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Cryptids & Creepy Encounters by an International Cadaver Dog Handler with Lyn Parsons · The Cryptid Huntress

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  Speaker 1: Well, good afternoon, everybody. It's the Cruise Huntress. I'm Jessica John.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for being here today and
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  Speaker 1: joining us on this fine Wednesday. This is a glitch
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  Speaker 1: in the matrix where sometimes we get a little glitchy
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  Speaker 1: over here. And uh, and today we have an incredible
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  Speaker 1: show lined up for you, guys. I have Lynn Parsons
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  Speaker 1: here in the studio with me, and honestly, my jaw
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  Speaker 1: is still on the floor from some of the stuff
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  Speaker 1: she was just telling me backstage in regard to some
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  Speaker 1: of her time overseas and being a I'm gonna say
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  Speaker 1: cadaver dog handler, okay, but a human remains detector dog handler.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's the correct term. I'm close, Okay, it's
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  Speaker 1: something like that.
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  Speaker 2: And uh.
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  Speaker 1: And what she has spent a lot of time, I
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  Speaker 1: mean decades doing this, y'all.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And she's had some very spooky and strange encounters out
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  Speaker 1: there in the field on the search and rescue. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if it's search and rescue exactly, but but
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  Speaker 1: detecting the the bodies and stuff, okay. And uh, and
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  Speaker 1: I actually did spend some time yesterday y'all watching some
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  Speaker 1: videos and uh, of exactly what these cadaver dogs are
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  Speaker 1: out there doing and these search and rescue dogs. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: it is I mean, I got emotional, y'all. It is
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  Speaker 1: wild and uh and I'm gonna connect some dots to
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  Speaker 1: some of the cryptied research tracking and things like that
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  Speaker 1: that we do, how that kind of relates to similar
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  Speaker 1: stuff kind of what she does. I've got some questions for.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, we're gonna we're gonna get got, We get got,
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna get deep and to this discussion today is
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  Speaker 1: gonna be fantastic. This is the very first having Lynn
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  Speaker 1: on the show. You guys will recognize her for being
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  Speaker 1: in the chats and stuff, and she and I are
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  Speaker 1: from around the same area here in Georgia, and uh
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  Speaker 1: and so yes, we have much to discuss. We already
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  Speaker 1: well let's get to our show today. So today, Lynn
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  Speaker 1: Parsons is joining us to discuss We're going to discuss
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  Speaker 1: on cryptids and creepy paranormal experiences throughout the years that
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  Speaker 1: she's had overseas as a US cadaver dog handler. Lin
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  Speaker 1: Parsons is a lifelong lover of the supernatural and the spooky.
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  Speaker 1: She grew up watching Yubi Doo just like me and
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  Speaker 1: continues to seek out the mysteries. Lynn is a former
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  Speaker 1: human Remains detection dog handler and is volunteered with homicide
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  Speaker 1: departments all over Florida and Georgia. She works in Panama
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  Speaker 1: searching for the remains of political prisoners from the Manuel
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  Speaker 1: Noriega timeframe. She worked in Ecuador, Aruba, Saint Martin and
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  Speaker 1: completed these deployments. For three deployments in Iraq, Lyn searched
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  Speaker 1: for missing service members, coalition members, Department of Defense employees, contractors,
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  Speaker 1: mass graves, as well as evidence recovery. And I think
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  Speaker 1: you guys are going to really enjoy this conversation today.
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  Speaker 1: Please help me. Welcome to a show, Miss Lynn Parsons.
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  Speaker 2: Hey Lynn, Oh do I've lost volume again? Crap?
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  Speaker 1: Can you see me? Can you hear me? Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: all right, we were having a little bit audio issues
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  Speaker 1: while you go, and so she switch over to her phone. Y'all, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna get Lynn back up here in just a minute.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, you guys are gonna really enjoy this today.
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  Speaker 1: Why we're waiting for Linn to come back, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to share my screen. I want to show you guys. Well,
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  Speaker 1: actually she's back. She's back. Let's see if this will work. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see if the audio is working. Is that better?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Welcome in, Lynn, Thank you for being here today.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for inviting me. I'm looking forward to this.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, I'm looking forward to this too. And I
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  Speaker 1: was telling the audience I got a little emotional last
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  Speaker 1: night watching some videos of cadaver dogs. The process of
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  Speaker 1: them being trained and the handlers and what you guys
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  Speaker 1: do and the situations they're put in and how I
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  Speaker 1: mean just all of it was very emotional for me.
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  Speaker 1: And so first of all, I want to thank you
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  Speaker 1: for your service, because you're doing a big service. Linn.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you are very welcome. It gave me a feeling
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  Speaker 2: that I was doing something important in the world. And uh,
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  Speaker 2: I loved it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you are doing something very important, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: and it's it sounds quite grim actually, you know, going
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  Speaker 1: to locate bodies of missing people. I mean, that's one
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  Speaker 1: of my one of the soapboxes I stand on. Or
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  Speaker 1: you know, where are all these missing people going? And our
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  Speaker 1: national parks and and really get into this missing person's data. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of missing people out there, and if
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  Speaker 1: you can just bring one body home or locate people,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for their families, you're saving that family's lives,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And you're providing a part that allows them closure.
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  Speaker 2: It's one of my sticking points is dog handler saying
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  Speaker 2: I provided closure to the family. You're providing one tool
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  Speaker 2: in the process to reaching closure and knowing what happened
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  Speaker 2: to your family member having a place to grieve. That
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  Speaker 2: is part of it, and it's a very important part.
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  Speaker 2: So I was always very proud of what I did
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  Speaker 2: and very proud of my team members and everyone who
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  Speaker 2: does this.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you, So you have a team of I
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  Speaker 1: keep calling them cadaver dogs, but is there is that
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  Speaker 1: the correct term?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm a former Human Remains Detection dog handler. I
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  Speaker 2: developed PTSD after deploying two rock several times. So but
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  Speaker 2: I still have many contacts in that world. I helped
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  Speaker 2: to uh move rescue dogs into that world. And like
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  Speaker 2: I had a really wonderful well to me, wonderful surprise,
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  Speaker 2: maybe not so wonderful surprise to my friend. But I
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  Speaker 2: donated a Golden Retriever that is a disaster dog now
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  Speaker 2: and he oop seed and became a dad unplanned. So
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  Speaker 2: there's there. I think a week old it's a week
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  Speaker 2: old field line Golden Retriever puppies, so uh and so
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  Speaker 2: in between his newter and anyway he snuck one in.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, I tell you what, those metal dogs, we're
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  Speaker 1: going do that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, they are smarter than we give them credit for.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they are. Oh my gosh. Well let's well, let's
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  Speaker 1: get into some of like you know, your your background
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  Speaker 1: with it. As far as you know, I was really
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  Speaker 1: interested in a lot of the overseas work you were
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  Speaker 1: doing in Iraq and stuff. But you've been doing this.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how did you get into this? Like what
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  Speaker 1: got you interested in this?
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  Speaker 2: And m uh it was a fluke really. I owned
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  Speaker 2: a pet grooming and boarding business in Largo, Florida, and
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  Speaker 2: I had a Pomeranian and a Pomeranian Chihua mix that
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  Speaker 2: I was walking before I went to work one morning
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  Speaker 2: and I saw bushes moving and my little Pomeranian Chihua
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  Speaker 2: mix wanted to go check it out. I thought it
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  Speaker 2: was a raccoon at first, and I wander over and
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  Speaker 2: it's actually a World War Two veteran who had been
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  Speaker 2: missing for ten days and he was still alive. He'd
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  Speaker 2: been getting water from the water spigot at the house.
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  Speaker 2: He was just kind of It was a very heavily
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  Speaker 2: urban area. He walked every day to the store, and
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  Speaker 2: he had developed Alzheimer's, so he just one day missed
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  Speaker 2: his usual turn and ended up somewhere. And looking back now,
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  Speaker 2: like at the time, I had no combat experience, but
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  Speaker 2: looking back now, I know what he was going through
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  Speaker 2: in his mind, because once you start developing Alzheimer's, you
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  Speaker 2: actually revert back to the most traumatizing times in your life,
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  Speaker 2: whether you want that or not. So he was. They
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  Speaker 2: had sent rescue teams, there were law enforcement was looking
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  Speaker 2: for him, they had sent patrol dogs, but he was
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  Speaker 2: actively evading the enemy because in his mind. I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: like I didn't talk to him, but this is my
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  Speaker 2: opinion only my opinion. Don't do this at home strictly
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  Speaker 2: for entertainment purposes, But it is my opinion that he
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  Speaker 2: was evading the rescue workers that were searching for him,
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  Speaker 2: and it was just a fluke that I happened to
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  Speaker 2: walk up on him and my now ex husband, his
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  Speaker 2: best friend at the time, was the maintenance man at
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  Speaker 2: the place where thatt Man went missing from, and I
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  Speaker 2: mentioned it to him and he said, oh, this guy's missing.
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  Speaker 2: So he ran over and grab the guy's niece who
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  Speaker 2: was his caretaker, brought her over and nine to one
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  Speaker 2: one was called and so he was taken in to
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  Speaker 2: get the help that he needed. Had a change in
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  Speaker 2: people taking care of him, and anyway, that got me
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  Speaker 2: interested in search and rescue. I first I looked at
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  Speaker 2: the local team and they required all of this stuff,
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  Speaker 2: you know, land navigation, wilderness survival, first aid, wilderness everything tracking.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought there was no way. I'm just I'm
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  Speaker 2: just a poor girl from a poor you know, right,
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  Speaker 2: And I could never learn all of this and h
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  Speaker 2: but it stuck with me and I couldn't get rid
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  Speaker 2: of it. And I started following the team on social
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  Speaker 2: media what they were doing, and they offered a open
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  Speaker 2: training and membership drive, so I joined the team. At
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  Speaker 2: the time, I did not have a functional dog, which
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  Speaker 2: actually worked out well for me because I was able
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  Speaker 2: to tech for various types of dogs and decide which
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  Speaker 2: type of dog I wanted to handle myself. So I
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  Speaker 2: learned navige, land navigation, man tracking, map reading, we had
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  Speaker 2: to learn first aid to the level of a first responder,
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  Speaker 2: just all kinds of stuff. And then and my technical guru,
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  Speaker 2: him and I would set up land navigation courses and
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  Speaker 2: stuff and anyway, he was a good guy and I
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  Speaker 2: miss him dearly. He's passed on, but he would tell
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  Speaker 2: me often that I would need a marine to marry
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  Speaker 2: me because no one else could survive me. And he's
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  Speaker 2: really not wrong. Yeah. So yeah, And so I got
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  Speaker 2: my dog, and as he was a puppy, I started
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  Speaker 2: taking him to structured obedience classes with local law enforcement,
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  Speaker 2: and over time I took over the obedience classes from
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  Speaker 2: that law enforcement. At officer, he was the bomb dog
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  Speaker 2: and cross trained cadaver dog guy and training coordinator for
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  Speaker 2: the Panellas County Sheriff's Office, and so we would train
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  Speaker 2: oftentimes with them, and we trained two nights a week,
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  Speaker 2: Tuesdays and Thursdays, and when we respond to searches on
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  Speaker 2: the weekends. So it quickly became my life.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's actually okay, So that sounds really fun to me.
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  Speaker 1: And and I have taken a lot of these kind
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  Speaker 1: of course, is like you've taken to do the cryptic
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  Speaker 1: field research that I do, which is wild, right, it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of it's kind of similar in a way. And
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  Speaker 1: of course I got a bunch of retired veterans and
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  Speaker 1: stuff that I roll around with and uh, and we
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  Speaker 1: do all this, you know, land navigation tracking, human tracking,
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  Speaker 1: animal tracking, like the man tracking. I love that stuff, okay.
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  Speaker 2: And it's setting up yeah, but you can set up
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  Speaker 2: like observation. Pardon me, I have an ADHD, so I'm
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  Speaker 2: incapable of sitting in a chair like a normal person.
