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Bears for Breakfast: Bears-Panthers Week 1 Preview · 2nd City Gridiron

• 0:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: What's going on, everybody?
• 0:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Happy Saturday.
• 0:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to another edition of Bears for Breakfast.
• 0:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm Jacob and Fonte alongside Jacob White.
• 0:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: We are here for episode number two.
• 0:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the NFL season is officially underway.
• 0:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was two games of very interesting play.
• 0:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of rust all around, but it's just going to have football back.
• 0:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jacob.
• 0:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm Jacob, you're Jacob, how's everything going?
• 0:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, how did you enjoy those first two games of NFL action?
• 0:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think for the first time, pray ever since I played DFS daily fantasy sports, which I'll get into in my segment.
• 0:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I actually won money on both slates.
• 0:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Usually, oh, there you go.
• 0:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, usually I used to just getting absolutely torched and regretting all my life decisions.
• 0:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think you're about moving out to the doonies middle nowhere.
• 0:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: So good start.
• 0:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Before we get into this too much, I wanted to address something from last episode.
• 1:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: You alluded to something about perhaps a fight to the death.
• 1:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: between the two of us at the end of the season, of course.
• 1:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I did want to say, I find this a little bit unfair.
• 1:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: For those of you that don't know, Mr. and Fonte is a professional wrestler, not like the kind you might see on ESPN, more like
• 1:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: the kind that you would find it like a fraternity party in their backyard.
• 1:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: But still think that's like an unfair advantage.
• 1:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we can get into that later.
• 1:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: But just a reminder that Infanta is a professional athlete depending on how you would qualify that statement.
• 1:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I appreciate that.
• 1:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's very kind and I've had over the years, many people claim that what I do is not a legitimate sport.
• 1:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: But there's a lot of athleticism that goes into it.
• 1:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just started up classes again on Monday.
• 1:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's good to be back in the ring.
• 1:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll we'll take into that later in the show because we got a lot of stuff to talk about with the Chicago Bears picking things up, but I any chance that I get to to ramble on about my wrestling classes, I will absolutely do that.
• 2:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I
• 2:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Here we go.
• 2:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're kicking things off.
• 2:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: As of this recording, the Chicago Bears kick things off tomorrow.
• 2:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Against the Carolina Panthers in week one here, Big News, though, going into the game is DeAndre Swift, signing a massive contract extension right before the buzzer.
• 2:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: three years 33.75 million dollars that comes out to a little over 11 million dollars a year, 20 and 27 and a half million guaranteed.
• 2:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: So you've got to walk down now through 2029.
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, given the guaranteed money, it's essentially a two-year deal with the option to you know, get out of it before the third, before, you know, once he turns 30 years old.
• 2:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's now the 14th highest paid running back in the NFL real quick.
• 2:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess
• 3:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's nice to have him walk down, but is that something you would have paid him?
• 3:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a raise over what he had previously, but still, you know, 14th highest paid running back.
• 3:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it seems like decent value.
• 3:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's fine, like, I think if you're reacting probably anything other than like it's fine, you're probably like reading into it too much, he's...
• 3:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like he said, 14th highest paid in the league, like that's, it's about what he is, you know, he's probably about,
• 3:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: an average running back.
• 3:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think I saw a stall like he's kind of he's paid around guys like Jeremiah love James Cook, Kyron Williams, you know, that's like price fair maybe he's not quite as good as some of those but you also have to think about the cap goes up every year, guys continue to get paid.
• 3:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: And most importantly, Kilt Williams would still be on just working contract through.
• 3:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: For sure that the first two years and then that the third year, which we'll see if you still on it would be Kilt's fifth year options.
• 3:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, they're in the spot right now where you can pay, maybe even overpay a little bit, are running back just because they have that competitive advantage given that Kilt Williams is making so much less than he would on the open market.
• 4:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And also would know that hats would hit the open market or if they went in another option, like you're probably looking overpaying for someone else in fridden seas, like I'd rather just keep the guy that knows your system at like a pretty fair cost for now.
• 4:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm with the every step of the way, and I think it definitely opens up the opportunity to spend more draft capital on the defensive side of the ball, where you look at, you know, the last couple of years, they've spent a lot in terms of the skill positions, and I mean, yeah, I've seen some people argue, the 2027 group running backs is really good, it is, and I'm, you know, we'll dig into that, you know, obviously later in the season, but I do think that,
• 4:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm with you every step of the way if it ain't broke don't fix it or yeah, yeah, you know, so I had to make sure that's the exact terminology if it ain't broke don't fix it because I'm like, all right, it doesn't make sense of my head, but I don't know, I'm also just distracted with my fat cat deciding to walk across the screen as we're doing the show, but I
• 5:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, ultimately you have kind of an on guy on a cheap deal for a couple more years, so that's going to be sustainable to have that duo in place, you mentioned Caleb's contract, you know, coming into the mix, you're going to have some more flexibility once you do have to pay Caleb, but, you know, while he's on a cheap deal, you know, have the ability to pay guys like Swift.
• 5:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I mean, all things considered good to have hit lockdown, and now as we're going into, as now as we're going into week one, going up against Carolina, we can focus on other things.
• 5:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Don't have to worry necessarily about, are you going to be able to keep the address lifting the long haul?
• 5:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: One of those things that we're going to focus on is the injury report.
• 6:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: If I can remember how to share the screen, give me a second.
• 6:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, brother.
• 6:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
• 6:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is bad.
• 6:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I went to, yeah, I went to share screen and it said this browser can access your screen.
• 6:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's rough.
• 6:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll figure something out, but we'll go through it here.
• 6:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: So,
• 6:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Tyson Bayjan, Roman Dunesay, Ozvi Trepello, and Xavier Woods are the four players listed as questionable.
• 6:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Nobody is listed as truly out for this week, Grady Jarrett and Joe Tune, they were both, they both didn't participate out Thursday due to a day of ungrest.
• 6:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: But they both participated on Friday and full and they'll be good to go.
• 6:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, Beijing didn't play or didn't practice Wednesday Thursday Friday.
• 6:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's questionable.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, doomsday was limited all three days.
• 6:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Trepello was limited all three days and woods didn't have a designation for an injury on Wednesday, but he was limited Thursday Friday.
• 7:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's also questionable.
• 7:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, initial thoughts on that.
• 7:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's luckily
• 7:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: nobody seems to be for sure out.
• 7:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: As of this posting, I mean, we'll see with the questionable guys, but it feels like it could be a lot worse.
• 7:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
• 7:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we'll get into later in the season weeks, you know, six, seven, eight.
• 7:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the endary report's going to look like a CBS receipt.
• 7:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, you know, for now, like, I'm pretty happy with this all things considered.
• 7:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you're looking at like I just pulled it up on my end.
• 7:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you're looking at it like the greedy Jericho to me stuff, ignore those, like you said, it's just a veteran rest day.
• 7:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think what do we find?
• 7:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Trepello, I would just that they probably would make him inactive.
• 7:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think at this point it's more of a question of like, it's like they need him to play like probably could play but I think they want him to be fully healthy.
• 7:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: The fact that they didn't put him on IR or pop tells me they think he's going to be back
• 8:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: But, probably not this week, it sounds like Brexon Jones will start and we'll get into that later.
• 8:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Beijing, I would guess, probably be out.
• 8:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: They would make one of him or Keen a man active anyways on Game Day.
• 8:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, I'm guessing they just, again, say to the conservative route early in the season, make Beijing an active and have cases the backup.
• 8:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: And finally, on Rome, I know there was the quote, Rome told media on Friday.
• 8:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was going to play.
• 8:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I believe him.
• 8:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: What might happen though, is he might not run like the full, you know, or he might not play in the full 60, 65 players, whatever, you could maybe see a spot where Cliff Raymond is getting more looks into it or see her sets, maybe Xavier and Thomas gets some looks into her super sets.
• 8:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know based off of kind of wrongs natural position, maybe even some jade walker reps, so
• 8:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think rum would be active.
• 8:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I suspect he would be active.
• 8:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he'll play full snaps.
• 8:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so for that reason, if you have an fantasy, I'd probably not start him just if you have other options given that I don't think he'll be on the field for all snaps, like he would otherwise be on.
