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5-27-26 Hour 3 - The Avs exit broke Brett's brain/LOC summed up the Avs issues/Most painful playoff exit · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: That is empty for the Avalanche.
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  Speaker 3: Blackman on the bench. Nature's a shot that scar dip.
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  Speaker 3: Then there's hope after all. I think it's brock Nelson
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  Speaker 3: in front along with Landeskog two O three to go
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  Speaker 3: in the third period. Landeskog, I think is gonna get
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  Speaker 3: his third goal of the series, and the Avalanche are
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  Speaker 3: within one with two minutes to go in Game four,
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  Speaker 3: the Car.
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  Speaker 2: At the Bloome line.
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  Speaker 4: He's got to get it across center ice. Landeskog can't
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  Speaker 4: get a deep Vegas pack with it. They played off
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  Speaker 4: the bench for the Avalanche. The Car sends it ahead
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  Speaker 4: two seconds one, and the Avalanche season is done. For
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  Speaker 4: the first time since two thousand and eight, Colorado is swept.
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  Speaker 5: In a playoff serious and the Cup favorites.
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  Speaker 1: Have been eliminated.
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  Speaker 2: Final score in Game four of the.
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  Speaker 4: Western Conference Final the Golden Knights.
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  Speaker 2: Too and the Avalanche on.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, humility is certainly a word you can use
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  Speaker 6: for it. I think that's that's sports in general. I
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  Speaker 6: think you're you're going to run into that a lot
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  Speaker 6: on any given day, on any given year, and especially
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  Speaker 6: in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 5: Right, So.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, losing socks and losing four straight is worse and
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  Speaker 6: losing I think the further you go, the worse it gets.
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  Speaker 5: For me.
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  Speaker 7: I'm I'm I'm kind of mentally busted today, and I'm
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  Speaker 7: I'm dead serious when I say this. This is going
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  Speaker 7: to be an emotional scar that is going to live
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  Speaker 7: on for.
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  Speaker 8: A long time with me.
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  Speaker 7: This series, after what I witnessed in the previous ninety
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  Speaker 7: one games, has shaken my faith in my confidence, in
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  Speaker 7: my ability to trust my eyeballs in assessing what I
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  Speaker 7: believe is a championship caliber stuff and not. I am
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  Speaker 7: so broken at the idea that I never in a
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  Speaker 7: million years would have foreseen this result, the Avs losing
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  Speaker 7: this series. Sure Vegas is a good team, they get
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  Speaker 7: some bounces, they win in six or seven games. I
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  Speaker 7: a sweep never entered the equation. And it's like, I'm
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  Speaker 7: in a marriage of thirty years and I just found
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  Speaker 7: out my wife's been cheating on me for ten of them,
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  Speaker 7: and I'm just like, how am I going to trust anything?
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  Speaker 9: Ever again, Brett, let me give you a little historical anecdote.
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  Speaker 2: To help soothe your ills.
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  Speaker 9: Okay, Truck, how do you trust a team as a
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  Speaker 9: sports fan? The team that at times has betrayed your trust,
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  Speaker 9: forsaken you, hurt you to your core. In the eighties
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  Speaker 9: and late seventies, we and Denver were big Bronco fans
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  Speaker 9: because the Broncos are on the cusp. They lost that
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  Speaker 9: seventy seven Super Bowl because it kept turning the ball over.
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  Speaker 2: Elways showed up for Super.
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  Speaker 9: Bowl appearance, lost second Super Bowl appearance, blown out, blow.
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl appearance, Vick with a D with Player ninety six, Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 9: At home, nothing butf God, nothing but it.
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  Speaker 5: I remember returned to the Super Bowl game. Oh my god.
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  Speaker 9: They returned to the super Bowl for Super Bowl thirty
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  Speaker 9: two and they're double digit underdogs.
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  Speaker 2: Thirteen point underdogs.
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  Speaker 9: I believe against Green Bay. And I remember a story
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  Speaker 9: John Elway relaying saying, even his mother said, do you
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  Speaker 9: have to go back to the Super Bowl? His own
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  Speaker 9: mother said that because the trust at that point, Brett
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  Speaker 9: was gone.
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  Speaker 2: It was, it's already betrayed.
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  Speaker 9: It's like, how many times are you gonna get to
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  Speaker 9: the mountaintop and let us down. That's what it felt like, yeah,
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  Speaker 9: being a Broncos fan.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm here to tell you. I'm here to tell
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  Speaker 2: you the.
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  Speaker 9: Feeling when you regain that trust, because they got it
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  Speaker 9: in that one of the best upsets in Super Bowl history.
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  Speaker 2: They got it back.
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  Speaker 9: And then won the following year and then one years later.
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  Speaker 9: When you regain it, that supersedes the lack of it.
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  Speaker 2: It does.
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  Speaker 9: It'll come back, It will, it will come back the
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  Speaker 9: trust will?
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  Speaker 2: I know you don't see it now.
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  Speaker 7: If the Abs go eighty two and oh next year,
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  Speaker 7: sweep the first two rounds of the playoffs and they
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  Speaker 7: start at the Western Conference finals, I am going to say,
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  Speaker 7: I don't know if win this series.
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  Speaker 9: And That's where I'm at right now. Well, right now
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  Speaker 9: you want yeah, I totally get it. Okay, we had
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  Speaker 9: the same Bronco fans go back with it. You had
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  Speaker 9: the same feeling. All right, super Bowl again, Crap, how
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  Speaker 9: are we gonna lose this one?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? Uh, it's just the the boys. We also know this. Vic,
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  Speaker 5: you know this, Brett, you know this. Fans deep down
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  Speaker 5: know this too. Teams like this, the quality of this
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  Speaker 5: hockey club, it doesn't last forever. The quality of that
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  Speaker 5: football team doesn't last forever. Hell, look at the Denver Nuggets.
