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Brutal Street Life to Power Broker - Anthony Bucci · Nightmare Success In and Out

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What happens when your worst fear becomes your reality?
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Hi. I'm Brian Cassidy.
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Welcome to the nightmare success.
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And Now podcast where we explore a, how to overcome your fears
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and Nightmares is set yourself free.
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We're going to be exploring this topic with guys that was in
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Leavenworth with and others who survived their own nightmare.
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These stories can be inspiring. Sometimes sad, there's some
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humor but hopefully you can come away with a nugget of something
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that will help you knock down some of the prisons.
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You Built up in your own mind. Welcome back, nine more success
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in and out listeners. This is where everybody comes to
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hear what happens when your worst fear becomes your reality.
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How do you adapt survive? Overcome set yourself free.
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Well, I've got a great guest today that he did a 180.
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I mean, a true life transformation.
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Is name is Anthony Bucci, he was sensitive, 21-year Federal
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Prison, Ins 21 years. But the interesting thing I was
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reading about Anthony is that he 15 and a half years in.
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He was able to do his own motion wrote himself.
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He wrote the motion on his own and he was the first inmate in
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the United States and went up. Parental release for
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compassionate release, which up until that time, there had been
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child or spouse but he was able to and I love this when end
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Dates are able to do this, open the door for other inmates, to
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be able to do something hadn't been done before, but he brought
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in the Horizon for image to go home, take care of their
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parents. He's got a paralyzed mother.
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He now gets to see on a day-to-day basis, but he's 180
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is really something I think is 180 will talk about this and
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unpack it. But it happened when he was in
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solitary confinement, thinking he didn't even want to be on
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this Earth anymore. And from that point forward, he
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started volunteering to take care of.
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Sick and terminally ill and inmates, he took over 50,
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educational courses, which also probably helped him.
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Write that motion. He was a dog handler, the train
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service, dogs for the handicapped and when he got out
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he published a book is novel called Infinity crew.
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He's a certified life coach and he's launched his own clothing
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All right, Anthony, welcome in my man.
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How are you doing? Pleasure to be here, Brian.
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I'm doing really really good. We're just talking about that
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you're up in Massachusetts, which they they're talking
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about. You might get a little bit of
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weather with the snow here overnight.
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So what you guys are used to that, right?
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Yeah. It's, this is crazy weather all
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the way here. We just can't get to that
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spring. It's not, it was all because I'm
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a gardener. I love God.
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He can't know. My Mantra is the dirt takes away
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the hurt dirty. Takes with her and I love that.
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I love that. So Anthony, you gotta take me
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back a little ways here, take me into life before all this prison
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stuff. What was Anthony like growing up
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as a kid? Well, when I was a kid, it all
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started at a young age. My father was a very, very
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abusive alcoholic / violent, man.
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He worked in a nightclub, you own a nightclub, he would get
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drunk at work, and come home and cause Havoc at, you know, later
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in the night, to this day, I can't sleep at all the lights
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off at this age because It brings back trauma for when I
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was a little kid because he would come home drunk and
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physically and mentally abused. My mom and me and my sister and
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you know, I would wake up from with screams from my mother and
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I would jump out of bed and try to help her and my father would
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just throw, you know, he was a big guy, we just throw me out of
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the way and, you know, we ended up with stitches and just you
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know, trauma that's carried with you because you're upset, such a
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young Engage your impressionable and you know to this day I still
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with it but you know so that was what my early ages were.
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Like my mother at six years old, took us out of where we were
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living in a city called Medford Massachusetts and we moved to my
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uncle's house. She called the state police, she
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had sixty dollars and a pocket. So we got to stay police escort
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out of the house, I slept on the floor, my uncle's house for a
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year or two one. My mother worked like two or
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three jobs. And you know, then we got an
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apartment. Finally, I don't know wrong.
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So you know, she I tip my hat to her.
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She did what she had to do to, you know, help us survive.
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But in the meantime, I was running the streets at such a
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young age and my mentor who was also my cousin.
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He was a gangster out of Boston. Eventually you move to Las
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Vegas. Party was hooked up with the
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Chicago mob. And while other kids were doing
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their homework, I was running around with him at nine, ten
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years old picking up envelopes of, you know, from debts and
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back. Then they had the water.
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He's so, you know, people playing the ticket and his thing
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was, if I got pinched, you know, you're not going to bother me in
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the 9 or 10 year old kids and I can't go to go to jail.
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So you know, I witnessed a lot of stuff guys, they didn't pay,
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he would come in and Hurt and no.
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So, I was seeing things at a young, you saw that, I seen
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everything. So I witnessed my Anthony on
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your, I mean, it sounds horrible as a kid trying to go in and
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protect your mom at an early age and and seeing the violence and
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the drunkenness of your your dad did, when she split with your
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dad and you guys do was there any other connection that you
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had with your dad? Add in your life or was it a
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clean split? No, it was I still had
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connection with him. He lived in and out of
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Massachusetts and when he would come home, I work with my mother
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would actually make me go with see him.
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As at that point, you know, I really didn't want to as a kind
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of afraid, but then Raptor my cousin started mentoring me and
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I was, you know, saw the violence firsthand and because I
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be in to accept it because it's only not life, I knew.
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And then I actually Understood my father as crazy as it sounds.
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And and you know what, I'll give you an example, like the changed
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my life. I was about 10, 11, whatever was
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and my father gave me a shortened fight for Christmas.
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And you know, I was, when I put, when I was at my grandmother's
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and grandfathers, my father would be over there metric.
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We have three out of three family house, and I came home
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one day without it because an older kid.
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Who was, you know, saw the bike, and liked it and he basically
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took it from me. I tried to fight him, but he was
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like 3 years older than me. And he, you know, by one home
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with a black eye and my father seen my face and he was like,
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what happened to you? I said, Dad the bike.
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You gave me some older kid. Took it.
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Because every mean Target I said well he beat me up and took the
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bike and he was like, okay then he goes look at me and I looked
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at him and he saw my eye he's like He actually put his hands
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on you and I was like, yeah. And I thought, my father was
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gonna, you know, take me to the kids house and get my bike back
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and talk to the father. Look at the, you know, the
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normal Channel. Yeah.