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  Speaker 2: But absolutely it's gosh, I lost the track of where
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  Speaker 2: I was going with this. But uh oh yeah observation. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you can set up observation test with the land navigation,
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  Speaker 2: like if you're actually out in youre looking for someone. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: we would set up take a deck of playing cards,
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  Speaker 2: and we'd lay out a land navigation course and we
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  Speaker 2: would set you already know, with a set of playing cards,
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  Speaker 2: you have fifty two cards. So along that course that
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  Speaker 2: we would set out, we would place these cards so
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  Speaker 2: that they exercised your ability to be observant within the
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  Speaker 2: searcher's cube which is up down, side to side and
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  Speaker 2: behind you. So we would do very We would be
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  Speaker 2: very creative in the places that we put cards, and
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  Speaker 2: we would make it a game like whoever finds this
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  Speaker 2: gets a compass. Who they had to have a compass
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  Speaker 2: to be there to begin with. But you know, there'd
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  Speaker 2: be like little prices and stuffs incentive for people to
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  Speaker 2: come and take our course.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, that is so cool. Well, yeah, so you're
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  Speaker 1: taking you take your dogs out there with you when
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  Speaker 1: you're doing all this land nap and stuff all the courses.
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  Speaker 1: Or did you do that separate from your dog?
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  Speaker 2: That was separate from the dog. We came a sartech
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  Speaker 2: too in order to do that, which was the minimum
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  Speaker 2: requirement for my team to be able to fill the
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  Speaker 2: ball and so. But yeah, technically you're supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: out there with your dog, have your compass, your gps,
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  Speaker 2: have the ability to do everything with your dog at
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  Speaker 2: your side.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, that is so cool. I was looking over
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  Speaker 1: I was kind of side eye and my little hound
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  Speaker 1: dog over here, buddy. I was actually got some tennis
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  Speaker 1: balls out this morning and I was seeing if he
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  Speaker 1: would he really loves his balls. I was like, man,
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  Speaker 1: he would make a great search and rescue dog, I think.
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  Speaker 2: And toy drive is what it's all about.
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  Speaker 1: Toy drive I learned. I learned these terms on those
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  Speaker 1: videos I was watching. Yes, yes, so he's really smart.
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  Speaker 1: He's really smart.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: My German shepherd would have been perfect for this, but
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  Speaker 1: she passed away from Krea. Freya passed away and uh.
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  Speaker 1: And Buddy showed up the week before she died and
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  Speaker 1: uh and so I got Buddy now and he loves
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  Speaker 1: to go hiking and stuff. So, uh so we're going
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  Speaker 1: to maybe get him into some training. Glynn, Okay, absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: it's too hey.
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  Speaker 2: Hound dogs like to put their nose down. And uh,
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  Speaker 2: is he an air scent? Does he keep his nose
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  Speaker 2: up in the air? Does he put it on the ground?
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  Speaker 1: He does bogs. Actually it's I'm gonna say, well, he
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  Speaker 1: puts his little foot up in the air too, whenever
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  Speaker 1: he's on the trail of something. And so he's I
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  Speaker 1: think he's like a blue tick hound or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: He's a mixed I think, yep.
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  Speaker 2: I uh. I've done some co instructing and this one
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  Speaker 2: lady she worked a coiner and the first time the
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  Speaker 2: dog was exposed to the odor of human remains, he
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  Speaker 2: immediately went into a point. But she had seen my
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  Speaker 2: dog working. My dog was a bark alert and she
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  Speaker 2: wanted a bark at And I'm like, bark he did
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  Speaker 2: come on that. He's pointing. He's showing you this is
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  Speaker 2: an exit work with the natural abilities of your dog,
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  Speaker 2: you know. And uh so, but I'm a little different
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  Speaker 2: about it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't mean in rupview, so I was sorry, no, ahead,
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  Speaker 1: if you're if you're a dangerous situation though, like you've
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  Speaker 1: you've gone into like war situations where there's like you're
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  Speaker 1: getting shot at and stuff, and you don't want a
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  Speaker 1: dog to bark in that situation, I would think, right,
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  Speaker 1: if they're like trying to do case.
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  Speaker 2: It definitely became a liability in the end, and I had, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: a set alert or a down alert or a point
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  Speaker 2: would have been preferable.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Lynn, it is it is really wild.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it is really it's really dangerous some of
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  Speaker 1: the you know, situations that you and your dog have
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  Speaker 1: gotten too. I'm thinking, you know, when I'm thinking about
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  Speaker 1: like the search and rescue dogs and the cat cadaver dogs,
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking of nine to eleven. And it was the
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  Speaker 1: most heartbreaking thing watching those dogs getting put on like
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  Speaker 1: a Pulley system and like kind of being taken over
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  Speaker 1: the rubble and like dropped off into it or something.
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  Speaker 1: That was some of the worst media coverage. I mean
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  Speaker 1: I say the worst because it was so emotional watching that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, very much. That was one of the things that
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  Speaker 2: was a tipping point in my decision to well, I
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  Speaker 2: want to do this. I've been interested in this. I
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  Speaker 2: was at work grim and dogs when everything happened, and
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  Speaker 2: so yeah, that was And then later in training I
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  Speaker 2: hated disaster work. I did it because it was required
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  Speaker 2: in my team. We responded to Hurricane Katrina and it
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  Speaker 2: was absolutely the worst and most terrific, and not just
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  Speaker 2: the human remains in the wake, but animal remains everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: There were animals hanging over electric lines and wedged in
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  Speaker 2: trees and it was just horrific. And the same thing
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  Speaker 2: in Iraq working vehicle, born iedes at mosque and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: It is the children and the animals, the complete waste
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  Speaker 2: of life and disregard for humanity and animals. Like I
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  Speaker 2: love animals. I am all about animals. So that was
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  Speaker 2: to me the worst part. So it was much easier
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  Speaker 2: for me to do historical remains than it was to
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  Speaker 2: do this up close and personal. Oh my god, it
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  Speaker 2: changes who you are, It really does us.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man. Well, first of all, thank you Angel for
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  Speaker 1: that supersticker. She's just hejj lovin like you both much
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  Speaker 1: respect Lynn, Thank you for your service.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you Angel. That's so sweet. Thank you for your support.
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  Speaker 1: We appreciate you over your big time, So thank you
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  Speaker 1: for that. Uh well, you so you're talking about historical
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: remains now you are. Actually you went down to South America.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: You were down there, dre It was at the Noriega
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: time frame, you.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Said, Monuel Noriega. That was a historical work. One of
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: the people that went missing that we've never found that
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: I've always wondered about as out of Lewisville, Georgia was
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: missing fisherman and Rudy was young. He was like eleven
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: months old at the time, but I had sended him
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: on age remains before because I was interested in history.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I've always been a history nerd. So we're searching for
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: the man. The town has rerouted an entire creek trying
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: to find him. There's divers that have gone into alligator
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: dens into the creek bank. Multiple dogs have come and
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: worked and they're alerting, and it's cold at the time
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: that I'm there looking for him. The divers are getting angry.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: They're not used to cold water diving, and they kept
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: going in they weren't finding anything, and they go in
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: again they weren't finding anything, and finally I'm like look,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: let's take the dog and we'll work upstream and everywhere.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: The dog alerts, will flag it, and we'll just keep
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: working until he stops alerting and we'll see what we find.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: So did that, and he veered off up to a
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: ridge line and there was a It was the body
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: of Howell Cobbs, whose son was a brigadier general during
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: the Civil War. It was known his resting place was
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: in that county, but they didn't know exactly where. And
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: the and Cobb County was named for this family, so
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: it was another fluke. Still didn't find the missing fishermen.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: He's missing to this day, which with all the dogs
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: sent everything that they did. They sent tracking dogs, they
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: sent cadaver dogs, they did full tilt ATV searches, teams
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: came in, I mean, but we never found him. My
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: second one is out of the Green Swamp in Florida
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: was a squirrel hunter and he had he has never
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: been found his Uh. They found his orange vest, safety
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: vest where he liked hunt, I think, his rifle maybe,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: and his truck. So there was like three different GPS points.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: By the time I got there, I kind of had
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: a the uh. It was Polk County at the time,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: and they are still Polk County, and there was a
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: My team leader sent me into the incident command trailer
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: to talk with the sheriff's officers and handlers and deputies
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: that were there. And so there was this one man
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: that was there, and he was kind of giving me
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: a hard time. You know, He's like, well, we've had
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: could everdog handlers here and they haven't found anything and
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: dah da dah and you know, so I'm telling him, well,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: you know, how could everdogs work? And this, that and
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: the other, and I just say, and there had recently
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: been a story about a bloodhound handler out of Polk
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: County who had a successful track in a shopping mall.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: And I said, hey, out of your county, there was
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: recently a successful track with a bloodhound in a shopping mall.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: And according to some handlers, they believe that a bloodhound
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: tracks on the odor of crush vegetation. If that were true,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: then that bloodhound would have never been able to find
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: that man. So the other law enforcement guys they start giggling,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: and he kind of stands up and he does is, well,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna walk along, I'm gonna handle I'm
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: gonna go with this little lady right here. And it
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: turns out he was the bloodhound handler that had found
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: that man, and he was testing me, which is often done,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: and you know, this could be just a stupid girl.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: We don't know, and so I was tested and so
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: but he had recently he was a hunter himself. He
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: recently come from hunting with family members and Alibam, I believe.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: And so we're going from waypoint to waypoint and there's
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: this one area, just really huge smushdown grass and I'm
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: looking at it, and the dog's not alerting on anything.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: He's having a great day wandering through the green swamp though,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: you know. And so here's this smush vegetation and he's
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: looking at it and he's like, what is this And
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: I go, oh, maybe it's a deer with babies or something.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: He's like, I don't know. That's pretty big. And it
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: really was. It was a huge area. And so those
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: are the two things that I wonder if there was
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: not something weird going on. But the Green Swamp has
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: a long history of hauntings and people being killed and
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Native American stuff and seminole war. So it's a blood drenched.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Area and skunk apes Lynn.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, and skunk caps, many many reports of skunk capes.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Mm hm oh yeah. I have friends that go and
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: research that area down here. I know several people down
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: here and and also all to take Skip. Thank you
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Skip for that supersticker. Good shows all, thank you for
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Skip and Okay, So there's there's plenty of the skunk
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: cape sighting. There's even what is that Dave Sheely has
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: his Skunkcape Museum down a little south of there, I believe.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Dave Sheely has the Him and his brother had
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: their first encounter as children. He runs are his family
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: and his family owned property. His son actually now runs
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: the business, but it's skunk Cape Headquarters and it's on
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: the same site as Treil Lake's campground. So and he's
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: got wonderful evidence tracks. There's a video of skunk capes
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: from I think it was the year two thousand on
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Unsolved Mysteries. And Dave was just a hoot anyway. He's
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: funny as can be. I love hanging out with him. Yeah.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I gotta make my way down there sometime, and I
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: want to go. I want to go python hunting. Do
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: you ever go snake hunting? Down there.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I do occasionally. It's not something I do regularly, but
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I occasionally get insomnia, and I make it count when
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I go down and wander around the dirt road. So
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I tell my war stories and search and rescue stories
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: and hunt for snakes and.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: You know, oh gosh, oh that I'm kind of torn
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: on like wanting to do that actually, because I was.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: They're probably two hundred and fifty pounds snakes and stuff
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: out there. I'm not sure I'm ready for that one.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Dusty Crumb he came to We had a
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: our there was a skunky camp out and thing, and
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Dusty Crumb came and did a talk there at Dave
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Sheeley's place. And I think his largest is seventeen foot.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: But he had the skin with him, and it was
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: big enough for the snake to have eaten two people
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: on my size, like because I'm a short I'm a
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: short short queen. I am almost five to two, so
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: I'm a little rounder than I used to be. But yeah,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: it could have eaten too short queens. Easy.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Thank we all are Lynn Okay, Oh my gosh, well
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: that is terrifying. And yeah, I mean I and I
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: always give kudos to all my big foot field researchers
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: down there that you know, go down in the swamps
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: and stuff. I mean that is that's a whole different
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: ballgame down there, Okay. And of course I've done a
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: little bit of research up in Chattahooshe, Florida a long
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: time ago, but I haven't gotten in the swamps too much,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: okay because because of the alligators and stuff. I'm not
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: a fan of that either. But I I think that
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: that would be a good deterrent from humans to go
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: in those areas. So that's probably where the bigfoots will be,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: I would think.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Yes, very much so. And there's water all the time,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: like we're in a heavy, heavy drought right now, so
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: no matter how low the water level gets, there's going
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: to be areas, gator holes and whatnot which are gonna
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: hold water, and all of the game are going to
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: come to these last holdouts. So yeah, it's a great
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: place to hunt and to hydrate.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, and it's cool, oh my gosh, yes, well it
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: is very hot today. I don't know about your haul
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: down there, but down in Georgia, I'm having a hard
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: time even breathing when I walk outside. It's so bad.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, Yeah, it's awful.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Well speaking speaking of which, I don't know why I
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: just thought of this, but I was going to ask
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: you about your the training. And you know this wall
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: goes hand in hand with the tree that some of
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: the training I've had. Okay, when it comes to like
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the tracking the bigfoot stuff, you know, I've been talking
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: a lot about bigfoot bodies being found. Okay, I knew
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: this is the will problem come up today. But uh,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: but people claim to have found bigfoot bodies and stuff,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: and some of them put them in museums. Most of
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: them are all proved. They've all been proven as hoaxes,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: most of them. But uh, and I guess that's why
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I've I've gone through some of this training. But some
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: of the guys on my team and girls went up
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: to the body farm up in Knoxville. I think it's
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: up in Tennessee.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Right, Yep.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Is that part of your training too? Have you done
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: stuff like that?