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  Speaker 5: This is the conversation I have with Johnny Lyles to
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  Speaker 5: last night walking back. You know, it doesn't last forever,
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  Speaker 5: and so you've got to maximize while you have it.
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  Speaker 5: And what happened to the Nuggets, you know with Connor Goes,
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  Speaker 5: you know, we're talking about I guess the attrition and
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  Speaker 5: you know, the Olympics and everything else and getting back
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  Speaker 5: to it, and you know, maybe you don't go balls
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  Speaker 5: to the wall to try to get that President's Trophy
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  Speaker 5: at home ice. You know, you save some and you
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  Speaker 5: know we're all hypothetical here. I said, yeah, but it's
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  Speaker 5: like the Nuggets now. I mean, you win a championship
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  Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, friggin ok C is there,
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  Speaker 5: and friggin san Antonio is there, and friggin Mini is
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  Speaker 5: always there, and there's gonna be another frigging somebody that
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  Speaker 5: friggin you know comes up and is good, he knows good,
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  Speaker 5: and and that's when your window starts to tighten and
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  Speaker 5: close it. I'm thinking to myself, man, next year, the
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  Speaker 5: Minnesota Wild are gonna be there again. Dude, Let's say
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  Speaker 5: you finished second of the division, so your reward is
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  Speaker 5: what playing Many or Dallas in the first round again
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  Speaker 5: and banging your head against that friggin wall. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: it's like god mother trucker. But and I not that
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  Speaker 5: you want not that you want the easy route all
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  Speaker 5: the time. Boys, I'm saying, but I just feel like,
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  Speaker 5: especially I don't know, in this division, this conference, the
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  Speaker 5: war of Pnetrician is significant. It's hard, man. Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: The issue that I have is.
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  Speaker 7: The Aves were so good this year and Vegas wasn't okay, see,
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  Speaker 7: and Vegas wasn't Spurs like they're good. I fully acknowledged
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  Speaker 7: they're good, but they weren't seen as this giant impediment.
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  Speaker 7: I heard national people going into this series, both of
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  Speaker 7: them in the Western and Eastern Conference final, saying, well,
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  Speaker 7: it's gonna be the Aves and the Canes.
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  Speaker 8: Maybe the Canes can give the Aves a run. Like
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  Speaker 8: that was the entire narrative from.
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  Speaker 7: People outside of the respective local media's in Carolina.
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  Speaker 9: And here there was a moment we thought the Abs
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  Speaker 9: would play Vegas in the first round because Vegas was
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  Speaker 9: barely hanging on.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah you remember that, Yeah, and you know, and you
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  Speaker 5: know what though, and if you but but again, the
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  Speaker 5: Mammoth took them to six. The Ducks took them to six.
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  Speaker 5: Are are the Abs worse than the Ducks of the Mammoth?
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  Speaker 5: If the Abs played the Ducks of the Mammoth, what
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  Speaker 5: would they do?
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  Speaker 2: They'd beat them both. I mean, it's just they beat
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  Speaker 2: their asses.
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  Speaker 5: No, right, So people, what I'm saying, because they're getting
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  Speaker 5: this Vegas team is getting stronger as this thing goes on,
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  Speaker 5: even better.
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  Speaker 9: Yes, Vegas is to the Avs what the Tea Wolves
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  Speaker 9: are to the Nuggets.
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  Speaker 7: Let's get a call from Alex, who's been waiting almost
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  Speaker 7: an hour. Go ahead, Alex, thank you for being patient.
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  Speaker 10: Hey, no worries, guys, Hey, just heads up. I'm a
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  Speaker 10: big Avs fan, altitude fan, no doubt about it, season
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  Speaker 10: ticket holder from twenty two, and a minor league fan
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  Speaker 10: from Toledo, Rochester, Syracuse. What I think happened was they
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  Speaker 10: kind of got caught in a coaching philosophy where the
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  Speaker 10: Abs are a team that does shots, And what happened
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  Speaker 10: is because they had a hot goaltender, they got to
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  Speaker 10: the pucks on nets philosophy. The Knights saw it coming
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  Speaker 10: every time they got into that opportunity to take a
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  Speaker 10: shot versus a puck on net. The Knights had four
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  Speaker 10: to five guys in front of the net, at least
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  Speaker 10: three to four. It's the Knights saw it coming and
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  Speaker 10: the Abs really didn't have a response. And the defense
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  Speaker 10: that the Knight's put in front of them, how many
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  Speaker 10: blocks did they have?
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  Speaker 9: So do you think that's a personnel issue or a
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  Speaker 9: strategic tissue.
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  Speaker 10: I think it's a coaching philosophy that's pervasive in the league.
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  Speaker 10: If you've got a young goaltender and they're out of
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  Speaker 10: a hot streak, what do you try to do? You
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  Speaker 10: try to get one end okay, shake his confidence, try
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  Speaker 10: to get the second one in, shake his confidence a
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  Speaker 10: little at that point, then then tucks on network. But
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  Speaker 10: the Abs are a shots team, they're a skills team.
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  Speaker 10: Talks on net. Especially with the Knights, again, they saw
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  Speaker 10: this coming. And consistency. If you look back at the video,
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  Speaker 10: they almost always had three guys in front of the net.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah they did, thanks they did.
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  Speaker 5: And but if it was just that easy, then everyone
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  Speaker 5: would always do it against the Avalanche. But it's not.
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  Speaker 5: You've got the commitment you have to have and the
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  Speaker 5: sacrifices you have to make to play that style and
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  Speaker 5: have everybody go to the house. It's frustrating to watch.
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  Speaker 5: I mean it is. It's not pleasant, it's not pretty
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  Speaker 5: to have all these guys just you've got this big
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  Speaker 5: golden wall around the goalie. Right. And then even when
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  Speaker 5: when and dude did cough up some rebounds in this series,
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  Speaker 5: I mean he wasn't always just tight on the puck.
