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Mastering Control – How to Command the Game in Altered TCG · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: That's a lock you.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's to lock you only broby and double lonely
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  Speaker 2: rather be six feet lorly if you had a promus.
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  Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to Altered Corner, the newly born stepchild
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  Speaker 3: of Arkins Corner. This is the one the only co
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  Speaker 3: O H L R A B. I and joining me
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  Speaker 3: today are actually only two misfits. Did we want to
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  Speaker 3: talk about what we did with the other people of
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  Speaker 3: the podcast?
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  Speaker 4: Where are we just going to pretend like they all disappeared?
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  Speaker 1: I think like they never existed, all right.
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  Speaker 5: Talking about it's always just us three.
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  Speaker 4: I created other people in my mind.
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  Speaker 3: So to kick off this week, we're going to have
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  Speaker 3: z tell us about the unique of the week.
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  Speaker 5: Already then, so we're pulling one from one of the
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  Speaker 5: Altered Corner collections here. It's gonna be a unique that
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  Speaker 5: Zach and I own. It is a Hue Milan from Bravos.
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  Speaker 5: It's probably the best unique we have out of all
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  Speaker 5: of the I think we have like eighty of them,
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  Speaker 5: So this is our top one at the moment. It's
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  Speaker 5: a Hue Milan costs for from hand and Reserve already said,
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  Speaker 5: it's a Bravost card, its power block is one four four,
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  Speaker 5: so a little dump at the green, but you're releast
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  Speaker 5: getting on par value with the Manecast for the mountains
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  Speaker 5: in the water. Yep. So it's abilities are if you
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  Speaker 5: control one on the landmark, I lose fleeting when that's
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  Speaker 5: from reserve. Almost a lot of the human milans have
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  Speaker 5: something like that coming from reserve, so that you can
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  Speaker 5: keep playing them over and over and over again. Now
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  Speaker 5: here's what makes it the best card we probably own.
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  Speaker 5: Its special effect is when I leave the expedition zone,
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  Speaker 5: put the top card of your deck in your Mana zone.
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  Speaker 5: What do you think of that? Guys, that's a super ramp.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, you playing this with tiny gin as well?
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  Speaker 5: Yep. I have three tiny Gins and this, I think
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  Speaker 5: right now my record and I don't have Martijin in
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  Speaker 5: my core Coja deck anymore. I just have this card
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  Speaker 5: and three tiny Gins and my current record is like,
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  Speaker 5: as far as discrepancy goes is, I had fourteen Manna
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  Speaker 5: when my opponent had eight, so I was having a
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  Speaker 5: good day. So yeah, like the big thing about these
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  Speaker 5: ramping things. I also have it in a deck that
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  Speaker 5: has three helping hands and three Bravos vanguards, so even
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  Speaker 5: if I don't have a landmark to do its own,
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  Speaker 5: like lose fleeting. I have six cards in my deck
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  Speaker 5: that can also make it lose fleeting in case something
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  Speaker 5: happened to my landmarks or I just didn't find them. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I really like this because if you are doing
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  Speaker 3: a ramp deck, you probably have tiny gin And one
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  Speaker 3: of the other things a lot of people run is
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  Speaker 3: the Mana channeling, and I actually don't like that card
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  Speaker 3: because I hate spending the Mana to create Mana and
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  Speaker 3: then you don't have a body, So.
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  Speaker 5: This is nobody on the board. No control is coming
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  Speaker 5: out of that. Yeah. So this is just straight up
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  Speaker 5: and like I said, it's a decent body. It's not
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  Speaker 5: a great you are below that one for one threshold
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  Speaker 5: unless you're fighting in the middle lanes where it's just
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  Speaker 5: mountains or water. Specifically, water is one of the fourt
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  Speaker 5: that is actually irrelevant for Bravos because they don't actually
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  Speaker 5: have a lot of waters that are good to play.
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  Speaker 5: So I really do like like the slot and pretty
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  Speaker 5: much any Bravos deck because like I said, my deck's
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  Speaker 5: not trying to ramp, and the the games where I
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  Speaker 5: get this and starting hand, this is definitely one hundred
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  Speaker 5: of the card I play on turn two or day two.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's just some media value.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really good for Bravos as well, because the
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  Speaker 3: tiny Gin you have to have boosted for it to
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  Speaker 3: become Mana, which is why I love it in Tasia
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  Speaker 3: because you just play it the first time, it gets
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  Speaker 3: a boost and then goes straight to Mana.
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  Speaker 5: But I swear every time I play against Fenn, I
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  Speaker 5: play my tiny Gin and then they put a cappella out.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just like, god, damn.
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  Speaker 4: It.
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  Speaker 5: Just can't Yeah, I mean you can't do anything about
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  Speaker 5: that either, Like you gotta play the card like it's yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever, And whenever someone removals my tiny Gin in Tasia,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, that's fine.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Well that's the cool thing here because like some
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  Speaker 5: people like immediately understand the value and I had like
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  Speaker 5: an enoughness player. I played it from hand and their
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  Speaker 5: response literally the only thing they did that turn was
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  Speaker 5: vanishing Gate, which I still ended up getting because I
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  Speaker 5: had the fire Dog out that turn too, so I
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  Speaker 5: still ended up pushing that turn getting another Manu because
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  Speaker 5: this thing fires no matter what if I play it,
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  Speaker 5: I'm getting another man of Pump period and they turn
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  Speaker 5: skip themselves. So it's like, but even that, like, I
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  Speaker 5: still think they probably did the right thing, because the
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  Speaker 5: games where I play this on my second turn, like
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  Speaker 5: I crush those games. It's like, that's like, that's where
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  Speaker 5: the uniqus, like the A tier Unichs are right, Like,
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  Speaker 5: they're literally game changing cards. And this is probably one
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  Speaker 5: of the first uniques that we've acquired that literally does
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  Speaker 5: change everything that's about to happen just because it exists.
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  Speaker 5: You get in it that you know at any point.
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  Speaker 5: Really the earlier they're better, obviously, though I guess it
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  Speaker 5: is a little sad if you get it super late,
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  Speaker 5: but that can be said about quite a few uniques
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  Speaker 5: as well.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, or just cards in general, but just starts in general.
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  Speaker 5: Late game tiny gen doesn't do shit either, right, Yeah, but.
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  Speaker 3: Like you said, certain uniques kind of changed the game.
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  Speaker 3: I played against Lindaway a couple of days ago, and
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  Speaker 3: when you see a hero like that, you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I got this.
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  Speaker 4: Game in the bag.
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  Speaker 3: But then they had a unique that very like perfectly
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  Speaker 3: supported Lindaway, and I lost that game.
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  Speaker 5: It's like, oh, oh okay, we didn't give it that
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  Speaker 5: much like coverage, But like the the and Jeries event
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  Speaker 5: or whatever it's called. Like, there's the player that had
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  Speaker 5: the three one.
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  Speaker 4: Costs, yeah, jellyfish.
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  Speaker 5: The from hand one cost jellyfish that cycled each other.
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  Speaker 5: All they had to do was find two of the
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  Speaker 5: three and they immediately go into like ten power land
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  Speaker 5: for their ma. So like it's it's just a matter
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  Speaker 5: of you know, getting the right uniques in the right
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  Speaker 5: deck and then finding a way to make them work.
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  Speaker 5: And then, like I said, we only have one out
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  Speaker 5: of three uniqus that are truly like this top level.
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  Speaker 5: But if we if I found two more of these,
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  Speaker 5: like I don't know how that would change the deck,
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  Speaker 5: but I obviously have a lot more mana available to
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  Speaker 5: me to start messing with my curve a little bit,
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  Speaker 5: because I wouldn't need as much like two power or
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  Speaker 5: two man of costs that I have in there right now,
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  Speaker 5: So that would probably make some things playable.
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  Speaker 1: You you said something which is interesting to me about
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  Speaker 1: the you know, the uniques make the deck or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: and I and I think, like that was the whole draw,
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  Speaker 1: like at first, like I know we've talked about this
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  Speaker 1: probably before, but like the whole draw of the cart
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  Speaker 1: of the game itself, like you don't know what somebody like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, okay, you know they're playing Warriors, so they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have X, Y and Z into their and to
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  Speaker 1: their their deck, or you know, they're playing promos for
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  Speaker 1: you know, X Y and Z either deck. But the
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  Speaker 1: uniques are what make the deck the deck, right, Like
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  Speaker 1: it's those special unknown things like that pops up and
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  Speaker 1: it's like, oh okay, I so you're just gonna ramp now,
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  Speaker 1: and like there's there's only so much you can do
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  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 3: So yep, yeah, there there's a growing group of people
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  Speaker 3: that want some competitive level to have uniques banned.
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  Speaker 4: But I I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I I like seeing them, even if it's on the
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  Speaker 3: other side of the board and it gives me an
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  Speaker 3: O shit moment.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's always cool.
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  Speaker 3: I understand when like the jellyfish situation comes out, or
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  Speaker 3: you know those certain robin hoods that have double tax
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  Speaker 3: But I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I like them.
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  Speaker 4: I like uniques.
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  Speaker 5: I like them a lot. Right now. My only complaint
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  Speaker 5: is that I coming from key Ford, which is a
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  Speaker 5: game made on entirely algorithmically, I very very well understand
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  Speaker 5: the nuance of like there's gonna be some dials. There's
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  Speaker 5: gonna be some generation of bad iterations of things. I
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  Speaker 5: think right now that dial needs to be like, I
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  Speaker 5: don't know that. I think the top ends fine. I
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  Speaker 5: think the top end is exactly where it needs to be.