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: I did not attend a body farm, but yes, there
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: is training. One of my former UH cadaver dog friends,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: longtime co workers, he runs one in Texas at Texas
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: A and M and does. It's called FAX acronym F
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: A C T s. They do everything from puppy novice training,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: which if you're gonna do and at this point in
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: my training, I think that if you're gonna do fresh
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: bodies that is disasters, uh, recent homicides, that is absolutely
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: crucial training because at the time that I started, we
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: did not have the availability to train on full bodies.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: We the team that I trained with, we had a
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: good reputation, uh good working relationship with our local morgue.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: So the mortician would or not the mortician, but the
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: gentleman who would do autopsies. He would take We would
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: take old time towels or buy new white towels, and
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: they would put them down on the table so that
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: as they did the autopsies, all the body fluids would
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: come out onto the towels and soak them up. And
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: then we could take the fluids and we started by retrieval.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: We would put it in a PVC pipe with holes
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: in it and use it as a retrieval toy for
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: several weeks, just to bond the dog to the odor.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Now there are different methods for training that does not
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: because now it's no longer a thing. They don't want
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: the dogs to put their teeth on the remains at all.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: So all handling of the remains, putting them teeth on
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: bone or anything is discouraged. So you train now for
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: a passive sit alert at the odor so you're not
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: confusing a scientists later who's doing the autopsy or the
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: forensic anthropologist reading the boneses as to what happened to
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: the victim.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, because the because the dogs would go and
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: actually maybe bite the victim when they found it, or
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: I never happened. Kind of gross talking about this, y'all.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: I apologize. I know it's lunch time. It's all good, okay,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: So y'all be warning. I should have done a warning
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: before the show today, but I mean you got to
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: understand we're talking about corpses and stuff, y'all. Okay, Lynn,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: thank you for being so like upfront about that and
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: like talking about it, because I know there's I've always
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: wondered about that.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it is highly discouraged, but it has not
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: always been highly discouraged.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Oh DNA contamination too, wow, Oh my gosh. Well, you
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: know with the body farm. Now, there's actually a more
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: proper name for that Basi's the Forensic Anthropology Center. But
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: a lot of people would call it the body farm
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: and some of my I've had at least three or
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: four of my teammates go up there and do some training,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: and they said it was rough, gruesome. The people donate
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: their bodies when they die of that to science, and
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: I guess.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the things that my dog had issues
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: with because we did go to the morgue to train,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: and it was too much odor for some of the dogs.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Like one of the German shepherds, before he ever hit
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: the door to the morgue, he was, I mean low crawling.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: It was just it was overlow and so I got
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: rooty in there and he was I think there were
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: like seven bodies at the time, and it's not like
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: you see on TV. These are naked bodies, you know,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: So that kind of freaked me out at first. I'm
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: a little I'm a little repressed. So I was a
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: little freaked out and I had to work past it.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: And then you know, there's these full bodies that I'm
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: seeing for the first time. Because not only has the
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: dog been just working on odor, we've not been exposed
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: to this, so we have to be exposed to it also,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: and so you know, I'm walking the dog around the things,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: and I'm just thinking in my head, fingers and toes,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: fingers and toes. I'm refusing to look. I'm just thinking,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: I'm walking my dog. I'm seeing how my dog reacts.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: And he did good. He alerted until he came to
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: a body that had been partially burned in a wreck,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: and that he didn't alert at first, and so he
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: put his feet up on the table and he like
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: looked at the face and it was like the first
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: time he recognized that it was a human, and then
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: he jumped back, and so, yeah, it was weird. And
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: then we go into the cooler and there had recently
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: been a recovery of someone who had been buried partially
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: buried are are buried in a shallow grave and animals
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: had gotten so it was partially exposed. So the upper
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: part was bone connective tissue skeletal and the lower part
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: was atipacre, which is so waxeat type substance that in
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: wet environments the body will turn to wax its basically. Yeah,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: so and that was since reoverload for him. So I
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: had in order to work my dog and bring him
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: out of him being freaked out. I get down on
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: my hands and knees on the floor and encourage and
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: encourage until he parts. So yeah, it's yeah.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: And that he was like, oh what I've been nipping
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: this whole time is a dead human.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a face to this odor.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Or man that's gotta be a terrible I mean, a
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: weird realization for the dog.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Well, to the dog, it is a game. You know,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: they don't. It's you don't because the dog feels everything
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: you feel. All of your emotions go down the leash.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: So you try to clear your mind. You don't want
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: to be upset. You don't want to be mad at
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: a teammate. You don't want to be mad at your boyfriend.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: You don't want to be mad at your dog because
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: he's acting weird. You want to reade, calm down, let
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: your dog be able to work without you stressing them out.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: And yeah, So you want the dog to always think
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: it's a fun game. They're happy to do it. Happy,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: go lucky, I get my toy. This is a good game.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: But you also as a handler, you need to be
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: able to read your dog. Like searching for bodies in water,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: there are various methods to doing it, and uh, I'm
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: at this seminar in Texas in between deployments, and we're
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: finally able to train on full bodies and uh so
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: they've got buried bodies in various positions to train on,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: and we've got parts and which is huge and uh
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: so we're training and my uh they're using what's called
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: the scent pumper, so they have remains and they're pumping
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: the odor like as bubbles up for the dog, and
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: they're using a toy reward, a bobber to get the
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: dog's attention. And my dog was kind of freaking out
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: and he wouldn't go into the water. And I'm like,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: I'll be damned, I'll be ding danged. This is a
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Golden Retriever and I got him specifically to search for
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: the you know, they'd search for the dead remains of
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: ducks on water. He needs to be able to search
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: for the remains of humans in water. And so I
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: just walked into the water meet and he goes by
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: my side and we walk right up to it and
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: uh you know, he's like swimming circles and uh but
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: and you had to train your dog to be fully
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: off lead so their obedience trains, so you had to
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: this was for search this side, and this is for
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: search this side, and this has come to me and
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: this is down. And so you have to be able
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: to communicate. And as you're and Golden Retriever field trainers,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: this is part of what they do. You know, your
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: dog needs to be able to see which direction to
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: work on water. So I was able to go to
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: areas of water, send my dog, direct him from shore,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: whereas other handlers who work who did not work that
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: kind of dog, did not have that kind of trainer,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: didn't do that kind of training. So, uh, there is
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: a call for every breed of dog and every type
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: of talent of dog in search and rescue.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: And I was shocked that every breed just about is
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: in searched and rescue in some sort. I mean, maybe
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: not every single breed. I don't know. There's chiualas out there, y'all.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but there's a there's a bunch I was.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I was shocked.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I worked with a lady. She was a FEMA handler
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: and for as a joke, she trained her long hair Chihuahua.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: She called it her handheld unit. So yeah, and I
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: knew a narcotics dog handler that wanted to see if
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: his wife's Yorkie would work out, and he said that
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: was the best little dog he ever. He could toss
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: it up in a pile of luggage. He didn't need
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: to spread the load. He just did dog all over
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: the place and when he found it so absolutely I
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: love that.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I think that's so cool. I mean,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: just think of the possibilities of all even like all
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: the shelter dogs and stuff. You know, every every dog
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: just wants to I don't I don't want to say
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: they all want to work sometimes like to lay around, right,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: But there's working dogs out there and they can be
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: put to work doing this stuff. I mean, it's amazing.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: I love a Rehi dogs. One of the uh cadaver
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: dogs that I had trained with when I was a
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: state side ended up as a casualty of divorce. It
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: was a privately owned like a lot of law enforcement
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: officers will privately own a cadaver dog, and so they
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: might not be a part of their actual cadaver dog
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: or canine team, but they're a law enforcement officer with
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: a working or a fire department person where they're working
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: cadaver dog. So I've forgotten where I was going with this,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: but anyway, Yeah, there's it's a neat environment and you
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: meet some incredible people and some incredible dogs and incredible
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: circumstances of how people got to be where they're at.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: I love that. Okay, well, okay, so I would assume
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: that like whenever there's a missing person or there's a
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: case where somebody knows there's probably a body somewhere, you're
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: you're going to be called in to do these cases.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Kind of like I hate to say this, but like
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: you're one of the last resorts kind of to like
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: go find a body. Is that how that works? Because
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: I know, like after you've gone in there, everybody's looking
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: for a body. When they can't find anything, that's when
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: the head of my team gets called in for some
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: psychic investigators to come in. And that has happened because
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I have done several cases. I've been a part of
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: some cases out of Georgia actually, where some law enforcement
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: officials have contacted the head of my team and he
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: sent out some high priority remote viewing targets for us
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: to go help try to locate bodies and try to
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: find out what happened to people even after their bodies
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: are found they don't know what happened to them. Sometimes,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: ye know that that's going to call us in.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Absolutely there will be psychics calling in to give tips. Generally,
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: dogs or cadaver dogs don't get like most teams require
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: that law enforcement give them the call or a member
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: of a recognized organized emergency management or whatever to give
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: them an official call out. You don't self deploy. Self
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: deploying makes you you lose all credibility that way. But yeah,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: psychics are generally a part of it. And yeah, I've
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: had some of them are right, some of them are wrong.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: You know, it is what it is.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: It is what it is. We'll see with us, we
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: just have data. We just have remote doing data on
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: blind targets, so we don't even know what these targets
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: are at all. And and I have with some of
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: my data, I've actually helped locate where bodies were going
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: to emerge from the water at Lake Allatoon or Lake Lanear. Okay,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: so yeah, it's it's really cool. And the body did
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: come up there by the way, and I didn't know
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: what I was remote viewing. The Beautiford Dam was in
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: my data. Okay, so this is this is super cool
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: to hear you talk about this today, and and I
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: wanted we had a question in this We have a
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: lot of questions. By the way, y'all, I want the
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: audience notes that I am. I am saving your question.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: So if you see a question, I'm saving it for
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: the end of the show today or whenever it pops up.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Max would like to know, Jess, did Lyn's dogs ever
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: find any m I eight still alive?