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  Speaker 5: I mean he coughs some things up, He kicked some
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  Speaker 5: things around a little.
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  Speaker 2: Bits, couldn't finish it.
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  Speaker 5: You just you just yeah, you just couldn't get to it.
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  Speaker 5: And again, part of it too is the way. Part
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  Speaker 5: of it is the way that that Vegas played in
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  Speaker 5: front of their goaltender. Uh So it's much more nuanced
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  Speaker 5: than that. But I think he makes a very good
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  Speaker 5: point that that's what that's the style they employed. And
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  Speaker 5: the other a big thing. The ads are a play
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  Speaker 5: I'm the lead type of team. They are play with
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  Speaker 5: the lead team. And it's frustrating as hell when teams
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  Speaker 5: get a lead on you and they aren't as skilled
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  Speaker 5: as you, because they will go and they will go
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  Speaker 5: to their house and they will lock the front door,
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  Speaker 5: and it sucks it's ugly hockey. But you know what
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  Speaker 5: Tortorella said last night. He goes, Look, this is the
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  Speaker 5: best checking game we've had since I've been here. He goes, best,
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  Speaker 5: this is the best check he said, I'm not talking
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  Speaker 5: about blowing guys up and bodies on bodies, just being
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  Speaker 5: above the puck, checking your man responsibility. He goes, this
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  Speaker 5: is the most disciplined. This is the best game we've
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  Speaker 5: had since I've been here. And he said more things
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  Speaker 5: about Bednar and the coaching staff. So if you think
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  Speaker 5: Tortorella is an absolute genius right now, maybe you don't.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe you think they got fortunate or they found this,
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  Speaker 5: you know, Genie in a bottle, whatever it is. He
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  Speaker 5: had some things to say about Bednar and this staff.
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  Speaker 5: I'm curious to whether you guys believe him or not.
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  Speaker 5: Is it on the board yet, Nelly? Is it on?
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  Speaker 11: Then that's a hell of a hockey team. We played
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  Speaker 11: over there, and I know people crawling up Bedsy's ass
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  Speaker 11: about this that he is one hell of a coach.
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  Speaker 11: He's got a great staff there. I was very nervous.
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  Speaker 11: We we knew how we had to play because it's
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  Speaker 11: such a potent team and I thought we I thought
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  Speaker 11: it was our best game. Uh so, and again I
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  Speaker 11: want to from Joe right on down, that's a great organization,
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  Speaker 11: that's a great team. We found our way, and I
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  Speaker 11: think Bezzy said it the right way there. It was
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  Speaker 11: such a close series. We just found our way to
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  Speaker 11: make another play. I have a tremendous respect for for
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  Speaker 11: Bedsy and that staff and that organization.
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  Speaker 5: And sometimes it's nothing, it's nothing more than that they
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  Speaker 5: found a way to make one more play.
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  Speaker 9: Listen, I get with towards the saying there, but what
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  Speaker 9: what did you expect him to say? Oh, they're trash,
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  Speaker 9: we just beat a trash team. That was easy. I
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  Speaker 9: mean that nothing he said a surprise.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, But he didn't. I mean he could have
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  Speaker 5: said nothing. I suppose you know, class guy, you know Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 5: so the so is he lying? Then?
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  Speaker 9: I think I think we all know what's it. I
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  Speaker 9: think we all understand. We've talked for three hours about
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  Speaker 9: what we know about bed Zine, the organization.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the organization has been.
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  Speaker 9: At top of the hockey food chain. Okay, I think
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  Speaker 9: we all know what this organization is. We've seen it,
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  Speaker 9: we've talked about it. It just ended badly. I don't
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  Speaker 9: need somebody telling me that we see it.
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  Speaker 5: We live it.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, we've lived it all year.
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  Speaker 9: It ended in a baffling fashion. Uh you mean hell,
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  Speaker 9: hell the respect that torts were saying it, but being
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  Speaker 9: insane thing we didn't know.
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  Speaker 7: Well, there's a quote that I think sums up really
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  Speaker 7: what happened this entire series in about four sentences that
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  Speaker 7: I will get to in just a couple of minutes.
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  Speaker 5: Moshall, Lombardi and Kane. I'll be exiting since City today
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  Speaker 5: and coming home back in studio tomorrow with the boys.
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  Speaker 5: Can't wait to see you. That's the positive part. Get
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  Speaker 5: back to your family and get back to the world.
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  Speaker 5: I guess if I don't ask this question out of
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  Speaker 5: both of you, though, I will never ever have it
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  Speaker 5: come back to me because I'll forget. I'm never not
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  Speaker 5: amazed at my ability to mess up a hotel room
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  Speaker 5: over the course of four days. Trashed bright Yeah, well
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  Speaker 5: it's not no it's not trash, it's stuff, you know,
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  Speaker 5: just stuff. When you know I had a chicken parm
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  Speaker 5: sandwich yesterday. Stuff when you go to on your one
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  Speaker 5: of your little excursions, you're binges to Mexico after four
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  Speaker 5: or five days, how's that room look looks great?
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  Speaker 7: I'm respectful to the people that take care of my
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  Speaker 7: hotel too.
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  Speaker 2: I always clean up.
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  Speaker 8: I care about the work that other people do, and
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  Speaker 8: I try and make it easier.
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  Speaker 9: As a from from a family of lifelong custodians and janitors,
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  Speaker 9: I make sure not to lead anything out of place.
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  Speaker 2: To add to extra one I do.
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  Speaker 5: I mean I always. I I clean my room and
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  Speaker 5: I make my bed before I leave, which is probably
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  Speaker 5: dumb because she's just gonna rip the bed, you know,
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  Speaker 5: whoever's just gonna rip the better part. Anyway.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm more respectful. I can't more service workers than
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  Speaker 8: you are.