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  Speaker 5: I've seen great uniques in all factions at this point
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  Speaker 5: that drastically help different decks and styles of play. So
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  Speaker 5: I think the top end is right where it needs
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  Speaker 5: to be. However, the bottom end, that shit needs to
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  Speaker 5: be cutting. Like there should not be uniques that are
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  Speaker 5: worse than commons. Like that is one of the driving
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  Speaker 5: force of monetization of this company's game, right Like that
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  Speaker 5: is why a lot of people are gonna keep buying
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  Speaker 5: or not buying right this product. So I think, like
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  Speaker 5: when you open a gold card, you should be getting
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  Speaker 5: something that is basically comparable to a rare as the
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  Speaker 5: base and up to these crazy things that we've been
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  Speaker 5: talking about on the cast. I think think that is
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  Speaker 5: the biggest thing that needs to be tweaked. In my opinion.
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  Speaker 5: Unique wise is that there's always like some degree of like,
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  Speaker 5: oh I got a unique, this is gonna be cool
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  Speaker 5: to some degree because right now, like in Isthmir, that
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  Speaker 5: is not the case. Let's be like, in what way
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  Speaker 5: did they f over this card this time? Is my
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  Speaker 5: general go to. There are still some good ones out there,
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  Speaker 5: of course, but like a lot of his being uniqus
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  Speaker 5: are just real real bad and like as in worse
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  Speaker 5: than their common.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe we should every so often just throw in
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  Speaker 3: a stinker of the week because I have a.
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  Speaker 4: Monadruid that is just really bad.
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  Speaker 5: All right. I think next week we'll have a segment
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  Speaker 5: on like we'll just do that, as our said, what
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  Speaker 5: part of whatever the bigger segments we'll say like who
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  Speaker 5: can bring the worst unique and not tell each other? Well, well,
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  Speaker 5: that'll be our homework assignment. I wouldn't say that's in
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  Speaker 5: you'll find your worst unique that you personally own, and
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  Speaker 5: we can argue to see who's is the worst. Like
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  Speaker 5: let's be cit ber.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys have a lot more chances. But I
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  Speaker 3: don't know that that druids.
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  Speaker 5: It's stopped that. But that proves our point though, it's
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  Speaker 5: actually done hard to find with bad. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, but like that's I know you mentioned Keyfords,
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  Speaker 1: but like that's the same thing with keybords, right, Like
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  Speaker 1: how many decks do you open? And get absolute below
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  Speaker 1: average trash, you know, in hopes that you might open
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  Speaker 1: that one top ninety percent, you know, a tier deck.
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  Speaker 1: And that's kind of the same thing that is doing
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  Speaker 1: with the uniques, right, it's what's going to like you
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  Speaker 1: said not or continue to drive sales.
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  Speaker 5: And yeah, well but this was a little different as in,
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  Speaker 5: like it is supposed like it is. They have pitched
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  Speaker 5: it and sold it to be like a one good
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  Speaker 5: thing to open an like that is the idea behind Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: that was not the idea behind Keyboard. It was supposed
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  Speaker 5: to be you're going to open a deck that is
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  Speaker 5: playable to play the game in a somewhat competitive fashion.
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  Speaker 5: And when you're talking about sealed and all that, that
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  Speaker 5: that for the most part wasn't a lie. There are
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  Speaker 5: some like extraordinarily horrible decks. There're some extraordinarily great decks,
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  Speaker 5: but most decks are very average and Keyboard when it
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  Speaker 5: comes down to it, that just doesn't mean they're competitive
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  Speaker 5: outside of like limited environment. But yeah, that's all I
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  Speaker 5: got for unique of the week, and y'all gave me
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  Speaker 5: as through our discussion, we have a topic for next week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I guess for anyone listening what do you
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  Speaker 3: think should there be events where uniques are banned. We'll
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  Speaker 3: see what the response is. And I get to tell
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  Speaker 3: you now why I suck at altered and I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 3: see I did. I did not take the one that
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  Speaker 3: you suggested. We'll save that for another person that may
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  Speaker 3: or may not exist. But the reason I personally altered.
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  Speaker 4: Is because of not paying attention. And I do this
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  Speaker 4: all the time.
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  Speaker 3: I did it in person at the Weekly on Thursday
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  Speaker 3: and almost lost a game that I definitely had no
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  Speaker 3: business losing because I just wasn't paying attention. And that
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  Speaker 3: comes in a couple different fashions. One of them is
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  Speaker 3: I like to play games while I'm working, So while
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  Speaker 3: I'm waiting for my opponent to make a move or
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  Speaker 3: to manor or something like that, I'll be sending a
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  Speaker 3: couple emails here and there. And if I end up
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  Speaker 3: getting busy or because I'm bouncing back and forth, I
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  Speaker 3: will miss things because I'm not paying full attention. But
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  Speaker 3: one of the biggest things is just not paying attention
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  Speaker 3: to what element I am in. And I have played
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  Speaker 3: cards many a time that did not benefit me for
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  Speaker 3: where I was in the expedition. So if you are
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  Speaker 3: in water and you play a card with no water
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  Speaker 3: or very little water, you're probably not going to win that.
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  Speaker 3: And then not counting. I sometimes just don't want to count.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it wasn't like that blatance today, But I did
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  Speaker 5: make a math error today too. I just I thought
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  Speaker 5: I was in a full block a leane and I
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  Speaker 5: put it ended up moving there, and I was like,
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  Speaker 5: I did not account for getting double pushed here. I
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  Speaker 5: definitely would have played my whole turn differently and it
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  Speaker 5: cost me the game.
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  Speaker 4: That was in person, Yeah, it's very easy when you're
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  Speaker 4: looking at three different stats on your side and three
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  Speaker 4: different stats on their side times two, So.
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  Speaker 3: You're basically paying attention to three different stats four ways
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  Speaker 3: whatever you know that is.
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  Speaker 5: And well then there can be lots of weird things
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  Speaker 5: going on. In my case, the thing I didn't account
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  Speaker 5: for was the landmark on their side, which is it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: so there's just a lot a lot going on.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, when when I am and I think, honestly, this
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  Speaker 3: is why I usually perform better in tournaments than I
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  Speaker 3: do just tracking my games casually, because if I'm playing
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  Speaker 3: a tournament or something, I'm I'm locked in and I'm
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  Speaker 3: paying as much attention as.
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  Speaker 4: I can, uh, and that.
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  Speaker 3: Really takes you to the next level. You can even
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  Speaker 3: you can even go like a step higher than that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, pay attention to where you're moving next, which
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  Speaker 3: is what I tried to do.
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  Speaker 4: When I'm fully paying attention.
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  Speaker 3: I you know, I'm on a water only section here.
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  Speaker 3: But if I put this character to sleep or I
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  Speaker 3: anchor this character, I can see.
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  Speaker 4: The next location if I can just.
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  Speaker 3: Squeeze out getting to it is going to be you know,
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  Speaker 3: a combo of nature and mountain or forest and mountain.
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  Speaker 3: So that that also comes. Another side note of that
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  Speaker 3: is I still have to confirm in the comprehensive rules
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  Speaker 3: for myself. But I trust El Eoh was correct because
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  Speaker 3: he knows the comprehensive roles very well.
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  Speaker 4: I thought, just because I play.
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  Speaker 3: Mostly online mostly BGA Arena added up the stats of
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  Speaker 3: each section entirely. So if you have seven seven seven,
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  Speaker 3: that's you know, twenty one, and that's it. How you
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  Speaker 3: actually win in the arena is by winning two out
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  Speaker 3: of the three elements, well.
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  Speaker 5: Just the most you can actually like win one, tie,
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  Speaker 5: tie and win. Yeah, I've seen.
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  Speaker 4: I just thought this whole time.
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  Speaker 3: It was just just bulk total and that's it.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, I was gonna say from our local
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  Speaker 1: that we played today, that same rule question came up,
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  Speaker 1: and it was the same thing. Like one person thought
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  Speaker 1: one way as far as like, oh, it's total stats
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  Speaker 1: added together, and another person said, no, it's it's per biome,
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  Speaker 1: per per area, right, forest, mountains, water, And if you
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  Speaker 1: win the majority of those or not even the majority,
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  Speaker 1: if you win the most like as he said, then
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  Speaker 1: that's how you declare winner. And if it's tied, then
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  Speaker 1: you go to arena again.
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  Speaker 5: Do it again, yeap.
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  Speaker 3: So if you're in the arena, that's another thing to
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  Speaker 3: pay attention to and make sure you're keeping track of.
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  Speaker 3: And honestly, I really like Altered because there is a
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  Speaker 3: good amount to pay attention to, and there's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of strategy, but there's not too much. Like I also
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  Speaker 3: judge and play Star Wars, and I feel like there's
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  Speaker 3: just too much smuggle bounties, you know, like all this
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  Speaker 3: kind of stuff is just too much.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm sure we'll slowly get more and more.
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  Speaker 3: Un Altered, but I I don't see it getting to
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  Speaker 3: that level of like a magic where Star Wars Unlimited,
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  Speaker 3: where there's just too much.
