Latest / Kvetch & Release / 610 CKTB | Schrödinger’s Secession Petition and The Governance of Grievance
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- 0:00Speaker 1: It's Jean Velitis on six ten CKTV, Najagrez News and Talk.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Yes, very true. Our good friend, our storyteller, John Letke
- 0:10Speaker 2: is joining us again this morning. Good morning John, How
- 0:13Speaker 2: are you?
- 0:14Speaker 1: Good morning, Gene. I'm great. I am so prepared for
- 0:17Speaker 1: May one eight weekend right now. I bought myself a
- 0:19Speaker 1: bulletproof vest. I've got cocaine, I've got alcohol. I am
- 0:22Speaker 1: ready with my AI girlfriend. We are geared up.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Somebody's been listening to the show this morning. Oh you
- 0:31Speaker 2: are hysterical. Oh, that's just hysterical. We're going to talk
- 0:37Speaker 2: about what's happening in Alberta. And before I asked you
- 0:40Speaker 2: some questions about this, I just need you to set
- 0:43Speaker 2: the table as it were for people here in Ontario
- 0:47Speaker 2: who haven't been paying a lot of attention to it.
- 0:49Speaker 2: There's been this secession petition, there was a court ruling
- 0:55Speaker 2: the information of some three hundred thousand Albertas Alberta's may
- 0:59Speaker 2: have been lead into the public domain. Set the table,
- 1:03Speaker 2: what's happening out there, and then I'll ask you some questions.
- 1:06Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean listen. The Premier of Alberta, Daniel Smith,
- 1:09Speaker 1: has decided to take a page out of the David Cameron,
- 1:14Speaker 1: former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom's epic fail playbook,
- 1:17Speaker 1: and she wants to use it for herself. He of
- 1:19Speaker 1: course wandered into Brexit, unknowingly as to what would occur,
- 1:25Speaker 1: and she is eyes wide open walking into a secession referendum.
- 1:30Speaker 1: But not only that, she's allowing the referendum to go forward,
- 1:33Speaker 1: but when a court has quashed it down, she's now saying,
- 1:36Speaker 1: I'm going to use the full weight of the government
- 1:37Speaker 1: to appeal it. It's madness, it's lunacy. It's bad for Canada,
- 1:41Speaker 1: it's bad for Alberta, but it's entirely Danielle Smith because
- 1:44Speaker 1: it's good for her brand.
- 1:46Speaker 2: You're calling it the scorched Earth strategy. Why the strong language.
- 1:51Speaker 1: Well, this is a pr shakedown playing in simple gene.
- 1:53Speaker 1: It's not a legal strategy. This is a collection racket
- 1:55Speaker 1: for grievances. She has a base that wants a very
- 1:58Speaker 1: messy divorce of which we'd watch on reality TV, and
- 2:02Speaker 1: they want it from Canada. She's terrified that the hounds
- 2:05Speaker 1: that she released are going to start snapping at her heels.
- 2:08Speaker 1: But when you would weaponize the full weight and the
- 2:10Speaker 1: taxpayer funded Treasury of the province to defend a petition
- 2:13Speaker 1: that was built on a data heist, criminal actions. You've
- 2:17Speaker 1: crossed the line. She's not managing the base gene. She
- 2:20Speaker 1: is literally dousing the fire station in high octane gasoline,
- 2:23Speaker 1: handing out blowtorches to the most radicalized corners of her caucus,
- 2:27Speaker 1: of her base. This is scorched earth, quite literally. It's
- 2:31Speaker 1: a siege on reality itself.
- 2:33Speaker 2: Yeah, now, good listenership. You can read everything on the
- 2:36Speaker 2: Cavetch and Release podcast and website that John runs. Now
- 2:43Speaker 2: I was reading your piece. You described this as a
- 2:47Speaker 2: Schrodinger's petition. What do you mean by that?
- 2:50Speaker 1: Okay, well, you know Schrodinger's cat right, a thought process
- 2:54Speaker 1: It's a quantum mechanics. You take a cat, you put
- 2:57Speaker 1: it in a box, and you have a gas, poison
- 3:00Speaker 1: and pill that can kill the cat. And the the
- 3:04Speaker 1: thought processes is while the cat's in the box, it's
- 3:06Speaker 1: both alive and dead because you don't know what the
- 3:08Speaker 1: outcome is going to be. This with her, it's a
- 3:11Speaker 1: Schrodinger's petition. This is peak administrative democracy. On the one hand,
- 3:15Speaker 1: her government claims to be the party of law and order.