• 9:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, I think that's definitely reasonable and I don't know.
• 9:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a little bit wary about, like I love this bear's offense from a real-life football perspective, but fantasy-wise, it feels like it's a lot of cooks in the kitchen, and I don't know if there's going to be a consistent wide receiver one of the bunch, so I'm a little hesitant on the, you know, the guys in general.
• 9:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: We have a YouTube comment here about
• 9:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: The Andre Swift has been durable the last two years, and he has.
• 9:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he only missed one game last year due to injury.
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't miss a single game in 2024.
• 9:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Also only missed one game in 2023 and that season with the Eagles.
• 9:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's pretty helpful in the grand scheme of things.
• 9:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: And obviously injuries are tough to wait.
• 9:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sneeze coming.
• 9:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh man, the perks of live recordings, man.
• 9:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's the best.
• 10:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so, anyway, injuries are tough to predict, but at the same time, if you can pay money to a guy who hasn't been ransacked by injuries, that's definitely helpful.
• 10:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Another one coming, oh God!
• 10:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a gentleman, I mean, this guy is exactly who you think he is on Twitter, you know, I mean, that one's Lord.
• 10:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that one, that one was fake, that was a false alarm.
• 10:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: That one was fake, okay, I think we're good.
• 10:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Knockout wood, cheese, all right, oh my god.
• 10:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, anyway, here we go.
• 10:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for being with me.
• 10:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so Swift injuries are tough to predict, but the fact that he doesn't have that massive injury report to his name over the course of his career and especially in recent seasons, he's definitely feel a little bit more comfortable paying him that big money.
• 10:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: So let's dig into the game specifically here.
• 10:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know a couple of key positions.
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Breakdowns that we're gonna get into here.
• 11:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know a big one that specifically you wanted to talk about was looking at the Panthers offensive tackles and I don't know.
• 11:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: My whole thing is it's an interesting group because I mean, you know, it's going to be the backups, but even then the backups aren't bad.
• 11:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's a first round pick in Monroe Freelding and it's Rashid Walker who's an experienced starting tackle, but definitely not ideal to have both backups for Carolina.
• 11:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, as we've mentioned, you're more of the ball now or I'm not going to pretend like I'm the artist or on an offensive line play, I lean a lot on Brandon Thorne who I suspect you're familiar with and a lot of people familiar with.
• 11:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: The current group that he has with those two backups, he ranks him as 25th in the NFL.
• 11:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: So like I wouldn't say this is in inoperable.
• 11:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: group at present, but I still think it is a massive downgrade from two really high-level tackles until our Moton who unfortunately has the blood clot.
• 12:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's out indefinitely.
• 12:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're not sure when he'll get back.
• 12:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then Aquano is on puff.
• 12:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the reason I find this match up particularly interesting is I know we spent in Fontail a lot of time talking about the bears defensive line, particularly the edges, the fact they're paying so much money to just sweat and dayo.
• 12:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to be interesting to see, like if they don't come up and play well in this game, I think that like portends really poor play throughout the rest of season.
• 12:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is the best spot.
• 12:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: They need to look good.
• 12:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: They need to not just look okay.
• 12:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: They need to look really good.
• 12:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: So what needs to like turn back the clock because if they can't do it against these tackles, they're not going to be able to do it against some of the more premier, or even just starter level tackles, they'll face down the line.
• 12:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not sure how you're thinking about that, but that's kind of how I see it.
• 12:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I need to see production out of them immediately.
• 12:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm with you.
• 12:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I will say I'm pretty confident that Sweds can be able to do a solid job.
• 12:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think you kind of know what you have with them.
• 12:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think what you have is a high end edge too.
• 13:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: But unfortunately the bears need like given the bears current roster construction they need him to be the bona fide dominant edge one he just isn't and I mean, that's okay, like, you know, I think what you're paying him you're still paying him pretty fair value considering what he brings to the table to Chicago, but yeah, looking at the rest of that group.
• 13:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, oh, dang bow that's going to be the big question with him.
• 13:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: How's he going to bounce back after you know miss in the second half of the year due to injury the first half of the year look pretty bad all things considered Austin Booker and then makes as well where you know he had four and a half sacks and 10 games like that's pretty solid production but still ways to go in the run game And I'll admit the preseason didn't really well me grandmother he didn't play it's on
• 13:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: But the little bit that I saw from them and like you know they get off seems a little bit slower than usual I don't know if that's a coaching thing where it's like all right Let's focus more a little bit more on a reading react as opposed to you know shoot up field you know Pioneer ears back and go after the quarterback or if that just book or like genuinely being a step slower I'm not sure but I'm with you every step of the way I
• 14:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Conversely, I think another interesting matchup is gonna be the bears offensive tackles, versus the panther's edge rusher.
• 14:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Namely, Braxton Jones versus Jailum Phillips.
• 14:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's gonna be interesting to me.
• 14:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know, we mentioned earlier, Ozzy's questionable for week one, but Braxton Jones listed on the depth chart as the starting left tackle.
• 14:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you indicated too, it's like, all right,
• 14:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I think, you know, the fact that they didn't put them on short term IR, the populist makes it think that that's going to be the case.
• 14:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: But they don't want to rush them necessarily.
• 14:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it does tend to believe that Braxton is going to be the, it's going to be the starter in week one here.
• 15:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm particularly interested in this one, because the Panthers, the rest of that edge group does have wow me, especially they had Nick Scorton out for the year.
• 15:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking at the rest of the group.
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's Patrick Jones, who he was a solid rotational guy in Minnesota, but he hasn't lived up to the hype in a starting role.
• 15:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Travis Gibson, remember him?
• 15:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's looking to forget.
• 15:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's his second string for them.
• 15:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: So if that shows the state that they're in right now,
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I pulled it up.
• 15:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: If we want to get real nerdy with it, you know, pull up our glasses and get me analytics.
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jailin Phillips is based off of last year's PFN Edge impact scoring.
• 15:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jailin Phillips is the only edge russure that the Panthers have on the roster who finish with a top 60 grade.
• 16:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: pfn-edge impact scoring grade last year.
• 16:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, you think about it.
• 16:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Every team has two starting ad pressures that, you know, top 64 that's, you know, generally considered starting caliber, but still, you know, low-end actually hold on as I'm checking now.
• 16:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: The other guy the Panthers had was Asha and Robinson, who is in on the roster anymore.
• 16:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: So the only top, the only starting caliber player, the Panthers have on the roster going into this year.
• 16:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: is Jalen Phillips and granted Phillips had a good year, you know, above average starter, all things considered look good in, you know, Miami and then once you got training to Philadelphia, he performed well there too, but it's another thing where it's like, okay, you're a little bit worried about having Braxton Jones in the mix, but looking at this matchup on paper, I'm not, you know, you're not necessarily terrified about what this group has to put together.
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm not.
• 16:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I also would note Philips did sign a four year a hundred and twenty million dollar extension.
• 17:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you wonder if you wonder if there's any of that like.
• 17:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: you know motivation issue as we've seen with other guys that got paid.
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying it's going to happen but to me it's always something I have to look at when a guy gets a bag.
• 17:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I mean if you were paying guarantee me a hundred billion dollars I don't know how hard I would do my job.
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my boss isn't listening and I know he is.
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah I actually am not probably as worried as you are.
• 17:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: for like you said, because of just the relative lack of depth and starting Calvert Town, they have on their do the Panthers have on their edge.
• 17:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Also, I would know Braxton Jones was a serviceable if not above average starter for most of his career, and then was kind of playing through injury last year.
• 17:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: He appears to be healthy.
• 17:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think we could see I expect to see a better Bracks and Jones than we saw last year.
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would also note Ben Johnson is her keen on using his tight ends running backs to chip, to help out.
• 18:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think it's a spot where you're just going to leave.
• 18:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: for action-jong them in the island against Jalen Phillips, especially that's their only good edge rosher.
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think Ben Johnson is far enough to know that they need to protect against that and so he'll bring in him at Hope Regan Lovelin, who lives with Chip, like, I'm not worried about Jalen Phillips, just like teeing off one-on-one on Jalen's all game law.
• 18:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think another thing that was interesting, too, is we saw sporadically last year.