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  Speaker 5: The biggest things that would change the complexity level is
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  Speaker 5: the actual heroes themselves, and if we're not getting new
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  Speaker 5: heroes for what was it, three four sets, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 5: don't see the complex like the total complexity, because they're
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  Speaker 5: gonna be like in game design space, right, They're going
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  Speaker 5: to be having to be bound by the heroes that
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  Speaker 5: exist in the cardpool to build on what they're already doing.
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  Speaker 5: That kind of thing I kind of already talked about
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  Speaker 5: a little bit, like if they can't expand the complexity
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  Speaker 5: that you're talking about through additional use of permanence, so
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: like that we could see, but they would still have
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: to be like viable enough to fit into the heroes
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: that we have. I think once we get a new
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: batch of heroes, that's you know, people love the design games,
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: love the design games, so like they're going to go
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: more and more extravagant as the game goes on. So
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: I'm sure we'll see that, but I don't think we'll
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: see that for like a year or so, right, Like
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: we have some time.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and there are new things in the new set
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: that have already been revealed, but they're very simple things
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: already to wrap your hand around. Like things being exhausted
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: when they're in the expedition or reserve and then just gear.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: But gear is just another permanent We're used to that.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: So and that's all looks pretty straightforward as far as
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: what they do. I appreciate that a lot of what
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: this game has done. The card text itself, it's very
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: clear with their little parentheses when they add it and
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: stuff like, it's very straightforward, like this is what I'm doing.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: I haven't read a single card where I'm like scratching
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: my head. And like my old game keyboards had like
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: five or six of those cards per set. I'd be like, wait,
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: what happens if this is this and this going on.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: I was just saying, you're like, but there's there's like
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: these cards are like I do this thing or I
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: don't do this thing. That's really all you get.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, an exact question like that came up. I have
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: a group chat with some friends and they asked, like,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: what happens when you smuggle in Star Wars? Does the
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: new card or whatever come in to play exhausted or not?
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: And like, I I judge. I'm not gonna say I'm
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: the best judge because altered is my main love. I
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: didn't know the answer off the top of my head,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: and the two other people in the in there that
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: play the game don't know the answer off the top
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: of their head because none of us play Smuggle Decks.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: But that mulan we talked about earlier, it literally says
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: the exact thing at the end in parentheses as an
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: exhausted or yeah, so it is.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: It is really great, Yeah, very very clear.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: Okay, I think I'm up from my control cards.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, what what are we what are we controlling
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: with cards?
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: Yes, so there's some couple like you know, we have
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: to operationally define what I'm talking about here for a second.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: But last week we talked about draw, so we defined
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: two types of decks. We have a low drawl deck
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: and a hyghdraw deck. Basically, whether you're seeing you know
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: a certain amount of cards, it is not as much
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: or if you have a hero Slash faction that's seeing
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: more cards. So like that, it's going to be very
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: relevant with a lot of the topics moving forward. At
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: the moment, they are worth that many load all decks,
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: but they're still out there in the meta. So I'm
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: going to kind of find what I'm talking about move
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: board in those terms. If you didn't hear last episode,
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: you should probably listen to. It was a good one.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: Lots of lots of lots of cool stuff from all
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: these guys here. Remember it's always been just us three
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: those other people or the other ones. That's just col.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Right. Yeah.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: I have been working on getting into some voiceover work,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: so it is. It has been my practice. The last
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: episode did have some feedback, some comments, so you when
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: you're going into these control cards, you might need to
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: speak better on Moona's behalf or you know.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: I think I promote Moona pretty well, a lot of
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: good things about Muna, especially at the end, like maybe
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: they didn't really like listen to the whole part. I
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: don't know who knows, all right, But anyway, So control cards,
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: so there's a lot of ways to talk about control
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: in every card game, specifically Altered has a bunch of
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: them today, like the whole control set. In my opinion
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: for what's going on with Altered is we're obviously removing
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: stuff from the board, affecting their actual cards in hand,
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: which is very few cards in this game, affecting their permanence,
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: and affecting their reserve sabotage in affecting their actual hand
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: are kind of strange things in this game, and I
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: think they're more on the efficiency side of things. So
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: today I'm not really going to be talking about those.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: I do consider them part of the control suite, but
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: today I'm really going to be talking about cards and
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: control cards, specifically talking about my opponent has stuff on
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: the board right now and I want to remove it.
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: So we're talking about stuff that will take it active
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: character in an expedition out away from that expedition, or
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: an active landmark on the board that is providing its
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: permanent effect right now. So that's what I'm going to
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: be talking about. So the first thing I really want
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: to talk about is like what numbers should be, because
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: like this this block is right now mainly about decks constructing,
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: and when I'm going to make a deck, what number
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: am I looking for? Because I think a lot of
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: people are kind of like gravy decks off the internet
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: and just throwing stuff together. I've done my very best
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: to play lots and lots and lots of different decks
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: across the factions. I know someone was talking about a
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: ret deck last week. I can't do that. I don't
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: see it. I can't do it.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: I an am going to make the Ritt deck for us.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: I am just missing copelias.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: Or power to you. I might send you some if
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: I have them, but I can't. I am getting closer
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: the considering making a Venka deck because of the honestly,
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: it's because of uniques. I think there are actually a
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: lot of really good no Venka uniques out there that says,
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: whenever I roll a die do a thing, there's actually
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: three different iterations of what can happen when you roll
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: the die. And because there are three different versions of
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: that effect at unique, that means there's a lot of
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: unichs being generated for Novenca that are actually pretty good.
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: So I could see a world where if you have
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: three of those uniques, you could pretty easily actually start
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: to make decks that are very impactful because of just
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: how good your uniques are.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well we'll have to talk about it after, but
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: I made a trade for that Athena for a Novenka
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: unique form.
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's lots of good. Yeah. When I say a lot,
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: I mean like it's super hard to find a good
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: Bravos unique that's like very playable. It is this if
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: you're going to Vinca. There's lots of them out there,
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: especially compared to like Fenn. It's really hard to find
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: a good unique for Finn. All right, anyway, completely derailed there,
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: So back to control cards. So I'm looking at stuff
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: like sticky notes, key long burst, off you go. I'm
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: gonna I'm gonna give shout outs to the factions here
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: in a second, but right now I want to talk
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: about when I go to make a deck, how many
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: of these cards do I actually, like, really really want
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: in my deck? And I've got to broke them down
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: in the two categories. And furthermore, like styles of play,
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: which I haven't really talked about as far as like
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: we have not had a whole segment on what that means.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: It's not exactly deck construction, but most people play lots
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: of card games though the general term. So if I
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: have a low draw deck, which was what Bravos, Mona, Siggy,
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: I think that was the main three that are competitive
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: right now, well basically almost all of Muna yeah not
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: just yeah, I just said Muna, And I guess there
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: are some people playing to patch like that. That's a
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: pretty low deck too. That's starting to gain some tracks.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: So if I'm playing a load drawl like aggressive deck,
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to push as fast as I can and
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: as hard as I can and just gain lanes and
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: not play much defense. I only want about six to
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: seven total control cards in my thirty nine. If I'm
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: looking for like some kind of middle of the range
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: deck where like I'm being somewhat aggressive, but I also
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: want to be able to block fairly well, I am
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: looking at eight to nine control cards in my deck,
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: and if I actually really want to go all like
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: control the flow of the game, as if my opponent
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: is playing something, I want to be able to answer
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: it very regularly. On a lower draw deck, I'm looking
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: for ten or more control cards. That kind of deck
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: would be more along the lines of Akesha. Technically, Akesha
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: is a higher all archetype because it is Ismir. But
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: between the three heroes you have in Ismir, Akesha does
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: draw the least of the of the three because they
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: have way more control cards in there, which would be
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: that control mode, although even though still have the draw
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: cards in their deck for the spells. If my deck
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: is a high draw deck, I see a lots of
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: cards i'm playing fed, I'm playing Turbo or WAU, I'm if,
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: I'm if. I like those are the types of decks.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: If I'm going agros and I want to win as
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: fast as I possibly can't, generally this is Turbo, I'm
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: looking for four to five control cards. I don't need
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: to see as many because I'm only trying to answer
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: the things that will like absolutely kill me. The rest
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: of the time, I'm just pushing. And since I'm seeing
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: so many cards, I don't need that many. You can
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: actually drastically reduce the number of those cards that are
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: actually in your deck period, all the way down to
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: four or five. If I'm in a mid range hy
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: draw deck, again, you're just seeing so many cards you
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: don't need as many of them. If you put too
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: many of them, you're gonna end up mannaing a bunch
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: of them. And so I only need six to seven.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: And then on the there aren't that many decks out
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: there that are high draw control decks, but you can
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: actually build warow that way. And Akesha Kesh is weird
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: because it's not really lower hydraw deck. It's like really
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: in the middle ga Kesha kind of just plays this
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: way because it has more than eight control and it
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: can still draw a lot of cards. But you can
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: make Lindy that way too. Lindy can be a high
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: hydraw control deck too, so and I would have eight
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: or more I say it, or more. Go like, if
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: I'm drawing a lot of cards, I don't think I
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: would ever really have more than nine hard control outside
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: of like a Kesha Shenanigans. That would be like Fenn.
