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The Lack Of Us - The Last Of Us - Episode Eight Review "When We Are In Need" · For All Nerds Show

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He's join by Tatiana King aka four Sports and seven years Ago, a Ka
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for Us by the Last of Us aka Elliott nest Ok a The Blacks of
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Us aka Joel please whatever, and we are here to talk. Episode eight
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of The Lack of Us titled when We Are in Need and we are in
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Need and we are lacking in love and sympathy and everything else. And like
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I've said before about this show, I seriously doubt I would even be watching
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this if not for the fact that we are reviewing this show. Because yeah,
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that last which one was It was it Henry right before Henry that made
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me tap out? It wasn't Henry, Okay, I might have been like,
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man, it might have been Episode three made me really want to tap
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out, like I've been done, but it can't be Episode three. That
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was before the Bill and Frank episode. It was yeah, I think so,
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I think that was well. Then it was after Yeah, no,
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no, I was done. After Bill and Frank. I was like,
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okay, that's get you know. I thought already, Okay, I'm a
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vision of it. Yeah, because it was like that was so that was
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so well done, and everything else up until that point had just been very
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well done zombie drama. As I've said before, and as an officionado of
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zombie drama, I'm also kind of burnt out on it, and I haven't
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seen anything new from the last of Us besides that episode, I would say
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pretty much, and even that wasn't very new. It was just, you
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know, well done, very extremely well done. Because you've seen, you
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know, stories of love and an apocalypse before if you've read a lot of
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zombie or watched a lot of zombie dramas, so that's already been done.
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Now this episode eight, I've felt like it's one of the things and I
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know this is straight up from the game. In fact, one of our
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YouTube comment to this last week said they couldn't wait to see this episode because
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they knew that Ellie was going to go Ham. It wasn't yeah, it
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no at all, and there is no Ham the way we want to see
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it in this world. And after seeing it, that was my thing.
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I wanted to tell the person. I'm like, yeah, sure, she
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went Ham, but the fact that she had to go Ham in this you
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know what caused her to go Ham is the real disturbing part of everything.
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The fact that she has to go through these things in this world she lives
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and is the horrible part about it. And like I said, I don't
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really feel the need to watch this type of entertainment that much. The nail
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on the head been. I mean, like the circumstances and the context of
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which she she wasn't going ham. She was fighting for her survival to me,
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and I'm and that's fine, but to me, when when when my
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version and when I when I say a character went in when hand, whatever
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euphemism we want to use, it's because they're being badasses, like because they
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can not because their life depends on it necessarily, and clearly most of the
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time when they you know, when they're doing their limit break is because yeah,
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maybe their life dependent on it. But this was a different type of
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life dependent. It wasn't they was in battle. This was the John Snow
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one against a thousand. This was some fucked up shit. Yeah, And
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like John Snow, as much as he's like I don't want it, you
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know, he still chooses it. Ellie did not choose to be in this
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horrible situation that she finds herself in in this episode. And like you said,
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this is a battle for her life and for everything else, and so
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no, I would not consider this doing ham And this was not something that
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if I had played the game, I would be looking forward to see.
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And this is one of the reasons why. Like when we first started reviewing
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the show, I was playing on playing the game and streaming it because I've
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never played the game, and I was streaming. I've gotten on my PS
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five ready to go, And after the first two episodes, I was like,
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ain't no way I'm playing this game anything like this. Shit like this
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is more than enough. I don't need to live through this twice, Like
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you know, it's this was one of the there's heavy stuff that's been happening
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all throughout the series, but this was particularly heavy. This was something I
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was not prepared for. And I'm curious with this specific stuff in the game
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and not just okay and that happens. I mean, this is not the
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first time this type of story has been done. Like this episode was giving
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me Silent Hill vibes. It was giving me. It was giving me that
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that the whole zombie undead slash the worst, the depravity of humanity type of
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stuff, and this led me all I kept thinking as I was watching was
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this is the ship Ben, I mean was talking about it he does not
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want to see and I felt you and this like but if I didn't,
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if I wasn't feeling you before, I feel you now Ben, im like.
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I was like, holy shit, I don't want to see this,
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like I don't want to just like how and not just like but similarly to
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how I felt about not wanting to see all that shit that happened with Henry
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and Sam, I was like, holy shit, I really don't want to
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see this. What's your favorite line? I'd really like this. I really
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like this to end now. I would like this to be overtop. I
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really would like this to stop. And and I felt I just felt such
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a heavy air of the entire time was weighing me down. It was so
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depraved. And also it wasn't new right, We've seen that, we've seen
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it, We've seen I mean, I also want to do things the way
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we normally do, which is talk about the things we like. But you
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know, from an overall perspective, it was a lot. Yeah, what
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did you like about this episode? Bad? I mean, well, wait,
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I had another point that I wanted to make before we get I was
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trying to keep it here, but what I actually like. But okay,
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I can't remember that point off hop off top right now, so let it
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let's get into oh shit. In my notes I had this episode was dark
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as hell as things. I like, it was just like you would trying
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to come up with something positive to say, Well, it was really dark.
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I mean the damn horse like it was like at I was like,
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ain't no way, they ain't gonna shoot the horse. And then they shot
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the horse. I'm like, Jesus, this is like starting off terrible and
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it's only gonna get worse. Um. I liked this episode, you know,
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for what I said, I thought for the most part, I'll say
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it was well done. Like you said, he gave off that whole feeling
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of dread. You know, I really thought, what's his name James Bartles
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and James David, Yeah, no, David as Scott Shephard as David.