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: No, we the military had their own combat tracking dogs.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: When we were in the military. Our only job was
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: human remains detection. So we were approached at various times
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: about our dogs tracking capabilities if we could track and uh,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: but no, that was not something that we did. We
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: were our parameters were very specific.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: M And I did want to point out too, I
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: would never none of us, ever as remote viewers whatever,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: like try to jump on the case and send our
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: data and like our information to a police department. Yeah,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: letn't ever asked because they get highly suspicious that you
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: might have been.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: A part of that and downright irritated.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I don't recommend doing that, y'all. Uh, And
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of people out there. I'm
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: going to have the head of my team wants to
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: come on one day and who taught me remote viewing?
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: By the way, and uh and he We're gonna we're
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: going to discuss all that on the show one day then,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: because there's a lot of people who haven't had the
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: training in remote viewing that are remote viewing okay. And
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: they made, you know, reach out to law enforcement more
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: than us. Okay, stuff like that. But just be real careful, y'all,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: because you're gonna get You're gonna get on the radar
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: if you start doing stuff like that in a bad way.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: We didn't. We have another question here from Pyro med
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: It was up Pyro. He says, had Lynn ever had
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: a dog act weird when finding its target? Like there
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: may be something paranormal there?
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: I not on odor No, But the home I grew
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: up in in Douglasville, it was a historic home. It
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: started out as a three room home in eighteen fifteen
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: and had grown into a sixteen room house. It's crossed
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: from Hudson's Hickory House. Jessica may know.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I know where that is.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Yep, A big whitet house. That was my home and
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: my parents collected Native American artifacts. They collected antiques, the
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: house was old as heck, so my dog my mother's,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: my mother's my parents Indian relic room. My dog would
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: start alerting on that room at the top of the hallway,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: and it was all the way at the end, so
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: I knew by my dog, and she had one There
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: was one finger bone in that collection, but that let
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: me know that those artifacts had been grave robbed by
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: my dog's reaction. The odor of human remains absorbs into
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: the rocks and into the dirt around where a human
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: body is, and you basically melt like an ice cream cone,
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: and then vegetation pulls your odor up in the tree
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: sent into the grass. But my working dog ruty at
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: my mom's house after she had passed. I took him
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: there and he they had this huge formal dining room
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: table sat like twelve people, and it looked like he
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: was playing fetch around this dining room table. He was
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: going to something on one side wagonist's tail, and then
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: he'd run to the other side wagonists tail. And then
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: later I had picked up a female French bulldog as
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: a puppy, and she was staring into that room from
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: the living room and started barking. Her hackles raised up,
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: so they recognize and see things. But I think a
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: lot of times with a working dog, they may be
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: so focused on their job and what they're looking for
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: because they just want that toy. Like they don't give
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: a crap if Aunt Ruth is poking them or you know,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Uncle Bob is doing weird stuff. They don't care. They're
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: trying to get their toy to play with. You know,
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: they don't recognize that it's a dead person.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that is fascinating. Okay, So I've always
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: wondered about that, especially around even at cemeteries. Oh yeah,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: even cemeteries. It's like there's trees out there. You know,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: there's a let's just talk about like where I go
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: bigfooting and looking for dog men, Like at the lbl Okay,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: the land between the Lakes and Kentucky. That whole place
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: is just one big gigantic cemetery. Okay, there are so
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: there are three over three hundred cemeteries at that on
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: that land, and they're in the lake as well. And
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: I've always wondered about like all the trees in the
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: area and like the grass and stuff that has the
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: does that have the scent of some of these dead bodies.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: You think like it will a dog that is trained.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, yes, when a dog goes out there, the
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: dog doesn't just smell a pine tree and grass, you know,
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: they smell every organism on that pine tree, every beetle, everything,
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: every bird that has left odoor on that pine tree,
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: every animal that has gone through the grass. So they
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: will pick up the odor of everything. You know. It's
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: just a matter of training them to specifically alert on
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: one of those odors.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay, okay. In my mind, I'm thinking like, okay,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: there's so many. I know, dogs are not dog men, okay,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: but there is a canine element to these dog men.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: And then they're very often seen in cemeteries. Some of
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: them are actually digging into the graveyard that one out
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: of Ohio. There's a video of one digging into an
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: area where creamines were buried or beside us. I wonder
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: if there's some kind of connection with that. I mean,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: is that is that too far fetched you think to
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: think about.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's far fetched at all, But I
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: have encountered several areas that they are can be considered
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: strictly for entertainment purposes. A protector of the land, a
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: protective spirit over graveyards, protective spirits over sacred areas, and
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: a sacred area might not be just the graveyard. But
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: h I H. There are ideas that Bigfoot, dog Man,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: various cryptids, and even like Baba Yaga and sightings of
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: various which is that they are all protectors of the
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: environment and protectors of various parts of it, and you
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: draw their ire by disrespecting those areas. If you go
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: in and you're not being a jerk, you're not doing
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: anything to draw their attention, or you know that you're
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: gonna be fine.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And I'll always go out into the woods
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: with the best of intentions, okay, with an open heart,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: but also an f a f O if y'all know
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: what I mean, attitude as well. Okay, we've got to
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: have some confidence out there, no matter what. You got
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: as much right to be there as everything else does
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: in my opinion. Okay, but but that is very interesting,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean that's the same thing we tell
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: people whenever we're going out there to go look for
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: dog men and bigfoot as well. It's like, you know,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: make sure you're out there with the right people who
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: have the right intentions or that could be deadly, you
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: know very much, so yeah, it could be. Uh do
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: you do you find yourself doing search I want to
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: say search and rescue. You're doing cadaver dog searches and stuff.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Do you come across a lot of like Indian burial
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: mounds and stuff and how does your how do your
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: dogs react to that? And is that an issue you know,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: like being out there on burial grounds and stuff for
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: what you do.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: Our team had a certification in an area that contained mounds,
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: and all of the dogs that had been scented on
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: aged remains work the mound the same way, concentric circles,
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: like outside the perimeter of the mound, working and working
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: and working until they got to the center of the mound.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: But not all mounds here at least are burial mounds
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: like here, they were utilized just to get people up
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: out of the waterline because of hurricanes and rain and stuff.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: So and down here there are mounds ever where, Like
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: I lived close to the Calusa Hatchie River and the
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: entire length of the Calusa Hachie from Pine Island all
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: the way over to the other side to Port Saint Lucie,
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: Hungry Land, all of those areas, there's mounds all through them. So,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: but it was different tribes like they were the ancient
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: tribes of Florida, where the Calusa, the Tamikua, the Tocobaga,
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: several different tribes and they all kind of of paid
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: tribute to the Calusa or the main tribe. And they
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: all paid tribute to the main tribe. They were called
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: the people of the waters. So they were considered uh,
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: I mean they had a warrior class, which is considered
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: very successful to be able to feed all of your people,
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: to maintain a strictly warrior class, to defend and to
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: engage in war or even tournaments and such. So a
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: lot of the words that we know, like barbecue came
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: from are came from Barbaricoa. And there are like the
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: tribes down here, and that we're gonna get gruesome. Like
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: the planes tribes they had, they would mount their bodies
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: up on structures and the birds and stuff would pick
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: them apart. And then and they had actual people members
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: of the tribe called bone pickers that would help to
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: strip the flesh while the bodies were up here, and
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: then only the long bones and the larger bones would
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: be interred into the ground. So it was very similar.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: Like we have our prairies down here, like water prairies,
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: marsh prairies, and the prairies over in the west are
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: actual like dry prairies. But the uh way they process
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: the dead and the remains is the same. It's strange.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Oh that's wild. That's really wild. So could that be
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: confusing for your dogs? Like when you're out there doing
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: the certain the the searches that you do and stuff.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: I mean with all those, I mean those are those
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: are historical? I guess you you actually do you actually
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: have a sense Okay, trying to say out a word this,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: do you do you have like clothing of like the
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: person who's missing or anything like that before you go.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: If it is live, fine, then you look for well,
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: if it is a tracking dog, true tracking dog you
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: work for, uh, you look for a specific person. If
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: it is an aircent dog, they're just looking for any
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: live person out there. So think disaster dogs. You know
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: on rubble piles. They don't know if Bob from the office,
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: they don't know his odor, but they know if he's
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: alive in there that they need to alert. So there
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: are different jobs and different ways of training and a
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: cadaver dog. Actually, there are over four hundred different and
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: distinctive odors that are part of the process of human decomposition.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: All of them are there at the time of early decomposition,
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: only some of them are there as this process goes on.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: So they are training on a mixture of odors, which
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: is more reminiscent of their training methods within the military
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: and detection dogs where they and some narcotics and stuff
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: where they'll plump a bunch of odors together and train
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: on like all the different odors of explosives. Some places
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: trained specifically on each different odor of explosive and some
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: do the soup method.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is absolutely incredible today. I am
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: so I'm fascinated by all this. I had no idea.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: It was so like there were so many different facets
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: to all of this. And I know, I just knew
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: there were search and rescue dogs. That's all I knew.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's you know, for the most part,
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: unless and that's what most people think. You know, everybody
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: when they first get into it, they want to go
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: out there and they want to find that missing little girl.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: You know, my gosh, I want to I want to
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: be a tracking dog. I want to find that little
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: girl in the woods or mom's missing her. Oh my god.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: And uh my dog chose his he, you know, and
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: I decided to go with it. And that's really the
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: only and down here. As a civilian, you will get
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: more work as a human remains detection dog handler because
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: most places they can utilize or they will utilize they
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: patrol dog as a tracking dog, or they have access
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: to bloodhounds throughout the prison system or FBI bloodhounds or whatnot.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: So as a volunteer in the state of Florida, some
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: other states are different, it is just it's you get
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: more work. It's a debtor dog handler.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, man, is this can I ask you like? This?
