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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and a happy November seventeenth till.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: On this Monday, I am your guest host, Alana Rizzo,
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Speaker 1: along two men that you know very well. That is
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Speaker 1: Aj Pierzinski. That is Eric Kratz. Aj, Eric, how are
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Speaker 1: you Aj? We'll start with you. How is your weekend?
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Speaker 3: Oh? It's good weekend. Nothing. Didn't do a whole lot, honestly,
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Speaker 3: just kind of did some stuff around the house, hung out.
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Speaker 3: How about you. Alana.
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Speaker 1: Good to be back with you boys. It's been a while.
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Speaker 1: Scott Braun is off today. Congratulations to Scotti, by the way,
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Speaker 1: getting married over the course of the weekend. So Scott
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Speaker 1: and Emma bron congrats. I went on a safari. That's
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Speaker 1: the most recent news for me. Guys, and Eric Kratz
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Speaker 1: sent me a text during my safari trip. Apparently we
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Speaker 1: stayed at the same hotel in Cape Town, South Africa.
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Speaker 1: So hm, there you have it. If you go to
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Speaker 1: South Africa, you go to Cape Town, Eric, stay at
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Speaker 1: the Victoria and Alfred as you did.
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Speaker 2: So beautiful right on the water there you see the boats.
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Speaker 2: You can look out at what is that tabletop mountain.
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Speaker 1: And table table mountain.
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Speaker 2: Table mountain and what's the island, the famous island where.
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Speaker 1: They well they have a cape of Good Hope.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, cape of Good. It's anyway beautiful. It was beautiful,
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Speaker 2: so it's cool to see. When I pulled up your ex,
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Speaker 2: it just came across a picture and I'm like what,
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Speaker 2: I looked at my pictures went back. I'm like, what.
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Speaker 2: We didn't stay in the same room, but it's on
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Speaker 2: the same same floor of the hotel.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, same same itinerary apparently. And when you say that
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Speaker 1: you pulled up my ex, you're talking about X formerly
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Speaker 1: known as Twitter, not like ex boyfriend or Yeah. All right,
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Speaker 1: so there's that. Did you have a good weekend? Aeric Kratz?
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Speaker 1: What'd you do a j great weekend?
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Speaker 2: Great weekend? Got to went to the Worthwhile Gala raise
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Speaker 2: some money for UH to raise awareness for human trafficking,
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Speaker 2: and I got to spend a beautiful night's dinner at
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Speaker 2: the gala. Mark Wiener actually dressed up and wore a tie.
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Speaker 1: He did not.
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Speaker 2: It was tremendous. He looked not tremendous.
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Speaker 1: So he cleans up nice, is what you're saying, Mark
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Speaker 1: Wiener does. All right, boys, good to be back with you.
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Speaker 1: Let's get to it. A lot to talk about today.
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Speaker 1: Let's charge the mound.
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Speaker 2: Let's charge it about.
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Speaker 1: So it looks like Josh Naylor A. J. Pierzinski and
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Speaker 1: the Seattle Mariners are going to be in a five
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Speaker 1: year union. Jeff Passon and Ken Rosenthal talking about it.
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Speaker 1: Free agent first baseman Josh Naylor in agreement with the
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Speaker 1: M's on a five year deal, of course, pending that
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Speaker 1: physical agent. Why do you think this makes sense?
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Speaker 3: If you do, I think it makes a lot of
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Speaker 3: sense for both sides. I think Naylor must have gone
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Speaker 3: to Seattle and really liked it. They've almost made the
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Speaker 3: World Series. He's a free agent and they made an
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Speaker 3: offer that he likes. And I'm hearing what five years
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Speaker 3: around one hundred which is a pretty good contract. I
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Speaker 3: mean for a guy with Josh Naylor. And listen, if
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Speaker 3: you like a place and you find a place that
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Speaker 3: you really like and they're offering you a contract that
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Speaker 3: you're comfortable with, take it. And he's doing that. And
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Speaker 3: good for Josh Naylor and good for the Mariners on
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Speaker 3: spending some money and trying to make their team, especially
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Speaker 3: their offense better early in the offseason.
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Speaker 1: And Aja you mentioned it, trying to make their team
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Speaker 1: and go forward in the off season, and Eric, we
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Speaker 1: know that Depoto makes a lot of moves, right, but
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Speaker 1: this is a guy that is trying, I guess, to
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Speaker 1: lock down that core group because now you have Josh Naylor.
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Speaker 1: Of course you have cal Rally, which they should lock
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Speaker 1: up for eternity, Julio Rodriguez and the Mariner's rotation. So
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Speaker 1: this is a foundational piece to what is already a
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Speaker 1: pretty decent foundation moving forward for the MS. What's your
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Speaker 1: take on it.
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Speaker 2: I feel like anytime you can add a significant bat
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Speaker 2: who they got Josh Naylor and they were like, you
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Speaker 2: know what, we're getting a guy he stole a few
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Speaker 2: bases whatever, he added that stolen based component to what
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Speaker 2: he already has, and clearly, I mean, we get it.
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Speaker 2: Julio Rodriguez got MVP votes, cal Rally could have won
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Speaker 2: the MVP, and you go, okay, well, we don't need
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Speaker 2: somebody to carry the lineup. But when you're constantly yearning,
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Speaker 2: year out, never making that move on a Pete Alonzo,
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Speaker 2: obviously they're never in a Jan Soto ownership. Just would
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Speaker 2: refuse to allow Jerry to Poto who wants to make
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Speaker 2: moves to make moves to be able to see that
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Speaker 2: as the Mariners to shift in this direction. It's awesome.
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Speaker 2: Now you have Julio who's locked up, you have JP
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Speaker 2: Crawford locked up, you have Cal locked up, and this
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Speaker 2: is five years. You know, is this starting rotation going
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Speaker 2: to last for five years? Maybe all this is like
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Speaker 2: a year or two late when they were really all
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Speaker 2: in their prime. But they've shown they can produce pitching
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Speaker 2: in their minor leagues. So this is this is a
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Speaker 2: great This is obviously a great move. I think he
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Speaker 2: was the second best first baseman on the market.
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Speaker 1: And you talk about first baseman guys, and AJ will
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Speaker 1: bump it over to you again. You look at the
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Speaker 1: first basemen that are signed to essentially long term deals,
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Speaker 1: at least more than a two year deal. We'll put
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Speaker 1: it that way. So Josh Naylor now joins Vladimir Gerro junior,
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Speaker 1: who's obviously going to be in Toronto forever. James Sheiano
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Speaker 1: tweeting this earlier. Every first baseman who's sign to more
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Speaker 1: than a two year deal, Christian Walker of course, Matt
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Speaker 1: Olsen of the Braves, who took over for Freddie Freeman
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Speaker 1: who went to the Dodgers obviously, and he's signed long
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Speaker 1: term in Los Angeles. So it's a really small list.
