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43. Dolphins in Chaos — Bo & Joe React to Chris Grier’s Firing and Miami’s Meltdown · Out to Pasture

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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't welcome back another out-to-past your Kimbo camp for Joe Rose and uh, hey, first of all, I got to talk about our sponsors, Sawgrass Automol.
• 0:46
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• 0:57
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• 0:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, yeah, in fiction.
• 1:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know, they're there.
• 1:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, obviously, we know we have a relationship with him over there.
• 1:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm watching the other people.
• 1:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Much of the other people coming in.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They're getting the same exact treatment as we get when we go in there.
• 1:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I can't say enough about what they were doing.
• 1:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC, New York.
• 1:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: everything and so yeah we're just so so my maintenance done for my Chevy last week great experience always in and out great stuff yeah so hey look it's just Joe and I today and and we're doing this because I think we've all uh I'm I'm going to use this terminology we've all had a gut full of this dolphin football team at this point I think
• 1:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: in a lot of ways, in a lot of ways.
• 1:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: First of all, you know, you come out of training camp with this team and you got high expectations.
• 1:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we got this big front seven that's going to play great, you know, the offense with Tua, you got Tyreken Wattle, we're going to run the ball and listen to that and boy, once you walk into the, you know, the, what does it still the RCA door them up in in Indianapolis and get your butts kicking from then on.
• 2:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Boy, it has been a trial, it has been
• 2:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: tough and I fans every day every week I see fans and everyone what the fuck is going on with this team, you know and you could probably say something different each and every week now you go through the trade deadline.
• 2:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're a Jalen Phillips that was kind of assumed that was going to happen and
• 2:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Chris Greer gets fired but to talk about that, champ Kelly comes in as the interim, is he going to be here for long, is he going to be here next year, how do you do how do you deal with that so this
• 2:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: This golfing ship right now is in choppy, choppy waters from top to bottom.
• 2:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Eight games left and boy, I'll tell you, blown out in three of the games had to be careful in there.
• 2:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got embarrassed, Thursday night by the way, I thought that Amazon game on Thursday night football.
• 3:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Boy, I thought that was it, bags on heads, 30 plus thousand.
• 3:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Baltimore Raven fans people even early and every time something was negative to had to do with the Dolphins They did the shot of the owner Yeah, it was box and I think he was embarrassed.
• 3:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think he was forced to have to do something in the next morning I don't know if he wanted to but again He wanted to see a competitive team and that thing ended up third time as I said they've been blown out
• 3:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: and can't learn how to haven't been able to figure out how to win close games.
• 3:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: So here we go, both the word is Mike, go out, be competitive, get better, win games.
• 3:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: See what you can do with two a chunk of my little is your quarterback.
• 3:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Cause we owe him a lot of money going forward.
• 3:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we'll go from there.
• 3:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and by the way, you got the Buffalo Bill's coming to town.
• 3:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and they're on a roll.
• 3:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they went, they went, nothing more to do than, you know, get out there, blow this team out in the first half and just move on and let's get back home and get back to business again.
• 4:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they come into out with a number one offense, number one rushing team in the NFL.
• 4:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I challenge playing like Josh Allen, who, by the way, has a 14 and two record when you count the playoff when against the dolphins, he's had great success here.
• 4:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see what happened, but I'm curious to see this been a weird three or four days first of all three or four guys were waiting all day Tuesday to figure out they're going to get traded or not on the phone with their agents.
• 4:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's close.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to happen.
• 4:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not going to happen.
• 4:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then all of a sudden, Wednesday pops around and say, Hey, back to work.
• 4:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go.
• 4:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's get ready to go against the Buffalo Bill.
• 4:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: So there's a lie going on and they lose one of their better players on defense in jailing.
• 4:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And, and here we go.
• 4:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, so how about you're a player on this team.
• 4:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the sink the ship is sinking.
• 4:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: and and now comes the trading deadline and Bradley Chub were you know rumor comes up today the 49ers they're they're hot after Bradley Chub a microfits Patrick he kind of pops up late in a 50 50 he's getting 50 50 that he's going to go and all these and anybody that's in that that group you're going to know well geez maybe I'll go to a better team and then nothing happens now you kind of come back and you go well I know the team doesn't want me
• 5:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that because it could be a good shot in me so, so how do you, you know, how do you go out of the player and commit completely to this football team?