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: Is this is sometimes I've always wondered, is this something
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: that you get hired to do and contracted to do
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: or is it like a volunteer basis or is it
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: all different for every dog handler.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: It is a volunteer thing for the most part. So
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: when you see this search and rescue team, they are
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: volunteer handlers. So they have real jobs in the real
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: world and in their off time they train these dogs
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: and respond to them. If you respond to a disaster
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: like Hurricane Katrina, and we were paid per diem, which
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: you know, you're not really paid for your time, but
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: you know, they feed you and they pay for your
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: gas and stuff. Some law enforcement agencies will fill up
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: your gas tank and feed you. For the most part,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: they'll fill up your gas tank and feed you. But
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: then you get a lot of like we had a
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: lot of church ladies feed us. You know, a lot
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: of churches will stage searching areas or they'll put out
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: a volunteer call and all the church ladies will come
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: in and make fried chicken and you know, put out
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: a whole feed for people. So and that's really awesome
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: when that happens. So, a missing person draws. It is
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: a tragedy, but it also draws communities together.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: It does I can imagine, and it's so it's so tragic.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: It's similar with my team too, Like we're not getting
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: paid to like do remote viewing for a missing person's
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: cases and stuff. We do it because first of all,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: I just love remote viewing, Okay, Like we just like
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: to do it and we don't even know, like when
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: we're giving targets, we don't even know that's from like
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: a law enforcement thing, because that would kind of muddy
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: up the data a little bit because we would know
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: if I but see, if I get a high priority target,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: I subconsciously know there's this is very important. I have
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: to drop everything and do this target right now. And
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: so I kind of know there's a missing kid, or
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: there's a deceased person, or there's somebody missing. It's top
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: priority right now. Time is of the essence, you know.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: Uh So, But anyways, that thank you for answering that. That's. Man,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: it's such a wonderful thing that you're doing out there,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: and all all of these search and rescue people are doing,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: and that could everdog handlers and man's it's a wonderful thing.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: And and the number of missing people, Oh my gosh,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: I think I have some stats here somewhere. Let me
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: see where I can find them.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: And I answer this question on the screen first. So yes,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: a dog will alert at every grave. I know people
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: who to historic work with Native American boarding schools, industrial
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: schools like the there's an industrial school here in Florida
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: where a lot of the boys were killed. And so
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: I know the handlers that go to these historic graveyards.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: They utilize both the dog and ground penetrating radar to
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: mark these graves without disturbing the grave.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, well, so you're also out there looking for
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: buried bodies, right, I mean, because I was. I was
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: watching something the other day online and they were showing
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: this type of grass that was growing and somebody said,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: well that that grass only grows where bodies are buried.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: And so I don't know about a specific grass that grows.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: But part of being a handler is knowing how to
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: read the earth and looking at aerial photography, looking at
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: the plants because you are a form of nutrient, so
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: you can tell that the dirt has been disturbed. There's
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: we would use soil probes, like if we were on
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: our fairly recent body, agricultural soil probes. This little guy
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: right here. Pardon the dog hair that's freeby, but yeah,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: it takes a soil probe, and then you can tell
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: if the ground has been disturbed, looking at the vegetation,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: if there is more growth on one side, because now
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: you're you're fertilizer, so you're helping the grass grow over here.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: You know where your body is going to be a
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: dip and uh so and uh like now they have
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: light R, which I think is wonderful and you can
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: you can see the historical use of pieces of and
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: cal topo is a wonderful like topography, topographical maps. If
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: you're into search and rescue, map reading, whatever, you know this,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: but cal topo gives you light R viewings of various
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: pieces of property and you can tell if it's a uh,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: like a Native American mounds, you can go out and
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: the mounds here there's whole neighborhoods. It isn't just mounds,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: you know, there's canals and ditches and mounds and it
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: was huge expansive neighborhoods, so it wasn't yes, and you
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: can tell it all by light R.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: Oh Man, that is just absolutely fascinating when and and yes, listen,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: that's part of like the land navigation stuff that we do,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: the tracking courses that I've taken and that my teams
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: do a pretty often. I haven't I haven't had one
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: in a while, but but doing all that would get lost. Yeah,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: it's it's a lot of work man tracking in my
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: team's going out like in blizzards, okay, because you've got
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: to be trained for like all the different seasons of
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: the year, blizzards, snowstorms, you know, humidity and heat and
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. It's and everything in between, y'all.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, I was on the mission in Iraq that brought
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: home the body of Michael Scott Spiker. He'd been missing
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: for almost twenty years to the day. He was shot
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: down in the opening moments of a desert storm. And
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: it was hot, like it was one hundred and twenty
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: four degrees. There's no the ericin did they keep an
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: m wrap running all the time so if it got real,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: real hot, you and the dog could go cool off.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: But it's hot, there's sandstorms, and you just got to
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: give it your best. And uh, like one hand and
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: alert had freaked out out there. He didn't do well
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: at all, and uh, he got fired. I was supposed
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: to be going home on break and I got called
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: out to do this. And I'm glad because my dog.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: They had found his remains before I got there. But
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: then my dog, one of the only times in his life,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: he did a passive alert. He laid right where his
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: body had been found, and they tested me too. They
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: had a part of his skeletal remains were in a
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: backpack of the Personnel recovery guy. So they were testing me,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: and I could see when Rudy laid down, they were like, uh,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: there was a F eighteen pilot out there named Bibi
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: for broke back. He had broken his back doing a
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: hard landing, and so he was like poking the major
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: Major Tarres and the first sergeant, Hey, the dog's doing this,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: And I thought the dog. When the dog alerted on
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: the backpack, I thought he was Falts alerting. I'm like, oh, crap,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get fired. They're gonna ship me the heck
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: out of here. My dog just faults alerted, and I
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: look over at the PRD guy and he goes, no,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: he's right, and I'm like, and you know so, But
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: it was we were out there forever it was hot.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: It was me, my dog. One hundred and twenty four,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five Marines, a military surgeon, a
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: naval pilot. Yeah, so yeah, you know.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: Actually, my good what are my good buddies? Is in
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: the chat today. I think he's traveling MT. Paranormal Life.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: Mike Turning costs in here. Thank you Mike for being here.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: He's a good stint in the military. And he said
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: that he was in Iraq in two thousand and eight,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: and he was working with cadaver dog handlers as well
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: out there locating body.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: She said Lynn Parsons Melissa Ellis al Don's two eight
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: he was their worsh pardon yeah.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: Cool, cool, so you might you might have met him
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: actually out there in two thousand and eight.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: I have what member is, what branch of service was he?
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: He was in the I think it was in the
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: army if I'm not mistaken, but I don't know. I
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: had to Mike, if you're still in here, holler at us. Okay.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: Most of our missions in two thousand and eight were
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: for the Miss tenth Mountain guys. The day after I
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: got there in two thousand and seven, they were rolled
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: up outside Combat Operating Post Cobb based Combat Operating Post
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: in Shawn and Gosh, I forget. I think four were
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: rolled up in total. One body was recovered fairly quickly,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: found floating in a river by a spotted by helicopter
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: pilot and then we searched for months when uh like
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: Rudy found blood evidence in a village called oh A
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: sat looking for those guys and yeah, so, but yeah,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: when we first started we were looking for Matthew Moffin,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: and then it expanded to the Tenth Mountain guys, and
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: then it expanded further because the whole time I was there,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: we would explain the capability, the cadaver dog capabilities go
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: to the palace as different people who came in would
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: explain through de Mourt and whatnot. We were there, we
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: were tasked with working both Afghanistan and Iraq. I personally
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: never went to Afghanistan, but like one missing person he
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: was I think they were dropping supplies and he tried
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: to go in at army guy to recover the supplies
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: in Afghanistan. But one of the dog handlers Kathy Holbert,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: She's from West Virginia. She very familiar with water turbines
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: and dams and working fast moving water, so she was
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: really able to look at the water itself say there's
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: a there's a water turbine here, looking the turbine. So
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: they recovered his body without the handler ever having to
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: step foot there. So a lot of knowledge that we
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: have we can just explain to someone else, you know,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: the people on the ground look for this or look
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: for that or so. Yeah, and it's a learning experience
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: like we were all like, I was a stupid girl.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: I had never worked in a combat area. I'm walking
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: like right down the middle roads. At first, I had
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: to learn not to get not to be a target,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: and I learned to. Like I came up running tracks
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: for tracking dogs at night, you know. So that's how
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: I got comfortable in the swamps at night, was running
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: tracks for the life find dogs, and uh so I
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: had I would deliberately make it easy on the dogs,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: you know. I had to leave little scent pads and
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: i'd scratch off and I'd make it easy for the
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: handlers to see my footprints. But after I had worked
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: over there and I started taking some seer classes, I ought,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: like once I came home, when I go out in
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: the woods, now I'm deliberately trying not to leave tracks,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: and I have to think, Lynn, you're not evading the
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: enemy here, because that's where my brain now goes automatically.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: Because the most dramatic experiences of my career were over there,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: and the most potentially fatal mistakes that I made. And
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: I had multiple heat injuries because I have ADHD and
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know when to stop. So I had a
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: heat injury in Panama. I had a heat injury during
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: my land navigation course. And each heat injury that you
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: have makes you more prone to another heat injury. So
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: it helps and that I'm able to spot it with others.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: Like I'm on one of the tenth Mountain searches, had
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: a lieutenant down on a search. They're working our dogs
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: past the point of working. We're did. They're putting us
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: on foot patrols and uh no detection dog. Once their
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: body heat rises, their nose stops working. So I was
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: I was usually put with either a medic or the
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: radio guy when I would go out with these guys,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: And so we're going too far. The medic he's having
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: an obvious heat issue. He's red and white blanched. And
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: we're like taking shelter in an orchard grove and resting,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: and I like throw Rudy's leash off and I start
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: yelling and his guys we're pulling his boots off and
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: pulling his clothes off and exposing his belly and pouring
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: water on him and stuff. And the guy looks up
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: at me and he's like, you you know my mom,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: cause I'm like thirty six at the time, and these
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: guys are eighteen, nineteen, twenty years old. And this lieutenant's
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: on the radio and you know, he's we need this
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: and da da da, and you know, I'm once again
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: popping off, going well, you know, the only person who
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: could treat us here is having a heat issue himself
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: and we're running out of water and da da da
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: and just laying into this lieutenant. And so of course
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: I go back. I'm like, crap, I'm fired. I'm fired.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: I'm just totally my first mission out and I'm completely fired.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: And like when I get back to bag Dad, the
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: guy who set me out, Sergeant first Class Love, he'd
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: sent me out, He's like, these guys are natural born killers.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: You got to be hard out there. You got to
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: do this. And I come back and I don't like,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: none of these guys are telling me anything. But I
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: get off the helicopter and walk in and he shakes
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: my hand and he's like, I heard what you did
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: out there, thank you. And you know, because I mean,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: lieutenants are only as good as their first sergeant. And
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: you like, a lieutenant is, yes, they're an officer, but
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: there don't have a lot of experience. So first officer
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: is usually put in anyway. But yeah, you're.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: Just tough as nagles land and you you had baptizing
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: the fire on that one very much.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, we're walking by a cow that its
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: leg had been blown off, a dead cow, and you
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: know we're not like, this is definitely not Kansas anymore.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Well mt says. Mike says, at that time,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: I was fifty six Striker brigade around one hundred and
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: twelve infantry. It was early two thousand and nine was
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: more accurate. He said.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: I rolled with a striker brigade several times. We were
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: at Triangle of Death most of the times I worked,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: And yeah, there's not any room in there. You're crammed
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: in like a sardine. Can you think these big vehicles
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: and these big guys that you would have room, but
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: you don't. Your your knees to knees and elbows to elbows,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: dogs at my feet, crammed in amongst these guys. And
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: but you work with a group after a while and
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: they adopt you, they adopt the dog. They're like, this
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: is our girl, this is our dog. You don't mess
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: with them, you know.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: So it was cool, that's excellent.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: He said.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: The information that he said that he got wasn't much.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: Wasn't much. There was a contractor that was killed. His
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: remains were buried somewhere, but there probably were intel with
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: the handler and the higher ups, he said, So he
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: didn't know a whole lot.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: There are still people missing. There is a truck driver
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: named Terry Bell who was never brought home. Some contractors
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: and people were turned over to the embassy for the reward.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: There's a large reward offered for people. But yeah, that
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: could have been. Yeah, some contractors were There was a
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: master sergeant that had retired came back as contractor. He
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: was killed and we looked for him for a while,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: so it may have been to him.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: Well, my uncle I think was over there around that time,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. He was actually eighty second airborn
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: and a commander. He retired as a command sergeant major,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: and but he stayed there working for Haliburton. I think
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: like contracting seven Callog Corporation or something like that. I
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: don't know, something like that, okay, but but he did
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: it for a long time.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: And uh so for a while, Yeah, you get addicted
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: to the adrenaline rush. You believe in the mission. You
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: feel like what you were doing is part of it.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: You will hide your own injuries and uh yeah, so yeah.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: Max is crammed in like vainer sausages instead of sardines.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: That's right, that's fun.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: That's really funny.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: Lynn.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you. We got we got a
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: lot of questions to go over today. Okay, after I
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: ask you this, But I mean, I have I have
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: a picture that I don't know if you sent me
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: this or if I'm not just taking it off your
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: website on Facebook. But but this is you tell me
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: what's going on here? Is this a mass grave? This
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: is you and your dog right here over in Iraq?
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: Correct, this is a bath party house on Camp Slayer.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: It uh has the remains of actually it's over two
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: hundred people now that I I think it was two
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: hundred and twelve or two hundred and fourteen people. We're
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: still in place. So it was a training exercise to
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: expose the dog's nose to large amounts of two mass grapes.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: Basically, Wow, that is interesting. Okay, So this is this
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: is in the element right here, and uh and so
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: that place had to have been energized. I guess this
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: is a good way to describe it. Right, what what
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: kind of do you do you ever get? I know
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: you're an EmPATH, right, you're an EmPATH. Are you picking
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: up on the trauma of all this land while you're there?
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: And how did how did that affect you?
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: Heavy? Hard to breathe? You get nauseous, hot headache? Yeah?
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: Was there?
