
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Speaker 1: and they keep him out of the water and they
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Speaker 1: bring him back to land and back to his parents. Initially,
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Speaker 1: Rowan's parents and the police and the searchers, everybody is
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Speaker 1: just so happy that Rowan is alive. That no one
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Speaker 1: is asking any questions about, you know, what happened and,
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Speaker 1: you know, what's the deal with you being found on
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Speaker 1: that island? How'd you get out there? People are just
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Speaker 1: leaving it alone. They're just happy he's here. But after
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Speaker 1: the dust had settled, so to speak, Rowan's parents would
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Speaker 1: ask him some questions. They would say, you know, what happened?
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Speaker 1: How'd you get lost? And how'd you get on that island?
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Speaker 1: And at first, Rowan was just not saying anything. But eventually,
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Speaker 1: he would say that there were cows out there. and
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Speaker 1: he said that he was scared of the cows, and
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Speaker 1: that's why he went to the island, because he wanted
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Speaker 1: to get away from the cows. Now, there were no
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Speaker 1: cows in that swamp or anywhere near where he was
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Speaker 1: that night, so either he didn't see anything and he
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Speaker 1: was hallucinating seeing animals at all, or he was mislabeling
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Speaker 1: something else that he was seeing. But whatever he was
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Speaker 1: seeing or believed he was seeing, it scared the heck
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Speaker 1: out of him, and he would get really frightened when
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Speaker 1: he would talk about these cows. But regardless of what
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Speaker 1: he saw or didn't see, the million-dollar question is, How
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Speaker 1: did he get out to that island? Because in order
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Speaker 1: to get out to that island, for him, being a two-year-old,
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Speaker 1: being the size he was, he would have had to swim.
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Speaker 1: The water was too deep all the way around the island,
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Speaker 1: and he didn't know how to swim. But even if
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Speaker 1: he had found a way to magically swim out to
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Speaker 1: this island, why wasn't he wet? It's also worth noting,
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Speaker 1: this all took place just a few miles away from
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Speaker 1: the infamous Bennington Triangle, which is this area in southern
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Speaker 1: Vermont that where there's been a whole string of people
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Speaker 1: going missing under very mysterious circumstances. In 1953, 11-year-old Jerry
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Speaker 1: Monkman was considered a very frail child. He was skinnier
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Speaker 1: than his peers, he was shorter than his peers, and
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Speaker 1: he had a really bad case of asthma, which was
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Speaker 1: a breathing condition that made doing anything physical really difficult.
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Speaker 1: But despite his perceived fragility, he loved going outside, he
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Speaker 1: loved hiking, and he was a proud member of the
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Speaker 1: Boy Scouts. And so on April 25th of that year,
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Speaker 1: Jerry was really excited when he found out his Boy
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Speaker 1: Scout troop was offering a trip to the Rocky Mountain
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Speaker 1: foothills to go camping and hiking for a weekend, and
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Speaker 1: he jumped at the opportunity. So Jerry, his troop, and
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Speaker 1: his troop leaders, they all pile in a van, and
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Speaker 1: they make their way up to the Rocky Mountains, and
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Speaker 1: as soon as they get there, they go on this
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Speaker 1: wickedly rugged hike up in the Teton Canyon, and about
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Speaker 1: an hour into their trip, One of the troop leaders
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Speaker 1: turns around, and Jerry's gone. The troop leaders did not
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Speaker 1: know how long he had been gone for, so they
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Speaker 1: only searched for a couple of minutes before one of
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Speaker 1: them ran down the mountain to try to get help.
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Speaker 1: Soon the sheriff's department arrived, and 1,600 volunteers from the
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Speaker 1: town that had heard about this, they all poured out
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Speaker 1: onto the mountain, and they are combing across this mountain
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Speaker 1: to find Jerry as quickly as possible. But after several hours,
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Speaker 1: they couldn't find him, and people started to think the worst.
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Speaker 1: And then just then, the bloodhound they brought out to
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Speaker 1: try to track his scent picked up Jerry's scent. And
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Speaker 1: it starts taking off up the trail. And the handler
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Speaker 1: of the dog tells everyone, hey, he's picked him up.
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Speaker 1: We're going to find him. We're going to find him.
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Speaker 1: And he thinks the dog's going to lead him to him,
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Speaker 1: you know, within a mile or so of where they are.