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  Speaker 5: I guess I did spill a little chue spit on
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  Speaker 5: my bedspread.
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  Speaker 9: I feel bad about that, but that is just see
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  Speaker 9: therein What would would you agree, Kana.
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  Speaker 2: That Mosure's the grossest of the lot here?
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  Speaker 9: Oh for sure, Sorry emotion, no offense.
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  Speaker 2: No question.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I know you're I know you're trim, you're prim
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  Speaker 5: and proper and all that. I get it. That's all
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  Speaker 5: I wanted to say. I just if I didn't ask
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  Speaker 5: it now to ask it is that this.
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  Speaker 8: Is the quote I wanted to go back to. If
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  Speaker 8: you guys missed it. I I do feel as if.
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  Speaker 7: Logan O'Connor was one of the most consistent players throughout
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  Speaker 7: this series on the ice. Now, he's a depth guy,
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  Speaker 7: he's a kind of grit, the work hard, give it
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  Speaker 7: one hundred percent every second I'm out there, and he
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  Speaker 7: did exactly what his job entitled him to do. But
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  Speaker 7: when asked what went wrong after the game, I think
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  Speaker 7: this concise response is as good of an answer as
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  Speaker 7: you're gonna get, which is.
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  Speaker 8: It happened fast.
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  Speaker 7: I think we let games two and three slip away
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  Speaker 7: super uncharacteristic from our group to give up leads like that,
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  Speaker 7: especially in consecutive games. We drifted away from the game plan.
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  Speaker 7: They made us pay. They were opportunistic off mistakes, and
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  Speaker 7: like I mentioned, I don't think a single guy in
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  Speaker 7: this locker room played to the standards that we expect.
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  Speaker 7: And I think that all of that is about as
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  Speaker 7: concise of a summation as you're gonna make about all
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  Speaker 7: the things that went wrong. One, you'll let games two
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  Speaker 7: and three slip away. You had a one nothing lead,
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  Speaker 7: you carried that from the first period of midway through
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  Speaker 7: the third and Game two that disappeared cam Hibbs three
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  Speaker 7: nothing lead to start the game. In Game three in
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  Speaker 7: the first period, you let that one's the way comprehensible.
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  Speaker 7: To do that in consecutive games is completely uncharacteristic from
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  Speaker 7: what we've seen from this team over the course of
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  Speaker 7: this year. Then you got a little bit panicky, you
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  Speaker 7: drifted away from the game plan. They made you pay
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  Speaker 7: Vegas opportunistic off mistakes that showed itself in each game
• 17:24
  Speaker 7: this series. And the most important part, not a single
• 17:30
  Speaker 7: guy in this locker room played to the standards we expect.
• 17:33
  Speaker 7: I don't think that that's the case. There was a
• 17:36
  Speaker 7: few guys who I think did I think he was,
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: And one of them I thought Landy did his I mean,
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: he had almost half your goals in this But to
• 17:46
  Speaker 7: the case of the guys that you need to lean
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: on when the games matter most, your top guys, most
• 17:56
  Speaker 7: of them did not play up to that standard.
• 17:59
  Speaker 8: And that's it sucks.
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: And you look at guys like Nate who had no
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: goals in four games, Nachis who had no goals in
• 18:06
  Speaker 7: four games, Val who had no goals in three games,
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: Rock Nelson who had no goals in four games. Devon
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: Taves looked like he was off defensively. Josh Manson didn't
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: have a great series. Malensky was pretty damn awful through
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: these four games.
• 18:24
  Speaker 8: Like all the guys that you rely upon.
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: Guys are dealing with stuff too. Nobody wants to hear that.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: I don't I get out. I've been saying that a
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: lot this morning. It'll all come out in the future.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: Maybe it'll help understand a little bit more is to.
• 18:39
  Speaker 8: You can only judge people by their play.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean. Agreed, absolutely, absolutely agreed. But
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: I think things can be mitigated, even in the slightest bit,
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: once you have more information. That's all I'm saying. No excuse,
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: no nothing. Everything you said, Brett is right. I ask
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: you guys a question. Are teams going to have to
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: just philosophies now when it comes to the postseason and
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: perhaps going into the later rounds of the postseason. I
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: think maybe that's where the league is going, because when
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: you look at after they change the playoff format right
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: and the way it is right now, the way the
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: playoff formats worked out. In twenty nineteen, the Boston Bruins
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: won a conference final in four games. Twenty twenty, the
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: Avs won against Edmonton in four games, twenty three Florida
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: one in four games twenty five. Both series ended in
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: five games conference finals, and now another four game series
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: in this conference final. What's the cause of that? What's
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: the cause of all of these sweeps or near sweeps
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: in conference final games in the last seven years.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: Coincidence could be or or is it that some really
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: good teams are no matter what the series looks like
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: they were getting their asses kicked, even if they win
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: a series, and there's not a whole lot left because
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: of the way the formats worked out with a lot
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: of times too, really of the best teams facing off
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: in the first round of the second round, no matter what. Well.
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: I here's the thing, though, mos when talking about that
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: in specifics to the Avs, and I understand the point
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: you're trying to make.
• 20:24
  Speaker 8: You didn't Gond.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: I'm just I don't, I don't have I don't have
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: an answer this I'm curious.
• 20:28
  Speaker 8: No, No, I get it.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: The Avs didn't grind out two seven game series leading
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: into this. They finished them almost as quickly as you could,
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: which is nine games.
• 20:40
  Speaker 8: And outside of what Carolina, who did that?
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: The first team was the first team and god knows
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: how long to sweep the first two rounds of the series.
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: Maybe ever, maybe ever?
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it. I think it actually is. I
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: think they're the first team to ever do that. The
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: rest or fatigue or whatever thing I just don't think
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: applies in this. Maybe I'll keep going back to it.