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But that, but that didn't happen.
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He walked to a drawer in the kitchen.
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There was a little 18-inch. Boston, Red Sox, commemorative
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baseball bat in there and he said to me what you hear, the
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threes and what you're going to do is you're going to hide this
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bad. You're going to go go.
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By the kid that took your bike and you're going to get close
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enough to talk to him and then you got to hit him over the
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bridge of his nose as hard as you can.
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And you're going to come home with that bike and if you don't,
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it's going to be worse for you than what he did or what I do to
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you. Well, so yeah, so I went found
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the kid. He was still had a paper bag.
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You don't have a paper where you put the bag over your shoulder,
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you sitting on the sidewalk, I walked up to him.
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He said, oh, you coming back for another beating us and I just
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want to talk to you. Can you just give me my bike?
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Back was a Christmas present for my dad and you are very happy.
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He goes on, you get two choices, you get away leave here, I'm
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going to beat you up again and you still be sat down and then
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when he got up and moved quickly to like a cat and hit him right
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across the nose, as high as I could, he went to the ground.
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One was everywhere and I got my bike back with the thing.
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Was he had an envelope and when I hit him and he fell on the
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ground and it was, you know, it's paper route money.
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And instead of just leave on my bike, I turned back took the
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envelope and then left, and then, you know, and I was on top
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of the world and it actually changed the course of my life
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for a long time because I like the power, the feeling of be.
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No. He's rattling taken.
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Yeah, taking back. What was mine and stand it up
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for myself and and told how would your dad Anthony when that
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happened? I was about 10 or 11, the kids
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like 14. Wow.
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Yeah, so that turned that happened for you.
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That feeling of having power. Taking back, what's yours?
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The the whole Adrenaline Rush? What, how did that going in?
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Did your teenage years. How did that develop for you?
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I thought I was invincible, I was always big for my age.
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So, you know, I just went to her.
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When we moved out of Medford, we went to a Suburban Town who was
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just like I was like a shock and a goldfish bowl and I was just
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like doing raising Havoc. I was doing whatever I wanted
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but I was also under the tutelage of an old-school
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gangster and you know, he took advantage of my eagerness and
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you know I was wrong. Point me only inside jobs
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brought this house robbed. At that house.
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Grab this guy coming out with money.
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Next thing, you know what, for my fist, through a baseball bat
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or I put he put a gun in my hand at 14.
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So, you know, is I would grew up the fast lane and it was crazy.
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I guess, you know, you. But you didn't know any
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different. I mean, you know, a lot of
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different guys that I talk to on this show, you know, the whole
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thing about being a product of your environment of what you see
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and what people do at your with, you know, Places people and
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things. You you had mentors, but the
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mentors were leading you into a path.
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That was the only thing you knew where their other friends that
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you had that were outside of that realm, or was your world
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just in that world? Well, I had two friends
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actually, that I had two different groups of friends.
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I had the burnouts, you know that, you know they didn't, you
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know, skip school and all that but I had normal.
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And then I had my old a group of friends like my cousin and them
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that, you know, I immerse my life into like I said, what I
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was kids are doing homework, I was out doing scores, you know,
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just doing stuff like that. And so, I was a product of my
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environment but I was like, happy as hell to be in that
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environment and very impressionable at that age.
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My cousin who I just spoke to he dated, and Margaret a famous
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movie star, who come to Boston. His friends were Rodney
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Dangerfield. And those, you know, we and
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people like that, you know, that I saw in a regular come see him
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in Boston and, you know, so I was just AA strike and, you
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know, I was, I was wearing different clothes and all the
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other kids my age. And, you know, I was living my
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life at a young age, young age and I appoint, I was a product
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of my environment, but it was very willingly.
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Yeah, I didn't learn to later in life that You know, that's how I
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took that turn. I should have went straight,
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it's always, it's always strange when you look back on that you
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you see moments in your life where you could have gone left
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instead of right? Or and and then how that all I
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think there's even a movie that's called came for.
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That is sliding doors and something where you were one
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day, you miss the train, the next day, you get on the train
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in it, how your life changes. Did you ever feel like Anthony
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that? You were going to get and in a
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bind and it was get a, you know, where you fearful of getting
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caught where you are, you just living that life that, you know?
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I'm on top of the world, I got some money and I'm hanging with
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older people and and it's all going my way.
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Or were you worried that maybe this is life that I could, you
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know, possibly Losing Myself. I was living that life crazy
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life without a regret. What's very selfish, you know, I
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thought because I was taught, never used the telephone and
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always speak in person, you know, and just do things by the
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book. You know, you going to do my
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stuff sold drugs. I never sold drugs and night was
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always in, you know, early in the morning and, you know, just
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going against the usual pattern of other guys cuz Because that's
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what I was taught. You know, I always like when I
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went to prison the first time they called me a master of
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counter-surveillance. So, you know, I would thought I
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was doing everything the right way.
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I thought a real tough guy. Was that guy like, eventually
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got married young? I had a girlfriend, I got a
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pregnant, you got married, and I had three, two daughters right
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away. And I would have been when,
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like, well would you then Anthony when that was going on.
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I was 23 when I first got married, and I have three
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daughters by my first marriage. Yep.
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And, you know, I was doing everything by the book.
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I mean, I didn't get pinched the first time so I we do a real
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pinch. When I was went away, when I was
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35, will take us through the take us through the real pinch,
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because it reads like something you see on TV.
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I mean, there was it, sounds like there was a police
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detective that was a part of this and the whole thing on.
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How can you Walk us through that whole nightmare when that
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happened to you. Well, actually that was my
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second pinch. The first engine, you got
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arrested for marijuana judge and I got 41 months in federal
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prison. Now, like I said, I was living
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that life. I had a house in Boston when I
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was married and I also had a place in Las Vegas so I would I
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was importing and exporting marijuana from California Vegas.
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The Boston that would go to Vegas.
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I had a A house in Laguna Beach. I was look at the product and
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they would ship it over to Boston.
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I would head out while it was driving back.