- 3:17Speaker 1: She deserves a new law and order show dun'tu. But
- 3:20Speaker 1: on the other hand, they're acting as the legal defense
- 3:22Speaker 1: fund for a petition propped up by stolen data. She
- 3:25Speaker 1: wants it every which way. I don't know if you
- 3:26Speaker 1: saw the movie last year or the year before, Everything everywhere,
- 3:29Speaker 1: all at once, But Geane, she lacks the charm or
- 3:32Speaker 1: the cool factor to pull off that kind of multi
- 3:34Speaker 1: universe chaos. We're left with a premier who treats treaty rights,
- 3:37Speaker 1: which are the architectural bedrock of her democracy, as a
- 3:40Speaker 1: legal loophole or a nuisance that need to be bypassed.
- 3:44Speaker 1: But you can't claim to respect the crown while you're
- 3:46Speaker 1: trying to melt it down for scrap metal.
- 3:48Speaker 2: Well, the court ruling was centered on the duty to
- 3:50Speaker 2: consult with the First Nations in Alberta now, but she's
- 3:54Speaker 2: framing it as an anti democratic obstacle. I don't get it.
- 4:00Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the total betrayal of the office. Will
- 4:02Speaker 1: stop Gene. These treaties that we have aren't dusty suggestions
- 4:06Speaker 1: or old pieces of paper. These are the literal title
- 4:09Speaker 1: deeds to the land. By framing the judiciary, by framing
- 4:12Speaker 1: the indigenous partners as radicals or as obstacles that need
- 4:16Speaker 1: to be clear out of the way with a bulldozer.
- 4:17Speaker 1: She's doing the laundry for the very extremists. She claims
- 4:21Speaker 1: that she is just stage managing. You don't get to
- 4:23Speaker 1: treat the foundation of our country like a speed bump
- 4:26Speaker 1: just because it's politically inconvenient. This is not just dangerous rhetoric, Gene.
- 4:30Speaker 1: This is a forensic dismantling of the province's legitimacy as
- 4:34Speaker 1: a whole.
- 4:35Speaker 2: Now you know what concerns me. I forget the guy's name,
- 4:38Speaker 2: but there's a lawyer out there who represents the separatist
- 4:42Speaker 2: movement in Alberta, and he's making you know, he's not
- 4:46Speaker 2: hiding the fact that he has been going into the
- 4:48Speaker 2: US and he is meeting with US officials. And you know,
- 4:52Speaker 2: to me, that's called foreign interference in another country.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Huh. You could call it for that. I would say
- 4:59Speaker 1: that some I won't, but some might refer to it
- 5:03Speaker 1: as a seditious actions to try to circumvent our federal
- 5:07Speaker 1: government against the benefits or the overall standing of our
- 5:11Speaker 1: country for the benefit of yourself and for a foreign nation.
- 5:14Speaker 1: But again I wouldn't make that claim because my lawyer
- 5:16Speaker 1: tells me not to go to make such for most
- 5:17Speaker 1: claims on the radio. But listen, this is not a
- 5:20Speaker 1: win in the courtroom, Gene. This win is the grievance.
- 5:25Speaker 1: As long as she's able to just keep this process
- 5:26Speaker 1: on life support, she's able to fundraise.
- 5:29Speaker 2: Ah okay, because legal experts are saying this appeal is
- 5:33Speaker 2: really a long shot at best, dead on arrival.
- 5:37Speaker 1: Yeah, she can keep the outrage machine fueled. She can
- 5:40Speaker 1: campaign against the activist judges or the indigenous vetos to
- 5:43Speaker 1: distract her base from the fact that her policy shop
- 5:46Speaker 1: is effectively bankrupt. She's using the legal system as a
- 5:49Speaker 1: stage for performance that has nothing to do with the
- 5:52Speaker 1: law and everything to do with keeping her throne from
- 5:54Speaker 1: wobbling into decay. This is a theatrical shakedown of the
- 5:58Speaker 1: judicial system, and we're all paying for tickets to the show.
- 6:01Speaker 1: And quite frankly, a judge should just shut this all down. Hm.