• 5:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: And again, let's kind of go back to the beginning of this Chris career.
• 5:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, after the game, Stephen Ross has had enough and you knew it was either going to be Chris or Mike or both
• 5:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Chris goes because the personnel is just not playing up to the level of what they expect and I think everybody saw that coming so now now then you go right into trade deadline and you get champ Kelly in here.
• 5:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you give him full rain?
• 6:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: You give him full rain to the rest of the year.
• 6:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think so.
• 6:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how you.
• 6:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think so, but hey, Paypal, I also just want to mention as as you look at this this whole situation.
• 6:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just go back a couple years.
• 6:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: You want to go away back a couple years.
• 6:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: You had a whole bunch of first round picks and two years had a bunch of second round picks in two years.
• 6:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a big free agent class that a lot of money.
• 6:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: One of the most money of any team in the NFL for free agency and then on top of that, you go, that's not enough.
• 6:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: You go out and you trade, you give up some high draft picks, you trade to get a corner back, a wide receiver and a pass rusher, and you look at them both at the time I looked and I go, this is the best scene we've had in a long, long time boy didn't work out.
• 6:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: They gave it a shot, everybody knew we're going all in to try to speed this up, try to get a frigging playoff winner to, and it didn't, you know, and you look back,
• 7:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: to that, you know, the, the, the, but you could go back to when you'd, when you'd have to to it.
• 7:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was a polarizing choice.
• 7:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Some people wanted some people didn't and, and how was that worked out?
• 7:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you know, you've had, you've had one good year, but maybe one good year for two enough, but, but other than that, and, and, and look, it's hard to say it's hard to watch his football team.
• 7:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know there's a lot of to a fans out there.
• 7:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have kind of, I'm kind of over him a little bit.
• 7:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Make maybe more than a little bit.
• 7:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: But do you trust him to go out and be a guy that's going to take your team in the second half in the third quarter in the fourth quarter.
• 7:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: When you need somebody back there that's going to be a blood and guts guy, drive your ass down the field, put points in the board and steal a football game from somebody that's got to leave out.
• 7:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think to a has to have everything damn their perfect around them.
• 7:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: But he is women he's limited.
• 8:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think and I said this over and over.
• 8:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: But he then looked like the 20-23 guy.
• 8:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: They got the new contract.
• 8:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, it doesn't look like the same guy.
• 8:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, show me the money to me.
• 8:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was the beginning of the downfall.
• 8:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was very disappointed in that.
• 8:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: They gave him a 250 millows, a 200, whatever, a million down.
• 8:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just do 100 guaranteed.
• 8:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of forget the numbers because it's a lot of money.
• 8:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so instead of coming out in front of your fans,
• 8:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: that are spending money, ticket-wise, and that's another subject.
• 8:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got people coming to call me.
• 8:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I must renew my tickets.
• 8:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're at the fans' request.
• 8:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a big issue.
• 8:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so you have your quarterback, your franchise player, instead of coming out and saying, hey, I wanna thank all you fans for supporting me, for being on behind me.
• 8:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm happy to have this contract.
• 8:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I hope I can live up to it.
• 8:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: You come out there and say, show me the money.
• 9:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: And at that point, you know what, the air came out of the balloon for me when it came to to it.
• 9:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I lost a lot of respect.
• 9:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 9:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I haven't, and I haven't regained it to this point.
• 9:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 9:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was disappointing.
• 9:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, hey, he's got to do better in his press conferences too.
• 9:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my God.
• 9:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Some things like, you know, what about I couldn't get the calls out because the raven stands were too loud.
• 9:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the lady.
• 9:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: How do you think that goes over with Mr. Rossi and up there when you got your $200 million guy?
• 9:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Don't you can't hear it all say no what's no saying that yeah, it's him that our stadium We're doesn't doesn't support us.
• 9:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't hear because the other teams.
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's worth that Is that better than I'm a little too short and I can't see you over the ball or yeah Maybe the one in the meetings that guys aren't showing up to right right you got some classics in guys aren't guys are showing up to Team only team only meeting yeah
• 9:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Which you know, which by who you can't get fine for those.
• 9:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's not a team meeting.
• 9:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
• 10:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to take a while because of all this dead meat that we have.
• 10:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to take a while to build back up, but it's got to be, you know, I'm going to build up so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, you, you, let, let's say you, you, I'm not going to say it's better or worse, you've addressed the personal situation by, by relieving Chris Greer of his duties.
