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Amy & T.J. ReRun: The New Bachelorette: Taylor Frankie Paul · I Do, Part 2

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Taylor, Folks, got a question for you on this episode today.
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: Are you team Taylor? Are you team Whitney? And if
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: you don't know what I'm talking about right now, you
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: are out of the loop or under a rock. Kayler, Folks,
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes. Sitting
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: next to me, Robes, we have talked to several people
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: the last couple of days we said we are interviewing
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: the women from the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. What
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: has been the reaction we've gotten from everybody in niversal?
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: My gosh, I'm obsessed.
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  Speaker 2: And you know this show has been out not even
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: for a full week, correct, and it's already it's number
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: one on Hulu.
• 0:38
  Speaker 3: Everyone's talking about it.
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: I was excited to have a reason for research purposes
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  Speaker 2: to have to watch the show, and that's all I've
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: been doing for us.
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: In all seriousness, were you really trying to find a
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: way to make an excuse for why you needed to
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: watch it because you felt like I should I shouldn't
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: be watching that type.
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  Speaker 3: Of smart You know, the answer is absolutely.
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: I watched ninety Beyonce Married at First Sight, Love Island,
• 1:05
  Speaker 2: Love is Blind, full disclosure.
• 1:07
  Speaker 3: I love some reality.
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  Speaker 1: So let's be honest, full disclosure here. I watch plenty
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: of those with you. This one is different for a
• 1:16
  Speaker 1: very specific reason that we'll get into. But right now
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: we need to welcome into the studio folks. They are
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: sitting right here in front of us, two ladies who
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: are looking for tickets to the Book of Mormons. If
• 1:29
  Speaker 1: you have this long broadway they would appreciate. With Taylor Freaky,
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  Speaker 1: Paul Macy Neely, Welcome, Welcome to the show.
• 1:37
  Speaker 3: Welcome to guys.
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  Speaker 4: You guys are entertaining to listen to.
• 1:40
  Speaker 5: I love your voices.
• 1:42
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 1:42
  Speaker 5: You're the news background.
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  Speaker 3: Oh okay, yes, decades of training.
• 1:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so so okay, with that background, you know we're journalists.
• 1:50
  Speaker 1: We're going to get right to it. So tell us
• 1:53
  Speaker 1: season two. Is it confirmed? Is it happening?
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  Speaker 5: It's not confirmed, but I have a feeling.
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  Speaker 4: We hope, yeah, but we don't know anything.
• 2:00
  Speaker 3: Do you know when you'll know? Have they given you
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  Speaker 3: an idea?
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  Speaker 4: If I think, if it's happening, it'll be here very soon,
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  Speaker 4: I think, But I guess. I guess we're not the
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  Speaker 4: ones who call the shots, so real, we know good.
• 2:11
  Speaker 1: Hell, well, this thing is getting renewed. Is there anybody
• 2:13
  Speaker 1: show a hands in the room who thinks this is not?
• 2:15
  Speaker 1: Of course is getting renewed, but it's a congratulations. Any question?
• 2:19
  Speaker 1: What has life looked like since? And again it's only
• 2:23
  Speaker 1: would you say it.
• 2:23
  Speaker 3: Six days or something? It's like four, Oh yeah, well
• 2:27
  Speaker 3: what was it?
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  Speaker 5: Friday? Came out Friday?
• 2:29
  Speaker 1: Wow, as we sit here, you're only a few days in.
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  Speaker 1: How has life changed even in the matter of days
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  Speaker 1: since the show hit who it.
• 2:36
  Speaker 4: Hasn't hit us?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it like hasn't hit us yet.
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  Speaker 6: I think that what's changed, just like all the comments
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  Speaker 6: in all the buzz, Like if we open social media,
• 2:43
  Speaker 6: all we see is ourselves, which is it like normal?
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  Speaker 6: So I feel like that's the weirdest part is like
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  Speaker 6: seeing all the buzz and I'm like, whoa, Like this
• 2:51
  Speaker 6: is bigger than we anticipated or I ever thought it
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  Speaker 6: would be.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think going places too, I don't
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  Speaker 4: think we kind of knew, like because in our circle
• 3:00
  Speaker 4: we're kind of like, well no, i'd say, like people
• 3:02
  Speaker 4: know us in Utah, you know, but we're going to
• 3:04
  Speaker 4: the airport now and like everyone's stopping here, can we
• 3:05
  Speaker 4: get a picture? And it's so weird it's like it's different.
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  Speaker 5: It's I don't know nationwide. Yeah, it's like weird y.
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  Speaker 3: Have you all watched the episodes back I have?
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  Speaker 1: She has it?
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  Speaker 4: No, I get it. It came out Friday I spent so
• 3:19
  Speaker 4: I have part time with my kids, and so I
• 3:21
  Speaker 4: got them back for those three days before I left town.