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I would stay in Vegas at my house in Vegas for three or four
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days. I was driving a Bentley.
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I mean I was living that life and they life.
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Yes. Yeah things couldn't have been
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better and I thought at that point a tough guy real tough,
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guys of guy that takes care of his family, you know, gives them
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the best clothes and the best cars the best house.
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So that's what I was doing. And, and I got 41 months, but
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distribution of marijuana. I never got to call it anything
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with just informants. And so, like, you know, I was
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able to pull you out to smaller sentence, 41 months, when I got
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arrested, either to both times. I've got a, I had other cases
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that I beat before that. So another way of thinking I was
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invincible because there was never any evidence against me
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because I never talk on phones, but which You get grabbed by the
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feds, they have that conspiracy and that's what happened with
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the marijuana. Just ghost, ghost marijuana.
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There was nothing, but some informants and I end up getting
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41 months. And when I went away for that
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and it was like crime school, I made contacts in prison, which
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back in the day where you know, marijuana was nothing.
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I had no criminal conviction. So I started out in a low-level
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prison and went right to a camp and but I did spend 13 In
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solitary confinement on that in that sentence because I grabbed
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the prison guide and put them on the floor.
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Well, actually, he grabbed me and I told him to get his hands
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off because, you know, he was assaulting me and I put him in a
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thumb, hold with a Jiu-Jitsu come home, and put them on the
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ground and they lock me up. And what I did because I was,
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you know, fairly intelligent is I wrote this town of Central
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Falls Rhode Island where I was at and And asking for, you know
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I press charges on him because I knew they were going to press
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charges on me. Try to give me five extra years.
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Yeah. So we both were I pressed
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charges on the car for solving me.
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And you know, I do they were going to do it.
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So the water and came and called me to his, you know, to his
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office and they burn me out of solitary.
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You said you press charges against one of my guys and said
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yeah he assaulted me you can see it right on the camera.
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I asked him three times to get his hands off me.
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He didn't and he said, well, what are we going to do here?
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You know, and I said, just he's so coming to keep you in.
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Solitary confinement, until you leave because I was pleading
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guilty, and I said, okay, so it was back in 1998 that I was
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pleading guilty in April 1st. Speaking of snow, we had a
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snowstorm in Boston. We got like three feet of snow
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on April Fool's Day, so my sentencing trike delayed till
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January from April. There's a collection, so busy,
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so I was in solitary confinement, 13 months, lost
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like, 90 pounds, before I even left, and that was my first bin
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in Prague. I said, once I got to where I
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was going, it was easy time. We were getting outside food.
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We were like, it was just like you see in Goodfellas drinking
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wine smoking. So guys, I gave me outside food,
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so I made a lot of connections and when I got out, I hit the
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ground running. And, you know, started selling
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drugs again, and I got arrested the second time because they
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thought I was getting search warrants and waking up with
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police and they will give me inside information on who to Rob
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and all that stuff. When I wouldn't cooperate,
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because they really want to have a police force.
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And I said, no, I got 21 years for Day conspiracy.
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Well, well, in that time, period, when all that was going
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on the three daughters, the wife, did you have them through
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that first bit? My wife's divorce me, when I
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just went for, I was getting out the first time she had had
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enough. I put her through.
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Hell yeah. And like and I didn't learn to
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getting that 21-year, send the second time that I wasn't a
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tough guy in a real tough guy. Is there for his kids.
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He's, you know, I was there for my kids.
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Don't get me wrong, I love my kids, and I showed him a lot of
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love, but I never laid a finger on them and I never actually
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even yelled at them, but I didn't give them the Quality
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time like a real tough guy, gives them like I was sometimes
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when I was away like they would wake up in the middle and I
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cried and I wasn't home. You know, I was I bought them
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nice clothes and nice homes and you know their first cars.
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But You know, I wasn't there enough and you know, I love my
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kids so much. I was selfish and not thinking
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that I was hurting them when I was so Anthony, when you got 21
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years. Did you know that you were
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looking at that much time? No, actually, I didn't because
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you know was a one at that point in time I had actually stopped
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selling drugs. I was into real estate, I had
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gotten married a second time. When I got out, I had a son and
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I was spending all, you know, most of my time at home and a
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friend of mines brother was getting drugs from, you know,
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Mexican drug dealer. And we told him to stop because
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it was getting messed up, and they would do it in my friend
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wanted to Rob them. Teach him a lesson.
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Well, I said no bunch of times. And then finally, I gave in
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because I started using drugs because my sister was very close
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to God, cancer. They gave it three years to live
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and I was getting all messed up. I was using something.
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I had never done before, like that.
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And, you know, I was we're so close.
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It was, and I was so hurt you. I just became a different person
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as far as the guy got consumed with doing drugs and and I've
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screwed up my whole life and you know, that's why I got sloppy
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and I went away the second time, did you know that was it just
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they break down the door and come and get you or did you
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realize that something was going down and that they were after an
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investigation for to come after you?
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I really didn't know what was going on.
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I know that we get, I robbed the drug dealer.
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I told my pot while the kid who wanted to set it up to not talk
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to him over the phone, meet him in person, he ignored my
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request, he ordered paintings which were kilos of coke over
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the phone. His phone was tapped to days
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before and they had it on tape and when we robbed them, it was
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9. Surveillance teams watching the
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whole thing. Go down.
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Well, and actually we actually got away because the plan was,
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it was just a simple, wasn't even anything we do with
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violence, it was a simple. I parked my car in a parking
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lot, my friend at the time, pulled in with the Mexican Epoch
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next to me. And then we had a brother friend
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of ours, who was a law enforcement pull in behind our
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cars to block us in with the blue lights on and my buddy ran
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away down the hill with the draw.
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It was a simple scheme or wasn't even anything crazy.
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Yeah, in that scheme that's team took literally three minutes to
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do. And, and by the time I left, it
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was 15 minutes tops and I got 21 years for that what I just
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described to you, but they didn't get us that day because
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the getaway driver was at the bottom of the hill.
24:27
They took off. So the feds were watching and
24:30
they didn't know what was going on.