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I thought he was incredible, you know, being like, well's no,
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David's the preacher. Yeah. I don't even know if he was incredible.
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That's different too much. He was creepy as fun Chester the molester. He
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was definitely creepy as fuck. He was a Chester like he played a Chester
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real goddamn good Okay, who gives them? Damn Like, yeah, I
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just oh, I didn't want to see. My skin is crawling, Ben.
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I mean, thinking about this once again, I'm kind of confused by
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how people follow these people in this world. Like he didn't off the vibe
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of someone where like even when David questions him, I mean James questions David,
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and you know, David bucks up on them, and it's like,
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you know, and everybody just goes, yeah, what you're saying. No,
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he didn't say that, But but I mean, you know why it
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happens when you are in at your wits end, when you're in such an
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extreme situation. You just as we see even in non technically extreme situations,
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people get caught up a ship. It was a fucking cult. Yeah,
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my man got God on the side so that it was a cult at the
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end of the day. It's a cold You've seen it happen. You've seen
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it with the the woman Mandalorian, the people the Manlorian. Yeah, but
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I'm talking about in real life, like you've seen it with the people who
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was following the comment who who all killed themselves, you know, like like
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ten years ago. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying,
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because the Colt it's like, oh the comments coming to take us away,
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and people believe in that ship, and then people going into Colton,
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the man having fifty wives and you know stuff that you just like, why
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would you follow this person? It's like because for whatever thing these people are
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lacking or searching for, this person is providing it a false sense of it.
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But this person, this leader, it's false God, if you will,
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it's providing what they've been looking for, what they've been seeking, whether
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it's they feel like they belong, whether they feel they have protection, whether
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they feel they have guidance, fatherhood. As very strangely, this David guy
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tried to make happen like there, I understood. I wouldn't agree personally,
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I understood, yeah, And I know, desperate things will call people to
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do desperate You know that his whole flock was a bunch of scary niggas.
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Remember they said all they did was go from place to place after being run
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out by raiders. Is that they just went from place to place at once.
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At some point stand up, fight, grab grab a fucking stick.
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That's like, you know what I mean? And again I get it.
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It's not everyone's built that way. I get it. Not everyone is wants
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to run off Fedrah. Now everyone wants to do all this stuff, and
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that's cool, but stand up, fight back, fight back, nigga,
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fight back. But anyway, No, that that's not how we were.
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But back to the good thing about like you said, like structurally again,
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and I want to be clear when I when I ain't. I think when
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you say this, when I say, oh, this was heavy and I'm
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depressing it, that doesn't mean it was bad, like from a structule to
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that point, from from writing and in tone all that. Yet it was
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good. It's just that I did not feel good inside watching no, okay,
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And that was the point that I wanted to make earlier, right Um.
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I talked about this before I stopped watching BMF. Even though I'm a
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big fan of all the Power see I mean, yeah, the whole Power
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Universe is fifty calls it bid fans seen everything. But BMF this season just
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dropped a little too much for I was like, this black on black violence
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and just the disturbing depravity of the black on black violence. It was a
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little too much for me. And I was like, I've seen this before,
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and I've seen it done better. In fact, but Montie Jones on
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his Game Theory show Great Watching on HBO YEP, shout out to rod Um.
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He was talking about someone asked them, you know, The Wire or
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Snowfall, and he just looked like, you know, what are you talking
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about? You know, there's the Wire and there's all these other shows.
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And someone recently said Snowfall is the best show on TV a friend of mine,
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and I was like, and not that, you know, Snowfalls had
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his moments, but like Boumani said, he feels like they are a bunch
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of great actors on Snowfall who have to deal with some of the material that
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they are sometimes given. They're not always giving material up to their standards.
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And back to the point of why I don't watch it anymore because I gave
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up on that, and like I watched the first season, about halfway through
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the second season, I gave up on that is because once again I was
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tired of the black on black violence. And I've seen it before on something
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like The Wire where it is done to an exceptional level, and after that
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it's very tough just to watch us some average a good version of it.
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And that's the same thing that I'm feeling about this show is like this stuff
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is like ridiculously dark, and I've seen it done before. Well, this
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might be one of the better versions of it. I've still seen it done
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before. Like, you know, the Walking Dead first season was exceptional,
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The Walking Dead Comma Boat for most of it run was exceptional. So this
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is you know, all the Dawn of the deads down the line, George
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Romero, you know, everything exceptional. So this is just, man,
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can we talk about things? Be there? Like, hold on, let
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me I had things I liked. Okay, yeah, Number one Joe's alive,
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so there's that. Yep, that was great. It's a life Joel.
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The number two Joe calling Ellie baby girl. I felt like that final
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wall came finally tumbling down of him, like not trying to, you know,
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block out his previous life, block out that love and block out the
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or stop, the not just understanding but the really not even just realization,
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the coming to terms with the fact that he loves this girl was a little
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girl like he he has the fatherly energy for her, all this other stuff
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and like that when she ran out and she thought it was just someone like
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she got her wits end. She thought it was just someone else. She
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got to defend herself. She has no more gas left in the tank,
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ye, and for him to embrace her like it's me. I got you,
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Like you know how strong that is, just in general in real life,
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especially in that situation. I got you, baby girl, It's me.