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Speaker 1: But the dog just stays in a complete beeline for
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Speaker 1: six hours. It just tracks straight north for six hours
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Speaker 1: until it comes to this big swamp where it stops. Like,
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Speaker 1: I found it. This is where it ends. This swamp
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Speaker 1: was 12 miles away from where Jerry had gone missing.
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Speaker 1: So the handler and the people that had followed this dog,
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Speaker 1: they searched the swamp because even though they thought it
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Speaker 1: was totally improbable that Jerry, this frail 11-year-old with asthma,
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Speaker 1: would have maneuvered 12 miles uphill through rugged terrain to
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Speaker 1: the swamp, they still felt like they needed to search it.
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Speaker 1: So they searched the swamp. There wasn't anything there. And
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Speaker 1: so the dog handler's thinking, okay, my dog must have
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Speaker 1: made a mistake. And so he gives the scent again
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Speaker 1: to the dog, thinking the dog will turn and start
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Speaker 1: heading back towards where Jerry had gone missing. But instead,
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Speaker 1: his dog basically just reconfirms that, nope, this is where
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Speaker 1: the scent brought me. I'm still right. And so the
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Speaker 1: dog handler and everybody else that had made this long,
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Speaker 1: treacherous 12-mile journey up to the swamp They just decided
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Speaker 1: that the dog must have made a mistake and the
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Speaker 1: kid could never have been here. The next morning at
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Speaker 1: 8 a.m., an eight-year-old boy named David was riding his
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Speaker 1: horse about 30 miles away from where Jerry had gone missing.
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Speaker 1: And he happened to be looking over at the tree
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Speaker 1: line and a boy stumbles out of the tree line
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Speaker 1: and waves to him. And so David goes over and
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Speaker 1: it turns out it's Jerry Monkman. Jerry would just tell
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Speaker 1: David that he needs to get back to his group.
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Speaker 1: And David would say, you know, what are you doing
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Speaker 1: out here? And Jerry just said, I don't really know.
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Speaker 1: I just, I need to get back to my group.
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Speaker 1: I was with a group yesterday and I need to
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Speaker 1: get back to them. And apparently David asked him, well,
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Speaker 1: how did you get here if you were with them yesterday?
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Speaker 1: And all Jerry could say was, I fell asleep under
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Speaker 1: a tree. I don't know. When word got back to
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Speaker 1: the searchers that they had found Jerry and they had
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Speaker 1: found him 30 miles away, they couldn't believe it. The
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Speaker 1: day before, it had been unbelievable that he could have
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Speaker 1: traveled 12 miles to that swamp. Like, literally unbelievable. They
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Speaker 1: didn't believe it. Nope, he couldn't have done it. And now, clearly,
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Speaker 1: he's traveled at least 30 miles to have been found
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Speaker 1: by David where he was found. And that's 30 miles
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Speaker 1: as the crow flies, meaning overhead air miles 30 miles.
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Speaker 1: The reality is, is when you're walking in the wilderness,
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Speaker 1: you don't walk in straight lines. You make turns and
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Speaker 1: you go left, there's switchbacks. And the area he must
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Speaker 1: have gone through over those 30 miles is all unmarked.
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Speaker 1: It's this rugged, hilly, awful, unmarked terrain. So for sure,
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Speaker 1: he probably covered 40 plus miles to get there. And
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Speaker 1: so the police asked him, how did you do this?
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Speaker 1: How did you cover the distance you covered in such
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Speaker 1: a short amount of time? And Jerry would say he
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Speaker 1: just remembers sleeping under a tree and then waking up
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Speaker 1: and he would see animals poking their heads around from
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Speaker 1: behind different trees. And he didn't know what kind of
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Speaker 1: animals they were. but they were watching him and he
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Speaker 1: was worried they were going to hurt him, but they didn't.
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Speaker 1: And he said he was able to just keep walking
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Speaker 1: and he would keep sleeping under these trees. And he
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Speaker 1: kept seeing these animals that were watching him. And he
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Speaker 1: just kept saying, they never hurt me. They never hurt me.
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Speaker 1: And so obviously this did not answer any of the
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Speaker 1: questions that the investigators were looking to answer. And they
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Speaker 1: just felt like, okay, maybe he's in shock and we
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Speaker 1: can ask him at another time. But the theory became like, well,
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Speaker 1: then he must have been abducted to have covered this distance.
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Speaker 1: But that begs the question, who's capable of moving an
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Speaker 1: 11-year-old that much distance in such a short amount of time?