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  Speaker 4: So I was like, I'm not going to sit and
• 3:25
  Speaker 4: watch the show. Obviously, don't want it on my screen
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  Speaker 4: with my kids watching. It's like my backstory. I didn't
• 3:29
  Speaker 4: want it. So no, I have not gone to it.
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  Speaker 4: I know, people don't blame me, like you definitely have
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  Speaker 4: seen it. I was like, I literally haven't.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Macie, so what do you think having seen.
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  Speaker 5: It it is? I mean it's pretty good.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's hard when you watch yourself in it,
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  Speaker 6: You're like, no, it's like a whole movie. Like it
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  Speaker 6: doesn't seem like a real like production, right because I
• 3:47
  Speaker 6: just see me and my friends on the like on
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  Speaker 6: the TV screen. But I mean it was juicy for sure,
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  Speaker 6: Like it was crazy to see how much was cut
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  Speaker 6: out compared to how much we filmed.
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  Speaker 4: Too.
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  Speaker 6: I was like, this almost seems like a highlight reel
• 3:58
  Speaker 6: of what we filmed because we filmed so much.
• 4:01
  Speaker 3: Or a low light in some moments.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, for sure. True.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious. I don't know how much people want
• 4:13
  Speaker 2: to give away about what ends up happening. And I
• 4:15
  Speaker 2: actually read ahead because it is juicy. That is probably
• 4:20
  Speaker 2: a very light word to use, but everyone knows if.
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  Speaker 3: You've got girl groups. I was talking to TJ about it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it gets messy and it gets difficult sometimes
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  Speaker 2: we have all these different personalities. But I know that
• 4:34
  Speaker 2: there were problems going into the show based on what happened,
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: And we'll get into the backstory of this. But did
• 4:39
  Speaker 2: this do further damage being on the show to already
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  Speaker 2: thinly put together friendships that were barely hanging on?
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  Speaker 3: Did this destroy friendships doing the show?
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  Speaker 5: Yes and no.
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  Speaker 6: I should say like some of us got closer and
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  Speaker 6: then some of us didn't.
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  Speaker 5: And I think there's like a bit of a divide
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  Speaker 5: right now.
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  Speaker 1: For sure, Why are you giggling? You? You immediately reacted
• 5:02
  Speaker 1: to what she said.
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  Speaker 4: Why it's just funny, Like I guess now the girls
• 5:05
  Speaker 4: have seen it. We were told, yeah, you're gonna have
• 5:07
  Speaker 4: broken friendships. Oh like really, and then there has been yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's starting to happen right now behind the scenes,
• 5:13
  Speaker 6: so it's yeah, there's like drama going on behind the
• 5:16
  Speaker 6: scenes with everything.
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  Speaker 4: So it's funny, like it's just the people you don't think.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes it's just like, oh.
• 5:23
  Speaker 1: Is it irreparable though irreparable harm that's being done or
• 5:27
  Speaker 1: just things that are going to take time to.
• 5:28
  Speaker 4: Get past for me, things that will take time. Like
• 5:33
  Speaker 4: I feel like I'm pretty forgive. I haven't seen the show,
• 5:37
  Speaker 4: so I don't know if I'm forgiving you this show,
• 5:38
  Speaker 4: but like I feel like I'm pretty forgiving, especially with girlfriends,
• 5:41
  Speaker 4: and so I feel like if any damage is done,
• 5:43
  Speaker 4: I I'll be able to forgive. We'll just be straight
• 5:45
  Speaker 4: up Whitney right now, you know, it's going through the mud.
• 5:47
  Speaker 4: And so I feel like I was saying this earlier,
• 5:50
  Speaker 4: like I'll always she helped me in a very dark place,
• 5:53
  Speaker 4: like when I was at my lowest, and so even
• 5:55
  Speaker 4: though she might not be a fan of me, like
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be here for her during this cause I've
• 5:59
  Speaker 4: been her exact spot and so I just feel for
• 6:01
  Speaker 4: her at this point.
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  Speaker 3: Is it true that everyone has unfollowed Whitney.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I haven't, but I don't know if she's
• 6:07
  Speaker 4: in following me, but I think all the other girls
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  Speaker 4: haven't followed her. Yeah, And I don't know. It's hard.
• 6:13
  Speaker 4: Like I know they're like very like upset and they
• 6:15
  Speaker 4: have all these feelings into they can. But I feel
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  Speaker 4: like I just have been in Whitney's spot of that
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  Speaker 4: villain and and it's like out of hurt too, and
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  Speaker 4: she's reacting and I think it's out of she's just hurting,
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  Speaker 4: and so like for me, I feel for I'm like
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  Speaker 4: I see myself and so I'm not going to add
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  Speaker 4: to that. I'm only going to be here for her.