24:31
They saw an officer that they knew and what they did is they
24:36
they put pressure on the kid who begged me to do it.
24:38
Did I grew up with, for many nuisance?
24:40
We were in, you know preschool and they put the pressure on him
24:46
and he buckled, he went down like the Titanic and he gave
24:50
everybody up. He wore a body wire and the rest
24:54
is history and I got that tire sentence.
24:56
But to be honest with you, I don't even have any room, you
25:00
know. I know it sounds crazy, but I'm
25:02
not really. I don't hate that guy.
25:04
Yeah, like I I leave everything to the furies.
25:07
I went the universe and all that kind of stuff.
25:10
And to me it probably that arrest probably saved my life
25:13
because I was using some of the drug.
25:16
So heavily I didn't have a care in the world and I was either
25:21
going to end up overdosing or, you know, because a lot of stuff
25:24
was going on in Boston. At the time, I wished I would
25:27
have ended up probably getting killed or something that's deep.
25:30
So, I mean that's detail you get a 21 year sentence in a saved
25:34
your life because you don't, Medically think that you think
25:37
of to me the weight of that because, you know, you and I
25:40
were talking before I got on and I got 25 years since I can't
25:43
imagine doing any more time than that.
25:45
And getting a 21 years since his wake, how do you eat that?
25:50
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All right, so let's let's talk about this.
26:58
So you get 21 years. How old are your daughters, and
27:01
your and your son at this time? My son was three and a half,
27:05
almost walk, and my daughters are all teenagers 1670 and 13.
27:11
So it was, you know what, I always say when it's something
27:13
like this happens, the whole family has to deal with this.
27:16
It's you know, the family goes out for isn't and they have to
27:19
figure out in their own way. How do you handle somebody that
27:23
you love that goes to prison? And then how does your life go
27:26
and connect and deal with it? So going in 21 years, first of
27:35
all, where did you go? After pre-trial, I went to I've
27:42
been in eight different prisons. So I was also Pennsylvania that
27:46
you are and Hampshire Massachusetts Connecticut there
27:52
around the block. Saying was I got out the first
27:58
time and I had my kids every weekend or every other weekend.
28:02
I spend as much time as I could with down. when I got pinched
28:06
for this, I was like, shocked because like I said, I wish I
28:09
had given up basically the life because I was doing so well in
28:12
real estate and I get back in to do this guy a favor and he ended
28:17
up changing the narrative and blaming me for everything and he
28:21
was scared for his life because I was just mean that being
28:27
person and the FEDS, I don't know if they bought it hook line
28:30
and sinker but they seem to because it was a total flip of
28:34
what rail Happen. I mean, I eat must have called
28:36
me 20 times and I said, no, but I did give in and I am guilty
28:41
and, you know, I accept responsibility for all of it.
28:45
But you know, I actually got hit over the head with 21 years for
28:49
a 15-minute conspiracy because it was, you know, the War on
28:52
Drugs was going on and I wouldn't flip out when, you
28:56
know, that's when they really want to see when you do, when
28:59
you don't cooperate ban, they take you for a ride Anthony.
29:03
Let's talk about going into prison for 21 years, because
29:07
That's different than you're going to be there for a little
29:11
while, you're going to be there for decades.
29:16
What was going through your mind knowing that you've been to
29:19
prison before, but this was a different type of stent for you.
29:22
What, what were you thinking going in?
29:25
Because I know that and I don't know when your transformation
29:28
happened, but going in this second time, where were you and
29:33
your mind? I was better.
29:37
I was angry and I was mad. I got sold out once again, by
29:41
lifelong friends. And so when I went to prison, I
29:44
had is real serious chip on my shoulder.
29:47
I'll never forget it. Like I said, I did the 13
29:50
months, but, you know, when the surgeon got on the ground, but I
29:53
also was at mail call and do picked up my, I had the Boston
29:58
Herald deliver, and he picked up my newspaper.
30:00
He was just reading it and I just walked up to him and
30:03
punched him in the face. Knock them out.
30:06
And then I turned to the whole pod and I said, anybody crosses
30:10
me or disrespect me, this is what you're going to get.
30:13
I said that before. They want me for being the shoe,
30:17
but, you know, is right from the start that I had, you know, the
30:19
message was pedal to the metal and it's on.
30:22
Anybody has a, you know, starts with me, it's all gone.
30:26
We can do whatever you want. I had that nasty.
30:29
Nasty attitude. I was angry bitter.
30:33
I know, I let my family down. Let my kids down again.
30:36
We just had gotten close again and I was really disgusted in
30:41
myself and I was taking it out and everybody else.
30:44
Else. So, how long into your prison
30:47
sentence did? Because I think it happened in
30:49
solitary confinement, but this 180 that happened.
30:53
Can you walk us through that? Yeah, I was in prison.
30:59
I was in prison called FCI. Loretto away on Pennsylvania by
31:02
the West Virginia line and I had Had stopped my friends.
31:08
Had fell off the map, like I said, I'm doing 21 years.
31:11
I was like seven years into my bid in there.
31:13
They stopped sending me money. Helping me financially.
31:17
And you know, where he really in contact.
31:21
I like kids were very upset with me.
31:24
You know, they have been banded, many issues, they were, you
31:27
know, sure, mad mad at me. I wasn't even hearing from them
31:31
at one point, four years. And I was doing whatever I had
31:36
to do to survive. The order was selling tobacco
31:39
that, you know, like corrupted, I want a prison guard and, you
31:43
know, he actually came up to me and he's like, hey, you're
31:45
pretty solid guy. I see you went to trial and the
31:48
case and I knew that was he was trying to get, you know, get me
31:52
into some and I was like, yeah, I go, I would never tell not
31:55
even on an office. So what do you want to do?
31:58
And he's like, I can get you tobacco.
32:00
So I started selling tobacco, I had a card game.
32:04
I was doing things and I was in and out of solitary.
32:06
One time, somebody told on me, you know that I was supposedly
32:10
doing something with a god, they put me under 90 days in the shoe
32:15
for investigation hoping that I would you know, tell but that
32:19
was that was never going to happen.