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It's me. It's the one person that you could trust. It's the
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one person you really only trust anyway. It's the one person you dragged across
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how many you know, yards of farmland to get me the safety to try
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to keep me alive because you only trust me. It's the person that you
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were so pissed at where I was being a bitch ass nigga and was afraid
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to take you, you know, to go see the fireflies and try to
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get my brother to do it. But you still stuck with me. You
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know what I'm saying, Like like that's all that stuff came to a head,
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and it's just like I'm here for you. I got you. I
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thought that was beautiful, okay, and then you made me think of some
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more things that I did actually enjoy about this episode. I really enjoyed Ellie
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negotiating and getting the medicine, and you know how she was kept her wits
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about her and everything and got her medicine for Ellie she did for Joel.
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And then I really enjoyed. Even though I've been talking about how I don't
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like violins and all that, you know too much, I do like seeing
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people go ham when they have a choicing. Going ham, and see Joel
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go ham on these clowns was quite great. Especially I really liked the point
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of Joel killing Um. I keep getting the midst of James because Jesus Junior,
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Jesus Junior James, because James plays Joel in the game. Say that
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five times fast. Oh he's a voice actor. Yes, Troy Baker,
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who plays James, plays Joel in the games The Last of Us. So
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this is like the second or third time that someone because gray Beard, my
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man gray Beard, was also another person in the games. You know what,
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It's interesting. I felt that Joel took out Jesus Junior the way Oprah
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and Martell got taken out. It was a very just the way he just
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came down on it again. It just it just it was very opening like
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and it was very brutal, but it was necessary. Yeah, it was
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very much. This is a rap. Yeah, and I agree with you.
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I do, like, like you said, going hand with the purpose
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the brutality of it, because especially one, because I knew what time it
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was. As soon as they showed up on the scene, I'm like,
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Okay, this is a cult. This is a problem. That that that
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Chester is a problem, and all these people is an issue. And once
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like it wasn't even no question. Joel was like nope, y'all gotta go.
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And that's how I've been moving to the beginning this series, you know.
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And again I know I have I trust issues apparently, but I'm like,
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nah, I kill everybody, know what I'm saying, Like ask much
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later. So as to me, this was the one where it's like,
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yeah, no, we can't be giving you chances. It's all right,
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thank you for the information. You're dead now. Yes, especially Joel when
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dude, it's like, why did you do that? And he told her
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the truth and he's like, yeah, I believe him, you know,
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and he all about to kill me, you know, like no, fam,
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but I let y'all go, and y'all go running back to get some
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more help to come back and kill me, Nah, bro, this that
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you know, this is not that game. It's not that game. It's
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not the type of party. And let's be let's be fucking for real.
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What do I set double tat take them out? Get your ops? Man?
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No ops left behind? Word to twenty one, savage no ops left
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behind? Okay, And that's what I'm saying, And that's why I fun
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with that movement from Joe, like that's how you do it, planning to
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see but it ain't no sessing me. Can't let you bitch Nicka stand next
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to me, you know, twenty one, And I mean I cannot stand
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seeing people get tortured though, So that scene was also really tough on me.
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Oh yeah, another another Game of Thrones, remembering yeah, God.
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But at the same time, when the torturing was done and he was just
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putting the hands to me, I mean, the bar to man, so
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I was like, yes, because it was quick. It was like yeah,
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blank blank white, you know what it's over, So my cool.
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Yeah that's what y'all get. Yeah, that's what I liked. And again
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when I said, like, am I seeing an episodes bad? I'm just
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saying like stuff that made me feel any inkling of good inside that shit.
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Um yeah, I think one last thing, just I want to reiterate,
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I thought the ending made me feel great. Like you said, you know,
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that was an incredible ending for her to go through all of that,
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to burst out, have nothing left in the tank. And then there's Joel.
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That was beautiful, you know, and then then walking off uncertain wish
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to happen. I also loved Ellie just telling Joel, you know you here,
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here's the knife, yo. You know, I know you named damn
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near dead. But when they come through, you know what I mean,
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you gotta be old Joel up on that ass, and you know, once
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again my man woke up and put in that work. Joel woke up,
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he stood up, and then he had to do, dude, what he
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had to do nimbly. They killed the goddamn horse. Let's talk about someboding
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like man, you kill the horse. The horse, and then my nigga,
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my nigga said, dragged that shit back because it was gonna chop that
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bitch up and eat it. Oh yeah, yeah, didn't like that.
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Didn't like the cannibalism, y'all. Nigga's head ya I had, I had
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man's hanging upside down with no heads, so telling me you ate the heads
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first? No, no, no the head no no chi Yeah you got
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a story, you know. Okay, it's giving me the fever, like
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I'm like sweating because it was just too much. It was too much all
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see that that part to me, like I don't like, I don't,
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I don't not. Man's what were you supposed to do? Not eat people?
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Yes, there's other ways, Like I'm not saying it was not hard,
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but it wasn't clear clear, wasn't impossible. I mean mad people,
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you know, like plane crashes, like there's that you know story of the
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plane crash where they had to eat each other. You know, it's like,
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shit happens. Be like I think, I think the betrayal of these
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people in this you know, this cult makes it seemed like because it seemed
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like they were probably murdering people to eather. That's what I'm saying, And
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that's what I'm saying. But Ben, and that's what I'm saying, Like,
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Okay, great, great example of giving like you know, people crashing
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the desert, deserted out of there and shit else there nothing's edible. Okay,
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different situation. Yeah, even as fucked up as it is in the
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in the land of the us of A. Niggas is finding it, Niggas
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is figuring out ways, Niggas is hunting, Niggas is fishing, Niggas is
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looting and going through stuff like everyone else wasn't not everyone. But as far
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as I saw up until this point, I didn't hear of any of these
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other niggas eating people. And they was moving in numbers. I'm saying,
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these people seem like bitch as niggas that y'all can't do nothing but running eat
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each other. Like I'm confused. Yeah, I think that's more. I
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think you hit the nail on the head there is that these were some bitch
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answers, because that's the thing. Elie steps out and immediately finds a deer.