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: I guess Fenn is a hydraw deck. You can easily
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: go control of Fenn, but I would still probably stop
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: at nine because you just have a lot of options
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: to control them, because you're gonna see a ton of
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: those cards. What are y'all thoughts on that? As far
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: as what you've seen out there, that's kind of what
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: my dad has been showing. How do y'all feel that's
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: been lined up with what you've seen and played against
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: again Zach's case, because he doesn't plenty offre Yeah.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: Well, you you made the.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Disclaimer at the start that you were focusing on cards
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: that specifically target opponents cards. You did slightly mention the
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Akesha hijinks. I guess people wanted to hear my struggles
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: with that.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: So in your yearsmere list.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: There are actually like three cards missing that are part
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: of the Kesha Control Deck, but they do not fit
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: your qualifier. The ISA the celebration day and then technically
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: the categyar permanent, and I's just.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: I watched the game you sent me where you didn't
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: have that heart of a time, but then you used
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: a small step I did, so I was like, come on,
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: I just watched this whole thing and you used.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: Part of the kid.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean it's they call it the Akesha
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Control Deck, but yeah, yeah, I don't know. It's the
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: worst deck to ever play against it, and I never ever
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: wants like it.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: Every time I beat it, I'm gonna start sending you though.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: You gotta because I still have not seen anyone go
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: up against it and combat it.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Like well and been able to watch it.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: I know that there are a couple that cycled through
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: like a Wall and maybe even Ace, but I I
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: don't get to watch their full game, and I know
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: they don't make it till the end, but yeah they
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: So I also help moderate for a Wall, and so
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: I watch, like how long the games are taking even
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: if they're not winning, Those games take the longest and
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: hold up the turn.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: I will agree with that. There was the first time
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: in Altered I ever cycled my deck like I drew
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: again because I flipped the deck. Was because I played
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: against Nakesha that celebration dad me four times. Yeah, in
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: its game, I was just like, ros, okay, come on,
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: come on now.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I like all of this, the Muna cards,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: cloth cocoon.
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: Is well, I was gonna go through to them. But
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: my question was just basically like, that's the thing about
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: making the deck. And again, I know a lot of
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: people are just like deck scrubbing the internet for like, hey,
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: this person played this and this and this, yeah, and like,
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: but when it comes down when you're making your own,
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: like the general number, like if you're not sure where
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: your draw is at and you're playing like a fairly
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: middle of the you know, you're not that aggressive, not there,
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: Like I think right now that that generic numbers start at.
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: If you're just not sure what your cycle is looking like,
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: it's probably somewhere between six and nine of these these cards,
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: and then you can go up and down from there,
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: depending on whether you after you've played say ten games,
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: you're like I'm drawing too many of these, Like you're
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: like like track whether how often you're managing the cards.
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: I'm about to say, if you feel like you are
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: putting a lot of them into manna mid game, that's
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: a sign that you probably don't need them as much
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: and you maybe want to go down one card. And
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: because that's where I got a lot of these numbers.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: It's trial and error based on types of decks I've
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: been played, because I have played like fifty games on
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: each of the low draw decks. I have played fifty
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: games on each of the hydraw decks to kind of
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: see what the relationship of these cards are. Because like
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: a lot of the the nuance and the values that
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: you can like reach for in decks by like losing
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: or gaining a card or going down to two instead
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: of three and stuff is do I actually need this thing?
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: Because like control cards in themselves sometimes don't help you
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: in lanes because it's not a body, right Like it's there,
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: they're there and to respond. If you don't need to respond,
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: you need to push more often it's taking that slot.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: So on that first act, the only question I would
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: ask is you have for low draw because obviously that's
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: what I played the most of you have.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Agro six to have another Yeah, you have Agro six.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: To seven and mid eight to nine. I think with
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: my Agro or it's ramp deck, I.
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: Have less uh.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: Than six in my moon A deck, So I don't
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: know it's it's.
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: More than that because yeah, like with less than six
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: in a low draw deck like you were, there's going
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: to be a certain time where you you should be
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: getting blown out of the park by other Agri decks
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: that are coming out there that do have more answers
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: than you're, like Kojo's that are coming out fast, dress
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: that are coming out fast, because like, if you don't
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: answer them to get your ramp up, you're just you're
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: just lost before you can even get your big body
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: on the board in your case.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, good point. Now Zach is just gonna say I
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: just play robin Hood.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Right, No, No, actually that I mean I'm looking at
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: the cards that you have that you're gonna mention here
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: in a little bit, and I it is interesting that
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: the different factions have different amount of cards, right, And
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: I think that kind of lends.
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: Itself absolutely different.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it lends us though to that type of
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: play that you expect from those decks or what you'll see.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: It is interesting that you're I mean, even with the
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: low draw cards like slick to steven for an agro deck,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: like there's a very good chance you may never see
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: those cards in repeated games, right, yeah, but I.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: Don't know it.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about our deck for Waru and
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: and things that we've done to change it, and you know,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: ways to adjust it and tweak and stuff, and it
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: is interesting. You know, the level of control cards that
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: we've talked about is has gone up and down depending
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: on how it's playing and what's it seem.
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: So, all right, So I've got some cards that I
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: put that I think are significant to mention that our
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: control cards for each faction, and I did put them
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: in like my rank order of their value. Should I
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: share with them in reverse order or like say this
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: is the best and go down?
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: I think best first.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Because I now that I know that you did that ranking,
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at the artis and I'm like, okay, that
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: makes sense. So as I was reading it, I was like,
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: I didn't know there was a ranking, but it makes
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: total sense.
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: All right, that's one vote for best first, Zach.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: I always like to build up to the climax.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: All right, hype them, hype them up. Go from the
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: bottom to the top.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: All right, all right. So for Axiom, I've got four
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: total control cards on my list at the bottom, mainly
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: because it's the rare slot. It's actually a good card,
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: but it's hard to put in most Axiom decks. I've
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: got sticky notes it's out of faction hints it has
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: to be rare. If it wasn't out of faction, it
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: would be higher ranked, but it's hard to get it
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: in there. I do have common Boom in there. I
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: still use it in the current meta. If something changes
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: rob that I might cycle it out, but I do
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: still have it in there. This doesn't actually remove a
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: card from the board, but it wins lanes. It removes
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: them from expedition, so I've kept it in here. I
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: have rare Hooked as the second best Axiom control card.
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: Technically it could be common Hooked. I just don't like
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: it from personal preference, but basically Hooked is ranked number
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: two Common, then the number one card I have at Axiom.
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: I think it is by far their best control because
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: Kelon Burst is at common, it only costs three and
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: roughly about eighty percent of the game. Kelon will remove
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: everything you need removed, creature and permanent. Wise, the best
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: permanent's in the game cost for or less, so it's
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: just fantastic at Common for Axiom, I really see any
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: decks that I have Axiom that have that don't have
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: three of them in there anyway, So I think most
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: people kind of got that packed correctly as far as
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: where they're going there.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: Rare Hooked does a card draw right.
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: Yes, That's why I said for my personal Repensen, it
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: actually costs two to two instead of one to two,
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: so there is I do understand the logic behind the
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: people that run it at Common because it is still
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: a really good control card. At Common you are saving
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: one man, are there. I just really really love card
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: draw and I understand the argument that Tracy might not
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: need it too. I don't know. It's just one of
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: the most efficient cards in the game is rere hooked,
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: So I just love love that.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, you're getting removed and not removal, but you're
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: getting an interaction and a card draw.
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: I get it. Yeah. My favorite thing I've ever done
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: with the Hooked is I've forced two dragons to be
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: on the same side. It's like, that's fine, I'm already
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: one lane ahead. You can win that lane for the
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: rest of the game. I will play one on one
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: with you over here and beat you anyway. If you
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: play a third Dragon, I'll move it over there too,
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: like let's go fun times Bravos I have coming in
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: at third. I actually have a tie between two cards.
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: I think Twinkle Twinkle and Manna Reaping are both roughly
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: equivalent to value as far as what you get for
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: them in Bravos. Unfortunately, they're out of faction in a
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: in Bravos has a lot of competition at Rare. It's
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: already talked about on that cast about Bravos at the
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: rinked number two spot. I have man Eruption a great
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: card because it goes into common and most Bravos run
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: ramp so they can afford it later and then by
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: quite a bit. I think I have an Intimidation is
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: my number one card for them. It just really really
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: helps you close to the game and beat Seth.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: That's that's not true. I beat you today even though
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: you intimidated. You intimidated my Robin Hood's so many times
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: they were scared. It was like the sheriff who came to.
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: I at least made you pay for like three times.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's no, it's it's that's that's very
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: good cards, and it's the cost of what to for intimidation.
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: And still only three with robin Hood, so still less
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: than what you paid to put them out there.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Hey as long if that's uh, you're moving ahead on man,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you're already winning part of
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: the game.
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: One. Uh for Lera, Lera it is have the most
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: control in the whole game. So Lira has a ton
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: lots of them are really good options too. So from
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: the bottom real quick, I have Lera, I have either
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: sand Man. As far as they're control value, they are equal.
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: Then I have paint Prism. Honestly, it's pretty good card
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: costs three and unfortunately it just sends it back to
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: the top of the deck. So with a delay, not
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: a like remove remove off you go. It's pretty solid.