32:21
Well, you know, your Auntie for those people who know the sis,
32:25
which is the ID, the people that inside the prison that
32:28
investigate inside the prison. That's serious shit.
32:32
I mean, you know, those guys As they don't mess around and it's
32:39
and they'll put people away, you know, that s is when they come
32:42
around and they tear the place up and they do their
32:44
investigations, that's weird when that happens inside prison,
32:47
you know you see it on the outside, you got investigate but
32:50
you got people inside that are like ants the go around there
32:53
and do their thing. It's kind of a strange
32:56
environment. Special Investigative Services
33:01
are called, as I answer. Yeah.
33:02
That's for the piano. I was on an island that don't
33:04
know what sis is. Yeah, I was on their radar big
33:08
time and maybe you know, I was going to the Shu left and right
33:11
under investigation but it is that the other thing and by the
33:15
time 2000, I was seven years into my videos are on 2010.
33:20
I had a card game in. Somebody wasn't paying me and I
33:25
put a knife to this time. I can told the guy I never
33:27
figured I'll come You from here to here if you cuz I knew he was
33:31
going home with you don't pay me.
33:33
He went running to sis you to the name and they locked me up
33:37
under investigation, this time was going to be the six months
33:40
until the guy left. So, I'm in solitary confinement,
33:45
I hears at rock bottom and I said to myself, you know, either
33:50
I got to change or I'm going to end this misery, you know, take
33:55
my own life, but I couldn't do that.
33:57
But I was contemplating it and it was like an epiphany like, a
34:01
message from God. I was having these thoughts, and
34:04
I got a knock on my door and it was a prison from the, I mean,
34:08
it was I God from the first prison.
34:10
I was talking about in Rhode Island Island.
34:12
He transferred down to Pennsylvania and he picked up a
34:16
shift. He had transferred and got there
34:18
when I was in the shoe and he heard I was there.
34:20
And I was in the shoe. So he picked up a shift just to
34:24
come see me and say, hello, because he liked me and, you
34:27
know, he was, he working at the shoe and Rhode Island to when I
34:30
was in there for 13 months. So he knocked on my door, right?
34:34
When I was having these thoughts and I looked up and I caught him
34:37
believe it. He's like what's up hoochie?
34:40
And he goes, you just back to Our old self pride and he was
34:44
passing out paper and Pen. You know, it's what they do.
34:47
They go around with toupees papers and all that and I like
34:54
you had the paper and pen and white took the paper and after
34:58
it, you know, I said now I'm all set, but he was like, alright,
35:01
dear family, right? You kids?
35:03
So I took the paper and pen and that's when I started writing my
35:06
book, i didn t crew vinegar. That's it for those watching on
35:11
YouTube. It's right behind him and that's
35:14
great. Cool looking cover to thank you.
35:17
So Infinity crew basically saved my life starting that book and I
35:22
had all that I still had four five months left in the shoe and
35:25
get a lot of soul searching. I started meditating, I got
35:29
booked scented to me. My mom was sending me all kinds
35:31
of books and I Just said, you know what, I'm going to change
35:35
as a human being. Because, you know, I want to be
35:38
somebody my kids and Society could, you know, be proud of
35:42
not, like, his menace to society that I had been.
35:46
So, when I got out of solitary, I volunteered, and I took care
35:50
of a sick and terminally ill inmates.
35:53
I started further educating myself, taking College, college,
35:57
correspondence, courses, paralegal courses, one of them,
36:02
I got We good with the law actually helped or three, guys
36:06
get out. And then, you know, in my soul,
36:11
I was in Pennsylvania. And so I started to like I said,
36:13
taking care of the sick and terminally ill inmates, and one
36:17
guy ended up dying like he was in the hospital two days before
36:22
he died and the Lord and went to see him and, you know, medical
36:27
and chaplain went and he was telling them how group, you
36:30
know, how good I took care of him and when he died, They came
36:33
and told me themselves, the warden was so impressed.
36:36
He said we are Camp eligible because at this time, I was at a
36:40
low low level prison, we are Camp eligible, I'll send you
36:45
wherever you want, your really really changed, you know, you
36:48
know, you're not a problem anymore.
36:50
And I've noticed it and all the gods of the saying, you know,
36:54
how come, you know, you're very respectful now and everything
36:56
because I wasn't. And so I, you know, I kept
37:01
taking the courses I took. In courses, I took the college
37:05
correspondence. Like I said, I help deter sick
37:08
and terminally ill. And when I was Camp eligible,
37:10
they sent me to Massachusetts, which is closer to my mom.
37:15
And at that time, she hadn't had her stroke and I volunteered and
37:19
I started became a dog handler like you said and I start I
37:24
trained. I graduated helped helped
37:26
graduate three dogs. You know.
37:29
One went to the courthouse. Yeah.
37:32
And they got to Giving myself. That's exactly like Mom.
37:35
Yeah, there's starting that at Leavenworth after I left and I
37:42
can only imagine what that was like to have, you know, a dog
37:45
with you in prison. I would have loved that.
37:49
And, and, and to be able to do really good things.
37:52
You know, you traded a dog to help some of those handicapped.
37:54
I mean, I would have to think Anthony that your time felt
38:00
different, and you kind of ate your time.
38:03
Currently with this transformation of what you were
38:06
doing, it became so much easier. You know why I had, if I had to
38:12
be honest with you, I was so, so selfish and controlling, you
38:17
know, like before prison. And then, even when I went to
38:21
prison, I wouldn't really push that power was like a power
38:24
struggle with me and the gods, and I was very disrespectful and
38:27
all that, but once I let go of that power, You know, which was
38:31
difficult for me the time. Got so much easier like you just
38:34
said and especially with the dogs.
38:36
Oh yeah. Like when I had a dog a dog
38:38
living in myself and I love dogs.
38:41
That's well yeah, it's unbelievable.
38:44
Like I actually got really really sad because I would take
38:48
the dog as a puppy and then 13 months.
38:51
He's he was going away. One went to the hospital went to
38:55
somebody with PTSD and another dog actually went to a
38:58
courthouse or Young kids who had to testify.