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Now, early on, my man was like, yo, you're seeing
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things when he said he saw a deer, but Elie saw. Elie saw
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a deer and a rabbit right away. When two episodes ago, when they
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met up with the Native couple, the Native couples, and granted that was
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a different area, but the Native couple Man's came back with six raps,
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And I'm just saying, like I just don't see it like y'all had again.
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Y'all had guns, y'all had ammo, y'all had everything else, and
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but there was nothing to find that because theydn't learned to grow. I mean,
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granted it was winner once again, but y'all been on the move for
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a minute. Y'all didn't grow nothing like I just I just find it.
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Let's let's take a quick second and look who was in that hall as niggas?
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No, No, is there a certain lack of something that I think
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the lack of us is coming to play again here, because you know I
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only saw it once. There was a lot of whites in that hall.
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I don't know what I mean, I don't know if there was any color
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in there at the Nordic blood. Why the Viking didn't come out and then
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to come do you don't do gonna go fishing or some shit? What the
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fuck are you talking about? What you mean people know how to kill the
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fish? Shouldn't do shit? Why why you gotta have somebody at colors?
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Are you trying to say you need somebody of color to get you? I
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mean this once again, you do know the story of the Pilgrims, right,
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like baby Chances was dying. They were eating each other, they were
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they was dying. So on the programs basically damn yeah, I mean,
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this is the story of some pilgrims. These are some religious people, you
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know, who come into the land, don't not to take care of themselves,
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caught out there in the winter, but they're not. Once again,
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we on us. But no, that's but that I could see that analogy
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if they like, Okay, well maybe technically it's true, like they are
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from all over from where they they say they came from, watching Pittsburg or
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somewhere burg. Right, did they say they come from Pittsburgh, So this
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is a new area they don't know, So technically it's like you're you're graded
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over there. When I was watching it, the dudes when they're Jesus Junior,
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and then when they were walking around with their beards, I was thinking
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of that show. What's that. I don't I've never watched shit, but
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it's like a reality show with all these white dudes with the beards and their
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survivor. No, no, it's it's something where these dudes are supposed to
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be like hillbillies but then they got rich or something. But you know what
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I'm talking about, but the name isn't coming to you either, right,
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like fishing with their hands and shiit No. But to think the real funny
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thing behind it is all these dudes are super rich and they all grew to
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beards and did all that ship for the show, Like none of them looked
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like that before the show, No idea, but that was that's clearly a
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reality show what they do. Yeah, And so that's all I was thinking
23:34
about when I saw these dudes walking, was that these dudes as fraugs,
23:37
like they rot the beards and ship. Now you know, they've been out
23:41
of the with us, so now they're growing the beards out. But these
23:42
dudes just some fucking accountants and the ship from Pittsburgh, like they ain't ready
23:47
for this type of life. And it shows Kathleen's bitch ass was probably a
23:52
librarian and she got that shit together. So I don't I'm saying I don't.
23:56
I don't know. It's just no excuse to me. They're asking them
24:00
back up, there are reasons right for eating people? And is that the
24:03
other I just feel like with so many other groups doing so many different ways
24:07
to find food and again, as far as my knowledge of this show,
24:14
I haven't seen no one else do this shit, which means to me,
24:17
there's other ways. There's like it's not complete barren wasteland, So for them
24:21
to resort to that, I'm just like, did y'all really try all avenues?
24:25
Or is this just you just figured this was the way. The name
24:27
of the show was Duck Dynasty. Yeah, and these are probably the Dick
24:33
Dynasty over here, because yeah, and I mean somebody helped me out.
24:38
Somebody who's listening put into comments like am I missing something like I just no,
24:44
No, I think we hit I think we just figured it all all
24:47
right there. Once again, these are some bitch asses. They wasn't ready
24:49
for this type of life, so they get there and then they start murdering
24:52
each other and eating each other for that either. But I'm not I just
24:59
I'm man it. I don't know, I don't know, but I just
25:03
well, once again, the lack of us, you know, like look
25:06
look, you know, look, look the pilgrims putter manned up. They
25:10
could have done what they did, but they started eating each other until the
25:12
natives came through, you know, Indigenous people came through and helped them some
25:18
corn they were stupid asses, like come on, fan, like they were
25:22
sitting up in that um Ford eating each other. Googlely they were eating each
25:26
other too. This is not you know, the vegetation like got this thinking.
25:32
No they ain't thinking. Yeah, not thinking. But um okay,
25:34
stuff. We didn't like continue all right, Um I did not like.
25:40
I mean, obviously we did not like the whole you know dude, Chester,
25:45
Yeah, Chester, mo Leicester, you know, going at Ellie.
25:48
I didn't like that, and I really was hoping it wasn't gonna go there,
25:51
and then it did. I'm like, yeah, and then that's when
25:53
it I get it once again. I'm probably gonna hear it in the comments.
25:56
This is from the game and Live. But he's just like, y'all
26:00
keep telling me that this game has the greatest riding of all time and what
26:03
turned this man into a complete buffoon, you know, in the last moments
26:07
of his life. Because that's where I'm just like this, dude, Okay,
26:11
as soon as the fire starts, fuck this girl, I'm closing the
26:15
door on the bitch and I'm burning that hole up in there. I win.