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Speaker 1: I'm I guess I'm a little surprised that Naylor is
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Speaker 1: on this list, but I do think it makes sense
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Speaker 1: for the Mariners.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes total sense for both. Again the Mariners. Yes, listen,
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Speaker 3: they lock up a power guy that can play every day.
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Speaker 3: He's left handed, he performed in the postseason. What else
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Speaker 3: do you want? I mean, could you have maybe gotten more? Maybe?
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Speaker 3: But again, this is a place. He liked, this place,
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Speaker 3: he seemed comfortable. Good for him, and you don't what
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Speaker 3: a five year deal. It's pretty nice to go home
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Speaker 3: and say, hey, guys, I got a five year deal.
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Speaker 3: That's pretty awesome.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. It's nice to have that job security.
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Speaker 1: And obviously James Sheiano is the host of the Mets
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Speaker 1: Up podcast right here on Foul Territory, and he's probably
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Speaker 1: thinking about this list because what's going to happen with
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Speaker 1: Pete Alonso? Right Like, where is their first baseman going
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Speaker 1: to go? So, Eric, I asked you this, what else
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Speaker 1: do the Mariners need to do in the off season
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Speaker 1: because they have a hell the court. You talked about
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Speaker 1: the starting rotation. Obviously, it seems like the offense is
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Speaker 1: finally catching up to that starting rotation. What else do
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Speaker 1: they need to do?
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Speaker 2: I think they need I think they definitely need another bat.
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Speaker 2: What type of bat? When they got a Hineosuarez obviously
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Speaker 2: had a huge two home run game in the playoffs
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Speaker 2: that helped them get to where they were or continue
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Speaker 2: to move on to where they were, But you do
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Speaker 2: they need another power bat like that? I think they
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Speaker 2: would have to evaluate it and say what type of
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Speaker 2: hitter comes into this park and can hit dingers? And
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Speaker 2: if they say there's nothing available, is there somebody in
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Speaker 2: a trade that can help them keep the line moving
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Speaker 2: and not just be automatic outs. You know, sometimes sometimes
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Speaker 2: when you have a park that is tough to hit
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Speaker 2: in or tough to hit home runs in, then you say, okay,
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Speaker 2: you know, well we'll just try We'll just try to
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Speaker 2: get the biggest bat we can, you know, some type
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Speaker 2: of one year Reese Hosket type of deal. I know
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Speaker 2: it's not going to work out because theyre have a
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Speaker 2: first basement, but is there something that adds to that lineup?
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Speaker 2: To me, you got to put the ball in play
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Speaker 2: if you can't hit dangers out of your park on
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Speaker 2: a consistent basis, and that costs money. Find somebody that
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Speaker 2: you can put the ball in play. Find somebody that's
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Speaker 2: going to keep the line moving. And I think it's
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Speaker 2: really adding to that lineup is what they need. Because
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Speaker 2: that bullpen is stacked, the starting rotation stays healthy, stacked.
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Speaker 2: You know, that's that's where their focus should be.
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Speaker 1: Seattle went pretty deep into the postseason this year, obviously
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Speaker 1: getting vested by the Toronto Blue Jays who ended up
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Speaker 1: in the World Series. But AJ, let me ask you this,
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Speaker 1: Eric wants another bat, not certain which type. What else
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Speaker 1: do the Mariners, in your opinion, need to do to
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Speaker 1: get over the hump to at least get back into
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Speaker 1: the postseason next year? Move further? Is it a bullpen
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Speaker 1: piece or is it another piece of that starting rotation.
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Speaker 3: It's about I mean, it's still about. It's it's always
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Speaker 3: going to be a bad in Seattle. There their starting
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Speaker 3: rotation is good if Logan, Gilbert, George, Kirby, Castillo and
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Speaker 3: Bright and Wu stay healthy along with Bryce Miller. I
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Speaker 3: mean there's a five to five of the best, and
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Speaker 3: then their bullpen with Mutnios at the back end and
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Speaker 3: some of the guys. They found one thing about Seattle,
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Speaker 3: they always seem to figure out how to manipulate guys
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Speaker 3: in the bullpen. So I don't know that they need
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Speaker 3: any more pitching with a nice veteran starter look good. Sure,
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Speaker 3: but they have five guys who've been around now for
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Speaker 3: a couple of years. So unless you're going to go
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Speaker 3: out and trade one of those guys for another bat
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Speaker 3: that you can use multiple position player pieces that can
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Speaker 3: be ready in the future. I think you just got
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Speaker 3: to go and load up on bats. I mean Raleigh Julio. Now,
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Speaker 3: Naylor Polanco is a free agent, they got to go
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Speaker 3: do some with him. Crawford's a nice piece, Rose Aina
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Speaker 3: is still there, so I think they're in a good spot.
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Speaker 3: I think one more piece, whether it's a third baseman
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Speaker 3: maybe I mean Alex Bregman, I don't think would go there,
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Speaker 3: but something like that would be a really nice piece.
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Speaker 3: And the guy also could play some defense, because their
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Speaker 3: defense was a little bit I wouldn't want to say shaky,
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Speaker 3: but it wasn't the best defense in.
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Speaker 1: The league, all right, A little suspect at times. By
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Speaker 1: the way, congratulations to George Kirby, he got engaged recently.
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Speaker 1: These are the stupid facts I bring to foul Territory
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Speaker 1: on a bi monthly basis. Are the Mariners aerk Kratz
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Speaker 1: the team to beat in the AL West going into
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Speaker 1: spring training? Are they the best in the division.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess, I guess it's okay to pick
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Speaker 2: against the Astros now. I mean last year, I just
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Speaker 2: refused to pick against the Astros. And I guess that's
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Speaker 2: why they lost. They took a little bit of a
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Speaker 2: step back because they couldn't fight through the colossal injury
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Speaker 2: of your Don. I mean, I think it's a yes,
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Speaker 2: I think they I think they made that the last
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Speaker 2: push that they made in September when Mariners of old
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Speaker 2: Mariners history, every team collapses. They look like they wanted
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Speaker 2: to collapse in August when they had some tough road
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Speaker 2: trips and they were losing six of the seven games.
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Speaker 2: But they made that next transition. And I think some
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Speaker 2: of that is maturation of Juliocal JP Crawford, But I
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Speaker 2: also think some of it can be the fact that
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Speaker 2: they're extended for a long time. They're not sitting there
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Speaker 2: trying to trying to get hits, trying to do things
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Speaker 2: that They're just trying to win games. They're just trying
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Speaker 2: to win games in any way possible. And so I
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Speaker 2: think this team has because of this past year. Right now,
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Speaker 2: I see them, they catapulted themselves to the favorites in
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Speaker 2: the West, which they always work. Because they're starting rotation
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Speaker 2: and now that they're starting to hit the ball a
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Speaker 2: little bit better, it's legit is.