39:02
He was like a comfort dog and, you know, so it was unbelievable
39:05
experience. It was, you know, something that
39:08
made in the time go by much better and it was just it was
39:11
another way of me giving back to society, something I wanted to
39:14
do. Yeah.
39:16
So that was great. And then my mother had a stroke
39:20
in 2016 and I was very close with my mom and I actually felt
39:26
it. I felt like something was wrong
39:28
because I was in Massachusetts and I never called her on the
39:31
Saturday. She was coming to visit me the
39:33
next day on Sunday, but I just knew I felt something I call the
39:38
check up on her and she couldn't she couldn't even press 5 on the
39:42
phone to accept the call and then we had Chow dinner.
39:48
And then I called right after dinner again and she finally
39:51
press five and I said, Mom, what's wrong with you ever, you
39:54
know, problems with your phone? She said, I don't remember, I
39:58
said, I called you three or four times she didn't You know, you
40:00
didn't answer, you didn't press 5, I could hear you in for the
40:03
phone, what you did? She said, I don't know.
40:06
Anthony I'm very scared. So really scared, she goes, I'm
40:10
so confused, I don't know. And I got off the phone, I had
40:14
to wait a half hour between phone calls and I called my
40:17
daughter and I was like something to get over to
40:19
grandma. Something is real.
40:20
Seriously, wrong. She's very confused.
40:23
You know. So she they went by there.
40:25
She end up going to the hospital and she had a serious throat
40:29
stroke. Keep rotating stroke through her
40:31
spine, and she became paralyzed. So in, you know, having educated
40:38
Myself, by that time, I had been transferred to New Hampshire and
40:46
I was, you know, watching the do different laws trying right?
40:49
Always fought. The first circuit called me that
40:52
poster child for tenacity. I put so many emotions, you
40:56
know, constitutional motions through a good run.
40:59
I thought were wrong. Event.
41:00
But I got denied and I found 2019 when they did prison reform
41:08
and Trump sign prison reform inside of prison reform.
41:12
There was a clause that if you put in compassionate releases
41:19
that you could now if the warden denied you, which they did, they
41:23
just rubber-stamp the night everybody, you could go to the
41:26
federal courts, go to federal court.
41:28
So all these things I did when I did had got my, did my 180.
41:32
Yeah. All became relevant.
41:34
And the judge looked at my motion.
41:39
And I had a per Aspera, parental compassionate release because my
41:42
sister had passed away, my father died.
41:45
While I was away, my mother really had nobody for a media
41:49
family. Take care of her and so I tried
41:52
to get a be released for that. The judge took it into
41:55
consideration. Oh, I forgot to tell you one
41:58
thing. So, when I put the Ocean in.
42:00
I was granted a hearing and they for point they told me I could
42:05
get a lawyer. So I had this girl who I met in
42:09
prison, her name was Allison Cory.
42:11
She was visiting one of my friend and she was an attorney
42:15
and when we won the visit, he introduced me to her and we
42:18
started talking with the law and she saw that, I knew what I was
42:22
doing and she actually would come visit me, and ask me my
42:26
advice on different cases and stuff and I wouldn't, you know,
42:29
how long? I'll let you know, my thoughts
42:31
on different stuff. Because as an inmate in been
42:35
through the system, like, I know, I worked.
42:37
It's, you know, and I gave gave her a different perspective on
42:40
things and I would, you know, help her out and she would, you
42:43
know, educate me on certain things too.
42:46
So we freak became friends. So I asked her if she would
42:49
argue the motion that I authored and she doctored it up, she fix
42:54
it up nice and she argued it for me on October 7, 2000 19.
42:59
And I was granted Did an immediate release.
43:02
I was the first one in the United States to win a parental
43:04
compassionate release. I opened the doors for many,
43:07
many guys to go home, and take care of family members, as such
43:11
a clause. Try such a cool story.
43:14
So to get an immediate release like that.
43:18
What in the world were you thinking when they told you that
43:22
you were going to get released? Because I mean, I'm sure gave me
43:26
hopeful but what was going through your brain.
43:30
Rain when they said, hey Anthony.
43:31
You're out of here. I had two hours, they sent me
43:35
back to the unit to pack my stuff up and everybody was
43:38
hugging me and you know, so happy for me because you know I
43:43
they knew I was one of the solid guys on the unit.
43:45
Like you know, you can count on me.
43:46
I'm never going to tell on you. I'm not going to you know and I
43:51
was actually at that point I was older and I was like a who I
43:54
became a voice of reason. Because early in my sentence of
43:57
a Boston guy had a problem. I would be say let's go.
44:00
Let's go. Yeah, suit up and let's go.
44:03
No, you're not going to disrespect us but then I became
44:05
a voice of reason and I educated the young guys like there's a
44:08
better way and you know, I try to help them and teach them
44:12
that, you know, educate yourselves because you know the
44:15
streets streets on forever. You know that game is over and I
44:18
realized it. So you know, when I had two
44:21
hours ago, I was on top of the Moon and I'll never forget it
44:25
because it was a day that it rained so hard.
44:30
I had you know the camp driver actually drove me.
44:33
I'm from New Hampshire to Massachusetts and it was so
44:36
scary because it was so it was raining cats and dogs.
44:40
As soon as we hit the Massachusetts line, it stunk
44:44
well and it's like the sun was out.
44:46
It was just like, it's something I'll never forget.
44:48
Then I went home and my kids were there and family members
44:52
and everybody was so happy, but it all happened like that, and I
44:56
was actually thrust back into society.
44:59
I was scared. Yeah.
45:00
I admit I was institutionalized All In.
45:03
Admit it, I was just like frightened and I took me out two
45:06
months to be able to go out of my house.
45:08
Like, you know, I was under home confinement.
45:10
The first year, they had maybe they gave me two years home
45:13
confinement, but they knock the year of it off because I did so.
45:15
Well, I published the book that became a life coach.
45:19
I was my probation officer saw that.
45:22
The strides I was making and knew that I was no, like the
45:26
right to society. So my judge they even probation
45:30
and put in for an early termination of I'm home behind
45:34
me, which is great. And then they trusted, you know,
45:37
that was doing the right thing, but it was scary as hell.