• 10:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 10:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 10:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now a new whoever did, whether it's going to be champ Kelly for, for, you know, for just the rest of the season or they're going to extend him as the new general manager.
• 10:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 10:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Or if it's somebody new.
• 10:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so if you're somebody new, you know, what's champ going to do for the next, you know,
• 10:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: eight games or whatever, whatever, I mean, games we've got to love.
• 10:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: What's he going to do?
• 11:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's just, he's a dead guy, I mean, there's none.
• 11:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, when the 40s you have, what can you do?
• 11:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the problem, the problem right now to me,
• 11:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: is when you look at this team and I know the personnel may not have been the best, but I think we have some good players on there that are playing very well and to me it boils right down to one thing and that's the guy leading the show and that's Mike McDaniel.
• 11:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just don't think this team has been coached or will be coached to the level it should be and it can you can you can you know Mike's a guy to have a ship Mike's a captain
• 11:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: But you know what you got to lift up that hood of the car and look at some of these assistant coaches because they're the ones that are coaching the positions and the some of these positions are playing as well as they should yeah Mike's Mike's an interesting one hey this one I get all the time what if the GM's not the new GM yeah says.
• 11:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: By the way, there can be a lot of guys wanting to go down and get me wrong.
• 11:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
• 12:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: It weren't all the names are going to be out there.
• 12:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: But it is interesting.
• 12:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, you got to get a GM and hate coach you and work together.
• 12:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
• 12:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: And every man at the end of the day, the GM's got final say, man.
• 12:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so, hey, I know your coach and the team, I know you liked what you want, you want to jump up and down, because you're passionate about your guys, but if the GM says, doesn't make sense.
• 12:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's got to be the guy.
• 12:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's got to be clear, but can't we?
• 12:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I heard too many weasel last year.
• 12:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: We feel this way, we feel that way.
• 12:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 12:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 12:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the one thing, you know, I like to see, you know, a John John Lynch and San Francisco, how he rosemen, you know, you see those guys that are at the top of their game and their teams are showing it.
• 13:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's good.
• 13:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but you see him interacting.
• 13:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I see him on the sideline.
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I see him at the games.
• 13:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I see him, I see him, you know, you know, they're on the sideline.
• 13:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: If he's out there and he's doing his job, getting these guys ready, I just want to see some toughness out of this football team.
• 13:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you've got to get a tough general manager that's going to be put his stamp on the team, not just sitting in the room, not being in your office, not doing that, just hanging around
• 13:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: pushing it off a little bit, but someone is going to make a difference, a difference making general manager.
• 13:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: How many times have we seen, look at the Detroit lines what they've done, not even know who their general manager is, but what they got with the Campbell, with Dan Campbell, and their general manager, they're in a lockstep.
• 14:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're in a lockstep with that football team.
• 14:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they're in a lockstep with that football team.
• 14:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're didn't tell you.
• 14:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Who got the tell us?
• 14:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 14:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: There.
• 14:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: So.
• 14:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, we got figured out, Bo, because we haven't been able to get that connection in a long, long time.
• 14:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: And this thing, bottom line, this is not about winning records.
• 14:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not about getting to a wildcard, but it's not winning playoff games.
• 14:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's never going to change.
• 14:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you want to know the bigger goal, it's the one that New England and Buffalo are fighting for right now.
• 14:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's the one the A of C E's can get homefield.
• 14:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what it's about.
• 14:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and so, you know, we were talking during the off season, and we were going, oh, you know, it's just so it's going to be the bills, it's going to be the dolphins, it's going to be the new it's going to be the New England and it's going to be jets here we are new England sitting at the top of the heat and and look at the personnel decisions that they made.
• 15:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: coach wise, player wise, this put him in this position.
• 15:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: They got a big offensive line.
• 15:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: They got a tough defense.
• 15:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: They found they found their quarter new quarter back.
• 15:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Got to quarter back.
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: They got to quarter back.
• 15:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: We did that.
• 15:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: They made a bow on top of that.
• 15:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: They hit on this draft.
• 15:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: That a big drop.