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Speaker 1: That the case. AJ. You think the Mariners are at
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Speaker 1: top of the division heading in.
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Speaker 3: Well, let's see what the Rangers and the Astros do
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Speaker 3: this offseason. I think those are two big clubs. Astros
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Speaker 3: just missed the postseason. The Rangers have pieces that are
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Speaker 3: very nice. We'll see they're supposed to be cutting payroll.
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Speaker 3: But let's see what the Astros do. I think what
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Speaker 3: happens with Fromber, what other moves they make a full
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Speaker 3: year of Carlos Korea. Let's see what the Astros go
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Speaker 3: out and do. But right now where we sit on today,
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Speaker 3: on what is the November seventeenth, Yes, the Mariners are
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Speaker 3: the favorites.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's insane to think what the Astros did even
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Speaker 1: with the from Ravalde or excuse me, the your Don
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Speaker 1: Alvarez injury, guys, and obviously not having Kyle Tucker or
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Speaker 1: Alex Bregman, and they very easily could have won the
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Speaker 1: division as well. Guys, Big day on the baseball calendar tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: Snake's Territories, Jack Summer's writing that November eighteenth, the qualifying
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Speaker 1: offer and Rule five. This is the deadline guys for
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Speaker 1: a player to either accept or reject a qualifying offer.
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Speaker 1: The amount for this season twenty two point two five
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Speaker 1: million dollars. Zach Gallon's decision, guys, must be made on
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Speaker 1: that date. What do you think he does?
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Speaker 3: Aj cops out. I don't think anybody's going to take
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Speaker 3: the qualifying offer. We haven't seen a lot of guys
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Speaker 3: take it. I don't think Zach Gallon's taken, and I
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Speaker 3: think he has Skyle Boris, and Skyle bors will tell
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Speaker 3: them he can get him more on the open market.
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Speaker 3: So I don't think we'll see anybody who was a
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Speaker 3: Nick Martinez. I think was the only one who took
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Speaker 3: it last year, and I he will. Don't think you don't.
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Speaker 2: Think Big will will?
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Speaker 3: Uh?
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Speaker 2: I feel like he's the one. I don't think that.
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Speaker 3: I don't think gall maybe, but maybe I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Maybe Wu's just ready to try something different. I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I mean, although twenty one million sounds pretty good, but
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Speaker 3: I don't know. We'll see he Yeah, I guess he
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Speaker 3: would be the one. I just think I just don't.
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Speaker 3: I just think they must have had a conversation already
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Speaker 3: about hey, we're going to offer you this. You know,
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Speaker 3: if you take it, we don't really want you to
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Speaker 3: take it. But I don't know, we'll.
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Speaker 2: See I think I think Gallan, I think anytime I
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Speaker 2: see stuff in the media now that I'm in the media,
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Speaker 2: and I'm like, like, just because he had just because
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Speaker 2: he had it down here this year, like our team's
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Speaker 2: going to look at it and be like, oh, yeah,
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Speaker 2: he's probably on the decline. No, like, look at the
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Speaker 2: whole body at work. It's one hundred million dollar picture.
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Speaker 2: Did it bring down his value some maybe? But one
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Speaker 2: hundred million is not even close to twenty two point
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Speaker 2: zero five.
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Speaker 1: Joe Sherman coming in with this, you guys. Yankees are
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Speaker 1: an agreement on a one year deal with Ryan Yarborough,
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Speaker 1: as by Robert Murray first reported. Yarborough guys a four
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Speaker 1: to three six ERA last season in nineteen games, eight
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Speaker 1: of those which were starts with the Yankees. Good deal,
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Speaker 1: bad deal.
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Speaker 2: Eric, Now knowing the money, I have a hard time
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Speaker 2: believing this is a bad deal. I hate it for
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Speaker 2: yards that he doesn't get a multi year deal here.
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Speaker 2: But he's a perfect switch, you know, a knife you know,
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Speaker 2: the whole pocket knife. I'm trying to say switch knife,
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Speaker 2: and I can't come up with the word.
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Speaker 1: But Swiss army knife.
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Speaker 2: Swiss army knight, thank you, thank you. Because he can start,
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Speaker 2: because he can open, because he can call out. Like
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Speaker 2: there's there's times when you have a deep rotation of
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Speaker 2: five or six guys and you need somebody that can open.
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Speaker 2: But then you need some one of those guys to
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Speaker 2: be able to shift to the bullpen. At Yarborough. He's
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Speaker 2: been that and you know you'd like to see him
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Speaker 2: stay a little bit. He did this year, but he's
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Speaker 2: gonna give you what you need. So I think it's great,
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Speaker 2: especially he can lock up another big league deal.
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Speaker 3: It's good move. Yeah, pitch there. He proved he could
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Speaker 3: pitch there. It's a good deal for both. They can
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Speaker 3: use him as a starter if they need to, if
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Speaker 3: someone goes down. They can use him as a long guy.
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Speaker 3: They can use him as an opener, they can use
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Speaker 3: them lead innings. He can give you length. I think
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Speaker 3: this is a great deal for both. This is one
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Speaker 3: of those deals that listen, they come together early because
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Speaker 3: it works for both sides, and it's like the Josh
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Speaker 3: Naylor it works good.
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Speaker 1: left elbow yesterday, so that would have been the fourteen
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Speaker 1: to repair his extension muscle. Hernandez will not be playing
17:04
Speaker 1: in the World Baseball Classic for Puerto Rico, so obviously
17:07
Speaker 1: something that was being played through AJ over the course
17:11
Speaker 1: of the season because he hurt his elbow initially apparently
17:15
Speaker 1: in May. So that says something about Kiki obviously playing
17:19
Speaker 1: through it and we know how big he is in
17:21
Speaker 1: the in the postseason.
17:23
Speaker 3: Well. Also, listen, people are banged up all the time.
17:26
Speaker 3: I think we don't always get the full story. But
17:28
Speaker 3: what more to me is like I don't know about y'all,
17:31
Speaker 3: but have y'all ever been ambushed at the Lax airport,
17:33
Speaker 3: Because I have. It's weird.
17:35
Speaker 1: I'm not that popular.
17:37
Speaker 3: It is so weird. It has happened to me where
17:39
Speaker 3: they're there and they're not looking for me. The it's
17:42
Speaker 3: just some random guy happens to see you and he
17:44
Speaker 3: will come up to you at the camera and stick
17:46
Speaker 3: it right in your face and your baggage claim and
17:48
Speaker 3: they are like, ask you some weird questions and usually
17:52
Speaker 3: there's you know, usually a lot of times at LAX
17:54
Speaker 3: you're either find in real early in the morning or
17:57
Speaker 3: late at night, and they try to get you when
17:59
Speaker 3: you're not ready for it. So it is. It can
18:01
Speaker 3: be awkward at times. Happened to me a couple of times.