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: They're just felt something mentally off with the Avs. The
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: Avs when they're up three to nothing and they give
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: up a power play goal in Game three and they're
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: up three to one, that should be like, oh well,
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: who cares? And it felt soul crushing to them. Yeah,
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: the vibe shifted. That's not a physical thing. That's not fatigue.
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: That's something upstairs.
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: Game two, you got a one nothing lead, But okay,
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: so it's one one big deal. The highest scoring team
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: in the league, top ten season of all time in
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: the history of the game. Yeah, regular season busted up
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: LA Round one. Although it was difficult two to one
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: two one. I mean tight games to start things out.
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: You take care of one of the other best teams
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: in the National Hockey League, Minnesota in round two, and
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: then this it's inexplicable, dudes, Yes, it's an I have
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: no rhyme reason or anything. I don't think that you
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: could get You could get a team of guys at MIT,
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: gals at MIT try to work it out. I don't
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: think they could.
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: We got another guy's been waiting for close to an hour.
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: Let's get to Dave, who's been waiting patiently.
• 22:24
  Speaker 8: Thank you for waiting, Dave. Go ahead.
• 22:26
  Speaker 12: Hey, guys, how you doing good?
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: Note not great?
• 22:29
  Speaker 12: Yeah, Hey, you got the guy in town. You got
• 22:32
  Speaker 12: Dave Carl his brother played in the league for twelve years.
• 22:36
  Speaker 12: He is the voice of American hockey right now. If
• 22:38
  Speaker 12: you looked at the World Junior this year, Bob Moscow
• 22:41
  Speaker 12: went out there and they got run out of that tournament.
• 22:44
  Speaker 12: Two years previously you won it. He's the he's the
• 22:47
  Speaker 12: best young mind in hockey. You might just need different
• 22:50
  Speaker 12: voices in there. For me, that's that's what I look at.
• 22:54
  Speaker 12: You just mentioned Noban O'Connor. He's a product of that
• 22:58
  Speaker 12: du system. You know, well, it's all about the team.
• 23:02
  Speaker 12: It's all about winning. We have no other team in
• 23:05
  Speaker 12: this town that has a dynasty like them, eleven national championships,
• 23:10
  Speaker 12: and they don't go after the five star guys like
• 23:12
  Speaker 12: Michigan or Penn State. I saw Dave Carl at the
• 23:16
  Speaker 12: end of the tournament. We pick our guys, We go
• 23:18
  Speaker 12: what we believe, and that's what I kind of believe
• 23:21
  Speaker 12: that's missing over at the Apps. You know, we need development.
• 23:25
  Speaker 12: I mean, I think Chris McFarlane, he whipped on Blankenberg.
• 23:29
  Speaker 12: You can't bring in one hundred and sixty five pound
• 23:32
  Speaker 12: guy in the in the playoffs. He was getting he
• 23:34
  Speaker 12: was getting malled that you brought him out there. Yeah,
• 23:40
  Speaker 12: you know you got a chance A body type.
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: All right, Dave, thanks with the call, man, appreciate it.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: I dig what you see. I think what you're saying, Dave.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: I think David Carl is a brilliant coach, certainly at
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: the college level and the junior level. He's a brilliant coach.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: When you've got you know, kids twenty two and under,
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: you know you're able to mold those young minds. And
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: it's it's different, though than being a national Hockey League
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: head coach. And I'm not saying that Davey Carl wouldn't
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: come in with whomever and win a Stanley Cup the
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: first year. Maybe he would. I'm just saying it's a
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: different game, and you have grown men with grown families
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: and grown contracts and grown powers and grown this and
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: grown that. It's it's it's completely different. And I love
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: those to you kids.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Hell.
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: I ran into them at the at the Bar of
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: du a couple of days after they won the Natty
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: and had beers with them and they got a great
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: picture of me with the National Champion Jim Trophy. But
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: that's what they are, man, there kids, right, And so
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: he maybe he'd be great. I don't know, but that
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't just look at that and say, Okay, that's
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: the that's the fixed all or or you know what,
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: you know, why not try it? Okay, fine, I mean
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: I dig that You're still in your window. And so
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: these have to be calculated. It has to be really
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: smart decisions. And the last thing, Vick, you said it earlier,
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: if David Carr wanted to be in the NHL, he
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: would be in it right the second.
• 25:08
  Speaker 9: I mean, he'd he'd have a job pretty much any
• 25:13
  Speaker 9: job that came open, I guarantee his name was inconsideration.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: He'd have a job. Hey mos.
• 25:22
  Speaker 9: I've had a lot of people reach out to me
• 25:24
  Speaker 9: in the altitude families saying are you going to be
• 25:26
  Speaker 9: all right?
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Are you all right?
• 25:27
  Speaker 9: And I say to them, you know what moj is
• 25:29
  Speaker 9: like right now? He's in Vegas. He's reminded me. Do
• 25:33
  Speaker 9: you remember the Nicholas Cage character. What was that depressing
• 25:36
  Speaker 9: movie where he just drank.
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: Heath in Las Vegas?
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: Leaving Vegas? Vegas was a lot more jovial, fun movie
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: than then leaving Las Vegas, where it was Yeah, that's just.
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: The yeah, the the He was acting alongside the lady
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: who played uh Danny Leuze Show's girlfriend in Karate Kid.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Elizabeth's Shoe.
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's how I remember that movie. And no matter
• 26:07
  Speaker 9: what Elizabeth Shoe did and tried, she could not pull
• 26:13
  Speaker 9: Nick Cage out of that spiral. And he just ended
• 26:16
  Speaker 9: it there in Vegas, just went on the street.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Don't be Nicholas Cage.