• 15:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: They love those two offensive lines they drafted and then all that money they spend on free agency and they hit yeah they hit some jackpots on that so you put that together with a coach that's got some experience and We had had a guy my radio show he said I think he's coach of the year with what he's been able to absolutely so variable and again you you see with a coach like that you see a tough football team
• 15:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: you see a tough football team that plays hard and and and look they may make some mistakes here and there but it's not it's not that look you look back at it you look back at it at the game last week and both team that the statistics are almost even yeah almost even like five I think it was five five five penalty five penalties each maybe six and five whatever the number was but
• 16:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: We've got him in the worst ways possible that the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the
• 16:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's all they won't do it again.
• 16:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, they won't do it again.
• 16:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I guarantee it.
• 16:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's not what my variable is saying up there.
• 16:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, that's not what Dan Campbell said up there.
• 16:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Look, I watch the Indiana.
• 16:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: That coach, I'm watching the game.
• 16:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're up by 20 something points.
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: there's someone someone phone was a ball that I runs it in for a touch down and he's motherfucking that guy when he's coming out to celebrate I mean he wants to choke the guy out I know when sorry guys make mistakes people want to see coach you know me Daniel do something with it sit a guy take playing time away cut him
• 17:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: That happens in this way too, and he's about positive reinforcement.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe too, too, too.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, so, so here's the other thing.
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: You got, um,
• 17:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: on the wall of catch, when all he gets call for tripping and Eric Susan's going to head to the offensive or the running backscoach.
• 17:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 17:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he so all he comes off the field and look, you could save that the penalty was, but this was bang bang.
• 17:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 17:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, if you're a coach in the sideline, you see the ball up in the air, you're going to turn your attention to that and you're looking at the ball.
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you didn't really see what I'm with all he, but you knew there's a penalty that took back a
• 18:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: You better you better let that guy in no no no uncertain terms that you can't do that.
• 18:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't care what happened stay on your feet
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: So so so so what comes out of that is oh the coaches being too hard on the players.
• 18:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I heard I heard that from so many people Yeah, how can the coach talk to a player like that?
• 18:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I said I want my coaches to I want everyone my coaches to talk to players like that Because there's a there's a situation that you've got to you you've got to you've got to you've got to rectify You can't fucking do that.
• 18:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you can't do that in this situation.
• 18:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's why we practice every day.
• 18:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: We do right and again to me
• 18:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: coaches that don't care about the details have no business being in this way up.
• 18:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: So if you come off and and everybody's patting on the back don't worry about it.
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it happens over and over again.
• 18:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Same guys have same penalties.
• 18:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 18:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: And nothing's done.
• 18:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then get better.
• 18:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm waiting both.
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then get better man.
• 18:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Guys got to be confronted.
• 18:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, if I can't if this kind of continue, I can't play you.
• 18:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I I remember being down on the on the sidelines.
• 19:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: This was this was when we had like
• 19:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Paul Solieye and I figured what year was winning a 2000 whenever year it was and there was a there that a kid we had a kick return and kick returner they kicked the ball I was a pun returner drops a ball fun bowls
• 19:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: but we but but our guy recovered.
• 19:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm looking at the returner coming and he's got a smile on his face, and then the coach goes to him, he's got a smile on his face.
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's right in front of me, but now you would I know you won't do it again.
• 19:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to happen again.
• 19:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah coach, I'm not, you know, I think.
• 19:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: next time, same thing happens again.
• 19:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Same exact thing happens again.
• 19:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the coach, and I'm saying, the two times in your coaches saying, oh, you, you won't do it again.
• 19:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: You, you, you, you know, I haven't patched it.
• 19:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry about it.
• 19:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry.
• 19:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, so that's, you can't do that in this week.
• 19:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, you, you, you, you can't.
• 19:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know, I know it's cool you come from a good one.
• 20:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you come
• 20:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Motherfuck when they made mistakes and you did you ever make you did you make a mistake not not No, no, I mean if you would know you whatever you had line up.
• 20:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: He lined up right on sign line to catch you And there's no way around them and getting back to that man.
• 20:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: She was waiting for it.
• 20:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we're out the past you really old school So so I remember this you know coach you was the only coach I've ever seen that could yell at you without saying a word
• 20:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you'd be like, I remember making a, I remember getting a holder, I faced mass somebody and I wasn't going to attack them, so I faced mass them.
• 20:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know it.
• 20:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I was better than having them.
• 20:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 20:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I look over and I see this, I look over the side and he's like this.
• 20:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
• 20:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: What the fuck?
• 20:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 20:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 20:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's that's the language.