18:03
Speaker 3: It is awkward.
18:04
Speaker 1: I have been ambushed at other places in LA since
18:07
Speaker 1: I lived there for seven years covering the Los Angeles Daughters,
18:10
Speaker 1: but never at an airport. But I always look homeless
18:12
Speaker 1: too when I'm traveling, so maybe they didn't realize it
18:15
Speaker 1: was me because I look very different on TV than
18:17
Speaker 1: I do in real life.
18:19
Speaker 2: Homeless.
18:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I look pretty rough when I'm not
18:23
Speaker 1: on the.
18:24
Speaker 2: Homeless rideout, like like you smell and everything.
18:27
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm very no.
18:29
Speaker 1: I don't smell, but I dress like, you know, just
18:31
Speaker 1: sweats and you just you know, very very very casual.
18:34
Speaker 2: Like I just don't you have you have an outfit
18:38
Speaker 2: that you put on and you try you you put
18:41
Speaker 2: on basic casual like you're just you're you're put together casual.
18:45
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I mean I do have a
18:47
Speaker 1: travel outfit now, pockets. You know, it's like sweats, super comfy.
18:53
Speaker 1: But I've not been ambushed at the airport. But this
18:55
Speaker 1: is a big deal for the World Baseball Classic and Eric,
18:58
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you this too, because Keik loves, loves,
19:00
Speaker 1: loves playing in the WBC. He loves Puerto Rico obviously
19:05
Speaker 1: where he was born. This is a big blow for
19:07
Speaker 1: him and for Team Puerto.
19:09
Speaker 2: Rico for sure, because he comes up in big situations
19:13
Speaker 2: like I think KEYK has now put himself on the
19:16
Speaker 2: map where he could be a guy where you're like, ah, whatever,
19:19
Speaker 2: don't play in the don't play in the regular season.
19:21
Speaker 2: So the WBC's as close as you're going to get
19:23
Speaker 2: to the playoffs without it being the playoffs. So yeah,
19:26
Speaker 2: it's a huge blow because he's also offers versatility. If
19:30
Speaker 2: you look at highlights of the Dodgers past two World
19:33
Speaker 2: Series and highlights of when he was in Boston, Like
19:37
Speaker 2: he's playing all different positions, Like how many times are
19:40
Speaker 2: you gonna be like, Oh yeah, Kyk, I remember that
19:42
Speaker 2: play he made into one series at third base? Oh yeah,
19:45
Speaker 2: remember that play he made in the most recent World
19:47
Speaker 2: Series at left field. Like that's he adds tons of
19:53
Speaker 2: value and he's clutched in these big moments.
19:56
Speaker 1: He's massive. I don't care if Kiky hernandez Aj goes
20:00
Speaker 1: for the regular season. You want him to be on
20:03
Speaker 1: a postseason roster. You want him to be in the WBC.
20:08
Speaker 1: But Andrew Friedman on Dodgers Territory early in the season
20:11
Speaker 1: said that he couldn't believe the maturation process that Kik
20:14
Speaker 1: went through. I mean, this was a guy that was
20:16
Speaker 1: dancing in banana costumes with Justin Turner and Jack Peterson
20:20
Speaker 1: on the plane. And then Andrew Friedman said he has
20:23
Speaker 1: become such a massive leader in the Dodgers' clubhouse and dugout,
20:27
Speaker 1: it's been quite the transformation for Kyk. Could he be
20:30
Speaker 1: part of the WBC for Puerto Rico in some capacity
20:33
Speaker 1: that you think would be beneficial.
20:35
Speaker 3: They might just have him on the team and just
20:37
Speaker 3: be like hanging around with the guys. He might just
20:39
Speaker 3: get an opportunity to do that, so you don't have
20:41
Speaker 3: to be playing in order to have a present. So
20:43
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, they'll probably bring him in have him
20:46
Speaker 3: hanging around if he's not healthy enough to be playing.
20:48
Speaker 3: I don't know if the Dodgers is he a free agent?
20:51
Speaker 1: Is they only signed a one year deal?
20:54
Speaker 3: So if he's not signed by a team, why would
20:56
Speaker 3: Puerto Rico not bring him in there? They can bring
20:58
Speaker 3: him in as a coach or first base coach or
21:00
Speaker 3: something pitching coach, I don't know, but just have him around,
21:03
Speaker 3: have him hang out with the boys. And if he
21:04
Speaker 3: is on a team, which we all would assume would
21:06
Speaker 3: be the Dodgers, again, would the Dodgers let him do
21:09
Speaker 3: that if he's going through rehab for an injury. I
21:11
Speaker 3: don't know. We'll see, but he definitely should be a
21:13
Speaker 3: part somehow of Puerto Rico's team.
21:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe somehow as a special ambassador if you will.
21:19
Speaker 1: This is a guy.
21:20
Speaker 4: Uh.
21:20
Speaker 1: Last season, gentlemen thirty four years old only hit two three,
21:23
Speaker 1: two fifty five three sixty six with ten home runs,
21:26
Speaker 1: but then you go to the postseason and he's just
21:29
Speaker 1: another dude. Do you bring him back if you're la
21:33
Speaker 1: Eric just for that reason.
21:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he even said it. He even said
21:38
Speaker 2: it last year in spring training. He didn't like how
21:41
Speaker 2: free agency went, but he was like, there's really only
21:44
Speaker 2: two teams I would have gone to, and obviously everybody
21:46
Speaker 2: knows I want to go back to the Dodgers, so
21:48
Speaker 2: it's just gonna be a playoff team. I don't see.
21:50
Speaker 2: I don't see how he doesn't. I don't see how
21:52
Speaker 2: he doesn't. It's crazy because there's only a few spots
21:54
Speaker 2: where you can have that utility role on a team.
21:58
Speaker 2: But now that Chris Taylor's moved on, like I think,
22:01
Speaker 2: he just easily slides into that role and he will
22:04
Speaker 2: not hit two of three next year. So if there's
22:06
Speaker 2: any Dodger haters out there, like we need somebody else
22:09
Speaker 2: other than KEYK, just no, you did get other people,
22:12
Speaker 2: Like they wanted Michael Confordo to be playing left field
22:15
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. Well it didn't work out. So you
22:19
Speaker 2: always have you always have KEYK. You need to offer
22:22
Speaker 2: him to me. I think he needs to get a
22:23
Speaker 2: multi year deal, but I guess that's just the player
22:25
Speaker 2: at me too.
22:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree with you. I'd love to see
22:27
Speaker 1: him locked up to more than one deal. Let's move
22:29
Speaker 1: our focus to Team USA. A couple of editions were
22:31
Speaker 1: announced over the course of the weekend. Pete Carroll and
22:34
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll. Yeah, by the way, he's retiring from football
22:37
Speaker 1: and going to the WBC. Corbin Carroll and Pete crow
22:41
Speaker 1: Armstrong are going to be on the WBC roster. Of course,
22:44
Speaker 1: cal Rawly, who I still think should have been the MVP,
22:47
Speaker 1: is going to catch great additions. Guys. I mean the WBC,
22:50
Speaker 1: I think is increasing in popularity. We know as a
22:52
Speaker 1: player that you love playing for your country. I think
22:55
Speaker 1: it was more of the Latin countries perhaps more so,
22:58
Speaker 1: but the USA seems to really be taking off in
23:00
Speaker 1: terms of interest from big key names. AJ.
23:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, if you went to the last one a lot,
23:05
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I went to the last one in Miami.
23:08
Speaker 3: It was one of the coolest things I'd ever been to,
23:10
Speaker 3: just because the fan experience and trust me, I went
23:12
Speaker 3: to the Venezuela USA game. Venezuela, I'll number the US
23:16
Speaker 3: fans like three or four to one. In Miami down
23:18
Speaker 3: a Marlins Park, So I think that the USA and
23:21
Speaker 3: the players that went to would have gotten a better
23:23
Speaker 3: and better experience each time. And the bigger and bigger
23:26
Speaker 3: names are coming in for it. I wish there was
23:28
Speaker 3: a way to where we could have all the teams
23:29
Speaker 3: at full strength, because Japan, to me, has the advantage
23:32
Speaker 3: because their guys trained for months and months and months
23:34
Speaker 3: get ready for this. USA kind of throws their team
23:36
Speaker 3: together at the end as to a lot of the
23:38
Speaker 3: other countries. But I wish there was a way we
23:40
Speaker 3: could have everybody at full strength and see these guys,
23:43
Speaker 3: these starting pitchers and handle this like a real tournament,
23:45
Speaker 3: which it should be in the Olympics, and I don't
23:47
Speaker 3: think they're ever going to allow that. But I love
23:50
Speaker 3: that the big names are coming and saying yes, I
23:53
Speaker 3: want to play for USA, Dominican and Japan, Puerto Rico,
23:56
Speaker 3: whatever it is, because that shows you how much this
23:58
Speaker 3: means and how much fun these guys are having.
24:01
Speaker 2: I'd like to make sure that Major League Baseball, because
24:03
Speaker 2: it was announced at the MLB Awards this past weekend.
24:07
Speaker 2: I'd like just want to make sure Major League Baseball's
24:10
Speaker 2: putting the same effort, and I don't know about resources.
24:15
Speaker 2: I don't know how that works. But like, why is
24:17
Speaker 2: Team USA major League Baseball's team, you know what I mean?
24:22
Speaker 2: Like they're all big leaguers. Like why wouldn't Major League
24:26
Speaker 2: Baseball make sure they're announcing when shohe says he's gonna
24:30
Speaker 2: play for Team Japan or Team Samurai I think is
24:33
Speaker 2: what they're called. And then why would they not announce
24:36
Speaker 2: when ktel Marte is playing for the dr Like I
24:41
Speaker 2: just because I've heard it from different groups that Major
24:46
Speaker 2: League Baseball loves to like get behind Team USA, but
24:49
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball is also a third not American players,
24:54
Speaker 2: Like why are we Why are they not making such
24:57
Speaker 2: a big deal out of it, Like they clearly flew Corbyn,
25:00
Speaker 2: Carroll and PCA out to the Awards so that they
25:04
Speaker 2: could announce it on stage with Mark de Rosa and
25:07
Speaker 2: all all this popping circumstance, Like let's make sure the
25:11
Speaker 2: other teams get there just due too.
25:15
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I don't have an answer for that.
25:17
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because Major League Baseball, with
25:21
Speaker 1: the exception of Toronto, is all in the United States,
25:24
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I understand your point. I mean,
25:26
Speaker 1: it's a global game, it's an international game. And to
25:28
Speaker 1: your point, you know, a third of the players are
25:31
Speaker 1: not of American United States descent. So I don't have
25:36
Speaker 1: an answer for that. But yeah, I mean it's every
25:38
Speaker 1: single player that is in the major leagues that makes
25:42
Speaker 1: a team for the WBC should be announced as a member,
25:47
Speaker 1: you know, as the members of the USA team are.
25:50
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how to answer that.
25:52
Speaker 2: Like here's here's the example. The Miz came on the
25:55
Speaker 2: show and AJ was like, I'm recruiting you for Team Poland.
26:00
Speaker 2: If he announced it, if there was a Team Poland
26:03
Speaker 2: and the Miz was like, yeah, I'm playing for Team Poland.
26:07
Speaker 2: Would Major League Baseball get behind it as much as
26:10
Speaker 2: they get behind Corbyn Carroll saying he's going to be
26:13
Speaker 2: on the team, PCA saying he's going to be on
26:14
Speaker 2: the team because there's there's some cash behind there, and
26:17
Speaker 2: I'm sure if Team Poland somehow figured out a way
26:20
Speaker 2: to get in, they would need some cash from Major
26:23
Speaker 2: League Baseball.
26:27
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's a great point that I've never
26:30
Speaker 1: thought about that like that, I'm not certain why it's
26:35
Speaker 1: not handled that way. I don't know if it's because
26:38
Speaker 1: it's taken I think more time for USA to treat
26:42
Speaker 1: it as a big deal like the other. I mean,
26:44
Speaker 1: you ask any Latin player, it's more important for them
26:48
Speaker 1: to play for the WBC and win for Venezuela or
26:52
Speaker 1: you know, the Dominican or Puerto Rico or whatever than
26:56
Speaker 1: it is to win the World Series. I mean, they
26:58
Speaker 1: care seemingly outwardly. I don't want to put any any
27:02
Speaker 1: words into American you know, North American players mouths or
27:05
Speaker 1: USA players mouths, but they seem to care more about
27:09
Speaker 1: winning for their country than they do about winning for
27:12
Speaker 1: their respective Major League Baseball team. Maybe I'm wrong, but
27:15
Speaker 1: that's the outside perspective. I have the optics anyway.
27:21
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I think I think they. I think
27:23
Speaker 2: they have that national pride, and I think they're used
27:26
Speaker 2: to when you talk about the when you talk about
27:29
Speaker 2: the teams that or yeah, the countries that have winter leagues,
27:34
Speaker 2: yeah they I mean they essentially go into winter league mode.
27:37
Speaker 2: This is what we'd call it when we were playing,
27:39
Speaker 2: Like winter league mode is you're you're getting up for
27:42
Speaker 2: every single game like your dudes are just I forget
27:46
Speaker 2: AJ you were at the game. I forget what the
27:48
Speaker 2: what was the dude's name? Who was shirt was coming
27:50
Speaker 2: all the way unbuttoned like that was like it personified
27:54
Speaker 2: the you know, the energy that they would bring to
27:58
Speaker 2: those games. And that's you know, some of them are
28:00
Speaker 2: coming straight off of winter Ball. They're playing in the
28:03
Speaker 2: in the Winter Ball Championships, and then they're coming to
28:07
Speaker 2: spring training for a few weeks and then they go
28:09
Speaker 2: straight to the WBC. So yeah, there's a there's there's
28:13
Speaker 2: a pride there that I think. I think American players
28:16
Speaker 2: have the same pride. I just think it's it's shown
28:19
Speaker 2: differently because they're used to playing. When they get to
28:21
Speaker 2: play with each other, it's it's a treat.