• 6:30
  Speaker 1: Have you all reached out? Have you all tried? Is
• 6:33
  Speaker 1: there any communication with Whitney right now?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm here for you no matter what.
• 6:36
  Speaker 1: But is there back and forth or was just kind
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: of one way right now?
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  Speaker 6: I mean I reached out to her and she han't respond,
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  Speaker 6: but I guess she's responding to.
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  Speaker 3: Taylor, And she responded to you, Taylor.
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  Speaker 4: She did, and she like kind of just broke her
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  Speaker 4: feelings down and her reasonings. And I haven't responded because
• 6:49
  Speaker 4: we've been on the go, and so I know to
• 6:51
  Speaker 4: like take a minute to read all of it and
• 6:52
  Speaker 4: then respond.
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting you point out and we have a little
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: history and knowing what it feels like when people when
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: they're listening to a story, and obviously there are lots
• 7:02
  Speaker 2: of different sides, but people want a good guy, and
• 7:05
  Speaker 2: they want a bad guy or a villain and a saint,
• 7:08
  Speaker 2: a saint in a sinner. I think one of the
• 7:09
  Speaker 2: episodes is even called Saints and Sinners. Have you like,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like basically somehow you've never actually been in
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: the bad guy situation as if yet not.
• 7:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean towards the end, like kind of can
• 7:23
  Speaker 6: go both ways, and like that end kind of makes
• 7:25
  Speaker 6: me look a little bit like a villain. At least
• 7:26
  Speaker 6: when I watched it, I was.
• 7:27
  Speaker 5: Like, uh oh, but like that wasn't the intention.
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  Speaker 6: They did cut a scene where I asked Taylor's permission
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  Speaker 6: to call this person who's like involved in Dakota's past,
• 7:36
  Speaker 6: but they cut that out, so I was like, Dan,
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  Speaker 6: that actually kind of makes me look a little bit
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  Speaker 6: like a villain. But if they saw it wasn't cut.
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm just cadding she's a good friend. So it's
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  Speaker 4: like hard when you're like.
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  Speaker 6: I wouldn't say I'm like a natural villain like I
• 7:49
  Speaker 6: would just say, like, I'm not man, I'm perfect. I'm
• 7:53
  Speaker 6: just kidding. No, But I I just like love my
• 7:56
  Speaker 6: friendships and I hate when people, yeah, and I hate
• 7:59
  Speaker 6: when people are so hot cold Michel, I can't we
• 8:00
  Speaker 6: all just like be friends?
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  Speaker 5: Like how hard is it to get along? Like I
• 8:03
  Speaker 5: don't understand.
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  Speaker 3: Apparently it's really hard.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, And I understand because like you have eight strong,
• 8:09
  Speaker 6: like minded women, like we all are like opinionated, like granted,
• 8:12
  Speaker 6: like potsfried By were on a reality show together, because
• 8:14
  Speaker 6: so there's bound to be conflicts, right, like it's just natural.
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: And please know when I asked, we're only three episodes in.
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: Let you know that. So when I asked, I said, okay,
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: I know who're interview. Got Taylor, got Mace, and I
• 8:27
  Speaker 1: came in that like came around the corner. I said, okay,
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: which one is Macy's Again, she said she's Switzerland. That's
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: how she rides been able to go back and forth
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: with two different groups at least. I think we're on
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: episode four, by the way, but she suggested that that
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: might have been stressful or difficult for you. When even
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: I opened this episode talking about Team Whitney R Team
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  Speaker 1: it seems like everybody needs to take a split outside
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: and you are going back and forth, and what does
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: that continue with you now? The stress of having to
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: try to manage kind of keep the whole team together
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: in a certain way.
• 8:59
  Speaker 6: I feel like right now now I'm not I'm not
• 9:01
  Speaker 6: even thinking about it and when there's too much going on.
• 9:03
  Speaker 6: But during the show, I feel like it was the
• 9:05
  Speaker 6: biggest stressor for me. Was like I feel like I
• 9:07
  Speaker 6: was always in between two groups and it was hard
• 9:10
  Speaker 6: because now I feel like I'm seeing online like on
• 9:11
  Speaker 6: social people are being like, oh, she's playing both sides,
• 9:14
  Speaker 6: like she's the smart one, she's the staring the problem,
• 9:16
  Speaker 6: Like actually no, I was stuck between two sides and
• 9:20
  Speaker 6: it was so stressful because like then when bore are
• 9:22
  Speaker 6: they saying about me? And I'm like, I'm not saying anything,
• 9:24
  Speaker 6: and the was Whatney saying. I'm like, I don't want
• 9:26
  Speaker 6: to say anything, like I just want to be friends
• 9:28
  Speaker 6: with everybody, and like, apparently that's an issue and I don't, like, yeah,
• 9:31
  Speaker 6: that's like a problem.