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: Of course I got to ask you this because I
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: was actually somebody put me in some little video or something,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: me and Nick Sylvester, supposedly Nick but about dog men
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: in the Middle East. Okay, I know, I got to
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: kind of I gotta kind of bridge this a little
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: bit here with some cryptid stuff. And there are a
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: lot of cryptids in the Middle East, a lot of cryptocting,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: especially dog men gin as well a lot of a
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: lot of creepy entities over there. Uh. I would assume
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: that you have encountered stuff like that. I would assume
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: being out there on these mass graves and places where
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of bloodshed and trauma and things like that.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: Did you have any experiences like that while you were overseas?
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: No? But I was not really at a place in
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: my life where I was open to that. I mean,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: when I traveled when my mom passed, and I did
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: all of that, and I, you know, I just grew up.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: I would fuss out them. It was part of life,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: you know. Stopped turning on my radio when I turned
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: it off, stopped turning my TV off in the morning
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: when I So it wasn't just but I did not.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: And most of the time when we were out there,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: there was a whole lot going on. Like we didn't
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: go out unless we had full security. And so I
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: don't think there's gonna be a whole lot of weird stuff.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: And at night, like I'm not you know, I'm a woman.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: And even on missions we were our job depended that
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: we stayed with the whoever we were past to be with.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: We were marines or army or whatever. So and they
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: had night vision, and the land is flat, so you
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: wander off trying to find a secret place to do
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: your business, and there is no secret place to do
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: your business. So and they are those guys are a
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: lot of fun and they but they can also be
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: a giant painted butt.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: So hey, listen, when we're out in the woods. I
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: always have to make sure I'm not around anybody with
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: night vision. When I have to go we call water trees. Yes,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: it's a little t m I for the audience, I'm sure.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: But but you know, when you're out there in the
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: woods with the bigfooting crowd, you know, crypto crowd, everybody's
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: got night vision and thermals and stuff, so be careful
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: who you're camping near. Okay.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't hide your clums and clumsiness. You can't
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: hide your potty breaks, you can't, you know. And they've
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: got ears, like electronic ears. So if you're gonna sit around,
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: because I've done this myself gossiping about people, someone's gonna
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: hear you.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: That's well, that's the same when you're out doing bigfoot stuff.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: Because everybody's got a recorder, people have those bionic ears.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: There's nothing, nothing is secret out there. Okay. So that's
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: why I only go in the woods with people that
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: I trust, trust one hundred percent, that aren't going to
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: watch Nobody wants to watch me anyways. Okay. But but
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's it's similar. It's similar.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: True fun, Well, that's the same kind of guys. You know,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: they're they're fun, but they are guys and you. But
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, we do the same stuff when you got
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: a I love I am with a group of girls
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: and cackling and making lewd jokes. I mean when I
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: was over there, a lot of the dog handlers that
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: were there were female. So you know, Lieutenant Pooky Pie
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: was one of by crushes. And you know, so you know,
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: we are very much in tuned, I think some ways.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh, Mike. Mike says, this is empty. That
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: was in Iraq two thousand and nine. He said, places
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: like that in Iraq, especially where I view first and
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: lots of death, makes you feel sick to the stomach
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: to be around. And the smell is something you'll never
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: forget as well.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I uh. After I worked Hurricane Katrina, I
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: was there for like ten weeks after the flood, and
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: once I got home for a week afterwards, every time
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: I washed my hair, it fluffed that odor up again
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: because the add up the sear and the greasy substances
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: of and it's like bleach. When you clean with bleach
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: and the odor hangs in your nostrils, it will do
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: the same.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: Oh that's what. That's what the guys on my team
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: who went up to the body farm said. They said
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: that you just can't get that smell out of your
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: system no matter what. And don't you do you wear
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: like stuff in your nose, like you put like nose
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: plugged on, Like how do you even deal with that?
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: When? No, because you will be picked on by your
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: other people. Yep, you can't have a part of it,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: dang it, and you will be Look, you will be
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: haze too. Like I've been sent to pick up a
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: load of gnarly towels and uh because nobody else wanted
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: to deal with them. They had been a body had
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: come in after being buried, and like these the towels
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: were full of blow maggots, big gnarly. So carrying it home,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: I'm like hanging out the window with the window open,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: and it was terrible. And after that I learned, all right,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: we're gonna mount some stuff to the vehicle so we
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: can put the coolers that we carry that stuff outside
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: the vehicle so I don't have to live with it
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: inside me.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: People be like, what is that smell coming down the street?
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: I need to check the dead body back there? Oh man,
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: I mean we're I mean we're it's yeah, you know,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: always try to make light of stuff a little bit,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: and like find a little bit of humor in this
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: because it's really really sad stuff here, you know we're
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: talking about. But uh, but at the same time, it's
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: so important at what you do. Bruce Bruce has actually
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: been to the body farm. Bruce Brown's in the chat.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: Hey Bruce, he said, put vaciline in your nose, yeah, or.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: The mentholated kind so that you only smell the mentholated stuff.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Uh well, I would be worried that
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: even that would like get stuck, like a smell would
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: get stuck in that vascilline and make it even worse.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: It will it will.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: Danged if you do, danged if you don't. Okay, is
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: what it sounds like. But uh man, yeah, I have
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: no no plans to go with the body farm anytime,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: saying personally, okay no, but uh but you know there
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: have I have been talking a lot about these this
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: dead bigfoot body that's allegedly been found up in the
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: adirandas Okay, and uh, I don't know. I don't believe.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's a real bigfoot land. I don't know.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: Have you been following that I'm not following, but I
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: saw it.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: No, there's no way. I mean, being a cadaver dog handler,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: what do you think that's even possible. This guy has
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: found a dead bigfoot and like nobody's come to pick
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: it up, like the government or anything. Nobody's questioning it.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, allegedly for entertainment purposes. Only my opinion only.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, just your opinion. Okay, Well, have you ever Okay, Now,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: this is whether you're out there tracking or doing any
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: kind of a course, or you're actually on the scent
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: of you know, cadavers, dead bodies, if you ever come
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: across anything strange, because I know you sent me a
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: couple of pictures that looked like you might have run
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: into maybe a bigfoot.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: That actually was part of Carrie Arnold. He passed away
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: a while back. I'm a breast cancer survivor. His mother
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: had passed of breast cancer, and he is from a
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: part of Mississippi that my mother's family is from. So
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: I came in to do Bigfoot Odyssey one hundred and
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: sixty eight hours as a first aid person and expert
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: on the environment, subject matter expert of the swamps because
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: I had spent so much time searching for people in
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: swamps and whatnot, and so that particular area, I was
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: just out taking pictures of the plants, and I was
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: interested in the mounds. I just started researching the native tribes,
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: the ancient native tribes here, so I was just trying
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: to photograph the slope of the mounds various things. And
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: I had there had been a sighting the day before
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: by two of the researchers, and I went out with
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: the one photo that looks like something running away with
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: something on its hip. I was. I went down below
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: the mounds to one of the ancient canals that's from
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: the natives, thinking there would be water there, and I
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: was getting freaked out, like I was totally scared. Something
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: felt off, and I just pointed the camera. I took
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: one photograph and then I ran back to Barry because
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: I'm yelling at him. I'm like, Barry, come here, and
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: Barry's already feeling weird. He's like, no, you come here.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I snapped that and then I hauled butt.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: And then the other photo was just I wanted to
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: take a to show the slope of the mound. And
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: I got to looking at the photos later and saw
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: something weird in the background.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, I think you might you might just have you
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: a bigfoot hanging out back there. Lynn, that's pretty cruel.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: What kind of a is that? Like an Indian burial mound?
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: It is the uh, it is several mounds. That particular
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: area is mounds and ditches. You can actually, I think
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: Jimmy Barr schedule does a camp out there that you
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: can camp right in that area with. They do it
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: like boy scout groups and whatnot. At Dupui Wildlife Management
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: Area in Florida. It's it's east of Lake Okeechobee And yeah,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: so it's mounds and stuff. So there's bigfoot, there's panthers orbs.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: Every night it's like a light show every night you
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: sit out there in the dark. We sat out there
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: night after night and it was absolutely We saw red orbs,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: blue orbs, big basketball sized like amber colored orbs that
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: looked like something was inside of it, and like running
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: the free line around us. There's an old home place there.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: A Florida family had come in because this uh the
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: natives of that area were killed out four hundred years ago, uh,
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: totally wiped out. So these mounds and canals and ditches
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: have been not maintained for four hundred years and they
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: always hold water. There's always uh vegetation, there's always game
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: there and uh people are not allowed to really go
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: in and hunt, and there's a it's an open hunting area,
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: but in that particular area of the mounds, you're not
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: allowed to hunt or do anything stupid. And they do
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: have it's got to be like pressure plate sensors or
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: hidden cameras or something, because they know when you're there,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: and if you're not properly registered your vehicle and stuff,
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: a fishing wall life will show up and want to
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: know what the heck you're doing. And so, yeah, they.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: Got those flock cameras out here in the swamp.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: They do. They have a flock camera on Loop Road
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: where like the biggest alligator area is people feed the alligator.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: That's why I think they have it there to spot that.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you can't have.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: Ithere, but people don't take them chickens and stuff.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: Or what.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: People will do stupid things like Loop Road is actually
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: it's one of my favorite roads, but it's like a
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: it's an open dirt road.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: People I've said, a child sitting in the window of
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: a car like Dukes of Hazzard style directly over an
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: alligator in a canal underneath him, and freaked out that
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: child was gonna fall on top of the alligator. And
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: I took a friend of mine's daughter out there. I'm like, yeah,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: let's go bigfoot hunting, you know. So we're cruising and
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: she's the daughter is like eleven, twelve or so, and
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: we're cruising down Loop road and I'm letting out a
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: howl every so often, and we're looking, and so we
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: stop at this one area and I can tell her
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: face change. I've changed. I'm driving and she's like looking
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: out of the passenger side and I can see her
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: face change. I'm like, is there an alligator there? She's
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: like yeah. So I stopped and we get out, and
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: the alligator starts crawling and coming toward us, and I'm like,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: get the car, get the car, Get in the car.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: And so, yeah, some of them get fed. And if
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: it was just me, it would have been fine, but
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to feed my friend's child to an
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: alligat And uh yeah.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: My my parents used to take my sister and my
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: brother and I to walk holl the springs we were kids,
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: and we used to swim with the alligators. Oh yeah,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: so like I'm not over here, I'm not gonna clutch
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: my pearls today, Okay, because I know I was. I
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: was one of those kids that was in the water
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: with the alligators when I was a kid. And uh,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: and I joked around about. First of all, I had
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: to learn how to swim really fast trial by fire, okay,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: and uh and I had to if I wanted to live.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: I give believe my parents did that. I still don't.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: But uh, but because we would swim out to a
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: dock and then we we'd get to the dock and
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: the only thing that stopped the alligator from coming into
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: the swimming area from the glass Bottom boat area and
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: the Jungle Boat cruise area was a rope. Yeah, it
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: was a rope in a lifeguard. That was it. Yeah,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: So we swam for our lives.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for the most part, they don't mess with you
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: unless they been fed. You. You know, it's the same
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: with anything. You know, A fed bear becomes a nusts bear,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: a fed alligator becomes a Nusts alligator.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well, hopefully they were feeding those alligators
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: pretty good and not the kids out there. That's wild.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's A. It's a.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: It was one of.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: Those core memories of my childhood. Though for sure I
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: don't think my parents remember it the same way that
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: I remember it, of course, But but that's just the
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: that's just the nature of the game, you know. Okay,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: but uh but you know.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: So there were some questions about that the picture that
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: you had, there were some orbs and stuff. Of course
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: that it's very dusty in Iraq, so some people were
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: wondering if those were orbs, maybe like spirits. Uh my
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: personal being, I would say, that's probably dust. What do
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: you think when.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: My camera didn't show dust anywhere else?
