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Mac & Bone Show - Jones Angell Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: All right, we got Jones Angel back with us now.
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  Speaker 1: We thought he may have hung up over a protest
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  Speaker 1: over our lame dad jokes, but Jones Angel is with us.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, Jones? How you doing, man?
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  Speaker 3: Hey, guys. No, I could hear you. You couldn't hear me,
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  Speaker 3: but hey, we're going to make it happen. Glad to
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  Speaker 3: be with you guys. And, uh, Busy weekend upcoming for
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  Speaker 3: the Heels. Looking forward to it. A great weekend this
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  Speaker 3: past weekend for sure. Trying to build off that momentum
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  Speaker 3: and see where they can go.
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  Speaker 1: What did you think of the win against Pittsburgh? It
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  Speaker 1: was a gritty one.
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  Speaker 2: It was like that TCU game.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like if they can get in these gritty,
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  Speaker 1: tough games, I think these are games they can win
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  Speaker 1: more of.
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  Speaker 2: What did you think about that performance?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it certainly wasn't the prettiest game in
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  Speaker 3: the world, but I think Carolina certainly enjoyed the final score.
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  Speaker 3: And that's kind of where they are, to your point.
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  Speaker 3: And I think as you look at this schedule, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: outside of Miami, who's coming up in a couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 3: and Miami's in a really, really good team and better
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  Speaker 3: than the Tar Heels this season. Not saying Carolina can't
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  Speaker 3: win that game, but just talent-wise, they're at a different
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  Speaker 3: level at the moment. Every other game, including this weekend
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  Speaker 3: against Duke, you're looking at kind of comparable teams. And
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  Speaker 3: there might be some areas that are a little better,
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  Speaker 3: some areas where the Tar Heels are a little better, whatever,
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  Speaker 3: but pretty comparable teams. And so for Carolina, you're likely
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  Speaker 3: going to be in some of these really tight games.
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  Speaker 3: Or can you be the team that doesn't make the mistake?
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  Speaker 3: Can you be the team that takes advantage when the
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  Speaker 3: other team makes a mistake? Can you be the team
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  Speaker 3: that hits the big player, too, that makes the difference?
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  Speaker 3: And so I felt like Carolina did that really well
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  Speaker 3: this past week. I mean, guys, Pittsburgh really controlled the
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  Speaker 3: first half of that game. They ran 31 more plays
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  Speaker 3: than Carolina did. They had the ball 15 more minutes
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  Speaker 3: than the Tar Heels did just in the first half.
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  Speaker 3: And yet the score was 10 to seven at halftime
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  Speaker 3: because the Tar Heels kind of hung around and done
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  Speaker 3: enough and they were in there and then played much
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  Speaker 3: better in the second half and won the game.
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  Speaker 2: And so and they did it.
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  Speaker 3: With some adversity. You know, they had two defensive starters
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  Speaker 3: that did not play in this game. Two more defensive
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  Speaker 3: starters that got hurt during the game. And so they
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  Speaker 3: were down some important bodies and players as well. And
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  Speaker 3: so I do think that they felt good leaving Pittsburgh
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  Speaker 3: for a lot of reasons. And now you try and
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  Speaker 3: build off that and take another step.
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  Speaker 4: Jones, how impressed have you been with Jordan Shipp from
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  Speaker 4: a performance and leadership standpoint?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, man, it's hard not to be impressed with Jordan Shipp.
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  Speaker 3: He's just an impressive guy from off the field to
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  Speaker 3: on the field to in the classroom to in the community.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, all the stuff. Yeah, Jordan is the type
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  Speaker 3: of player that you want to be one of the
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  Speaker 3: faces of your program. And, yeah, he has really stuck
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  Speaker 3: with Carolina. You know, I mean, he was there. His
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  Speaker 3: first year was Mack Brown's last year of his second tenure.
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  Speaker 3: Then Jordan was here last year during what was a
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  Speaker 3: difficult season for Carolina with a lot of transition. And
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  Speaker 3: he's kind of just taken an elevated role every year
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  Speaker 3: and both on and off the field to now. You know,
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  Speaker 3: he really is one of those guys that that that
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  Speaker 3: leads this program. He's gotten a lot better as a
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  Speaker 3: player as well. I mean, he's gotten faster. He's gotten stronger.