26:19
He looked at the fire and said, I got mosque, like what
26:25
like like who writes this, I'm sorry, no, like I don't like
26:30
and okay, his fingers broke, he's you know, he's angry. What
26:33
your man's just got murdered by Shorty? She is obviously about that life fam
26:38
like, I don't you know what is driving him at that point to be
26:42
like let me you know, Moleste, as the fire is falling on top
26:48
of me. This reminds me of another dickhead. Kathleen, you are surrounded
26:53
by twenty eight seconds later and you must get your revenge? Are you dead
27:00
ass right now? You damn it? Twice in one show we have like
27:03
complete idiot boss figures like what is this? Like I'm sorry, y'all,
27:08
I'm sorry, but that it was like, okay, not only is this
27:11
dark, then it just drop dumb and cartoonist to me. You know,
27:15
it was like Jesus, come on fan for real. Like I said,
27:18
as soon as I see the fire, hah, Shorty wap locked the door.
27:22
Stand out there, told some marshmallows, watch your bitch ass that burned
27:26
out. Call the crew, you know, call the family in let's watch
27:30
this who you know? Nope, no, like, what what was your
27:36
plan? I mean? Not only that your hanging food is in there.
27:40
Dog, you're not thinking, like Ben, call him DCU because there was
27:44
no plan just wow wow waiting for a flash point right to come save everything?
27:52
Du coming? But uh bro, Like, let's just that. That's
27:57
what I'm saying. People cute, don't leave. This game is like the
28:00
greatest writing ever And I'm like, man, there's still Spider Man got award.
28:06
Also, one of this game is ten plush years old now, right,
28:07
and my thing is your body. I probably think it's still Again,
28:14
it's different when you're playing. It could have been fifty years ago and it
28:17
still had been a cartoon. You know, well, Ben, also you
28:22
as you we talked about it before. The different mediums hit differently. It
28:26
probably especially when you're fully immersed in the game, making the decisions, doing
28:30
the physicality of whatever button press you gotta do or joystick moves. Like,
28:34
it's different. It feels different. So I'm not gonna say that like that
28:37
that shit makes me gonna throw up. Imagine that this is in the game,
28:41
like you have to fight off a rapist, like I swear. People
28:48
are like it's like once again, I just like, I just it's like,
28:53
why would you And you was he was already giving me those fives from
28:56
jump. But then for you, as you said that in that situation specifically,
29:00
like okay, I've never understood that, you know, that is something
29:03
like that I'm not built for. You know, that is just not in
29:07
my hardware or hardwire or anything. Right, But sometimes just never understood because
29:11
I can't even like if it's cold outside, I ain't you know, I
29:17
ain't trying to get no, you know, and somebody's like, yo,
29:18
let's go smash. I'm like, man, it's cold out here, you
29:21
know, like this man trying to smash in fire, like I don't care.
29:23
I short, He's like, yo, let's right here in this fire.
29:26
I'm out dog, you know, Like no, no, ma,
29:30
we're going outside and smashing in the snow. You know what I mean.
29:33
Like I'm saying, I'm saying, if you know, if it was like
29:36
a willing participant in this situation, even then why is Yeah, so it
29:42
wasn't a willing participant. This woman was a child. It was a child
29:47
child. It was a child that you wanted to see dead or okay,
29:55
you want it for yourself what you thought, y'all? You at leastie now
30:00
nigga, you're gonna surviti fire, like like if that's thing. It wasn't
30:07
like he was talking that God shit, you know like that, like if
30:11
you know, if he'd like, you know, been like shoot me David,
30:14
you know, or something like James or whatever, you know, shoot
30:17
me James. You know, I've got God on my side. I didn't
30:18
know. If he'd done that earlier, I'd be like, well, yeah,
30:21
he's the type of idiot who thinks the fire won't burden and I got
30:23
God an man, you w as I'm thinking about it, and I said
30:30
it as a joke from this meme, this old video meme, but he
30:34
reminded me of like one of the worst anime characters, like anime villains,
30:37
where like they do shit like that, like yeah they do do wash.
30:41
I don't. It's like die and they're like this is fine, this is
30:48
fine, like confusing. I just was wondering. I would say, am
30:55
I the only one? Just like I said, this episode, you know,
30:57
well done, well constructed, where I'm like, oh this is tense,
31:00
oh shit, you know, even though like I say, the problem
31:03
with this show is because I know Ellie is definitely not you know, but
31:07
no, once again, I don't know what could happen to Ellie. I
31:10
know she's done to survive, so I don't know what terrible should ha gonna
31:12
happened to her before? You know, so you know, this is driving
31:15
up. I'm like, oh fuck, you know what's happening here? And
31:18
then like even you know, Ellie finally killing the dude was like, oh
31:22
my god, this is draffic. And then you know, her going outside
31:26
was like, oh this is great, but there's that two three minutes from
31:29
I'm just like, what the fuck am I watching right now? Why is
31:32
this happening right right? I would like this to stop. As soon as
31:38
the fire started, I was like, okay, he's the right outside.
31:41
Shut the throw one shorty, you know. And then Joe gonna come up
31:45
kill him, busting save Ellie. Yeah. One interesting thing that this episode
31:48
brought up that other stuff aside, like when she was trying to basically get
31:55
her way out of there by like you know, fucking with his head,
31:56
she like she did him, and she was like, well, now you're
31:59
infect right now, let's take that a step further. In reality though,
32:05
if she does hurt or buy somebody or do that, would she and I
32:08
guess not no, no, But would she infect somebody No no, no,
32:14
no, because she's not an active infection. She has the antidot essentially
32:17
in her flood or something. Yeah, it was a nice straw though.