28:27
Speaker 1: I just love the WBC and I love that it's
28:29
Speaker 1: growing in popularity. I think it's awesome.
28:31
Speaker 3: You guys, You guys want to know why MLB pushes
28:33
Speaker 3: the American players. Yes, I mean, how do we know
28:35
Speaker 3: that japan players aren't big? Donelike this? In Japan, we
28:38
Speaker 3: don't know. We just don't see it. How do we
28:40
Speaker 3: know in Dominican when whoever announces that they're playing for
28:43
Speaker 3: the Dominican we don't see it, right, No, I think,
28:45
Speaker 3: I think.
28:46
Speaker 1: But I think. Eric's point though, is that MLB should
28:49
Speaker 1: be promoting any any Major League Baseball player that is
28:52
Speaker 1: going to play for their respective team, whether it's Venezuela
28:55
Speaker 1: or the Dominican or Team Mexico. MLB should promote them
28:58
Speaker 1: just as much as they promote the US.
29:01
Speaker 3: What drives ratings in America and what drives ratings and
29:04
Speaker 3: help some MLB game money the American television audience. Right
29:09
Speaker 3: what does USA had a hard time getting people to
29:11
Speaker 3: do their big name stars play for him? So when
29:13
Speaker 3: they get big name people, yes, MLB is gonna push
29:16
Speaker 3: it because that's where the money comes from. Listen, it's
29:18
Speaker 3: great that everyone plays for Dominican. It's great that everyone
29:21
Speaker 3: plays for Puerto Rico. It's great that these guys play
29:24
Speaker 3: for Japan, and these guys play for Panama and Netherlands
29:27
Speaker 3: and this and that. Now, it was a big deal
29:29
Speaker 3: MLB announcement. Alex Rodriguez and Manny Machada wanted to play
29:33
Speaker 3: for Dominican right now because they could have played for America.
29:36
Speaker 3: So to me, it's the reason. It's all about money.
29:38
Speaker 3: Money drives this thing. Money is the reason they have
29:40
Speaker 3: this thing, and the American consumers are it's the finals
29:45
Speaker 3: are in America. The semi finals are in America, Major
29:48
Speaker 3: Leagues Baseball stadiums, and MLB owns it. So MLB knows
29:52
Speaker 3: who is going to buy the tickets, more than likely
29:54
Speaker 3: people that live in the USA. So they are pushing
29:57
Speaker 3: this and they want the biggest stars for America because
30:00
Speaker 3: then they can get the American audience to tune in.
30:02
Speaker 3: Because I don't know the ratings, but I'm pretty sure
30:04
Speaker 3: rating for Dominican versus Colombia is not as high for
30:07
Speaker 3: rating for USA versus Mexico, or USA verse Japan, or
30:12
Speaker 3: USA vers Dominican. I'm pretty sure the ratings are probably higher,
30:15
Speaker 3: especially in the one base where MLB cares about, and
30:18
Speaker 3: that's the United States of America.
30:20
Speaker 1: Guys. This from Bob Nightingale on X the official twenty
30:23
Speaker 1: twenty six Hall of Fame ballot with twelve new candidates.
30:26
Speaker 1: It is out. I'm not gonna go through all of
30:27
Speaker 1: the names, but you can see them there. AJ will
30:30
Speaker 1: start with you, is there anybody on this list of
30:32
Speaker 1: a newcomer in terms of Hall of Fame that sticks
30:35
Speaker 1: out to you?
30:36
Speaker 3: Nope? Nope? Are you There's not one that's gonna make it.
30:42
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I don't know.
30:43
Speaker 1: Oh, there's not one that's gonna make it, Okay.
30:45
Speaker 3: I mean I guess Cole Hammill's, but I don't think
30:48
Speaker 3: he's gonna make it. I don't know. Ryan Bron's definitely
30:51
Speaker 3: not making it. I don't know. I looked at the
30:54
Speaker 3: list and I was like, Eh, I don't really see
30:57
Speaker 3: a whole lot. Matt Camp's not gonna make it of
31:00
Speaker 3: she's I just don't see when that's gonna make it.
31:04
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. They're just they're great players, but there weren't
31:07
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame worthy. They're just they're just weren't. And
31:09
Speaker 3: that's It's gonna be interesting to see who stays on
31:11
Speaker 3: the list for another year. But uh, you know, it
31:14
Speaker 3: looks like who's gonna get a Beltron's probably gonna get in,
31:17
Speaker 3: and Andrew Jones are probably gonna get in this year,
31:19
Speaker 3: and then that opens it up for some other people.
31:21
Speaker 3: But it'd be interesting to see who gets the votes
31:23
Speaker 3: this year, because I honestly don't think that, uh, anybody
31:28
Speaker 3: on this newcomer list is gonna make it.
31:30
Speaker 1: I feel like I see Jimmy Rawlins and Chase Utley
31:32
Speaker 1: on these all of the time. If you had to
31:34
Speaker 1: pick one of the two, Eric, who do you think
31:36
Speaker 1: is more Hall of Fame worthy? If either, I mean I.
31:40
Speaker 2: Played with both of them. I play like this whole
31:42
Speaker 2: list isn't first timers. So I want to know who
31:45
Speaker 2: from this list is first timers? Is it Braun, Gordo,
31:51
Speaker 2: Cole Hammils since you chew, probably Edwin Murphy, Geo Gonzalez Murphy.
31:59
Speaker 3: Anyway, take it, Hollie Kendrick. Those are all.
32:06
Speaker 2: Okay, so maybe like the top the top guys there,
32:09
Speaker 2: But to me, I don't, I don't. I feel like
32:14
Speaker 2: I feel like Jimmy's going to I don't know, I
32:18
Speaker 2: feel like Jimmy's going to get in before Chase.
32:23
Speaker 1: But it's worthy of getting in. I mean, I think
32:25
Speaker 1: the longer it goes, and the more opportunities there are
32:28
Speaker 1: for guys to get in, more people that probably shouldn't
32:31
Speaker 1: be in the Hall if there's if the if there
32:34
Speaker 1: were stricter restrictions or fewer guys that got in, I
32:37
Speaker 1: don't know that any of these would. I mean, eventually
32:39
Speaker 1: they might because of all of the different avenues of
32:42
Speaker 1: getting into Cooper's town, But should they get in?