45:40
I'll never forget, I went to Target across the street from
45:43
where I live. I walked across the street after
45:46
everybody left and I got so nervous.
45:49
I had a basket. I just put the basket down and
45:52
walked back home. Yeah.
45:54
And I that first night I had really no much clothes nothing.
45:57
And I brush my teeth with my finger.
46:00
Yeah. Because I was I was so scared to
46:02
be in that that story was like paranoid was weird.
46:06
It is weird. I wasn't in as long as you at
46:08
all. But I remember when I got out
46:11
and we stopped by a quick trip just to get a soda and and fill
46:18
out the car and I walked in with my family and when it got we
46:23
brought our stuff up there. They said dad you got to pay.
46:27
I was just like random in my head.
46:30
What was going on? It was like everything was
46:32
moving like Like 180 miles an hour and it really I hadn't paid
46:36
anything. So, you know, your card for
46:39
commissary, indeed. You don't even your your brain,
46:43
I think takes a while to plug back into society, and I always
46:49
say it's like trying to jump in a moving car.
46:51
I can't imagine what it'd be like 15 and a half years later
46:53
because you know things seem like when you when you get out
46:57
they just move so fast. Yeah, and when I got out, I knew
47:02
how to work a lot of work to do to re-establish my relationship
47:06
with my kids and stuff because it had been so so erratic at
47:10
you. Yeah.
47:11
But things weren't good, you know over the years because you
47:15
know, they like them down. So I wanted to show them, you
47:18
know, that I changed and all that I was doing a really good
47:21
job. And like I said, when I was in
47:23
solitary confinement, I was at my lowest point.
47:26
My doc is pointed, you know, I made it through that, but in
47:30
2022 last year I went back there.
47:36
Well, the shirt my daughter was a State Trooper.
47:43
And we bring on. We were very, very close.
47:46
And she got killed last year, man.
47:48
And yeah. So the last year has been the
47:53
hardest of my life hotter than How did it get in sentence
48:01
hotter than three and a half years in the shoe?
48:03
It was like rock bottom and I was waiting took me all the way
48:09
back, but I'm moving forward and I'm still doing the right thing
48:15
and I'm, you know, trying to make her proud.
48:17
She passed me the torch. So I started a foundation in her
48:21
honor, tombliboo, Chi foundation, and its online to
48:26
it's a website, come up with you.
48:28
Nation.com. And I'm trying to like raise
48:32
money to build a park in her honor and I'm helping like a I
48:36
know one guy, he just got his partner a life just got killed.
48:41
So I'm getting him mental health counseling because I couldn't
48:47
get any mental health counseling for like 18 days after my
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daughter was killed and you know so I know how bad how bad that
48:55
is. So I'm trying to help give back
48:57
to society. City that way to build.
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I want to build a park in Toronto because, you know, my
49:03
worst nightmare is that she's forgotten.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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She sacrificed. She pulled all the to help a
49:10
disabled motorists in attracting that I've had and it's like in
49:15
my household 4 a.m. in the morning State Police and told me
49:18
and, you know, bring me to my knees and never taking all this
49:23
time. I'm just getting back to my
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feet. Yeah, I can't I can't imagine.
49:29
I mean, I've got three daughters and I just takes my breath away
49:34
when you say that because but you know that's video but I
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think I know one thing though what you're doing is incredible
49:42
thing, as a dad you know, keeping her memory alive and and
49:46
a park would be you know where people go to enjoy and be
49:50
outdoors and and be around each other as a family.
49:54
I think that's incredible what you're doing.
49:57
Yeah, my daughter was into physical fitness, you love dogs
50:00
and she loved kids. So I'm going to cooperate, all
50:03
three of them and have a dog park area, and and they are
50:06
going to have a fitness area and I want to have, you know, an
50:10
area for the kids and, you know, I'm like, how does one
50:14
fundraiser so far? I like I said, I was numb, I was
50:20
in the ashes for so on, I'm just starting to rise back out.
50:23
But like, when I got 21 years and sentence in prison, I walked
50:27
out of that courtroom. On my chin back, my chin up
50:30
shoulders back like a marine when I got this news.
50:35
It broke me. It's the hottest thing ever.
50:38
Like I didn't like I've heard of tragedies and families before
50:41
and everything and I'm like, I don't like anyone else.
50:44
I would feel bad but I had no idea the level of pain.
50:51
Is there a place Anthony that you can go?
50:55
Where there's other families that have lost somebody that way
51:01
that you guys can be together and talk like are there groups?
51:05
I gotta go too. Yeah, right, I just haven't been
51:09
ready for that yet. I've been going to grief
51:10
counseling, every Monday and I wasn't even sure I was going to
51:14
bring this up today but it's funny because I was looking for
51:18
something to wear and in the first thing I saw was a
51:22
brand-new. There's a shirt.
51:25
Yeah a lot of I said let me with my daughter I said state trooper
51:30
so it has her Was a license plate number of the car.
51:37
She drove 4440 was a badge number.
51:42
So I said, you know what, I'm going to wear it in honor of her
51:44
today. It's great.
51:47
I love that. Thank you.
51:49
I'm proud of you. Anthony getting through that
51:52
because I mean, you know, going through all that you've gone
51:55
through and then having that happen, it would be too easy for
51:58
you to fall way back and and so dark and what you're trying to
52:01
do is create space for memory and remember in the good things
52:08
and who she was. And I think hopefully that park
52:14
ends up given a lot of people Joy.
52:16
Showing up and and being named after.
52:19
I think that's, it's an incredible thing to do really
52:22
is, I'm trying, I know you're trying So Anthony going through
52:31
all this you've gone through, I mean, you've gone through so
52:34
many different levels of your life and where you are today.
52:41
What do you think your biggest takeaway out there to give to
52:43
the listeners of what you what you've gone through?
52:47
Don't part? Well, for any young listeners, I
52:52
would say there's two paths in life is the easy road that I
52:56
thought, you know, was the easy life and then there's the right
52:59
Road, the right path. And Do you think know the good,
53:06
the money and the, you know, the past, you know, money and doing
53:11
illegal things as you know? Cool.