32:22
That was definitely you know, swift like, so she was very smart this
32:25
episode, even how she took out James Ward. I had to give it
32:29
to her on that one because but your knife to work, like, yeah,
32:32
one hit. Even when she hit her quitter once she was doing that
32:37
right before the end, when she was running from David and she grabbed the
32:39
fucking stick. I yelled out, good girl, Like she grabbed the fire
32:43
stick. I said, yes, don't that Nigga said, like yeah,
32:45
I was like, man, watch she threw it. But I get it
32:46
because she need to range. She knows to get distance, that's all.
32:51
Yeah. And then I mean I would have grabbed like two or three of
32:53
them set that. I would have been set the whole thing off fire.
32:58
But I would have been thrown at that shit like fucking axe throwing at that.
33:00
Nigga, Like, I would have went in on that. But you
33:04
know, you do what you like. She did what she could in the
33:07
situation. She was saying she was fucking terrified and understand. And that's the
33:09
first time. I think that's the first, which is interesting again the word
33:14
interesting, he's coming up because a lot of terrifying shit has happened to Ellie,
33:17
like truly terrifying shit, the ship in the museum, right, right,
33:23
But I mean this was a different level of terrifying. And yeah,
33:27
keep speaks to me. It keeps speaking to me, back to what you
33:30
kept saying about not wanting to see the worst humanity and all this other stuff,
33:32
like, yes, Ben, all this show has thown me is humanity's
33:37
worse than these fucking infected Yes, easily and that and that's why I'm saying
33:40
that is like the obvious thing. You know, that's like the Walking Dead.
33:44
You know, the big thing about the Walking Dead is at one point
33:46
Rich says, we are the walking Dead. It's not the zombies, it's
33:50
the people. And it's like, whoa wow. Yeah it was the first
33:53
time I read it. But now when you see that, you know that's
33:57
also been pounded into my head by the George Romero, you know, by
34:00
every zombie story ever. That's always the thing, Like I talked about Darna
34:05
the Dead, the one where it takes place in the mall where for most
34:07
of the movie the people have control the zombies. They're just chilling and living
34:10
in the mall, and then like three quarters of the way in the movie,
34:15
these fucking raiders come through and just start rubbing everybody out. And the
34:19
first time I saw it, it just recked me because I'm just like,
34:22
and it's a pretty cartoonish scene. These dudes come in like mad Max and
34:25
shit, but it's still just ruined me because it was like, damn man,
34:30
like it always is other fucking people. And that's the thing about the
34:35
scene, and that's why Ellie is truly terrified, because death is one thing,
34:37
but this is a fate worse than death, you know what I mean.
34:40
And this is something Ellie's used to dealing with death. Okay, these
34:44
clickers come through, They're gonna eat me. I die. I've seen that
34:46
happened to many a person before, but something like this, you know,
34:52
it's on another level. And it's just one of the especially with children,
34:55
anything involving violence or the salt or anything negative to children or young people like
35:04
that is particularly something that I do not fuck with. Yeah, I do
35:09
not, no, um. So that's why it just hit me so bad
35:15
and and generally I just shouldn't have watched this before bed. This was the
35:17
last thing I watched. I watched a lot of things because you know,
35:21
we were revealing a lot of different things right now, and I watched this
35:23
right before bed, and I said, and I did not know again,
35:27
rookie mistake, and I should know better, But you know, I was
35:30
just I just did not think this episode was gonna be like that. I
35:34
did not, And I was like, are you badass? And this is
35:37
what the last thing in my this is the last vision in my head.
35:39
And even with that warm thank god, the warmth a little bit of dwindling
35:46
warmth at the end with Joe, I still was covered in cold. Like
35:51
I was just like, this is the most horrible feeling. Yeah, I
35:54
watched it early in the morning, so it pretty much set the tone for
35:59
my days. Keep mistake. It doesn't matter when you watch this ship because
36:04
no matter when you watch it, don't defect you. That's why I,
36:06
like I said, I turned off BMF this season. I'm never going back
36:09
to it. I never went back to Snowfall. After Saint killed his homie
36:15
in the park. I was done after that. I'm like, I'm good,
36:17
you know, I'm sure. You know, these actors are exceptional,
36:21
et cetera. I'll see them at something else. Yeah, I'm just like
36:24
I've seen it before, and oh man, hopefully we can get somebody else
36:30
to host this for season two of Lack of Us because I'm like, you
36:35
know, I got one more episode, and we got one more episode.
36:39
I'm glad this ship don't come back for at least a year, maybe two,
36:43
God willing, please don't come back, Like I know you're coming back
36:47
already, but but take your time. Yeah, take your time. This
36:52
is not like you know, what's you know, Castle Black, House of
36:57
Dragon. I'm like, please come back. You know, I can't.
37:00
I gotta wait two years for you because I get it this this kid,
37:02
it's gonna be hard times and easy times. It's gonna be good times and
37:06
bad times, and it's just like, damn, this is a lot of
37:08
bad. Yeah. And I think that's the thing with House of Dragon,
37:12
where it's like even I mean Game of Throne to some of its worst.
37:15
You know, we talked about this Castle Black. I you know, I
37:17
fast forward through the whole Torture season the second time I watched it for Castle
37:22
Black because I could not watch My Man the Torture season, not just it
37:25
was a whole season season and that's what killed me when I rewatched it.