• 9:32
  Speaker 3: People want people to take sides. I think a lot
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: of times true, Taylor.
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: I want to ask you, because how this all began. Obviously,
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: I learned a lot about what is it soft swinging is.
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: We don't need to go into all of that because
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: I think that's been heavily discussed. However, I did have
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: a question because we started watching the episode and it
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: starts out right after all of that, and presumably when
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: you all got the show the TikTok that went viral,
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: you had been accused of cheating or being a man
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: or a husband stealer, and you said, hold up, everyone
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: was involved or a lot of folks were involved in
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: this soft swinging, so it was agreed upon consensual mutual
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: so I'm not the bad guy here. But then, of
• 10:22
  Speaker 2: course many of your friends and the friend group felt
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: like they then had to defend themselves say hey, it
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: wasn't me. There are a lot of questions swirling around.
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: Is anyone who was on the show now a part
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: of that group without naming names? Or are these all
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: people we haven't heard or seen before.
• 10:38
  Speaker 4: The second one? So yeah, no one was involved on
• 10:41
  Speaker 4: the cast shown.
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: Now, yeah, do you feel like you made that clear?
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: And that maybe that's why some of the girls were
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: upset that they didn't feel like their names were cleared
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: by you.
• 10:52
  Speaker 4: Now, I feel like it's very cleared. I don't know
• 10:55
  Speaker 4: how much they show on the show, but I think
• 10:56
  Speaker 4: I've cleared that up now and especially in the interviews
• 10:59
  Speaker 4: as well, like we've all said, know, like none of
• 11:00
  Speaker 4: the cast is like involved other than myself. Yeah, So
• 11:04
  Speaker 4: I feel like that's clear, But I don't know. Is
• 11:06
  Speaker 4: there still questions do you think out there?
• 11:07
  Speaker 6: Yes?
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, because anything anybody told me about this show about
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: Mormon wives, Oh they're swinging, did you not know?
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: Thinking who's denying it? They just don't want to admit it.
• 11:21
  Speaker 3: So I think.
• 11:23
  Speaker 4: Here's it's hard is because we are in like the
• 11:26
  Speaker 4: TikTok world and that's our jobs and we do that
• 11:29
  Speaker 4: and there's mom talk, right, So you have people that
• 11:32
  Speaker 4: were involved in there and then they're not on the show.
• 11:34
  Speaker 4: So it is very like people cannot connect. But I
• 11:37
  Speaker 4: think if you have been there and you did the research,
• 11:39
  Speaker 4: it's not hard to pinpoint who.
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: Is and who is I haven't done.
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: We have more homework so that some further interviews. But
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: we started out.
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: You started out thinking you were pregnant, you had I
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: believe a miscarriage, and then almost a full year goes
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: by before you start filming again. Yeah, obviously you were arrested.
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: Anybody can do that Google search as well. What happened
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: to you during that year and what made you decide
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: to start filming again?
• 12:11
  Speaker 3: Give us fill in that gap for us.
• 12:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like it was like a transformative time.
• 12:17
  Speaker 4: I would say, I feel like when I started to film,
• 12:19
  Speaker 4: you can see it clear as day. I'm I know
• 12:22
  Speaker 4: you haven't like finished, but I'm a different person. It's
• 12:25
  Speaker 4: episode one, And then I think, I you know, I'm
• 12:27
  Speaker 4: a completely different person going forward in the show, you know,
• 12:33
  Speaker 4: And so I feel like in the beginning would have
• 12:35
  Speaker 4: been chaos if we kept filming. I can't imagine the
• 12:38
  Speaker 4: show because I was like, you can just tell them
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  Speaker 4: like I don't care, I don't give an f about
• 12:43
  Speaker 4: anything or anyone. I was just in a hurting phase
• 12:45
  Speaker 4: and I just like was so angry, I think, and
• 12:47
  Speaker 4: then I've yeah, I was dating Dakota, I went through
• 12:50
  Speaker 4: the miscar or the ectopic pregnancy. So I feel like
• 12:52
  Speaker 4: I got softer within time, and like more empathetic towards
• 12:56
  Speaker 4: others and like how they're feeling, because in the beginning,
• 12:59
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't care why anyone's feelings, Like I
• 13:00
  Speaker 4: hate all of you, like anyone that did me wrong,
• 13:02
  Speaker 4: you know. And so I feel like during that process,
• 13:05
  Speaker 4: I could empathize with people and like I just learned
• 13:08
  Speaker 4: a lot and I went through a lot, like of
• 13:10
  Speaker 4: mental health stuff. Like I feel like I was very
• 13:12
  Speaker 4: low in that time too, and I went to EMDR therapy.