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  Speaker 3: He's just more seasoned. All the things you would expect
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  Speaker 3: as somebody gets older. But he's really attacked that. He
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  Speaker 3: works really hard. And I think you guys may have
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  Speaker 3: seen that video in the locker room after the game where,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Coach Belichick kind of addresses the team and
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  Speaker 3: then they're about to break down and Jordan Shipp busts
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  Speaker 3: in there with a game ball and says, hey, hey,
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  Speaker 3: you know, this first ranked win under coach. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: like we appreciate coach. We appreciate everything you do for
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  Speaker 3: us or whatever it was that he said. And then
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  Speaker 3: everybody kind of jumped around and got excited. And so, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: He is a guy that you love being a part
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  Speaker 3: of your program, and gosh, it's a benefit for Carolina
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  Speaker 3: every day that Jordan Shipp's on the team.
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  Speaker 1: I don't expect you, Jones, to repeat on live radio
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  Speaker 1: the quote of, you've taken a lot of bleep. But
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  Speaker 1: I love that. You can tell they're like, man, that's
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  Speaker 1: our coach. Get off his back.
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  Speaker 2: We won this for you.
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  Speaker 1: You can tell the chemistry and the culture there is
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  Speaker 1: on an uptick. Now, what does that mean in this
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  Speaker 1: game against Duke? Because if they could get back-to-back wins,
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  Speaker 1: a Pitt and a Duke, and get that victory bell,
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  Speaker 1: that would really go a long ways. What do you
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  Speaker 1: think about how these two teams match up?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Duke's had a solid season, 4-1 through five games.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think the Blue Devils have played a super
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  Speaker 3: tough schedule, but they've beaten who's in front of them.
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  Speaker 3: So that's all you can ask, right? And even their
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  Speaker 3: loss last week was a game where they led the
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  Speaker 3: game late. Georgia Tech made a few plays, and then
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  Speaker 3: Duke even had a chance to try and tie it
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  Speaker 3: and just missed the field goal at the end of
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  Speaker 3: the game. So they've either won or been really competitive
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  Speaker 3: every time they've been out there. I'm sure you guys
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  Speaker 3: have talked about Nate Shepard this season leading the nation
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  Speaker 3: in rushing and all-purpose yards. I'm telling you, man, what
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  Speaker 3: a player. You watch him play, and his contact balance,
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  Speaker 3: his ability to break tackles is really, really impressive. And
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  Speaker 3: so for me, that's got to be the focus of
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  Speaker 3: Carolina defensively because Duke's not dumb. They're trying to get
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  Speaker 3: the ball to Shepard in multiple ways, as any team would.
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  Speaker 3: For Carolina, how do you make sure that if you
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  Speaker 3: read the play, if you get a chance to bring
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  Speaker 3: him down, how do you make sure you bring him
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  Speaker 3: down for four yards instead of 40 yards? All the
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  Speaker 3: kind of boring football stuff, the fundamentals, the tackling, the leverage,
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  Speaker 3: the rallying to the football, I think all of that's
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  Speaker 3: going to be really important for the Tar Heels defensively
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  Speaker 3: because Shepard is an elite-level player. And so figuring out
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  Speaker 3: a way to, to minimize him will be important. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So Jones, you're not believing the questionable on the injury report.
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  Speaker 1: You feel like, you feel like rivalry game. He finished
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  Speaker 1: at Georgia.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like you, you, you feel like you're going to see
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  Speaker 2: him on the field, huh?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, well, I would assume so. I mean, I do
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  Speaker 3: what I believe he did shake, you know, bang up
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  Speaker 3: his ankle a little bit. I'm sure there, there is
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  Speaker 3: some question and, but yeah, I, yes, I, I would
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  Speaker 3: expect him on the field if, Yeah, I think that's
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  Speaker 3: probably a fair assumption.
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  Speaker 4: The bell's on the line. Jones, we have talked about Shepard.
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  Speaker 4: I've compared him to Ricky Williams twice on the show already.