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: It's most people run three halth Ors, so you have
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: that chance to play it at two. And then if
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: you're one of the players that plays multiple unique lyric
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: cards that also let your return cards in your hand,
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: Off you Go gets a little bit better, but without
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: those I have it at fourth. At third, actually their
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: next three could almost all be well, their next two
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: could be like tied for second. Twinkled Twinkle is an
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: amazing card because it costs two and two from reserve,
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: but from reserve it also can be used to reduce
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: the next a card for one, so it can be
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: used as manna, so it's particularly great in Fen. And
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: then a Cappella's Training is just fantastic. It's a basically
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: an after view effect for the cost of one while
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: killing the backside half of a creature because it gives
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: them fleeting. I think you've already actually said this the
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: guests before. Then their number one card is Cloth Cocoon.
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: Loth Cocoon is the best control card in the game.
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: It indiscriminately kills any landmark or permanent for three manna,
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: doesn't matter what the cost is, and then it can
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: remove any character that is either fleeting, anchored, or asleep,
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: and those things happen all the time, so I think
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: this is the best control spell in the whole game
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: by quite a bit. And Lira has the absurd value
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: of being able to put three of them in their
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: deck at common, so I don't think any lyrit Ex
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: should be run without three of those. That would be
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: like staple number one for all lyrit DECs. Doesn't matter
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: what here you're running, even though you should only run
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: one of those here. Although I don't know, I might
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: eventually try this sinker thing, even though I said ould everyone,
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: which we talked about quite a bit recently Muna at
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: third place, I've got Mana reaping all all decent value there.
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: Second place got common Beauty Sleep, very good cheap control spell,
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: and hey, here's Clothe Raccoon again. So obviously, even though
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: I'm spinning a rare slot on it, I would spend
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: this happily. In any moon A deck I ever made,
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: I would have three of them there. It is well
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: worth the rire slot to have the best control card
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: in the game.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: Yep, every Moona deck I have has it.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Beauty Slip is really one I need to
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: wrap my head around better. It's just really hard because
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: I don't want to use it against Waru like almost ever.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: And it is also hard for me to use it
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: against a lot of bravostecks because of like seasoned you
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: know things, maybe losing fleeting. I think that's a personal
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: sue I just need.
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: To get usediously. For me, I use it as an
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: in game thing if I if I draw it in
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: my starting six or on day two or three, it
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: will be MANA. If I see it anytime after day three,
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: I save it in my hand, looking in the game
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: with it, because you can actually double cast it for
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: four mana. And if so, if I'm going into like
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: a turn where if I double push, I win, I
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: would be looking to actually play Beauty Sleep from hand
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: and then from reserve to lock out my final push
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: based on the anchored people I have on the board already.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a really really good way to look
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: at it. So I'll have to lock that away in there.
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: Because if you consider a late game Beauty Sleep for
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: four mana, I'm sleeping too. If that's what you're trying for,
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: you're planning for that versus it just being But yeah,
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: but the rest of the time in that those first
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: three turns, basically it's just a MANA card for me.
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: I can't hold it knowing I don't have a lot
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: of draw because obviously I'm playing MODA, so I can't
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: afford to just hold on it to the whole game,
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: like like freaking ortists can do that shit. They can
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: draw teamwork training in their six and hold it to
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: turn eight to win the game because they know they're
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: going to just see.
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: A bunch of cards in charge yep, yep, just like
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: ISMIR can hold their small step from turn one because
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: again they're just gonna draw a lot of cards.
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: That's why I should always just assume they have it.
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: They just have small steps. They just start the game
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: with it. Ortis we have ortists, so in their fourth
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: place they also have access to Kelan Burs. I honestly
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: think we would see it a whole lot more if
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: they had to actually think about what rares to put
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: in their deck. Maybe if Robin Hood was in Berka,
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: they would have to make that assessment. So we'll we'll
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: see Sandman is almost always in their decks already because
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: of robin Hood. I am very in if robin Hood
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: were to change. If we see Sandman again, it is
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: a very good control plus body card, so it might
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: have an argument to continue to be in there. But
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure. I think in a world where Robin
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: Hood does say bureaucrat keylon Burst immediately goes up and
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: rink over Sandman. But with the way it is now,
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: I think Sandman's above key lumbers because you actually see it.
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: They have sticky notes, was a comment at Common. That
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: is their only real answer to the hydrosena, so most
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: of them still have it. It also does help them
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: against opposing robinhood, so they have that. And by far
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: their best control card is teamwork training for two. They
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: have tons of twoth in the world. Almost all the time,
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: I've used a teamwork training plane sigy to remove a
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: dragon I had seven characters.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, those are those last two cards are probably the
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: scariest on this whole list to me. They're just they
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: just feel so good. And they have both of them
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: at Common yep.
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well in being able to spend two or
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: three to remove things that are very threatening. Like it's
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: like Pluca ends almost every game with teamwork training, Like
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: that's just what he does. It's just because he can
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: go into a turn kind of like I was talking
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: about with the moona you start with anchored dudes. In
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: his case, he starts with a bunch of sleeping bureaucrats
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: and then that final turn he just teamwork trainings. Whatever
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: you land that's threatening because he can teamwork training anything
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: because he has like eight dudes, so it's pretty sick.
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: Zach knows about team training. Oh, I love it.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's such a good card to keep it
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: like it. It's you're gonna have multiple characters right to
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: be able to power through that. But like especially if
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: you have like a Quettes out and he just you know,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: if you're playing a Trace or a Fen and they're
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: just constantly filling your board with recruits, it's like, yeah,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: just power up my card like that your big your
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: big problem there is gonna go away.
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: So yeah, no, it's just such a good card. The
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: way ismir so kind of like lero, I'm gonna go
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: through this fast recause they have a ton of options.
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: There's actually probably someone in lists here because they just
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: don't see play as much. But at the very bottom,
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: I have Boom. Literally you're never gonna see her play
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: it unless you're running Lindy. Lindy needs a lot of
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: help from uniques. So if you have those uniques, you
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: probably get Boom in your deck. If not, I don't
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: think a Faunas or Akeisha ever run Boom because it
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: has to take a rere slot. They have Dorothy Gale
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: at common. I do see her on occasion. Every time
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: I see her played, I question the value of it.
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: The only time I see it played regularly is Innakesha
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: is a Kesha is just trying to be a bitch
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: the whole time, trying to just just trying to screw you, like,
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: it just feels very annoying to play against the Kesha.
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: I do win most of those games. I know Cole
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: has this whole experience that you rent them, but all
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: the time, well, I don't enjoy those games either. I
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: will agree with you that it is.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: I think I barely mentioned it before. Well I should
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: have known a long long time ago. I went up
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: against Nakesha in a draft, like a sealed draft at
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: gen Con, so before the game was fully released, and
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: even then with just the like cards we had that
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: at Kesha was just.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: Like nope, nope, nope, yeah.
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so yeah, you cause like Akesha basically like even
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: if you take any iteration of them, right, you can
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: fill your deck with basically nine cards that say drawl
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: of some kind and then thirty like whether it's Bobby
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: Yaga or whatever, they'll they'll just be there to get
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: you cards, and then the other thirty cards can be
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: some level of control. And it's just it's really really
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: grindy to play against. I even try to play game
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: with it. I won't play with it either, Like it's
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: I don't like that style of play it is. It's awful,
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: all right, continue with their their control cards. They also
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: have Intimidation, still a great card. You don't see it
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: as much as I think you should. I'm actually not
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: sure why I've considered trying to work it into my
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: funnest deck, because it is a pretty great card. They
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: have banishing gaits most of the time you'll see it
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: at common. There's very few cards in this game that
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: just say destroy anything you see. Banishing gates one of
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: those for four. It'll do that out of faction Beauty
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: Sleep you actually do see quite a bit of for
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: the exact same reason I just said it. In Muna.
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: It also combos super well with the funness because they
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: want super cheap spells. The better uniques in Ismir return
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: spells from your reserve to your hand to give you
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: another cast at one. So it's just a really really
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: good control spell for Ismir. And they are number one
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: spell because they have so many ways to return it
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: to their hand. Is off you go only costs to
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: most of the game. The creatures you're sending to reserve
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: are three or less, and then you can return it
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: to your hand. Due to Shenanigan's then do it again,
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: Flamel does it at common. Almost all the uniques that
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: people are searching for in Ismir do this. Ogre got
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: one this week in our Faction Break and one last
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: week in our Faction Break, so Oger is set to
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: make almost any kind of Ismir deck he wants except
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: for a Kesha.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I think this ranking is really good, especially
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: with Kraken's Wrath being pretty low, because.
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: It seems like it would be amazing. But I just
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: don't think you really see it getting used.
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: I tried to play it actually, but no, it wasn't.
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: I had it. Yeah, I don't skip that. I have
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: it in between doors the yeah, third from the bottom.
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: I tried to make this work a lot because I
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: thought it was gonna be a good answer to Siggy
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: back when Siggy was like super popular, but Siggy kind
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: of died off. Yeah, and then once Siggy died off,
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: I was like, okay, this is it's actually that great.
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: It's no like it has some value versus Kojo who
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: has some value versus brass bugs. But you don't see
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: those much like that, wasn't that great if the token
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: ones that if Siggy gets better, right, then Cracker's rat
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: does get a lot better.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: Well, I've seen a lot of increased popularity in gold Ring, so.
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: Oka that would be a thing that it would be
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: very good versus gold Ring as well. So we'll see.
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: But that's where I have. So those are some control
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: cards look at for Remember, I know my little tables
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: like you go back and list through whatever, but like
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: the control cards, I'm saying six to eight, start with
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: one of those numbers. Play some games. If you feel
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: like you're putting too many in demana, drop one down.