• 18:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Theo Bennett, it was used as a sixth offensive lineman.
• 18:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: They had an eligible tight end, so, you know, that's another possibility.
• 18:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: You could throw him in there, that's probably more on run downs.
• 18:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's necessarily the passing downs, but I mean, hey, you never know.
• 18:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then obviously, you know, a big one here too is Bryce Young, everyone in their mother I feel like, we both fan bases, maybe not my mom, she doesn't tweet very much, but other people's mothers are talking about Bryce Young versus Caleb Williams, obviously, that's a big storyline going into this one, given the Bears Panthers trade back in 2023.
• 19:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: feels like young's got a lot to prove I go into this season and especially going into this game in particular I guess before we take a look at you know like the bears secondary and all that that he's going up against I guess what just what's your general thoughts I'm breast young because I have mine that I'm going to share about what he I'm curious we yours are because it is an interesting case for sure.
• 19:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: it's a pivotal year for him.
• 19:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is this is his year to prove that he deserves an extension.
• 19:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of guys would have already been priced and it coming into their fourth year.
• 19:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that already kind of shows that the Panthers aren't exactly thrilled with him, which is my assessment too.
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's still through three years yet to eclipse six point three yards and attempt, which is certainly well below the league average.
• 19:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, 20 something low 20 touchdowns would be his current high 23 last year in 16 games.
• 20:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think there's a lot of juice there.
• 20:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do think the height stuff matters a little bit, especially if he doesn't have these other other worldly abilities to overcome that.
• 20:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think this is probably his last year as a starter.
• 20:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would not be surprised to see him as about backup quarterback somewhere else next year.
• 20:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm with you.
• 20:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: You look at how many quarterback, how many teams have been shackled by just like overpaying mediocre to bad quarterbacks.
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I look at Bryce Young and I mean, maybe he's going to dominate in year four and start all things around, but based off of what we've seen, I'm with you.
• 20:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: This isn't a guy you can pay necessarily.
• 20:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: granted he is good for maybe like two three unbelievable games a year and then just a boatload of crap in between we'll see if you know if this is going to be one of those really good games because you know the bears do have a bit of a hobbled secondary they're not going to have Kobe white they're not going to have Kyler Gordon Xavier Woods is going to be you know he's questionable so we'll see if he plays
• 21:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm usually, if it's questionable, they do at this rate, but I mean, you never really know.
• 21:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, Mr. Fonte.
• 21:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 21:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, Bryce doesn't have played 16 games last year.
• 21:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: How many games do you think he eclipse 200 passing yards, which is a very low bar?
• 21:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: In 16 games?
• 21:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: How many times do you think he did it?
• 21:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
• 21:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he played 16 games.
• 21:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know his production wasn't very good.
• 21:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say, I'll say seven four times.
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: He threw.
• 21:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 21:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: So again, like you're seeing 154 yards and then the next week 330, but then 121 150.
• 21:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's just so many games where he just does nothing.
• 21:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then yeah, he does have
• 22:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: like you had in week 11 last year where he throws for 450 yards, wins no T against the the Atlanta Falcons, but I mean this is just a guy where he's much more likely than not to just give you an absolute stinker and I hear you on the hoveled secondary like maybe this is a spot where where he can have one of those electric games but
• 22:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: especially missing the tackles, not really having much ever see for behind, Ted, Nick Millen, unless you're like a big cocker fan, coquets, as they sound Twitter, or any of the other pieces.
• 22:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, I think it's a really thin passing for a Hollywood O'Line.
• 22:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like this is the spot where he would be to like have one of those games.
• 22:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't see it happening.
• 22:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that'll kind of reflect in my score prediction.
• 22:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll get into in a minute.
• 22:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 22:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Are you a coquet?
• 22:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Again, this is watching, so in terms of football and real life, no, I think he's fine.
• 22:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's okay, but yeah, co-aker was fun to sometimes queue up in like the 16th round of drafts, but like, I'm not trying to rely on him in real life football to like, wouldn't be a game.
• 23:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the offensive will be very concentrated through Theret Technic Nolan, and specifically, I think what they're going to want to do as we've talked about.
• 23:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: the fact that that we don't like their quarterback.
• 23:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: We don't like their receiving core.
• 23:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think they're just going to want to run the ball a lot.
• 23:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: They have Chuba Hubbard and Jonathan Brooks.
• 23:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think the Panthers just want to just pound the rock today or excuse me tomorrow if they want to have any chance of being the bearers.
• 23:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to need to slow the game down, limit the plays and just try and grind out the clock against, as we mentioned, probably not a great bearer's run defense.
• 23:43
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• 25:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's dig into the scores predictions for this matchup.
• 25:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're both thinking bears, right?
• 25:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: To win this game, I'm curious, your score prediction on this, but I feel like it's pretty safe to say Chicago's the favorites here, and that's one, even though they're gonna be on the road.
• 25:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's week one.
• 25:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of crazy things can happen as we've already seen the first two games.
• 25:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: But to me, I just think,
• 25:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: The rosters are probably close-ish.
• 25:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know some people, I think Jonathan Wood on Twitter was even saying he actually likes Carolina's roster more.
• 25:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I disagree, I think it's close, but certainly on offense, I think bears will book them away.
• 25:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think I really am buying this quote.
• 25:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've been Johnston wants to have the highest scoring offense in a fiddle history.
• 25:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, this just tracks with everything the guy has ever said.
• 25:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think not just for the sake of having the highest scoring offense, but he knows it as defense might let up the most points in the league this year.
• 26:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: So to me, if I'm Ben Johnson, I think this is how we think this is a smart guy.
• 26:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I need to score 30 points every game if I want to win on the right.
• 26:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think what I have to write now is like 31 to 20, maybe 31 to 17.
• 26:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can see some like backdoor scoring, like I think ultimately the bear's defense is just not good enough to really hold them, hold the Panthers under 20.
• 26:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: And here's why you have the bear's score come in a little bit lower than me, more in the mid-20s.
• 26:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: What are your thoughts on that?
• 26:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I also have the Panthers putting up 20 points against the barriers.
• 26:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have the Bears winning 24 to 20.
• 26:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it'll be a little bit closer.
• 26:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think there's the element of the home field advantage.
• 26:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's week one.
• 26:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Both teams are still trying to feel each other out.
• 26:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that
• 26:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, last year was last year.
• 26:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's the first season in Ben Johnson's offense, but they weren't, you know, admittedly they started slow.
• 27:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: They went oh and two and the offense took a little bit of time with gel.
• 27:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it'll be a little bit better this go around.
• 27:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I think, you know, obviously you can see if it happens to the Rams, if it happens to the Patriots and the Seahawks.
• 27:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can happen to anybody.
• 27:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't want to throw the seahawks in because you samed on and literally got injured on like the fifth play in the game or whatever.
• 27:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that kind of just those are game script on the window.
• 27:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you know, I do think it's pretty, it's going to be pretty close to fair.
• 27:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think especially going on the road, the Panthers are a solid team.
• 27:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're not a bad team.
• 27:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're not, I mean, they're not phenomenal either.
• 27:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I think they're, you know,
• 27:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: they made the playoff last year.
• 27:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think they're better on paper than they were last year.
• 27:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, I know.
• 27:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's, no, it's actually like, I thought you're doing a bit for a second.
• 27:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I forgot that that did actually happen.
• 27:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think part of that just goes to show how
• 27:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, this strength of the NFC South, like amongst them, like all the games are competitive, that's because they're all just like super mid, right?
• 28:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
• 28:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, like, they happen to be like the best of the mid, but I see you're saying, like, maybe they're a little better than some people give them credit for.
• 28:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just think Johnson is gonna come out guns blazing.
• 28:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think people aren't factoring just enough the year to jump.
• 28:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have the number in front of me, but I know Ben Johnson's first year from the lines going to the second third year.
• 28:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: He improved their points for a game, but I think it was like three or four.
• 28:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I expect, and I expect, and improvement in the offense, and I think we can see that as early as week one.
• 28:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know
• 28:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: That Ben Johnson was talking about how he's really impressed with the way his players are practicing right now.
• 28:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: There was the quote last year, like, oh, they're not practicing at a championship level.