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Speaker 1: We're talking about a 30-hour window moving potentially 50-plus miles
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Speaker 1: lugging an 11-year-old around. And then even if there was
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Speaker 1: someone or something that was capable of lifting up an
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Speaker 1: 11-year-old and maneuvering them that much distance in such a
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Speaker 1: short amount of time, well, to what end? Why would
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Speaker 1: they do that? Why was Jerry then maneuvered to the
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Speaker 1: swamp and then maneuvered to where he was found? It
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Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. One of the most remote places
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Speaker 1: in the world is Bull Deer Island in Alaska. It's
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Speaker 1: two-thirds of the way to Russia along the Aleutian chain
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Speaker 1: of islands. The nearest inhabited island is about 50 miles away.
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Speaker 1: The weather on Bull Deer Island is pretty brutal, especially
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Speaker 1: during the winter, and there's no electricity there. In 1944,
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Speaker 1: the United States Army decided they wanted to send five
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Speaker 1: of their soldiers to monitor the weather station on Bull
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Speaker 1: Deer Island. That was like the one thing the island
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Speaker 1: was used for. And so one of the people that
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Speaker 1: was sent on this assignment was a guy by the
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Speaker 1: name of Bud Houston. Bud was born in Wisconsin and
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Speaker 1: worked in a shipyard before enlisting in the Army in 1942.
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Speaker 1: He was a big hunter and outdoorsman, and so the prospect...
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Speaker 1: of living on this kind of desolate Alaskan island really
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Speaker 1: appealed to him and he was excited about the assignment.
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Speaker 1: In October of that year, Bud was flown out to
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Speaker 1: Baldir Island and he met with the other four soldiers
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Speaker 1: that were going to be living on the island with him.
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Speaker 1: It was going to be those five on the island,
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Speaker 1: no one else is there. And they quickly learned their
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Speaker 1: job of monitoring the weather station was a very low
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Speaker 1: effort job. And so they could do all of their
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Speaker 1: tasks over the course of the day pretty easily. And
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Speaker 1: it freed up a lot of time for them to
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Speaker 1: explore the island. And that would actually become their favorite
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Speaker 1: pastime because there really wasn't much else to do there
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Speaker 1: except explore the island. And so very quickly, they became
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Speaker 1: very familiar with the whole island because it wasn't that big.
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Speaker 1: It was about maybe two and a half miles wide
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Speaker 1: by four and a half miles long. On March 3rd, 1945,
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Speaker 1: so five months after they've arrived on Boldeer Island. So
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Speaker 1: by now they know every square inch of the island.
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Speaker 1: They're very comfortable here. They had to do a routine
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Speaker 1: patrol around the weather station. This was something they did
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Speaker 1: multiple times a week, so very routine. And all five
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Speaker 1: of them are sitting in the weather station and Bud
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Speaker 1: says he'll do it. So Bud gets his rifle and
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Speaker 1: he heads outside to do this patrol. And the other
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Speaker 1: four are just sitting in the weather station. And after
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Speaker 1: about an hour, they realize Bud hasn't come back yet.
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Speaker 1: And this patrol does not take more than 20 minutes.
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Speaker 1: And so they step outside to see if he's out there.
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Speaker 1: And the weather at the time was very mild. You know,
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Speaker 1: there's no snow on the ground. It's not very cold.
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Speaker 1: It's not very windy. And the visibility this night was
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Speaker 1: pretty good. And so they're looking out over the island
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Speaker 1: and the island has no trees. At the very far end,
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Speaker 1: at the opposite end of where the weather station is,
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Speaker 1: there's one significant sized mountain. But short of that, it's
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Speaker 1: not particularly mountainous. So from their perspective, they could look
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Speaker 1: out over the island and basically see everything. And they
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Speaker 1: don't see him anywhere. At first, they were not that
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Speaker 1: worried about it because they figure, you know what? He
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Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. He's been here so long. He's
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Speaker 1: probably just out exploring or something. But they decided they
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Speaker 1: would go look for him. They go down to the water.
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Speaker 1: He's not down there. They walk all around the far
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Speaker 1: side of the island. They can't find him. And so
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Speaker 1: by the time they get back to the weather station,
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Speaker 1: they were like, we have to tell the command that
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Speaker 1: we've lost him. So they radio back to higher command
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Speaker 1: and they say, we don't know where he went. He
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Speaker 1: went out on patrol and we didn't hear anything. And
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Speaker 1: now he's gone. And so a whole bunch of reinforcements
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Speaker 1: came out to the island to look on foot with
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Speaker 1: the other four soldiers. as well as planes and helicopters.