• 13:16
  Speaker 4: Lots of issues in my relationship, like we were really
• 13:20
  Speaker 4: trying to make it working after an ectopic pregnancy of
• 13:22
  Speaker 4: loss and like you're barely hanging on, like Rocky we
• 13:25
  Speaker 4: just met, so like I'm so like it was shocking
• 13:27
  Speaker 4: that we're still together, you know, after all of that,
• 13:30
  Speaker 4: but working on that and then yeah, I got pregnant
• 13:33
  Speaker 4: again and that was I think that was no accident,
• 13:35
  Speaker 4: Like I wanted that. I think from the loss, I
• 13:37
  Speaker 4: was just like so hurting and I wanted I wanted
• 13:40
  Speaker 4: a child. I wanted that child, you know that I
• 13:41
  Speaker 4: had lost, so like I wanted that and he did too,
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: And so I feel like there's no regret there. But
• 13:46
  Speaker 4: I know it's hard if what everyone's no opinions of
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: like that's not the smart thing to do in a
• 13:50
  Speaker 4: rocky relationship, and you're like you're probably right, but it
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: was at that time like that's what I wanted, and
• 13:54
  Speaker 4: so I did it, and I love my baby today
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: and you know, I'm so happy with him and we're
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: still like going through stuff and rocking and obviously relationship.
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: Putting it on reality TV makes things difficult, right, Like
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: maybe I don't make the smartest decisions, but I don't know.
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: I went with my gut on what I wanted and
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: I did it so.
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: Well on the Since Dakota is the topic here, well
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: just some quick follow upd coda questions. One are you
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: all headed to marriage? Two? How are your parents with Dakota? Three?
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: How is Macy these days? With Dakota? Oh?
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: The eyes?
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: They don't lie, do they? So let's sus start with
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: Macy with the eyes. Okay, tell me what it.
• 14:35
  Speaker 6: Is joking because we have we have like beef on
• 14:38
  Speaker 6: the show obviously, and like I mean, I feel like
• 14:41
  Speaker 6: we're okay. I don't know though, because whatever this is
• 14:44
  Speaker 6: how it always explained a relationship.
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: When we're together in person.
• 14:47
  Speaker 6: We vibe so well, like me and Dakota, like our personalities,
• 14:50
  Speaker 6: like we had to travel here all together, Like we're
• 14:53
  Speaker 6: joking around with each other. I think for me it
• 14:55
  Speaker 6: was more like Taylor's coming to me saying like, hey,
• 14:57
  Speaker 6: he's doing this or doing that, and like this is
• 14:59
  Speaker 6: a red flags, the red flag you shouldn't talk to you
• 15:01
  Speaker 6: like this. So for me from a protective friends standpoint,
• 15:03
  Speaker 6: I'm only seeing the bad for a while, right, and
• 15:06
  Speaker 6: I wasn't really saying the good. And I think over time,
• 15:10
  Speaker 6: like I realized, oh, like, you know, I like him,
• 15:12
  Speaker 6: Like they have their floss and tailors not perfect either,
• 15:14
  Speaker 6: so I think when I would see stuff like that,
• 15:15
  Speaker 6: I was like, okay, Like so they both got a
• 15:17
  Speaker 6: little messy, you know, like we our relationship is on
• 15:22
  Speaker 6: decent terms.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: But it sounds like, as you said here, you're fully
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: supportive of them and a future together.
• 15:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And I told like I've told her and like
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: I've told him, like I want you guys to work.
• 15:33
  Speaker 6: I give a baby together, Like I hope that, like
• 15:35
  Speaker 6: everything works out for sure, Like as long as everything's
• 15:38
  Speaker 6: good you guys are treating each other, right, then great,
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: like make it work, you know.