• 28:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: He said this week, like, that's not true anymore.
• 28:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think part of that is because you're spending so much of last off season, just trying to like reset the culture, create your culture.
• 28:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: learn the playbook.
• 28:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: And now this offseason, they just got to like expand upon that and build upon the base of knowledge and experience and production they had last year.
• 29:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think maybe that's just where we differ a little bit.
• 29:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think I really think this bears offences like super live to be the highest scoring offense in the NFL this season.
• 29:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to have some competition and I think part of that is just because of how poor their defense is Ben Johnson knows that he can't put up 22 points and hopefully he's going to have to try to go for 30.
• 29:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that, I think it's possible, I mean, looking at last year, I mean, the Rams with the only team in the NFL to average over 30 points per game, but I think the Bears could certainly come close, given, you know, Ben Johnson's capabilities, given the skill position players they have with Caleb at quarterback, the offensive line, I mean, they have the pieces in place to do so.
• 29:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: uh... will start week one obviously it remains to be seen and i think it'll be tight i mean that the bears on paper had to have a better team than the panthers i think i feel pretty solid and saying the bears are going to win if they lose this game will definitely be bummed out and it might adjust some things about all right that would i should expect the rest of the season i mean i still anticipate you know
• 30:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you lose this game to Carolina, it's not the end of the world.
• 30:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's not everything is falling apart.
• 30:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think every NFL team loses a game.
• 30:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: There may be not supposed to.
• 30:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: And vice versa, every NFL team wins a game.
• 30:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: There may be not supposed to.
• 30:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I...
• 30:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: This would be one where we would certainly be disappointing if they fell through.
• 30:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: My bold prediction is I think I thought that Caleb Williams was going to lead the bears to a touchdown drive in the fourth quarter, handing it off to Bryce Young to try and put together a two minute drill and he was going to throw an interception to Dylan Thineman.
• 30:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: to lock things out and the bears were going to solidify the win that way as my cat just loves to just walk in front of me.
• 30:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: It loves to let let the people know who are watching on YouTube that he's that he's around and he's he exists.
• 31:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know you you you have your cat away that was probably a smart idea so I don't get sidetracked but if there is anything that
• 31:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: does hold the bears back this year.
• 31:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do think it's, you know, the defensive line.
• 31:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I do think especially now that they've signed Diadres Swift and they've signed into that massive extension.
• 31:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: It frees up the chance, you know, like I mentioned earlier to really focus on the defensive line.
• 31:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, and I know last week I talked about my top five edge or defensive tackles in the 2027 NFL draft class.
• 31:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: So now I want to dig into my top five edge rusher's in the 2027 draft.
• 31:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: And obviously, you know, today we're recording this at Saturday.
• 31:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of these guys are going to be playing today.
• 31:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, only kick things off Colin Simmons from Texas is my number one guy right now.
• 31:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: And.
• 31:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll just say, you know, Dylan Stewart's my number two, those are the two consensus top two by a long shot, and if the bears are picking high enough to draft one of those guys without trading up for them, then the seasons got more fully wrong.
• 32:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have Simmons slightly ahead.
• 32:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's a little bit more refined right now.
• 32:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Stewart has, you know, better size, Dylan Stewart six foot five, Colin seven, just six foot three.
• 32:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think at least I'd take the, you know, Stewart wins in the length perspective.
• 32:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Simmons is an incredible athlete though.
• 32:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Fires off the ball really well.
• 32:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I love the flexibility brings to the table.
• 32:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: At 6-3-2-40, he's not the biggest guy in the world.
• 32:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's not a typical Dennis Allen type of defense event, but he's a compact frame, you know, good speed to power.
• 32:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's a flexibility deep past rushing arsenal.
• 32:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: He can use the counter move extremely well.
• 32:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's why that's why I haven't slightly higher than Stuart, who maybe his counter arsenal isn't quite as strong at this stage, but he still has that freakish first step, like unbelievable wicked flexibility.
• 32:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: He had eight sacks as a red shirt sophomore last year for South Carolina.
• 33:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: And 65, 245, I mean, he could add a little bit more weight, but he's so dynamic and he's so
• 33:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that he could fill out and I could certainly see him going as the first guy off the board.
• 33:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: We do have a question here in the chat again coming in from Dante Purify.
• 33:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Where do you have Quincy Rhodes Jr.?
• 33:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: So the edge russia out of Arkansas.
• 33:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm admittedly a little bit lower on him.
• 33:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't have him in my top five currently.
• 33:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have him an edge nine overall.
• 33:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: And can you add a Jackson Jr. down to Purify Ads as well?
• 33:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Both of these guys are, in my opinion, prototypical data-sall and defensive ends.
• 33:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just admittedly, those aren't typically my favorite types of defensive ends to scout.
• 33:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jackson's right behind him at Edge 10.
• 33:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, the reason that I have them relatively lower is I think both of them, the past rushing arsenal is an incredible.
• 34:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: The size is absolutely there with both of those guys, the power is there with both of those guys.
• 34:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, if you're looking for a true like Dennis Allen type of defensive end, you want a big guy, you want someone with long arm, someone who can set the edge.
• 34:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't care as much about flexibility, the ability to turn the corner and, you know, agility overall.
• 34:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, if you're a little stiff in the, you know, in the hips, that's not the end of the world.
• 34:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, sweat isn't the bendiest, edge rusher.
• 34:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, dang, both certainly isn't.
• 34:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: But both of these guys, I just think I want to see, you know, you can still be big and have a deep past rushing arsenal.
• 34:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: I want to see a little bit more out of those two guys specifically.
• 34:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have the more day two picks, but I've seen some marks with both of them in the first round.
• 34:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can't get on board with that, but I couldn't see them getting overdrafted because it's a, it's a tools thing, you have the size and the length.
• 35:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Real quick, the three guys that I have left in my top five.
• 35:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Y'all and Zepere out of Alabama is my number three.
• 35:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's really,
• 35:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, he's closed the gap in my opinion between the top two and the rest of the field.
• 35:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dynamic athlete, you're just relentless motor that we watch on tape, you just, you know, plays like a bat out of hell.
• 35:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: His agility, his bend, his flexibility is really impressive.
• 35:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's six, three, two, 53.
• 35:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Again, not the biggest, and he has a propensity to miss tackles sometimes.
• 35:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I think
• 35:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I love the combination of athleticism and effort and the flashes he's shown as far as stringy moves together and knowing different past sets to, you know, use different moves against, different tackles to move, use moves against.
• 35:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've got two more here.
• 35:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Damon Wilson out of Miami, former Resue guy, made this switch over to Miami.
• 35:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm still a little salty about it, but that's all right.
• 35:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Another just tremendous athlete, he's
• 36:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: you know fires off the ball incredibly well the raw strength the raw speed is there the ability to you know time does jumps off the line of skirmish incredibly well relentless in pursuit plays with a high motor i love what he brings the table as a backside run defender just how hard he plays to get to the ball
• 36:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: again, the big question with him and like a couple of these guys a little bit higher just an average anchor against the run.
• 36:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's not very big all things considered.
• 36:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you Dante Purify.
• 36:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you know, you know, nice donation there.
• 36:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, that's the first one we have for the Bears and Breakfast history.
• 36:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, how are we splitting it?
• 36:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh god, we'll see.
• 36:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
• 36:40
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• 36:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would know in Chicago Unlike maybe college bars, it's gonna be very difficult to find like a drink perhaps we could share I don't know if we need to like go up to Boys Town or something to find The cheap drinks, but thank you very much Mr. Dante purify for helping pay my rent
• 37:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Or what we could do is if we go to Boystown and somebody gets the wrong idea, have them pay for us.
• 37:15
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• 37:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't have a question actually about Wilson for those non-ball-knowers such as myself that don't watch the film and just go to a little website called NFLMockDraftDataBase.com.
• 37:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're all their draft information.
• 37:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do note he is ranked as the edge number 10 there.
• 37:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: So a little bit curious why you have him white a bit higher than does the consensus at present.
• 37:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so then that's a good question.
• 37:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of it to me comes down to past rushing upside.
• 37:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that a lot of, there are a lot of really good ad pressures in this class that are pretty neck and neck.