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: If you feel like you're getting your losing because you're
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: not able to answer board stuff but you're still playing
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: your board, fine, add one and kind of go from there.
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: The thing is, I know a lot of us want
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: to have threes and threes of stuff. These are the
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: cards where I think it is highly valuable to look
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: at whether you actually need three unless they're like the
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: best ones in the game. You should always have, if
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: you have access to it, three cloth cocoons in your deck.
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: I don't know how many times I could say that
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: one if you can put it in your deck, you
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: need to put three of them in your deck.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you have this laid out well where it would
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: be beneficial if people could see it. So I will
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: add it to my list to make it pretty a
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: little bit and we can post it on Patreon.
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: Sounds good, it'll be in the Patriot. All right. That
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: is a lot of talkie talking for me. So who
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: you're doing our organization, Cole? Who's next?
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: You are next?
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: To?
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: Do us a quick Google search on the market?
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: What are we?
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: What are we looking at?
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: I do that, but I think you probably skipped someone?
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: What did I?
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, well, Zach, I'll asleep. It seemed like are you.
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: Are you there? Zach? Well, I'm good and uh yeah, I.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: Was literally writing the note I said I was going
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: to so I just guessed.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: So it's so funny because, like I was, my medal
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: line was skipped, the one of the first first or second?
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: Yep, ye, tell us more about artists, all right.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: More metal line talking. That's funny that you actually said,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: did I fall asleep, because we're going to talk today
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: about the Standman and playing him in Ortis, but specifically
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: war Room because again that's what I'm playing. Excuse me, goodness,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: because it still is right now probably one of the
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: top tier decks. So Sandman in so Sandman three two
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: three from hand two from reserve zero three to three
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: for the cost. The big ability with Sandman, as we
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: were talking about with the control cards an artist, is
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: when playing it from hand up to one target can
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: gain a sleep That is really good in the war
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: room decks because it can sleep your bureaucrats for longer,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: including Robin Hood, the dreaded Boogeyman. It can sleep other
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: ones if you just want to keep drawing cards potentially
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: with the Attorney whatever we talked about those ones, or
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: if you want to just continue sleeping whatever. What's what
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: is also interesting about the rare version of the Sandman's
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: is that you may have a character gate to boost
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: after it goes to sleep. So with that it as
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: he kind of mentioned, like it's a control card in
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: the fact that you are well back in ep A. Second,
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: the thing that's really good about the Sandman is that
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: you can use it offensively or defensively. Offensively is pretty clear,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: right like you are sleeping your character more than likely
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: a bureaucrat. If you sleep your own character, you're going
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: to have a game to boost, and so when it
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: does wake up, it's going to be stronger and more
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: powerful than when you put to sleep. Defensively, you can
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: take their care their big bad creature off the board
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: at least for this round, especially at the close out
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: of the games. One of the things that happened today
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: when Zena were playing was I had to decide whether
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: or not which of his creatures sleep. He had a
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: very large boarding sides playing Kojo and calculated out and
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: do the math. In my head, it made sense that
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: I had to sleep this one creature, specifically playing the
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Sandman on the opposite side, and that way it wouldn't
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: lose the Actually, no, I take that back, I'm misremembering.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: There was another match in the Zas and I match.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: I believe that I slept my own character, which allowed
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: me to keep him for the next turn. We went
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: into arena, but the stats on Sandman again three mountains,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: three water were enough to win the hero side expedition,
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: which then again put us into.
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: Arena and.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: It allowed me to draw a card. Yeah, which you know,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: it's it's always good, right like it.
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: So I think the way that I view Sandman is
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: I don't think there is another card in the game
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: where you can get as many benefits to yourself, like stats,
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: putting things to sleep if you'r wau as you can
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: like also.
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: Disrupting the opponent.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: You can technically anchor your opponent's characters.
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: And I have.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: Maybe like one time, done that beneficially to myself, But
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: there's I don't think there's anything else in the game
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: where it, you know, has so many options on both
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: sides of the board.
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know for most of the time, and it's
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: a body like yeah, fact it is like beauty sleep
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: costs one and then three. And I've I've like I
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: just explained scenarios where I spin the four to sleep
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: two things just Sandman, Like, even if you're over a
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: liar and you're using the common one that camp buff
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: for three mana, you're putting a decent stat if it
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: lines up to be forced not forced but mountain and
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: water and sleeping one of their people simultaneously. Like there's
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: very few cards that are that aggressively good late game
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: because it is because late game you need all the things.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: You need everything you can to win a lane to
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: get to arena or win in arena or double bush,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: so you don't go to arena. Like it is by
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: far one of the better in game cards.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: It is we see and like I like it even
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: mid game two, depending on how the board state is going, right,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: like if if things are going well enough, that's very certifically,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't which I am? Which I am? Though, which
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: I am? And it's the topics s and man value
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: in Waru right like it's it's we're not talking about
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: any other ones, but specifically in Waru. If the game
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: state is going well, and I can continue to sleep
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: one of my beer crouds like Robin Hood and get
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: him boost and still have have a three three body
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: on the board, zero three three body on the board,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: absolutely you know what I mean, Like it's.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: Case it gets even bigger, like a Catzel slept for
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: one run boosted becomes five five five huge, plus you're
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: getting extra Trooper, Like it's the value of big game
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: sleeping your Warrow dudes, like the only time Sandman is
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: not great and worrow is early, like very early.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, yep, which I'm not gonna lie a lot
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: of the times I will put that in MANA because
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: I know that I'm not. I don't want to hold
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: that onto a card that long without getting value from
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: it later.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: Even then though, like sometimes WO can't afford to hold
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: if you got early attorney like attorneys quite valu two
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: to four cards, right.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which is I mean we're talking about other metal
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: lines previusly been discussed right with that, But like you know,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: just stand Man itself, like like Cole said, it is
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: it is so swingy, you know, about putting something else
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: asleep or to close out the game, or putting your
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: own guys sleep to continue on with the the taxing,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: the drawing, the sabotaging, whatever it's.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: And I like sand Many way more than Dorothy Gale
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: because like my critique on Dorothy Gale as a control card,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: even though it has a body on it is it
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: costs five ye, like that's a lot. And the stats
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: aren't that different than Sandman, like the if the if
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: the zones line up regionally, Sandman's way better than Dorothy
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: Gale even the push so yeah, and it's weight and
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: it's significantly cheaper.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, now Sandman is how you get three robins on
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: the board?
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is true.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: I will say too, like there are some really really good,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: unique Sandman's that we've seen to where they're not just
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: going doing the sleep ability from hand. They are doing
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: the sleep ability regardless of being played.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: Is Sandman? Yes, right, Garrow on the sleep.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: And you know we've talked about that one before. But
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: like that's another thing, like when Sandman goes to my reserve,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: if I have other cards that I feel like that
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: I need to keep. Granted, a two costs for six
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: stats is pretty good, but it might not be. It
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: might might be the zones that I'm looking for, you know,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: that's all it's given me at that point.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: It's just two for six.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: So sometimes that was one of the ones that gets
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: discarded if I if I need to make that choice.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: So all right, and for marketplace, finally, after talking more
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: about where it is.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: Hey, I had plenty of time to search it this time. Okay,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: so retail product is still holding at that eighty four
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: ninety nine. I still think that's a great price if
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: you're looking to get in the game for what three
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: of these, I think, like what that like, under three
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: hundred dollars, you could actually have a pretty decent starting
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: I could go at it. Plus a starter deck would
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: be right at three hundred, and you'd have a ton
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: of stuff to play pretty well in your local from
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: what I've seen as far as people opening it. So
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: that's a good number still, yep, way more than that
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: back in the day when we had to get into
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: fat but uh, the Kicks starter version when from this
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: number and then it was up to like one sixty
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: something at the bottom, and now it's back down to
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: one fifty one ninety nine. So gamers, who is this?