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  Speaker 4: Walter Payton, Jim Brown, Barry Sanders. Jones, on the basketball side,
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  Speaker 4: last week's exhibition opener, the debut for Michael Malone, what
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  Speaker 4: were your impressions? What impressed you, Jones? My thought was, man,
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  Speaker 4: there's a lot of sideline energy there with Michael Malone
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  Speaker 4: that I didn't fully notice when he was with Denver.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, obviously watching this game, most of this
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  Speaker 3: game from the Tar Heel perspective was about Michael Malone, right?
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  Speaker 3: Like it was about, you know, how does he manage things?
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  Speaker 3: How does he handle the sideline? You know, just all
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  Speaker 3: these different things. And so I thought it was a
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  Speaker 3: really impressive opener for Carolina against a good team in
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  Speaker 3: USC who was down a couple of players, but Carolina
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  Speaker 3: was down a player, still don't have Cam Finns. in
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  Speaker 3: the post. And so it wasn't perfect on the floor,
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  Speaker 3: but gracious, it was early October. You would not expect
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  Speaker 3: it to be. And so to see what I was
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  Speaker 3: impressed with was how hard Carolina played, was how together
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  Speaker 3: the Tar Heels seemed to be, even with so many
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  Speaker 3: new players. And then that defensive effort in the second half,
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  Speaker 3: because Carolina didn't start that game very well defensively. And
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  Speaker 3: that's been something they've really worked hard on and that
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  Speaker 3: Michael Malone has preached. And so to see that then
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  Speaker 3: come into fruition a little bit in the second half
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  Speaker 3: and really spark that really good half for Carolina was impressive. Now,
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  Speaker 3: you know, did either of these teams handle it like
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  Speaker 3: it was a regular season game? Probably not. You know,
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  Speaker 3: the rotations, the minutes, that kind of stuff I'm sure
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  Speaker 3: was different. But I think that was part of it
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  Speaker 3: for Carolina is.
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  Speaker 2: To see what you had.
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  Speaker 3: And so they'll take another step on that journey on Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: We'll be up in Indianapolis tomorrow. to take on with
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  Speaker 3: the Tar Heels as they take on the Hoosiers in
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  Speaker 3: an exhibition game. But I really enjoyed watching Michael Malone
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  Speaker 3: interact with his staff, with the guys, how he handled
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  Speaker 3: all that. I thought it was really fun to see.
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  Speaker 3: There's no doubt Michael Malone can coach. There's no doubt.
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  Speaker 3: And so I think that's an exciting prospect for Carolina,
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  Speaker 3: not just this year, but moving forward as well.
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  Speaker 1: Jones, I want to commend you and T-Bone in opposite
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  Speaker 1: shades of blue this week.
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  Speaker 2: You two were two.
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  Speaker 1: Total professionals during this interview why do you.
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  Speaker 3: Think that the phone messed up right there at the
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  Speaker 3: beginning guys i was they were really trying to work
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  Speaker 3: hard i was saying i'm not talking to t-bone this
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  Speaker 3: week but eventually they they wore me.
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  Speaker 4: Down no we jones and i get along till february
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  Speaker 4: then things happen.
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  Speaker 1: You guys want to make like a victory bell game
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  Speaker 1: bet like blue bell ice cream like a gallon of
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  Speaker 1: blue bell ice cream or something.
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  Speaker 4: No why are you trying to Why are you trying
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  Speaker 4: to divide friends?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I do what he does, Jones. We're getting along fine.
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  Speaker 2: This is what this guy does.
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  Speaker 3: That's right. That's right. There's always one.
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  Speaker 2: Jones, it could be worse. This guy's rooting for both
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  Speaker 2: teams on Saturday. Yeah, I'm going to be.
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  Speaker 1: Happy for either one of y'all. I want you to
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  Speaker 1: know that right now and for all the fans. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to be happy either way, which Bone resents me for.
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  Speaker 1: They don't come in on Monday and mock whichever team walks.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Jones.
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  Speaker 1: Enjoy calling the rivalry game, man. Thanks for coming on.
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  Speaker 3: Well, assuming the Tar Heels win, I'll talk to you
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  Speaker 3: next week. If not, then I'll talk to you in
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  Speaker 3: a few weeks. Uh-oh.
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  Speaker 2: Then it's going to get personal. Duke doesn't want to.
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  Speaker 3: I might not be here.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Jones, be good, brother.