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, the goal has always been marriage. I feel
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: like I don't know how much they show, you know,
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: in the show, but I feel like I've expressed that's
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: the goal. I'm just not to the point of I
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: don't want to right now. Like for me, I feel
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: like there is trust issues there, you know, have how
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: we started, and I just need that time to like
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: hill from that and grow the trust back, you know,
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: like it needs. I'm not going to go into a
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: marriage not really fully trusting the person. And so we're
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: working on that. And then my parents love him, we
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: love him. They want They're like, if it were up
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: to them, i'd be married today.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: So yeah, an early episode.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: And your mom it was I laughed. It was actually
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: quite funny and it was real.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were warm about it. They weren't mean, but still.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: They had Yeah, my mom's pretty harsh.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: She's she's honest, you know, And you've got to appreciate that,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: especially in a reality show where maybe you can't believe
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: or trust much of what you're seeing or hearing. Your
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: parents will set you straight, and I appreciate that. I
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: have been fascinated. So I grew up Catholic and I have.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: You know, over my.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Period of time, I went from being a cafeteria Catholic
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: to kind of jokingly becoming a recovering Catholic. But I
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: didn't realize Mormonism you could have these varying degrees. I
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: thought you were all in or all out, and so
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: we see some of you drinking, We see some of
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: you obviously sexually being explorative, which wouldn't be something that
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I would think would be sanctioned by the church. What
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: do you think about what this is doing or saying
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: about modern Mormonism for people who are watching and maybe
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: only have seen the Book of Mormon or have only
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: heard because this isn't something This isn't a religion where
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: you can walk into tabernacle like I don't want to
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: say secretive, but it's closed. It's not something that's open
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: for everyone. So people can only guess. What do you
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: think this show is doing for your faith? And what
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: have you heard back from maybe bishops or leaders of
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: the church.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: I feel like it's opening people's eyes to it doesn't
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: have to be like that, like very one way or
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: the other, all in or all out, and that is
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: like my message out there is that's not the case.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: Like I feel like we all go through these trials
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: that you see in the show. Everyone does, Like I mean,
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: people struggle with addiction and alcohol and affairs and all
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: these things, and even in the Mormon religion and it happens,
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: it's just very hush hush, and so our thing is
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: like just I want to share my story. I want
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: to come out and people like Mormons, we aren't perfect,
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: and that's like it doesn't have to be that way.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: We all live differently, and you see that in the show.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: There's a very devout and then there's one that completely
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: left the church, that was born and raised, right, So
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: it's like our message was everyone has a different story
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: and it doesn't have to be one way, and that's
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: what you think it is. That's where a lot of
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: people think it.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Is as you said, right, Yeah, I absolutely thought.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: That, and it's not and we don't not everyone's perfect,
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: and that was what the message is.
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: And no one has reached out.
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: I feel like, at least from anyone that I know,
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: no church leaders have reached out. They posted a statement
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: before the show came out, and I think it was
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: more just because everyone was freaking out onlinees like like
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: they had to post something, you know, but like everyone
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: was just chudging a book by its cover, like when
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: you watch the show, like it's not like a documentary
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: on like Mormons, right, Like it's not like that. And
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: so I think, yeah, like people were just judging a
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: book by its cover and no one's reached out to me.
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: Actually someone reached out because I wasn't at church on Sunday,
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: Like this doesn't make sure you're doing okay. Like I
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: thought it was because of the show that I wasn't coming,
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: But I was just like kind of sex. I was like, no,
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: that's not the problem. I'm like, I'm good, I'm coming.
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: I don't care what you say.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, That's what I alluded to at the top
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: of why this show was different. There are plenty of
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: the housewives and reality this and that that put people together,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: and you know what you're going to expect, you're going
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: to They're going to put them together. They're going to
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: take a trip, they're going to put some alcohol, they're
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: going to go to lunch, and it's going to be
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: an explosion. The thing about this story this that's different,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: and there is some of that minus the alcohol. I
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: suppose there's some alcohol. There as some alcohol.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that causes some of the problems, just the fact
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: that they're being there are there is alcohol there, But it.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Makes I'm curious about how the Mormon faith plays into
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: your life. I have a curiosity sitting on the edge
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: of my seat watching you all, not because I want
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: to see a fight, but because I'm curious of how
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: you incorporate your day and day, your relationships, your your marriages,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: your kids, how that blends with your Mormon faith. And
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: so my question, I guess, do you find it good
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: and bad? You're showing a side of the Mormon faith
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: that people didn't say, Oh, they're normal just like me. Yeah,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: that's a good thing.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: But on the other side of that is they're showing
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: the Mormon faith and go, oh, that's how they are.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: So it seems like it's a double sided coin.
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: I think for me, I love that we could all
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: show like where we're at, because I'm like, I want
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: other people, especially people who are making Mormon or maybe
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: don't feel like they're enough because they're not following the
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: rules or the guielms to a tea. I want them
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: to build the watch and relate and be like, oh,
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: so like I don't I can swear and be Mormon. Oh,
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: like I don't have I could do a coffee and
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: still go to church and be Mormon. Like that's I
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: think what we wanted out of it. Is like no
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: one's perfect and people are still doing things, but they're
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: not like they're not omen like us admitting it and
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: so like, and I think there's like we just want
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: to get rid of that guilt and shame feeling for
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: people who maybe feel like us and like I was.
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: I say this so many times where people are gonna
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: say it's like my whole personality. But I'm from California,
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: and California culture with Mormons is different. Like I grew up,
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: I feel fairly normal, like none of my friends are
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: really Mormon, like, so I feel like I have a
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: different perspective in general. I'm like, this is how Mormons are,
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: it's like how I am. But in Utah, the culture
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: is different, for sure, and I think it's a little
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: more I want to say judgmental, but it's a little
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: more to the book, like everyone's mostly following the guidelines
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: to a tee and it's not like that like everywhere else.