• 20:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's the fuck.
• 20:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I will tell you, he was amazing.
• 20:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: everything that he saw on that boat.
• 20:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I see this and I look out and go, coach, he cut me, he cut me.
• 21:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Then you're like, I got the double side of the this, which is bullshit, right?
• 21:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: As we across the field, you go, what the fuck?
• 21:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then you can try to say, coach, but bullshit, you know, but there needs to be more of that.
• 21:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's, you know,
• 21:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just letting my fucking steam out right now.
• 21:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's been frustrating.
• 21:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think we speak on behalf of a majority of our families right now.
• 21:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: and the other thing both they got they got to be concerned with now man with this stuff people are no it's going to get better they'll stop buying tickets well there you go so i've been i i bytap but last really this last week i was in a i was in a place that i'd go to all the time picking up some you know some groceries and stuff
• 21:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm standing in line waiting, and this guy's talking to another customer about, well, you know, they're, you know, they're calling me.
• 21:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's time to renew my season tickets and, you know, geez, I don't know that I'm getting the value out of it.
• 22:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, you know, the tickets, I'm looking at the, I'm looking at what I pay, and I'm looking on, on, on C, C geek or whatever you own, and you can get them for half what I'm paying, and now they're calling me for my season tickets to renew.
• 22:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what to do.
• 22:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he goes, I'm running, so I have to the guy said, I think you're going to, because a lot, you know, I don't want, I don't want to, I've been a season ticket holder for me.
• 22:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he says, I don't want to, he says, and yesterday I was going to say, I'm, no, I'm not going to do it, and he says, now he says, now I'm, you know, now I'm leaning the other way, I think I'm going to do it, just because I've had him for so long.
• 22:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: But he says, man, I'm gonna tell you what, it's it's it's it's a hard decision and there's a lot of people that they're going to make that hard decision the other way and you're going to see more more fans in the stands then then you know then our guys throughout the rest of the season tough this job.
• 22:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, well, how do you think it's to be with the bills in town?
• 23:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was going to be a lot of buffers that you're asked there.
• 23:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: So the toughest job right now on that property, at Hard Rock Stadium property is that sales team that has to make calls to the season ticket holders.
• 23:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a tough job right now.
• 23:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, can you imagine what they get back?
• 23:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, so those jobs are occupied by the, they usually get young kids that cuts out a college.
• 23:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 23:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I have no, in terms or their first job, their first entry, it's an entry-level job, right?
• 23:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: You do the ticket sales and stuff like that.
• 23:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I know I've talked to you and, you know, some of these guys, the stuff that comes through the phone in their years.
• 23:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: The way they had nothing like there's a bunch of you, but I didn't drop a ball, I didn't have a penalty, you know, I'm not the one to give up the sack.
• 23:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's, it's, you know, you feel like so much of that place is run so well, well, at the main part of this thing is a football team and it's, it's not worth it.
• 23:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: It looks like close.
• 24:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm not, I'm not kissing up to anybody.
• 24:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I can tell you this, the, you know, everyone, everyone's, it's all the steven and all, I think I just, big, oh, hey, you got to get restyven steven and we're asking three to team, no, it's not his, it's not his problem.
• 24:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, now he may have picked the wrong guys, but that guy has done everything possible to give these guys the best opportunity to win a football game.
• 24:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I, I don't, I don't, you know,
• 24:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not in every team, but I would be, I would be reticent to say that there's, there's another football team that hasn't been given everything, they want it, and more.
• 24:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's food, best facilities, best by the way, best playing.
• 24:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, first class playing from front to the back.
• 24:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Everything's done first class.
• 24:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I always wonder, I say this on my radio show all the time.
• 24:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man does anybody ever call and apologize to Stephen Ross.
• 24:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: then what he's getting in your right bow.
• 25:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know people blame the well.
• 25:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not the money.
• 25:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: We made a clear this guy spends money like nobody's business.
• 25:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: The decision making is the part that's he's got to get right.
• 25:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 25:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: And look, if this is not a Johnny come lately thing, this has been going on now for 25 years.
• 25:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 25:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: You've been through a no go.
• 25:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: You've been through the Miami Dolphins.
• 25:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I want to play on him in 25 years.
• 25:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, you know, if you're to told me that,
• 25:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: in 2000.
• 25:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 25:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're crazy.
• 25:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: The way.