37:29
That whole season is spent torturing dude, and that shit is just like wow,
37:36
like I get it, but I don't, you know, And that's
37:38
just not the type of entertainment that I need in my life. Yeah,
37:43
but I don't watch them like ted Lasso now, you know, like Abbend
37:46
Elementary, like watching ABD Elementary. Yeah, like man last week was good
37:52
too, and it's just like I don't, I don't know, man,
37:55
this type of stuff and people like you know, this the trauma and I'm
38:00
just like, yeah, but I don't need it, And there's ways to
38:04
do this without doing that, you know, there's ways to have Like I
38:07
say to me, the best I still have never played this game, but
38:09
the best writing in video games for me is God a War and PlayStation five
38:15
four Spider Man PS four Spider Man, Like, those are the two games,
38:17
the first two games that I ever played that had me in tears and
38:22
multiple points where I'm playing them, and neither of them involved you know,
38:28
the assault on a child. Well, god Award does. So yeah,
38:32
there's that. Yah, Yeah, well, you know it's it's just I
38:37
don't know. It's a different it's different, it's different, it's very different.
38:42
Any predictions you have for the last episode, episode nine, I don't
38:46
think Joel making it. Something's telling me and I put I put it my
38:52
point, this is going to end badly, huh Like finally the love is
38:58
reciprocated, and it's just like, all right, this is probably gonna be
39:00
the end for him, huh Like I know that Joel, I don't know
39:06
if he's dead, but I know he ain't in all of part two.
39:09
I think he mates it to Part two at least in the game, you
39:14
know, as far as I know happens. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
39:16
In the game, I know, and I noticed, and I also
39:19
know coming up, Joel mates a big choice that you know, mad people
39:22
play the game, you know, disagree with completely and it made people pissed
39:27
off. And I guess that's about to happen in episode nine. So I
39:30
guess we're coming to that choice. And you know Less saying I can't take
39:37
you further anymore, go with my brother. Yeah, I was just as
39:40
mad as Elly I said, are you dead ass? Right now? I
39:44
see you, and I know we are going to see his brother again.
39:47
We're gonna see that whole area again back um in part two. Yeah,
39:52
Jackson Holle plays a bigger part in Part two. We've even seen you know
39:55
a character who plays a huge part in Part two in the background of Jackson
40:00
Hole, right, we saw her in that episode, right, Yeah,
40:05
speaking of Jackson Hole, just just kind of a technical detour. Someone confirmed
40:10
a few weeks ago. They were like, remember how we were like,
40:13
oh, we thought he was tripping. We thought they was building the gallows,
40:15
and we was like, no, we just saw a lot of bast
40:17
Someone confers like, no, they were building gallows. Yeah, And so
40:21
I think I think that is from part two in the game, when they
40:23
do go back there and the person that we do see is the woman,
40:29
I mean, the young girl who Ellie yelled at, who was standing off
40:31
in the background and Elie, where are you looking at it over there?
40:35
Right? And I think that girl becomes Ellie's love interest in Part two,
40:38
or one of Ellie's love interests in part yeah, because I know that Part
40:44
two revolves around Ellie and her major love interest you know, after because she's
40:51
going to be like at least mid the late teens at that point. Yeah,
40:54
but she's already mid teens. Think, yeah, I think we shipped
40:58
forward a few years or something. You know, I'm not a hundred,
41:00
but she's aging already, you know, because like this first season took place
41:05
over like at least six seven months now, right, Yeah, yeah,
41:09
had like a three month jump, and then they were already together, you
41:13
know, and then every time you see them, times passed and she's fifteen,
41:16
right, I thought she's used fifteen, I think so, Yeah,
41:20
I think so. Yeah, so sixteen seventeen, yeah, you know time
41:23
for that. She's not seventeen year but you probably Yeah, that's when she
41:27
will be teenage love don't hurt me. Yeah, but thanks your offers for
41:31
confirming our worst fears. They were in fact really hell so the rolls up
41:38
in time, it's like, oh whoa right, like it's not yeah,
41:46
you know, they don't don't look over there, guys, you know.
41:49
Yeah, it was very Wizard of Out. It's like, oh, don't
41:51
be behind the curtains up, And I guess that explains why they didn't need
41:54
a jail, right. Um. I another more soul. Comment Terry about
42:05
the future, I said, doesn't feel like each episode since Henry has gotten
42:08
progressively worse. And when I say worse, I just don't mean. I
42:12
don't again, not structurally, not as a show. I'm seeing in terms
42:15
of how it makes us feel terrible about life, about humanity and just darkness.
42:21
Yes, And once again, like I say, I don't, I
42:25
don't know, man, I feel like the people who need this type of
42:29
stuff in their life have not had enough darkness and drama in their life.
42:32
Because me is someone who's had a lot of darkness and drama in his life.
42:37
That's what I mean where I'm like, after while, I'm like,
42:39
I don't really need this type of stuff. That's why I love things like
42:43
ted Lasts, And that's why I love things like even you know, because
42:46
I know you brought them up before. I mean, we always thought about
42:49
this. How you don't like the boy stout version of Superman. Yeah,
42:52
but to me, like all Stars Superman, which is nothing but the ultimate
42:58
boy Stout, the ultimate everything will work out. I will save the world
43:01
no matter what, and the ultimate you know, you're all greater than I
43:07
am. You know, the Superman loves humanity more than he loves himself,
43:12
like Jesus does you know where it's like you can all be greater than I,
43:15
in which a lot of people miss, you know, in Christianity is
43:17
that's what Jesus tells all his followers. It's that all of y'all will be
43:22
greater than me. You know, people miss that part. So I think
43:27
that's the thing that you know, that's what I love. And it's also
43:30
something that me and Mellow Mellow Brown we talk about this a lot. It's
43:32
the hard It's one of the hardest things to write, is a hopeful character,
43:37
you know, And that's why I love Captain America and how they managed
43:40
to do that in those films and the MCU where Steve Rogers is the super
43:45
earnest character. And it's also what happens in everything everywhere all at once.