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Speaker 1: And for two days, they looked all over that island
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Speaker 1: for Bud and they couldn't find him. And you got
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Speaker 1: to remember that there's very few places you could possibly
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Speaker 1: even go on the island that they wouldn't be able
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Speaker 1: to look and see you. And so everyone started to
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Speaker 1: think he must have jumped into the water or fallen
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Speaker 1: into the water because there's nowhere for him to hide
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Speaker 1: on the island. And so after a couple of days,
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Speaker 1: they were so sure that it was just not possible
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Speaker 1: for him to be on the island. that they called
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Speaker 1: the search off and they said he must have fallen
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Speaker 1: into the water. Fast forward 40 years to 1988 and
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Speaker 1: the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service was studying birds on
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Speaker 1: Bull Deer Island and they made this amazing discovery. This
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Speaker 1: crew had set up their camp at 1,600 feet of
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Speaker 1: elevation on the one large mountain on the far side
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Speaker 1: of the island, basically on the opposite end of the
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Speaker 1: island from the weather station. And one of the crew
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Speaker 1: members happened to just walk around one of the boulders.
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Speaker 1: And they looked down and there was this little tiny
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Speaker 1: crevice between the boulder and the ground. And he thought
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Speaker 1: he saw something inside of it. And he got down
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Speaker 1: and he looked and he realized there was a skeleton
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Speaker 1: that had been kind of crammed into this tiny little
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Speaker 1: tight space. And the skeleton had a military uniform on.
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Speaker 1: It had been kind of balled up. but there was
16:35
Speaker 1: a uniform on what was left of the skeleton and
16:38
Speaker 1: there was also a rifle that had been jammed down
16:40
Speaker 1: in there as well. And it would turn out to
16:41
Speaker 1: be Bud Houston. So why did Bud say he was
16:44
Speaker 1: gonna go outside and do that patrol, which really just
16:46
Speaker 1: meant walking around the immediate vicinity of the weather station?
16:49
Speaker 1: You're certainly not traveling very far. Why did he say
16:52
Speaker 1: he was gonna do that and then walk four and
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Speaker 1: a half miles to the other end of the island
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Speaker 1: and then climb up 1,500 feet to the top of
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Speaker 1: this mountain? But even if he had a reason to
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Speaker 1: be over there, why would he then, force himself into
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Speaker 1: this little tiny crevice. If he was looking for shelter,
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Speaker 1: while the weather was incredibly mild, it would not have
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Speaker 1: been life-threatening to be out in the elements, at least
17:14
Speaker 1: not that first night or even that second night. And
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Speaker 1: he knows the island like the back of his hand.
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Speaker 1: He probably had a little bit more time. He probably
17:22
Speaker 1: could have found a better place for shelter than this
17:25
Speaker 1: awful little crevice. But if he was at a place
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Speaker 1: where he was seeking shelter under these boulders instead of
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Speaker 1: just walking back to the weather station and getting real shelter...
17:34
Speaker 1: And he had to have been in an emergency situation.
17:36
Speaker 1: That's the only way that makes sense. But if he
17:39
Speaker 1: was in an emergency situation, he would know that his
17:42
Speaker 1: responsibility is not just to survive. It's also to be
17:45
Speaker 1: found again and to make sure you're not obscured underneath
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Speaker 1: a boulder so no one can find you. This island,
17:52
Speaker 1: it was like the easiest place to be found. There's
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Speaker 1: no trees. There was helicopters overhead and planes. And there's
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Speaker 1: all these people. It's a small space. All he had
17:59
Speaker 1: to do was not be under the boulder 24-7. Maybe
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Speaker 1: during the day when the weather let up, roll out
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Speaker 1: from under the boulder, let yourself be found. But that's
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Speaker 1: not what happened. What probably happened is Bud somehow got
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Speaker 1: crammed into that little tiny crevice almost immediately after he
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Speaker 1: left the weather station to do that patrol. But logically speaking,
18:21
Speaker 1: he would not do that to himself. So someone else
18:24
Speaker 1: had to do it. But all the other people on
18:26
Speaker 1: the island were in the weather station at the time
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Speaker 1: this would have been happening. So it really makes you wonder,
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Speaker 1: What happened when he walked outside of that weather station?
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Speaker 1: Who or what did he see and what did they
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