32:46
Speaker 2: I think Jeff Kent's a better second basement and put
32:49
Speaker 2: up better numbers than Chase Uttley. So I think it's
32:52
Speaker 2: tough to say Chase Utley will get in before you
32:55
Speaker 2: hear that the Jeff Kent because Chase Uttley. I mean,
32:57
Speaker 2: everyone says Jeff Kent was a jerk or what and
33:00
Speaker 2: that's why he's not it.
33:01
Speaker 3: Like just.
33:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's not the Hall of Good person, it's
33:05
Speaker 1: the Hall of the name. All right, we welcome you
33:08
Speaker 1: back here. So this is a question from Jen Abbas
33:11
Speaker 1: fifty three eighty. Are any of them in the Hall
33:14
Speaker 1: of pretty Good? And I believe that she's talking about
33:17
Speaker 1: because AJ Prazinski, you received ninety one percent of the
33:20
Speaker 1: vote to become the twentieth member of the Hall of
33:23
Speaker 1: Pretty Good and the fifth member AJ of the Illustrious
33:27
Speaker 1: Inner Circle. You're in the Circle of Trust, my friend. Congratulations.
33:31
Speaker 1: I think you're better than the Hall of Pretty Good.
33:33
Speaker 1: But that's neither here nor there. So there you have it.
33:35
Speaker 1: So are any of these guys on the twenty twenty
33:38
Speaker 1: six Hall of Fame ballot, the new names that we
33:41
Speaker 1: talked about, are any of them good enough to be
33:44
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Pretty Good?
33:46
Speaker 3: I think Hunter Pence is already in the Hall of
33:49
Speaker 3: Pretty Good. I'm pretty sure he already got in. Yeah,
33:52
Speaker 3: I think I think he already got in. So congratulations
33:54
Speaker 3: to Hunter. Listen, All of pretty Good is a really
33:57
Speaker 3: funny thing that a fan came up with where he like,
34:00
Speaker 3: he asks fans to vote on this, and it's engaging.
34:03
Speaker 3: It's funny to see who gets in and who doesn't
34:05
Speaker 3: because some people I think should have got in didn't
34:07
Speaker 3: get in. But it's like, I think it's every Wednesday
34:10
Speaker 3: they do the voting. So yeah, it was pretty cool
34:12
Speaker 3: to see that. And now there's a list of about
34:17
Speaker 3: what fifteen new guys that just went on the Hall
34:19
Speaker 3: of Fame ballot that have a chance to both but
34:22
Speaker 3: they're not going to get into the Hall of Fame,
34:24
Speaker 3: but they got a chance to get into the Hall
34:25
Speaker 3: pretty Good, which for some of us is an honor.
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Speaker 1: All right, guys, So, Blake but Terra is the new
34:30
Speaker 1: manager of the Washington Nationals. He is supposed to have
34:33
Speaker 1: a press conference today or he did have it today
34:35
Speaker 1: actually at one point thirty so about an hour and
34:38
Speaker 1: change ago when we were on the air. It's been
34:40
Speaker 1: eighteen days though since the news first broke that the
34:42
Speaker 1: Nats were hiring him, but I think it's because his
34:45
Speaker 1: wife just had a baby, so they had to delay
34:47
Speaker 1: the presser. Congratulations to them. So here's the cool story
34:51
Speaker 1: apparently that came out of the presser from Paul to
34:54
Speaker 1: Boni that must be Italian. When he was just starting
34:57
Speaker 1: search Hall of Fame catcher Mike Piazza actually call all
35:00
Speaker 1: to Bonnie to tell him about how but Terra would
35:03
Speaker 1: be a great candidate for the job. Piazza and Terra,
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Speaker 1: the Italians, I tell you, man, we stick together. They
35:09
Speaker 1: worked on the same team Italy staff at the w
35:12
Speaker 1: b C. So, first of all, AJ your thoughts about
35:15
Speaker 1: but Terra and I have to be honest. I didn't
35:17
Speaker 1: know much about him. When I saw the Butteran name,
35:19
Speaker 1: I thought it was Drew, not Blake. What do you
35:21
Speaker 1: think about about this move?
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Speaker 3: Cool? The Nationals are relevant at all, So I mean cool,
35:33
Speaker 3: he gets a job and he gets to like it's awesome,
35:35
Speaker 3: Mike Piazza, this is how things work now, Thana, I mean,
35:38
Speaker 3: have you paid attention? By the way, you always say
35:39
Speaker 3: you're Cuban, so you're Italian.
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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I don't know I
35:44
Speaker 1: have two parents. That's weird.
35:46
Speaker 2: I have.
35:46
Speaker 1: I have a mom and a dad. One's Cuban, one's Italian.
35:49
Speaker 2: Weird.
35:50
Speaker 3: You always say you're Cuban, so you can't just go
35:52
Speaker 3: Cuban to Italian. Well okay, but that's not the point here.
35:57
Speaker 3: The point is that as a as I'm Italian, I'm
36:00
Speaker 3: sure there's one little piece of me that's Italian. So
36:03
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you too, Okay, I'm a Tellian man
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Speaker 3: a little bit of Okay. But here's the thing, Like
36:11
Speaker 3: this how works now, Alana, Like you got to know
36:13
Speaker 3: somebody who knows somebody and you get him to call,
36:16
Speaker 3: or you work in for the Rays at some point,
36:18
Speaker 3: or you work in an organization and then all of
36:21
Speaker 3: a sudden they're looking for a manager and you sit
36:22
Speaker 3: in all the meetings like Craig Stamley're like, you know what,
36:24
Speaker 3: I could do that job, and I have all the
36:25
Speaker 3: answers because I already have to test. This is how
36:28
Speaker 3: it works in today's game. So I'm not surprised by this.
36:32
Speaker 3: Good for good for mister but Terra. I hope it
36:34
Speaker 3: works out for him. We'll see. But like the Nats
36:37
Speaker 3: aren't relevant because they're being sold, they don't spending money,
36:39
Speaker 3: and they're in a tough division.
36:41
Speaker 1: All right, so Eric, but Tara did not make a
36:43
Speaker 1: big deal about his youth or really honestly lack of
36:47
Speaker 1: managerial experience. Interestingly, he did not say he was prioritizing
36:52
Speaker 1: experience on his staff. You know, sometimes you want to
36:55
Speaker 1: like get veteran guys around you to have some help,
36:58
Speaker 1: and staid he said he was looking for people that
37:00
Speaker 1: align with his vision and coaches who were the best candidates.
37:04
Speaker 1: I don't know what your vision is. If you don't
37:05
Speaker 1: have any managerial experience at the big league level.