• 38:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like when I say, you know, like these are my top five, but I'd say, like as of right now, my probably fourth ad rusher down to like my 11th or 12th are all like not incredibly differently stored.
• 38:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I can see an argument where, you know, if you have like somebody outside of my top five, where if you have Mateo, we on Galilei from Oregon, if you have him in your top five, that's reasonable, because I have him at seven, but the grading is pretty close to Wilson and my number five guy, or someone like Rhodes or Jackson or Clev Lube and out of Louisiana or Louisville,
• 38:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of really solid edge rusher's I think there's a very clear number one and two I think those are the only blue chip talents in the mix, but I do think that I
• 38:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: all things considered it's a lot of solid and I think you know that's probably more applicable to the bears anyway because they're not going to be in a position to get those blue chip players and it's probably more of hey this guy can be another high-end edge to or you know low-end edge one maybe some days that you know hope if you're taking him late in the first round so but it's mostly the past rush upside there are a lot of the other guys who I think are probably
• 39:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe a little bit higher floor where they can, you know, set the edge, they can defend the run a little bit more, they can win with power a little bit better.
• 39:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: But they don't have the dynamic athleticism or flexibility or quick hands that Wilson has.
• 39:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm interested though, who comes in, who's the rest of the top five?
• 39:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because I still want to share my fifth one, but I'm curious, I'm excited to sit and sit and stew it, obviously.
• 39:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it appears you're in lockstep with the top three, and then, not even gonna try to pronounce the last name of Mr. Matteo out of work in Vegas.
• 39:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: He would come in at number four, and then will help at five,
• 40:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: older brother.
• 40:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Really?
• 40:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because he was that was, well, well, how did that Purdue?
• 40:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was that Purdue.
• 40:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 40:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Probably the best athlete I've ever seen in my life.
• 40:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: This guy, Jack helped at Wabash College where I went to.
• 40:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you just could wrestle his face off.
• 40:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I built like a, like an edge, guys, you know, six five, just all muscle.
• 40:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, fun little plug for my, my all mail college that I went to.
• 40:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Shout out, shout out Wabash College.
• 40:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: go awabash i uh it's interesting will help is my edge five so that works out perfectly that's a good segue uh and it's always helpful too to know like you know if a guy comes from an athletic family like i feel like that's always a nice
• 40:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: pedigree background that scouts look at it's like, oh, you know, your dad played college ball or something like that or your brother or sister is a college athlete to like that's always nice.
• 41:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, the more you know, this is, you know, yeah.
• 41:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that guy would walk in the gym and I just I would walk out.
• 41:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, what am I doing here?
• 41:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, take it over man.
• 41:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 41:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 41:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Very athletic family, so not not surprised seeing him come in as you number five inch.
• 41:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, help the very will held is very like similarly built.
• 41:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like to his brother.
• 41:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's six, six, two, 60.
• 41:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's, you know, explosive long arms.
• 41:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's just got a massive tackling radius because of how quick he is and how long his arms are.
• 41:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: It plays hard.
• 41:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Got a lot of upside.
• 41:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's a little bit more of a work in progress as a technician than some of the other guys who are higher on this list as far as, you know, the timing and placement behind the strikes, but there's a lot to like there, especially on tape and as a developmental guy, and I think size wise he really fits with Dennis Allen likes to really highlight at defense event.
• 42:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: So,
• 42:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to, after my preamble, I'm going to turn it over to you.
• 42:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: First, for the audio folks, we are going to take a quick break.
• 42:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then we're going to dig into your week one cash line-up.
• 42:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Look at what you've got going on for DFS and week one and then answer your questions.
• 42:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we're back, thank you for sticking with us here.
• 42:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm Bears for Breakfast.
• 42:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm Jacob and Fontaine alongside Jacob White and Jacob, we get to take a look at your week one cash lineup.
• 42:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: So unfortunately, for the people watching on YouTube, StreamYard is acting up and I can't seem to share the screen.
• 42:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: So unfortunately, I can't show it, but we can talk it through.
• 42:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: So
• 42:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll turn it over to you, and I do have to charge my laptop, so I'm going to go off camera for like a second, put you in the spotlight here, talk about what you've got going on, and just share a little bit about DFS again for those people who don't know necessarily what to expect.
• 43:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man, I've always wanted to have a solo pod, I can't wait.
• 43:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so for the
• 43:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: familiar with DFS.
• 43:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: To me, it is, it is quickly become my favorite form of fantasy.
• 43:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: For one reason is, I think, I do think season long fantasy in terms of like ROI is the softest form of fantasy football.
• 43:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it is very easy to win in season long fantasy.
• 43:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: The issue is that the time horizon of it is such that it's very hard to realize your equity and it doesn't scale very well because of all the settings of lineups and the fact that you're drafting a team in August.
• 43:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then depending on if you have a league manager that actually pays you out on time, you know, you're not getting paid out till January.
• 43:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: So DFS is it is a weekly or even daily
• 44:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: A daily fantasy contest, it is a salary cap based.
• 44:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: So with cash,
• 44:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: DFS, I play on draft Kings at PPR bonuses for 300 yard passing 100 yard rushing 100 yard receiving.
• 44:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm very familiar with that scoring format.
• 44:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I prefer it to have PPR because I also play Bestball on draft Kings.
• 44:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: So cash unlike tournaments, which is probably for people that play DFS, they're more familiar with, it's more about the median outcome, not trying to play for
• 44:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I think it's a very pure form of fantasy where unlike in a draft, where I randomly get a draft spot and maybe I don't get the players I want.
• 44:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: like this year, I think if you pull the number one pick and you're getting Jamir Gibbs, like you're just at such advantage versus all your league mates.
• 44:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: So DFS and then cash, everyone gets, you know, $50,000 of fake salary cap to build your team and it's just one week for roles who can give you the best nine players on an average median outcome.
• 45:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: So starting at quarterback, I have Jared Golf at quarterback.
• 45:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: He'll be a very popular player.
• 45:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's coming in at 6,000 of your salary cap.
• 45:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a pretty easy click.
• 45:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: He has a 28 point implied team total.
• 45:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you're looking at likely three touchdowns.
• 45:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's probably a third or third or passing arts.
• 45:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this game in general has a total of 49.
• 45:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: And a half biggest thinks it has, it's going to be high scoring, and certainly has a lot of potential to shoot out.
• 45:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think golf came in at 6k he could be I think that's probably a little bit fair on the average game, but given the environment given he's in a dome.
• 45:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Given that he does not go up against a particularly strong pass rush with what the same tab and golf is one of those quarterbacks.
• 45:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: The stats bear this out too, but given that he's more of a pocket guy, he really does struggle against pressure, and I don't think the Saints will provide that.
• 46:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think he's a pretty easy play.
• 46:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: And again, that should shoot out, particularly because I believe as in Font and I mentioned on week one, the, I mean, the Lions defense is just as Russia.
• 46:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I seek on coming in and shooting out.
• 46:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Further down the board at running back, I'm playing Gibbs and Taylor.
• 46:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Gibbs, I'm not going to spend too much time on.
• 46:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just talked about him just a little bit ago in terms of him being the best thing in fantasy.
• 46:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's at 8,000 right now on draft Kings.
• 46:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: He should be probably 10,000.
• 46:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Draft Kings intentionally sets their prices a little bit lower early on just as we talk about the season can be a little bit random and they don't want to go to aggressive.
• 46:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: But Gibbs is just way too, way too cheap.
• 46:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: And as Levitan, Adam Levitan mentioned, if you're not playing in cash this week, you need to seriously rethink.
• 46:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're a process and the my other running back at 7300 at my 50,000 salary cap will be Jonathan Taylor Brendan Thorne's number five offensive line.
• 46:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think people forget just how good this cult team was and how good Jonathan Taylor was before You know Jones got hurt last year I mean he was just going off.
• 47:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was on pace to to score 20 30 touchdowns
• 47:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: and he now comes in with Seth McGowan as his backup, so for those of you that were spending your summer outside hanging out with friends and not just drafting best ball teams, you probably don't know who Seth McGowan is, but he is essentially the no-name running back.
• 47:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, to me Taylor has a pretty easy.
• 47:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: path to getting 95% of their team touches.