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: Oh it didn't. Okay, I pulled that, I.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: Took other pictures. It was only in that room that
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: that camera showed that.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: Well, that's really cool, So maybe those are spirits.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I have another picture of one of the gentleman
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: I served with in Alpha Palace, and he ended up
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: giving him a puppy later him and his family. But
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: he's got my dog and dogs. He was an Air
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: Force guy and had been a law enforcement officer in Thomasville,
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: Georgia before he joined the Air Force. So he was
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: part of my chain of command and we would go
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: to the shootingway. He's posing with the dog, and the
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: dog had like a number six level security badge, which
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: is the highest. Because you don't the dog. The dog
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: always outranks you and no one's worried about the dog
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: telling secrets, so they have the highest security level. And
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: so anyway, he's posing with the dog with a higher
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: security level than he is. And anyway, it's cute, but
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: there's orbs there, like in the palace around him and
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: my dog. So it was I'm like, so only in
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: areas where and there was lots of death there, like
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: you can see you can watch old footage of special
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: Forces taken over alphaol Pilace and you know, so it
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: was lots of stuff went on there.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: Whoa, oh my gosh, lots of lots of spirits that
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: probably are not at risk, I would think too. I mean,
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: we get so much. That's why I'm so curious about
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: this two of these, especially with the mass graves. We
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: have a concentrated area of cryptid activity wherever there are
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: like civil war and revolutionary war battlefields, especially down here
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: in the South and up through Gettysburg all over the country,
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: you know, but mostly down thousand of the East Coast.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: That's the same down here with the Seminole wars. Like
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: just because these like the mound areas, the ancient tribes
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: that were decimated by the Spaniards through forced labor, no
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: resistance to diseases, and superior weaponry. Like the people down here,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: the natives down here, they were huge compared to the Spaniards,
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: Like you'll find accounts of really tall people like they
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: would be like six foot one or six foot five.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: The natives here went at the time, the average Spaniard
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: was five foot six. So in a hand to hand battle,
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: the natives had more reach and had the advantage because
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: they were bigger, stronger guys. But the Spaniards had weapons
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: like the guns, the booms, so and diseases that you know,
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: and biological warfare is not new. It has always been
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: from the time that man figured out, Hey, these people
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: get these weird little bumps if you contaminate this or
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: these people died, you know. But humans are the most
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: evil critter on the face of land as far as
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: I'm considered. But uh yeah, it's uh. But those mounds
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: like they were, those natives were gone. But the Seminole wars,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: the Seminole and Mikasuki, which are actually Creek members of
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: the Creek tribes that came down to kind of fill
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: in the void that was left by the ancient tribes.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: They utilized those areas during the Seminole Wars, and there
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: were three different time periods of Seminole Wars and uh
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: to hide from the troops, and they were like, there's
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: a storied legend of Hungry Land Wildlife Management area that
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: when the Brigadiod's when the brigadoons yeah, went in to
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: surround this group of Seminoles. They had kind of gotten
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: into this hammock. The Indians came out to parlay with them,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: and they said, this is our homeland and the dragoons
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: that's it. Dragoons told them this will be your hungry land.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: And so every night the natives would build fires around
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: the edges of the hammock for light so they could
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: see if the dragoons were coming in toward them. And
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: every night these fires were lit for three weeks straight
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: until one night there were no more fires. The dragoons
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: went in and they found one black Seminole woman who
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: had slowly starve to death, who had kept those fires
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: lit so that her people could escape and live. And
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: that is like the base of the Mkasooki tribe now
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: and it is the legend of weird lights, flickering lights,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: and have been there for hundreds of years. And that
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: in that particular area is thought to be hungry Land woman,
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: the legend of hungry Land woman. Wow.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: What a tough is nails woman right there? I mean, wow,
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  Speaker 1: that's an amazing story. I've not heard that before.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, very much. That's there. The uh, all of
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: America has these stories, you know, all battlefields all you know,
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: women were always a part of war, whether they chose
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: to be a part or not, you know, so I
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: just looked at it as choosing to go at your
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: own way, that's right.
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  Speaker 1: I even named my company after war. I just called
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: war woman, okay, war Women, just to almost like memorialized
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: all the tough women. Okay. And of course there's some
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: cherokey you know history behind that as well, with the
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: war women, the war woman, right, and so man, that's fantastic,
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: Well that could be. You know why there's you know
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: places of like sacred ground like that that's where the
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: cryptids are found and h and some say they're there
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: because they have been summoned there because the land has
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: been cursed or the land has been blissed, right and uh,
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: and so they're there to protect that land at all costs.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: And that's the bigfoots, the dog men, everything whatever's out there.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: I'm a member of a group called of Hungry Land Homeowners,
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: which I don't own property out there. When they figure
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: out I don't, they'll probably kick me out. But I
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: occasionally ask a question, Hey, has anyone seen anything weird
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: out there? Because I saw very weird things out there,
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: and other members of there their people I was there,
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: saw very weird things. Most of the time I get yeah, yang, yeah,
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: But one person said yes, I went out. We went
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: out or two groups of friends and uh, they encountered
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: something the shape of nightmares. It was like, okay, what
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: is what would be the shape of I mean a
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: dog man would be the shape of a nightmare to me,
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: or an angry skunk cape you know that would be
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: a nightmare to me. Oh, I think I've can I
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: hear you? I can't hear you. Ah, hang on, I
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: gotta hang on a.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 3: M hm.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: That's can you hear me? Okay? I cannot hear you?
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: Oh no, Oh, actually I had the mute button push y'all,
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: So it was me. Oh my gosh, she's out there
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: was her? Okay, it was me the whole time. I'm
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: over here talking and I had my mute button pushed. Callie,
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: I tell you what, I'll tell you what. That was
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: my fault. I actually, Lynn, that was all my fault.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: I had the mute but pushed on. So it wasn't
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: you at all. That was me the whole time. Oh crap,
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: I was sitting here. I was sitting here talking and
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: I had the mute button pushed. So uh, somehow that happened.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: Hey, you do occurs.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: It was me.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: It was me.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: This is gonna go in the bloopers reels. Okay, that
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: was my That was my bad. But but yeah, now
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: I forgot. We were talking about okay, after we were
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: talking about the war, women and stuff.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, button, Yeah, it's all good. Yeah. So I
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: like doing all of that stuff. I anything spooky or
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: weird and I'm in. I took some friends out to
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: Red Dumont and Natalie Spearman, RYL. Peacock and Bob I
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: don't know Bob's last name anyway, I took them out
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: to check out the calusive spook light, and Bob wasn't
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: sure that, Like they had all their expensive night vision
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: and stuff, and Bob wasn't sure he had locked his
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: jeet so and I didn't feel so with Bob just
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: going back alone, so I split off from them. Stomp,
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: my dogs are being bad, So I split off from them.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: Bob and I go back and we're checking out the
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: snakes and stuff and bugs and you know, like moths
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: and stuff have glowing eyes, and we're just nerding out
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: as we're going along, and suddenly we hear Marie and
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: Ryl and Natalie screaming, and we looked back and they're
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: running out and they didn't see a light, but something
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: was stalking them in the dry long grass, you know,
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: and they could it was getting closer and closer to
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: them as they were moving and was freaking them out.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: And Natalie pulled out her bear spray and just sprayed
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: the heck out of them and took off running. And
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: so I went back the next day and I found
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: a panther track, and panthers don't normally track or mess
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: with people, but like one of the spirit animals and
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: protectors of the collusive tribe is a panther woman. So
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: I tell them maybe they encountered the panther woman. This
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: is an actual reproduction that came out of a dig
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: on Marco Island. So this was one of their deities.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: And they have pass that. Some of the masks look
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: like bigfoot mask or bigfoot.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: Faces, like a booger mask.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: A booger mask, Yeah, like their medicine men would wear.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: And yeah, wow, that's fantastic. That's actually quite scary. There
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: are lots of they say there's no black panthers around stuff.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: Oh there's panthers there, mountain lions and panthers and all that.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, my goodness. Their football team is called that
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: is that the Jacksonville Jaguars or something. Yeah, they're Baguards,
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: all right. So they're out there.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: And now one of my friends, she's a member of
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: the panther clan. She's Betty Osiola. So yeah, it's absolutely.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: Oh man, well that's really cool. Now the panther woman.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: I need to look into that a little bit more
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: for sure. Sounds yeah, that sounds awesome. Well, then we
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: have we have a couple of questions. Let me see
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: if it will hit these before we go today. Okay,
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: I think we might have talked about most most of these.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: Let's see can Okay, Beverly wanted to know, can any
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: type of a dog be trained to be a human
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: remains finder? Okay, like a cadaver dog.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: It is not considered a good thing for say a
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: flat face breed like a pug or a French bull
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: dog like I have. But as you want over the
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: top toy drive, I mean, all this dog wants is
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: a toy, a ball, a flat tug. They would run
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: over someone to get to the toy. They would run
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: through fire to get through the toy. So that is
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: and you can bond them and somewhat build that drive,
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: But you start with a dog that just wants hunt, drive, hunt,
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: drive and play drive or what you're looking for?
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: Wonderful, thank you for answering that. Uh, let's see Boogie
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: wants to know. And all the bodies found. What is
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: the most common reason for deaths? Is there a pattern?
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: Do you see patterns with the deaths of people that
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: you're searching for?
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean I'm generally called out for or would
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: be called out for a state side. It would be
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: a homicide or a disaster. Uh, just Uh, and it
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 2: could be you know, all kinds of different reasons. I've
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: I've worked areas where there was a group of marijuana growers,
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: car thieves who killed one of their own and you know,
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: so there's this huge alligator was old phosphate mine and
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: so generally homicide or if I went out, it was
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: gonna be a bad thing or an accident, you know,
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: suicide or someone lost their life when they didn't plan to.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's never a good thing, that's for sure.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: That sounds that sounds really just tough. So man, that's
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: that's really it's kind of terrible, but it's also wonderful
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: that you're out there to help with that. And Bence
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: has a question here, Beth, She says, has Lynn done
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: missing four one one people? Like have you gone out
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: and any of the cases or like miss people missing
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: our national parks? Have you ever done any of those cases?