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: This is Gamers Guild in Arizona. They have three There
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: are three of these available at one ninety nine. This
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: hasn't come out to Tuesday. It's currently Saturday. These are
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: probably gonna be sold out if you come here and
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: then so if these are gone, I think it was
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: back up to the one sixty four ninety nine we
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: talked about last week, So.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: One sixty four is still great though.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: I went to a local store in the past week
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: and they were selling them for two hundred so.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: Well, and then value wise right like I've never seen
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: I've opened what because of the faction breaks that we do.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: I've seen eleven Kickstarter boxes opened, and I've never seen
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: a Kickstarter box open of thirty seven packs that have
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: not getten gotten you around like two twenty to two
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: fifty dollars in value of cards. So these are still
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: fantastic prices, So I'm sure that'll be I'm sure this
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: will be sold out. Hell, I might buy it before.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: This segment is gonna get really interesting because if people
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: listening don't know like the state of Kickstarter boxes, uh,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: they're gonna be gone. Like there's gonna come a time
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: where they are gone. And I'm sure there are people
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: out there sitting on unopened ones that are going to sell.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: It or a very high amount.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: But even just like they they don't exist in like
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: France anymore.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, all of Europe is out of them. If I
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: had if the if these same places had a way
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: to ship them to Europe, they'd be getting near double
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: this amount. Yeah, but it's a night rittership over there.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: But yeah, that's it. That's all I got for the prices.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: They're still looking good, all right.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: Next up we are going to talk about events. I
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: will start with just the not the smaller ones, but
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: the ones we don't have to spend as much time
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: talking about. For local Texas events, I will mainly just
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: say join the discord. You can go to altered Corner
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: dot com for all of the links. I am working
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: on making sure everything is up to date and we're
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: getting the newest information from the stores.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: I actually called a store yesterday to help.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: Them get on the event page because they were having
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: some issues, so I got them connected to Justin who
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: is over the organized play in North America, and he's
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: always very willing to help stores, so.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: You can.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: If you store, you can send him a discord message.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: If you're having a lot of issues with events on
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: the website, other than that, you know probably don't bug him.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: He's a busy.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: Guy and we don't have too much new popping up,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: but if we do, that'll be listed on the website
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: as well.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: For a wall, I did play in it.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: I did better than usual because I took a deck
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: that I actually play instead of just playing something random.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: We had a newcomer, the Blender, take first place on
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: fen and took second on Trace, and I have had
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: the pleasure of getting my ass kicked twice by Yola
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: Kin this week because I lost to them in a
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: Wall and I matched up with them Thursday maybe Friday,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: and they kicked my ass again on traced, so it
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: was super great. Yeah, Pluka has fallen, so a moment
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: of silence for our American hero. I believe he was
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: still can by a Kojo, So he lost to a
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: Kojo and I believe dropped after.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: That, which is not uncommon.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: A lot of people know that they're not gonna get
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: first or second if they lose one game most commonly,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: so they'll.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: Just kind of save their time and drop out since
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: it's a Swiss setup. You guys didn't play in a
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: wall this week, did you?
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 5: No? No, I didn't make it da wall.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: I don't play an a wall just because of timing.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: But yeah, busy family guys, what is that? Having kids?
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: Come on? Yeah, I mean stuff.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: But the big story is we had the ACE Championship
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: and before we get into kind of the big detail else,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: it's going to be the bulk of our main current
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: topic of the week. I just wanted to give a
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: shout out to how did you say it?
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: Again?
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: Because you learned in persons he just creative company. I'm
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: glad we have that sorted. I will definitely never ever
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: say it wrong again for sponsoring season one and providing
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: the prizing, and season two will start in December. But
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: how did you guys feel the championship went?
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: So Initially we I was gonna be in it. I
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: did want to make sure it went off as smooth
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 5: as possible. I've run a lot of these over the
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: years of my previous game, so I did pull out
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: so that I could do all of the backseat side
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 5: of things. We were running it as a seeded e it,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: so that means we weren't going to use g A
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: because first of all, bg currently just not uh like,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 5: let you do best of three anyway. But I think
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: the cding part went fine. There was only one person
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 5: that wasn't fortunate enough to get paired into PLUCA. That
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 5: was like the bt F here, Yeah, that's how seeding works.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 5: This is actually Pluca's awarded your penalty. You know.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: I think I think it went really smoothly for not
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: being organized directly through bg A.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: I think you did a good job. I think the
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: players did a really good job at.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: Being they you know, they surprised me.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it it is a h what is the what
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: is the word? It is very great to do everything
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: through b g A and it makes it kind of effortless.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: But this this went pretty well from the outside looking in.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say from a players to point, because
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: I did play it, it went very smooth. Z handled
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: everything on the front end, getting everybody friended up on
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: BGA to allow for quicker like depending on what the
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: pairings were, because they changed, you know, because of z
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: is dropping on that last day, you know, the pairing up.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: You gave very good detailed instructions about you know, who
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: should be inviting who and all that. My partner invited
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: me and we played our three games. Unfortunately, I did
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: lose the last two very close games to Manisfaction, who
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: then on who went on to get eat my Pluka
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: next round, which would have happened probably to me as well.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it was it went really smooth, a lot
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: of fun.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 5: It was.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: It was a very good time and I think it
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: was well run, well handled, and I I didn't see
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: any issues from a player side standpoint, Yeah, I.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 5: Didn't like I've run a lot of events and normally
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 5: there's like some negative feedback. I didn't get any of
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: that everyone that got in got their prizes, they got
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 5: paired up to their people, no one had an issue
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: getting into their matches, no one showed up late or
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: anything like that, and we saw I wish we had
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: seen more of variety of heroes that showed up, honestly,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 5: but like it is what it is. It's the Waru
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 5: world that we live in. We did have a war
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: ofw make. I'm sure we'll talk about who made what,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 5: but all in all, I think the players were super
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 5: respectful of each other, and honestly, before the tournament, I
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 5: was like, we probably need to just go straight best
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: of one and make this a lot easier. But given
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: how smoothly everything went, I'll probably at some point to
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 5: get community feedback as to whether they want Championship of
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 5: Season two to be best of three or not, because
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: this actually went pretty pretty well.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was very surprised. I told my partner, I
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: was like, I'll probably be done, you know, like ten pm,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: just because we're doing you know, best of three, and
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: I think we finished before nine pm, so it.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they did pretty quick too. Yeah, we had a
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: lot of games like matches go to the third game,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 5: like once you do your your piece on like what
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 5: you're gonna do. I was gonna talk about some of
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 5: the things that I noticed that it is interesting. It's
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 5: actually like kind of does give a bid to keep
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 5: it at best of three. But talk to us about
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 5: what you saw as far as the some of the makeup, y'all,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: y'all noticed, Yeah.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: I have the I have the list in front of me,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: and it was the first one that we had cast
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: on the Altered.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: Corner Twitch account.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: I'd kind of been testing things here and there to
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: kind of get used to it. I I don't know,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: I'm very a kind of a perfectionist where I don't
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: want to just jump in to something like I want
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: to test some things out.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: So my main issue was you don't have very many viewing.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: Options for board game arena, so I kind of played
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: around a lot with different ways to view the games.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: But I feel like we had a really good setup
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: and definitely we'll do it more often.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: It was great.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: I was very happy to see that people viewing were
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: not just demanding like the top like in quotes top tables.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: They were very open to not watching waruvars WARU.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: So the streams.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: Saw a lot of variety, but I did bounce around,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: and of course in the in the end, uh, there
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: was the Waroo mirror. I will real quick because there's
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: only sixteen of them. I'll just go go up the
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: list from last to first as we did the control
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: Ca Guards. So we had Zared on Ren and Orchid.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: We had the Noble One on Waru and Mac. We
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: had Sabron on Fenn e seol On, Sigismar, doom Bringer
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: on Sierra, Dexter on Waru, Belta, Shazzar on Kojo, Aklo
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: on Akesha ogre On traced Maddix on Waru, Evron on Waru, Boston,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: bever on Fen.
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  Speaker 4: There's no way in there.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 5: I know I know him.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, l e Oh.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: Dfw fame eli Oh, subash A a Sylvain, the French
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: Monster on Waru, Uh, the Keelon guy on Waru from Switzerland,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure sure, and Pluka taking first on Warrio.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: So for me, the sad thing is no Tasia in
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: the championship.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 5: But there was no one even brawl on.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a Rin and Orchid, though, what do
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: you guys think?
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: I was surprised that there was only one Kojo because
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 5: it had been gained like I after we did our segment,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: we started to actually see it more in the wild,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: and it had done pretty well in a wall recently.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 5: Having the only Kojo being Belta Shazzar kind of surprised me.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: I was expecting to see two or three of them
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 5: then seemed too like the Honestly, the biggest surprise is
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 5: Wren was here. I don't get it. I know Zared's
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 5: a good player. He's like he was even talking Rent
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 5: up in chat. Obviously it didn't work out for him,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: but he did win one game. That is one more
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 5: game I've seen rin when than ever before.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: You know, I would say, if anyone's going to bring
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: a deck that you don't think you would see, it's Zared.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: We thought Zared was going to play Novenka, like I think.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: Even I don't know if it was Zach or one
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: of the other people that no longer exist, but they
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: were worried about going up against or it was Zared
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: or Elio, because you could say the same thing about
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: Elio is he's not going to play Waru until Robin
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: hood has changed something he's very specifically said. So the
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: subash is is kind of out there as well. But
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: both Zared and Elio play things that not a lot
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: of people play, and they both play them very well.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 5: Z Elio was on Tajia literally the.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it smashed me round one like.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: Handily, so we were all expected that to beat the
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: Taja and that ended up being Subash Yep, which was
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 5: the highest ranked non Waroo player at top four. That's
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 5: the top four slot. Ye did very well, Yep.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: I still think just from the amount of arena games
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: I play, that the meta is shifting.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 5: A little bit.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: There we go again, but not quickly enough. I will
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: say by now we have enough time. It's not quickly enough.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 5: Cool. Trust me. Once you get you know, rigked high
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 5: enough with that, it is.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: I The conspiracy theory I have is that it's not
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: about the rank because I play against like top you know,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: two hundred players like or you know, eighteen hundred, nineteen
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: hundred on EGA, I very very rarely play against someone
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: that's not elite. And on my newest deck, I've played
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: against tu warus out of twenty four.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: So I don't know. Conspiracy theory of some sort where
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: they hide in them? Why do they not.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 5: Part of this is that like, like let's say I
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 5: am Pluca Pluca is grinded three different accounts to first place.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 5: At some point, he has nothing left to do there, right, Yeah.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: He's already proven that the deck works, like multiple times over.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 5: Just waiting for real events in the real world. Right,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 5: it's actually like, you know, make his bones in real life.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 5: At some point, these people that have these ordecks aren't
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 5: playing them. So I do think that is a natural
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 5: progression that will happen, especially since every're all in like
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 5: kind of this limbo land of like what's up because
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 5: nothing news coming out yet.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it is part of that.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: Like people who have played Waru a lot, they've gotten
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: what they want out of it, and now they're switching.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: You could say that out Keelan guy because if you
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: go to a wall this last week, he did not
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: play Waroo.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: He played Subash.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: Unfortunately it put him at seventeenth place, tied with the
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: same record as me. But he did try something new.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and like being like I'm always trying something new,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: Like I could very easily build a Warrow deck and
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 5: just buy Warrow and do whatever, but that does not
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 5: entice me, and I already have my best buddy over
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 5: here to keep me a prize. As far as how
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 5: that world's going, yeah, yeah, it's a great world to be.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of it's a lot of paperwork, but
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean adding Tally's to the wind column.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you if you pull up the a Wall
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: week five breakdown which thirty nine cards dot com, if
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: you need any of the lists or standings, shout out
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: to Tom. I believe Tom or town you know however
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: you say it. There is only one WARU It's Maddox
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: and the top seventeen. There are no other wars, but
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: there are three ciggies.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so I don't know.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: Maybe everyone wanted to do something different.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: There's a rain that was sixth Yeah. Data is bogus.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: Rayfield is another. Ray Feed is another one that does.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: I've seen them on Rain a lot.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 5: Here. Yeah. Uh okay, well.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: So yep, we'll see.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: We we track data, and I one of the things
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: I'll say about, like any conversations we have about decks
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: or meta things like that, we track like all of
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: our game We all put a lot of games in
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: and I think like a lot of us only play arena,
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: so I don't anywhere else. Yeah, if you are listening
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: to certain conversations, I think it is important to know
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: whether that person is coming from playing in arena or
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: regular because I've been doing just non arena to test
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: my rain deck since I don't have the capelias.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: It's a whole different world. I played against like two
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: Tasias in a row.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know that world. All I know is
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 5: what is an arena?