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: No, I'm good, get back. I'm good. I'm good. I'll
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: be back home. I can't wait to see my family
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: and play with my dogs a little bit. Go to
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: the garage and see how much I have left in
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: that saws all blade.
• 26:39
  Speaker 9: By the way, most most you'll appreciate this.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: See if my nail see see if my nail gun
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: is loaded.
• 26:46
  Speaker 9: Most I need you, and you're gonna have to fight
• 26:50
  Speaker 9: Adali and Mario. You know my dad's garage. He had
• 26:53
  Speaker 9: all these random tools that I don't even know how to.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know what they are.
• 26:59
  Speaker 9: I know, Oh, we're gonna have to find a home
• 27:01
  Speaker 9: for them. And I thought of you, I said, God,
• 27:03
  Speaker 9: if somebody knew how to use whatever this is, it
• 27:06
  Speaker 9: would be moser.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: I don't even on down. What is it?
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Come on down, because I don't know what.
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: I will know. I'm gonna be I'm gonna be good.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: It's just that winning is so fun and this is
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: can I can I be selfish for one second and
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: people people get on you know, everybody's got their own
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: mysticism and everything. We did call it a road a
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: wagon this year, right, we did, and they were I mean,
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: it's one of the top ten seat regular seasons of
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: all time and then eight and one through two rounds.
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: So it's not the reason that they didn't go all
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: the way. But this was just such a fun season overall,
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: with our broadcast crew, with me Reich's Johnny Keefer, Rachel
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: Kate later because Rachel had a baby, Connor, everybody involved
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: in it are are you know, are the bosses?
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: You guys make it fun to watch most.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: Producer, director, I mean everybody. We had such a fun season.
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: As we went along, it was so joyful. It's hard
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: to believe that that what I thought I knew, Brett,
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: like you said, what I thought I knew, and what
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: that joy was all of a sudden dissipated in the
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: span of a week. You know, it was one friggin week.
• 28:24
  Speaker 9: You're you're puttering right along, you're at full sprint, you're brought,
• 28:29
  Speaker 9: you're about to break a marathon record, and as you
• 28:33
  Speaker 9: get near that finish line you get hit with the
• 28:35
  Speaker 9: widow maker.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah that make it feel better.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: No, No, it doesn't. It doesn't. You're not you're not,
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: you're not incorrect, But it doesn't. It doesn't lift my
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: spirits at all. Look, I'm gonna be fine. I've been
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: around this game for so long. I've seen way way,
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: way more ugly, horrible, gut ranching. You punch yourself in
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: the face defeats that I have the joys of ultimate victory.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: But a lot of those guys, I mean, you knew
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: you weren't gonna do it. You knew you didn't have
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: the horses. You knew that it was not it was
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: not in the cards for you. I thought this was
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: so in the cards. So in the freaking cards.
• 29:16
  Speaker 9: Can I raise a question as we go to break?
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: Please?
• 29:20
  Speaker 9: It's a question that I want everyone to ponder, and
• 29:22
  Speaker 9: when we get to the other side.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I want your answers, especially you two pondered this.
• 29:27
  Speaker 9: We witnessed this season, this year, twenty twenty five, twenty six, Okay,
• 29:32
  Speaker 9: the last eight months, we witnessed some of the highest
• 29:37
  Speaker 9: highs in local professional sports, arguably the greatest single year,
• 29:43
  Speaker 9: eight month stretch in Denver professional sports history, and each
• 29:49
  Speaker 9: one ended in heartbreak. The three I speak of, I
• 29:54
  Speaker 9: want to ask you, guys on the other side, which
• 29:56
  Speaker 9: one broke your heart the most.
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: Get to it in just a second, stick around, all right, VIC,
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: repeat the question that you asked, going to break?
• 30:03
  Speaker 8: Go ahead?
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 30:05
  Speaker 9: Three teams that stole the spotlight in their respective sports.
• 30:11
  Speaker 9: Broncos had the best record in the regular season home field.
• 30:15
  Speaker 9: The Nuggets went into the postseason with a.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Tremendous win streak.
• 30:19
  Speaker 9: A lot of people had them going to the finals
• 30:21
  Speaker 9: before the playoffs started. On paper, best roster they ever assembled.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: The Aves were a wagon.
• 30:28
  Speaker 9: We know what they were, President's Trophy and all and
• 30:31
  Speaker 9: every one of those seasons ended in some sort of heartbreak.
• 30:35
  Speaker 9: So I ask you which one broke your heart most,
• 30:38
  Speaker 9: Which team and why?
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: I don't think this is particularly close.
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: It's the Abs.
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: I think it's the Abs, and it's it's not even
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: close to the other.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Is that just recency bias or is it no?
• 30:54
  Speaker 8: The reason I think it's that sorry, mush you or me.
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: You're good, You're good.
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: The reason I think it's the Avs is because the
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: Avs proved all year. They were the number one team
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: in the league. They went through the first two rounds
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: of the Stanley Cup playoffs and dominated.
• 31:11
  Speaker 8: They were eight and one, and then they.
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: Had this level of epic collapse that didn't last sixty minutes.
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: It lasted sixty minutes four straight times. In the case
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: of the Broncos, it could have been them had Bonick
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: still been healthy, but he wasn't, and we all had
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: this feeling like we were trying to convince ourselves that hey,
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: maybe the defense will be good enough and Stidham can
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: surprise everybody in the AFC Championship game.
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: But it didn't happen.
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: And when you left that you weren't surprised by the
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: result that the Broncos lost to the Patriots. It was
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: maybe the way the game played out that there was
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: no offense. Then a snowstorm was weird. The Nuggets was
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: just disappointing from start to finish. But that was the
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: first round in five games. It's this one that the
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: shock that I feel this morning into getting swept after
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: watching what I watched for months of this team looking
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: like they were, bar none the best in the league.