• 47:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And also with Jones coming off his injury, you know, we kind of view down Johnson's a little bit of a rushing quarterback.
• 47:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think early on especially, he might lean more towards checking down first scrambling, which would obviously benefit Jonathan Taylor.
• 47:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Moving into my receivers, planning on playing Jumar Chase at 7800, a Montenegro St. Brown at 7500, and then Devonne Vela at 3500.
• 48:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Chase and Montenegro St. Brown, again, should be pretty chalk.
• 48:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're both a little bit too cheap for what they should be, again, as we talk about.
• 48:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Errors I just mentioned with the Draft King's Intentionally Soft Pricing Week 1.
• 48:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Again, with cash, we're looking for a median outcome, and so I want guys who are just not going to absolutely bury me by putting up a snowflake as a zero point game that's not going to happen around in Chase and able to have easy easy access to 30 point games.
• 48:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Velle is going to be the one along with Taylor that a lot of people might not consider.
• 48:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know a lot of people are going to play Trey Tucker in setting cash.
• 48:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 48:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's very tough for me.
• 48:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, in any form of fantasy to load up two raiders into my lineup.
• 48:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if I'm going to play Michael Mayor, I think it's not the best decision to play Tritaker at $4,000 when I can say $500 of salary cap.
• 48:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I go down to Vela, who's the same scale up draft capital for midseason last year.
• 49:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I actually had a couple really good games with Tyler Shock, but also plays into the the game script I talked about earlier
• 49:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then finally, Laporta, in my flex, I don't love to play two tight ends in cash because I think it limits your ceiling a little bit, just give them the tight ends.
• 49:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Don't score a ton, but looking at kind of what else is available Laporta at 4400.
• 49:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: other guys in that kind of 4,000 to 5,000 range to me just don't do it and so I'd rather play a guy that I feel pretty confident it's going to get four to five catches, maybe he falls into the end zone.
• 49:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just certainly like on a talent basis way better than a guy like Tray Tucker even at 400.
• 49:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: more.
• 49:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know I'm on Twitter earlier this week was looking at posting lovelin and cash didn't end up going that way.
• 49:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Some people might get there.
• 49:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, man, I'm excited for for Colson lovelin this year.
• 49:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, and Fonte any thoughts on what I've said so far.
• 50:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I'm particularly intrigued.
• 50:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I like the additions of VLA and Michael Mayer.
• 50:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: And actually, while we, I think right before we started recording, Michael Mayer actually just signs a pretty decent extension with the Raiders, which I was a little surprised about because it's like, oh, you've got rockbours in the mix.
• 50:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, maybe you don't want to,
• 50:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: A we want to leave in free agency and get a place where you can be the bona fide guy, but no, three year extension, $45 million.
• 50:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he's now at $15 million a year ranks fourth among current tight end contracts.
• 50:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it definitely seems like, you know, while the Raiders spent big money on Michael Mayer, you were able to get them for a pretty good value in DFS.
• 50:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, everyone has access to this value.
• 50:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: And again, everyone that is playing DFS
• 51:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: particularly cash these these cash being these like 50 50 head-to-head matchups where we're as I mentioned earlier we're looking more for kind of base case and less ceiling but yeah I mean I I didn't get to this on the last podcast but I think Michael Mayor was actually my most drafted player in all of fantasy something like 34 percent of my teams really
• 51:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and this was before the Bower's injury because the thought was always he was going free and drafts.
• 51:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was, for most people he probably wasn't even picked.
• 51:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you're doing these, you know, no life 20 round drafts that I was doing.
• 51:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was free in the 20th round and I'm sending you your going like, if Bower's gets hurt, obviously didn't want that to happen.
• 51:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: It did.
• 51:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Has insane contingent upside.
• 51:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then I think he's just good at football.
• 51:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was great at Notre Dame.
• 51:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: He kind of got,
• 51:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I think he might have been taken in the first.
• 51:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: So don't have that second.
• 51:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
• 51:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Is that good?
• 51:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 51:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 51:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: They used a ton of draft capital on him.
• 52:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was great at Notre Dame.
• 52:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we've seen this trend.
• 52:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if we've talked about it on this podcast yet of more and more teams playing to
• 52:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: three, even four tight ends on the field.
• 52:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: And when you look at this receiver room, like I said, Trey Tucker would be a lead right now.
• 52:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: They paid Jill and Nailer a bunch of money.
• 52:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: They shouldn't have.
• 52:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's just not a lot on this offense behind powers.
• 52:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I thought was always, if bars get hurt, he becomes an insane value.
• 52:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: But then even if not, I trust Kubeyak to get his best players on the field.
• 52:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: And to me, Michael Mayer is their second best pass catcher among their entire receivers and tight ends, just behind Brock Bowers.
• 52:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it's going to be interesting, I mean, especially now that they've, you know, they've paid him once, powers comes back to see exactly what that target shares going to look like.
• 52:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, obviously you're paying a big money.
• 52:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Mayors shown when he's had the opportunity that he's a very good player, and, you know, especially with powers out, I think he's a potential big money contributor.
• 52:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: And Valey, I like to.
• 53:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, because Jordan Tyson still out, you know, he's on IR, he's going to start the year off, miss the first see it handful of games.
• 53:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Valey, you're definitely right, performed pretty darn well down the stretch.
• 53:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And what did exactly what price did you say you were able to get him at?
• 53:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because, yeah, yeah.
• 53:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, draft Kings has him at 3500, a lot of people
• 53:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think Tritaker has probably a little bit of a better ceiling case because Tritaker could be their top target earner week one.
• 53:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do not think Vela would be the top target earner, but I also could just see this rate as often as completely bottoming out and being horrible.
• 53:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I would rather get Vela who I know is going to play, we expect him to play in all the two receiver sets.
• 53:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now the Tyson is out and again, better quarterback, better offense,
• 53:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: to me it's a no-brainer.
• 53:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and I don't get to play two Raiders in my lineup, which I, again, like another thing I look at, in life and in fantasy, it's like, am I going to look back on this decision to be like, what the heck was I thinking?
• 54:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And like, yeah, like, yeah, if I'm getting Dustin week one, because I played two Raiders, like, again, I'm just going to never want to show my face again, because it's just like two easy and hindsight to see why did I play two Raiders when I could play Devon Valley in a much better game environment.
• 54:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly, that makes sense, and just from a moral perspective, you feel dirty playing two graders in your lineup, you know, it's like, what have I, I've stood to this level, like, come on.
• 54:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, the 20 round basketball drafts, the lack of grass touching, that's bad, but like, yeah, once you start throwing two graders in your lineup, it's time to call the number, it's time, it's time to get on the 12 steps, you know, so,
• 54:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 1-800 gambler, we shot them out earlier, so please, please, please, gamble responsibly if you do, please.
• 54:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely, absolutely.
• 54:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, are we going to close things out?
• 55:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: We got a couple of viewer questions, and we're going to answer here.
• 55:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: I first and foremost, we got one from a gridiron uniforms.
• 55:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: They do a lot of good work, like previewing and showcasing a lot of the different uniforms across the league, very fun account.
• 55:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Can you convince the bears to put out a uniform schedule or at least a Jersey schedule?
• 55:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: I wish, if anybody out there is watching who works at Alice Hall who works for the bears, I would love to know when the bears are wearing what uniforms, when they're you wearing the
• 55:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: What is it the it's not the city connect the rival regions use or whatever.
• 55:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: When they're wearing that orange okay real quick.
• 55:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I want you what are your thoughts on the orange jersey specifically the orange helmet before we dig into what do you think about that one.
• 55:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think someone like is a fighting align I fan and saw a lot of noisers he's just said I'm going to copy paste.
• 56:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean they look very similar.
• 56:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think they're fine, but I was hoping for something a little bit different.
• 56:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think these things always look different like when they're on the field, when they're playing some curious to see what it looks like like actually in the game.
• 56:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I know there's a lot of people on Twitter were like they want like the polar bear or the black bear or whatever.
• 56:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I was kind of more on that that side because yeah, we've seen like the all-orne jerseys.
• 56:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just want something maybe a little bit different.
• 56:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: But again, I reserve the right to change my mind once I see them on the field.