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: I feel like mostly Utah, So I think it's shedding
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: light on like relatability.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: I've been to Utah. It is very different than the
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: rest of the country.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: It certainly is.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I'm curious you said Taylor that in Utah people recognize
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: you and now you're going to probably have a very
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: different experience as you venture out. But how have you
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: been treated? Like do you see the sneers in the
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: eye rolls? Do people say things to you based on
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: just the even the TikTok situation?
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: What has your life been Like?
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like it's been overall in person, everyone
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: is great, And I think when everything originally came out
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: on TikTok, I had a like in Target, a girl
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: was like, just so you know, like I got you,
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: we have your back, we support you. And it was
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: like a random strang journal I was like, thank you.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: Like a church, a girl came up to me after swinging.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: Things just came up. She's like, I'm just glad you're
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: here today, and that's when she came. It was just
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: like things like that. But now we were at the
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: airport and a girl was like, oh, we were all
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: dressed and the same and it was the cast and
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: she was like like, what's going on? You know when
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: we were talking her, were like talking about the show
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: and she was like, oh yeah, none of that. Like
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: you could just tell she was a Mormon and like
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: heard about the show and already was just like none
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: of that. And then all of us were like just
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: like kind of shocked by her reaction, and like to me,
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: she was like, we all lived differently, we all make
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: mistakes and that's okay. Like was very like firm back
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: to her, and she's like, you know what, I apologize.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: You're right, Like I think just like hearing it, and
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: she was like she hurt herself, like, oh, I'm sorry,
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: I apologize, And so that was kind of cool to
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: witness that conversation in But I haven't noticed it other
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: than that, but I'm sure we'll get it now, especially
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: because she hadn't seen the show right, and they're they're
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: going off just the title and the trailer and they're like,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: that is not us.
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: And they usually don't say it to your face, they
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: say it behind your back.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: I wasn't there for that. I'm dang, I'm mad I
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: missed that. Taylor.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: I have another question for you. This is just my curiosity.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: How do a group of Mormon couples even start a
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: conversation or even entertain the idea of this soft swinging?
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Like where does that come in? Does someone bring it up?
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Like? I'm just curious how something that like that begins
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: in that group set it.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: I think it was curiosity for everybody. So I've talked
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: about it before. They didn't do what you normal people
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: do in their college fun years, right, they got married
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: and for their first everyone was each other's first, right
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: like in most of them. Me I won't speak for
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: myself in that situation, and I also did party my
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: younger years, so I had experienced that type of life.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: For them, I think it was all new. And even
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: for my ex, his first time drinking was twenty eight
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: years old, twenty nine, and so I feel like it
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: was like this thing that we like started to drink
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: and that was fun and it was cool, and then
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: it was like and then it just another step was
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: the boys like girls should kiss, and I did that
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: in my young year, so I was like, okay, like whatever,
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: let's kiss, let's be. It was just like dumb stuff,
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: like high school stuff. And then it was like, let's
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: play spin the bottle, and it progresses. It's all basically
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: games you play in high school and college that they
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: didn't experience with other people, and so it led from yeah,
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: that and then it was everyone's blindfolding each other, making
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: out with everyone and then touching everyone, and it was
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: just like love Island games.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Honestly, oh, yes, we're familiar, but it's like all that
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: maybe even I don't want to put words, but like
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: all that repression maybe or you can't or you shouldn't
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: or don't. So you end up having like teenage years
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: in your late twenties.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: And it was fun because we had been married for
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: like six world. Oh I'd been married only six years,
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: and so it's like you're kind of at that time
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: of like just like little bored. I would say, like
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: I hate to admit it, but bored. And so it
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: was like spicing things up. And the guy saw they're like,
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: this is spicing up our wives, Like hell yeah, And
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: so it was never with like ill intention. It was
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: more just like, it's fun, my spouse is right here.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: We're not doing anything wrong, like we were on the
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: same page. It didn't feel bad in the moment. You
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: look at it now and it's like it's ruined all
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: of our lives. Everyone's divorced, the kids are going back
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: and forth to houses. It's like ruined our lives, you know.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: But at the time it wasn't. We didn't feel bad,
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: and so it was never a conversation. It just like happened.