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: I don't think anything's close.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: You know, Vic brett Rais is a good point here
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: with the other two. I don't think that those losses
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: made me question my sanity. Yeah, pretty much what I
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: at your age, No no, no, no, no no no yeah
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: yeah yeah yeah, But but but there's a there's a
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: there's a mental part of it where god, I'm not
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: even really sure that I fully believe the progress could
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: win it all.
• 32:40
  Speaker 9: You know, Before you guys go down this road, let me,
• 32:43
  Speaker 9: let me just hit the rewind button. Let's just rewind
• 32:45
  Speaker 9: a little bit. The day after the AFC title game,
• 32:48
  Speaker 9: we had a show where we're yelling at the at
• 32:51
  Speaker 9: the heavens, what a fluke injury number one? Why didn't
• 32:55
  Speaker 9: you kick the field goal? What is Stidham doing with
• 32:58
  Speaker 9: the chess pass? Why can't you execute when you have
• 33:01
  Speaker 9: the ball on the thirty two yard line? Why did
• 33:04
  Speaker 9: that winter squall have to come in when it did.
• 33:07
  Speaker 9: We asked all these questions, and we were just as
• 33:10
  Speaker 9: passionate about it and just as heartbroken about it. And
• 33:13
  Speaker 9: then the Nuggets lose the way they did. Oh my god,
• 33:17
  Speaker 9: a nineteen point lead at home, Oh my god. Nobody
• 33:20
  Speaker 9: responded to Jaden McDaniel's trash talk. Oh my god, they're
• 33:24
  Speaker 9: missing four key players and you can't beat.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: Them in a must win.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: It was the same way. So I would.
• 33:29
  Speaker 9: Contend that all three break your heart in mysterious ways, and.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: All are equal.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: I think they all are.
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: No, Yeah, I in my head, dude, I was sure.
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: I was sure they were going to win this thing.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: No, here's my head.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: I mean, I was sure that they were going at
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: least get to the fight.
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: I was sure if I had to put all of
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: these like, just do a word association thing. The end
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: of the Nuggets season was anger just because they didn't
• 33:57
  Speaker 7: show fight.
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: I was angry.
• 34:00
  Speaker 7: The end of the Broncos season was I mean, after
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: that game, I.
• 34:06
  Speaker 8: Would say probably weird, but not That wasn't unexpected.
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: The Broncos loss when Jared Sidham was starting the AFC
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: Championship game against the second best team record wise in
• 34:18
  Speaker 7: the AFC, that wasn't a surprise to anybody.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: The game was weird.
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: The game, but the Avs, I am, I'm confused. I'm
• 34:30
  Speaker 7: just confused this morning. I don't get it. I don't
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: know how it happens. Seriously, you get to a point
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: you are it's not close. When you ask people who
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: do you think is gonna win the Stanley Cup? What
• 34:45
  Speaker 7: would you have said? Most the average NHL fan, maybe
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: eighty percent of them would have said Avs leading into
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: that series. And maybe I'm being conservative on that number
• 34:54
  Speaker 7: when I say eighty percent. And it's not just that
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: you lost, you get swept.
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: Hey, dude, here's another thing. It's now been thirteen straight
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: seasons that the President's Trophy winner is not won the
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: Stanley Cup thirteen straight years?
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, why is that?
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know, hot team heat.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: I mean, if the Dodgers, if the Dodgers are the
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: best team in baseball for thirteen straight years, how many
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: World Series do they win? Eight?
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  Speaker 7: I know Baseball can do that too. Baseball you run
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: into hot teams and then you just all right.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: If you're fourteen and two for thirteen straight years, how
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: many super Bowl team? How many Super Bowls do you win?
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: Well, nobody's And it's different because nobody's fourteen years two
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: for thirteen three years?
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: Well, fourteen and three now, I guess, but you know,
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: but you know what I mean. I mean, it's all
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: those teams.
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: Then, I mean, how many much that the best team
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: in the regular season in basketball typically is the team
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: that wins the title. That basketball does the best, it's
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: the best example of whole team. The team that's most
• 36:06
  Speaker 7: talented in the best all year is usually the team
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: that wins the title.
• 36:10
  Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, Hockey's the worst.
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: So many, so many variables in this stupid game in
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: this is so many variables in any shift, any period.
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, again, Brett, you started it out. McKennon sees
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: mccarr streaking down the wing in period number one, and
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: what happens. He just misses him, I mean, but not
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: by a lot right by.
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  Speaker 7: I think at the end of his it was an
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: outstretched hand. I think it was the end of his stick.
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  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: But let's say Kale's good at every CV. I mean,
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: let's say it's on his tape and he still has
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: to reach out. He's he's so good at receiving.
• 36:48
  Speaker 8: He's still alone front.
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: And he's gonna he's gonna collect that pocket. He's still
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: gonna have time to race in and do his thing.
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: But then what happens.
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: Vegas gets it and they throw hail Mary the mark
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: stone that's right on the mound.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: And not just anybody, Braydon McNabb, a mind sweeper, a
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: big old iron cladded mind sweeper, launches a freaking F
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: eighteen hornet off his deck. He doesn't even have any
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: airplanes seventy feet in the air. It's just it's I mean,
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: that's what happens in playoff hockeys, you know, just it's unbelievable. Dude.
• 37:27
  Speaker 9: Going back to my question about which of the three
• 37:30
  Speaker 9: is the most heartbreaking, and I can make it. I
• 37:33
  Speaker 9: can go bone to contention for every argument here, and
• 37:37
  Speaker 9: somebody said, Wow, the Broncos would have gotten their blanks
• 37:39
  Speaker 9: handed to them had they made it to the Super
• 37:41
  Speaker 9: Bowl with a backup QB. And what I'm telling you
• 37:46
  Speaker 9: is that the QB thing is part of the heartbreak.