• 56:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: To the point of the jerseys schedule, I swear, there's just something they used to do.
• 56:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I know for a fact that they used to post before we won like their whole lineup of all throughout, you know, the 17 games what they were going to wear.
• 56:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know why that went away.
• 56:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: If our friend Mr.
• 56:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Cream is listening, that's like the one person I guess we might know in a house hall, great guy in Twitter, absolutely body the bears by the whole him and Skyline thing.
• 56:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh man, that's so awesome.
• 56:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, Mr.
• 57:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Cream, since this is our best bet, the lovely gender at House Hall.
• 57:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you would please, please, bake the social media team to give us the uniforms would be very, very appreciative of that.
• 57:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Please.
• 57:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have a cream sleeve hat.
• 57:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's in my closet.
• 57:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm going to have to wear that next time.
• 57:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe next episode will see.
• 57:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: But if I can, if I can remember it, I do wear it out from time to time.
• 57:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And all it's like, all right, I got to rep the cream sleeve hat.
• 57:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: you know the people who know who know.
• 57:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Question from a Benjamin as well at Bhead R75 on Twitter slash x.
• 57:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: What are your expectations from this rookie class?
• 57:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm assuming we see very little of Jones, Roush and Thomas.
• 57:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Any preemptive words of wisdom for the fans that panic when they don't have a day one box score impact?
• 57:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll say real quick and then I'll turn it over to you for your thoughts, but I'll say keep in mind that things were relatively light from last year's class two to start off here.
• 58:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Where Azita Pillow was a healthy inactive for those first couple games, healthy scratch.
• 58:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Shemar Turner didn't do very much.
• 58:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he ended up getting hurt, but Luther Burton had a very minimal role.
• 58:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, obviously he had that massive touchdown against the Cowboys, but otherwise very limited from a volume perspective, kind of the same with Colston Lovelin.
• 58:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't really stretch the field within very much.
• 58:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: But none guy was strictly the RB2 to Swiss RB1, but as the year progressed,
• 58:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: that backfield became more of a one A and one B, but I'm guy took on a bigger roll, burden took on a bigger roll, lovelin took on a bigger roll, trapelo had an opportunity to start at left tackle.
• 58:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: He looked pretty solid, all things considered.
• 58:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'd say, be patient if
• 58:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: things don't work out incredibly well right out of the gate.
• 58:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do think that Logan Jones is going to have a chance to start this year Whether it's Bradbury getting benched or injured whatever the case might be.
• 59:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think he we're going to see him play and I think he's a very good fit for what the bears want to execute Along their offensive lines specifically in the run game
• 59:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And when you bring in, you know, Rao should Thomas as two of your earlier picks.
• 59:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's tight end three and wide receiver five, maybe.
• 59:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Naturally, you start to set yourself up.
• 59:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you're not going to get a neat tremendous immediate production, just because of the rules that they're going to be playing.
• 59:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: but with them it's gonna be a lot of flashes like those are very much gonna be long-term moves especially rouse where i think he has the chance to be the tight end to down the line after commit uh... but i think you'll see a decent amount of him is a blocker i think
• 59:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: watching the blocking tape is going to be key or at least the blocking analytics with roush is going to be key because i think that's where you're going to see a lot of his value come in and then feed him into i think you know you're still going to get pretty good contribution right at the gate with it feed him and being a day one starter
• 1:00:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, what are your thoughts on this because I do think that it might not be as impactful of a rookie class is what we saw last year, but at the same time, I think a lot of that just comes down to the roles that they're going to be playing compared to what we saw with the guys last year.
• 1:00:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree, like, after week one, if you're going to Twitter and going like, oh my gosh, like, why didn't Xavier and Thomas go for 100 yards?
• 1:00:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why didn't Malik move home and get a pick six?
• 1:00:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: What, like, we got to be patient.
• 1:00:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think people forget that the draft is not necessarily meant to like, how do I, like, plug roster holes this year?
• 1:00:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's how do I build a competitive team long term?
• 1:00:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:00:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like you said,
• 1:00:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like Ramadon's aid, but they haven't given him a second contract, Ben Johnson didn't pick him.
• 1:00:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Same thing with Comet, like we think probably at some point Comet might get cut.
• 1:00:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like they are kind of drafting and building a team for the long-term perspective.
• 1:00:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if it's like, if it's week 12 and like roush is a healthy scratch, say sometimes it's a healthy scratch, believe Muhammad can't get snaps.
• 1:01:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like then maybe it's time to panic.
• 1:01:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the only guy I'm really looking at week one would be
• 1:01:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Given that he's going to start giving that you used a first hand pick on him given that we thought he was going to be gone by that Like it's not like he was viewed as this like end of round one town He was viewed maybe more as like a middle round one talent So that's really the only guy like I'm hoping to see some plashes of everyone else like give it so the back half of the season and then if we're still not seeing anything Maybe not panic, but let's let's save our judgments for then
• 1:01:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm with you.
• 1:01:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm with you every step of the way.
• 1:01:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a real quick one rocket K11 says how in the flying flip is Aussie to pillow questionable.
• 1:01:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it just comes down to he he he someone gave him the super soldier serum or whatever like he's a he's a freaking nature.
• 1:01:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess that's that's all I can really say like I'm no doctor, but
• 1:02:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: that's nuts, I'm still in amazement, like how quickly he's recovered.
• 1:02:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it's not just him, it's, it's Mahomes' back.
• 1:02:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's Daniel Jones' back from the Achilles.
• 1:02:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's all these guys.
• 1:02:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know there's some speculation it could be, and again, like, because it's banned, I'm not saying this is what it is, but is it peptides?
• 1:02:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is it, I don't know, is it just modern science and innovation?
• 1:02:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: But there's something going on, because these guys are just coming back from injuries that would derail their careers in record times.
• 1:02:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Again, I'm not a doctor, I don't want to speculate, but clearly there is something going on that's different than previous years, and that's why you have him questionable where we thought he was going to be on IR and probably not short term IR.
• 1:02:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: If we're looking back at this point in time, even as a month ago.
• 1:02:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, and it's exciting to think about, like, just how much medicines evolved and how like, you know, recoveries evolved over the years.
• 1:02:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: How quickly guys can come back.
• 1:02:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's really remarkable.
• 1:02:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Ron Martin at Sir Ronald M says, are the bears deep enough at wider silver.
• 1:03:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: John A Walker looks like a wider silver five to me.
• 1:03:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: And Xavier on Thomas looks more like a gadget player.
• 1:03:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: I agree that Thomas looks more like a gadget player, but I think that's perfectly fine.
• 1:03:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, I mean, you have Roman Dunesay, you have Luther Burden as your two primary starting receivers, and when you factor in coast and lovelin, Colcomat is still going to play or roll, DeAndre, so it's going to catch passes out of the back field.
• 1:03:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: You don't need Thomas to be more than a gadget player, and I don't necessarily think he's going to be more than that.
• 1:03:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: uh... the big allure with him is all right he's just faster than everybody else uh... it may be a little bit rosy route running technician didn't run the deepest route tree at lsu last year uh... but he's the tremendous athlete he's agile with the you know the ball in his hands he has that return value uh... i think that's perfectly fine in a back at wider seabird where you and also you have kalee frame and somebody is experienced who can start for you and your wide receiver three in a pinch
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Jadda Walker.
• 1:04:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: I
• 1:04:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious your thoughts because the production wasn't amazing, but also he didn't get much of an opportunity to shine into late in the year.
• 1:04:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And when he did have a chance to shine, he did a really, did a really good job.
• 1:04:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, obviously, you know, you point to that game, tying touchdown against the packers, being one of them.
• 1:04:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: What's your optimism on Jada Walker going into this season?
• 1:04:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'll just start by answering the question in general.
• 1:04:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I actually would push back a little bit.
• 1:04:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I actually think receiver might be one of their deepest positions on the roster, because I like the guys starting, and then yeah, I think if all you're asking is they don't tell us to come in and do some some some screen some jet sweeps, you know, just run some cardio return kicks like that's fine, Raymond can can block his butt, but off he's fast, and then Walker, yeah, we didn't get to see a ton of them, but when it mattered most he came up he made.