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: I searched in national parks, but we've generally those were
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: found or I'm not sure nothing stuck out me from there.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: But there are too many instances of portals and listening
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: to people talk about portals and seeing it, and I
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: believe anything as possible. There are a lot of different
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: ideas about portals and quantum physics, and some thoughts that
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: it doesn't take, like something doesn't have to come all
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: the way through a portal, like poof, I'm a whole bigfoot,
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: but could just push a hand through and push you
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: down if they wanted to mess like open a portal,
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: push down at a certain area, because I've heard things
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: about that. But there are weird things in the world
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: of which we are still learning, and I would not
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: put portals past it.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: Oh No, My team has documented a portal out in
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: the field at an undisclosed location here in the south
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: somewhere one of our research areas, and sent two of
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: the gentlemen to go check it out, and they have
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: since passed away, both of them. But but that was
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: it's very dangerous, you know, when you're when you're dealing
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: with the areas that you go to. It's very much
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: like where we're going and investigating cryptids and stuff. There's
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: you know, anytime there's any kind of paranormal activity, we
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: get spikes of radiation out there and stuff. So we've
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: got to be really careful out there, Lynn, And I'm
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: not sure how to protect so much against it, you know,
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: if you don't see it, you don't know where it's at,
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: you know. But but we're we're picking up on stuff
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: like that out in some of these areas where there's
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: high concentration of cryptids.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: So got it.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: One more thing to have to look out for, basically
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: word exactly. Oh man, Well, I think we've covered men.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a lot more questions. Those are the
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: ones that I had put stars on today and I
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: have thoroughly enjoyed this today. Lynn Gosh, I really appreciate
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: you coming out and hanging out with me today and
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: explaining to the audience and myself all about cadaver dog
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: handling and some of the encounters that you've had out there.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: And thank you for sharing those pictures with us today.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: And we're quite welcome. I've had a blast. Thank you.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: I hope people come back and hang out with me.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: I actually want to come down there. Maybe we'll go
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: snake snake wrangling one day or something.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Absolutely, I'll take you out and we
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 2: can look for orbs and go skunkate tracking. And I mean,
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: I just I say I've changed my search and rescue
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: end up searching for creditors now use a lot of
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: the same methods, so why.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: Not we sure do. Actually, you know, some of some
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: of the most fondest memories of some of the guys
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: on my team if something they have is going down
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: to the Green Swamp. I hear about the Green Swamp
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: all the time from them. I know Craig. Craig got
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: ran out of there one night he had to go
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say water or tree or something. I
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: don't know what he was doing, but anyway, see, I
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: had to go and and apparently there was some kind
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: of big, old alpha bigfoot down there and chased them
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: out out of there, literally screamed and ran them out
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: of there. At that think after a hurricane or something,
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: he said.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I could. I could imagine, like hurricanes come with
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: barometric pressure, and barometric pressure changes gives me headaches. I
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 2: had seen it affect dogs on a search. Yeah, so,
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: and I would think that any of these weather changes
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: would affect every other animal out there that I have.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 2: Burrowing owls in my yard and the burm over by
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 2: my house. They were gone with where the hurricane came
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 2: in and it took the months to come back.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, oh my gosh. Well, that's uh, that's apparently.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, and here's here's my thing too. You know
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: we're talking about the bear mestric pressure and all that
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. I mean, I think the cryptids are
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: very much affected by all that, just like we are.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: And also all these frequencies and these energy weapons and
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: stuff when and uh, the.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: Towers, if you know what I mean, under water sonar,
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: X rays, light are all of these things are wonderful
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 2: technologies to help, but they are also causing issues I
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 2: think m hm ripples.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, well, now we're finding out there's under undersea
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: bases and I mean submarines all over the place too,
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. It all affects animals
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: that includes big foot and dog men. Kay, it just does.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. Well, this is this will be
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: to be continue because I want to bring you back
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: on the show some time then and and I would
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: love listen next time I'm down to Florida. I'll holler
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: at you, okay and we'll go down.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: Please. Do I have a whole library of spooky Florida
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: haunted stuff Cryptid So yeah, the torn.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: Down shoot, yeah, I'll be there and listen. You you're
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: from where I'm from, basically around the same area. So
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: next time you come up this way, you holler at me. Okay,
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: I was going to ask one word thing. You've never
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: been out to the Edawa Indian Mounts.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 2: I have. I did that as a field trip when
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 2: I was a wee teeny little knee how to gresshopper
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 2: kind of girl.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: You know, you know there's dog Man Sagnings. There's multiple
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: dog Man sagntings and reports ten miles from there, ten
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: miles sounds up in Paulden, North Paulding.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 2: Yep. And that waterfall has a graveyard up in the
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 2: Alden Yeah, yep, yep, that's right.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: Got cousins that live on that road. They didn't know
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: anything about the werewolf. I don't think a long time
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: that they do now I'm sure, but I don't think
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: they believe in all this. I know, I know it is.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: It is what it is there. They'll believe it when
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: they see it. Okay. So some people are they'd like
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: to keep their head in the sand. Okay, they don't
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: want to know. They don't want to know, okay, and
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: uh and I respect that. Good luck, good night and
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: good luck. But anyways, yeah, that doesn't come back to
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: bite you, I know, right literally literally? Oh man, Well, Lynn,
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: is there anything that you'd like to promote or you
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: Is there any kind of programs or anything you're working
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: on right now? What's anything you want to talk about
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: before we go today.
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 2: I have a very small channel. I have like eighteen subscribers.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 2: I tell my search and rescue story and uh on
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 2: that I go to the uh I go snake hunting.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: So over there you'll find just my stories and some
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 2: snakes videos of snakes where I just say, oh, this
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 2: is a water moccasin or copperhead or diamondback or whatever.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: We need that. What is your channel called?
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: It's a shoot, It's just this where I am. It's
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 2: just Linn Parsons. I think it's Lynn Parsons. Maybe Okay,
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: if I touch my screen, I will kill all the video,
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 2: all the audio. So maybe, uh maybe Gary knows where
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 2: it is.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: Hold on one second, We're gonna pull it up. Let's see. Actually,
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: I will put the link in the comments after the
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: show today on Carsons too. Okay, let's see if I
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: can pull it up. Well, there's another Limb Parsons. There's
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: a couple of Limb Parsons.
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, the Luna moth on it.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'll I have to find it after the show. Okay,
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: I'll find it after the show and U and I will,
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: but I will post your your link on there.
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 1: But y'all look up Limb Parsons on YouTube. Okay with
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: the loot Okay, Yeah, he has to describe listen snakes.
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 1: That's a very important thing for people to know. My
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 1: my buddy Chris Harper out of Georgia, he's he's gone
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 1: out with he's got with my Bigfoot research team a lot.
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 1: He's one of the leading in my book, He's one
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 1: of the leading uh venom venom experts I think, UH
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: in the country. He teaches courses on venomous snakes. And
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: if I already get bitten by a snake, I would
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: immediately call that guy, Okay, or I'd have somebody call
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 1: him and uh and so are you do you? You
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: work with venomous snakes?
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 1: I know you're anti right.
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like your aunt anti ven anyway, but yeah, I
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 2: volunteered with the Checko Island Sea Turtle Center for several
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 2: years and uh did was a docent in the gallery
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 2: and did seat turtle patrol and then worked with the
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 2: graduate student who was doing his stuff on venomous snakes
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  Speaker 2: and uh, box turtles. So I know a lot of
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  Speaker 2: really stupid facts about turtles and snakes and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: That's never stupid, that is never stupid. We got it.
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  Speaker 1: We got to know about our snake especially when we're
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  Speaker 1: out there in the woods like you and I both are, right,
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  Speaker 1: got to be able to know what what's out there
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  Speaker 1: and what to look for and when to wear our
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  Speaker 1: snake chaps out there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, snake boots. Snake chaps are too hot.
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  Speaker 1: They are, aren't they Sometimes I'm like me, I'd rather
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  Speaker 1: just get bit. I'm just kidding. We're all those hot boots.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 1: It's too hot. Yeah, but I'm kidding. Hang gaiters, hang gaiters. Man,
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  Speaker 1: are we are we a little bit crazy? I think
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  Speaker 1: you and I are both a little bit crazy. You've
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: been out there doing what we do.
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  Speaker 2: Probably.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Well, Lynn, thank you again so much
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  Speaker 1: for being here today. And uh and I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: also thank let me thank Let me get on the
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  Speaker 1: list real quick, because I was I muted myself, y'all,
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  Speaker 1: So I was thanking some of the people in the
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  Speaker 1: audience who have donated with the the ENGINEB and y'all
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 1: couldn't hear me? Okay, so h Angel, thank you so
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  Speaker 1: much for the supersticker, and Skip Skip, thank you so
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 1: much for the supersticker today, Calm J. Thank you so
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 1: much for being a member of the Hunt Club for
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  Speaker 1: eighteen months. That is so sweet. I appreciate your support.
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 1: And ENGINEB, thank you for the supersticker. She says, this
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  Speaker 1: has been a great show. Thank you Lynn for let's see,
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  Speaker 1: for sharing your experience. So thank you so much. Yes,
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 1: thank you so much, and yes, I just want to
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  Speaker 1: thank you to Lynn. Thank you again for your service.
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  Speaker 1: I think that you're doing a wonderful service to humanity.
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  Speaker 1: And congratulations on your new job. Thank you, Yeah for sure. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: all right, well any final thoughts. Do you have any
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  Speaker 1: words of advice before we go to day to the
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  Speaker 1: audience from your field of work and anything you'd like
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  Speaker 1: to leave the audience on.
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  Speaker 2: Today everyone goes out and even with GPS or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: you can find themselves turned around and stay in one place.
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  Speaker 2: Don't keep walking. Everyone has a dominant leg, so people
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 2: will naturally walk in circles because of the dominant leg.
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  Speaker 2: Pick a tree, hug a tree, sit down and wait
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  Speaker 2: for someone to come to you.
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  Speaker 1: That is really good advice. We need to tell our
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 1: kids that too, y'all. Okay, that's wonderful. Yes, don't. You're
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 1: just gonna get more loss if you keep watched, okay.
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  Speaker 2: And you're gonna become more dehydrated. You're gonna be more
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 2: stressed out. The more you are stressed out, the less
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 2: rationally you think. Sit down, breathe, be calm. You cannot
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 2: the most. You gotta have water, shelter. You can starve
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 2: for a while, but water and shelter are your two
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 2: main things you need to survive.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so learn how to build those debris huts.
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  Speaker 2: Listen.
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  Speaker 1: I think about ninety percent of the tree structure things
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 1: that people send me, the stick structures, they're all human
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 1: made and they're all debris huts. Okay, yeah, so learn
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: how to build a debris hut, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: I'll do it.
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  Speaker 1: We'll do we'll do somehow to videos one day over
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 1: here on the channel.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, we'll do how to and teach people everything.
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: That's what we need. Yes. In the meanwhile, my team
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: does have a tracking tracking video, and I may have
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 1: I may have one or two of those on my
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 1: website if you guys, I don't know if I saw
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 1: him on a website, but if anybody's interested you want
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 1: a tracking video that shows you how to make debris huts,
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 1: holler at me. We have some DVDs. We still have
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 1: a DVD play Real if you guys want to get
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 1: some of those. Okay, all great, Thank you so much
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 1: again for being here. Do you still have dogs today?
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 1: I heard you say something about your dog.
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 2: I do. I have a young Belgian Melanoa named Nora.
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 2: She's named after my aunt Nora, that was my protector.
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 2: She would have taken on a bear to protect me.
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 2: So Nora is now my protector. A French bulldog named Herk.
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 2: I have a dog named Squeak that I trapped in
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 2: the Everglades. It took me days to trap him, and
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 2: instead of rehoming him, he was so smart and fast,
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 2: I kept him. I called him. Do I have another mix?
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 2: And I have a uh Labrador mix named Daisy.
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, so you have a lot of dogs.
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  Speaker 2: You got a lot of dog rich. I am dog rich.
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 1: You're wealthy in dogs. I love that means that just
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 1: means wealthy in love, lots of love. Yeah, I love
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 1: that we'll tell your dogs. I said, hey, and I'm
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna get buddy into some training. Okay, I'm
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 1: gonna start training him and myself. I would like to
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 1: start doing some serch and rescue stuff. I think one
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 1: day that might.
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 2: Your son. So if your son gets lost, he knows
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 2: exactly who he's looking for.
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 1: That is a wonderful idea. I will. I'll do that.
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 1: We'll start taking him out in the woods to do that. Absolutely. Okay, Yes,
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be great. Okay, Well, y'all have a great day.
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 1: I hope you all enjoyed the show as much as
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 1: I did. Thank you so much to everybody who's been
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: in the chat today. I stuck around with us. Y'all,
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 1: come back and see me tomorrow night. I have Jimmy
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 1: Payin coming back on the show, and we're going to
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 1: be talking about Project Adam tomorrow night. And that is
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: actually where this actual government program where they were taking
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 1: children and turning them into super soldiers. And we're going
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 1: to also get into where a lot of these missing
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 1: four one one people have actually been taken. And this
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 1: is the real deal. This is for real, y'all. Actually,
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 1: and we talk about the secret space programs. We're talking
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 1: about off planet locations and things like that. It's going
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 1: to be super wild. It's gonna be really fun. So
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 1: y'all come back and see me tomorrow night. And I
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 1: don't mean fun like that's a good topic. It's really sad. Actually,
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a really great show. Former m IB
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 1: agent Jimmy Payn will be here tomorrow night. Okay, So Lynn,
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 1: thanks again so much for being here. Have a wonderful day.
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 1: I hope to see you soon in person. And y'all
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 1: stay safe out there, keep your head honest, swivel y'all,
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 1: but don't live in fear, and come back and see
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 1: me tomorrow night. All right, y'all, have a great day.
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  Speaker 1: By it.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's