• 37:49
  Speaker 9: The fact that you lost your starter on a random
• 37:52
  Speaker 9: run play when the game was pretty much won. That's
• 37:55
  Speaker 9: that's part of the heartbreak. And I'm here to tell
• 37:58
  Speaker 9: you right now regarding the you get the Broncos in
• 38:01
  Speaker 9: the Super Bowl with the healthy bon Nicks, I'll take that.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 38:07
  Speaker 9: I'm not convinced Seattle beats him. I don't know what
• 38:09
  Speaker 9: you've been watching. I'm hey man again, hot team, Hot team.
• 38:13
  Speaker 9: I'll give the Broncos a chance in that every single
• 38:16
  Speaker 9: day with a healthy bon Nicks. So heartbreak comes in
• 38:19
  Speaker 9: many different forms.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Injuries. That's a big factor.
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  Speaker 8: The way you get into the factor.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: If you go to the Rams and say, hey man,
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: he Rams, how in the hell did you lose to
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: Sam Darnold.
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: Seattle?
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 38:37
  Speaker 8: Seattle's good.
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: Seattle's good. Yeah, I mean like it's like Vegas is good.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: But how does Mark Stone, who bounces around between forty
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: and sixty points a year, how does he receive a
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: hail Mary bomb off Braydon mcnabbs of all people's stick
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: and race in and put a frigging Peter Forsburg world
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: class move on Mackenzie Blackwood. How does that happen? I
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: don't know what it did? It I don't know. I
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: don't know what it did.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: You know what's weird?
• 39:07
  Speaker 7: And maybe this maybe this applies to the Nuggets, Maybe
• 39:10
  Speaker 7: it doesn't.
• 39:13
  Speaker 8: Not as much, I guess.
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: To watch a team that has so much promise and
• 39:19
  Speaker 7: you feel like is capable of winning a championship play
• 39:23
  Speaker 7: so out of character is the biggest shock that it was.
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: You waited until the most crucial moment mos where I
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: could say this is probably the worst four game stretch
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: that the Haves played over the course of the year.
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: They had a couple of ruts in there, but to
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: watch them go out and just kind of like lose
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: their sense of self was really bizarre.
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: Especially the those guys. We're not talking about kids. We're
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: not talking about inexperienced guys. We're not talking about you know,
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: newbies or whatever hadn't been there and done that. We're
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: talking about so many guys who have gone through so
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: much and to have this uncharacteristic sort of vibe come in.
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know's.
• 40:23
  Speaker 7: It's like, you know, when when Jared Stidham did the
• 40:27
  Speaker 7: chest pass, wasn't Party like as disappointing as it was.
• 40:32
  Speaker 7: Party was like, well, he's that's a backup quarterback.
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: He's Jared. Yeah, no offensive city, but yeah, but it's Jared.
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: Still I don't know, that's it.
• 40:44
  Speaker 7: In the case of the Nuggets, it was it was
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: disappointed from disappointing, from a lack of fight sort of perspective.
• 40:51
  Speaker 7: The F's just played way below their standard, and that
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: was it's just still, you know, we're not even I
• 40:58
  Speaker 7: don't know, twelve hours from this, barely twelve hours away
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: from the end of that game.
• 41:02
  Speaker 8: It's still just like.
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: How the Abs ability? You know, I'll go back to
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: Game one against Minnesota. Crazy game right, Minnesota comes back
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: and ties the thing, takes the lead, But the Abs
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: is that game one on just inflicted their will and said,
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: screw it, we'll score ten if we have to. Only
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: needed nine, actually only needed seven. Throw well, throwing a
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: couple more for good measure. They inflicted their will. They
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: never inflicted their will at once time one time.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Most what time you thinw me not not.
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: Like they like they have. What time you I gotta
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: leave here? Okay a couple hours.
• 41:40
  Speaker 9: Can I give you one piece of advice as you're
• 41:42
  Speaker 9: in Vegas?
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Just one small advice.
• 41:45
  Speaker 9: How much liquid you have right now in savings? How
• 41:48
  Speaker 9: much can you get your hands on?
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, here we go. I don't know. I don't know, Vic,
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: But what what are you getting out here?
• 41:56
  Speaker 9: You get a couple hours to assemble that money?
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Get it all?
• 42:00
  Speaker 9: Okay, go downstairs, whoever casino you're go downstairs.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Put it on red. Put it all on red.
• 42:09
  Speaker 9: If you win, you get something, You come home, You
• 42:13
  Speaker 9: come home with someone. If you lose, on top of
• 42:16
  Speaker 9: everything that happened, just go full Nicholas Cage leaving Las Vegas.
• 42:21
  Speaker 7: Wait, wait, this is this revealed a lot about your character, Vic,
• 42:26
  Speaker 7: A lot.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a put.
• 42:29
  Speaker 9: It on red guy, Dude, I don't I don't even
• 42:31
  Speaker 9: you put it on black.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know black, not red. Okay, I don't know.
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 42:36
  Speaker 9: I'm I don't do the gambling thing at bag.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: I don't do that. I don't even know how.
• 42:40
  Speaker 9: It's the only one that can relate to I'm the
• 42:44
  Speaker 9: guy who's playing blackjack, and I'm the guy who the
• 42:47
  Speaker 9: dealer's trying to help play the game, and everybody at
• 42:51
  Speaker 9: the table's.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Like, oh God, this guy.
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: That's me.
• 42:54
  Speaker 8: It's that scene from Austin Powers.
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: You have like a two and of four all stay.
• 43:01
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• 43:03
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• 43:30
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• 43:36
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• 43:39
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• 44:06
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• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Great season, buddy, great season. Come home.
• 44:11
  Speaker 9: Let's go play golf. Yep, let's go play golf. You'll
• 44:14
  Speaker 9: be happy when you missed that three foot.
• 44:17
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