• 1:05:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I would not call it a routine catch wouldn't call it like, you know, super difficult catch, but like a very important clutch toe tapping catch at the back of the end zone to win them that game against, to tie the game against the packers.
• 1:05:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: So to me, I'm actually very happy with this receiver core, and I think it's evidence last year when when burden got hurt, and I think it doesn't see what's hurt.
• 1:05:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was just Walker and G. J. Morrell there at the end of that packers game.
• 1:05:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: He delivered, so I'm fine with it.
• 1:05:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I want Walker to be out there running 30 routes or whatever, but I think if need be in a pinch, I'm very happy with having him, Thomas, Raymond, and maybe King Davis, who I suspect will be a healthy scratch as kind of my depth options behind a really strong duo in Odensé and Berlin.
• 1:05:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: 100% and we've got one last question here.
• 1:05:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just realized I didn't change the banner until a little bit late.
• 1:06:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I still had week one DFS cash line of fun because I'm goofy off, but we'll figure that out later as this thanks for grass.
• 1:06:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying that would be any better, but, you know, we are, we're podcasters, we're, we're, well, he's the ballmower.
• 1:06:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're not, we're not the tech people.
• 1:06:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 1:06:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that wants like, if everyone wants like an unpaid gig, tech learning for us, yeah, maybe you can go out to boys down with us.
• 1:06:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
• 1:06:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah, well a lot more mentions a boy's down that I was expecting going into this episode, but you know what all the power tool So this one was actually a DM that I got from Devon Grayson, I Devon Grayson three on Twitter as username is at as Devon G
• 1:06:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I said do you think that Bent Johnson waited a year longer in Detroit to see how Caleb Williams would play in the NFL?
• 1:07:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: And this was a really interesting one that when I woke up this morning and I saw he said this in last night.
• 1:07:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was intrigued by because I haven't really heard much of this discussion when that whole situation played out.
• 1:07:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, as you guys know, 2024 he was getting looks, the Washington commanders were interested in him as a head coach and candidate, but he removed himself from the running set, you know, it said it's something along the lines of like these, in the executives, like all these are basketball guys or whatever, it's like, you know, it's not the right fit that he wanted.
• 1:07:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then obviously 2025 came around and he went to Chicago and, you know, took that job.
• 1:07:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's possible, I definitely think it's a possibility to see what you know, but at the same time, I think that
• 1:07:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's so little you could take from Caleb Williams' rookie year because of how atrocious everything was around him.
• 1:08:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: You had that really good group of weapons, but the offensive line was a disaster.
• 1:08:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Shane Wall Street was a terrible offensive play call on that e-briflus.
• 1:08:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Was a terrible head coach.
• 1:08:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: The leadership capabilities in that locker room were a disaster.
• 1:08:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: The culture was a nightmare.
• 1:08:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Williams really wasn't dealt much in the way of a good hand in that regard.
• 1:08:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know necessarily if, you know, to see how Caleb Williams would play in the NFL, I don't know if that was a major.
• 1:08:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: benefactor, but I could see it more in the way of maybe he waited a year longer and Detroit knowing that Chicago would be of available once he ruthless got fired.
• 1:08:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
• 1:08:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't care.
• 1:08:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: So your thoughts on that because I think that maybe that's more the case of he was waiting for the bears to be open more so than, you know, more so than waiting to see how Caleb would play out, right?
• 1:09:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's part of the equation.
• 1:09:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think in general, it was just, I think he wanted to bet on himself.
• 1:09:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think he knew he would be good.
• 1:09:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so he wanted to put himself in the best possible scenario.
• 1:09:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: And looking back at some of these open jobs back in 2024 when he did not take a job.
• 1:09:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was the Falcons with Kirk and Phoenix.
• 1:09:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was Seattle with, I don't even know who was Seattle's quarterback back then.
• 1:09:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think maybe Donald was there not quite.
• 1:09:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: The commanders had the had rookie Daniels.
• 1:09:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Patriots had the rookie May Raiders.
• 1:09:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like the only good job relief that I am looking at here would have been the chargers.
• 1:09:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: But that went to Harball.
• 1:09:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you're ever looking elsewhere with Herbert.
• 1:09:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I think just in general, there was a lot of young quarterbacks, a lot of rookie guys.
• 1:09:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think, of course Williams was one of them.
• 1:09:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I think when looking at the open jobs there, I think Ben kind of talked to himself and said maybe there were some better options next year.
• 1:10:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I got a year to see some of these guys.
• 1:10:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I do think Caleb was part of it.
• 1:10:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I just think in general there wasn't probably like a great job available for him and he wanted to wait the year to see you.
• 1:10:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: He knew he would get a job.
• 1:10:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was like that was his one shot and he wanted to wait for kind of the perfect storm.
• 1:10:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I was saying very happy that that storm had landed in Chicago.
• 1:10:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm 100% with you.
• 1:10:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it all worked out.
• 1:10:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: All things considered definitely happy with, I mean, you can look at it where it's like, oh, you know, the bears should have fired Eve or flew after 2024.
• 1:10:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, or after, yeah, after 2023, because that was the second year and it's like, all right, you could tell this isn't working out.
• 1:10:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's kind of a lame duck coach going into 2024 anyway where he eventually get fired in its season.
• 1:10:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I'd like to think it all worked out.
• 1:10:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: All things considered bears got their guy.
• 1:10:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's been a long time since we've said that.
• 1:10:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: The bears have had like a genuine,
• 1:11:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: innovator at head coach.
• 1:11:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I can't think of the last time that's been said even maybe ever since we said it about about Matt Nagy and obviously we were wrong.
• 1:11:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:11:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel confident saying that this guy is innovator.
• 1:11:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be a really good coach for a long time.
• 1:11:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
• 1:11:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's a good thing to
• 1:11:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Chew on going into this week one matchup, I decided to break it all down with you next week and take a look at the week two matchup as well.
• 1:11:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: But bears football is here, man.
• 1:11:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's right around the corner.
• 1:11:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just so excited to have bears football back.
• 1:11:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's
• 1:11:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: such a special feeling like there's a buzz around just my everyday life now realizing that okay tomorrow I'm gonna sit my ass on the couch and not move for 12 hours and watch the Chicago Bears
• 1:11:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I pick a man.
• 1:12:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I miss as as I'm sure you are pretty to this as as Catholics, we get into mass at, you know, in the morning, 9 a.m. and the the priest is going on the homily and I don't all I can think about is the upcoming game.
• 1:12:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that is probably not a good thing, but that just goes to show how excited we are about this game.
• 1:12:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's always on our minds.
• 1:12:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: The bears are always on our minds.
• 1:12:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait for tomorrow.
• 1:12:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's always a nice added bonus if in the homily the priest said something about the bears and Oh, dude, that's the best thing the best thing about living in Chicago.
• 1:12:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, is you go to mass and every other person is the killed Williams jersey.
• 1:12:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, my, my priest actually adults in paths was on ESPN last year.
• 1:12:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Really.
• 1:12:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was, yeah, yeah, talking about like the whole purpose from Chicago thing like it's.
• 1:12:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: the intersection of like Catholicism and bears fandom in Chicago is just epic man.
• 1:12:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is epic.
• 1:12:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's very interesting.
• 1:12:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got to love it.
• 1:12:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: They always get a, you know, a light, a light priest chuckle from the crowd from a, it's like, oh, yeah, there's our first two.
• 1:13:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah, I see you.
• 1:13:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, it's always a good time.
• 1:13:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: So cities of buzz.
• 1:13:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's a buzz.
• 1:13:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're loving it.
• 1:13:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you guys for tuning in.
• 1:13:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: This was a little bit longer than the last one, uh, but, you know, it just happened sometime when this guy's talking ball.
• 1:13:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate you guys for tuning in.
• 1:13:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see you next Saturday.
• 1:13:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: For Jacob White, I've been Jacob in fond day.
• 1:13:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll continue to be Jacob in fond day after this end.
• 1:13:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Probably we'll see.
• 1:13:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I might have an existential crisis and we'll see how it all plays out.
• 1:13:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: But,
• 1:13:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you guys for tuning in to Bears for breakfast.
• 1:13:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see you in the next one, bear it out.