53:13
It's really not cool, especially Young Fathers and stopping
53:17
living that life. What's really cool is being
53:20
there for your kids, helping them with their homework,
53:23
bringing them to that Park. Like I'm going to build being
53:26
there in the middle of night when they wake up from a bad
53:29
dream and all that. I wasn't cool with that time.
53:32
And I thought I was because Was you know, bring in material
53:37
things home to my kids, but I wasn't spending the quality time
53:41
and stuff. And like I said, the only way
53:45
I'm getting through this with my daughter is the last few years
53:48
of Our Lives. We were inseparable, we talk or
53:50
five times a day. She fully forgave me.
53:54
I you know, I help them, you know her I did her apartment for
53:59
her. I get all like you know, hanging
54:00
the pictures and all that stuff stuff like I would never Dad
54:04
stuff that I never would have done before.
54:05
I would have hired one of my Carpenter friends to go do it,
54:09
you know, I mean, but with her I think you had that though, you
54:14
guys able to be close and put all that back together and be
54:18
together. I don't have one regret in the
54:21
world. As far as that goes because we
54:23
got back tight and close, you know, why she had called it a
54:27
month before she did. So, I took care of her to shop
54:30
for her hung out and watch TV with her when she was just, you
54:34
know, sick with the cold because she had asthma.
54:36
I went and got her medicine when she had a colonic.
54:39
I'm not a colonic colonoscopy in January couple of months before
54:44
she got killed. She asked me to take her like to
54:47
me. That was the greatest thing in
54:49
the world. Although I know it's because
54:51
usually you would ask, you know? So I'm woman.
54:53
She asked me, I was the only one who had a key to her apartment.
54:57
It was just, we're on such a level of trust and love that,
55:01
you know, it's just such a shame that this had to happen, but the
55:06
reason we got yeah, yeah, he did.
55:09
You got there. Yeah.
55:11
What life life throws? So many different curves.
55:15
And, yep, how you react to them is, How you walk through life,
55:20
it's just you can't ever explain something like that.
55:25
Can't. And I don't, you know, as far as
55:27
you what you said is like I said, there's two paths in life
55:30
and I would tell the young listeners to go down, they'll do
55:34
the right Road, and use all that talent, and all that energy you
55:38
have on the right thing. Because look at me a 20-year,
55:41
you know, that's not how it hotter.
55:43
Yeah, but I got 20 years in prison and I'm like really
55:46
intelligent guy and I could use all that.
55:50
Smartness and energy and doing something right and I would be a
55:54
rich rich man. Today's instead, I'll we live in
55:57
a 2000 square foot apartment that we rent.
56:02
Yeah, I drove a Bentley back in the day and now I'm trying to at
56:07
least Jeep, but you know what? I don't have to look over my
56:11
shoulder anymore and, you know, like I can live a nice peaceful
56:14
life and help people and help myself and be there for my mom
56:18
because my mom had no Oh, baby. So she told her about a quality
56:22
of life. That's a big deal.
56:24
It's a big deal. In Italian, what's important in
56:27
life is the relationships, you have with your family and
56:29
friends and material, things are on the outer level of that.
56:33
And you know, both you and I have been through the material
56:36
stuff and you find out when you go through your worst nightmare
56:41
what's really important? And and that's, you know, some
56:45
people never some people never find that Anthony.
56:48
That's the thing. Yeah, all those cool guys that I
56:51
thought were like my boys and when they're for me, they've
56:56
dumped me in a heartbeat, then you'll be two or three years and
56:59
they were gone. Yeah, unlikely to my settings,
57:01
the guys that I often protected and protected and took the time
57:06
for and, you know, I want to make sure Antony that everybody.
57:12
I know you can go to Amazon to get infinity crew, how else of
57:17
people get a hold of you? Okay, you can go to a if you
57:21
want to buy the book and check, check it out.
57:23
It's on Amazon Barnes & Nobles in any in like 75, other selling
57:28
platform. So you just type into Google,
57:32
Anthony, J Bucci, Infinity crew window pop up.
57:36
I'm also the convicted vegan on Instagram.
57:39
I'm being, I know, I don't look like one, but I'm vegan.
57:42
And I'm on Facebook on the Anthony J.
57:46
Buchi. And if you want to check out my
57:50
website or my personal website, is the convicted being where I
57:54
have my apparel, you know, clothing line.
57:57
But if you want advice on, just DM me.
58:00
Because you hurt your. I'm on here and I'll give you a
58:02
better deal. Plus I'm really not set up yet
58:07
anymore for selling on that on that platform.
58:10
So just DM me on Instagram and What else all I wanted to say
58:17
one more thing if you want to check out my daughter's the
58:20
website is You Know Tamar Bucci. Foundation.com.
58:25
You know if you need you to tell me you can donate a dollar
58:27
towards that Park would be asked for absolutely say that again,
58:32
that website. Tama ta M, AR hoochie.
58:36
BCCI foundation.com, love it. Hope everybody got that.
58:43
I'll be doing a good thing. If everybody reads Infinity crew
58:48
and they want to read another book, I've got 12 nightmare
58:50
success, you can check me out. All the places that Anthony
58:53
talked about Amazon Barnes & Noble, love the likes out there
58:59
on social media comments if you if you go to Apple, I go to
59:05
those three lines at the top. Hit the follow button Spotify.
59:09
You hit the Bell. Leave a review that really pumps
59:12
up the volume of how they promote the show.
59:14
All you do is you just scroll down my page there.
59:17
And it's got reviews. Click on leave a review.
59:20
This is write a review, Brent, cast, you.com remember.
59:23
I spell Cassidy wrong. It was still with spelt with a
59:25
tcas ity, bring kasa.com, leave me a message there as I used to
59:31
say when I I was writing my e-mails back and forth in
59:35
prison. Stay strong.
59:36
I'll do the same Anthony's. Thanks so much today.
59:40
Being here, sharing your story, proud of you, man.
59:44
Thank you. It was a pleasure and I
59:46
appreciate you. And having me never success in
59:50
and out, thanks for being here today.