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Speaker 2: That's a good question. And as a ex player, I
37:15
Speaker 2: have to be careful. I got eviscerated when I made
37:17
Speaker 2: my comments that a player development guy doesn't necessarily know
37:23
Speaker 2: about making big league moves or big league like the
37:26
Speaker 2: day to day big league grind to me. I would
37:29
Speaker 2: want to surround myself, and this is how I think,
37:33
Speaker 2: I hope I live my life. I want to surround
37:35
Speaker 2: myself with people who know more than me in a
37:38
Speaker 2: situation that I'm in, so that I can learn from them.
37:40
Speaker 2: If you're constantly just surrounding yourself with like people in
37:45
Speaker 2: any walk of life. You're just gonna stay. You're just
37:49
Speaker 2: gonna stay kind of flatline and like it's just gonna
37:52
Speaker 2: be the same you and you're never gonna improve. So
37:54
Speaker 2: to me, I hope he has some kind of backing
37:58
Speaker 2: from somebody that has experience in the big leagues because
38:04
Speaker 2: he's the manager in the big leagues and he has
38:07
Speaker 2: to manage personalities in the big leagues. I just I
38:12
Speaker 2: think it's something that it was interesting what came out
38:15
Speaker 2: of it. But I'll actually want to revert back to
38:18
Speaker 2: what AJ said, The Gnats are not relevant. Had the
38:22
Speaker 2: Nats gotten somebody, another manager, a different manager, AJ, would
38:29
Speaker 2: they have Would it have made them relevant? Would it
38:31
Speaker 2: have made them relevant if they went out and got
38:33
Speaker 2: the best managerial candidate available, which in my opinion, which
38:37
Speaker 2: is all just opinion, you know, it's a Skip Schumacher,
38:41
Speaker 2: It's possibly, you know, Brandon Hyde was in the area,
38:44
Speaker 2: depending on what you thought of Brandon Hyde. But like,
38:47
Speaker 2: if they had gotten somebody relevant, does that change this
38:51
Speaker 2: season and next season for the Nets?
38:55
Speaker 3: They have to spend money. How did Jim Leland do?
38:59
Speaker 3: How did Jim Leland do for the Rockies when he
39:01
Speaker 3: went to the Rockies, I mean, he's a Hall of
39:03
Speaker 3: Fame manager. How did he do? And by the way,
39:07
Speaker 3: but he went to the Rockies and he was terrible
39:09
Speaker 3: as a manager, right, So because he didn't have any players.
39:11
Speaker 3: You don't have any players, you don't go out and
39:13
Speaker 3: get players, then you can't be a good I don't
39:15
Speaker 3: care who you are. You could be the greatest manager
39:17
Speaker 3: in the world and not have players. Joe Torre was terrible.
39:20
Speaker 3: You know, he was not regarded as a great manager
39:23
Speaker 3: when he was with the Braves, right, and Terry Francona
39:25
Speaker 3: when he was at the Phillies got fired because they
39:27
Speaker 3: weren't very good. And then he goes to the Rockies
39:29
Speaker 3: and he has all the I mean the Red Sox
39:31
Speaker 3: and he has all these great players. He's a great manager.
39:33
Speaker 3: So if you don't have players, it doesn't matter. The
39:35
Speaker 3: Nats aren't. They have already said they're not gonna go
39:37
Speaker 3: out and spend money. And here's the thing about his
39:39
Speaker 3: quote about I'm not a prioritizing experience. You gotta have
39:44
Speaker 3: somebody on the staff that knows what they're doing. No, listen,
39:48
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but like he's what thirty three I think
39:50
Speaker 3: his pitching coach is thirty, like he hired the assistant
39:54
Speaker 3: hitting coach. I think he's twenty nine or something, thirty
39:56
Speaker 3: two or whatever they are, Like, you got to have
39:59
Speaker 3: somebody that has some linked in their tooth a little
40:01
Speaker 3: bit that have been around and not everybody going into
40:04
Speaker 3: spring training going what do we do? Guys, Oh, we're
40:07
Speaker 3: gonna try and reinvent the wheel. Well, there's been guys
40:09
Speaker 3: that have reinvented the wheel. Gabe Kappler for years try
40:12
Speaker 3: to reinvent the wheel in San Francisco. It didn't work
40:14
Speaker 3: for him, right, Philadelphia didn't work. There's people that try
40:17
Speaker 3: and invent this. Now, why does it work for somebody
40:19
Speaker 3: like Joe Madden when he tried to reinvent the wheel
40:21
Speaker 3: because he had put in time after time after time
40:24
Speaker 3: with the Angels, and he had been in the big
40:26
Speaker 3: leagues and he had understood how players and this and that.
40:28
Speaker 3: If you have nobody that understands how to do this
40:30
Speaker 3: and just everybody is brand new, and we're like, we're
40:33
Speaker 3: just gonna find the people that agree with me and
40:34
Speaker 3: we'll just try everything new. It usually doesn't work. You
40:38
Speaker 3: gotta have some experience to slowly implement it. You just
40:40
Speaker 3: can't throw it all out there and hope it sticks.
40:54
Speaker 1: All right, gentlemen, it is time to slap hands. We
40:58
Speaker 1: don't have a ton of time left on the show. Eric,
41:00
Speaker 1: I want to ask you what's on Kratz Hats today?
41:04
Speaker 2: I mean where Josh Nayler Columbus Clippers. Okay, Josh Naylor
41:09
Speaker 2: just signed his contract, so might as well celebrate an
41:13
Speaker 2: ex Columbus Clipper get in paper.
41:15
Speaker 1: Yeah he got the bag, didn't he?
41:17
Speaker 2: Five years?
41:18
Speaker 1: Did they say the amount yet? Are we thinking one
41:20
Speaker 1: hundred millions? Not yet? All right, so five years? Good
41:22
Speaker 1: for you, Josh Naylor. A big show tomorrow on Foul Territory.
41:25
Speaker 1: I'm back with you guys again tomorrow. Astro's manager Joe Aspota,
41:29
Speaker 1: White Sox pitcher Shane Smith. Evan Grant is going to
41:31
Speaker 1: be doing his to do list much like Lance Lynn
41:34
Speaker 1: did today for the Cardinals. Evan Grant of the Dallas
41:37
Speaker 1: Morning News is going to be doing it for the
41:38
Speaker 1: Rangers as far as the off season is concerned. So
41:42
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that and much more. Scott Brown will
41:44
Speaker 1: be back with you guys on Wednesday. Coming up in
41:48
Speaker 1: just a few minutes. Dodgers Territory is back on Mondays
41:51
Speaker 1: and Thursdays in the off season. Ah I will be
41:54
Speaker 1: hosting that with my co host Clint Psias. We're talking
41:57
Speaker 1: about shush, shush. You're such a weird you don't mean
42:01
Speaker 1: to me. Be nice to me tomorrow. Thanks for watching, guys,
42:04
Speaker 1: thanks for listening. Aj Eric and myself back tomorrow, See
42:07
Speaker 1: you later.
42:08
Speaker 2: Go baters.
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Speaker 4: Yeah,