43:51
You know, it's like the lead is just super earnest, just be kind
43:54
in the face of everything. Yeah, but see the thing, like you
43:58
using Captain American example of that, I see the i've because of the way
44:01
he was written and the way he's acted. Let's be let's be even real.
44:07
I see the genuineness in it, like it doesn't come off as cheesy
44:09
or corny, which is why, like I've always said, I famously don't
44:13
like boy Scout versions froman but because I've always felt propaganda behind it for at
44:19
least this MCU type stuff. Like I when it come to Captain America,
44:22
like I just felt like, yeah, he really believes that ship. And
44:25
not only that, he wasn't just talking to talk. He was still fucking
44:28
shit up too, you know what I'm saying. It's like when you're like,
44:30
oh, let's komb bay yah and I'm not gonna hear the flight,
44:32
I'm like, nah, let's be fucking for real. Violence is the answer
44:36
sometimes and believe it or not, but like Captain America believes violence too,
44:40
you understand, Like he makes shit happen when it needs to happen, and
44:43
at the same time he's about hoping all this other stuff and to that greater
44:46
point of wanting to see characters and stories that so hope and and and positivity
44:54
into you versus everything is terrible everything. And that's the problem. Because I
45:02
see this. A lot of people have brought it up on our comments.
45:05
When I made these comments in the first few episodes, when I kept talking
45:07
about how if you look at the numbers in any tragedy, in any great
45:13
you know, natural disaster, etc. Whatever, terrorist attack, whatever you
45:19
want to call it, people come together more than they fall apart. You
45:22
know, people will help each other far more than they hurt each other.
45:27
And so I think that is always the weaker writing to just show people like
45:31
this, you know, like every person they run into damn me or other
45:35
than like the Native Americans and uh, well Henry and Sam and you know,
45:39
the first trouble beyond that, it's like everyone else wants to kill you
45:44
and every and not only that, I mean Jesus Christ, Like we have
45:46
two different bosses who are just complete idiots. Yeah, for no good reason
45:52
other than like revenge, you know, or you know, my emotions.
45:55
And it's just that's so yeah, that's so silly. And that's what I
46:00
mean, that's not that's that's something else Momoni was talking about. Like even
46:04
if you've never dealt drugs, right, the wire shows you the humanity of
46:07
these people who do, and that's when it becomes like this was not humanity.
46:13
This is just cartoonish. This is a cartoon you know, much ass
46:16
twirling villain, just like shorty was you know, both of them are just
46:20
like silly villains who are like, like I had to ask twice, how
46:24
did you ever get people to follow you beyond Jesus, beyond you know,
46:30
your brother or whatever. With the first one, it's like, these are
46:32
two morons at least what we are shown on screen of them. Well,
46:38
I mean we can ask that of people who you know was leading the country
46:43
not too long though, Um, I know, but people them, I
46:50
know, well, I get it. Every writer wants to, you know,
46:52
make a point about Trump too. It's like, all right, fam,
46:54
but you know at certain points you can't. You can't do that twice
46:57
in one season. Then you can't have and and beyond that, Like,
47:00
okay, I can get I can't understand why these people would follow them before
47:05
the comments trem and me. I can understand why they would follow them,
47:07
but don't on screen. Then why you show these characters make just ill logical
47:15
to the most It's yeah, whatever, I'm I get it, I get
47:20
it's it's it's infuriating musially for you know, one of revenge. I can
47:23
somewhat get that bro right behind you, yeah, but is right behind you,
47:30
I know, but fuck it you know, dude killed her brother.
47:35
You know, I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna get my get back.
47:37
You gotta be alive to get to get back, No, get to get
47:42
back and then die. You know, fuck it, it's all you know,
47:44
but you gotta be alive to even do it. Yeah, I know,
47:47
not even enjoy it. To accomplish the act of getting revenge. You
47:52
have to be alive first. Well, she thought she had time. I
47:57
don't know how, but you know, like yeah, but then this one,
48:00
like I like, dude, shouldn't just bounced like there's it wasn't like
48:07
he was like, you know, I want to die. You know,
48:09
there was nothing leading up to this. It was just like my fingers broke,
48:15
I'm gonna die. You know, like what how does you have a
48:16
whole flock, David, your whole flock film? Fuck um? Because one
48:22
little girl, you know, like the one so bad I was really in
48:31
love with James and you hear them. I don't know, like, you
48:36
know, give me something, give me something. I don't know. I
48:42
don't know. Yeah, I just I'm very scared and scared. It's just
48:46
again from my from my mental health specifically, I am a tad nervous for
48:52
the last episode of the Last of Us. Yeah, we actually were given
48:58
the last two, you know, to review ahead of time, so we
49:01
now have both in our possession, and I know, topdown it probably felt
49:06
like me after watching that from eighth I'm like, yeah, I need a
49:08
few days off on that. At least I needed some time. I need
49:12
something. I probably won't watch the next one until like next week, because
49:17
you have to record. I have to, damn it. Like shit,
49:23
we know how the story begins and how it ends. Let's just say that.
49:29
You know it's the Last of Us. As I've said many times on
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here, you know it ain't the last of a lot of us faults,
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you know. Ah, right, I think we've said what we had to
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So yeah, a lot of things will be coming together. Your head gonna
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I've been hyping it for a long time, but and you ain't seen it
54:36
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54:45
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