• 25:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, but, but, and look how far we are.
• 25:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're laughing stuff.
• 25:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Even a system that is set up through the draft and free agency.
• 25:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you can get like what the Patriots just did.
• 25:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: They were so bad a year ago.
• 25:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was the worst team talking to Jimmy Sefflow and I'm like, Jimmy, this is the worst Patriots team I've ever seen.
• 25:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: And look at one year,
• 25:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 25:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I don't know.
• 25:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's usually better.
• 25:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, I don't.
• 25:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I feel a little better.
• 26:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm still, you know, I'm, I'm, look, you and I are as much fans as we are, I guess what we're doing on the radio and TV or whatever we do.
• 26:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it fucking pisses me off every every week every time we play a game You get that little respite in between you get one game.
• 26:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
• 26:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now we can smile a little bit But then a week later you're right back in the same thing and then you're just this has it's been the most miserable football year I think I've been around because because I always funny you said I agree because I expect it coming out of training camp
• 26:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: that this team was going to be man we had a defense was looking like they're going to be at front 7's going to be moved when it's up front front 7's going to be you know and and you know you knew the secondary is a little bit issue you know offensive line you have two guys that haven't played one play three plays in the first game one play and you know what
• 26:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna say this, I probably shouldn't say it.
• 27:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: If I'm the coach, I'ma walk in that meeting and say, you two guys get about here.
• 27:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: We don't need you anymore.
• 27:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: We don't need you anymore.
• 27:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll pay you off whatever it is.
• 27:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you don't want to, I don't know how you can be on the sideline.
• 27:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Watch your team going down and not even try to get out.
• 27:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't want to hear y'all there, we have real, okay, yeah, you've been rehabbing for a fucking year.
• 27:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: After you've got a contract.
• 27:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: These are about right garden right now.
• 27:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I am I am.
• 27:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to name names, but yes, that's that's it.
• 27:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: To me, that's a travesty.
• 27:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, don't you try.
• 27:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: You don't even try to come out and play.
• 27:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're sitting there watching these guys die in on the field.
• 27:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I have a little bit of a dying, it's struggling and wanting to try it.
• 27:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Guys are like Aaron Brue, right?
• 27:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Guys like Jordan Brooks, Terrell Doxy, all those guys.
• 27:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there's all these chub, Philips, all these guys, you're busting their ass and it's going the long way and you're just sitting on the wall.
• 28:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: They both give it to the starting five on that offensive line.
• 28:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: They've been together for a while.
• 28:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they're saying, hey man, we're gonna get all snaps we can so this week we can play I like their attitude.
• 28:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would like to our starters Yeah, that's yeah, please please anyway.
• 28:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 28:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's enough.
• 28:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, right I'm just getting I'm digging myself deeper and deep.
• 28:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna have a bad fucking day Well, tell you what I didn't know this is coming today.
• 28:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know the frustration because we talk a lot
• 28:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, you know, I tell you know, I feel so I, you know what since since this season started, you know, I tell I feel like I'm you remember Charlie Brown.
• 28:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, of course.
• 28:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what the character I think was Linus the guy that has a lot of cows every where the guy got the black cloud hanging over his head That's what the season has been from line of good him is You go you
• 28:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: We like you though.
• 28:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: We like you to come back and catch us every week on the out-to-pass here and remember our good friends at sawgrass automob.
• 28:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's Cadillac Chevrolet, GMC Buick, all under one roof jaws out there this afternoon or this morning.
• 29:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they got the car, the amount of cars they have on that day.
• 29:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 29:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's 22 acres.
• 29:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: You get a lot of my goodness.
• 29:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: My goodness.
• 29:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Chris Atkins will take care of you.
• 29:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Teddy Morris, when he gets off that motorcycle every now and then.
• 29:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Tell you, Teddy, I'm not taking this loose and real well.
• 29:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm not talking about that.
• 29:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, that's going to do it for out the past year.
• 29:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: This week, we'll catch you next time.
• 29:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think we got Johnny offered our criminal.
• 29:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love Johnny, I'll offer a big Johnny.
• 29:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: You came in day one and could play.
• 29:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if day one, day one, you're a boy.
• 29:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Day one, I saw that he was the smartest football player I've ever seen in my life.
• 29:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see you next week, Johnny.
• 29:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see you guys next week.
• 29:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: That'll do it for out the past year.