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so everything is in arena all the time and
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: tracked and statted and all sorts of analytical But season
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: two in December, you guys.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 5: Ready, Yeah, December three, we're in kick off season two.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 5: I really loved how this went, so I don't foresee
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 5: a whole lot of changes. We did discuss moving the
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 5: start time to the thirty because when I was talking
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: to people, that sounds like that gives more flexibility for
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 5: people who get off at like on the hour for
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 5: their jobs. So we'll probably start at six thirty given
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: how fast everything's been firing. And honestly, the only other
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 5: discussion I think to change as far as the weekly
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 5: events is I'm still good with putting up foiliers or whatnot.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 5: We'll talk about what prizing looks like for season two.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 5: I will need to talk to you just to see
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 5: if they want to sponsor around two. But yeah, I
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 5: think we're we're going to be good to go on
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 5: the third. And other than everyone that's out there to
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 5: sign up moving to six thirty instead of sixth Central time,
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 5: that's that's the only big teams I know. Yeah, I
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 5: mean before that, people will have opportunities to do some
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 5: of your fun events, right.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: So the first one, of course, which is actually absolutely
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: going to fire this time, is the no Ortis. I'm
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: not sure if it was because the last one was
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: on a Sunday and it was really early, but not
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: many people signed up. This time, it hit the minimum
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: really quickly, so either it being in the normal time
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: slot or the collective amount of time that is passed
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: to have everyone angry at robin Hood. Yeah, Tuesday is
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: going to be no Ortists. I am still kind of judging.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 4: For the week after what to do.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: The problem is is a lot of the other things
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: people want are are very hard to control, like a.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 5: Care for the no ors one because is it still
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 5: public or is it invite? Like I didn't know how you.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I made sure that this one was private
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: just in case, and I will start to share it
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: around just to see if we get up to like
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: at least thirty two. But I wrote in the messages,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: no artists do not play ortists in this on this.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 5: When you invited them, you did that, So I mean
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 5: if you if, I don't know if I'll be able
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: to be in it. But like the common or the
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 5: people's what it was called something in FAB they.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: Call its lead or something.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what it was, like the Poppers Challenge or
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 5: something like that. That was the thing in FAB. People
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 5: did like that. It was its own side of it,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 5: and that was it was a thing like people did
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 5: sign up to playing those people always did enjoy that. Yeah,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 5: it does like level that playing field. Right, It's like, okay, yeah,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 5: common deck and then go for it. The problem is
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 5: like that it's like most of the cards at that point,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 5: right because there aren't that many commons.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you only you have eighteen cards that aren't commons.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 4: But then you don't.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're just putting in really weird stuff. I don't
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: know if that's what people want. Just let us know
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 3: what kind of weird, quirky events you want to see.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: No artists is super easy because I just look and
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: if I see someone playing artists, I just message them
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: and I told everyone I will publicly shame anyone who
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: brings artists.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 5: I do wish we had more to controls. Yeah, BG.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 5: I don't know if that's something that will ever be
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 5: like changed or whatever, but yeah, that it is weird
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 5: having no real control. Yeah, you know inside BGA running.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 5: So if that ever happens, someone's just being a certain
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 5: kind of way, we will handle it as far as
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 5: the prison goes, excluding them. But we have no real
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 5: way to kick anyone. As far as I know, I
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 5: could not figure that out. Yeah I don't.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: I don't think so, but I will. I will shame
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: you if you bring or.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 5: You will quickly find yourself outside of our server.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: But that's a common commons is a little harder because
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: I cannot really.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 5: Active can do it the same way. It's just like
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 5: if you pop in you see their plane and you
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 5: say the same message you would if they're playing. Yeah,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 5: as long as it's all done through that private I
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 5: think we're fine. It's just it would be impossible to
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 5: run those public events because there's no really good way
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 5: to streamline the communication to them. You're just kind of
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 5: hoping they see that message that's that's just there. Yeah,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 5: which we know which thing. We know for a fact
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 5: that we're not always reading in the prior events.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: Yep, I can put up a unique foiler for first place,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: maybe first and second, like I can easily.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 4: Do do the yeah for a second. Yeah, that's no issue.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: If you have ideas for other prizes, especially for the
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: offshoots since they're not like a main event, or you
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: want to provide any prizing, uh, just let us know. Yeah, well,
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: well we'll work on it.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 5: Are there any cards that look like a turkey?
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: Well? What why?
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 5: Thanks Giving week? Giving week? Because I won't probably like
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 5: I'm moving literally moving my house that day house on
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 5: the twenty sixth Ye never ride, yeah house, I'm okay. Right.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: Are you saying we do one where everyone has to
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: put the Turkey card in their deck?
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 5: Well no, no, no, I'm saying that could be if some
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 5: one of us had one of those cards randomly as
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 5: a unique, like we used to do that stuff for
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 5: the other game.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: That data give me a really good random idea of
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: a event where this card has to be included in
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: your deck, and it's like we we did do something
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: weird yeah, so there.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 5: Was literally a card that looks like Santa Claus in
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 5: Key for so we did run like an event in
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 5: December where you had to have that card.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, three three tuesdays though, I'll see what people are
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: feeling on the twenty sixth if people want.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 5: If anyone knows of a card that has something that
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 5: looks like a turkey, let us know. I looking through
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 5: all of our current uniques, I can't.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a bunch of animals side note, but
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at this unique anansi versus the rare. The
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: rare is holding up a sailboat like paper.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: Construction.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, well, if you look at it, it's
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: like there he's doing the cat's cradle.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: Do you like look closely. You can see the strings?
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 5: Oh okay, okay, yeah, yeah.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: And the unique is a cat, but it's not.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: A turkey, and it's it's also golden too. Yeah, you
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: can see the strings even turned golden around him.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 4: That is very, very interesting.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: But that has been a little over an hour and
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: a half ish from us. Is there any other pressing
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: thoughts or matters before we send it off into the
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: ether wrap?
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 5: This one up? Got any closing thoughts there.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just be sure to visit our patreon that patreon
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: dot com forward slash altered corner for future Deconstruction episodes.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: And we will eventually have a Patreon Win a Box
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: event for the I think it was the three dollars
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: tier members or higher.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 5: I think we're planning on having one in December. So
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 5: if you're like one of only twelve people in there
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 5: come December, you have a one in tol shot of
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 5: winning a whole retail box if you're in the US.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 5: If you're in not US, you'll still get it. It'll
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 5: just all be digital because is a small fortune to
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 5: ship to your.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 4: And how do we win the box? And am I
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 4: qualified to do it?
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 5: Are you a Patreon?
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, can I can be?
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 5: Why not? That'd bean based on your current drag record.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 5: I don't think anyone will mind playing against.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 4: Oh so you have to play to get it.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 5: I thought it was like a Oh no, it's a
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 5: it's a win a Box tournament invite, only you have
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 5: to be a three dollars Patreon and then you show
• 1:31:29
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• 1:31:32
  Speaker 5: what we've hosted before. Again, everyone that is in the uh.
• 1:31:37
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• 1:31:41
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• 1:31:44
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• 1:31:50
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• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: maybe some more things coming soon that we had and
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: Luca is immortalized or I guess I can't say forever
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: anymore or a long time.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: As the season one ACE champion, so oh.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: Luca, congrats again, awesome, good night. Small Tests
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