- 6:06Speaker 2: Okay, Well, you know I love your style of writing
- 6:08Speaker 2: in your call and again it's on covetch and release
- 6:11Speaker 2: the writing blog. You write that quote Smith, only you
- 6:15Speaker 2: would write this. Smith would rather rule in hell than
- 6:19Speaker 2: serve in heaven. So what's the long term consequences for
- 6:23Speaker 2: the rest of Canada.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the ultimate ego trip. Danielle Smith would
- 6:32Speaker 1: rather rule in hell than serve in heaven. But the problem, Gene,
- 6:38Speaker 1: is that when you light a fire that big just
- 6:40Speaker 1: to keep yourself warm, you don't get to control which
- 6:43Speaker 1: way the wind blows the sparks. The rest of Canada
- 6:47Speaker 1: is being forced to breathe the smoke from the fire
- 6:49Speaker 1: that she lit willingly. It's destabilizing our trade, it's fracturing
- 6:54Speaker 1: our federation. It's telling every other would be aspiring populist
- 6:59Speaker 1: secession that the truth is whatever you can get three
- 7:03Speaker 1: hundred thousand people to sign off on a petition for
- 7:06Speaker 1: even if the signatures were harvested via a criminal data heist.
- 7:11Speaker 1: She's playing a zero sum game. The rest of us
- 7:14Speaker 1: are all footing the bill for the losses. And even
- 7:17Speaker 1: if it goes well, I don't think you and I
- 7:19Speaker 1: are get any shareholder dividends, Gene.
- 7:22Speaker 2: No, you're right, Okay, you put it in perspective. I
- 7:25Speaker 2: get it, and you know it's going to be really,
- 7:27Speaker 2: really interesting. And Daniella Smith is meeting up with the
- 7:31Speaker 2: Prime Minister in about an hour and a half, and
- 7:34Speaker 2: you know, they're announcing some sort of an energy deal,
- 7:37Speaker 2: and I was thinking, Yeah, we're going to finally put
- 7:39Speaker 2: a shovel in the ground, We're going to start selling
- 7:41Speaker 2: our oil to the air. And then I'm watching the
- 7:44Speaker 2: news this morning and I'm doing my homework for the show,
- 7:46Speaker 2: and what do I start hearing carbon pricing, carbon pricing,
- 7:50Speaker 2: And then you know, you probably heard the clip of
- 7:53Speaker 2: a Prime minister word salad. I played unolightness on the news. Yes,
- 7:57Speaker 2: I don't even understand what he's talking about. So my
- 8:01Speaker 2: prediction is no shovel in the ground, no pipeline announcement.
- 8:05Speaker 2: It's just going to be like I said, the mo ou,
- 8:08Speaker 2: the Ei, I O, the Wingo tango wango bangle of
- 8:12Speaker 2: never getting a pipeline developed in Men. We could sure
- 8:14Speaker 2: use the dough right.
- 8:15Speaker 1: Now, the waterwater bing bang. I love it. Yeah, you know, listen,
- 8:19Speaker 1: I just you know, I think that there are built
- 8:21Speaker 1: in poison pills into that that the federal government is
- 8:24Speaker 1: able to come forward and say we want this, it's
- 8:26Speaker 1: going to happen. Look at all the money that we've allocated.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Oh gosh, darn it. If only you know things A preparations, A,
- 8:33Speaker 1: B and C fail. What are we going to do?
- 8:36Speaker 1: But that's why I guess there's always preparation.
- 8:38Speaker 2: H right, yep, let key, great job as usual, and
- 8:43Speaker 2: I just want to wish you a very happy Victoria
- 8:46Speaker 2: May one to eight weekend.
- 8:47Speaker 1: Thank you, Jean. Enjoy your cocaine and alcohol.
- 8:50Speaker 2: No, I know what's best. That was a news story.
- 8:53Speaker 2: You can't say things like that. People are going to
- 8:55Speaker 2: think you're sering.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry, don't go hang out with your AI girlfriend.
- 8:59Speaker 1: Then he thereup, you're gonna get four years in jail
- 9:02Speaker 1: if you do.
- 9:02Speaker 2: You're gonna you're killing me.
- 9:04Speaker 1: Here you Jean, had a great one.
- 9:06Speaker 2: See you later. If that was we were talking, It
- 9:12Speaker 2: was so funny. We were talking about a story of
- 9:15Speaker 2: the news in valais on the news that I had.
- 9:21Speaker 2: That was classic. That was just epic. Only led key. Okay,
- 9:28Speaker 2: let's take one last look of the weather for the
- 9:31Speaker 2: May one eight weekend. Cue the music, Very Gigure's Al