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: It's funny because when I heard about it, I was like,
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: this is something you do in college. It's like this
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: is a college exploratory phase, Like why are we doing
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: Like why were we doing this? As like married adults,
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: I mean, each to their own. But when I first
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: heard it, like this sounds like something you do in college,
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: like when you're like get doing your little why And
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: when I.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: Hear some of the people involved talk about it, they're like, yeah,
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: we were just kids. Like we're all thirty almost thirty
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: year olds old, we're not kids, like what.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: They're kids in terms of experience a lot? Right, yes,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: but this was but this was a one off. This
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: was a one This wasn't like a lifestyle you will,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I use that in air quotes, but this isn't something
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: that continues. It was the one off experimental.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: Well, I wouldn't even use the word swinger. I mean
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: I feel like I did, but like going back, I
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: said soft swinging and that wasn't even my term I
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: made up.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, I soft swinging is that clearly defined that everybody understands.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: To be a full on swinger. Ever, it was soft swinging,
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: and someone told me that what we're doing with soft swinging?
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, so I.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Said, And how long did it go on before it
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: started to unravel?
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Folks?
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: A year with a couple and then with the other
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: couples involved. I feel like it all blew up within
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: two months.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't know. Again, I haven't done a deep enough dive,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: have you that to hear the relationships and marriages were impacted,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: all of them.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: Everyone was divorced.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: By it being revealed or just by it happening.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: I think all of it. Yeah, like it happening and
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: the fairs involved and issues, Yeah, I would call it
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: just we opened our relationship up and it went bad.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't even call us I mean swingers at this point, Like, yes,
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: that's what we're known for, But like I would say,
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: it was just an experienced, like open relationship.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: What do you want to be known for now?
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: And as this is, we're all now consuming this season
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: and hopefully there'll be a second season. What do you
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: all hope comes from this? And what do you want
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: from putting this all out there?
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard to say.
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: I think, like, well, the goal with the show I
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: think for us is like relatability. We want people to
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: relate and to be inspired maybe from like we all
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: have very interesting backstories, and you don't see that all
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: in the season one, So we're hoping with like future
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: seasons you can see how we really are where we
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: came from deep down. And I think that everyone even
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: more so can relate to us because we all have
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: interesting stories. So I think that's the goal and the
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: hope is that we can share more of our lives
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: and hopefully impact people and you know, further our careers
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: of course, Like why would you do being a reality
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: show if you like didn't want to further your career.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: I guess yeah.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: For me, I feel like, yeah, it was a big
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: It was an opportunity to obviously tell my story rather
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: than my headline. Yes, that is something I did. That's
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: not something I want to be known for, Like I
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: don't want that headline. It was a mistake, a lesson learned,
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: and I feel like this was my opportunity to come
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: tell my story and that's not me anymore. Like I
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: feel like I've grown from that. I don't want ever
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: that in my life again. And yeah, this was a
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: chance to just like and also show rock bottom like
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: I went through another year of shy stuff and that
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: you can come out of it. And it's like we've
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: all hit a low spot and I feel like you
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: can either choose one way to go dig yourself deeper
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  Speaker 4: and come out of it, you know, so just gave me.
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  Speaker 3: I love that.
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  Speaker 2: I and everyone, no matter who you think you are
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  Speaker 2: or where you are in life or everyone, gets to
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: a point where you hit that moment and then you
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: get the empathy and you get the wisdom, yes, and
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: you learn how to make things better.
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  Speaker 3: And that's how we go through it. So we appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's been entertaining, but I do think there
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: are lessons in there, and this is real stuff that
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: people don't talk about, and you guys are showing us.
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  Speaker 3: So we appreciate it.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: We can't say it enough. Look, we've been through our
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: own types of hell, but it causes us to see
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: a show, even as entertaining and as trashy as some
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I might try to describe it as we saw you
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: all as human beings first, and to see you all
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: sitting in this room, now, that is the first thing
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: we see. We don't see characters on a show. You
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: all are just two human beings who made mistakes like
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: everybody else. And I have my eleven year old at
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: lunch at middle school right now. I told her you
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: all had arrived. She said, send me a pick starts.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: But I'm saying, I'm saying this being doesn't come here.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: She's not that interested. But I'm saying the impact you
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: all are having, for even that kid, and for us
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: and a lot of people, the impact you all are
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: having is enormous. What it ultimately ends up being, who knows,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: but it's still we love to see a human story
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: and a comeback story and real, y, real folks. So
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: we're saying that from the bottom of our hearts.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: And it was honored to be on like especially you
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: guys have been through your own stuff and you can
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: maybe relate in a sense of like we can.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we can.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: We know what it's like to be vilified and relate
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: to the swinging stuff.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh no, I mean that's what I mean.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Yes, being being the villain in anyone's story is a
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: really tough place to be, but it makes you better
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: and it makes you stronger in the end. So congratulations
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: on the wild success that you are experiencing.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: And we hope for reconciliation, you know, we we.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Hope Whitney comes back and we get more and we
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: we We're going to finish the season.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: I might be done by tonight. Actually to thank
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: You all, thank you, thank you, thecation B, the int